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Ep. 833. The Same Cereal by the Same Company Could Sometimes Be Made in Different Ways. Understanding the Concept: Some Cereals Are Split Equally Between Two Different Ingredients.
The Same Cereal by the Same Company Could Sometimes Be Made in Different Ways. Understanding the Concept: Some Cereals Are Split Equally Between Two Different Ingredients.
Welcome everybody. Shih number 833, getting back to our Hellhusperechos. Okay, we are going through some very interesting and extremely important facts brought down in the report written on the from the star K. Rabbi Hever, we spoke about, we started a couple of Shihram and we're trying to go through some various different ins and outs and various different things which he says, you know, what to look for and then we'll try and hopefully with the Shihram put up the link on the group and people could look at it themselves. I just want to explain to it, explain a little bit in detail what he's talking about because it's a little bit complicated, many of the various different facts. So we were going through different things. Now, one of the things he brings down over there that how intricate is the subject of the serials that he brings an example, that there for example Kellogg's corn pops, he brings a serial call it called Kellogg's corn pops. He says there's some places that in the United States, outside of the United States, but Peter has made the some manufacture, some places where they manufacture it and the same serial is made out of flour, corn flour, and some places the same serial is made out of corn pieces. So obviously one time it's going to be a chahakal, one time with the flour, one time it's going to be a huadama. So Mamush, same serial he points out over there in the report that is Kellogg's corn pops. One of the things to be aware of is made Mamush in different factories, different ways, whether it's in the United States, out the United States, that's again we like we keep on mentioning a person has to call the cashless agency and find out or look up their latest list and from the star K or whatever the case is from the OU, whatever, but just something to be aware that just because it might say you know a certain company well okay I see the box is Kellogg's corn pops but even that, even that he brings down it depends where it was made. It depends which manufacturer, which manufacturing place that they manufacture these Kellogg's corn pops which place wasn't made could be flour, could be pieces which would make a difference either chahakal or a huadama again on the same exact serial made in different places at the same exact time so it's a very, very interesting thing to keep in mind. An interesting point is that he brings down to that various, this particular serial or company, whatever the case is, at various facilities worldwide, Mamush, various facilities worldwide, so that's how complicated it gets and again more important the point that whereby one has to call, find out email, whatever the case is, talk to the hushkah and find out what brochta to make. Okay so the next thing he brings down really amazing stuff that I think people myself, I never even dreamed that these things are made like this, but he brings down that there's something called a serial called Kellogg's Chris Bix. I want to make it clear I'm not we're not going through how one should you know what brochta make in each serial again for that the person has to again like we said call up, get the latest list and so on when that's saying what brochta to make which is we're pointing out how complicated it is and we're we're the not so much how complicated but we're the problems might arise where one has to ask you know specific details and try and zoom in on those details. Okay so now like we said the Kellogg's corn pops you know percuss the ass is a flower or the pieces making a difference if it's cornflowers you're harkle if it's corn pieces right then we say who I've done so those that's for example just an example what one of the questions one is this now he brings on something called Kellogg's Chris Bix and he brings down over there that it's it's mamish half rice and half corn half rice half half corn. Now assuming corn flour rice flour so again we've we've learned in the past that rice flour is mazonos right corn flour is charcoal so what do I do if I have each piece is half rice has half corn um and he brings down talk at that rama shahinimashita the talker went down to the factory or the various factories where this is made and he came out that lemish it's mamish half half there's no eker and no tuffle meaning if you're reading a cereal and good so so the main the main thing is the rice so good so the corn is secondary let's say i'm giving example would be secondary to the rice i make amazonos all and let's say the main thing is the corn so the rice will be secondary to the corn and and then the uh or of the majority is the corn right so the the rice would be the rice flour would be secondary to the to the corn and one will make it shahakal if the if the corn is secondary to the rice one will make amazonos um because we learned in the past when amazonos always takes precedence mazonos when it comes to rice rice is the exception that it goes in the um in in the halakhas of eker for tuffle right that it goes by whatever's what the rice if it's more it's mazonos if it's less that it becomes a um shahakal for the other thing when we when we're looking at what is the majority whereby regular mazonos from the five grains is always going to be amazonos so getting again i don't want to get it to complicate i want to keep it extremely simple so we understand by this kelabs uh krispix he gives an example um it's mamish hef rice hef corn and to the extent that he brings down again from mamish hainimish lead to that once your mamish crack it in half and make two brochas but he does bring down at the end that the best way to go and which is what rebelsk is echosallik le brochor used to say uh when you have an issue like this when you have a problem whereby it flat out i don't know what brochor to make what am i supposed to do one should have you know make a brochor mazonos on something else and then make a shahakal on something else um you know that that's the bottom line that's the bottom line what one is supposed to do the only difference being over here um is that the rice uh the hef de brochor on rice requires a burn of fashos um whereby uh if it's something regular mazonos one it does require a alhametia meaning meaning if somebody says well i'll eat a mazonos i'll make mazonos for the rice part of this Kellogg's crisp picks and i'll eat something that's a shahakal for the corn part of the Kellogg's crisp picks right so for the shahakal i'll eat a candy i'll eat a little salt i'll eat a little sugar fine no problem but let's say for the rice for the rice part i'll eat something that's mazonos so now i'll take a couple of cookies right i'll make it mazonos have in mind the rice so one has to be careful uh in that case for example again i'm just trying to bring up all the various different case scenarios we're not going lemise over here which is bringing everything putting you know as they say in english putting everything out on the table you go to you put everything out on the table and we you know we take it from there we want first want to see what what exists out there what chylers are are the problem so um this he doesn't mention but i'm just mentioning uh you know by the side that if somebody takes let's say i'll take a few cookies and i'll have a mind the rice so if you have to make an alhametia um just have that in mind because for rice the f de brach is bernifosia so so in for example what's the best thing to do if you take something that's mazonos um and happens to be cookies cake or something like that you have to be careful not to eat it kazais you see the small little drop um enough to make a bracha right but it shouldn't be a kazais because if you eat a kazais under a form in a period then you have to make alhametia so it shouldn't be a kazais it's just enough i make a mazonos to cover the rice and i eat uh and i eat something chahakal to cover the chahakal part the corn part um of this kelauds christpix and then at the end i could just make a bernifosia because on the rice you make anyways a bernifosia it's an un rice flour or regular cook rice and on the corn you make anyways bernifosia so you make a bernifosia um as long as you eat a kazais under a form in a period and then you are good to go okay so that that's the story that's again another uh shyla which comes up uh kelauds kwan krispix just again bring it out on the table thank you for listening us lachambrach A cult of...