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Ep. 836. Final Important Facts To Know About Cereals And Their "After Brochoh"
Final Important Facts To Know About Cereals And Their "After Brochoh"
Welcome everybody, shoot 'em at 836, getting back toir with Hilchus Barrochos. Okay, I want to try and finish off the serial issues that we were talking about, from the beautiful report I was written by the star K, from Rabbi David Heber. Again, we want to put up the link everybody could see, and on that link you'll actually have a list of the serials, most, I don't know if the most updated, but I think it's from about two years, it's about two years old, something along those lines. But again, somebody will get a picture of what it's all about, and we just, again, we went through the various different ins and outs of that report, and a few different shear to explain, because some of the items over there are hard to understand, not the actual list itself of serials, but in the various ins and outs. But well, Bess was a chambelina that I hope to put up the link, and everybody could take a look for themselves, and find out, like we said, the correct brachas and the serials, just one more quick thing, which gets a little bit more complicated than the first brachatil now. We've been talking about the first bracha bracha we showed you, which is a little bit easier in conjunction with the various different columns that we spoke about, which is pretty much straight up, right? If it's flour, and then wheat flour, or spelt flour, or old flour, then we know it's in bizanas, right, in general, first brachas, all this you could taste it in general, or if it's whole grains, then we said, and mamish whole grains, then we said it's a question of, we spoke about some of those serials, then it said, then it would be a hua dama, very simply. If it's ground up, if it's ground up rice flour, rice flour would be mizanas. If it's ground up corn flour, or almond flour, these type of things made into a cereal, then the bracha would be a shehakul. So that was just the basics of the bracha bracha we showed you, which is a little bit easier. The bracha bracha ocarina, which we did give a sheer on, is much more difficult, just a couple of pointers I want to point out, in ending off our shear of cereal, bleenator, and that is, we spoke about last time they bring down the report 1.27 ounces, or 38 milligrams, right? Would be the kazayas amount, in other words, you have to eat from this cereal itself. Maybe the 1.27 ounces, or 38 milligrams of the cereal itself, but again, so if you eat that from a mizano cereal, whereby it's from one of the five grains, not flour, wheat flour, again, not wheat flour, I'm sorry, rice flour, rice flour is mizanas, and barina fashos, so that doesn't, that's not what we're talking about, we're talking about the five grains of the regular wheat flour, or five grains of wheat flour, spelt flour, oat flour, rye, or barley, so when it's ground up, and if that's what the cereals made of, so then we said those are the amounts we said you have to eat, the person has to eat under a four minute period, they bring down over there, preferably two minutes, but as long as it's under a four minute period, then one will make a alhamicia. Now, in most other cases, one makes a barina fashos, it points out one thing over there, which again, I don't want to bring up all the things we've spoken about in the past, and one of the main things is the makhalikis between the misha brahmura masha, which is, do we include the other ingredients, or don't we include the other ingredients, but I don't want to get into that right now, we spoke about that quite a few times, but one thing he does say, some of the cereals we spoke about, if you have a cereal, let's say, again, which is saying that general concept that he brings down over there, we're not giving specifics, somebody has a cereal, there are pieces in the cereal that might be made out of the flower from the five grains, wheat flour, oat flour, whatever, and there are pieces in the cereal that might be made out of some of the flour grains, possibly, right, or maybe out of rice grains, so there's a mixture, sometimes they have a multi, multi-type of a cereal, we actually brought down one cereal that we said the last time, if I remember correctly, of hands, it was the Kellogg's Crispix, right, if that's why he brings down in the report, that's mamish half rice, half corn, mamish eats pieces, half rice, half corn, so you have mazonos, and then you have a shahakal, but still the after-brocho will be verna fushers, but what he stresses over there is this rubber heber in the report, that if you have, let's say, some pieces are, in this particular cereal, made out of regular flour, right, like one of the five grains, spelt, oat, whatever, that will be al-hamincha, but then you have some pieces in the same cereal that might be made out of rice flour, might be made out of corn flour, so that could be a mixture, there's some cereals like that, also, in which case, that is more problematic, so it depends, if you ate a kazayas, which is like we spoke about, again, these are roughly, it could be a little different, others hold different, but this is how they bring it down, 1.27 ounces or 38 milligrams under a four-minute period of the spelt flour, or of the oat flour, in other words, from the five grains, those pieces, if you ate that amount under a four-minute period, then you would make al-hamincha, but he says over there what he explains, you can't put it, which is the halacha, like we spoke about, you can't put it together, you can't put it together, in other words, just like a person, we spoke about in the past, a person, how do we understand lupeta, I eat an apple pie, I eat apple pie, so we know we make them as own as fine apple pie, very nice, but if I only ate half of a kazayas of the outside, which is the regular flour part of the apple pie, right, the outside is made out of wheat flour, so I only ate half a kazayas on the four minutes, but I ate from the apple filling also, so I ate half a kazayas of the outside crust of the apple pie, and half a kazayas of the apples inside of the apple pie, you can't put it together and make an al-hamincha, it doesn't work like that, it has to be a borin of fashos, so in order to be able to make al-hamincha, you have to eat a kazayas, a full kazayas of the outside crust of the apple pie, so the same way in these cereals that are mixed, the pieces are of various different ingredients, right, so you would have to eat a kazayas of only the flour part, in other words, of only the wheat flour or old flour, whatever it is, you would have to eat a kazayas of that, but if you eat a good way, I ate a kazayas of the cereal under a four minute period, but some of the pieces were made from the regular flour, like wheat, old, spelled, and some of the pieces were made out of the corn flour, but that was my kazayas, so then you would make a borin of fashos, right, so then you would make a borin of fashos, if you didn't eat a kazayas of the cereal, in other words, a 1.27 ounces total, or 38 milligrams total, under a four minute period, I ate very small, tiny amounts, and over a long period of time, so I never ate under a four minute period in total from the whole cereal, I never ate a kazayas, which is those measurements, which was gave roughly, I never did that, so then no afterbroch is made, but as long as the person ate a kazayas, again those measurements, even though it might be a mixture, if it's a mixture of various different things, right, some regular five grains, pieces, and then some other pieces of corn flour and other pieces might be rice flour, rice flour, whatever, so then a borin of fashos would be made, the only problem comes up when the person, you know, count, they want to count in the sugar and all the other ingredients, and as part of the regular cereal, when it's all one of the five grains, that's already makhalikis, which we spoke about a few shirma ago, obviously we know that makhalikis between Ramocha and the Mishabura, and when it has to be careful, if that's the case, you have to be careful, corn through Ramocha, you make only borin of fashos, it doesn't help, corn through the Mishabura, which says the miniguy lemis to make, all the makhi would make, but that's only if you're eating with the sugar, the ingredients that are sort of tuffle and part of the cereal, but if it's mamish, you know, pieces of the cereal, mizanos, and pieces of the misteria lasha hakul, because they're corn flour, whatever, and that's your kazayas, so then you have to make a borin of fashos according to everybody, even according to Ramocha, and even according to the Mishabura, and so on, because it's totally separate things, right, so then you'd have to make a borin of fashos, and not a al-hamir, because it's separate, you don't put it together, it's only over there where it's one thing, that's where the, another is like a marble cake, or if you have like a sponge cake or something like that, Mishabura says it's okay, but when it's a pie, like an apple pie, then even the Mishabura agrees, you don't put that together, you have to eat the full kazayas of the doppat, if it's one thing, like have a marble cake or sponge cake or something like that, then that's the makhlek, it's between Ramocha and Mishabura, but a pie, or like our case of cereals, separate pieces, so then one would not put it together, according to everybody, and you would have to make a borin of fashos, if you didn't eat the kazayas of the wheat flour, oat flour, so on, the five grains flour, those pieces under a four minute period. Okay, and one last thing, which he says, this is despite the fact that the initial broca, the initial broca could be mizonos, if I have mizonos and have right pieces of mizonos from the five grains, and I have corn flour pieces, so as we know, if you eat it together, right, eating it together, that's part of Ichavatuffle, the rules of Ichavatuffle, the only broca I would make would be a mizonos, but the after broca would be a borin of fashos, again, in conjunction with what we spoke about, unless you ate a full kazayas of the, a full kazayas of the, the flour, in other words, the five grain pieces, a full kazayas of that under a four minute period, then you would only make a al-hamrya, okay, that's the point over here, but if you didn't, then the after broca would be borin of fashos, even though the original broca was a mizonos, okay, it's a little bit complicated, I don't want to get too deep into it, anybody has any questions, please, please, please feel free to watch at me at 917-9575-6666, there's many, many various different details, and many various different combinations which come up, and he just ends up in the report, there's, I've had a huge big disadvantage, that bottom line is, things are changing, things are changing, and he says over the interesting at the end, the last paragraph of the, before he goes into the Maima kindness and so on, that a person shouldn't be surprised if their favorite material, the broca's are constantly changing, because this is part of the serial life in America, okay, or in Eric's role, or wherever it might be, thank you for listening, that's a lot of broca culture.