The carnivore diet helped Angela reverse nearly every symptom of having late-stage neurological Lyme disease, coinfections, mold toxicity, and CIRS. She went from being bed-bound and fainting several times a day to being able to hike, walk, and do yoga again.
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Timestamps: 00:00 Trailer. 00:58 Introduction. 05:35 Health struggles. 08:04 Mold toxicity and Lyme disease diagnoses. 12:10 Trying carnivore diet. 13:49 Cooking steak is infinitely easier than before. 18:54 Carnivore diet improved digestion. 20:54 Carnivore diet and low inflammatory markers. 24:22 Criticism of meat diet. 28:06 Diet's impact on health and medical conditions. 31:58 Severe anxiety and depression. 33:56 Improved mental health through carnivore diet. 36:56 Nutrition, exercise, and quality sleep. 41:17 COVID flared up Lyme diease. 43:38 Medicine shifting towards more holistic, integrated approach. 47:36 Documenting steak restaurants for people with dietary concerns. 48:39 Where to find Angela.
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I was always using the sunshine and movement and exercise, but the steak was the missing link." All right, so I'm happy to bring to us today we've got Angela who's going to share a success story with us. Angela, you said you're down there in Los Angeles, California. How are we doing today? I'm in Los Angeles and I am doing really well, Dr. Baker. Thank you so much for allowing me to be a part of your channel today. Sure, sure. I guess let's just get into this. You've got some sort of success I understand and I'm not sure what it is and so I'm happy to hear about this. I guess maybe start wherever you want to start. Maybe there's some background information you'd like to provide. Maybe who you are, what you do, how you grew up or whatever you want to share. I actually grew up in rural Pennsylvania in the Northeast and my whole life I suffered from chronic, mysterious health issues that nobody could actually figure out. Fast forward to the time I was 28 and I was living in Los Angeles. I actually moved to LA 20 years ago in 2003, almost 21 years ago actually and even though I got slightly better while living in Los Angeles, I started, I actually worked in the fashion industry for 10 years and it was a very high stressful job and it was during that time that I actually got really ill and with more mysterious health issues. But this time my health went from being like, I've been able, I was always able to be functional even though I was chronically ill but this time I went to not being functional at all and in fact when I was 28, I got diagnosed with breast cancer and I'm 39 now so that was 11 years ago and that was my first real major health crisis and it was during that time that my doctors advised me to go plant based and even though I listened to my doctors, I wasn't really getting any better and in fact I started developing a lot of histamine issues and I did a lot of work like self-healing work that helped me get to the other side of that but I never actually felt well and my doctors just wanted to categorize my symptoms as post cancer syndrome so they just put it under this huge umbrella. I fast forward about five years later and I had to have an emergency surgery, my top rib I found I had thoracic outlet syndrome and my top rib was compressing, my brachial plexus nerve and my subclavian artery with my clavicle and so once I got that I had to get that rib removed to release the pressure and after that surgery everything that I worked so hard to get into a slight remission came back with vengeance and I just continued to get sicker and sicker and mind you at this time I also went from working in the fashion industry to the holistic health industry and I actually started my practice nearly ten years ago after cancer helping people reconnecting their mind, body and spirit so that they can achieve total wellness. The only thing that I didn't really put into my practice was I didn't really focus on diet because I was so still trying to figure out my own diet that I didn't want to be responsible telling people to do plant based or paleo or whole 30. I was not in that place to be able to feel responsible to guiding people in their health when I was still figuring out my own on a nutritional sense like I got the nervous system, the spirit, the body in terms of movement and exercise but I wasn't really focusing much on nutrition when however when I got severely ill after this surgery my histamine issues were so severe that I started reacting to every single plant that I was putting into my body. Every vegetable, every fruit, every starch, I was going into anaphylaxis due to having severe mast cell activation syndrome. The only thing I was not reacting to was meat and being this plant based or plant focus because I was never like a hundred percent vegan I just had but I definitely ate 90% vegetables, 10% meat and I remember going into anaphylaxis, shooting myself with epipens, going to the hospital, getting the ambulance called several times and of course once again because I had that surgery my neurologist and gastro doctors were saying oh you have autonomic dysfunction and this can happen I also was fainting over 15 times a day and my neurologist was like you're just going to have to manage this for the rest of your life and I just remember looking at him in the eye and saying if I have to manage this for the rest of my life that's going to be in about three months because I could truly feel in my heart I was dying. So I decided that actually didn't really have a decision I just I was so frantic because no doctors in Los Angeles were able to help me they just wanted to tell me that it was either in my head or that even though they saw through they did several tests showing that I had autonomic dysfunction for example I failed my tilt table test where they just hook you up to a table and you stand up for 10 minutes and you pass out and I passed out and so I took a leap of faith and I just on a whim I was like I need to go and get answers because I'm not getting them here and I just felt like if I didn't I was just going to die very soon so I packed up my stuff I was so grateful I found somebody to run out in my home in L.A. and I went home to where I grew up in Pennsylvania and within one day of being there I went into anaphylaxis because I had just made my mom and I some it was New Year's Day and I made some I made some sort of vegetable dish and I went into anaphylaxis once again because I didn't know what it was it was like I was reacting to everything as you do with having mast cell issues and they were not under control I had just happened to have a friend who used to be my neighbor call and check in while I was having that reaction and he called my mom and asked if I had ever been checked for Lyme disease and all I could think of was how could I be how could this be Lyme disease and I've been in Los Angeles baby I don't even the only time I really associated with Lyme diseases when I grew up there I didn't really know much about it I didn't know anything about co-infections I didn't know anything about mold toxicity however I was living in a water damaged home before I actually moved out of L.A. it wasn't until I finally got that taken care of that I ended up going and getting tested and then Matt came back positive for everything Lyme co-infections baby Zia Bartonella and that's how I also found out that I had severe mold toxicity and that I was also diagnosed with something called SIRS which is chronic inflammatory response syndrome so that's how I got led to the carnivore community not because I actually knew of that there was even a community this was also three and a half years ago so all this started the surgery was 2019 and I didn't get diagnosed with Lyme until February 2021 and that's actually how I started my journey and I like to think about was how can I just eat me I'm not going to thrive I'm not going to survive and that actually led me to some people that were sharing their stories that there's actually a whole carnivore community and I just remember being like what and then they led me to your book and I read your book and I was just baffled about everything that you wrote in this book about how the toxins and plants and what they do to our body and I just I was just shocked because here I was thinking I was doing myself good by eating all these plants and in fact I was just killing myself more and more each day okay but it's interesting because you say we got these mysterious symptoms and disorders and physicians can't figure that's pretty common they call like this idea path that we don't know why this is going on and it's just maybe I wasn't poisoning myself with yeah maybe we don't think about that because we're just we're not trained to look into that and think about that as physicians I can tell you for sure that certainly not in my profession my specialty we've never thought about that and and the vast majority of physicians are still that way for sure as you probably know yeah it's interesting I could it's because today we're 2024 and there's a lot more people talking about this carnivore diet I've been talking about it for almost a decade now close to that and back then it was you were really weird consider really you're still considered weird but it was way out there back then and now we're seeing only because this work for so many people that is common so when you so you made this decision to go carnivore at some point tell me about that what obviously you have this a bit of a leap of faith because you've got all this conditioning that hey I need to get five fiber I need got what about all the vegetables that I'm supposed to eat that are keeping me healthy how did you mentally cope with that and then tell me about yeah so as I was I really had to I'm really meditated on this because part of my identity was was cooking I loved to cook and I would always every meal was always like a full meal and loved to I remember sustaining over the stove and just always making some sort of dish from scratch and I just remember when I got so when I got really sick I got down to eighty nine pounds and the doctors I'll tell her you just have it too I'll tell her you just for a benefit too okay that's still pretty down yeah yeah I had lost all my muscle the lime had just destroyed my collagen and muscle tissue I and it didn't really matter what I ate I was at that point when I was eighty nine pounds I was stuffing myself with rice and chicken and vegetables and don't like gluten free vegan donuts whatever that's because my doctors were just like eat whatever and ever you can to get the calories and it didn't really matter what I was eating because I was so sick it just the bugs were just eating it and I felt like I was just being eaten alive every single day but the fatigue was so severe while I had this infection and it was really just a matter of my doctors telling me that they were gonna put me on TPN or a feeding tube and I refused and I said I'm gonna do this carnivore diet a try because the fact that I know what in these formulas and it's just a bunch of sugar and corn syrup and all of these different chemicals that our body should not even be consuming and I refused and at the same time I felt really grateful because I just remember having this moment in my meditation and just saying is this a diet that I could do is this can I sustain this and I remember just hearing this voice in my head saying you have no energy to even chop vegetables you have no energy to do really anything this diet is not only going to heal you nutritionally but energetically it's going to save your life because you don't have to worry about much and you put a steak putting a steak on a pan versus chopping up vegetables and having ten different cutting boards and all these different kitchen supplies that you've got to clean versus putting a steak in a pan and eating it on a plate I have two maybe three dishes tops yeah there's no doubt it's infinitely easier to cook steak I laugh because I spend about three to four minutes a day meal prep you know that includes cooking and I eat pretty fast so I don't spend a lot of time eating that's a very small part of my day was before when you're eating three maybe four or five times a day with the very snacks or you're spending a lot of time and effort planning cooking cleaning thinking about food and you do it most people spend or engage in in several hours a day in food it just is and not just doing it but often thinking about it and I don't really think much about food it's weird I talk about food all day about nutrition but I don't personally think about my own nutrition that much it's just I'm going to have that and it's done it's very easy anyway it really makes such a difference when you don't have to sit and worry about what you're going to eat what food you're going to put together the ingredients it's just my life feels so much less stressful now no stress is another thing I mean stress it's a disease exactly and so when you're anxious and stressed out about stuff it flares up things stresses as a huge impact on like heart disease stress is a big driver of that so you so you decide you're going to make the switch you read my book you probably look watch some podcast or who knows how you got there and make that decision how did it go initially was it was it was there how did your body respond to when you went carnivore for I just remember it was the first time I eat just a steak nothing else I remember I had this rather than flood of a histamine reaction I had this flood of euphoria I felt so good in my body I felt like my brain turned on it was as if every single cell in my body got activated and for the first time I just remember feeling so clear and so full of life and energies that I wanted to do it again the next day and I just kept going it was a bit of a transition because I still had it in my head that I needed to have the circle I only had two vegetables that I could actually process so it took me a while to get rid of those it was Brussels sprouts and cabbage with like the two that I just I was not it took me a little while to kick those but that was like a gradual thing it was the one thing just like oh I still can eat this or I can still eat the cabbage and but I didn't I knew that I didn't need it it wasn't like I needed it was just more of a creature it was just being a creature of habit and something that I felt like I could hold on to as long as I could and then as I continued to make that transition it was like one I would do one whole day then two whole days three whole days it just I gradually got up to there where I was just hundred percent carnivore and I just remember it was like slowly my life started coming back the biggest thing I noticed was I wasn't fainting anymore I wasn't going into anaphylaxis anymore I no longer had to use my epipen several times a week and yeah so the better I started to feel the more I wanted to stay on track because the other thing was my doctor my lime litter at doctor once we found out that it was lime in the co-infections he looked at me he's you are my sickest patient and because you are so reactive right now and your muscles are not under control I cannot treat you so you're gonna have to get a little healthier before I even give you an antibiotic or herb because if I do you could probably probably die so he was saying that and I was telling him that I just started this carnivore diet he was like one of the first doctors that actually knew about your diet and said I don't care what it is you just need to get healthier and that diet sounds great because with lime you can't really have sugar grains those are the two things that will really activate and keep the lime from going into remission is any type of sugar or grain so I focused on the diet and then I started focusing on detoxing but the diet was so beneficial in helping me detox and that was the other thing was I had in my head I needed fiber to detox and I suffered because of the lime I had severe gastroparesis which basically is my digestive system from having a damaged vagus nerve and having all these neurological issues my motility was very slow so I hear once again I'm over here thinking I needed more fiber to help my body go but I was only getting worse and I was always constantly chronically bloated and once I started to work started the carnivore diet I was like I was able to go to the bathroom every single day and my body actually was starting to be able to detox especially because this infection as spirochetes don't feed off of protein and fat so I initially went through a major detox a lot of diet off and that is why I started to feel so well because this diet was like my medicine eating steak rather than taking a supplement was the steak was my supplement the steak in the meat in the red meat was everything that my body needed I needed all the vitamins it needed all the minerals the things that I didn't even know that it had until I actually started researching and learning and that's how I started to get my health back and that's actually what got me to the to a healthy place where I could actually start treating the lime and getting the infection under control but my symptoms were under control before I actually started doing any treatments that's interesting so what where you are today as far as you've been doing this just about three years something like that so three and a half years into it are you actually I still work with my sirs doctor so I switched doctors about a year ago once I treated the lime I started working with a doctor that helps with chronic inflammatory response because I found out that the mold issue was were even worse than the line so I was working with her on a rigorous detox however she's a very big supporter of the lion diet and that's basically what I've been on for three and a half years that's the version of the carnivore diet that I've had the most success with is just ruminant meat salt and water and my inflammatory markers were so low and I remember when I first met her she was like I don't know what you're doing but you are not my sickest patient and she she like I said she's a big fan of the lion diet and she was like I know that because you're not my sickest patient because of your diet that you're on and I actually just met with her about a month ago and she's your inflammatory markers just continue to improve and that's my TGF beta one C4A and C3A they are all in normal range truly believe that this diet is what's been the 95% of my healing I contribute to this diet and to this way of eating now you said you've gotten out of eighty nine pounds have you been able to put in a lot of muscle when you're on like the sort of the plant based diet and really sick have you been able to restore some of that yeah so I'm actually at 105 pounds now and okay yes that's a 15 pounds probably mostly muscle yeah it is it is and the other thing was I was bed bound like I was always telling you I was feigning 15 times a day so when I got down to 89 pounds I was living in my living in a bed for the most part and now that I'm able to have a more of an active lifestyle so I walk I hike I do yoga I travel I'm getting my life back and getting that vitality back that I didn't that I lost and not only am I able to not only am I able to thrive but the beautiful thing is that I've been using this way of eating to pay it forward in my own holistic healing practice and it's that was the missing piece not only for myself but for a lot of my clients so the majority of my clients are on an animal based carnivore diet and they are thriving as well yeah there's something the reason because a lot of people it's just this fat diet will go up and the reality is it works very well for many not necessarily every single person but for so many people that I think it's going to continue to grow in popularity and so on and so forth do you I don't know what your sort of personal situation is but friends family people around you obviously they probably would have noticed the change I assume and unless you were completely isolated if so what has been the response to that and do they think this all meat diet is bad for you even what made you healthy interesting thing so family wise my family was so scared of losing me they all saw me on my deathbed really like I said I when I remember when I went home to Pennsylvania I really thought my heart I was going home to go home I just wanted to die in my bed every single day because I didn't know if I was gonna see the next it was a really scary time so when I said I was gonna start this diet I mean they were just happy to see me eat something that I wasn't going to react to so they were very supportive and my closest friends also were very supportive a lot of them were like I brought you meat what kind of meat can I bring you but it actually it was more so people that associated with me that maybe they weren't my closest friends but people that didn't really know me but knew of me that started seeing me do this meat diet that I would get a lot of flack I guess you'd better work judgment I would get people saying to me oh we don't you know we hope that your life expectancy doesn't decrease because of this diet or it's just you're gonna die from a heart attack from all that cholesterol you're eating things like that that I would hear rumors behind my back about people talking about me as I was living in Pennsylvania during my treatments and so small towns talk a lot and I would hear gossip through the grapevine as you do so it was something that I didn't really care though I didn't take the criticism and the judgments to heart because I knew in my heart of heart said this diet was helping me heal and I was really grateful because even though being in Los Angeles LA is a vegan capital but I'm so grateful that my friends here are so supportive of my diet and all of them including my family the one thing that nobody can take away from me is what I look like before versus what I look like now and the transformation is very obvious not just within my physique but within my energy levels my cognitive functions everything my my life is being restored and renewed every day and they're all eat the meat I don't care eat the meat eat the meat and we go out to there's a lot of really great Korean barbecue places out here that you can go to that just serve meat with no marinades just plain and then I just bring my red mint salt there's a lot of really wonderful steak restaurants here there's a lot of really amazing Brazilian places here so even though LA is a meat vegan capital we sure do have a lot of great places to eat when you say vegan capital that means instead of one percent of the population it's like three percent it's still mine it's still such a minority and as you may know there was a big very famous the electrical stage that was my favorite restaurant and I'm actually loves Molly she's an amazing person personally known her because I used to go when I was a vegan plant based I was in that restaurant once or twice a week I don't live very far from it yeah I know she's made a transition to her generatively agriculture and is is getting a lot of just hatred from the vegan community they're out there picketing and boycotting and screaming and I think I'm gonna interview Molly here and sometime I was hoping that you were because I was gonna say I should I'll go to her restaurant and personally talk to her about you yeah yeah and it's one of those things where you know it just as amazes me for people that claim they're ethically vegan because they're so compassionate how much hatred they can have at the same time towards human beings and it's a really such an ironic contrasting type of thing but yeah there's obviously I've been all over the place I'm in LA many times and I've never had trouble finding a steak or a steak restaurant I've been to the Fogerge chow and was it Beverly Hills and all the various it's still there the reality is a vast majority of people eat meat and still enjoy it and still eat the heck out of it which is I think good unfortunately we tend to couple that with all the garbage and that's what's really the problem there is all the garbage we eat that you know we sort of misinterpret and there's no dearth of poorly known studies where they conflate eating McDonald's to what I hear you might do where we just eat without the junk food which is so incredibly different than these other diets that they seem to conflate as far as obviously you're dealing with this Lyme disease all the co-infections the autonomic issues the I'm wondering because you know it sounds like it has brachial plexop at the I don't know if your arm went numb or you lost strength in the arm I'm just wondering if that could have been useful in that situation because a lot of people's other is a prominent cervical rehab and they would do a first river section typically it's how they help and treat that as an orthopedic surgeon I run into that issue occasionally I never that wasn't in my purview because I didn't operate in that particular location around the neck but that was always on the differential I always as well skeptical about it because I was like this these people have had this their whole life and now they're symptomatic and ribbed it and grow suddenly when they were 30 it was like spending over the whole time so something else has happened in addition to just that and we just say we can maybe it's just inflammation in that in that that that root of the nerve roots of collection or would call a blanket break in plexus you think about that oh my gosh that's a great question because that's something that I thought about so much once I got into this diet and then once I actually learned about Lyme disease and the inflammation that it caused because I found out when I got diagnosed with the Lyme I found out that I had it over 30 years based on my health history yes absolutely I think that is best with all the inflammation that I had in my body and like living in what I water damaged home and from the mold and the co-infections I completely think that if I would have been eating the right diet the proper human diet that I was focusing eating this way I would have reserved myself a lot of pain and suffering and I wish I never got that surgery I really do because that surgery just really unlocked everything and to then I learned that the breast cancer that I had at 28 was also a symptom of having Lyme as well I just think about just my lifestyle over the last you know like I said I'm 39 but when I got started really getting sick at 28 and I think about how I lived for 28 years there's it's no wonder why I was constantly in inflammatory flare-up and I drank alcohol I ate processed foods I ate sugar I was a standard American diet even if I wanted to be healthy and plant-based even though I did the plant-based diet the right way I wasn't eating a lot of processed foods when I started to become more vegan and plant-based but I was still eating foods that were causing inflammation yeah what how about mentally because you talk a lot about the physical thing but our mental health our cognition our mood any changes with that you know absolutely one of the things that I suffered severely from and this was something that was really like this is when I really knew that something was wrong and when I started thinking about dying and just feeling really close to death when I was so sick and I yeah I definitely suffered from anxiety and stress and depression while I was going through this and there were days where I just couldn't even get out of bed or that I thought I was not going to be able to survive this infection and I just remember the what was one of the first things that started to really shift for me was this girl that everybody knew as being so positive and I was always that positive girl the light that when you walk when I would walk into the room I would light up the room and now it's like I just wanted to be in the dark it was like a true dark night of the soul and to the only person that can get you out of that darkness is yourself you could have all the support around you but unless you know but nobody's you and even though I had that support I felt so alone and isolated and scared and full of fear and it was so scary because that's not who I am and as I was cleaning up my diet and letting go of these toxins and these foods and continuing on my carnivore journey I just remember the there was something that I think it was like watching TV and I just remember I cracked up laughing and I could not remember the last time I actually found anything funny nothing was I would somebody would say something and I would just nothing I was so apathetic I had no emotions it just was just a shell of myself and I noticed once I started to get my mental health back as I was eating more and more red meat because chicken didn't I was eating chicken for a brief moment but that didn't really do anything for me and I also gave up pork because it was the same thing I wasn't really having very a lot of benefits from eating either of those things so that's why I just stuck with beef lamb goat in venison and that's when I really started to notice the shift and making sure that I was getting enough fat I wasn't really able to eat a lot of fat in the beginning but as I my body adapted I was able to get up to a decent amount of fat and that was really like the big game changer was getting more fat eating more and then getting all of these nutrients that just really helped with my brain and cognitive function especially when I started eating more lamb because lamb is high in DHA which is also really great for your brain when you were going through your health struggles and 60s maybe clamp-based diet or something else was there a point where you try to dial in the other factors sleep exercise sunlight exposure because a lot of those things can be important in addition to diet had you done that prior to switching diet my big so as a something that I learned back when I had cancer is it's not just the food that we eat that we get energy from it's our it's everything around us it's our environment movement is medicine sunlight is medicine grounding on the earth is medicine meditation is medicine so these are all things that I was already doing before I had gotten so sick and it was actually something that I incorporated in my holistic how hard just this was something that only did I do myself but this was something that I always had my clients do as well and even one of my clients got me this shirt that says just a girl who loves sunshine and steak because that was the missing link was I got the sunshine I was always using the sunshine and movement and exercise but the steak was the missing link so I got this as just a girl who loves sunshine and steak because that is to me was to bet my my two biggest healers are circadian rhythms sunlight sunrise sunset they're non-negotiable and of course read me but exercise walking I even when I was bed bound so I got one of these little bikes they're like they're called kubies and I'd sit on my bed or a chair and just pedal my feet and then I would use like two pound weights to keep my body gone so even when I was bed bound I still found ways of moving my body yeah I think always in was anybody knows I'm a huge proponent of exercise and getting good sleep and getting the lining ourselves with circadian biology I think those things are all things are very important but I think if you're still continuing to poison yourself with what you put in your mouth every day either eating a bunch of processed garbage or something else that your body doesn't tell right well I just don't think those things are gonna be affected I think you've got it you've got it you've got a dial in your nutrition and if you don't it's like not sleeping can you imagine I don't care what you're doing if you just did not sleep I don't care you could exercise you eat well you would be sick you would really struggle with that I think nutrition is similar to that in the fact that we have to have the right nutrition for anything else to be effective it's I think those are foundation and no one goes without sleep not long term no one healthy goes without sleep I could tell you that so like I said it's foundational and so good for you for doing that so tell me so you went from being bed bound sticking here in a die within a few months or even you know thinking that maybe being dead would be a better position so I know of her people say that they would sometimes rather be dead to now obviously sounds like you're thriving tells like you got no desire or concern about dying in the near future it sounds like you've got your whole life ahead of you what are you what's on the horizon free what do you look to do or what are you what are you excited so a couple things I am actually in starting in September I am traveling solo to the UK and I'm just I've actually just booked a one way one way ticket so I'm going to be starting in Scotland and I'm going to be traveling around Scotland England Amsterdam Ireland maybe Paris so that's something that I've always wished I could do but because of having all of my chronic health issues I was always afraid to do it and so this is such a big journey for me to be able to do this and also the other major thing is I have had my holistic health practice for nearly ten years and after going through this journey while going through this journey even though I was really sick I still worked and I still did work with my clients but over the last six months my practice has went through a major expansion so I've been working through telehealth with my clients so I work with people globally all over the world so if I can live in Los Angeles and like I've been living by coastually for the last couple of years and now I'm back in Los Angeles so this is a big deal I just moved back on Friday officially back here and so it's like I'm home officially like home other than going and traveling in the fall but I'm home for the summer and so I'm just grateful that I can work with people I can help people that's my mission my mission is to turn my pain into purpose and help people go from being chronically ill to mindfully well and I just want to keep expanding and growing that part of my practice and I've been really focusing on the autoimmune Lyme co-infections and chronic illness community now that's for my practice mainly is is focusing on because if I had to go through this I don't want anybody else to have to go through this and suffer as long as I have so that's I'm turning my mission into movement right now when you you said you had obviously Lyme Borrelia burgdorferi and that BCO system some of these other I guess you detected them in your sharements or someplace are those now normalize or where you got with that and last time yes so my body's immune system was not working at all and based on labs my immune system has turned back on and I am in remission so no detectable low detectable levels of these no so it's interesting because I actually got when we went to that retreat meat stock and I ended up getting COVID so that of course COVID made me flare up but so that didn't take my Lyme and not the co-infections but the Lyme did flare up however what even though I always get a blood test for it my my doctor said to me she even though it did flare up and it did come out of remission she's your body's not recognizing it because your immune system is turned on so with that said was when your immune system is turned on it means that my body is naturally fighting it because with chronic Lyme it can come out it can come out and so we measure remission is based on how you feel versus what a blood test is and given that I would have even wouldn't have even noticed that I was out of remission but we all knew that COVID can potentially do that doesn't doesn't matter it can activate it but she's not wasn't really concerned about it because I feel great we think about our immune system where I'm literally inhaling millions and billions of viral and bacterial virus right now it's my body is dealing with that at all times and our immune system wonderfully thankfully deals with it continuously so anytime we are compromised through concomitant illness or whatever injury or stress or whatever lack of sleep then you lose us some efficacy of the immune system and yeah it makes sense that maybe a lot of people chronically are exposed to Lyme but because their immune system works they just deal with it they don't have it and again you mention symptoms and I think there's a lot of things that people because we're in and we live in an age where you can get a blood test for anything these days and not just a blood test and everything test we can test everything ad nauseam ad infinitum and it's what do you actually care about at the end of the day if you would have never taken if you felt good your whole life and never taken a test and you had some Lyme titers and you never noticed it and you were just totally happy and healthy you wouldn't care honestly it's what drives you and it's just symptoms and so I tell people really to focus on your symptoms more than individual tests because we have you literally I guarantee I can test anybody on the planet and I can find a test where they can find something that's going to be abnormal I don't care if it's an MRI and if I am red my body I would find all kinds of jacks up things it's just part of the life in many ways and so your doctors well I guess you it wasn't that your doctors were receptive a carnivore you found doctors that you found the doctors that were already receptive to that I think is that what it sounds like and fortunately more and more of them are starting to realize that this is a significant part of the puzzle in many cases and we often see them in the alternative space the functional space integrated space the sort of the non-traditional physicians you go to a kind of permanente in California and they're all like indoctrinated and this is the way you practice medicine if you don't practice medicine this way you don't get as many brownie points and maybe you will kind of mark you down or something like that and it's it's interesting to see how medicine is going and as you come up with this company Rivera what we certainly put front and center the nutrition side of things and the lifestyle side of things and then still if we need the other stuff we'll utilize it when it's necessary but I think so many physicians just have no they're just they're not trained they don't have they don't have the resource or that that's a problem is they're on the resources it's manyfold they're not trained to do it they're not incentivized to do it they don't have the resources to do it so we had to build that from scratch to have because it takes a lot I mean your your condition your treatment was not easily treatable in a 15-minute visit once every three months just it just it just doesn't lend itself to that it needs the work you did just yourself probably unguided in many ways just doing your own research which a lot of people criticize I did my own research I ended up in a graveyard but realistically some of this stuff takes a lot of effort and time and kudos for you for doing that because like I said had you just stayed in the allopathic Kaiser Permanente system you probably would have been dead perhaps or on your way or still bedbound or and that's what happens you get bedbound and all of a sudden you get these sickle to cubidile ulcers and you got infections and you dive sepsis and so I'm glad you're not there that's good to hear it's good to see because you've got a lot to offer the world and I can tell you're just looking at you look healthy and happy and it's got a it's got to feel good yeah no thank you so much it's very true it's the western medicine failed me over and over again and I think that there's a place for western medicine in terms of trauma or if I break my leg great if I like what I was having those anaphylactic reactions that was great they were able to get me back but there needs but they're not great for helping you not to have those they're great at putting band-aids on things but they're not great at helping you manage your health and your lifestyle and helping you achieve wellness and manage a chronic illness without giving you 15 different prescriptions everything's a pill there's a pill for everything these days and I was I just refuse to live like that yeah good for you good for you find out as we're about out of time here tell us do you have a social media or a website or anything like that which where do people go to find yeah I do actually I have two Instagram accounts one is my personal journey it's and lero l-a-n-g l-e-r-r-o 28 or you can also follow me on meet based medium it's my second instagram account that's more focused where I'm focusing more on my carnivore journey and more it's all stocks look more about my practice and I actually just started a new instagram account for all of the restaurants that I eat at and for my travels and it's called and meets world and meet like me at s world so I'm going to be utilizing that as part of my traveling journey and where I will be documenting a lot of great steak restaurants because I know that when we are suffering from any type of autoimmune issues or whether we're just trying to avoid seed oils it's going to be a page where you can see different restaurants around the country that I've personally experienced that I've had these conversations about cooking preparations what they make their steaks in cross-contamination and then of course if it was a quality meal or not very good awesome agile continued success I hope you get lots of success with what you do and thanks for sharing your story hopefully I'm sure we'll inspire many more people because it does does it's inspiring to see so thanks for doing what you do and I'm sure we'll I'm sure we'll meet again at some point absolutely thank you so much doctor baker I really appreciate you today and thank you so much for all you're doing in this community and for all the support you and inspiration you give us on a daily basis you've really helped save so many of our lives and we wouldn't be here today without you so thank you you so much. so you you you [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO]