(Note: This episode is from Tonight with Dr. Steve's special Tuesday livestream.)

The legacy media is flipping out over Trump and Elon Musk’s Christian nationalism. Now, you may automatically be thinking, Trump and Elon are not the most religious guys out there, and of course, in many respects, they’re not, but the woke left is freaking out at how both Trump and Elon are implementing the Project 2025 blueprint for a Christian nationalist takeover of DC!

In the second part of this episode, I chat with Rod Martin on Vance's 'Ordo Amoris' remark which sparks heated theological debate. Rod is a world-renowned professional. He is the founder and CEO of Martin Capital and is a technology entrepreneur, investor, and futurist. He is famous for his involvement with the founding of PayPal. We explore the nuances of Vance's interpretation, the biblical foundations of love, and the implications of such perspectives on contemporary Christian ethics.

Check Out Rod’s Substack at rodmartin.org and Rod’s X Profile at https://x.com/RodDMartin

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