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Ep. 847. Barley Soup, Soup with Noodles – the Correct Brocha.
Barley Soup, Soup with Noodles – the Correct Brocha.
Welcome everybody to Year Number 847, getting back to our hilkes brochos. Okay, so we are going through our summit, of course, Regres. Various different questions to announce. Now, the question, I want to talk, start to talk a little bit about soups. We spoke about soups a little bit in the past a long, long time ago, but I want to talk about some soups anyways, reference to when mezonos is involved. So you have, for example, you have a barley soup. You have a soup that has barley in it. You have, and you could have vegetables also. You could have a soup that has noodles in it. Luxion, right? You have noodles in it, which is mezonos, barley, which is mezonos, right? Regular cooked barley, mezonos. So the question is, what type of soup do I have? What brocha do I make on the soup? Now, the other question is also, how much, let's say, in case of barley. You have barley, let's say you don't have too much barley. I have a little drop of barley. I have mostly soup, but a little drop of barley is over there in the soup. What do I do in such a case? Well, it's like this. It's pretty simple. When an item is made together in general, as opposed to, as opposed to, if somebody, if you put it, made it separate. In other words, somebody made the soup, and then they put in the noodles. If somebody made the soup, then they put in the barley. We'll try and get to that a little bit separately. But let's say regular barley soup. The person made it with barley, and that's how they made it together. And it's a regular amount of barley in the soup. It's a barley soup, even though you might have vegetables in there, whatever the case would be. But so in general, the bracha on that is going to be a mizanos. Right? We've spoken about in the past many times and now it's something that's cooked together. And there's mizanos over there, and this is the, it's a bowl of soup. So, and when you have mizanos in there, and the mizanos is there for the taste, or the sustenance, so that as opposed to, you know, for mechanics of the food, which we spoke about, keep it together, whatever. When it's there for taste, the sustenance, then the bracha is mizanos, and everything is bottle. In general, everything is bottled to the mizanos, which is, which would be the barley, or let's say the case in time where you have noodles in there, or so on. Okay, so the same thing would apply, even if somebody has a lot of soup. In other words, I have a regular amount of barley and so on, but I have a lot of soup, you know. So, I said the same thing would apply. Now, the only question comes up, where could be a little bit whereby one might have to make a shahakal also on something else we'll talk about? That is, if there's only a few pieces, a very small amount of barley floating around, and it's basically soup. So, that becomes a little bit more problematic. Okay, so just to read from the Rabadneur and Saif, on page 436, and he's actually quoting the misha bura in our sim and raishchas, sif-katan-hough-gimmel. So, he says like this, if the soup, let's say I have a barley soup, but the soup consists only of liquid, mostly liquid. It's basically liquid containing only a small amount of barley grains, right? So, then the following procedures should be followed. To read from the misha bura, again, that's what we're looking at over here. The soup is mostly soup, and the person is making it for the soup, but they threw in there a few barley grains, which was cooked together. So, the misha bura tells us, in such a case, that the mice at the bottom line is we can say, even though it's a few amount of barley pieces in there, and it's very mostly soup, so you still can't say that the barley is bottled. The barley becomes part of the soup whereby you'll only make a shakl, because of the fact that it's mizonos. You have to make a mizonos. So, the misha bura tells us very simple. But the problem is, as a misha bura, in this case, again, only in this case like we mentioned, where it consists mostly of liquid containing only a small amount of barley, a few barley grains floating around. So, then he says, mccomokam ifshishigamhamayim, but also we'll say, maybe the soup. It's very hard to say. You know, you have only a few barley grains floating around there. It's not a regular barley soup. It's mamish. It's the soup. But you have a few barley things floating around. They said, "A barley, you have to make a mizonos." That's not a question. But what do we do with the soup? It's very hard to say that the whole soup is bottled to those few little pieces of barley that's floating around. So, kang jiikran nasa rakliche siyya of lehla kehla tells us the misha bura. It's a case in time whereby the soup is basically for drinking. You know, besides those few barley pieces, basically for drinking, not for eating, the saklabarakam alhamayim shahakal one would have to make a shahakal. So, you can say, first make a bracha shahakal and then make a bracha on the barley. But he brings down iftas, kaya them kosip shi yayse taiq. It's better. Even that could be problematic because the misha, the kal is, if you have mizonos, I've made my soup. I cooked my soup and this mizonos, they're lamisas, mizonos. The only question is over here because there's a lot of soup, only a very small amount of barley. So, kaya them, but he brings them kaya them kosip shi yayse taiq. Lehvar a shahakal, one should make a shahakal al dovar akhir on something else. The ata is a righte, and one should have a mind, the soup. Rehol zadafka bakamacious minidagan, right? So, that this is the way we'll talk about if it's a vegetable soup, it goes a little bit different. But be it as it may, so when it comes to a mizonos, the same thing would apply by noodles, they'll say the same thing. So, if it's a lot of soup and only a few noodles here and there, so, of course, you have to make sure to make mizonos on the noodles, on the noodles. But, mishabra says, I mean, you could make sort of on the soup shahakal separately, but on the water, but one should take, one should not do that. He brings again from kaya them, one should better to take something else and make a dovar akhir, something else. Rehol zadafka, it's a righte, to make a shahakal on something else. Have a mind, the soup, right? Not the whole soup with the mizonos, have a mind, the soup. And they should take out. First, before they do that, they should take out either the barley or the noodles and make mizonos separately on that, not having a mind, the soup. Just to make a separate mizonos on the barley or on the noodles. Now, the only problem is if the person doesn't have anything else, and they only have a few pieces of noodles floating around and a few pieces of barley, and it's mostly soup and it's basically a drinkable soup. So then he says, the Mishabir says, and the person will be making the shahakal on the water itself, on the soup itself. It's also a verkamal, a mind, shahakal. But when you first make the brocha on the water, okay, on the soup itself, akhakah, naftu, it's take out without the barley and without the noodles. Just plain the plain water. You make shahakal on that, and then you make a mizonos separately on the barley or on the noodles. Just pull out one noodle lord or whatever. You pull out the barley or whatever the case is, make mizonos on that. That's in the case in time if somebody doesn't have something else. But if you have something else, make a shahakal on something else, have a mind, the soup, and the barley, you could take out one, make mizonos, and you take out noodle, make mizonos. And that should be done first, and then the shahakal on something else. But if you don't have anything else, that's why he says, if you don't have anything else, then you would make first, valkanyverk takhila alhammayim. First you make on the soup, and if to the barley, because it affected the problem, is it could be, if you made in the barley, possibly we're going to say that might even cover the soup. But since it's so little barley and so much soup, and it's really, the whole soup is over here, it's a different case, so that's why we're saying to do this procedure. But just to keep in mind, if it's a regular soup that's cooked regular barley, noodles, and so on, in general, the only bracha would be mizonos. I eat it, it's in my soup, with my noodles, it's my soup, with my barley, and the only bracha would be, I eat it all together. Of course, it's cooked together, and so on, so that the bracha would be mizonos only, and a alhammayim, of course, if somebody ate, now as far as the after bracha, one would make alhammayim, as long as they ate kazayas of the barley under, in the baktechilis pras, under form in a period, or kazayas of the noodles, baktechilis pras, under form in a period, only then would they make a alhammayim, right, if there was no point in eating of the soup, whereby you took a yeade kazayas of the noodles, or under a form in a period, or you didn't eat the barley, let's say in the case of barley soup, you didn't eat the kazayas of the barley, under a form in a period, but you ate, you kept on eating it together, so then of course, one would make a, in general, one would make a bracha in that case. Again, of course, assuming that a person, you know, drank the, drank enough soup, in the right amount of time, which is pretty, not a major amount, we've spoken about the pesser Rivias, even baktechilis pras, that would be good enough. Thank you for listening us Locke on Bracha, cold too.