BiKitzur Shulchan Aruch
Ep. 834. Important Considerations Regarding Fruits in Cereal.
Important Considerations Regarding Fruits in Cereal.
Welcome everybody, shoot number 834 getting back throughout with Lucas Brochos. Okay, we are in the middle of going through the some various extremely important details brought down in a report in a printout, basically from a Rabbi David Haber from the Star K, all about cereals, how they're made and what the problems are and the various different brochas how to look at it and so on. Again, like we mentioned last year, we are not saying what broch to make for that, obviously one has to get the most updated list and we went through some various different issues to the point that the same cereal could be manufactured at the same time. We bought a case of Kellogg's corn pops where he mentioned over there that the same cereal is in various different facilities is made actually made in different ways, the same cereal by the same company of it sometimes with flour, sometimes with pieces, so that's how far it goes. So for some one to say, well make this broch and that broch it's it's almost almost impossible unless one finds out the various the latest the latest update on that cereal. Just a quick thing I want to mention reference to Kellogg's Crispix which we said last year that is the problem is it's mamish made half and half, half rice, half corn, half rice flour, half rice flour, which is mazonos and half corn flour which is shahako and he came out that you know one should make a broch on the zonos on something else and make a shahako on something else but he does say over there also that one could break it in half each piece and break it in take what night each piece one piece break it in half and on the lighter part which is corn to make a shahako or first to do the darker part which is rice, it brings on the darker part of that Kellogg's Crispix, the darker part will be the rice making a zonos on that and the lighter part is corn to make a shahako on that so that could be done also we did say lemise like he says also it's you're probably better off making a broch on something else in conjunction with what we spoke about last year. Now another interesting thing he brings down over there, first of all something he brings down which we spoke about reference to the cereal right we said bershemia moi chef somebody you have the regular amount of milk in your cereal and i'm not putting in extra because i'm thirsty and it's part of my cereal so that there's only one broch of course made on the iqr if it's adamu or if it's mazonos you just make a broch on that and the cereal is covered even though you might have a little bit left at the end it's all covered but the only thing is he does bring down over there in reference to some of the fruits sometimes cereals have raisins in it or sometimes strawberries people put in different type of things different type of fruit so he does say that that would be bottle we did see from ramosha brought down bananas and ramosha taka says in the chuva straight out that we we recorded the number of times one should make a separate broch so you know the the things like this if one is eating the fruits that they put in fruits if it comes with fruits usually the fruits are though are there to enhance the cereal so definitely if the cereal is mazonos and eating every spoonful a little fruit the eating in general the cereal a little fruit a little cereal as he eats each spoonful and the fruit is there to enhance uh basically the fruit is there to enhance the cereal you know um or somebody puts it into enhancer then one brochal haru will be made um but ramosha does talk about bananas he does say fruits of bananas to make some so i mean it could be ramosha was talking about possibly uh you know if somebody is not uh the in other words they're not doing it so much to enhance i have the cereal and i have the fruits i'm putting it together so i mean if somebody wants to play it safe to make you can make two brochas but you have to eat it separately i eat i let's say i have a banana before i put my banana let's say into the cereal so i'll make a whoa dumba on the banana right to make sure i make a bad uh hard dumba on the banana um and i'll make a uh brochal so if the cereals are dumbo so it doesn't make a difference anyways well it takes mazonos so then why don't you be careful to make a hard dama on a banana separately um i mean it's hard to say look hard to make first the mazonos and but but not put in the banana make a hard dama eat a bite or two of the banana separately and and then you don't have a problem right i'm eating the cereal separately or dumb and separately fine now i want to put it together you put it together the lafiria motion for sure that's good there's no shyler um but he does say if somebody for whatever reason does eat it together um let's say in a case a mazono some cereal cereal so and they eating it together so then it would only be one brocha um in the fruit would be um covered by the original by the brocha of the fruit he brings it in other words the fruit would be covered by the brocha the cereal because the fruit is there to enhance the cereal um that's what he wants to say and therefore it becomes a toffle uh becomes secondary to the cereal okay so he does bring down over the under normal circumstances so i'm not quite sure what that means exactly uh but but be it as it may if somebody does eat the cereal and the fruit is only there to enhance the cereal so that will be let's say even if the cereal shahaka so then the shahaka will cover everything again if if the person is eating the fruits and it's just there to enhance the cereal it's thoughtful to the cereal now persons not sure they like the cereal also uh they like the fruits also in this and the cereal and it could be you know the uh what we spoke about whereby remoishitaka says to brocha so then again same thing if somebody eat if you make two brochas it's fine but it has to be done separately i eat the banana separately right like we said emeka adama and i'm accepted on the cereal and we go from there so that's important thing to um you know to keep in mind and especially when it's when it's a mezonos when the cereal is a mezonos it's more rude to say also that it's a mamashtir you know you only to make a mezonos if he again as long as he eating it together so that that's the main um thing that we are talking about and and and it's also good if you're making the two brochas you want to make sure the fear about masha um the cover of masha so then like we said also to do it to make the two brochas before one starts eating i eat my banana separate the cereal separate you know to make the two brochas separately uh like this you're in you're you're in the clear okay so i i just want to say also uh rabbadna brings down taco also reference to the fruits and he says in most cases again in most cases so you know a person has to know um if they want to eat it separately that's for sure is that they make two brochas but he says in most cases again that the original brocha on the cereal um would cover the uh both the first broch and after brocha the l'chara would cover the cereal of course the milk for sure and even the fruits um as long as it's there to enhance the cereal that he brings down he says a word that it that it has to be there to enhance the cereal and in general we say that it's there to enhance the cereal so again that that's basically the story but again somebody feels they want to do it separately or they're not sure if it's there they're doing it to enhance they like the fruit also they won't eat it separate whatever so again two brochas could be made but it has to be eaten separately not not to make two brochas on the same thing of course that's running into a broch i'm Shane at Srija and one has to be careful not to do that thank you for listening us welcome brocha kolta