Its Episode 5: We focus on National Hunt breeding with Ian Kellit, co-breeder of current Champion Hurdle favourite Lossiemouth. Listen to the journey to breeding the popular grey mare, the family coming through as well as insight to Lossiemouth formative years in France before joining Willie Mullins. Champion Point To Point rider turned Point To Point handler Derek O'Connor takes us through his approach to starting horses earlier over obstacles which has included many homebred of leading NH owner, JP McManus.