BiKitzur Shulchan Aruch
Ep. 828. What Is the Proper After Brocha to Make on Morning Cereals Made from Whole Grains (e.g., Sugar Crisp, Golden Crisps, Puffed Wheat, etc.)?
What Is the Proper After Brocha to Make on Morning Cereals Made from Whole Grains (e.g., Sugar Crisp, Golden Crisps, Puffed Wheat, etc.)?
Welcome everybody, sheer number 828, getting back to our hlokas brochas. Okay, we spoke about last sheer a few cereals, a couple of cereals. We said a while back that in general cereals, the basic guidelines to go with cereals gets a little bit complicated. There's various different brochas, some are hua-doma, some are shehakos, some amazonos, and that's number one. And number two, you have the problem which is things are constantly changing, the manufacture, whatever, the way it's made. In other words, like the famous example we said, like cornflakes could be from either corn flour, it could be whole pieces, and there's various different other type of cereals whereby things are sometimes made a little bit different, differently besides the cashless part of it. In general, and the best thing to do is, like we said, to go on the website in general or to get lists, they have these lists from OU, Star-K, various different cashless organizations in reference to the latest update on cereals, and to find out the general brochas. But last year, we were just talking about, in our simen, Raish Hess, Sif Dalid, which is very Nagelemyser in conjunction with certain cereals. It doesn't sound too Nagelemyser because it talks about if somebody eats a whole kernel of wheat. You take a wheat of kernel, write a grain of wheat, and it's a whole grain, Garin and Shleiman, and you eat it. So in general, the average person is not eating that too much, but we brought down, the Sif rites, Raish Hess brought down, and our simen Raish Hess Uis, your base, that it does apply to our certain cereals that are made like that with whole grains. And he brought a couple of examples. He brought the puffed wheat, which we spoke about. He brought the example of sugar crisp. He brought the sugar crisp, and golden crisp, and so on. And we mentioned last year that basically those are cereals that are made from popped or puffed wheat. They're not cooked, but it's mamish pieces of, it's whole grains, it's whole grains, whereby the brocha would be a hoa doma. And we mentioned the chupa from Raish Hess Uis had a dalid simen mamhe, which was brought down. These stock heberings are down, but Raish Hess says over there, the right brocha, hoa doma, but even if somebody made emizinos, definitely be the avid, they would still be yachts for various different reasons. We're not going to get into it. Now, that's as far as the first brocha goes. Again, in these two cereals where you have the puffed wheat and the sugar crisp, golden crisp, of course, one has to make sure it's the, you know, the hexure is okay. We're not giving any hexure on all these cereals. We're just talking about the basic concept as far as the brocha goes. As far as the hexure, everybody has to check their own box and so on, their own company. Okay, so now the question is, what about the after brocha? What about the after brocha said? Is it interesting, machalakis, over there in that, in that machaba, where the machaba brings down the Garin and Shlanam, the whole, if somebody, right, we have three different levels. Just to review again, we keep on reviewing. It's very extremely important to keep in mind. When you have the grain, you have the five grains, again, you have wheat, you have spelt, you have rye, you have barley, and then you have oats, right? So those are the five grains. If you eat it as a whole grain, it's huadoma in general. If it's ground up into a flour and it's eaten in the flour form, it's shahakul in general, and if it's made, and if it's ground up into a flour made into a food, you know, where if it's cooked, it's mazonas. If it's baked, it's baked, the snack food is mazonas. If it's baked into bread, of course, it's a mochi, like we know. Okay, so now, it's so interesting to note that the machaba over there in sif dalid, rich has sif dalid, our simmon, our sif, which we're talking about. When he talks about these whole grains, so he brings two sheeters. The first sheeter, he says, you eat a whole grain, fine. You're eating a whole grain, you have to make a huadoma, like we see in these cereals, right? And let's say, and if you eat enough, which would be, you know, it would have to be in a cereal form. In general, nobody's eating so many grains, where they'll have to make a huadoma, they'll have to make a afterbroch, but let's say eight cereals, of eight cereal. So you need a kazayas, right? We've spoken about many times, you have to eat a kazayas of the cereal, let's say, the puffed wheat, or the sugar crisp, or the golden crisp. So you'd have to eat a kazayas of that under a four-minute period, right? So if I eat up a bowl of cereal, then I need one, two, three. So I'm eating, let's say, kazayas, making sure I eat a kazayas under a four-minute period, right? So now you need a afterbrocha. So what afterbrocha do I make? What afterbrocha do I make on these cereals, right? Again, on those cereals that we're talking about, when it comes to whole grains, right? The sugar crisp, and the golden crisp, and the puffed wheat, and so on. So there's two sheets. So the first sheeter brings on, the first broch will be huadoma, the afterbroch will be burn the fushers. So then he goes on, but then the makhaba goes on to say that one second, we have a little bit of a problem, because the tastefus is not sure. He brings tastefus who sort of argues on the first sheeter. Okay, the first sheeter he brings, and then the second sheet he brings tastefus. And he actually says, "Tastefus does the makhaba." The shoshan arks says, "Tastefus, nastapku imuvarikla akhra of brocha may ain't shalish." The tastefus is not sure that it could be that you would have to make if you eat a kazayas under a four-minute period of grains, of whole grains, right? So then you would have to make possibly a brocha kazmein shalish. So what brocha kazmein shalish do we make? Do we make al-ha-mihya? There's no, so the place you can actually talk about, you can't make, there's no al-hua-doma type of a thing. You've made a very pre-adoma, so maybe we'll make al-ha-doma. You make on fruits, the five different fruits we spoke about, al-hua-aids, for pre-aways, you make on wine, al-gaffin, by pre-adgaffin, right? And you make al-ha-mihya, but what about al-hua-doma? There's no such a, there's no such a, after brocha, called al-ha-doma, a pre-adoma, so the place can talk about that, what do we do over here, right? What kind of main shalish, right? What kind of main shalish, meaning the long after brocha, which we've been talking about, we're going to have to get into more details. Well, the kazayas, so tai-so-says, is taka a problem. So tai-so-says, tai-so-says, And the Mahabir brings him down, "Haloq al-Amaiza, the kakh kasfum shanoha al-Aqale, al-Aqale, al-Bissai-Qasu, the dad." It's a good thing. It's good that one should eat it only in a meal. In other words, to wash, to wash and bench, like this you don't come onto the whole pram. If the renabir has hamoza in like this, you wash, you bench, you eat a piece of bread, because eyes are under a four-minute period. And then you go to go, and then you could eat that, serially eat these whole grains, like this you don't know the pram with the air for the brocha, because you're benching anyways. Okay, so it's brought there. He does bring it down like that, does the Mahabir. There's a second sheet of butt. So in general, so actually the safer, "Haloq al-Aqale" brings down. If somebody eats one of these cereals, the puffed wheat, and the sugar crisp, and so on. So he says, "Al-Kain, al-Aqale, al-Bissai-Qasu." That's a good thing, too, if it's possible to eat it in a meal, right, to wash. And I know my father always told me so he's washed, even if he would eat cereal for breakfast. He always has that piece of rye bed, at least because eyes are under four minutes. And like this, he could wash a bench and get a beautiful mitzvah minatura, if you're full of benching. But what about all those who don't? I'm in a rush. I don't have time to wash. I gotta run, right? I gotta just grab down my bowl of puff wheat, my bowl of sugar crisp, and I gotta go to work. I don't have time. Oh, so he brings them. "Lav, you've heard of burning fasheis." So then you can make a burn of fasheis. Now, how can you make a burn of fasheis? I don't know how it brings fasheis over there. So the Mishabra actually brings down in explaining that when you have to wear fasheis for ses to eat it in a meal. "Sesheis hasudifim, arishach. Holy shalab, sesheis hasudifim." If you're gonna eat it, not in the meal, if you're gonna eat it, not in the meal, then what should I do? I'm in a rush. I don't have time to wash bench right now. It's a beautiful thing, but I'm running out. I gotta just grab my bowl, eat my bowl. I'm making my burn of fasheis, what do I do for the fasheis? So he says, "I'm sorry." So then he says, "You've heard of burning of fasheis." Well, then once you make a burn of fasheis, "kiheinu, hu, me ikradin." Because me ikradin, that's really the halach. Me ikradin tells us the Mishabra and sif cotton, "Yotres." Me ikradin, it's really a burn of fasheis, would be the f, the bracha. And the deershoot actually brings on the spot. Very interesting that he brings work. Me ikradin, and then michiburin, me ikradin, hu, raha, going rub, slim, zalmin, from zalmin. Orbach, takotadik, clavrach, shein, sauriklam, nia, milach, harini, dagan, slim. In other words, if somebody says, "Well, you know what, I can't wash." So therefore, I'm not going to eat the puffed wheat. I'm not going to eat sugar, Chris, because I got it in the morning, I got it wrong. So I'm never going to eat it. That's it. Because I'm afraid I shouldn't be over what tastes fasheis to eat it during the meal. So he brings from R. Shlamiz Alman, shein, sauriklam, nia, nia, nia, milach, al-garina, dagan, slim. In mid of the war, you could eat the puffed wheat. You could eat the sugar, crisp, the golden crisp, you could eat no problem. Shein, saurikas, hu, the wive, like, havey ashil hannar, sarik, slim, zalmin, brit is says. He brings down again, in ice 13th, like, havey ashil hannar, ashil hannar, only brought to shita. Shein, sauriklam, nia, nia, nia, milach, harini, dagan, slim. It's a hitter. Another is, if you have the time, it's a good thing. That's what you should do. The right thing I'll be a lachat to do. If you could try and wash. And that's it. Like, this, you cover a taste fasheis to shita when you're, if you're eating whole grains. And the afterbrocha is a question, maybe, you may embellish there for wash and bench. And take a piece of bread, of course, and eat it, eat it because I use a bread under four minutes. Wash and bench, like this, you go to go. But he says, "It's a hitter." He brings R. Shlamiz Alman, says, "It's a hitter." You can't hold back from not eating puffed wheat or sugar crisp. And you could go ahead and you are good to go because the whole thing is a hitter. So they bring down the misa. Bottom line is, if somebody, they want to eat it. If Shlamiz Alman says, "Don't worry, you don't have to hold back if you can't wash." It's a good thing to wash. It's a hitter, nice thing. But you have to know what's a hitter and what's a pillar. And like the Mishmer said, Kishain, who may ikra didn't. May ikra didn is barre ne fasheis. Barre ne fasheis. basically, which is the first sheet in the Mahabah. Okay, so let's just we said a lot, a lot of details today. Let's just sum it up real quickly what we have. So, La Mysa, somebody eats again, whole grain for breakfast. In general, nobody's eating just whole grains, but you have it eating it, the sugar crisp, golden crisp, puffed wheat and these type of things. We're at whole mamish, whole grains, and it's not cooked. So, those type of cereals are whole grains, so the first bracha is going to be a hoad-dama, very pre-hoad-dama, but the evidence somebody made in the zonas, what Mysa said, it's also good, and the after bracha is going to be if it's possible, it's a good thing to wash, and then you don't even make a adama, then you just wash, if a person washes on bread, then you don't make a adama, that's your meal, your cereal is your meal, so you don't have to make a separate bracha on that, but assuming that you're not washing and they're not benching, which is a good thing to do, but you can't do it, whatever, so then you make the ha-dama, and the after bracha would be a bernafuschist, after bracha would be a bernafuschist, as long as you ate a kizai is under a four minute period of these cereals of the puffed wheat, sugar crisp, golden crisp, and so on. Okay, we'll stop here, I just wanted to read one more thing from the same for us for a lot, as he says, the Mysa bottom line is, he says bottom line is over there in Eisieur al-Fim, Ei Rech al-Akhlam shlogesser kasudi, he ate it not in the suit, right, he just ate the bowl, the cereal, whatever, verklaq rambirinafuschist, so he says in eislama gimmo, he says, he brings down from the Magna Vrom, the ikka kadairi shawn, that again, the main sheet in the shawnak is a first sheet that you'll make a bernafuschos, and you don't have to worry so much about taste, but it's over here, verklaq rambirinafuschist, he brings this, the Elio Arava says this, he brings from the ha-yadam, it's a bura like we saw, and so on, so you are good to go with the bernafuschist, as far as the cereals go, thank you for listening, that's a lot of improvement too.