(upbeat music) - Welcome to Drinking Bros. Presented by GoSpent.com. (upbeat music) Sit back, relax, and grab a fucking drink. - Drink, drink, drink. - Yeah, welcome to Drinking Bros, kids. - It's got a big Tuesday show for you today. If you're in the state of Michigan, congratulations, it's the GOP primaries today, and you get to go out there and cast your vote for Nikki Haley if she's surging. She's surging in the polls. - Or whatever the opposite of that is. She's not gonna get out of there until next week. - No, she's probably got some dudes to fuck. - Sure does, Headboard Haley. - Headboard Haley, that's-- - I like that. - Is that the name for her? - That's what I've been talking about. - It was Dan coined it, and I liked it. We're gonna make it a thing here. Headboard Haley will be banged out of the race by next Wednesday. - Took on 12 dudes and won. - Well, she didn't win. - The headlines from the fringe news places have been pretty funny, so yesterday, Americans for Prosperity, as I said, the Koch brothers org pulled out, and that was the line. The Koch brothers pack pulls out of Nikki Haley, which I don't think anybody's ever pulled out of her. - Wow, wow, do they do that on purpose? - They definitely did on purpose, yeah. But then, part of me thinks it's just that we're in a simulation, right? Because she said 12 dudes down, one to go. - She sure did. Wait, no. - Those are her actual words. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. - She went score sure today. She said nominating Trump would be suicide for our country. - Yeah, remember how it was in 2016 when the economy was good? - Yeah. - Felt very suicidal for our country. - God damn it, man. - The Middle East peace deals that we signed, that felt pretty bad to you. - Yeah, it's all going to hell right now. We got Josh Castell on the show today, entrepreneur of many, many companies gonna have you about an inch from the mic there. So, we can bring it to you, by the way. - I always forget how these things work. - Yeah, it's weird. - That's crazy, it's crazy. - Wake up, Josh, you're an entrepreneur, right? - Just took some cute-- - This is the cute-- - I'll be waking up shortly. - Best in the biz over here, but with that, no, we wanted to have you on the show today. I wanted to talk about the death of the electric vehicles. So, Apple just canceled all their plans for an electric car. - Yeah, and Mercedes canceled their plans to go full electric by 2030. - It sure did. - On Saturday. - Within the last 48 hours, this has happened here. About a month ago, Hertz said 30% of their electric fleets was being cut as well. In your opinion, what was the downfall for this industry? - I mean, it's one giant bamboozle, isn't it? As far as I understand, it's just been built on a bunch of disingenuous sort of assurances, right? Like, the shit's not better for the environment. It's just as destructive, like, you know, while we're not, the emissions aren't the same, the refinement and production of the lithium batteries and all that, like-- - Cobalt, yeah, generates an exorbitant amount of pollution. I was reading something the other day that was kind of crazy, something you would never contemplate. Supposedly, like, some major percentage of all the microplastics or micro, whatever, in the ocean, in the pollution, is actually caused from brake dust, that something you would never think about, all that brake dust being generated. What do electric cars have far more in spades than traditional combustion engines? They've got that immediate torque to every wheel. So it's like, I forget what the number is, but it's very disproportionate. Breaking an electric vehicle generates ex amount, whatever it was, more brake dust than a traditional combustion engine. - So we should just make bumper cars for a sand. - But the whole premise of it being like an environmentally friendly thing is nonsense. - Oh yeah, that is fake. - That was completely fake. And our buddy Alex Epstein talks about that all the time. - Yeah, he does. By the way, I've got three bumper cars in my house. If you want to come over and get in one, and go against the kids, I'm not kidding you. - No, I mean, you remember Demolition Man where a homeboy gets at a wreck and it fills it with foam? Why, we haven't thought of anything better than just a fucking seatbelt and airbags that crack your ribs in face. That's the best we can do, really. - I mean, if we're going to that movie for inspiration, I want to see the three seashells before we see anything else. - What's most important? - Explain to me how they work. I asked Rob Schneider, I have no idea. - Yes, nobody knows how the three seashells work. - But the bumper car things, by the way, they shrunk them down. So they're not like the huge ones at a fair or anything. They shrunk them down for kids. - I'll ruin your kid's lives. - They're awesome. They ride them all day and they still come with the music, the fun flirty music that goes with them. But Apple, this has been a decade long effort here. So I remember seeing this thing in LA when they were first testing them out for Apple and what they were going to be. And they had like a fun little wrap over it so you couldn't see what the actual shape and model of the car was going to be. They spent billions of dollars on this and now they just yanked it. So they're saying over 2,000 employees have been working on this project. And I wonder if they're going to be bounced as well on this. I have a different theory on the electric car. And I think it's that they came out of the gateway too soon and they weren't ready to mass produce all these goddamn things. - Not just ready to mass produce. They're not ready to facilitate them. Once they're beyond production and the distribution, they can't facilitate that, right? Only 6% of our vehicle production is electric vehicles so they can't produce enough, right? - Yeah. - And that's for a variety of reasons but mostly cobalt and lithium. And then once they are-- - By the way, who are the sources of that stuff? - So who do we end up? - Well, but as I understand-- - What's China and Russia? - Exactly, yeah. - Like our mortal enemies that are actively working against us control that entire supply chain of railroad minerals. So what are we doing playing into that? - Well, they do and they don't. I mean, they're available in South America too. We just haven't made any kind of fucking effort to really capitalize on that, which we should have. We should go back to Monroe Doctrine, you know, North and South American, heads of many. But anyways, once they get onto the street, we saw in Chicago, not too long ago, even in a major city, there's a limited amount of charging space, right? And the charging space is 100% susceptible to the elements still, right? Like, I can't think of very many natural disasters that would wipe out oil, gasoline, right? Like, what would you do that? - 'Cause it could be-- - A hurricane, but not in the middle of it. - But only there. - But not the supply. - And not taking it out of the ground. - Correct. - So it's like, it's not ready for prime time. - Yeah. - That's just how it is, man. - No, but if you look back on this, this is my personal opinion. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this. - Yes. - If these cars were ready to go at the time, 'cause it was right around 2020, it was when this started really getting big, and every fucking company was, we got commercials for it, and we're coming, and they're still not coming, for a lot of these fucking things. If they would have had them ready, roll them out immediately, and let's say 2020, and everybody was ready to rock in these goddamn things. If they were purchased by Americans, it would have forced the government into opening up these charging stations and everywhere else. And then catching up with the technology, but what happened was they weren't ready by the time that a few of our friends had 'em and started bitching about 'em. No charging stations popped up because there wasn't enough cars on the road, and therefore the government didn't really feel pressed into it. If it was like a Y2K-sitch, where it was just like, "Hey, the world's gonna end tomorrow "if we don't get these goddamn charging stations up," I think they could have succeeded, but they didn't because none of this was ready for it, but everybody was pumping out commercials, getting dicks hard. - Oh, yeah. - And now we don't want these goddamn stations. - Well, they should have treated it like a drug dealer. They should have dramatically reduced the price of the end-user vehicle, right? That way the government has to step in and build the infrastructure for you, 'cause right now, the only solution out of this right now, 'cause the government invested a lot during the Obama administration and fucking renewable energy, not one of those companies still exists in any meaningful way, by the way. You remember Cylindra, right when out in Central Coast, California, there was just like a total, like $80 billion is evaporated out there somehow. - It was not, dude. - But if, and Tesla did this, by the way, Elon did this. He put his patent for the battery out on the internet for this specific reason. The more demand for it, there is. The more everybody has to play ball. That's just the way it is, right? But nobody other than Tesla has made a commitment like that. As a matter of fact, Mercedes and now Apple are pulling out entirely. - Yes. - Because what, for what? Apple's got the money. What is their market cap, like $27 trillion or some bullshit like that? - They're the richest company on the most vertical. - Their valuation is insane. They can afford to give, let's say, 10% of the US population is give them a fucking electric car here, you take it. And then pay us a service for our charging stations and use the revenue from that service to build charging stations everywhere. And then they would own electric vehicles. They would own it forever. And then they would go from 27 trillion valuation to like $500 trillion valuation in what, five years? Maybe something like that. But nobody's got the stones to do it, which makes me think there's probably still some fossil fuel lobbying going on, right? - Just a bit. - Behind the scenes? - Yeah, but I mean, there's also, I mean-- - The Koch brothers are to sorrel, like the big refineries in America, to sorrel. The Koch brothers own that. America's for prosperity is the biggest lobbying group in the country. - Yeah, but it also, I mean, it's a farce, right? So there was something in the news, I forget what it is. Is it these hydrogen cells? I think that's what it is. - Oh yeah, they talked about that back in the, even in the 90s. - But they're talking about it again now with like, rude vigor, where like this shit, in contrast to the electric vehicle stuff, this actually works. - Yeah, hydrogen. - They just pulled it off. I don't know if it was Toyota or Hyundai. Somebody just is demoing a vehicle now that is truly clean. - The hydrogen cell, the emission is water. It's old water. That's the only thing it puts out. - I've heard about it. Is anybody actually done it yet physically? - Yes, well, Toyota and I think Hyundai have done it. They're demoing it right now. - Oh, they're demoing, but they're not out. - No, they're not in production. But they're saying, and I think if I'm not mistaken, fact checkers, fact check, it was Toyota in a similar capacity that abandoned electric as their long-term vision, and it's this. I think it's the hydrogen cell that they now have formally adopted as what their long-term plan is for weaning off of combustible engines. - Okay. - So I think that in general, you know, the technology is not, it's not what they promised us it would be. It's not this silver bullet that's gonna fix the earth, right? Just because we all buy Teslas. It's just, that's a complete and utter farce. - And the earth is fine anyways. - Yeah, the earth is fine. I think for me, and I'll go back maybe 15 years, I'm gonna go back to the Prius, that's a Toyota Prius. We, obviously it's endless jokes about, you know, liberals and Priuses and all that other shit. I drove one, got to drive one for a few months, and it was fucking awesome. I filled up once a month, $20 in this goddamn thing. I could drive, and I was in Los Angeles. I was in traffic every single day, all day long. Still only filled this fucking thing up once a month, and it was rad, it looked like shit. - Which they fixed now, by the way. - I've seen the new Prius, and that's why I brought it up. I just saw it on the way into the office, and I was like, "Yo, dude, I'm in, I'm in." And I think if you would've guessed all of those out at the same time as well, that could've cut back on all this other fucking bullshit. Why aren't they doing more hybrid versions of cars that are out there to save on gas and everything else? - Well, I think every major car company has a hybrid, multiple available. - Yeah, and every classification of vehicle from hypercar all the way down to family. - But they haven't mastered the gas mileage like a fucking Prius, for some reason. Like, I try to get one in the Tahoe version, right? 'Cause they have one, but you still can't get the miles you want, and then the price is jacked up like fucking roof, but this is the only reasonably priced, unbelievably gas mileage vehicle that you could possibly have here. And the new ones look great. - The hybrids on the CRV, so hybrid SUV basically, kind of 43 city, 36 highway. - Pop it up on a bigger picture of this, Bob, 'cause I have seen a lot of CRVs out there recently. And is this why? 'Cause if so, that makes sense why I'm seeing these fucking things. Yes, is that it? - Yeah, oh, I see a shit ton of these things. - But hybrids are still smart by. They're not, and then I hate us to look at. - Yeah, these aren't bad at all. - As of December, hybrids are still only 8.3% of US car sales. - Yeah. - And then another 6% I think are full last year. So you're talking about 15% for the take? - Yeah, at the end of the day, we love our combustion engines, I do. Like, have you, do you guys, neither of you own Teslas, right? - But you've driven them. - No, I like women. - Yeah, so I've driven in Tesla, and I will see this. I loved it for what it was, but, you know, and I'll go back to this example, I said it a few times in the show. We were in Wilmington, Dan and I were in Wilmington, so I was going at a gig in Raleigh, and it was Wilmington and Raleigh, which is only two hours. One road, straight shots, wasn't enough charge to get his home. So we had to stop in a shopping mall, get dinner, it was before a concert. Get dinner, just so we could charge the fucking car to get home on the way afterwards. So like, yes, you're saving on gas, I guess, but I still had to pay for this fucking dinner, which was $150, and then sit at a restaurant for an hour and a half while the fucking car charged, and then I went to the concert, and then I went home and everything. It was a pain in the ass, so I never bought one. - I mean, even beyond that, like as a driver, it sucks, right? It's the most for me, and it's very polarizing. People who love these things, the utilitarian nature of them, or you hate it. I hate it. - I didn't drive though. - But you saw the-- - It drove itself all the way to the venue. - So, but you sat in it? - I did. - Have you ever seen a more sterile, characterless interior than is on a Tesla? - It is no soul. It has no, like, you know, I like a car. - Well, on a Tesla car, right? - Yeah, and that's what it feels like, where it's just like a, the inside of a Tesla feels like a place from A to B, for me, where it's almost public transportation of, hey, dude, if I got a cab, this would be the nicest cab I ever got in, and I'm fine with that. Like, I don't, I'm not a big car guy, so I don't need all the shit in there. - Sure, but when you look at those market statistics, I don't think the, like, there's a segment of the market that is you, that's transportation is utilitarian, whatever, and there's, I think, a far larger segment of the American market, that's not that, that, like, they enjoy cars, they appreciate cars on multiple levels, right? It's not just utilitarian point A to point B. And if that is you, if you're in that camp, I can think of few less stimuli, even with the speed, even in a plaid with the immediate torque and immediate power, that's thrilling, but it wears off pretty quickly, and you'd rather be in a slower car with a cacophony of sounds, right? That a V8 makes, with all of the, you know, the feeling of, like, this is a car, like somebody designed this interior, took pride in it. A Tesla's not that. A Tesla is a public transportation. - There's something dystopian about how quiet it is. - Well, didn't they, they added in, simulated engine sounds, simply because of this problem? - These fucking digital cameras don't have a real shutter on them. It's digital, but they make that noise because people's brains couldn't handle the camera not making that fucking noise. - Well, yeah, you want to hear it, yeah. - That is artificial. - It's the same loaders. - The noise it makes, the noise your phone makes when you take a picture, that's not anything. That's a byproduct, that's not even a byproduct. That's a fucking addition. - It makes you feel safe that something happened and you captured it on a camera. - You feel connected to that, and the camera wore the car. You feel connected to it. You know, whereas the Tesla is just, again, like for me, and I'm a fan of Elon, right, and all that he does and his brilliance, but as a car, I just don't. It will never be something that I would purchase. - Well, from my, I'm a utilitarian, so I don't give a fuck what it looks like necessarily, but what I do care about is if shit goes sideways, that Tesla is a fucking paperweight. - Yeah. - That's nothing anymore. - Yeah, right. - Like it, 'cause the battery costs 25,000 bucks. So unless I'm driving around with a secondary battery strapped to the fucking roof of that thing, right, and then some means of getting it into the car afterwards, if shit goes sideways and I no longer have access to electricity, that thing is useless. - Yep. - But I can fucking raid gas stations. Oh, I can store gasoline, if I want, right? So it's like for me, these days, like right now, the where we are in our country right now, I'm not, that's one convenience that's too far for me. - No, and look, I understand it's-- - But they are better. I know the brake thing is fucked, but just about efficiency, generally speaking, because of the physics of that vehicle, it will always be better than a combustion engine. There's no way a combustion engine could ever compete with it, frankly. - In terms of what? - Torque. - Well, yeah. - Right? - Yeah. - But, you know, I don't know, maybe they'll put a fucking loud, rumbly engine in there. Like a sound. - Great, you know, I thought they did, or maybe that's the Taycan, the Porsche? - Yeah, I think it's okay. - Most definitely did it. - Because it was so bizarre for their customers to not have any sort of portable sound in the car. - When you buy a fucking luxury V8 or V10 style vehicle, you want to hear it sound like something, right? - I like that, I appreciate that motor. - I don't get people who just buy crazy expensive sports cars. I just don't understand the car. Are you one of those guys? - I don't think I am. My taste, I'm lucky in the sense that my taste, what up, my aspirations come from being a kid. And so like, my aspirations growing up, were like watching James Bond drive cars. And so, Aston Martin's are not, it's not exactly the same thing as buying like Ferraris, right? - Yeah, they're not that expensive really. - I mean, Aston Martin is like-- - I don't know if there's like 150, 150, 150 Ks, I'm like that. - If you go for like a brand new DBS, yes, you'll spend Ferrari money. But like for me, to get the car that Daniel Craig drove in Casino Royale, right? Which is like just what my dream would be. Getting that used second hand on this used market, like $96,000. Like a lot of money, but not, it's not really, when you're, it's not in the rarefied stratosphere of when you're talking about crazy expensive cars. When you're talking about Bugatti and Pagani and all that stuff, it's not, I didn't have to, you know, Ferrari, you have to like get on a wait list. You have to buy three cars from your local dealer that you don't really want that are like the stair, the entry levels that before they'll even let you get an invitation to buy the car is the special car. - No shit off. - Oh yeah, that's, for me, how that culture works. I'm not into any of that. - If somebody said that to me, I would immediately pull my pants down and take a shit on the hood of one of those cars. Like I'll fucking burn this place to the ground and write you a check, bitch. Don't ever say something like that to me. You're getting a cut to do a little bit. Not too bad that he's gonna fucking die, but cutting a little bit, yeah. - Just nick him up a little bit. - Not an artery, it'll be all capillary bleeding. - Yeah, it's like I get excited about cars. It's not about the cost of the car. Like I fucking wanna get my hands on a Suzuki Samurai and do a Resto Mod on that as a fun little project. It's, you know, and that car's worth less than your shirt. It's not about the money, it's just I like cars. I'm a car head. - Gotcha. Is that a column car heads? - I think they're column petrol heads, but I'm not British, so. - Well, I like petrol heads a lot. I don't like what you just said, car heads. - Car heads, that sounds like something else. - Yeah, it sure does, and I can't really get behind us. But with this, does everybody else then start pulling these fucking vehicles and then how much money these stocks gonna lose? - You see that, I mean, it's human psychology to some degree, right? You see it in NFL fucking fantasy drafts. Way too early, somebody will start drafting tight ends and then six tight ends will come off the board 'cause people are fucking, they panic. They mimic other people's, but hey, well, I don't wanna be the last asshole. It's fear-based, right? I mean, that's a lot of people behave that way, especially in American business. - Well, if you're talking about publicly traded companies, I mean, you know, everything. - They just copy each other all the time. - Yeah, fueled by speculative panic, right? So I think you're gonna see that. I think the writing is on the wall that major corporate, I mean, again, if you're talking about Toyota, making this change and focusing on a different technology, how does the rest of the market not follow? - Well, and then Apple, again, richest company in the history of the world, right? - And they just gave up. I mean, they said, "Hey, I should tell you all," you need to know. They were like, "Nah, we're good, bro." - We're better off just taking a straight L loss on this, writing it all wild. - I do, that's so much money. I know, like, the local dealerships around here, they're slashing prices on these EV vehicles. One was that lightning. I think it was, is that Ford, Bob? Was that the Silverado, a Chevy, Silverado? Yeah. - Yeah, they were the lightning. - The lightning is the one that kept blowing up, right? - I think. - A couple of years ago? - I think so. - The F-150 Lightning? - I mean, so they're slashing prices on all these things. - Well, one of the-- - They're trying to-- - One of the backup batteries in one of the hybrids was blowing up. - Well, look, Tesla's going through their share of lawsuits. It's right now for all these things that are blowing up. So-- - I mean, didn't they literally issue a recall on every vehicle? - Oh, yeah. - It was a software recall. - But it was still, so to your point, like, talking about how maybe something should be dumb. Not everything that we do in the vehicle should be smart. That software recall results in the same net effective outcome. All the cars got to get taken back in service now, like-- - Well, maybe you can-- - That's how when you let software run a car-- - You should be able to do it over the internet, right? - I don't know the details of what they did. Was that the recall? Just make sure you do an update. - But it's called a recall, right? Because the company, because of consumer laws, has to issue that, right? But they've had major recalls, like physical recalls before, too. But so is like a lot of companies have, to be honest. But usually it's not because the car is exploding. - Yeah, I'm still-- - I'm not aware of the example you cite where there were literally exploding batteries. - Oh, yeah. - Oh, yeah, I don't know if Tesla specifically-- - It was Tesla. They just got sued-- - That's bonkers. - So if Honda's did, I can't remember which one that was, and I think one of the trucks as well. I don't know if it was the lightning or something else. - So I mean, I don't claim to understand the science behind it all, but you're telling me, isn't hydrogen the basis for an A-bomb? - I think so. - And so we're doing some hydrogen cells-- - Yeah, not the original-- - The original town bomb, yeah. - For an H-bomb, forever. - Yeah, watch hop and hammer, I got it. But now you're talking about using hydrogen cells to power vehicles? I don't claim to understand what's happening there, but I think we should look into it a little bit. - Well, no, it's way different. So an atomic H-bomb, you're splitting the hydrogen atom. - Yeah. - Right, they're not doing that in a fucking Tesla battery approach. - Is that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - They're not doing that. - No, it would require more energy to split that thing that it takes to drive the God the Enquire in the first place. No, it's not it. They're converting, they're converting hydrogen molecules into water, yeah, water molecules into hydrogen molecules, basically, right? - And that's generating enough-- - It generates some energy output. - Yeah. - Are you sure about this, Daniel? - Yes, okay, all right, I'm convinced. - That's why the emission is just water, right? - Yeah. - So I mean, if that's real, and they really can do this, how do you beat that? How do you beat that? - Well, you can't beat it, because hydrogen is the most abundant thing in the entire universe. - So why would we keep the whole one? - It's the shit out of the ground, in mass. - Well, there's too much money behind the scenes. - Well, here's the thing though. So to your point from before, people thought that renewable energy was gonna stop having to pull shit out of the ground. But in reality, we just had to pour more shit out of the ground from more different places. So now, instead of just praying on the Middle East, we're praying on Africa, the Middle East, and South America, right? So all this hedge of money, and micro wars, and cold wars, and all this shit, and fucking superpower control over these places is gonna get worse, as time goes on. It has to. - And I'm excited about it. - Russia and China talk about being friends right now, but they get in hot conflicts in Africa over mining rights all the time. - Oh yeah, yeah. - That's primarily what the Wagner group does, is fucking crude's around Africa, and try to fight Chinese people. - Which is awesome. - Yeah, should they be our friends? - Who? - The folks doing that? - Russia, yeah. I think Russia should be a NATO. - I should. - I'm not even kidding. - That was the biggest revelation of the Tucker thing for me. - I was talking to somebody about this the other day. I was like, we should call their bluff since Putin wanted to run his little fucking five foot eight suck hole over there. Call their bluff and invite them to NATO right now. - Yeah, you think that was a bluff? You didn't think that was genuine? - I don't think you could do it during the war. - I don't think anything that a KGB kirtle says is genuine. - I don't know, I believe in a man. - And you can't do it in war. - Why not? - So we have to be before or after. - Offer it to Ukraine and Russia. Be like, hey, you're both in NATO now. - Would you want Ukraine and Russia in their NATO? - Yeah, why not? - I think you want us to be, the bigger that gets, the more that we stop. - We have. - We have a conflict. - Russia has a, not a unique, but a very distinct authoritarian bend and have, since the inception of that country, right? Same thing with Ukraine, by the way. But we have more in common with Russians than we do with Chinese people. - For sure. - Right, shared religion. - For sure. - Our cultures are basically the same with some minor differences. - I don't know, I mean, look, I like a dictatorship and I like slavery, that's China. I love their food, I love Chinese food. - Nobody likes Russian food. - Yeah, nobody likes Russian food. - They also like the whole way women, free men over there. Do women, are women allowed to vote in China, Bob? Can you look that up? - They're allowed to vote, but they shouldn't be talking about it. - I don't think they do. So I mean, I'm gonna be honest here, as I'm listing off China, what China is, that's kind of where I lean. I don't wanna deal with the food over in Russia. - They may have a household vote, actually. There's some countries that still do that. Like it's one vote per household. - Who's the man of the house, you know? - Well, it depends, right? - Making that vote. - And your house, it would not be you. - It's definitely me. - It would be, I don't know, probably the dog. You don't have a dog. - I don't have a dog. Any more. Dog passed away. - I mean, realistically-- - That was like eight years ago. - Spent no. - Spent no. - Realistically, Ross tells Jessie to go vote for him, 'cause he's got some phone calls. He's like, vote for this. Jessie goes. - He's walking on the treadmill. - Yeah. - That's true. - And then Jessie says she voted for the guy that Ross told her to vote for, but she really did whatever she wants. - Or didn't go, do we not? - Once I told her, I said, look, man, we can pull anybody's voting record pretty easily. - Then I never had to worry about it ever again, which is true. We can pull anybody's vote. - That's why I vote under an alias. (laughing) - Dude. Everybody else did in the last election? Why not? Fuck it. - Yeah. - But are you allowed to vote over there in China for a woman? Yes or no? - Yeah. - You are. - I mean, you're out. - Don't like that. - You're allowed to vote the way that the party tells you. - Yeah, when's the last time Xi Jinping was up for election? 'Cause he's been-- - I think I remember this in the past eight years or so. - Yeah, I don't, he's been there forever, dude. - He is, but I do think periodically they have a 2023, actually. He clinches third term as China's president. - Overwhelmingly, yeah. - Yeah, hold on. Let's see what the percentage was. Doesn't say yes. Oh, and they're five-year terms, too. So we'll see another one in 2020. - Yeah, okay. - So they do at least put up the facade of regular elections. - This Reuters, I like the work ethic by Asians as well. - I'm gonna be honest with you, man. I probably lean towards China on this one. - I mean, I gotta disagree just because the Russians are the descendants, direct descendants of Vikings. So if you look at it that way, they kind of share a common Western lineage with us. They pray to Odin once. - As a white man, though, that's kind of, that's pretty racist of you, you know? We knew you would pick the white guys over the Asians, so that's fine. - I'm trying to think of something to say to get out of it. - Well, who would you do? - Why count? - No. - That doesn't count. - Well, does that count? - Is there a number on your-- - You go full jail? - Oh, that's fucked up. - What? - That's fucked up. - You know what's coming on? - Yeah. - That is. So my grandfather-- - When's the time we're ready to have Frank? - Oh, was he working? - My grandfather was actually in Auschwitz. - Really? - So that hurts extra. - So was his, but he was working. - Yeah, he was working there. He was on duty. - I gotta leave the show. (laughing) I'm getting out of here, man. - I believe it right now. - I knew this was love round. - Did he get out of there? - Did he get out of there? - He got liberated. - Let me stop you right there. We can move on from this topic, but not because I'm sensitive about it and not because you are, certainly. But because you called the show lowbrow, and I want you to explain what the fuck you brought to the audience. - Oh, yeah. - That's not lowbrow. - You piece of shit. - No, that's it. - What is in the box? - This is treatment. - This is hilarious. - The weirdest thing that anybody's ever brought. - This is fucking, yeah. - Ever? - Yes. - It's picked up there, man. - It's got there, man. - 1500 plus shows on this. I would say, shit. We might be close to like 1700 on this one. - That's bonkers. - Because of sports and bonus shows. What's in the box, what did you bring? - So, I buy a car. Back to the, I'm bringing a full circle. I buy a vintage car, I buy a 63 Lotus Elite Series 2 race car. Which is, again, not a super expensive thing, just something that tickles my nerd fancy. I like that. - What's the cost? - Also, 98 or something on that. Science Seal delivered. - Okay. - Again, you're buying a vintage Porsche Ferrari, you're paying a lot more than that. Lotus doesn't carry the same value, but for me, pretty cool relic racing history, right? That was why I bought it. The person I bought it from, I bought it from an estate sale. Car shows up, gets delivered from California. The estate, who's it was being sold on behalf of, was a prominent psychiatrist in Beverly Hills, up until like the mid 80s. And so, in the trunk of this car, is just a ton of just crap from this guy's life and career. All kinds of just random stuff. I've got fucking books on his patients and their settings. Like, they just-- - Really? - All kinds of shit, but by far, the gem of what was in that trunk is what I have for you today. - Okay, what do you got in the box? - You tell me if you can figure out what this thing is. - All right. - This is one of the craziest, most random-- - Is it a drill dough? That's a drill dough made out of a bicycle chain. - It's actually pretty close, yeah. - Can you-- - Holy shit. - Should I pass this to you? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - You should just show the good people at home. - It even smells funky. - Yeah. - That stinks. - What do you think that is? - This, okay, so this appears to be a very old vibrator. - Close. I mean, technically it's got as what it is, but it's a therapeutic device that goes up your ass. - Up your ass? - So that is called the Vibertherm. Everything is in there that came with it. - Move the cable out of the way a little bit so they can see the dough head on it. - I think the cable too also helps what it is. - No, I know, for sure, yeah, but I want 'em to see the dildo head on it. - But the cable itself is so old. - That's, so it's from the '30s, dude. - I was gonna say that's a great depression, error-rectal massager, whatever the hell you want to call it. - If you look at that for pelvic disorders, it says. - It's a nice size 'cause that's not gonna assault your asshole, that's something that even a beginner can have fun with. - I mean, that's gonna get the party started. - You start going in past three inches, though. - Well, that's more than three inches. I don't know. - I mean, to get that head in there. - But I'm saying, but you put the head in there and the head only, I think. You start going deeper, that's on the man, not the person holding it. - I think that the goal is to reach the prostate. - I put a governor on there. - What you going for? - A little piece of fucking hard rubber so it doesn't go on too far. - Ramp that up. - 'Cause you don't want to get gay. - No, you definitely don't. - Not that there's anything wrong with that. That's not the point of this device. - Okay, so I'm gonna read this to the audience here 'cause it came with a card, which is awesome. - Oh, all the documentation. - That is from 1935. - So this says suffering from pelvic disorders. Why grow old prematurely? - The vibray-therm is a positive relief, in most cases. - I like how they say, in most cases. - Oh, there's not so much. Of the prostate gland constipation, it helps with hemorrhoid troubles. It helps you out with, and it's scientifically designed and built. Proven highly effective in years over years of use by physicians. - So that means the physicians are using this on their own ass. - That means if you went to a doctor in the 1920s, 30s, or 40s, they were putting shit up their ass. - No, no, no, no. - Vibrating shit up their ass. - No, no, this continued until the 70s. So that device is that old. But up until the 70s, if you went to a shrink and you were anything, right? They labeled you as hysterical, right? I used to say a woman was in hysterics if she just, you know, whatever. Like that was the catch-all for everything, hysterics. If you were a man and you went to a psychiatrist and you were in hysterics, which again, what does that mean? You're depressed, you're whatever. Anything you can dream of, they prescribed you this. - I can see things a week, shove that up your rear end, fire it up, and that's the cure. - I could see somebody getting addicted. - And that's what they did. - I can see somebody getting addicted to it. - So you, if you like, just for, if you remember the 80s, 70s, or 80s, if you're old enough, like Ross is. - I just turned 34, two years ago. - Yeah, wow, no, that's not. - 48 hours ago, yeah. - I believe it. - You're in your late 60s. If you were around back then, and you remember somebody that had drop cords all over their house, extension cords all over their house, chances are that he couldn't go without it. Like I need a cable now. I don't have time to even go into the other room. I need this thing in my ass now, right? It's like the old school vacuum cleaner, you had to unplug it and go to the next room and re-plug it back in, but you're doing that with this thing. - Well, and here's Rashick, it's wild here. So it says proven highly effective in years of use by physicians in hospitals and by individuals, both men and women. - Can you imagine that showing up on your insurance bill? You were out, you were in a coma for six weeks and you wake up and you're like, I'm sorry, what's this line right here? You guys were doing what to my bottle? - The best is get to, there's testimonials in that bottle. - It says absolutely safe, pleasant to use and economical. Use it in the privacy of your own home. It definitely says that, so don't do this out in public. - I kind of feel like that went without saying. - I think so too. But my question is like, is there merit to this thought, right? Let's remove butt play from the equation specifically and just talk about getting off. Basically, what's being said here is if more people were regularly climaxing and reaching, having pleasure, you'll chill out, you won't be a dick. It won't be such an asshole all the time. - It's 100% sure. - That's essentially what that prescription was. - Yes. - Hey, you're angry, you're pissed, you're sad, get off. - I mean, you're gonna release more serotonin and oxytocin if you're coming more for sure, yeah. - Yeah, so like, the price is on here, by the way. - What was it? - $27.50. - That's a 1935. - In 1935? - Yeah, so how much does that kind of be like $150? - I think even more, so like butt play was only available to the rich, the special elites could only get this kind of there, so-- - Wait, let's face it, that's probably what led to gayness later on and all this other, you know? Once you get used to it, you're like, yeah, I can take a dick next. - $27.50, $19.35 is $6.23.64 now. - 600. - So 600 bucks. - Yeah, and for comparison's sake, I think a Theragon is like $3.50, $400. So it's, this is a premium item. - It is, for rich people, for rich puddles. - Yeah, for rich puddles here. So here's what's, I wanna ask you about this, Dan, because I wasn't familiar, this is a round back then, it says heat infrared rays, massage guaranteed to bring relief at no cost here. It infrared rays back then? - Sure, but that doesn't have it. - Yeah, I think they just-- - There's no infrared. - There's a heating coil in there. - No, there's not the extra red heating there. - You would see a fuckin' transmitter. - Have you plugged this in and fire it up? - I have not dared to plug it in because, I mean, look at that freakin' cord, I'm afraid of startin' an electrical fire. - Well, we're not afraid to run here. - We're not afraid of that, we're not afraid of that. - Oh, I didn't even anticipate we're gonna get to do this today. - What's the danger in all sincerity if I plug this in right now? I've got a thin runner or anything. Has anybody have any answers? - We short a breaker. - The danger is addiction, as Dan said. - Yeah, I think that's the best thing I guess. - I guess there's no real risk. - Is there any point that I could get electrocuted here? - Probably, yeah. - I think, for real, it could start a fire. - It's 110, you'll be fine. - You're good. - I'll just stand, if he looks like he's getting shocked, stand up and kick the shit out of him so he gets knocked off the line. - Do you have that responsibility? - Like we said, I have the liability, right? - No, no, no. - R-P-R-P-R. - Can you send a waiver from your head off? - No, I'm gonna get this away from my computer only 'cause I've got the book on your watch of it. - This is great. - I wanna hear it. - Yeah, I wanna know. - Real quick, you should know that with the electricity, they said that using it is electric. Like it's an electric experience. So just be ready. - Bob, God damn it. Stop delaying the fucking level. - Am I gonna get shocked or no? - Put some gloves on. Do we have rubber gloves? - Do we have any rubber gloves? Give me the fucking-- - No, we do. - Joel, give me the Grinch costume over there. We've got a bunch of costumes. - I don't know what the fuck you think that Grinch costume is gonna do. That's the most flammable thing I've seen. - No, I don't care about catching on fire. I don't like, who's the guy yesterday? - That's not gonna stop you from getting a bunch of guy who set himself on fire. - Yeah, what's what was his name? - I don't know. - Say his name. - I'll free Palestine today. Just give me that fucking Grinch thing at least so I don't get shocked as much. - That's not gonna stop anything. - Do you know how electricity works? - A stain, it'll shock the sting a little bit better, dude. - It won't. - Give me that, Joel, grab that green. - Don't do that, that's stupid. - Joel, maybe pick up that pace a little bit? Jesus Christ, man. - Oh, there. - It's unbelievable. - How old is Lee building? - It's not as old as a camera down. - Yeah, nice job. - Oh, and they're about to take it for eminent domains so we can burn this down, but we should buy that. - It's right there, Joel. It's a goddamn huge green Grinch costume right in front of your face. - I don't care to make it worse. - It's not gonna do anything. - It's a mental thing. It's mental, all right? Oh, I can't wait to watch you die. - With it 19, 35. - This is Joel, we're not taking our time here. Okay, there we go. All right. - All right, here we go, guys. - Here we go. - Last drinking bros ever. - Joel had to get a look at it. - Yeah, 'cause this part's rubber and I feel like that'll be it. Oh, fuck, it's a good idea. - Wait, before you plug it in, is it? - God damn it, dude. I don't need that. - Is there a switch on the thing to turn it off and on? Make sure it's in the office. - I think it's got like a hair dryer style trigger. - Yeah, let Joel do it. He's expendable. - I mean, Dan really wants you to be a leader of the man. - Yeah, Delco screams out no. Hey, Delco, if I die, you're out of a job, dude. You should want Joel to fuck you. - The show goes on. - It doesn't go on. - Well, it could go on. Oh, fuck. - Let's go get it. - All right, he's trying. - He's plugged in. - Yep. - Here we go. - All right, does the drill dough work? - It does not work. - No, it does not work. All right, so the fucking vibrator from 1935. - Wait, wait, wait. There's a switch on the cord, I think. - Is there? - Something. - What's that? - God, this stinks too. - Yeah, but not like you would think. It doesn't smell like old butts or anything. - No, not old, not butts. Well, that was anti-climatic. - Yeah, it is what it is. - I appreciate you trying that out. - Oh, there it is. Oh, shit. Put it up against my phone. - Oh my God, it still works. - Not the head, God damn it. - Put the back of it. - Put the back of it on the microphone. - Mine's his mouth. - Put it up your ass. - Did you guys hear that? - Wow. - This is gonna hurt his head. - Holy shit, we just got a fucking dildo from 1935 to work, a vibrator. - Try it out. - No fucking what? - Yeah. (laughing) So I'm gonna be honest. - Put it on the metal. - Put it on the arm. - Are you touching that thing? - I'm touching it. Dude, I've gone this far. - I mean, I'm not gonna touch the head of the dildo. - Put it on the metal parts so they can hear the vibration. - Live on the, oh, okay. - It's legit. You should be able to hear that now. - Yeah, you pick up that sound, Delco? - Yeah. - Okay, so, gonna be honest with you here, the quality's pretty fucking good. - I mean, it's lasted almost 100 years. - For 19 years old. - For 19 years old. - For 19 years old. - For 19 years old. - Look at this thing, it looks like one of those old German, guns. - A ruler? - A Luger, I mean. - A Luger, doesn't it? - A little bit like a Luger, yeah. - Boom, dude, look at this. I'm worried that you might be shaking some Duke loose out of that thing, you know? - It stinks a little bit, but I don't mind it. - Look at me, man. I think that thing stays locked up in the garage. - It happens. All right, let's see here on the side. Does it go up higher? Okay, so that goes down. So it's got speeds on it. All right, that's nice. - Well, you wanna work your way up, obviously. - God damn it. - I kind of feel like technology's been here that long and only the rich got to use this. - And I wonder about-- - I kind of feel like that's for the show now. - Oh my God, here's the title of it. - I kind of think I leave that here. - It's the deal of thermal. - Oh, why do they call it Della? - Come on, dude. You had to throw Dilla in there somewhere. - I don't know what that's for. - The Dilla Therm, it is not a Dilla. - I didn't realize, I read part of the pamphlet earlier, but I didn't realize there were anti-aging properties to it. And that explains why Greek people age so slowly, 'cause they have shit up their ass all the time. - Damn it, we got some sponsors to put this shit wagon on the air, first in formos, firstform.com/drinkinbros. I took my microfactors right before I came on the show today. No excuses, all right? 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I couldn't find it anywhere. - Oh my God, the infrared, this heats up. - Yeah, but it's just heating it's just heating it's on. - Infrared, but this feels like a curling iron. Not burn your skin. - Is that an infrared device? I have no fucking idea. - No idea, but it doesn't burn. But now that this heats up and it's inside your asshole. - I found some information on this. I found a Reddit thread on this device. - No way. - Yeah, so in 1947, they put an ad out that made all sorts of scientific claims and the FTC sued them. They were allowed to keep selling it, but they had to delete all references to prostate disease from their ads. - No fucking way. - Truth in advertising. - Made in South Bend. - Made in South Bend, Indiana. - This? - So a Notre Dame graduate made that. - Yeah. - Keep good at judge. (laughing) - Who's the mayor? - Mayor. - Dude. - Here's the ad. It says, "Prostate Titus, question mark." - Many are finding welcome relief through the gentle vibration, adjustable soothing heat and dilation provided from the Dilla Therm, a modern scientifically designed instrument for easy economical home use. Liberal terms, right today for a full details and a 30 day trial offer. - I'm sorry, a 30 day trial. - Who's in the net back? - I'm not sending this back. - Who's taking it back? - I'm gonna be honest with you, man, 'cause I've had a finger in my asshole, like this is great and it's warm. I'm kind of in on this. - That is my gift to you. - I think you should sound with that. - I think that that should have a permanent home here on the show. - Oh, dude. - I think that should be-- - Are you giving this to us? - Yeah, I think that it's-- - We'll put it up for real. - Well, we're giving this to us. We'll do it. - Do we find the value? Is that like some weird medical device with a bunch of volume? - Don't look at the value of any value. - That I should be locked in. - No, you know, I don't know, actually. Look it up, Bob. - Yeah, I just find it. - How much does one of these go for in eBay? - It's on the art of manliness. - There is like a weird community. - In 2009, it's listed as one of the 13 most worst products ever created. - Okay. - For men. - I think it's great. - There's a weird market for these medical devices. - There is. - You're right, there is. - Oh, they made one for women as well. The dilla spray, feminine dilating vaginal syringe. - And what's the difference size and shapewise? Can you blow that up? - Yeah. - Oh, it's much more. - Damn, what the fuck? What are those two things coming out of the back? - I don't know what's going on. - Is that a plunger? - What the fuck is that? - I can't believe this fucking work, dude. - I can't believe it's something else. - Somebody find me a value. If it's like 5K or less, you can have it. If we're talking about like a crazy oddity, I'm keeping that shit and so. - Yeah, what do we got there, price-wise? - What's that gonna get me, Bob? Just type that in. - It's not there. - Really? - I couldn't find it anywhere. - Are you couldn't find it anywhere either? - Yeah, I mean, I did a quick Google search when I first came into possession of it. I could not find any for sale or anything. - You may as tell me right now this child couldn't find a dilla-therm. - That's right. So cut to Dan's side. - I'm gonna wash my hands 'cause they fucking stink. So I'll be right back, but yeah, you can put this thing on them. - The worst products ever made, that's one of them. Hold on, I'm trying to find, here we go. First of all, what even is prostatitis? What the fuck does that mean? - Like prostate cancer maybe? Or probably just inflamed prostate? - Or just use a normal thing. - Okay. - It's a disorder of the prostate inflammation, yeah. So you jam that in there. - And it cools things down a bit. - I probably like if they're having trouble peeing, right? You put that up your asshole and bang, bang. - But how do you not just start walking around with it all the time? - Well, that's the problem. - Yeah, that's what they found. - That's what I sincerely hope happens to Ross. - What's the other name for this thing? - The vibotherm or the dilla-therm? - Viber-therm price. I'm trying to find this thing. Just getting a bunch of random. So vibotherm is now a fucking sports medicine table too. - Of course it is. - They should have done their trades. - It's a lifestyle brand now. - Yeah. - They should have done a better job of trademarking this thing. Although they lost FTC stuff, so. - We should train to mark this thing. - I feel like it can. I mean, it's open. - Hard AF. - Dilla-therm. - Dilla-therm. West, I mean, there's a lot of Reddit threads on it. - That's more than I was able to find. So thank you, crack research team. - We are on crack, I think, is what it looks. - It's basically just Reddit's the only place I can find. - Yeah, I can't find any price anywhere, which probably is. - So it's yours for sale. - It makes me a promise that if this ends up being a multi-million dollar device, you cut me in on that action. - Yeah, we'll split it. - When you auction it. - We'll split it. - Other than that, I think it should live permanently. - And I also think. - Now this is actually, I find the precursor to the Dilla-therm. - God, that thing is a fuckin' sword, man. - Oh, that's for constipation and prostate trouble. - Yeah, so the original great American challenge. - The recto rotor. Actual size. - We gotta get our hands on one of these. - It's got lubricating vent holes. Large enough to be efficient, small enough for anyone over 15. - Oh, God. - Over 15 years old. - That's Christ. - That seems illegal. - That's, I mean, that's over 15. - And it spits out lube, too, like that fuckin' Gillette shaver, like shower shaver that jizzes on your face. - Well, I think you have to work it for a while before it starts spitting. - My God. - See what you did there. - And it says actual size. - What's the size of this thing? Can you drill down on that, move on and do it? - Well, too late, a little now on. - Now, the recto rotor should be noted as the only device that reaches the vital spot effectively. - That's a vital spot. - Is that what we're calling it? - Yeah. - Says this picture tells its own story. - It really does. - That's a true statement. Can you read some of those testimonials? - Inside the box here? - Yeah, it was in that little book in the front. You just washed up. - Yeah. It's all right, I'm not going back. - Is that where they were? Or are they in that little book? - I think they're in the other book, but probably everywhere. - Yeah, I mean, there's a lot on here. - There's a lot of satisfied customers. - I mean, tons, man. - Look in that little book in the front, like on the top half of the box right there. I think that's where it is. - This one card says, "Men, don't be old." And then it does stay for the prostate gland and it looks like it is written by a doctor. That's in pencil, actually. - Oh my God. - So was this the same guy that died? - Yeah, it was a doctor, this famous psychiatrist in Beverly Hills who passed away. - So he was clearly prescribing this. - Yeah. - Because it's written in pencil here. - And using it himself, most definitely. - I'm going to be honest, I just tried it out and it's not bad. It'll get the party started. - You joined a long line of satisfied men. - God, there's so many fucking brochures. - Look in the top of the box where you put those other papers in on top of it. - No, I know, but it's just like I'm looking at it. So there's also one called the Prostone in here. Now it's not part of this device, but this you definitely just sit on and it does not look comfortable. - Oh, so it's a sitting. - And it says, "Can not burn or shock." And it's like, all right, cool, man. - Bob, what are you looking up over there? - We're putting up my ass. - Just so other prostate. - Bob, I'm trying to find a worse thing you can possibly find. - I mean, here's this one. This is from 1918. - What is that, a fucking backhand? - Yeah. There's a couple of light bulbs and then this thing that this wand that obviously goes. - It's like a solid kind. - So you generate electricity with your asshole? Maybe. - Maybe, dude. - So yeah, that's my gift to you, fellas. - No, I appreciate it. - I wanna hear some of these reviews. - Okay, testimonials here. God damn it, the Vitaphy. This is to South Bend, Indiana. Gentlemen, my knowledge of your vibrotherm is limited to 10 treatments. (laughing) I feel like 10 is excessive. I feel like 10 is excessive, Bob. - What's in with you? - My, my body is limited to 10 treatments. But here's what it did for me. I had a long drive to make, which I dreaded very much. After being behind the wheel of my car for an hour or so, I suffered great pain in the small of my back and shoulders, which no pills or medicine would remove. I was telling a friend of mine about this, and he told me that he's just the thing I needed, which is the vibrotherm. I was very skeptical of it to try it, to try to get relief. I tried, I agreed to do it because I was desperate. I took a 20 minute treatment each night for three nights. And then I drove 1,436 miles, and never once did I feel any more dreaded pain. - Can we just discuss for a minute, how this was a device he borrowed? - Yeah, and then gave it that. That was his buddies. - Not only that, but he did three treatments that were 20 minutes apiece. 20 minutes inside your asshole feels excessive. - I feel like that's a long time. That's way longer than it would take for your prostate to get-- - That's a fairly immediate thing. - A massaging thing. - Oh my God, this gets worse. Upon my return, I took, who comes back? - Jesus Christ. - He's edging at this point. - Yeah, so upon his return from his work trip, I took seven more treatments over the course of the next three weeks, and it practically made a new man out of-- - Oh my God. - You don't say it, right? - This is Elton John's testimonial. (singing in foreign language) - Oh God, no. - Oh God, wait, wait, wait, hang on here. - Oh God. - I now eat more, and it tastes better. (laughing) - Oh. - That's science. - That is nothing to do with-- - I guess the question is, how do you get grown men during World War II to put shit up their ass and talk about it in public? And this is the answer. - This is the answer. - Clearly. - It says, "I do not have to get up nights anymore, "and in the morning I'm ready to go to work, "where as before it took me two hours to get started. "I wanna thank my friend and you "for introducing me to your wonderful product, "the Vibrathurm." - Good God. - And this is, oh, he's got a name here. Oh shit. - Let's look this guy up. - Yours truly, K-period Langwith, L-A-N-G-W-I-T-H. - Oh, here it goes. - Hang on, South Bend, Indiana, and the date that he used it is on here. December 16th, 1935. - Oh man, that was like, so we're looking for somebody. - Can we find somebody's great grandfather? - It's great grandfather who has seen a glass in his asshole out. - L-A-N-G-W-I-T-H. - Correct. K-period, and he was from South Bend, Indiana, December 16th, 1935. Holy shit, dude. I mean, I think all of these testimonials need to be read in that old-time release. - Oh, I mean, look, I can do the next one in one, but it's just so fucked. Oh my God, I got a full name on the next one if you guys want to read that one. - There's a Robert Langwith from South Bend who was born in 1923, died, and so he would have been 15 at the time, which is right around the age. They expect you to start jamming ship around. - Yeah, this was probably his dad. - Could be his dad. - I know it's 35, he was 12 then, so that's not this guy. - Okay. - I'm not seeing a K. - All right, I'll go to the next one here and we'll try to find this guy. So his critique was a gentleman. The best way I know how to show my appreciation to you and your vibraphurm is to tell you what it is done for me. I had suffered with the prostate trouble, constipation, hiles. - Yeah, so Robert Langwith is the son of the dildo user. - Is he really? - Delayed Kenneth and I love it. - Yeah, fucking nailed it, dude. - Let's go. - How did you do that that quickly? - Well, it's in his obituary. That's what I was gonna add too. - Wow. - Yes. - So we would find these people. - Kenneth Langwith puts stuff up his fucking ass, dude. - He sure did, dude. - Now who's this guy's son? Who's he survived by? Let's find his mother. - Oh, we have a picture of him? There's a picture of the body. - This guy died in 2008, so who's he survived by? - Yeah, is that the son? - Control F and find survived. He was also in the Navy, this guy. So he was in World War II in combat, it appears. - Wow. - The son of the dildo user was a fucking Navy veteran. - Yeah, he may have tried it yourself. We don't know. - He may have been by that. - Yeah, we don't know. So are you putting up like a case of hard AF for anybody who can actually find the Langwith family and bring them to us? - I just put him on the show. And if one of the Langwiths, by the way, L-A-N-G tell you I-T-H. - He has three daughters with no sons. - Oh boy. - It's gonna be rough. - Did they wanna find out today that their grandfather was-- - Three daughters. - Lou Ann Spore. - Phyllis of Anchorage. - Nancy Langwith Kirschner and Jerry Lynn Langwith. Oh boy. - Oh boy. - This was not my intention, ladies. - Wow. - Langwith family, I did not mean it to this too. - It happens. It happened, there's another one here. So this guy who says this-- - Oh my God, Nancy Langwith Kirschner was the fucking Kitsap person of the year. (laughs) - What's Kitsap? - It's a fucking city. (laughs) - Do we have a picture of her? - Yeah. - Hang on, I'll sit here. - This is getting dark right this year. - This is getting fucking wild today. - You got it? - You got it? Let's see a picture of this-- - The pictures aren't loading though. Kingston Chamber of Commerce, Kirschner and-- - Kingston, what? - Her husband. - Indiana? - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - Kitsap. - Kingston, Indiana, person of the year. - Just click images to see what we got here. - Probably these guys. - Oh. - Yeah. - There's a lot of danceies in the middle there. Okay. - Fucking internet. - Is that Washington? - Hold on. Yeah, I'm sorry, it's bad resolution here. - It's fine. - Small town nonsense. - No, it's fine. Pop it up and we'll expand it. We just need a little pixies at what she looks like. So what's she reckon here? She's 60, something years old. At that point. So yeah, that syncs up with the right date. So was that her father then who was using this on his asshole? - Her grandfather. - Her grandfather. - Her grandfather, okay. - So we need to fucking-- - Eventually her father. - Maybe we should send this to her. - For a Christmas gift. - We'll find out what her birthday is. - And say hey, this is in memory of your dead grandfather. - Your grandfather we found used to shove this thing up his ass. - And it still works. So that way maybe you could shove it up your ass. - To reconnect, if you want to have a seance, and shove this thing up your fucking ass. - It's like ghosts. But instead of a face, it's a vibrator that your grandfather used on his asshole. And you can kind of-- ♪ Oh my love ♪ - And then stuff it up your ass. - I've got a phone number for her. - That is a magical story. - I have a phone number for her. - 'Cause you imagine if we called her and said look. - Hun, Nancy, I hate to break this to you, okay? - We found an old vibrator that your grandfather used to use on his ass. - I found her fucking home address. - Wow. - And phone number. - Wow. - We get to send it to her. - How, where is that, South Bend? - If we go to another Notre Dame game. - It's Washington. - She's in Washington, the state or do you see? - The state. - Okay. - Kitsap County. - We'll never go there. - We'll never go on there now. - No. - No. - She lives on one of the islands. - Now, the fun part of this is there's another man's name on here, so I'll read his description of this device and then we'll find this man and maybe they're closer, maybe they're in Texas. So he says I'd suffered with prostate trouble, constipation, piles. I don't know what piles is. Piles of shit. Like hey, I'm just, I'm shitting the bed and there's just piles of shit in the bed. I don't know what piles. Piles is hemorrhoids. - Oh, God. - Which is an old-timey name for that? - Yeah. - Hey, I got the piles. My piles is acting up. (laughing) I can't come in today. I got the fucking piles. - Piles is acting up. It says I got piles, sleepless nights, loss of appetite. - How in the goddamn fuck is this helping with hemorrhoids? How's it not making it way worse? - I'm not sure. It's stretching it out a little bit. - It's physically beating them down? - Maybe it's, it's really like that. - And he says, I was always tired. I had tried everything I'd ever heard of, regardless of cost, but found very little relief until a friend told me about your vibraphurm, all caps. We still do that to this day. And it made it possible for me to get one. After my first treatment, I received more relief than I expected to get. And after 10 treatments, I was a new man. So he was a new man as well after 10. - 10 is the magic number. - I guess it is. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for the vibraphurm. And I would not take a thousand dollars for it, even if I could not replace it. Like so I, he's saying, look, there's not enough money that you can give me to pull this vibrator out of my asshole. - Yeah, somebody said something in the chat and I just confirmed it with the man himself, Jared Taylor's from Kitsap County. - Shut the fuck up. Are you kidding? - I'm not kidding. - Does he know the family, maybe? Does she have any kids? - I mean, how big must that be? - Do you want to call him live on air? Will you answer? - Yeah. - All right. - I don't know if he's in a meeting. - Of course. - The intense suffering endured from these complications made me an old man before I was 30. And now that I'm 35, I am happy to say that I feel my real age and that my health is entirely restored. And if you care to use my name as the man who tried them and found the vibrotherm, the only one that was for me, you have the liberty to do so. And this is Harold J. Curtis, Bob. Is his full name here? It says, doesn't say where he's from, unfortunately. - That's going to be hard to find. - Yeah, that's going to make it tough. - Harold J. Curtis. - Hey, so-- - Jared, you're live on air. - You're live on drinking bros right now. - Fuck yeah. - We have a guest in and he brought this old fucking butt vibrator thing from-- - From 1935? - From 1935 and we looked up some of the reviews from the pamphlet and one of the ladies is the granddaughter of one of the guys who wrote one of the reviews and she lives in Kitsap County. - In Washington. - So I'm wondering maybe if you know these people, her name is Nancy Langwith Kirschner. And then her husband's name is, what's her husband's name? - Bob? - Hold on, let me go back. - It's her first year. - Do you know any Kirschner or Kirschner? - No, no Langwith Kirschner. That sounds like a central Kitsap or South Kitsap. - They live on Bainbridge, I think. - Oh yeah, that's a good old eaters, man. They don't talk to us. - Oh, you're saying she's-- - Oh! - They're hippies, is what you're saying. - Okay, now let's start to make more sense. - Oh, they're rich, I see. - Do you know that last name, dude, Langwith or Kirschner? - Yeah. - Other fuckers, they're backyard's a golf course, I'm fucking an 18th old. - Yeah, that tracks, that tracks because-- - These are expensive. - This thing was super expensive back then. So what it is, it's like a butt vibrator that's supposed to be used to fix your prostate. - Fix everything. - So if you want people to use it for pleasure. - So, you know, not officially, yeah. - No, but I just, Jared, I was able to turn it on, it works live on air, it heats up, and the vibration is great. And we're looking at 85 years later here. - Now you thought about adding like a girl riding you while sitting up with this, being applied. - We've just been introduced to this product, but yeah, we've all had that thought. - We've all had that thought, and then they do make one, and they're saying it's for prostate issues, but it clearly looks like you just sit on it. - Yeah, they make another one that's basically like a metal. It's a metal sibian, basically, which doesn't seem very comfortable. But we'll see, all right, I'll see you later. - Okay, so he doesn't know him. - What about Harold J. Curtis? - That does track that they're rich people. - Yes. - If they live on Bainbridge, that's-- - If the dildo was $663 back in 1935-- - Adjusted for inflation, yeah. - Yeah, because let's face it, going back to one of our sponsors here on the show, which I love by the way, is that, what's the gun, Theragon? The Theragon we had on the show, and we did it for a Christmas, like a Q4 thing, and I bought it at Best Buy. It was the greatest goddamn thing ever, and I think there was actually a fight between Giorgio and Delco over it, 'cause Giorgio kept jacking it, or vice versa. - Yeah, I think it's in this house now. - Is it really? - Even though he doesn't work here anymore. - Sure, sure, he took that as a parting gift, which is fun, but-- - I think I found Harold J. Curtis. Is it with 1S or 2? - 1S. - That's on him then, probably. But the timeline matches up. I mean, I don't know, that's a name, there's gotta be-- - Ah! - There's probably a lot of Harold-- - I don't know, Harold J. Curtis. - There's a lot of Harold's out there. - Harold Curtis is, I bet-- - From South Bend, Indiana. - I thought we didn't have a location on that. - Well, let's say he's from, 'cause all the other ones-- - All the other ones from Indiana, yeah. So let's try Indiana, let's see what this guy is. Now, Bob, in the background here, I'm catching this out of the corner of my eye. Who's this old man that you're showing? - Yeah, we've got one. - That's just from the Google search house. - So this guy would have been 25 at the time. - I don't know where it acts. - This is Harold W. Curtis, sorry. - Yeah, so I've got a paper from 1964. Harold Curtis, oh, Harold M. Curtis, damn it. - Ah, ah, ah, do you think they changed international to protect the innocent, butthole? - Fuck the innocent. - I don't think that's it. - Well, it could have, man. - I mean, I'm even looking for somebody that has kids with the first, or middle name Jeff or something, 'cause-- - Yep, now the beauty of this is, he does say in his last sentence, you can use my name, I don't care. That's how proud I am to use this product. So it's not like we're hunting down somebody that doesn't wanna be found, or thanks. - And you can't, you can't-- - It's really medical. - Yeah. - You can't blame people for weird shit that their ancestors did anyways. Otherwise, Bob would be in a lot of trouble, right? 'Cause-- - That's true. - They don't slaves like what, fucking 25 years ago. - Yeah, very, very close to that cutoff point. - I'm not finding any Harold J. Curtis's. - Okay. - All right. Either way here, I wanna say this, the craftsmanship on this thing? - Top notch. - And the fact that it works 70 years later, I didn't have a pair of fucking headphones work earlier for this thing. - I guarantee you, Harold Curtis. - Let alone a vibrator from 1935. - Yeah, Harold Curtis didn't think when he was sitting on this thing in 1935, that it would still be running in 2024. - No. - No. - Probably wasn't even thinking about that. I mean, let that be a testament to American manufacturing. Let's bring it back. - Yeah. - We can build a-- - We can make it 35 years. - We can make miracles happen here in this country. - And have it run. - We can make America great again in November and get heated, operating dildos back up in service. - In for red. - I didn't, by the way, for the audience, I didn't get shocked whatsoever. So there was no shock to it. Nothing like this thing roared to life as if it was the Roaring 20s again. - I am shocked and relieved that that's how that went. - Well, so it was-- - Could have went real south real quick. - It was Harold J. Curtis, he was shocked and relieved, according to his testimonial there, so. - Wait, I may have found one. - Shout out to them. You think you found Harold J. Curtis? - Maybe. - Yes. - It'd be nice to put a face with the butthole that this was inserted to. - I did, I found him. - Found him, yes. - You did? - South Bend, St. Joseph, Indiana. Born 1903 wife, Thelma Curtis. - Oh. - Son, Robert E. Curtis. So Bob fined Robert E. Curtis in South Bend. He was 11 at the time. That's his son, so let's track that forward. Find his a bit and then find if he was survived by anyone. - Again, again, guys, this is for science. We've gotta know who's butthole this was in, you know? Because the review was lights out and it did make me wanna buy it once I was reading it and then let alone turning it on using it. - By the way, Jay stands for Jewel, J-E-W-E-L-L, I assume that's like a family name probably you would think of it. - No shit. - Okay. - Yep. - Look at that. Big fan of Jewel, the first album was one of my faves there. - I won't say the address because-- - No, let's not do that, yeah. And we don't want people showing up taking pictures with-- - This is 19-4, let's show it with a date. - With a dildo, yeah. (laughing) Did you find Robert Curtis? - Yeah, you got a pic of him. If we got a pic of him, that'd be great. I just wanna see who's asshole this was in and then I can kind of move on with my day here. Otherwise-- - Born in 1929. - Robert Curtis. - Robert Curtis, man, right during the Great Depression. That's not him? All right, 'cause I don't want you to put up some of the picture of somebody whose asshole wasn't in. - That's not him. - Bob, so let's really focus here today because I don't need a lawsuit for, hey, you guys said that my grandfather was using this vibrator and his asshole. - Okay, Robert Curtis was born in '29? - Yeah. - Okay. - He died and I found it, I think. In '19, oh, that's not the right one. I don't think, no, that's not it. Indianapolis, 4 p.m., did it or does. - It's hard to find somebody's asshole, dead guy's asshole online. I was not expecting this type of-- - Well, we're not looking for his asshole, necessarily. - Well, it's attached to his body, and that's sort of the same thing. - I'm guessing this dude's body's in the ground at this point, though. - Robert E. Curtis, is that the sun? - 'Cause there's a lot-- - I got what I think, is it, right? Hold on, let me do the-- - That would have been '19-'26. - Is that his son? Or you think, that's him? 'Cause that's a-- - That's the son. - That's the son of the-- - That's the son of the-- - In '19-'20. - In '19-'20. - '20-'21. - '21, this is the same thing. - Oh, he was an army veteran in World War II. Why is it all military guys that are doing this? - This guy, this other one, everybody was a military veteran back there. - Yes. - Back then. - That's true, right? - 15% of the country deployed to World War II. - That's right, dude. That's right. And then they all had, you know, prostate issues, and they had to use these vibrators when they got home. Maybe that's when my grandfather doesn't, he never told me like any war stories from World War II. - 'Cause it was all anal stuff. - Well, he was on a submarine, wasn't he? - He was, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, he was. He could have been using this thing on a nightly basis, and maybe that's why he didn't want to talk about it. - He's getting jerked off by dudes. - It wasn't that, he-- - No, that's what happens. He was suffering his assholes. - He's a hand. - Everyone's a hand. - Everyone's a hand. - Everyone's a hand. - Everyone's a hand over there, sure. - Yeah, I'm not so sure the electrical systems on those things would support that device right there. That might be a good way to-- - Can you smell it from here? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - So it's still stinks. - It's still stinks. - It stinks. - It's yours. - No, I appreciate it. But it does stink now that I turn it on. - I think it is this guy. - Is it? - I think it is, yeah. - Do we have a picture of him? - No. I mean, maybe there would be one, but I don't think so. - All right, well, hey, we'll leave his, oh shit, Bob's going into ear books. Pop that on screen there. - Oh, wow. - Just to see how deep Bob's going. - Wow. - That, I mean, that's an old school black and white ear book, dude. - Fellow citizens. - Yes. Whenever you address somebody who's fellow citizens, you know you're getting into some shit there. Chances are you're a clan member, but whatever. Either way, wild, fascinating show here. We do this thing at the end of the show called Drinking Bro of the Week. Who would you like to give Drinking Bro of the Week to? Someone that has inspired you or helped you become the person you are today. I don't know the inventor of the Thera Dildo here, or else you could give it to them, but. - I guess I'll give it to the source for me. Doctor. - Are you allowed to say his name? - I can't remember his name, so it's a moot point. - Oh, no shit. - But whoever that guy was that had that thriving breakfast in Beverly Hills that I bought that car from, that's analyst inspiration. - So you buy this car and it comes full of shit from this estate sale. They didn't have to clean it out legally or anything like that. - No, that's part of it. It's like, there's a, what's the name of that website? - Which one? - The one where you can, it's an online estate sale, but it's basically like you bring a U-Haul. What do they call it? Not American Pickers, what's the one where they open up the fucking storage doors? - It's essentially like that. You just get what you get. Now the estate could have made the effort to itemize what was in that trunk, but they just couldn't be bothered. - I found the FTC complaint, so I can see who the owner was. - The owner of Vibertherm et cetera. - So Dellotherm co-incorporated a corporation W.P. Thelands individually and as president of Dellotherm. So W.P. Thelands, J.R. Dorsey, who is the vice president of the company and those are the only two names I see, I'm sorry. - Such perfect 1930s names, J.R. Dorsey and W.P. Thelands. - How do you spell Thelands? - T-H-I-E-L-E-N-S. - I like that name, so I'm gonna go with that one. W.P. Thelands, my drinking bro of the week gifted the world release. - My God. - It's not Adam Theland. - That's just what Google's giving me. - Is that his fucking, what if that's his great grandson? - Put it in quotations. - That would be amazing. - Look, Aubrey Marcus' dad invented the flesh, but it's not completely out of the fucking realm of possibility. - Yeah, whatever, yeah. - But yeah, he definitely leaned into it. - Son of a bitch. - Can we get a picture of W.P.? - I didn't know this was going down sign. - Oh, W.P. Thelands. - W.P. Thelands. - I didn't know this was going down today. I'm happy it did, holy shit. - See, he was from Alabama, by the way, if that helps. - W.P. Thelands, oof. - So really, this guy was just on a crusade to get his normal recreational activity. - Legalize. - Yeah, re-re-re-carriage. - 'Cause this was frowned upon in Alabama back in the day. - I don't think you were, yeah, yeah. - But it was not a lot of stuff anything else around the household. - So he also owned West Alabama Broadcasting Company. - No way. - Oh boy. - The fucking, the radio station in Alabama, he owned it. - So I could have done ad reads back then for this fucking, yeah, with your bottle getting drummed up. - Well, come to the Delafern, kids. This will get your prostate going, your heart pumping, and your gunk moving. - Fuck, dude. - Let's be into that voice, Joe Langston, actually worked at that radio station. He's one of the most famous broadcasters of all time. - Really? - You mean the guy who made that voice for real back in the day? - Yeah, one of them, yeah, yeah. Holy shit, dude, what a wild show. - Yeah? - Fuck the name. - Weird, weird, wild stuff, huh? - Yeah. Where can everybody find you on socials and all that fun stuff? - Nowhere. - Good. - I don't do any of that. - Good, you don't need noise. - Yeah, you don't need to. - Actually, that's not true. I've had Instagram for three weeks because I was told to get on and I've never been more convinced than ever that the world is impendingly ending. - Yeah, we are. - It's fucking, we're doomed, it's over, man. - It's fucking over. - I shouldn't have, don't find me on social. - Should we make, I'll leave this up to the audience. Should we make Della Therm t-shirts? - I think that's a slam dunk. - All right, yeah. - But you have to put the-- - Send the picture of that to Jay and just let him do whatever he wants to do. - Just put it on a shirt. - Yeah, you have to put some of those testimonials and quotes on the back. - Della Therm. - The coil up cable too. And then we'll make a commercial for it. - The coil up cable is amazing. - We're gonna post this on drinking bros podcast Instagram here as soon as it shows over. So you can see it for our audio listeners out there who can't see what this is. And well, for the video watchers here, this is why you subscribe to Patreon. Don't think that I could plug in a 1935 vibrator live on air on YouTube and there'd be real cool with that. So fun show, Jesus Christ. - Della, Harold J. Curtis is also 12 years older than his wife, Selma. - Good for him. - Yeah, what's the relevance of that one? - I just think that's fucking hot, man. - Yeah. - Oh, okay. - He's into it. - I mean, you're talking about the heroine, Jerry Lee Lewis married like a 12 year old cousin, right? - Sure did. - Same time period, I think. - I think she was 14. - Yeah, she was 13. - I mean, pretty par for the course. I mean. - Yeah, it's just kind of. - Selma Curtis, Indiana, found her, boom. I don't know why I didn't look for her fucking name too. - Is she hot? - That's her for sure. She just died on January the 16th of the year. - I'm not laughing, I'm not laughing. - Last month? - She just died. - How old is she? - Wow. - She was born in 1928, so I don't know. - What's the last name? - Curtis, Selma Curtis. - She was 95 years old. - We literally just missed the funeral service by 30 days. - Damn it, dude. I would have buried this, January the 23rd. - We could have buried this with her. - Oh, no, this is not her. This is not her. Oh, no, it is. - Yeah, it is. - She had a different, she had two husbands. - Again. - Yeah, she was 96. - Curtis family, I apologize. - Oh, wait, you know what intention? - That's not her. - Pop it up on screen here, and we'll end with it today. It is her. - It is. - It's popping up on screen, yeah. - I actually did find it on this. Look at this queen. Oh, she's got a TR on, too. She's got a TR on. Leave this up on screen, and then we'll play the Angel music here to lead us out here on this beautiful woman here. Go to iTunes, rate the show a five star, and leave a quick review. Also, head on over to Spotify. It's just a five star, and you can walk away. - I actually did find a real one. - If you can name another podcast that has been able to successfully fire up a dildo from 1935, a vibrator, then go to that show. - Thelma Catherine. - If not, give us a goddamn five star. - Thelma Catherine Curtis. I found her for real. - RIP. - Yeah. - RIP. - She died 1985, though. This one did. - Well, we had a good story, and then you ruined it. - No, 'cause it's not real. - No one, we're a podcast. We're not fucking Fox News. - How you doing? - Don't tell the truth. How you do anything is how you do everything. So, keep that in mind. And I found a picture over to you. - Well, you already pulled up this one, and fucking-- - I think this one's even better. - Yeah, well, I mean, this is staying with this one. We can say it's her. All old white ladies look the same. - No shit. I was ready to go off air with that, and then you continued on, dude. - It's fine. - Your investigative journalism, for no reason. We had her. Look at this lovely broad. Pop her pick up one more time. That was a nice ending in the show. We all had a happy ending. Wasn't like the end of Titanic. There's only one person on that fucking door. We had the answer. And then Dan ruined it. So. - What are you gonna do? - We'll end with that. - Thanks for having me. - But if you're in the area, and wanna come take a picture of this vibrator, we will keep it on set for the remainder of our existence over here. We appreciate tuning in for Dan through to Anthony Holloway. I'm Ross Patterson. This is the drinking bros podcast go. Not everyone. 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