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Underbuilt they should win, Marshall they should win, Old Dominion they should win, Rutgers at home they should win, At Stanford they should win, BC at home they should win, Georgia Tech at home they should win, At Duke they should win, Virginia at home they should win. So then you come down to what, at Miami at Syracuse home against Clemson. Now I'm not saying they can't lose some of those other games, but I don't think any of those other games are games you look at and say, wow, it doesn't fit this game. That's a game that Stanford or your Virginia Tech shouldn't have won. Right. So you'd have to win two of at Miami at Syracuse home against Clemson. And I don't think that they win. So now again, that could mean that there are nine and three 10 and two team and we still sell this one right that sure the premise comes down to how you view Virginia Tech, right? Because if you don't view Virginia Tech all that well, then you can say, hey, why are we giving them an automatic win at home against Rutgers? Why should we assume that they're better than Rutgers? Why should we assume they're going to go on the road and beat Stanford? Why should we assume that they're going to, you know, beat Georgia Tech at home? Oh, okay. That's fair. If you don't view them very high, then that makes total sense. You know, but I actually really like this Virginia Tech team and they were such a different team last year when Kyron drones took over quarterback, they really were. And I just think they're going to be a team to contend with this year. I mean, you look at them last year and say what seven and six lost by a touchdown to Purdue, lost by a touchdown to Marshall. And both of those really happened before drones really kind of, I think his first game he really took over was like, I think, Rutgers, he didn't really get hot and get really rolling until like the pit game. And then after that, they were a very good football team. They started off one and three and then finished the year six and three. And like he said, they got a lot coming back. And they had some really impressive wins. So they lost a Marshall by a touchdown. They lost a NC State at home by a touchdown, but then they blew out pit, blew out Wake, blew out Syracuse, blew out BC, blew out Virginia, blew out Tulane in the bowl game, bled Old Dominion. Now they got smacked by Rutgers pretty good. And they got smacked by Louisville and Florida State pretty good. But they were a very competitive team and they have a lot coming back. So my thing is, I don't, I don't think there's a lot of games they should lose. 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D-Troll Hunter, Bicell Hold, FSU only returns 56% of their offensive production. Bicell Hold, holding off on conference title playoff contender hype prior to them playing Clemson on October 5th. I tell that. They should absolutely be talked about as a playoff contender when they see title contender. Guys, listen, this is a new world. The whole, what percentage of your production you return from doesn't matter as much as it did four years ago. It just doesn't. Because of the transfer portal. I mean, the guy that you're bringing in at quarterback this year was every bit as productive as the guy you had last year and he's played in this league. I mean, that's the thing you have to look at it. This isn't some guy that's coming up from the Mac or some guy that's coming up from the Sunbelt. This is a guy that spent basically two years as a starting quarterback in this league, meaning the ACC. So, and again, they've recruited well. They've done well in the portal. I just look Vince, several years ago, I might have put a lot more stock in what you lost. Right. Right. This year. And you say, okay, at quarterback, they lost a guy that completed 63.9% of his passes to through for 2,756 yards, had 20 passing touchdowns and rushed for 176 yards and seven touchdowns. They were replacing with a guy who at the power five level, completed 50.7.1% of his passes for 2,638 yards, 21 touchdowns passing rush for 219 yards and pass and rush for six touchdowns. It's literally almost identical production from the guy that they lost. It's almost identical. And it's a power five guy and they both played, you know, now, Jordan Travis played, I think, one fewer game, but it's identical production. So, you know, it just, it doesn't matter as much to me. And so far, Mike Norville, and somebody in the chat just pointed out so far, Mike Norville has shown he's about as good as any coach in the country at taking portal guys and getting them rolling with your current guys. So that's, that's going to, you know, that's going to be very interesting. Very interesting. Yep. So, I'm selling that. I think they deserve being there now. Because like, again, the other part of it too is why are we ignoring how much production some other teams lost? You know, I mean, Texas lost their top, I think, four pass catchers from last year. And they're leading rusher from last year. Like, why, why aren't they part of the convert? Why should, should they not be part of the conversation? You know, like their quarterback comes back, but they lost Jonathan Brooks, who rushed for 1100 yards last year. They lost Xavier Worthy, who had a 1000 yards last year. They lost at 80 Mitchell, who's their number two receiver, they lost Jotavian Sanders, who's their number three receiver, they lost Jordan Whittington, who was the number four receiver. They lost Jonathan Brooks, who was the number five receiver. Should we not talk about them as a conference title playoff contender until they play Michigan in week three or something like that? No, this is, this is an ACC to me, an ACC anti bias thing, you know, where it's like, look, Florida State's been good. And Florida State wasn't a fluke last year. You know what I mean? Like, they weren't a fluke lasher. They won 10 games a year before Vince. They were 10 and 13 the year before. They weren't a fluke last year. He's been slowly building this program and rebuilding the culture. And I think they're going to be good. Now, will they be in the playoff? Could I see them not being the playoff? I could see them not being the playoff. I have, I'm struggling to understand why everyone is so down on Florida State. I'm really struggling with that because like, they went 13 and one last year. The only game they lost, they lost because like 90% of their starting lineup opted out of the game. They should have been in the comfortable playoff. And they had some good wins last year. They went, they they on a neutral field in in Louisiana, by the way, it was a neutral field, but it was in, it was in New Orleans. It wasn't exactly like, you know, a neutral field, they're playing in Orlando and it's pro Florida State. It was played in Louisiana. They went on the road on a quote, unquote neutral field and beat LSU by 21 points. They beat Clemson on the road. They beat Florida. They beat Louisville in a neutral field. They beat Miami like they did what they needed to do last year. That's a big wins. It's just that there's this lack of respect for the ACC that causes people to, to my opinion, kind of not give Florida State the respect that they deserve. And I so yeah, I'm selling that one. Selling that one. What are your thoughts, Vince? I put very little stock in offensive production coming back and I mean, there's so many more factors involved nowadays, you know, coaching, transfer portal, you know, all of those things. And the part of the question where it says not allowed to talk about them until Clemson October 5th, I mean, yeah, they should be favored to win all of their games up until Clemson. But we don't start talking about teams in their championship potential prior, you know, we don't wait until they play a big game. You know what I mean? Like that, that's silly. I mean, I, I'm not, it's not nothing against you D troll. It's just, of course, you're going to talk about teams preseason. You're going to talk about teams in the first four games. They play a couple good teams before that. We're going to learn a lot about them when they play Georgia Tech. We're going to learn a lot about them when they host Memphis. We're going to learn a lot about them when they play at SMU. We are now should they win all those games? Of course they should win those games. You know, but Georgia Tech's a team that's a dangerous team. Memphis last year went 10 and three beat Iowa State in a bowl game, almost beat Missouri. And then you look like Memphis last year who returns a lot of their production from last year, including their quarterback. They lost by seven points in Missouri, one 11 games. They lost by 10 points to Tulane who, who I think won the league last year. And then they lost to SMU by four points, who was a 10 plus one team last year and then beat beat Iowa State like I said in a bowl game. And then SMU this season again should be a good battle. Should they win that game? Of course they should win that game, but that's a team that won 11 and three last year. If Florida State goes out there and handles business up to that point in time, then we will, we should be talking about them beforehand. Now, Deetroll Hunter said that he has them losing to Georgia Tech. That's fine. Okay. But here's the thing though, to your point, if they beat Georgia Tech, then shouldn't we be talking about them? If you think they're gonna lose that game, then we should be talking about them, right? Bingo. Bingo. So I love his comment. I put a whole $5 on it. That's fantastic. He bets like me. I love that guy. I love that. That's like, that's, that's like my max bet. Usually it's like five bucks. And Vince gets nervous about that too, man. You're not kidding. You're not kidding. Bicell whole Mac Brown being coach at UNC in 2025. I'm so that. I think this is last year. I think this is it. I think this is last year. I just, I don't know. He just doesn't seem to have that same fire, you know, for coaching and they just haven't recruited the way that he should be. And they just haven't been, I mean, they weren't even a great team with Drake, but Brown or Drake May. And I think they're really going to struggle without Drake May. They got some talent coming back. That's fair. I just, I don't think he's made great hires. Mac should have, and I love Mac Brown. This is, this is going to sound super disrespectful, but I don't mean it to be. He probably should have stayed retired. He'd been out and I, I get why he came back in, but he'd been out of the game for a long time. And I just, and then, and the other thing too, that hurt him is he came back right as football got crazy again. You know, like he was here, what? His first year was 2019. And then in 2020 COVID hits. And then, you know, 2021 was a little bit nutty. And then all of a sudden the world goes crazy with NIL and the poor open portal and all I mean, it just unfortunately for him, a 70 year old just isn't going to thrive in that world who had been retired for six or seven years, right? You know, it's just not going to take away. I would make a correction. The LSU floor say game was played in Louisiana two years ago. Oh, okay. It was been Florida last year. Two years ago, they went into Louisiana and beat LSU there. Right. So I do want to make sure that that that work. We like being accurate here. And that was not an accurate statement. The games were flipped. They still beat LSU and really whooped LSU whoop LSU kind of came back late in 2022 floor state controlled that game. If they don't fumble the ball at the one yard line, that's a blowout. Remember that floor state's going in to just put that game away and fumbles it. Net let LSU get back in the game. The point stands is last year was not a fluke. That's my point. Last year was not a fluke. You know, they were a 10 and three team the year before. They had some bad losses. They lost to a pretty good Clemson team at a two point loss at NC State and a bad loss wake force. After that, they crushed Pete. Since that loss to Clemson, they they've gone, let's see here, 19 and one. And the only game they've lost since that lost to Clemson in mid-October of 2015, floor state's gone 19 and one and their only loss was a bowl game where literally the entire team, like almost the entire starting lineup opted out. And they won by 25, 42, 35, 32, 7, 3. That was against a bowl game against Oklahoma. 21, 53, 2, 7, 22, 38, 18, 25, 17, 7, 45, 9, 10. It's like there's not a lot of close games in there either, Vince, and those 19 wins. There's a lot of blowouts in there. So I just think, I think floor state needs to get more respect in my opinion. Buy, sell, hold West Virginia playing spoiler and beating Penn State week one and then not making the big 12 conference title, hurting the big 10s playoff resume. I think West Virginia is a three to four loss team. Well, I agreed to last part. Vince, you and I talked about this when we did our big 10 schedule. I said, don't sleep on that West Virginia Penn State game, right? Because Penn State, it's at West Virginia this year, I believe. Correct? Isn't this year it's at West Virginia schedule? I'm pretty sure I'm looking it up right now. I'm pretty sure it is at West Virginia. And they, they, they played it close with Penn State last year. I think the final score was like 38 to 13. Yeah, it's, it's at Penn State. Okay. I mean, it's at, at West Virginia. The final score was 38 to 15. And if you remember that game, Penn State ran a, ran the ball in with like less than 10 seconds to go in the game. They ran it up a little bit. West Virginia, was, I mean, it was a game that Penn State was clearly the better team, all game. But it wasn't like a game where they just embarrassed West Virginia. You know what I mean? Like they pulled away a little bit late. It was kind of battled and, you know, and, and they at least didn't look, they didn't get embarrassed, right? They didn't get embarrassed. It was a game that West Virginia or Penn State was clearly the better team, but they didn't get embarrassed. And so I think that game will be competitive, but I'm selling that they're going to actually beat Penn State. Like so that, so, so I'm, I'm going to sell that, but I, I think the submission is worth discussing because of what we talked about before, which is I do think this was Virginia teams in eight and four type of team, but they're going to be a scrappy eight and four type of team. That you, if you don't come in with your A game, you're, you could be in trouble. And I don't think much of Penn James Franklin as a coach, but honestly, I don't think much of Neil Brown as a coach. He had a nice year last year, but he, he was not good in the previous seasons. So that's going to be interesting, but I'm going to sell that. We got a new one up here. Yep. Just about to go buy, sell, hold despite liberty going undefeated this season. They do not end up the highest ranked group of five team and miss the playoff. Hmm. Yeah. If they're undefeated, I have a hard time with them not being Yeah. I mean, that's, that's going to be the thing for the group of five teams. I mean, they're going to give respect to whoever's undefeated and they're going to end up being, I mean, right. Last year's a perfect example. I did not think Liberty was the best group of five team last year. There was like three or four group of five teams I would have taken over them. I thought I'd have taken SMU over them. I might have taken Memphis over them, but the reality is is they're, they were undefeated. And so they got, they got in. I don't think they should have, but I think they did. And this year, I don't know. They're going to go undefeated this year. They got to play at New Mexico state. We'll see how they are this year after Jerry Kilr tired. They got to play at Appalachian state. They got to play at middle Tennessee should be a big win. Jackson State and home at San Houston state. I mean, just like, that's a system of stupid. I mean, this is their schedule. Campbell, New Mexico state, UTEP, East Carolina, App State, FIU, Kennesaw state, Jacksonville state, Middle Tennessee, UMass, Western Kentucky, San Houston state. They have no business being in the casual playoff. No, like, because here's my thing, you look at Memphis. Memphis plays North Alabama, Troy at Florida state, at Navy, home against Middle Tennessee, at USF, home against North Texas, home against Charlotte, at UTSA, home against Rice, home against UAB, at Tulane. If Memphis goes 10 and 2 against that schedule, they are a much better team than what Liberty would be at 12 and 0 or 13 and 0. That's a ridiculous, that team has no business being in the casual playoff. Now, the thing that does help Liberty a little bit is one of the better group of five teams got is no longer a group of five team because that's amazing over by the ACC. So I just think there's several AAC teams that to me should get in over an undefeated them. So, maybe that's me saying what should happen, you know, but so I, you know, like the premise of the question is basically agreeing with us, right? They go undefeated and that they don't get in. And I'm going to buy that because they, not, not so much because that I think he, that I think that they, it's more so me saying they shouldn't get in than necessarily feeling confident that they won't because we saw them do that last year. They got in last year and shouldn't have. So my thing is I'm going to, I'm going to buy that they don't because that's what should happen. Does that make sense? Yep. But I, but we saw last year, same thing. There was multiple group of five teams that had worst records in Liberty should have gotten in over Liberty last year. Their schedule last year was a choke. Our next buy so hold is after Texas loses back to that game's Oklahoma and Georgia, Georgia, comma, Arch Manning gets his first start in a Texas uniform. No, Brian, you cannot sell approach. No, I mean, the way that you ask the question, that's fine. I mean, you're, you're saying this is what happens. Yes. If that happens, this is going to be there. I'm still selling it. Selling the premise or say, sell the premise has to do with like, you know, it's just, it's not that I'm okay. I'm fine with this one. If Texas loses back to back games to Oklahoma and Georgia, I think there's a chance that, that they would bench Quinn Ears and go with Arch Manning. Yes. Yeah. Yes. I think that I buy that. I don't think that they should, but it would just, part of it depends on how does Brock play. I mean, Quinn play, like if they lose to Oklahoma and Georgia, 41 to 35 and then 38 to 34 in Quinn throws to here in yards each game, somebody's getting benched. It's not the quarterback. You know what I mean? Now, if he doesn't play one of those two games, then sure. So I just would need to, again, it's, the problem with these kinds of questions is it's hard to know the context of it. So if like, they lose both of those games, they average 40 points in those two games. Are they going to bench the quarterback? Because they're still a playoff caliber team. I mean, 10 to 2 with losses to Oklahoma and Georgia, but wins over Michigan and, and Ole Miss and teams like that, you're still a playoff team. I guess it could be a very dangerous playoff team. Yeah. You know, I, unless Quinn Ears just goes out and throws like four picks a game. He plays poorly in the off, exactly. I mean, and you'd have to look awful. You know what I mean? Well, even if he's just okay. It's not a long season though. Okay. I understand all that. But like, even if he's just okay, it's like you, you can't be just okay at that point in time. I could see it happening. I personally would not bench him, but there's going to be a lot of pressure on SART to have archmending play. I don't think there should be. I just know, I think it's nuts. I think if his name was Arch Jones and, and his dad wasn't, you know, Cooper Manning and his uncles weren't Eli and Peyton and his grandfather wasn't, wasn't Archie then we wouldn't have this conversation. And that's not a knock on Arch because Arch is a good quarterback. I had him as a top 50 caliber recruit coming out top 50 100 caliber recruit. It's just that a guy like him doesn't get the hype he's getting to beat out a three year starter who's a contender who took his team to the playoff last year, unless his name is Manning or something. That's the point. It's not even an anti arch thing. It's an anti media thing. It's an anti fan base thing. It's not an anti arch thing. Right. But completely agree. Completely agree. There we go. Bicell Hold, this is Josh, Josh Pates theory. Bicell Hold, the playoff committee will bump a hypothetical one lost Notre Dame down in playoff seating to accommodate conference title losers. So similar conference, but now it involves Notre Dame, right? I'm selling it in that they will just do that just because. Right. They're not going to do, I'm selling that because they're not going to do that to accommodate anyone. They'll do that if it's deserving. And that's what I was saying earlier. Like if Notre Dame's 11 and 1 and a 12 and 0 conference went, you know, regular season winner loses the conference championship game and they were ranked ahead in their name before. And it's a very close game to another highly ranked team with only one loss. Then then sure, okay, you can have Notre Dame down. But if a conference championship team is ranked behind Notre Dame and loses that game, they will not then jump because that's the premise he's saying. The playoff committee will bump a hypothetical one lost Notre Dame down. So the only two scenarios can happen in this case. One is they, the loser bumps ahead in Notre Dame or the winner falls, you know, the winner jumps Notre Dame and then they both stay ahead in Notre Dame. Well, that depends on, you know, is the is the loser number one Georgia who played the schedule they played and they lose by a touchdown in the big 12 title game or SEC title game. Guess what? That team would still have a better resume than a one lost Notre Dame team. They just would. If undefeated Georgia gets beat by Bama in the SEC title game at 12 and one, they would absolutely deserve to be ranked at Notre Dame. Right. So the team that most likely won the SEC. So I mean, it won't, so it could happen. So I'm not selling that it won't happen. There's no way Notre Dame drops. It could happen. But I think it'd be because the committee responds to the new data and it's a justified drama. Right. Right. That that would be the thing. Because the point that you that you always make and you're absolutely right is the committee has been pro Notre Dame and it's the same committee. I mean, you had the people change it, but it's still the playoff committee and they have done Notre Dame. They have done right by Notre Dame. They have. And I don't see that changing anytime soon. I think that there will be resume reasons if Notre Dame right gets bumped. So, so let's say Notre Dame loses to Texas A&M only SEC team they play all year. Notre Dame sitting there in 11 and one and you've got two SEC teams that now have one loss. They're both probably going to be ahead of Notre Dame and both probably should be ahead Notre Dame based on resume. I mean, if the roles were reversed and Notre Dame had beaten an SEC team, we'd be using that as an evidence of why Notre Dame, well, hey, they played an SEC team and they beat that team by more points than the number two team in the SEC beat that team by that's what we'd be arguing, right? So, I just, I think it could happen. I don't think it'll like, example is earlier if Ohio State beats Oregon or vice versa. And then the other team wins the rematch game and they both have one law. They're both 12 and one and they're two games they played against each other were super close games. They beat everybody else. They probably both have better resumes than a one loss Notre Dame team. Sure. It's probably true. Yeah. And they should drop them, but it will again, but it won't be to accommodate the conference title game losers. That's the difference to me. I don't think they'll do that. I don't. And the other thing too is it's probably best not to get into that standpoint because if you do that, let's say Notre Dame is it's at five, you drop, you put the loser ahead of them and that team now becomes five, they go play the number 14, but now in the semifinals, you're going to have an SEC versus SEC because four goes and plays one. It most likely in that case. So that's kind of the way, that's kind of the way I look at it. So, I don't think it'll be because of accommodation, right? It'll be because the resume's better. That's what I think. Lucky nine oh five by sell hold and D will have two tight ends drafted in the 25 NFL draft sell. Yeah. I don't think you're right and leaves early. That thing's coming out. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a sell for me too. I don't think they'll have the opportunity to have to drafted. So that's definitely a sell. Thirteen reasons why buy sell hold if the pack two stays alive and expands, it will be known as a group of six versus a power five, at least initially. Bye. I mean by that too, because they've already been pushed out of the college football playoff as far as a champion, they'd have to go and change the rules again. Well, they have some things in there for them like payment and stuff like that, but like they don't get an automatic bid unless unless they're the highest ranked group of five team. Right. That would be how they would get in. They're ranked higher than any of the group of fives. I believe it's how it would work. If they go out and add like San Jose State, Fresno, San Diego State, Utah State, Wyoming, they're still a group of five team because you just added those two teams to a group of five team. That's what you did. And it would make it a group of five league. They would have to go out and improve something. And I don't know the specifics of what goes into how you get determined to be that. I know there's got to be some level of data that determines that I still know what it is. That's kind of where I'm at. So yeah, I'm going to buy that. Fields of gold by sell hold at the end of the year in a range strength of schedule will be higher than it is going in. Hmm. I'll buy that because of what we talked about earlier. I've said, not only it's earlier today, I mean, earlier in previous, I think USC is going to be better in people think I think for say it's going to still be really good. I think Louisville is going to still be really good. I think part of the thing that that drops their names perception down is that people don't view USC as being very good. And they're going to have a rough year and all that. And I think USC can be better than people think. I think for say it's going to be a top five to 10 team or top 10 team again. And so yeah, I'll buy that. I'll buy that. Yeah, I like that. I agree with that. Also from fields of gold by sell hold, there will be at least one team on another name schedule that makes the playoff by that we both have Florida state and playoff, right? 100%. So that's absolute buy. We got to stay consistent because your thing was you had them beating Clemson twice, right? They losing another name. And then I actually had them go on 10 and two losing to no, I had them going no, I had Clemson winning it. So I had floor state going 11 and one and then losing to Clemson and the ACC title game. And I think they both get it. Yeah, I think they both I think those are the two teams from the ACC. I think Florida state wins the ACC title. Then I don't think Florida's I don't think Clemson gets in because I think they'll then have three losses. Yeah, the only way that that happens is if they beat if they beat Florida state in the regular season and lose to Georgia, and then Florida state beats them in a rematch and Clemson's 11 and two with two really good losses, then yeah, I think they'll get into. But yeah, I think Florida state's a playoff team. They're going to be in my playoff prediction. We'll do that here next month. Mr. Neil Wagner. I get that. That's funny. By so whole because of the misses on wide receiver in the 25 cycle, Mike Denbrock will lean heavier on wide receiver production. And right at end will pass for over 4,000 yards and 30 touchdowns. And if if so, results in the starters in the starters. Okay, got you. And if so, results in the starters staying in the game against inferior teams, at least one series longer and blow out games. Okay, so like this feels like three different things Vince. Okay, so, so, because I saw what you were getting where I say like, like, okay, let's let's break it down to one. Because of the misses at what I ride receiver in the 2025 cycle, Mike Denbrock will lean heavier on the receiver production. Sell that. Yeah, Mike Denbrock's going to do what he's going to do to win games. Correct. That's going to be what the goal is. Now, could that result in other things? Sure. Now, will Riley Leonard pass for over 4,000 yards? I'm buying and 30 times I'm buying that. Here's why I'm buying that. Because when we talk about 4,000 yards from a recruiting standpoint, it's no longer the 12 plus one. I don't think he passes for 12 plus one for 4,000. But I've said before, I have Notre Dame going on a run in the playoffs. So I haven't playing in at least 14, 15 games. At that point in time, I do think he'll get the 4,000 yards. If the team is as good as I think they're going to be, certainly the over 30 touchdowns. And the results will be started saying in the game against if you're no, sell the heck out of that one. Because they're not going to keep guys in the game longer for stats. That there's no way, no way that they'll do that. There's no way Marcus Freeman would allow that to happen even if Mike Denbrock wanted to do that. And there's no way Mike Denbrock is going to want to do that. Because here's the deal guys. If Notre Dame's scoring 40 points a game and they're a playoff team and they throw for 35 to 3,700 yards, they're going to get receivers. Like the problem is they've barely been topping 3,000 in the two of the last five years. They didn't even get to 3,000. That'll be the difference. So they don't need to do that. I know where your head's at, but they don't need to do that. 100%. The fact that, look, recruiting's important. Don't get me wrong. But Mike Denbrock's not going to be sitting in the booth calling plays like, OK, we got to get another touch on for somebody to impress somebody else. I just don't see that being the thought process during the game. And I also don't see it as a thought process for Marcus Freeman being like, hey, let's keep these starters in an extra series so that we can rack up the stats. That's just not how coaches think, at least most coaches. And I just don't see that being the case. I understand where you're coming from here. And I think the end result of the way the offense is going to operate will be beneficial in recruiting. I just don't think that's going to be the top of the priority thought process. When you're calling plays and blowups to get more touchdowns, I'm fine with that when it's the backups. Absolutely. When your backup team gets in there, let them throw the ball. Let your backup quarterback throw the ball. Let him lead your offense on touchdown drives. Go for it. Don't just run your 12 person on hand to ball off every other time. Run the offense. That's where you try to get scores. And that means it's running up the score, but it's in the way that you should run up a score. It's like, look, my guys, I teach my team to play for 60 minutes. So whoever's on the field is going to play like it's a nothing, nothing game. I'm not going to put my backups into game and say, okay, because here's what drives me nuts. Teams will get into those situations as the team losing and their defense will just all out blitz. Okay, if you don't want me to throw the ball, don't put 11 guys in the box and try to get a three and out, right? Run your normal defense and then we'll run our normal offense and see what it is. Don't cry that we're throwing the ball when you're putting, when you're loading the box up, because you're playing to stop the run. No, don't do that. And so yeah, I'm all about, I used to love when Bobby Bowden would be like, would say that he'd be like, you know, these kids work hard too. They deserve a chance to play because he put his backups in and they're throwing the ball score into, you know, you run a score up. So you practice all week, you didn't practice to stop them from score. You guys didn't work on that this week. You know, if you don't want us to score, like here's what's running up score is events leaving your starters in for too long. You're up 42 to nothing. It's five minutes going to fourth quarter, put your starters back out there to get to another touchdown. That's running out of the score. Running up the score is we're up four touchdowns and late in the fourth quarter. And we run a flea flicker or a reverse or some trick play to get another score or or the other team, you know, you're down four scores. The other team has conceded pretty much. Put their back all their backups in. Yeah, you know, whatever. And you still got your starters in trying to roll the ball. Like I got a problem with that. Yes, agree. That's running up the score. Putting your backups in and letting them run the offense the way that that you would if they were the starters is not running up score. No, that's developing your team. It's called playing football. That's what's called. Yeah. And my job is to score. Your job is to try stop me. Yeah. And that's that's that's what I believe. Yeah, absolutely. G Perez by cell hold under name has at least three players with a thousand yard seasons rushing or receiving not combined 13 plus one model. So that's winning. That's getting to the playoffs. Winning a game. Yeah, it's a game. Yeah. So getting to the quarters who I'm still selling. That's a lot to get most. Yeah, what I think what would happen is in a 14 game thing, one receiver gets into a thousand. Yes. And then one running back gets to a thousand to. Yep. Exactly. Completely agree with that. Because he said it's rushing or receiving. Correct. But not combined. Right. Because it's combined. I may say by because I could see the two running backs both being over a thousand combined. Sure. And then a receiver. Right. But in that case, no. By cell hold, two group of five teams go undefeated and one of them forces a two loss power four team out of the playoff. I'm selling that. I mean, like the only way that that happens events is if there's like, and I don't even know who that would be. If like Memphis is one that comes to mind, right? Let's say Memphis goes 12 and O and Boise State goes 12 and O. Let's say they both go undefeated. That may happen. Why? Because as I mentioned, Memphis has to play floor state. If Memphis goes 12 and O and they beat floor state on the road, they beat UTSA on the road. They beat Tulane on the road. They win the ACC champ AAC championship. They beat Troy who won what 10 11 games last year. They're in. Right. But then if Boise goes undefeated, well, they play at Oregon. They play Washington State at home. They play Oregon State. If those teams go undefeated, they're probably in and they would for somebody. The odds of that happening are very slim. Yes. The odds of those two teams going undefeated playing on the road against those teams, very slim. So I'm going to sell that. Yeah, I'm going to sell that. And it would most likely force a three loss power for team out of playoff, more so than a two loss power team. There's just not enough games where those schools have chances to play. Enough quality opponents to get to that point. So I'm selling that. G Perez with another one by cell hole. The Big Ten champion is the number one seed and the only conference champ to go undefeated. Well, I have to sell that because we both had them. Yeah. Number one, I've said, I don't think anyone in the power five goes undefeated or power focus undefeated. I've said that. And the other thing I've said is I think that in the Big Ten, I predicted a hostage to lose at Oregon and then beat Oregon in a rematch. So I think that's how those two teams get beat. So no, I don't think now if Ohio State beats Oregon at Oregon, it still doesn't change my answer because now you got to beat them again on a neutral field. Good luck with that. Right. You know, so yeah, I'm selling that. I just think when you look at the best teams in the country, man, it's for the most part, they all have really tough schedules. And so I just think it's going to be harder for them to go undefeated. So I'm selling that. I think all those are good submissions that make you think I do, but I just I'm still I feel back because I sold all three of them. They're really good submissions though. Like they're like, okay, let's think about that. Because like 15 years ago, that group of five thing would have been more of a conversation because you had Boise was a phenomenal team. Utah was still a power. It was a group of five team. TCU was still a group of five team. BYU was still a group of five teams. So you had more that UCF was a group of five teams. Like part of the problem is a lot of the best group of five teams are no longer a group of five since now a power four. UCF's a power four, SMU's a power four, Utah's a power four, BYU's a power four, TCU's a power four now. And the only team that's really left that's had some seasons like that is what Memphis. Right. That's really it. I mean, Boise's out there, but they're not the team they used to be. So you just really don't have those kind of teams anymore. They've all been kind of gobbled up by the power five conferences. Greatness hurts. It's 10,000 hours of hard work, sweat, and setbacks. The aches, the stumbles, the falls. Tylenol provides pain relief for the champion in us all. It's the number one doctor recommended brand of pain relief and fever reduction. This summer, when greatness hurts, Tylenol will be there with care to help you keep chasing it. That's Tylenol. That's care without limits. Visit tylenol.com/greatness-hirts to learn more. Use this directed. Walmart has the trusted brands and products your kids need for school. Like HP Chromebooks. Yep. Reebok hoodies. Yep. Pokemon pencil cases. I think you know the answer, but just in case, yes. Go back in style with Walmart. B-C-N-D by cell hold. Notre Dame rushes for less than 100 yards at A&M and more than 200 yards at SC. Cell and buy. Oh, we're going to bring it back. So the A&M one buying the USC one. If I have to take them all as one, I'm selling it. Okay. So your bot, wait, which one are you selling? I'm selling that they're going to go for under 100 against A&M. They're going to go more. Yep. And I'm buying that they're going to go over 200 against... So you don't think that the enhanced defensive staff and all that are going to be able to hold Notre Dame to under 200 yards rushing? I don't because I still think they have some depth issues. Okay. And I think by that point in time, the season Notre Dame's offense is going to be really rolling on the run game. Plus again, you're going to have the quarterback run is going to be part of that thing too. That's a good point. The run game is going to be extremely important in game one. There's no doubt about it, especially with right of the Leonard. I absolutely sell this one just based on the first part. Because saying that Vince doesn't mean that they're going to go out there and gash A&M and they could run for 110 yards. It's not a very good game, but they still went for over 100. This is true. No, that's a good point. I was thinking in my head, I'm thinking like a 100 yard rusher. You know what I'm saying? And so like that one made me pause, but you're right. 100 yards as a team, they could go 110 yards and lose. And get dominated. You know what I mean? Really dominated. Yes. Yeah. Correct. Bicell whole Jack Kaiser is credited with more than 80 tackles to surpass JD Bertrand's career total of 266. I don't know what Jack's career numbers are, but I assume if he gets to 80, that passes him. I'll buy that. I'll buy that too. I think Jack, you know, there's going to be a bit of a time share, I think when it's all said and done. But I think, man, that kid's got a nose for the football. If anybody watches Jack Kaiser play and they use zero in on Jack and what he does when he's on the field. He's got a nose for the football, man. Like he's going to rack up tackles. Like we had that in question about two guys being over 82 tackles last year, 62 tackles last year. And how many? And played half the snaps that that JD Bertrand play. There you go. Well, there you go. Now a little difference. Obviously, he's playing inside, not outside, but I don't think that's going to matter. All right. He tied for the team lead and solo tackles last year and played half the snaps. Just just to give you guys a specific number, you know, because again, just to put into proper context or say it's about half. So last year on defense, as I said, JD Bertrand had 76 tackles. Correct. Let's see here. What was JD's number last year? JD had led the team with 76 tackles and Jack had 62. So JD only had Jack had 14 fewer tackles than JD had last year despite playing limited snaps. So here's the number. So JD Bertrand last year had 647 snaps. Maris Lea Hall had not 595. Jack Kaiser had 354. So it's less than half, but it's close to that. So twice of that would be 708. And JD played 647. So you're only 61 snaps away from it being exactly that half. So and he was only 14 fewer tackles. So yeah, I'm going to tell I'm going to buy that. I think Jack's just a productive, you know, and again, that doesn't mean he's going to be a phenomenal player. I just think he's going to be around a ball a lot. I think he's going to be a really good player, but it just means he's going to be and Jack had 58th year before again and only played 300 some snaps. So like this is a kid that's just around the football a lot. He had 45 snaps. So he had 58 snaps and 22. And he only played 338 snaps. He made 45 tackles in 2021. And he played 398 snaps. So he's never gotten a 400 snaps in a season and he's been averaging over 50 tackles a game or a season. Okay, that'd be that'd be that's that's where that guy's just throwing everyone on the team as an assist on every play. Yeah, you know, so yeah, we've seen that. Jack had four solos and 46 assistants. Yeah, nose for the football. Yes, he's always around the ball. So yeah, I'll buy that. You want more of that mints? Oh, 100%. I when we had that question about two guys being over 80 and we kind of sold that one. It's a buy for me with one guy over 80 because I think Jay, Jack will be that guy by sell hold wide receiver Tyler Buckner completes one or more passes to quarterback Riley Leonard. So that's a sell for me too. I don't think they're gonna have to get that like tricky and gimmicky. That's the word I'm looking for gimmicky. And just don't see that being the case. Plus, if Tyler Buckner's throwing to Riley Leonard, I mean, Tyler Buckner's on the field with the first team offense. That's also that is going to be so alert, alert, alert on seriously. Like, you know, the quarterback is on the field. There's another quarterback on the field. Yes. Yeah. We are Notre Dame by sellhold. The big 10 has more teams in the playoff than anyone else. So based on what we said earlier, yeah, it's a sell based on what we talked about by sellhold Colorado upset at least two teams on their schedule as the underdog. What what's so if it's just well, I mean, in if it's just as an underdog, then so you tell me let's go through this. You tell me which games you think they're going to be an underdog. Because again, you're the gambling man. And I say that kind of sarcastic because you had like five bucks at a time. Seriously. All right. So North Dakota State. Did you just tell me if they're the favorite or not? Favorite. Okay. I think they lose that game at Nebraska. They're still the favorite though, right? I mean, that's agree. I agree at Nebraska. They would be the underdog. I would think. You'd think the media the way it is though. Who knows? Like, is there an early line for Nebraska Colorado? I'm gonna see if I can look that up. See if there's an early line for. They should have buffaloes or minus two and a half. So they're favored. Wow. So there you go. Yeah. And they're going to lose that game. Right. So I'm saying. Yeah. Right. So that's the problem too with this is that, you know, how many games are going to be underdog? So home against Baylor. They're the favorite. Right. So what about what about at UCLA? Y'all at UCF? I think they would be the favorite probably. I mean, it's at Central Florida. So you know, that's a heck of a, that's a heck of a, you know, travel day, going all the way from Florida is record going to be. Well, I put if Central Florida beats TCU, they might be favored. So, and again, I don't think I don't know that they beat them. Home against K state. They think they're favored that game. I think K state is favored to win the league. So, right. So at Arizona, there'll be an underdog there. So do you think they can be their zone on the road? It's possible. It's possible. It's possible. Since an adding home, they won't be the, they won't be the underdog there. And the same, they shouldn't be the underdog at Texas Tech. I wouldn't think Texas Tech Utah at home. They'll be the underdog there, and they're not going to beat you. So you think they'll be the underdog? Well, part of that, by that time in the season, Vince, so much of this depends on how good are they at that point. Sure. You know, and if Colorado is a pretty good team, but, you know, maybe, but, yeah, at Kansas, they'll be an underdog. Maybe they'll win that game and then home against Oklahoma State. So, I just don't see them being an underdog enough times to win those two games. Yeah. Unfortunately. Yeah, I know. And if late in the year, they'll be in the underdog a lot, but because they're going to, people are going to realize they're just not very good. Well, that's the thing. I just want to know that they're good enough to be winning games. They're not supposed to win. I also think, and I don't like saying this because you know my stance on coach Sanders, I actually wanted him to be successful. I have been very disappointed in how he's conducted himself this off season. And, and, you know, he, he is having a tough time separating himself from being a dad and being a coach. Yeah. You should never separate yourself in life that there's been dad in the coach. You should separate yourself in regard to how you respond to situations as a father compared to when you're also the kid's coach. And the, the, the, the, the, in your feelings, manner in which he engages on social media whenever someone has anything remotely insulting to say about one of his kids is just a bad look. And the manner in which he's gone after past players and some of the things we've heard about him forcing people to go to concerts that Shador was going to be part of or something, you're going to lose your team real fast if you lose some of those early games. Like, so if they lose to like Nebraska or God forbid North Dakota state, that team is going to quit on him. Yep. Well, that team's a bunch of mercenaries too. That's the other part about going to the transfer portal all the time and dumping your team, you know, dumping half your team every year and, you know, resupplying the transfer portal. There's no loyalty there. In my opinion, that's not how you build a college football team. That's how you build an NFL team free agency. Okay. Cool. That's not how you build a college football team. College football is different in the NFL. It's just different. You know, there's a lot more four or five lost teams that make the playoffs in the NFL than we'll make it in college football. So it's just not the same. It's not agree. Agree. Let's see. Oh, we got one more here. So from we are Notre Dame by Cell Hold, a team not in the top 25 to begin the season makes the playoff. I mean, it's much more possible now than it was before. And it was still possible before me Notre Dame played in the BCS title game in 2012 and began the season undefeated. So I just don't know who that team would be. Well, and you know, just to throw another curveball in there, how about like a group of five team that ends up getting in. There's a good chance they're not ranked right now. That's a good point. Whoever that could possibly be really good point. Like what's ESPN's pre-season top 25? Like what's their let me let me pull up this. Let me see here. They had a thing recently where they kind of looked at the top question marks for the top 25 teams. Let me see if I can find that article here. It doesn't look like it's there anymore. But I don't know what they're like off top of my head. I have to look at the early top 25 and see if they have like who do they have those teams who do they have as a pre-season top 25. So I'd have to I'd have to go look at it and they don't have it on the front page, of course. So anyway, that's a good bet, Vince. Let's just assume that like I don't remember Liberty or Memphis being ranked on the top 25. So let's go to that one. So I'll just buy it. Yeah, I'll buy it. Now, if you were to say a team not in the top 25 is going to get an automatic bit or like a like win their conference, not automatic bid per se, like because like you could win your conference, but like winning the group of five to me is different than an unranked team going out and winning the big 12. Sure. You know, like that, you know, TCU is one that kind of pops my head like they are getting slept on a little bit. I don't think they're going to win the league though, but other last year is a little bit of an an anomaly season for me. All right. BC from BV, buy, sell, hold, Josh Burnham ends up the starting strong side end. I'm okay with that. If that happens, I'm going to probably sell it just because and I was having this conversation with somebody the other day. It doesn't matter if you start the game. It matters who plays the clutch moments. Sure. And art of those type of decisions, if you're going to play two guys, you're going to play two guys as part of rotation. You have to think about what is the best thing for us as a from a culture standpoint in regard to who plays first. In a lot of times, you'll see teams where there is a rotation and a somewhat, you know, 50 50 is split. You'll see the veteran players get to start. Sure. And that would be RJ open. But I could see scenarios where RJ starts every game, but Josh plays as many snaps if not more, or Josh plays more fourth quarter snaps as well. Like I could see something like that. So I'll sell it just because I think the veteran will start, but I think Josh is going to play a ton and he's going to be a breakout player for me in my opinion. Buy, sell, hold from third and seven duo. That's funny. In three years, we will look back at wide receiver recruiting the same way we look at quarterback recruiting now. Once was a weak point for the Irish and in three years will be our strength. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. Once Mike Dembrock gets this offense rolling as long as Mike sticks around for a decent amount of time and say three years for this, you know, particular conversation, then yes, I agree with that because teams are going to kids are going to start looking at this offense and be like, I want to be a part of that. Yep. So just like Mike Mickens, right? It wasn't that long ago, fans in his chat, no, any fans complained about how he wasn't this, he wasn't that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Now look at him. It's like we get more questions about basically like kind of, oh my God, what happens if Mike Megan's leaves were I so screwed? Yeah, you know, yeah. And it didn't take that long to change that perception either. No, it started it results in the field. Right. Exactly. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Double R buy, sell, hold, Drake Bowen being a true junior captain. I think we got this last week. It's possible. That would be next year, right? He's a sophomore. Yeah. Yeah. It's possible. I'm holding on that for now. I just want to see him. I think I held it last time too. I just want to see him start a game first before we start talking about him being captain. Right. But I could see it, but I just hold it, especially, especially with him playing baseball. That's the other thing is, I don't know that I would want to name him a captain if he's going to be playing baseball in the off season. Not going to be around all the time. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. That's not a shot at him. It's not even a, you know, a negative thing. It's just, hey, man, look, you got to do what you got to do. Don't worry about being a junior captain. You just go play baseball, do your thing and don't, you know, it's not an insult. You're still a leader. It's like, I mean, if you're the Mike line back to your leader on defense, it doesn't matter whether you got to see on your chest or not. Right. When whenever you're in the huddle, they're listening to you. Correct. It's quarterback. You're making all the checks. You don't need to be a captain. You have to act like a captain, but you don't need to be a captain. Correct. So I'll sell that one. Or I'm holding that one, but, you know, just because I want to see him start a game first. But if I had to pick one, I'm definitely selling. If I had to pick one, I'm definitely selling. I'm selling. I just don't see that being the case. But yeah, see what happens. Kingston, Viliama, Asa and Drake being the top two round draft picks. I'm going to sell that just because there's a lot of times Vince, then top linebacker in a draft class isn't even picked until the second round. I mean, just linebackers been deprioritized in the NFL. So it's, it's a lot harder to get that done. And being a third round NFL draft pick as a linebacker is a pretty impressive thing. Now, I'm still blown away that Maris Lee if I was a third round draft pick a linebacker. But I mean, that's just, that's just the reality of it. You just do not see that as much anymore. You really don't like this year. You had total, you had seven guys picked in rounds two and three only had one true off ball linebacker picked in the first two rounds this year. Wow. It was not a very good linebacker class, right? I'll be a sell then the year before you had see five linebackers quote unquote linebackers drafted in the first two rounds. But let's see one, two, three, four of the five were, were like edge guys, if I remember correctly, will Anderson is counted as a, as a line linebacker, because he's a stand up outside linebacker. He's an edge rusher. You know, so it just you had Derek Hall, I'm pretty sure Derek Hall was Nolan Smith was an edge rusher. BJ, I think Ojilari was also from LSU was also an edge rusher, but he might have been more of a true off ball linebacker, but there weren't a whole lot of off ball linebackers at the most three period in the first two rounds. So that's just kind of where rat Vincent, day and age of linebacker player just not seeing a whole lot of those guys get picked in the first two rounds. Yeah. So are they talented enough to be that way? Sure. Sure. But I'm just trying to look at the, that's like saying, Hey, Jeremiah, love's gonna be a first round draft pick. Well, he should be if he's as good as we thinking, well, doesn't mean he will be, you know, just because the nature of, of how that position is viewed in the draft. But yeah, that's, that's, that's my take on that. You ready? Got another one. All right. Oh, I was waiting for the next slide. We got one more bottom there. Buy, sell, hold, Jadarion price. I'm sorry. The look on your face, like, dude, flip the card. You're looking at me look at such like, Brian, you got one job. It's like, you're making me look bad here. No, no, it's one more question. Well, you know, the funny part is I had already answered the question in my own head. And so it's like, I've already done it. We need to move on. So anyway, yeah, my sell hold, Jadarion price leaving because of a great season and being a day two draft pick. I'm gonna hope by that one. Third. Yeah, I'll hope by that one because if Jadarion has a big year, that means it's often going to be crazy good because I think I also think Jeremiah is going to have a really big year. So yeah, I'm going to hope by that one. I mean, if I practically speaking, I'm selling. Yeah, I'm selling it. One season of good health and production doesn't get you into, you know, day two, usually, unless it's crazy production. So if I'm being realistic, I'm selling it, but I'm going to hope by it because it'd be fun. It'd be cool if you did that. And I like Jadarion. And that means he'd have a big year. Riker ferg by sell hole, depending on the success of the offensive line, it will show one, that Joe Rudolph is a better fit as just a position coach than position coach and coordinator at the same time. And two, when Joe Rudolph comes back to Wisconsin in 2015, the very Alvarez culture was becoming less and less. I think the number two is a bit of a cop out. I think that's a bit of a cop out. And here's the thing is, isn't that kind of a negative on Joe Rudolph? You couldn't keep that tradition rolling. You couldn't keep that focus and the physicality and all that. I mean, you know, I'll get that. And number one, sure, I think if offensive line is really, really good this year, it would tell me that Joe Rudolph is better just being an old line coach. Yeah, you're just coaching a line. Don't worry about, you know, trying to dominate the run game talk and force them that you're what you like in the run game on your OC, just go freaking coach, the offensive line. And that's what it would prove. So yeah, I'll buy that. I'll buy that. It's always easier to do one thing instead of two. Especially when that second thing is being in charge of the entire offense. That's the thing. It's tough for them to know a line. Yes. And a lot of the guys that have that are online coaches that are quote unquote coordinators are not the primary play callers. Like Alex Atkins is Florida State, but Mike Norville, the head coach, is very involved in the offense. Jim Harbaugh was very involved in the offensive Michigan once you're on more of the OC. Just don't see that a whole lot where those guys are the play callers. Right. Exactly. You don't see a ton by cell hold Notre Dame wide receiver will strike out for the rest of the 25 recruiting cycle hard sell. Yeah, they're not going to pick up nobody. I mean, hard sell. I guess it depends on what your definition of of strike out. Like, they're not going to have any way that I can take it as they just don't get anybody. So I'm and I'm selling that. Yeah. For me too. By cell hold Notre Dame offensive line will give up an average of 0.75 sacks a game this year. I'm selling that. I think they'll give up probably more than that a game. Couple reasons why. Number one, that is a really good season. I mean, that less than one again, that's like 10 sacks. I mean, like for the whole season. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, pretty impressive. I mean, noted. Yeah, that that'd be really good. If you I mean, most Harry East and offensive lines gave up 20 a year. Now, the other reason why I think that could be not accurate events is because I just I think when you have a mobile quarterback, you tend to give up more sex. I mean, last year, Vince, only two teams had gave up fewer than 3.0.75 sacks per game. And there was only seven teams that gave up less than one per game. And one of those teams that was less than one was Air Force, a triple option team. So, yeah, I I'm just no, they'll give up. I'm so I would love for that to be the case. You'll be looking at the next Joe Moore award winning offensive line. Oh, yeah. And forget Joe Moore award. You're looking at teams, making them very, very deep running the contour. Correct, which would be great. But I just yeah, that's tough. Yeah. And the army fan by sell hold Notre Dame will have a 3500 passing yard quarterback, a 900 yard receiver, a 1000 yard rusher, a 10 sack defender, and a five interception defender, and two special teams touchdowns. All right. So yes, it is. So I'm going to, if you're if you're talking 12 plus one selling that, they won't have a 1000 yard 900 yard receiver, I don't think in 12 plus one. I don't think they'll have a 10 sack guy in 12 plus one. And if they if we're talking about the entire season and Notre Dame's as good as you and I think they're going to be and they at least make it to the semis and yeah, I'll buy I'll buy that. Because they'll definitely have a 900 yard receiver in a 15 game, 14, 15 game season, I think. Yeah, I do. I think that as well. And yeah, the yards passing will be there. Yeah, I mean, five interceptions. That's a lot. Yeah, it's possible that that I think the the interceptions and the special teams touchdowns are the two hardest ones for me. The reason I would go with that mints is because they have part of this is I try to go with trends. Sure. Right. And they've had a guy with over five each of the last two years. Okay. You had Xavier seven last year and you had Benjamin at 60 year before. I mean, so okay, that one's it's a trend is is that that happens for Notre Dame last couple years. So that one, that's why I'm okay buying that one just because we've seen it. And when you're as good as Notre Dame as in the secondary, it's you can't avoid people. You have to throw somebody, you know what I mean? So right. Gather somebody, but yeah, 10 sack defender, you know, that's that's going to require more than 12, 13 games most likely. Now if we're wrong on that, and this is a buy in the 12 plus one, again, it goes means that our name is really, really good. In my opinion, good. I want to address some real quick. Somebody said, isn't Riley Leonard good at avoiding sacks? Yes, he's good at avoiding sacks. But mobile quarterbacks also run into sacks. That's just the nature of the position and the way that sacks are are determined in college football, you're going to see more, I think that might have been a run. I mean, where as a sack, so like they counted into the sack and said, usually if it's like a designed run, they will, they will kind of look at and say, okay, I was a run, but not always, not always. And again, the last two years, Duke gave up 1.31 sacks per game last two years. It's almost double the number that was part of the premise. And they had a pretty good veteran offensive line. They were okay, run, run game blocking, very good pass game blocking. Insured by big by cell hold. If Notre Dame doesn't win the national championship year, the next reasonable year to win it will be 26 season due to overall team development and possible schedule. So, so I think next year would be the next reasonable year to win it. Yeah. I mean, your offensive line is going to probably possibly return all five starters. Yep. You're going to return your most likely your entire backfield. Correct. Your new starting quarterback is probably going to be a five star and CJ Carr, in my opinion. You're going to still be loaded a tight end. You're going to lose your transfer receivers, but you're going to Jay, Great House comes back, Faison comes back, KK comes back, Kam Williams and Mikey Gilbert going into year two, and then you're going to go to the portal for some more guys. D line is going to suffer some losses. D tackle, but you're going to still get back Rubio. You're going to still get back. Oh, yeah, you're going to get back Heinrich. You're going to get back all the young guys. Yeah. Defensive end, you're going to lose Patello and Open, but you're going to get Burnham back, Treyori back, Bryce Young goes into year two, Logan Thomas goes into year two, should be good there. Secondary is could could be a could you could be hurting there, right? You're going to lose Xavier Watch, you're going to lose Rod Herr, you're going to lose Benjamin Morrison, Jordan Clark. But again, you're going to have Jay and Mickey back. You're going to have Christian Gray back and learn more is going to be going into year two. You're going to be getting Dallas Golden and Mark Zachary and Jay Don Blair and those guys coming back, Bronte Johnson will have a year under his belt. You know, so no, I don't think Notre Dame should look at year at 2025 as a as a year where you're like, Oh, gee, I don't, you know, let's just chalk this up to a rebuilding year insured by big. I'm going to take a little shot at you right now, but it's all in good fun. Okay. And it's not really about you, but I can see you're already adapting to Brian Kelly's excuse making of wait till next year. That was a shot at BK, but my friend, not at you, you know, you know, you're my guy as an LSU fan. But I mean, Notre Dame's schedule in 2020, 2005 won't be easy. They get Texas A&M at home per do at home, Boise at home, USC at home, Navy at home, NC State at home and Syracuse at home. It's a good home slate, but one they should be able to run should be able to run the table on. They play at Arkansas, at BC, at Miami and at Pitt, no add one more game and there will probably be a road game. But again, you, you can go three and one against that schedule and be a playoff team and so compete for a championship, certainly. So no, I don't, and Notre Dame has shown that they go to the Portland get impact players. Yes. You know, so that's just, that's kind of, that's kind of part of it, you know, so tell that. Now, I'm not saying they're gonna win it. I'm just saying you should have reasonable reason saying this is a team that that should should compete for one. Absolutely. Absolutely. We don't do the Brian Kelly wait for four more wait till next year and then when next year come, we're waiting again till next year. And then when just preparing you for this, I've tried to tell LSU fans this for a while. Brian Kelly is the king of wait till next year. I mean, king of it, wait till next year, wait till next year. Oh, we were good this year, but wait till next year. And then when next year comes, it's, we'll wait till next year for some reason, get used to it, my friend. There's not from him by cell hold, you have to replace Andy's schedule this year, which teams schedule would you buy, sell and hold Florida, Oklahoma, or Arkansas. Well, I really want no part of Florida schedule. That's just Florida schedules just brutal and unnecessary. Yeah, it's just it's not even that's a cell from Florida. I don't even know what Oklahoma and Arkansas have. So here's Oklahoma schedule. They play Oklahoma as a tough schedule, but but one, I, you know, it's tough. It's Temple at home Houston at home, Tulane at home, Tennessee at home at Auburn. Okay, I think Notre Dame's five and O against that schedule. Then you got to play Texas and Dallas. It's a tough game. South Carolina at home at Ole Miss tough game, main at home, at Missouri tough game, but no name should win. Home against Bama be tough, but you know, again, you're at home and then at LSU should be tough. So Oklahoma's is tough. I don't think it's as tough as Florida's. And then let's go to Arkansas. Let's see what Arkansas schedule is this year, Vince. The old Razorbacks give me a sec because it used to be you could just kind of click on an SEC West team and then they would pull up, but they don't play those anymore. So Arkansas this year plays you a you Arkansas Pine Bluff at Oklahoma State, home against UAB at Auburn, Texas A&M in Dallas, Tennessee, LSU at home, Tennessee at home at Mississippi State, home against Ole Miss, home against Texas, home against Louisiana Tech or Louisiana. Yeah. And then at Missouri, I'd rather take Arkansas. I take Arkansas all day because you get, you get those teams at home, you get Ole Miss, you get Texas and you get LSU all at home. You get Tennessee at home. Your toughest road games are at Missouri and at Oklahoma State, which aren't easy, but games you should win, and then you get Texas A&M on a neutral field. So for Notre Dame, that game at least is a net positive because you actually go from having to play them at their place to get them on neutral field. It's still in Texas, but it's not at Kyle Field. So yeah, I think they're all challenging. I'd take Arkansas schedule 100%. Absolutely. I take Arkansas by Oklahoma as a whole, Florida as a cell. Yeah, that's fair. Very fair. By cell hold, being in the SEC makes it easier to recruit some high-end recruits based on the presumption of it having a lot of elite talent and the number of players drafted the NFL every year. I'm selling that because I don't think that's the primary driver. At the end of the day, primary driver's location, location, location. Most of the top players in the south and most a lot of them choose to stay closer to home. So closer to home thing is legit. I have no problem with that. The reality is, no, do those other things help? Sure. But it's really about staying closer to home. I mean, there's SEC teams that recruit well every year that don't put a lot of guys in the NFL and don't win a lot of games, but they recruit well, why? Because they're getting a bunch of kids that are from down the street. Right. Exactly. So I think, I think location is the primary driver. Those other things don't, don't hurt, but it's the primary driver. You know, of that location's key. Salty Virginia peanuts. By cell hold measured against all ACC teams, Notre Dame's wide receivers will have the most reception yards and touchdowns. That's a lot of teams to go through. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm just pulling this up real quick. I'm, let me just pull up the ACC stats from last year because I'm probably going to sell this one. So let's see here, North Carolina 30. Well, there weren't a lot of ACC teams that threw the ball bunch last year, also the events. Florence, North Carolina had the most of 38, not 89. That was a Drake May. Okay. Then Florida State was next at 35 19. Notre Dame would have ranked fifth in the ACC and passing yards last year. So let's see where was Notre Dame? They were at 3205 for the season, so they would have ranked fifth right behind North Carolina was a 299 North. Let's just go total yards. Florence, North Carolina was at 3889. Florence, eight was at 35 19. They played 14 games one more game than Notre Dame. They only averaged six, five more yards per game passing than Notre Dame did. Miami was at 3354 Louisville was at 3313. Notre Dame actually averaged more yards per game than Louisville. Louisville had more yards because they played one more game than Notre Dame would have been fifth. So if you look at yards per game, Notre Dame would have been fifth as well. They would have been ahead of Louisville, but they would have been behind Virginia and only played 12 games. So you look at passing touchdowns Vince last year, not a single ACC team last year had over 30 had 30 touchdown passes. So I'll sell the yards. I'll buy the touchdowns and part of the reason I'm going to sell the yards to Vince is because of what we talked about the beginning of the show. There's going to be a lot more yards going to tight ends and receipt and running backs this year than just than other teams, which even if Notre Dame's number one in passing yards as an offense, they may not be number one in yards that are going to the receivers. Gotcha. Because of the production, they're going to get it running back and tight end in the pass game. So there you go. Okay, buy, sell hold among Notre Dame wide receivers. It's a great one. We'll lead the group in both touchdowns and reception. I feel like we've gotten this one before and I bought it last time and I'm buying it this time. Yep. So I am going to sell it. Someone will bypass him in one or the other. Okay, interesting. That's where I'm at. Call me. It's the last one by the way, Vince. Okay, call me tie by sell hold. Notre Dame football should make major changes to make the game day environment better. For example, allowing alcohol sales, new ticket sales, protocols to get more locals and younger people to the game. Okay, first of all, I buy the premise of they should do things to make game day environment better. I do not accept at all that alcohol. Look, here's my thing. If you have to drink alcohol to have fun, you have a drinking problem. I'm being serious. If you can't have a good time without drinking alcohol, you have a drinking problem. I'm serious. Talk to somebody about that. That doesn't mean you can't drink and have a good time. If that's your choice, do whatever. But if you can't do it, you're not going to Notre Dame games because they don't sell alcohol. That's a problem. You can't have a good time without alcohol. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm saying. So I'm going to push back on that. I think it's lazy and sell alcohol, get people drunk. Okay, whatever. That's not my thing. But are there other things they can do to make it better? Yeah, there's definitely things they could do to make it better. Don't make it so hard for people to have to park really freaking far away from the stadium. Don't make it so expensive to park. I mean, you get all the people that pay a crap load of money to be right by the stadium. Okay, well, tailgates may not be as great. You know? So, I mean, there's a lot of different things to me that could make game day better. The other thing too is, is I think a lot of people go to game day and they don't even realize all the cool stuff happening on campus at Notre Dame. There's a lot of cool, but you only stay over by where the tailgate is. But part of that means is I'm parked miles away from the stadium. And so we're not going to go there because we're tailgating over here. So we're not going to go there until we get closer to the game. You're not going to see as much stuff. But I actually think Notre Dame's game day environment's pretty cool. Yeah, like, I think it's, no, maybe not be so strict on certain tailgate things. Okay, fine, whatever. But I think the biggest thing is that is the ticket sales because you get more locals to show up and do those types of things. But that's been the biggest issue. But that's, that's true for in, in, you know, that maybe you'll get more tailgate stuff. But the other risk is if you, if you have more people from local, you may have a bigger audience that actually just shows up for the game and doesn't stay there to tailgate. You know, like it could go either way. I tend to think when it's, when it's a lot more locals, there's more tailgating, I think, than when people have to come from far away. Oh, yeah. Because it's easier for me to get, you know, like, it's easier for me to get a grill. Like, I have a buddy of mine who does a tailgate, but he always buys the food and just brings it. And sure. You know, where, where it's easier for me to bring a grill if I chose to do so. Because, you know, or, or my mom will cook stuff and she'll have it with the, the gas and all that because she can just take it home after the game. Right. Where my buddy's flying in from Texas or Georgia or wherever he's, you know, staying from at the time. And so it's a little harder for him to, like, tailgate, like the way that we talk about tailgate, which is like, he has to rent and buy everything. We can just bring our own stuff. So I think that would make, I think that could, could, could, would, would likely help Notre Dame is if they did that. But the problem at Notre Dame is it's not just expensive to get a ticket. It's expensive to park anywhere close enough to the stadium where you're going to want to tailgate and have fun. You know, because it's like, if you're doing the shuttle thing, I hope I get on the next one, I want to miss kickoff. Now that I can't blame Notre Dame for because it's just limited campus. There's only so many so much room to have on people on campus. I understand that. But it's just like, but you don't have as much cool tailgating going on on campus. Like, there's not as many tailgates, at least I don't see as many tailgates right by the stadium as you see right by the stadium in other places. And now you're talking about the number, because again, Notre Dame has a smaller parking lot than some others. And there's some different things that that factor in its smaller campus. And I get all that. What I'm saying, however, is if it was a little bit easier for just normal folks to kind of get into the stadium closer by, you'd see a lot more tailgating going on. Yeah. Because a lot of tailgates that happen now close by are just like, it's like invite only. You know, it's like our crew or whatever. So I just, that's kind of where I'm at. That's where I'm at. So, but yeah, the alcohol thing is like, if you've got to get people drunk to have a good time, to have a better environment, then your environment sucks. And you have to get people off of their, you know, out of their senses to have a good time. You know what I mean? Like, I just, I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't support that. I don't support that at all. And the only reason to sell alcohol is the game is because you're just trying to make more money. Bingo. That's it. That's it. It doesn't make the environment better in my, in my, in my, I think it makes it worse. Like there's certain campuses I won't go to because I've just have heard like, dude, it's not the drunk idiots and you probably going to get in a fight on your way stadium. That's why I don't, that's one of the reasons I go to NFL games. I mean, some of the stories I hear about all the fights and brawls because people just get so incredibly drunk. Like, why would you pay a hundred dollars to watch a game and you're not going to remember tomorrow? You know, like, I just don't understand that. I, I just, I don't get that. I just, if you, I'll just, it's like the thing, oh, you know, you're going to college to, to, to sow your wild oats and, and no, that's not what college is supposed to be. College was never meant to be this thing where you go party for four years and get out all your fun before you become a grownup. College used to be is now you're a grownup. Go to college. You know what I mean? And it's like, we've lost this thing where we've just condoned like just being an idiot. And I'm not saying someone getting drunk is, is wrong from a, a social standpoint. I don't think they're saying wrong. I have certain, you know, religious views on it, but that's a different conversation, right? I'm sucking society. I don't have a problem with people going to tailgate and having a few too many beers and getting light. But that's okay. If that's what you like to do. What I'm saying is, but the people that need certain things to, to have a good time, that's where I have a problem. Or it's socially, like, I caught more crap. I can't tell how much crap I caught in college because I didn't drink. I don't respect my decision. I got, I got blasted for it all the time. I had people telling me I wasn't a good teammate because I didn't go drink at parties. I'd go to the party events, but I wouldn't drink. Oh, you think you're better than us? No, that's a you problem. I don't think I'm better than you. I'm making a choice for me. You make a choice for you. You do you. I'll do me. But I caught a lot more crap from people that drank than, you know, because it's like, it's what you're supposed to do. Well, you know me well enough to do no events. Even if I liked alcohol, I'd still probably wouldn't drink because I don't like to do what everybody tells me I'm supposed to do. You know, and so that's kind of my thing. I just, I just think, I have too many followers and too many things where we just said, well, this is how it's supposed to be. Okay, well, whatever. I know, I just don't think you need to do that. And if you do have to do that, I would tell you to seek some help. And I'm not things sarcastic. I'm not joking. If you can't go to a football game and have a good time without alcohol, you need to see someone about that because you have a drinking problem. And I'm not, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm not being judgmental. I'm saying that out of concern for you, truly. Does that make sense, Vince? Are you getting the difference? I'm saying, I'm not saying if you go to games and you'd like to drink, that's a problem. I'm not saying that. Right. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying, if you have a need where you cannot enjoy yourself without it. No, that's a problem. That's what I'm saying. I don't have an issue. If you're trying, okay, Notre Dame shouldn't be making changes to make more money, okay? Notre Dame has plenty of money. So I'll say that. Let me get that out of there. But I will say, there are other schools that are looking for another revenue stream who need to make more money. And if they want to add alcohol, I get it. That's a way to make more money. I don't have a problem with that. I really don't. There was a school that we went to that's trying to move up from a division to another division. And so they decided to start selling alcohol so they could make some more money so they can improve some of their facilities so that they can have facilities that are, you know, apropos with the division that they want to move up to. I don't have a problem with that. I really don't. It's a revenue stream. I do have a problem with people thinking that they have to have alcohol and they're going to have a good time. Like this, you know, the question right here is saying to make the environment better, you have to sell alcohol. No, you don't. Well, you kind of do, which is the problem. Well, that's a problem. Like our tailgates, we don't we don't provide alcohol at our tailgates. Correct. Because I just feel since I don't drink and you don't drink, it really is not appropriate for us to then provide alcohol. It's just a choice to make. We don't tell other people they can't bring it to our tailgate. Sure. Yeah. You want to show up and bring some beers and you have a cooler of your beers that you and your friends will have at our tailgate. Go for it. Cool. Cool. Right. So again, it's not judging that because again, I'm looking at this from a societal worldly standpoint, not from you if you asked me my religious view of it, we'd have a different conversation, but that's not what I'm judging other people by. That's how I judge myself by, right? I judge myself by my religious standards. My point is this though is like, if you if you guys bring alcohol to our and one time we did, we brought that twisted tea. Remember that? That's alcohol. Yeah. Right. So we did bring that that one time. It's just more of a, Hey, you know, you when you do you, that's the thing. But like, when you're when you're promoting it to where you're saying you can't have a good time without that or you need that to have a good time. I, yeah. How do and what does that do with the game day environment? Isn't the when I think game day environment, I think everything outside the stadium. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know. That's just, it's just weird. And by the way, the twisted tea thing, we were given that as a promo. Yeah. That's why we brought it because I hadn't went in my house. So we're just like, Hey, anybody want this? Take it with you if you want. It wasn't something that that we like, Hey, let's go buy some tools to do. I didn't pay a cent for that. Well, I did. I guess I paid for the ice. So pay a little bit for it. It's nice of you to ice it down. Yeah. All right. Well, that is going to do it for today's version. I hated that we ended the show that way. I wish we had like another football topic or something like that's okay. That's okay. That's going to do it for this version of the buy sell whole day on a Wednesday. Thanks for hanging out with us. Really appreciate you guys always, always make sure you hit the like button, the subscribe button, hit that notification bell, share with your family and friends. Of course, stick around because in about 28 minutes or so, Sean and I are going to be back with IB nation sports talk. We got some really fun rapid fire questions coming your way. We're going to talk about jerseys. We're going to talk about all kinds of stuff. So make sure you stick around, you know, go get a sandwich. Oh, we got it. So we do get to end the show with a non alcohol conversation. Here we go. Andy Milton fan. Thank you so much for the super chat on the current roster and will black. All offensive linemen are at their ceiling. What is your starting five? Not a buy sellhold though. It could be fun. Hashtag sell BK. Yeah, I'm about that selling BK. So everyone reaches their potential. My starting five. So current roster plus will black. My starting five is Charles Jagasol, Gerby Lambert, Emil Wagner, Billy Schrauth, and Sullivan Abscher. So teaching one of those guys to snap. I think with Will Black is, I've said this before, I've got a, I've got a see film, more film. Like I know he's blown up, he's a five star, but I haven't seen that kind of film from him yet. I got to see more film. Plus he's going to be a lot younger than those guys. You know, but he says everybody reaches their ceiling. Again, I got to see Will Black. So Will Black to me is kind of not in the conversation because I haven't seen senior film. And I don't really have much junior film of me either. So that would be my start. Some version of that would be my starting five. Got to like you said, teach somebody snap. Okay, right. Because if we're going with the fantasy land, everyone's reached their ceiling at the whatever age they are. So Will Black is a true freshman has reached his ceiling compared to Charles Jagasau, who then would be a true junior. Okay, if we're going to live in that fantasy land, then I can teach someone I've snapped, right? So I can teach Billy Shrath how to snap. He did it in an all star game. I think Billy Shrath could be a really good center if you needed him to, in my opinion, a really good center. But that's, that's where I'd be. So there you go. You agree? Sure. I'm not playing around with ceilings and whatnot. I play in the now. All right. Sure. Whatever, dude. To whatever you said. I agree. Buy me two of those. All right. So thanks, everybody, for hanging out with us for buy, sell, hold, and for another Wednesday show again. Five o'clock, we got IB nation sports talk, boards on iris breakdown.com. If you want to be a part of the buy, sell, hold, you got to be a member of the board. You got to submit your question over at the premium message board. It's a lot of fun over there, folks. And a very interesting topic is being discussed right now. 105 scholarships. Sit on that. Yeah. That's going to be interesting. Yeah. And it's very curious what that that's going to mean. Well, for a lot of different things. Me too. And they're increasing scholarships across the board and all sports, which I think is very interesting. But that's it. Well, I'm sure we'll discuss it. But I, all I can say is Daddy's hoping for a scholarship. So for Brian, I'm Vince. We'll talk to you next time on the Irish Breakdown podcast. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
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