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We analyze route running, target share, and all the metrics that matter, giving you the insights you need to draft the best wide receivers. As you prep for your draft, let us give you the coverage you need. Follow and listen to Reception Perception on the free Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. - All right, we're moving on to some Pat's Prairie right now, Andy. We got a lot of just like nothing seismic or monumental going on in Pat's nation right now. Just a lot of little things that merit discussion here on the pod 'cause that's how we do. First things first. According to a story in the athletic recently, if the New England Patriots were to play a game that means something now, which they are not. - Thank God. - Jacobi Brissette would in fact be the starter. If when we get to camp, Drake May and Jacobi Brissette play, their play is commensurate to one another. If they're on an even playing field like Brissette's had a good camp, Drake May's had a good to very good camp. If they are neck and neck, Brissette will be the default starter with May looking to possibly get in sooner than most had expected. It is going to take, again, according to the athletic, but these are probably the same reasonably informed sources that you and I hang out with on media hill and that you often discuss football matters with in some of those post practice six rings pods. It's going to take Drake May clearly beating out Jacobi Brissette in order to win the starting job, week one for the Patriots. I still don't see that happening. So I think we all just sort of need to come round on the idea that it's going to be number 14 and not number 10 under center. Week one, September 8th, one in the PM out in the netdy against Jo, excuse me, fat, was it, was he modeling for Versace, Joe Burrow, was he in Paris? Justin Jefferson and Joe Burrow were modeling for Versace. You know that whole no diva quarterbacks? That has to push the boundaries of whether he's a diva quarterback or not. And I don't think he is. 'Cause you also have that famous story. Who told it, Elliot Wolf, about like, when they asked Joe Burrow what his favorite memory was, it was like playing middle linebacker in high school football and stopping somebody on the goal line or something. Like, I don't think Joe Burrow will diva quarterback, but he kind of does some things that are diva-ish. What do you like to say, diva adjacent? Diva adjacent, very well done, Hart. I will say this though, he looked pretty damn good. Like he's a, he got rid of the Anakin Skywalker here. He's back to the Joey Burrow cut and he looks all like, not gonna say. I think a lot of people saw that and went, would you? I bet he pushed his way past a lot of other former players or current NFLers onto some hall pass lists after that one. That being said, anyway, Versace will be your starter unless otherwise validated by a three- - I don't, to me this conversation has always been about October. Is he ready by October? Is he not ready? Is it late October or like, I've always just kind of penciled in Brissette for month one. And May had a nice, I keep saying it, up and down progression. There were some highs and some lows, but he's overall sort of moving his way along in progression. But I never felt like, oh, he's got to be the starter. And I think some of it will be circumstantial. We've talked about this. The offensive line, give them a chance to settle in, figure out who they are, what they are before you put the future of the franchise out there. And no disrespect to Jacobi Brissette, but you're expendable, the other guy's not. And so if we're gonna have runaway rushes and problems early in the year, you're gonna take the lumps and the hits that go along with it. So also, if you just recall, you know, my memory, I anointed quite, quite braggadociously in June that, - Yes. - That Mac Jones was gonna be the starter, not Cam Newton. And it played out that way. I do not feel that same mindset mentality, observation of what was going on. Like it just didn't feel like fast track Drake May and get him out there. Plus, we have Alex Van Pelt just flat out on the record. Jacobi Brissette's our starter. - Same with Elliott Wolf. - Yeah, so like, I think they came in with a plan and a timeline and I think it would be, I think it's, I won't say impossible, but again, I'd put it at like 10% chance for Drake May to alter that timeline. Now, I have a expedited timeline of, like I said, four games-ish. Now we gotta talk and figure out what's going on. Now we're talking Drake May time. - So you're taking the under on my six and a half games until Drake May starts. - Right now. - I'm taking the under. - I reserve the right to change that as camp goes on. Oh, we started hitting and now he looks like he, you know, it's moving a little fast for him. He's not quite ready or doesn't bounce back from certain things. But yes, right now, I'm looking toward four games into the season. I'm starting to think about it. It's time to put damn Drake May on the field and start the future. - Quick reminder for all of our listeners' ships. Patriots open the season. Like I said, in Cincinnati, September 8th, 1 p.m. against the Bengals. Then they have their home opener. They host the Seahawks. Then they have a Thursday night quick turnaround at the Jettrow Palatins. Then they have 10 days to prepare for the Whoopin' of the Century at 405, September 29th out in San Francisco. I wonder if the most interesting thing about that game won't be, you know, will Drake May finally see the field next week? It could be. Might that be the only game Brady gets? Like, well, like if that's a Fox game, we don't know who's broadcasting a lot of these games except for Netflix on Christmas, Thursday night games for Amazon and of course your Monday night football games for ESPN and ABC. A lot of the rest of the CBS Fox action has yet to be decided. But that could potentially be the Tom Brady calls a Patriots game game, which would be kind of fascinating. - Yeah, I think there's probably another one later at a statue game. I'm guessing the league and Fox and everybody's gonna do Robert a solid 'cause Robert said there's gonna be a 12-foot statue later this season. I would circle the Rams game in November. - I was gonna say November 17th. Ramajamas at your Patriots. And that could also, Andy, be when Drake, you could have a Drake May start there because that would be one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, that would be the 11th ball game of the season. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, so I would circle that as a potential Brady game too, circling back around to that 49ers game, coming off a Thursday night, you have an extended period to prepare for the 49ers. I think that week, you could see an uptick in Drake May's practice reps, not in preparation to start necessarily, but in preparation, when that game gets out of hand to see decent garbage time in the second half, and then the week after that, make his first start having two weeks of extended practice reps, moving that time period. Just, I'm throwing that time on a home game against the Lawfins and a potentially overcompensated to a tongue of Ayloa. Well, Hawk toa, wouldn't that be something? - I love how much that is taken off. - It is insane. - It's bananas. - No, it's awful. I mean, it's terrible. By God, that girl has a father. - I was literally gonna say like, you know, like you joke around like if your kid smashes a baseball and you just yell from the stands like, "Yeah, son, baseball had a family." That's ingest, we can't personify actual sports items or, you know, inanimate objects. This girl, it's just family and relatives. And her dad, there's no doubt her dad has seen that at this point and just gone, "Oh." - This has gone viral like few things that are questionable or blue or whatever world you wanna put that in. - Anything goes this viral period anymore. - But usually if it goes this viral, it's safer. Whereas this is close to a third rail and there are like legitimate social media accounts that have made references to this, use this in their social media plan for this week. And I feel bad. I mean, the poor girl is clearly liquored up when she does the interview. And everybody knows what we're talking about. If not, look it up. It's funny. - Yeah, you try to contain a lot of other people. - Like we all probably learned of it, Andy, by first seeing like, why is there a picture of A.J. Hawk next to To a Tonga Viola? I don't understand why this is on my time. Click on like, oh, oh. Sometimes, you know, I'm sure my wife would tell you considering that there hasn't been a dry toilet seat for her to sit on in our house for over 10 years, she probably would have loved at least a daughter since we have two boys. That said, there are days like this where I'm super glad I am the father of two boys 'cause I would not know how to handle this. That was an unexpected digression, but when you're doing six rings in football things with the very mature and highly developed Andy Hart and Nick Fitzy Stevens, this is how you get. - Wait a minute. - No, no, no, we're not taking any blame for this. The entire world has embraced this as a meme and started-- - I apologize for nothing. - Yeah, it just shows we're all immature and a little perverted at heart. - Correct. Now, Andy, we were discussing, I also wanted to mention, we kind of eked into it a little bit there, but did you happen to see, you may have seen a quick clip of Brady in the UFL championship, in the booth with, I forget it was Kurt Menefee and Charles Johnson, no, no, somebody else, I forget who it was. Anyway, long story short, he shows up in the booth couple of days after Brady night looking like a million dollars, sounds great, looks great, totally playing the part. Hell, I'm telling you still right now, depending on how things go Thursday night with our two uber geriatric presidential candidates, if Brady appeared in the video on his Instagram Friday and said, I am Tom Brady and I am a candidate for US president, we would have a new front runner by Sunday. Then Brady shows up on the herd a couple of days later, did you listen to any of his appearance on the herd? The clips are too long to fall the whole one in here right now, but I just wanna say, if we get a skosh, a tidbit, just a morsel, a nugget of how good he was on the herd in the booth this fall and going forward with Kevin Burkhardt, people are gonna be going beyond those 2017, like, whoa, this Tony Romo is unbelievable, it's like I've never heard a color analyst before an NFL booth. Brady just taking you inside his mind and how and why he did everything the way he did and the way quarterbacks and football players think play to play, series to series, game to game, was effing fantastic. - So, I am now more optimistic about Brady as a color analyst, based on what I'm saying. - There you go. - I have a question though, is this going to be generational? Is he going to resonate with late 30s, 40s, 50s, some things, hardos, old school, in my day, football kind of people? And is he going to get eye rolls, as I said earlier, maybe from some of the younger generations, as he's describing quarterback the way he played it, the way he thinks it should be played, and some kid is like, I'm gonna roll left, I'm gonna throw right, and I'm gonna put on a dime at 70 yards, you old coot. I'm not gonna keep my front shoulder tight and I'm not gonna have perfect mechanic. Like, I just, I wonder if this is, if there's gonna be a little generational interpretation or line here where like, some people love Brady, and then some people are like, yeah, shut up you goat, you had your run, we play different now. - But doesn't it help though, that he's only now what, a little over, he's a year and a half removed from the playing field, still has relationships with all these guys, played against Allen, played against Burrow, played against Mahal, like he, these were all actual contemporaries and adversaries of him as well. So for the next, I think for the next half dozen years, I think he's spot on, plus also the reverence they all show for him as well, I think that kind of keeps things in the proper perspective for Brady and the boots as well. - Yeah, no, I think the player part of it, I think they'll be respectful of him. I'm thinking more 13 year old fans, 18 year old fans, 22 year old fans, I think there's gonna be some fans that just look at him, we'll see. - And the relationships you mentioned are also some of my concerns, how critical is he going to be willing to be in some of those aspects that go into being the truly best color commentator? 'Cause if you're just, if everything's awesome and everything's great and everything is, the offense is awesome and the defense thinks that like, that gets old, that gets old quick and your biases and I hope he, I know he'll be self deprecating. I know there will be jokes about himself and not being able to do what a lot of these guys can do and the Allen's and the behind you. - I could never move like that, I could never make that throw. There's Kevin why I would never consider making that throw because I just didn't have that ability that Josh Allen or who knows. But I think he'll- - Jordan Love, he'll be good in, like he's just a smart guy who's seen a lot and I think he'll be really good about systems and schemes and coordinator changes and how valuable it was for him to play for 20 years in the same system and how much they're probably hanging out this quarterback, X, who now has his third coordinator in three or four years. No, I'm more optimistic about Brady, the color commentator now than I was previously, but I still wanna see it play out in exactly how he's, if he's gonna go all in and he can't backtrack. That's the other thing. Don't be like the frickin' roast and be all in and collect your $30 million and be the executive producer and then bitch about it later. No, if you say something, own it. - Yeah, that was a CYA move if ever before, which I think was a little unnecessary. It was Dinkish. It was Dinkish. - Did you see that UFC guy that obliterated him for it? He did it in a very inappropriate fashion. - Yeah, I was not a fan of that. Like, you have no quarrel. You have no business with Tom Brady in that capacity. How's now? - When he wasn't wrong, he just may have wanted to package it a little bit more. - He kinda overstepped his bounds a little bit. - Yeah. - I would say so for sure. - Sometimes we get on a roll with your regret later. - Yeah, that's the otherwise, why do we even pod, bro? Quick sight, a little digression here. And then we'll get to our last two little pets now gets before we hit the third and final leg, of course, which will be our Patriots off-seasonal position preview pop. Sometimes I call it OPP, sometimes I call it pop. You never know. Just watch me for changes and try to keep up people. I did work as the MC at a sports card and memorabilia show this past weekend in Marlboro for our friends at the Northern sports card expo. That was a fun little job. - Hey, were you also at Brady night? I forget. - Oh yeah, I don't know. Did you know I did two hours of the red carpet? - Yeah. - No script, too. Just flying by the seat in my pants, not bad. - Give me that microphone. - Yeah, for right. I have another one, so. So, and then pass it back to me and say, "I don't know what to do next." That was actually something everyone didn't hear. So they're like, "I don't know." Anyway, so it was a legend in his own mind, if I was gonna say for a lot of reasons. And in a special place called his mind. So anyway, working at the card show this weekend, I just thought this was interesting. I wanted to pass this along. So going up and speaking to a lot of the different card dealers, I think you'd find this interesting. I kept asking them, "What's the one card?" The football cards, 'cause football cards have come a long way. Baseball cards are kind of not the thing anymore. Now football cards are where the money is at. The price on some of them, good God. And there's too many to keep up with. One out of one million packs. Oh, this is the Chrome one. This is the autograph one. This one has a jersey piece stitched into it. How old are you? I'm just catching up 50, by the way. I'm catching up 100. You're catching up 100. All right, too many cards. And this one has Chrome. Why don't you go survey all the cards? And you'll see, and you'll be like, "Wow, they're realizing." But they're cool. Dude, it used to be Don Russ, Fleer, and Tops. That's it, you had to keep up with that. Now, the Panini people more, by the way, losing their rights, the Panini people are losing their exclusive card rights. Now, Fanatics is gonna get into the game. Well, based on the way Fanatics has screwed up everything else, I'm sure they'll screw up cards as well. He's gonna stay. We may lose them as a potential sponsor, but also, I'm not too thrilled about what they may be doing in the card biz. Anyway, I thought you'd find this interesting. The two most requested cards, and the interesting speculation card. I thought it might be Drake May is even regionally, 'cause I've bought some Drake May rookies for my kids as investment pieces. Jordan Love and CJ Stroud are the two most requested, because people are way in on the, people have already bought their Mahomes and their burrows. People are a little nervous about burrow and the injury, and if his card value will come down, everybody laughs about how much Mac Jones cards used to be worth versus what they're worth now. Worst investment ever. The player that one dealer told me, keep an eye on, and maybe even a fellow like yourself, who could be a little thrifty at times, but loves turning a dime into a dollar. Said the player to maybe consider speculating on right now, because his stock couldn't be lower, but you can still go out and buy some very nice cards, and this season they have nowhere to go but up. Bryce Young. - I can see that. - Dave Canalis, Xavier Laguette, Deontae Johnson. Bryce Young's apparently put on a ton of off-season muscle and weight this year, so he can try to keep up. Like maybe he'll turn into the Carolina Kyler Murray that a lot of people could see him being. Not a terrible little piece of advice that guy gave off right there. - No, you're definitely buying low, and you're projecting that the love for him was more right than the hate for him, basically. You're turning the clock back a year and saying, there was a reason he was the number one pick, there was a reason that the Texans also wanted him as their quarterback before they settled on. - Let's remember that bit of revisionist history, correct? 'Cause C.J. Stroud, he's the number one card, by the way. He is everyone in the business, all the fans are expecting him to just, and with the roster that they've built down there, I'm still on the record saying AFC Championship this year for the Texans, but I'm saying his cards are overvalued right now. - Wow, Steph Diggs, don't let him enter the chat. All right, last two little pieces. Speaking of over or undervalued, we have two little power ranking nuggets here for you to wrap up, Pat's Peri. Pro Football Talk has put out their pre-camp power rankings. Andy, did you see it? - I did. - What do you think, 31st overall for your New England Patriots? - Well, since I have said there's a possibility this team goes 0 and 17, I believe it's kind of accurate. I joked with you that there's not gonna be many games where you think the Patriots have the better team. Like they play the Panthers, what's that, the first preseason game, you think? So that may be the last time when you think they're definitely the better team or they have the better roster or the better, whatever. Now there's other winnable games, like don't get me wrong, the Cardinals are on the list, the Titans are on the list. Rams are on the list, Seahawks are on the list. - Yeah, but who knows what the Jags are gonna look like this year? - The Jags, those are all in play, or debatable or talking points depending on one team, 'cause that's the other thing. We know teams and players change dramatically from what we think of them in June, or even what we think of them in August and early September when we're drafting our fantasy teams and you're like, what an idiot. Why did I think that guy was gonna be so good? And you realize he stinks. In vice versa, some guy that's going late is gonna be a stud in the centerpiece of his team and blah, blah, blah. So all this is up for debate, but I don't know, like they either start Jacobi, Brissette or Drake May. So they have an unproven or proven and you don't like him quarterback, right? They don't have a left tackle. They don't have a receiver. Their defense is good, but as we've talked about, you're putting a lot of stock in a cornerback who's played 3.2 games in his career. And a slot corner who is once again kicking to the outside out of need and a slot corner who is coming back after the entire year being missing his entire sophomore season with the same injury Gonzo had that caused him to miss 13 and a half games. And a head coach and coaching staff that has never really done these jobs. And he had, nope. So there's, there's, if you wanna make an argument for why the Patriots are one of the worst teams in football, it's really easy to do, I guess is how it's-- - Well, it could also be because ESPN says they have the 27th best roster overall. - Oh, so that's better than 31. - It is. - It is. - And that's funny 'cause that comes off of our friend, Mina Kimes, saying the Patriots have a top five defense. - I don't-- - What is her deal? - She loves, she loves a lot of things, but two of them are-- - You love numbers. - Jalen Polkett, receiver and the Patriots defense. - Yeah, she loves numbers. That's what she loves. Oh, DVOA, XYZ, QRP, war, warp. They put it all together and they're pretty good. Like, yeah, I think she's nuts. And not just because I have questions about some of the talent, but also because a lot of those numbers remember our numbers and numbers get exposed against good competition. And when you face, you have the 49ers circled for a ass whooping, Christian McCaffrey, DVOA, whatever. - Christian McCaffrey, dark horse candidate for MVP, according to NFL.com. - Not much of a dark horse, if you ask me. Well, you know what he's due for? Miss six weeks with a hamstring injury, right? That's what he's due for. But that's a day right there. I feel pretty sure that's gonna hurt the Patriots' chances to be a top five defense, that day alone. And forget about the other ones. Like, the Bengals could embarrass you on opening day. If you're not ready, they could hang 40 on you on opening day, right? - Is it gonna be Ricky Pearsall and the Brandon Ayuk spot? Because now it looks like he's gonna grouse his way out. Pause, I think he wants to get traded to the commander so he can be wide receiver 1A with his boy, Jaden Daniels. That would also, if they make a power play in go get Ayuk, I still think they have enough receiving star power between Debo, Pearsall. Who's the kid that, oh, Joanne Jennings, who actually had a great postseason as well. He just signed for like another-- - Kittle and McCaffrey as key offense players. - That would all of a sudden give the commanders like the potential for like a sneaky fun offense. With Cliff Kingsbury? - Yeah, we'll see. I mean, all these things are theoretical. Remember we thought the Patriots might have a sneaky fun offense last year? Mac Jones is gonna bounce back. Bill O'Brien is a proven coach. How'd that work out? - I don't think I ever thought that. And funny thing is, they didn't. And I think a lot of it. - We kept saying they were gonna be competent and capable and we were using-- - Competent doesn't mean-- - Use the wrong C-words. - They were a bunch of-- - All right, and they-- - Newer Patsbury everybody, we've already gone long on segment two, which we thought was gonna be a brisk brief run around everything going on in the-- We could talk about Bryce Behringer's golf game for a while if we wanted to, and so many other things. But that's what we got going on. There's your nuggets. If there's anything else, any other tidbits, feel free to send them to us once again at Jumbo Heart, at Fitzy GFY, and at Six Rings Pod. - All-star, closer, Ken Lee Janssen, we have a question. - What's the best podcast of all time? This boy isn't boring, baby. - I'm Rob Radford, and every single day I'm sitting down with the biggest names to show you this great game is the greatest game. It's my podcast, it's my passion. 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