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Ep. 850. The Correct BROCHA on Instant Soups and Vegetable Soups.

The Correct BROCHA on Instant Soups and Vegetable Soups.

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17 Jul 2024
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The Correct BROCHA on Instant Soups and Vegetable Soups.
Welcome everybody. It's your number 850, getting back to our Helchas Brakhos. Okay, so interesting question. What about the instant soups? We're talking a little bit about soups, which is not so much parts of it. It's an hour, a sim and rash less, which we're trying to work on. Some parts are in other areas, but I'm just trying to go through Rabadna in the Safa. He brings down in Halakhos or Brakhos, various different types of soups out to work with them. So he says, "Interesting. What about an instant soup?" The instant soups that everybody knows. Everybody buys those instant soups. One has to be careful on Shabbos. I just want to mention Agarwalha on the side. Shabbos, we're not supposed to make that on Shabbos, but let's say during the week. During the week. So what about instant soups? What's the correct brakhot to make on the instant soup? So he brings down those Rabadna on page 435. Vegetable soups made from dehydrated soup mixes, which is these instant soups. And interesting, he says on the bottom. I'm not going to get into the whole thing. Why? But he says vegetables and herbs, such as parsley, dill, and the like, which ordinarily require inspection. One has to inspect these types of things before they eat it. For insects and so on, prior to use, require no prior inspection if dehydrated. He explains the whole reason on the bottom, but be it as an interesting thing to keep in mind if it's in a dehydrated state. So he says like this, vegetables soups made from the dehydrated, I'm sorry, vegetables soups made from dehydrated soup mixes, right? Packets of dried vegetables, for example, it's not the regular vegetables, so is the hydrated vegetables in these instant soups. So packets of dried vegetables, the herbs of flavoring, which are added to the water to make instant quote unquote instant soup that we know, right? Are usually eaten for the liquid soup. The people buy it and they eat it for the liquid. The flavoring and the vegetables, and the vegetable solids are added merely to enhance the liquid. So those little things that are dehydrated, the vegetables, whatever, are only there to enhance the liquid itself. But the ikr, the main thing, is the liquid. This is how he brings it down. Since the liquid is the ikr, the appropriate bracha is a shahakul, right? In other words, it's different than a regular vegetable soup. A person cooks a regular vegetable soup by a person likes the vegetables, meaning the vegetables soup for the vegetables. These instant soups are a little bit of a different category, if you want to call it. In other words, not such a different category, but the reason why the things are in there is for a different category. So it's because it's a liquid. Since the liquid is the ikr, the appropriate bracha is a shahakul. And the shahakul will exempt the other enhancing ingredients. In other words, all the other dried up stuff in it is only there to enhance the soup itself, in general. That's sort of like the concept of these types of soups. Okay, so then he goes further to say that, now you have some different types. He says some types of microwave-ready instant soups, the hydrating ingredients package in a ready serve cup, contain an ample amount of vegetable sake. There are, I guess, there are different types. I'm not familiar with myself, but if it's a takka type that comes with quite a bit of vegetables, contain an ample amount of vegetables, the bracha for the soup would be a pre- or a dhamma, like a regular vegetable soup, right? So, Lahore, I mean what he's saying, a person has to really assess the situation. If it's to takka, full of regular vegetables, so then, you know, we're looking at a dhamma. But if it's just a little bit here and there, just to enhance the soup itself, then we would rely on a shahakul. Because the main thing is the soup itself. Now, the question comes up, which is even stronger. A lot of these soups, I know I've seen, are the types of microwave-ready soup in a cup, instant soups. Again, we're dealing with the instant soups, contain ample amounts of noodles. It comes with quite a bit of noodles, sometimes in a separate bag, right? You have to put it in, and sometimes it's quite a bit. So then, the bracha for such soups would be a bure, medium as owners. You have noodles in your soup, and we spoke about that before, and you're making it, you're cooking it all together, right? So you have regular misonas, and there you have the noodles in there. So then it becomes a regular misonas. Because of the fact that misonas, as we know, takes precedence in these various different types of soups, or the foods in general, when it's there for a taste or sustenance. Okay, just one more quick thing. In reference, a vegetable soup. So regular vegetable soups, like we said before. If one eats a regular vegetable soup, the bracha brings on those Rabardan on page 434, the bracha for ve -- and again, he's quoting from the shulchanarach, and so on, the bracha for ve -- regular vegetable soup made from vegetables or beans, and so on, is bracha pre-hoad-dama. Since bracha pre-hoad-dama had my vegetables and I ate my soup, bracha pre-hoad-dama now. But the interesting note he brings down over there, that if flour was added -- let's say a person put in flour, it was added to thicken the soup, right? The bracha nevertheless remains a bracha pre-hoad-dama. So it's like this, then it continues on. If the vegetable soup contains barley and noodles like we spoke about last time, then the bracha is going to be barreminum's earnest, right? Because that takes precedence, that's there for sustenance and taste. But if it's a question of the flour that was put in there, and again, the flour -- when flour is put into a food, and it's there for taste and sustenance, then that's going to be again my zoneus. But over here, it's added -- it's added to thicken the soup. So he brings that on the bottom just to read what he says. Normally, if one of the ingredients in the mixture is muzonos, right, then the bracha will be barreminum's earnest. That's -- that's how we do it. One of the ingredients is barreminum's earnest, then it stays barreminum's earnest, as long as it's there for taste and sustenance. And in general, we said that muzonos is going to cover the whole soup. But -- oh, so in this case, however, in our case, however, since the flour is added merely to thicken the soup, it's there for the mechanics of the soup, right? We spoke about this many times. It's there for the mechanics of the soup. Therefore, it's not considered the ikr. That's what he brings down. Okay, so we'll stop over here, but that's basically the concept with the various different soups that we went through. Thank you for listening us. Lachabracha Koldur.