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Episode 1317 - The US vs UK With Triggernometry Podcast

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1h 23m
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29 Feb 2024

Francis Foster, cohost of the Triggernometry Podcast, joins the show to talk about Mitch McConnell stepping down from Senate GOP leadership, how his show got started, the liberal response to Brexit inside the United Kingdom, the UK’s immigration problems and problems with Islamism, and how Meghan Markle locked down Prince Harry.


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"Yeah, I've never felt more British and I feel in Texas, like, genuinely, when I go, because I'm a pussy and I have mokas, basically, as a coffee." "And no one understands, I say mocha, they're like, what are you saying? Like, they don't get it, so, yeah, but it's lovely to be here." "What is it, is it just like, chocolate milk with coffee on it?" "Yeah, it's basically glorified chocolate milk." "That's all it is, but at least that's pretty American, because you're gonna get diabetes, 300 pounds." "Look, I know other countries have diabetes, but nobody's got it like we do." "Sure don't, we're number one, dude, America's number one." "As a matter of fact, just south of your San Antonio is literally the fattest city on earth." "So it's the third fattest city, by population, or by per capita, in the United States, and then it is the seventh largest city in the United States." "What's the number one largest city in the United States?" "Well, by fat?" "Yeah, it's, but the number one is some, like, small place in Mississippi, I think, they're all in the south." "It's all fried, it's all fried food, fried ochre, catfish, all of it. It's delightful, but you're gonna be 3,000 pounds." "There are more fat people in San Antonio than any other city on earth, because other countries don't have fat retards like we do." "You know, you guys are starting to catch up a little bit." "Yes, we do, but we're nowhere near as good as you. You guys are the elite level. All we do in my country is copy." "I am starting to see more rascal scooters in England, which is upsetting." "What's a rascal scooter?" "It's the thing that people drive, the little scooter." "I fucking hate it." "It's too fat, so you've got to ride a little rascal scooter to get around." "Show him a fucking fat dummy on a rascal scooter." "Or just the rascal scooter. You'll know what this is as soon as you see it. It's an American staple here." "It's like I've seen this at every Walmart." "It's an individual golf cart for fat retards." "It's great, dude, look at that." "I've got, there's a mate of mine who's a very funny comedian called Simon Evans, and he calls them a B-sicles." "Oh, it's true. How much do you follow American politics, by the way?" "I'll follow it pretty closely, yeah." "Okay, so cocaine Mitch, Mitch McConnell just stepped down as the head of the GOP today, about what, two hours ago? You wreck in there?" "Finally gone after, how many fucking years has this guy been in there?" "I don't know how long he's been the Senate leader, probably since...was it Orrin Hatch, the Senate leader before him, Bob?" "I don't remember, who cares?" "Yeah, it's one of those..." "It's one of those things where you're 80 fucking two years old, you've been in there for 50 years, like I'm all good, get the fuck out of there." "That was the only thing that has ever united Twitter, which when Republicans and Democrats today was the celebration of Mitch McConnell going down." "No, it's not true, there was another thing that united, both Democrats and Republicans and Libertarians, everybody is the fact that Jeffrey Epstein blatantly didn't kill himself." "That's true, but we moved on so quickly from that, that it was just like, alright, cool." "Yeah, now it's one of those things where people say it, it's kind of like a knock-knock joke where you're just like, alright man, yeah, it's Epstein, I know Epstein didn't kill himself." "Yeah, so if you're doing that tonight, you can scrap that from the pit." "I'm just saying, if you're doing that mothership tonight, you can scrap it." "But it's one of those odd things that everybody's moved on from, we never got the logs, we never got the book, we never got all the books." "Look, we never got all the cool shit that we were supposed to get, and those pedophiles are out fucking, you know, 16 year olds as we speak, so we never got anything from it." "And that's what America does, also better than England, is hide shit." "I don't know, like you're talking about Peter Files, listen, Mike, you know, my, my, my mom's Venezuelan, right, and when, when the whole, like, have you heard of a guy called Jimmy Savile?" "No, I don't believe so." "So let me explain who Jimmy Savile was, Jimmy Savile was the most famous TV presenter in the whole of the UK on the BBC, which is a state, there you go, there's a man who knows Peter Files." "Yeah, I know you're talking about that." "Well, he's, you know, they can smell their own." "Yeah, sure can." "Yeah, and anyway, so Savile had connections right the way up to the royal family, right the way through society, and he worked to the BBC, so our taxes basically failed." "So there was a documentary about it, and my mom was watching it, and she looked at Savile, then looked at my dad, then looked at Savile and was like, this is an English disease." "And it kind of is, man, like we do the whole Peter Files thing better than you." "Yeah, that's true, is that him right there? There we go, yeah, he looks familiar." "Yeah, I bring this up from time to time, but there was a study at Stanford, I think it was in 2012 or 13, and they showed 5,000 people, 1,000 pictures I think is how it went, of just dudes, gay dudes and straight dudes, and 83% of the time people were accurate on guessing gay or straight, just on facial features. So I think, if you look at somebody and like that's a pedophile, you're probably right, I think." "Exactly." "Which is why we brought here today." "Exactly, we've got Chris Hanson out, which is coming, we got the Austin PD that's going to come in and grab this guy, we do not want him performing tonight." "Listen, I was a teacher for 12 years, so I mean, you know what I mean?" "What grade?" "I taught high school, and I taught primary." "How do you do it? How do you do it?" "What are they seniors, like were they 18 years old?" "Somewhere 18, yes, I was in high school right the way through to 11 to 18, and the fact that, you know, that's why we don't have guns in my country, because if we had guns you'd fucking kill those little pricks." "Yeah, now you just got a knife on my desk, or something with a cricket bat or something, I don't know what it is." "Yeah, yeah, because the reason we stab people is because unlike you, we don't mind a bit of physical exercise." "Yeah, nailed it dude, you gotta go out and knife people in the streets out there, that's all you got." "Yeah." "Has any student ever hit on you or anything like that?" "No, no, no, no, no, and do you know that I never understood those teachers who wanted to be friends with their kids?" "You always got those teachers, to me that was a fucking creepiest thing I could ever imagine." "Why would you want to be friends with a 12-year-old?" "If you saw that person trying to like hang out with 12-year-olds and they're in their 30s, you'd report them." "Yeah, that's true, it's totally fucking true." "I don't even want to be friends with the people I'm friends with now, that are adults, much less than dumb-ass kid." "I know, I couldn't do it, but you see it all the time, we see it in America all the time." "Because Dan and I cover these stories where there's all these hot teachers who are fucking their students over here, I don't know if you've heard about it, and then they're getting arrested." "The last one was so fucking wild, so the dad was in on it, he knew that-" "Wait, was he a cuck?" "No, was he involved in something?" "Well, Bob, do you want to pull up the picture of him?" "We did this story on RPR, maybe a month or two ago, and it was wild, so the dad, the kid was 16 years old or 17 years old, and he was banging his hot, hot teacher." "And his dad was like, 'Alright, man, if you need my bed, you can do it.'" "Oh, his dad, correct." "Yeah, I would be the only thing my child, my male 16 to 18 year old child would get for me is a fucking high five, and a crisp hundred dollar bill to take her out to dinner." "Hang on it, she's hot." "No shit!" "How does she?" "Did this work tired? She's like 24 years old." "24 years old." "Yes." "That's not even bad, that's a public service." "Dan, do you want to hear the saddest part?" "What happened?" "The 16 year old was a Jody." "Oh, she was married to a military guy?" "Yeah." "That's not shocking." "Wow." "What's not shocking?" "Why is that not shocking?" "Because women who marry dudes in the military fuck other dudes." "Yeah." "Like Nikki Haley, for example." "Yep, Headboard Haley." "Headboard Haley." "Hey, her nickname is Headboard Haley." "What is that?" "Yeah, I made that on the show." "Because you know, just like Trump makes up weird nicknames for everybody, and I thought Headboard Haley, why not?" "Because she does." "There's two sworn affidavits from dudes who fucked her while her husband was deployed." "Really?" "Yeah." "She's not great for her political career, but it all worked out." "A condimation is." "Is this the dad?" "This is the dad." "Yeah, of course, that's what he's saying." "Yeah, brother." "Get this guy round of applause." "Yeah, you better try one of these, son." "Make sure you're not a fucking pussy." "You want a little sip?" "I got a little sip for you." "So this is the guy who said, "Look, I know that you're banging the hot teacher." "You can use the house to do it." "And they even had a hot tub out back." "We went through this guy's house extensively." "It was one of those, you know, you kind of buy it off of Craigslist hot tub." "The inflatable ones, yeah." "That's a trailer that he's living in." "Ahh!" "That's a mobile home, my friend." "It's tough to save from the pictures." "No, no, bring that picture back up with a dude that we were just looking at." "And zoom in on it." "That's a fucking trailer." "You can see the goddamn corrugated metal." "Look at it." "That's a trailer." "They made his garage, dude." "No, that's not his garage, it's his fucking front porch." "Oh shit, is it Bob?" "Yes!" "Are you blind? Look at it." "I absolutely." "If it was like a garage, maybe that was his man cave." "No, nobody gets a fucking double wide for their man cave." "Bob, what state did this happen in?" "Missouri." "There you go." "It was not too far from Leonard Wood, I believe." "We probably could have given you like two guesses and you would have." "Yeah, I hope he's that dude, he doesn't even look that old." "No, he's not." "I think he's as late 30s." "He is, yeah." "So he said he was late 30s, so he had his kid when he was 13?" "Probably 18, we guessed." "Yeah, the kid's 16 or 17." "Oh, the kid's 16, right, okay, right, got you, got you." "Yeah." "Do you do the age in meters, too?" "I'm kidding." "That was very funny." "That was very funny." "I just can't believe that, and what was he watching?" "They were doing it while he was there." "I think there's probably any cam situation." "Yeah, yeah." "Here's what I said." "Or maybe he's just a bro, to be honest, if I'm not even kidding, if my 16 to 17 year old kid was banging an older woman, there's nothing I would do to stop him from that." "There's no damage as being done to a 16 year old boy for fucking a hot 24 year old, no damage as being done." "Maybe he peeks, and he doesn't try hard later in life, but you can deal with that." "You can deal with that, like dude, if you did that when you were sick, that's a matter of parenting." "If you fucked her when you were 16, imagine what you can do when you have money." "Yeah, it's like those athletes who have one great season, their first season is incredible." "But as long as you turn into a big long-term contract, who cares if you suck the rest of the time?" "You still got paid, son." "Yeah, you're fine, and Francis, this is one of those things that happens in one of my best friends growing up, so I can tell you what happened in the whole relationship and all of it." "I didn't know whether you're talking about the athlete or the fucking teacher." "Okay, cool, let's do that." "I'm white, so are you, the athlete part is not going to happen for any of us." "I'm actually half Latin, believe it or not." "Are you really?" "Yeah, what do you think about while we'll give it to a later?" "We'll get into it later, so the only danger in it, to be honest with you." "I stayed friends with him through high school and all that stuff." "I caught him 10 or 15 years later, and this girl was so fucking hot, it was his babysitter." "It wasn't his teacher, it was his babysitter, correct." "And it started in ninth grade, and then continued for like two and a half years." "I mean it just got out of control, I mean in a great way." "But what happened was, he got older, he got fat, he got white, he got obviously very American at that point." "And I ran into him at a bar, and he was just super depressed." "Man, that was the greatest time of my life." "And now I'm married to somebody that doesn't even look remotely close to her." "His kids suck, he's got a shitty job." "And he's just like, man, I am, what do you say exactly?" "He's like, I'm your definition of middle-class American dad right now." "I peaked so early that my life has been shit since." "And I was like, God damn, that's dark." "Wow!" "Do you have her number or how does she still look?" "How old is ninth grade?" "15." "14, 15, yeah." "15, how old was a babysitter?" "She was at the time 26, and then the relationship went two years, so I think it capped out at like 28, and then he was 17." "Yeah." "And because at that point, what happened with that point was the parents were like, "Hey, we don't need to hire a babysitter for you anymore." "You're 16, you're about to turn 17 years old, like you're all good to be left alone." "And he was just like, I don't know, man, I'm still feeling scared." "So she wasn't on the payroll anymore, and then they tried to, you know, have a go of it outside of not being a babysitter." "And it went to shit, man, and I felt bad for him in that moment for real." "I bought his drinks." "I can believe it, and also like, you know, there's a whole roleplay element there." "What is it?" "You know what I mean, the roleplay element, you know, she's a babysitter, he's the guy, you know, that kind of, once those roles no longer exist, what do you do?" "Well, he didn't get diped up or anything, so I wasn't like she was putting a diaper on." "As far as you know." "Yeah, that's true." "You got to evolve, like he becomes the dad, and she's still the babysitter at that point, right?" "Like, that's his fault for not embracing the new role he's in, in my opinion." "Yeah." "Like, you're a fucking professional dude, go out there and do your fucking job." "And your job is to obviously fuck that hot, older lady." "Exactly, but last I heard, she was married and live in a normal life." "Here's the thing, though, that woman being married means nothing." "Because if she did what she did with him, she'd do it again, 100 percent." "Oh, yeah." "Like, that people don't change." "Yep." "She would do that, 100 percent do that again." "So, yeah, if you don't mind finding her number for me." "I'll fucking pretend to be whatever, I'll shave." "I'm going to be honest with you, if she's into, like, younger looking dudes, you ain't the demographic." "No, I'm old as shit." "Well, so is she now, though?" "Like, she's got to be, let's see, yeah, she's got to be in her 50s." "Yeah, sure." "You've got to be in her 50s." "At this point now, yeah." "Yeah, 'cause you're as long as I'm here." "You're what, like, six." "I just turned 34 last week on Sunday, so super young, obviously." "And then you being British, I have no idea how old you are." "I'm 41." "Cause all you guys look like John Oliver." "Yeah, I do look like John Oliver." "John Oliver with brain damage, but John Oliver nevertheless." "I think he might have actual brain damage." "So do I." "Do you like him?" "It's a different kind of brain damage." "John Oliver, to me, represents that kind of British guy who, like, went to the right school, went to the right university, has all the right opinions, and you're just like me, it's just really boring." "I agree, I agree." "You know, at one point it was counter-cultural, but now you're just basically glorified establishment stooge." "Yeah, and he's leaned in and signed the big deal with HBO. I think for him it was a smart move to extend that contract because late night TV is dying over here." "Yeah." "I don't know how it is over there. I saw, I think it was Graham Norton just stepped down." "Yeah, yeah. He's getting out of there. I don't know who's left late night-wise for you guys, or is that kind of gone as well?" "There's a guy called Jonathan Ross who has been on TV since the 80s, and he always had a huge show. But the reality is that that entire model is dying. Every time I speak to people from TV, they all say the same thing to me, which is, no one's watching. The figures that we put out, they're not actually real. They're even lower. The advertisers are all bailing on it. The entire model, it doesn't work anymore. Everybody knows it, but the people who have invested in it, who have been in it for x amount of years, they don't want to admit that this business doesn't work." "But that's fucking stupid." "Of course it is." "That's really stupid because people still want the content. They just don't want it at 11.30 at night." "Yeah." "So if you go to business school, if you get an MBA or something, one of the first lessons you'll learn, I think I've mentioned this on the show before, one of the first lessons you'll learn is about the railroad industry and how they lost everything when trucks came around. And the reason was because they thought they were in the railroad business and what they were really in was the shipping people and goods, right? So they should have taken all of their net revenue for the first 10 years of automobile's existing, put it into truck shipping. And they would own 18-wheeler trucking. They would own it. Nobody else, it would have been a monopoly at that point, right? But they were fucking myopic and they didn't do it. And that's what's happening right now with network television and with all--everybody but the streaming services and even they're not doing well. None of them turn a profit, right? No, I haven't figured it out. They're still working on the old--we talk about this a lot because he's done many, many movies. They still work on the same business pro forma as old school television and film, but now streaming doesn't generate that kind of ad revenue. It doesn't. Even with the fucking subscription fees, it doesn't generate anywhere near the amount of ad revenue, so actors can't get paid $20 million for a movie anymore. It can't happen. That's not a working business model. Unless it's an age of Ultron or some new Avengers fucking movie. Those are the only ones that make any money anymore. That's because of the Asian audience, right? It's not even because of us. You're down to like probably five actors, five or six that can command that type of salary. Tom Cruise, Keanu Reeves, probably. I don't know who else. Female-wise, I'm not Julie Roberts anymore. Vin Diesel, The Rock, maybe Kevin Hart, that's kind of it. Did the movie with The Rock and Kevin Hart bomb horrifically? Oh, yes. What was it called? Central Intelligence. Yeah. It wasn't great. And then getting ahead of it for the rest of it, Kimmel, two days ago, just said, "I think when this contract's up, I'm out of there." Which is saying, "Hey, the network wants you out of there, so there won't be another one. He's got two years left on his deal." And then they just announced today that Jimmy Fallon, they're going to do a huge two-hour special for his 10 years on TV, which means, "Oh, man, we're going to show you the door in a couple years afterwards." But I'm probably saying feeling sorry is a wrong way of putting it, but if you're doing these late night TV shows in an era where if you step out of line in whatever way you could get cancelled, if you make a particular type of joke, it doesn't matter what the joke is. Someone's going to be offended. Someone's going to get pissed off. You're going to be put into some kind of public storm where your racist, sexic, transphobia, or whatever it may be. You can't do comedy. You just simply can't do comedy in that type of environment. It doesn't matter how funny you are. What are you meant to do? What are you meant to joke about? Oh, Trump's orange. Oh, great. Yeah, we've heard that joke a million times since 2015. I want to switch over to your podcast here because this will kind of lean into that. You've been able to do this. We own this media company. We have about 12 shows underneath our banner and all that stuff. But you've been able to do this, this trigonometry with massive subscribers here. It is a huge podcast. But you have very little social media following and same as us, by the way. We don't either. Well, Constantine has a diesel in, I think. So he's had a couple of rants, if you want to call it, that goes super hyper-viral. But with that, is it just about the concept? Because we've done a show, maybe two or three months ago, we were kind of talking about podcasts and the concept of it. How did you guys form and how did this all start and become so massive? I mean, you're heading to a million subscribers on YouTube, which is fucking incredible these days. Yeah, thank you. So the way it started was in 2018, what happened was we were in the throes of Brexit. So for people who, listening who were watching or not have a favorite, Brexit was a vote that we had a referendum in 2016, where we were asked whether we wanted to leave the European Union as a country. 52% of people voted to leave the European Union. As a result of that, the country was thrown into political chaos. The prime minister at the time, David Cameron, resigned, saying that this would be a political suicide, an economic suicide, and he didn't want to be at the helm of a country going through what he effectively described as self-harm. And then we got another prime minister in, called Theresa May, who was like, "Oh, I'm going to deliver Brexit," right? He was Labour, she's Tory, right? No, no, no, he was a conservative and she was a conservative, right? Okay, okay. But she was pro-remain as well, so she was trying to fudge the whole thing. And as a result of that, and partly, tensions were so high, like relationships ended because of Brexit, friendships ended, families were torn apart because of this issue, and it was just really toxic. So, we were also being fed a narrative, which is everyone who voted for Brexit is a stupid, thick, racist, white man. Wait, so you guys just copied the Trump thing? Yeah, you're going to say we're going to say narrative! I'm going to say narrative! Exactly. We're the Spider-Man moment. Yeah, exactly. That is exactly what happened. It was our Trump. Actually, it was before Trump, and then you elected Trump, right? And then everyone went, "See? The Nazis are coming to power, but anyway." And then, yeah, I know. And then we, both myself and Konstantin, you know, I'm still a stand-up, we're just looking around going, "What the hell is going on?" Because my dad is a white, as you would say, a blue-collar dude who married a South American woman from Latin America in the 70s, and in the 1970s, when we had a very real problem with racism in the UK. And I knew that he was a racist, but he voted Brexit and so did my mum, first generation immigrant. So that was the jumping-off point where we were going, "Pardon me, you knew your dad was racist?" Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I knew my dad wasn't racist. Oh, okay, gotcha. Who is racist then? Who is racist, like... Well, he was saying England in general, how a problem... Oh, England in general, gosh, you gotcha, gotcha, okay, apologize. In the 1970s was a pretty, but now it's a very tolerant, liberal country. And I just knew that the narrative that we were being painted by the mainstream media was actually false. There was something else going on. And that's where we started, was talking to people who voted for Brexit and going, "Why did you vote for Brexit?" Because also as well, you had the media going, "Everybody who voted for Brexit is right-wing." But that's actually false as well, because there is a whole part of the left in the UK who are all pro-Brexit. In fact, you would call the old-school left sort of our Bernie Sanders, guys. They are all pro-Brexit because they're like, "You know, if we have open borders with the EU, then what effectively happens is that workers' wages get depressed." Correct, yeah. By the way, that was one of the reasons for NAFTA was so unpopular with Clinton back in the day. And all the left, the right wanted the left hated him for it because it drove labor wages down. That's a pretty common thing, to be honest. Yeah, and so these guys were, as well, they were either ignored or said that they're not real left, which was bonkers, to be honest with you. So that's how it started, and we started to have these conversations. And as a result of that, because really nobody was having those conversations in the way that we were, which is very relaxed. So we weren't misrepresenting people. We weren't, you know, butting in. We weren't trying to, you know, derail a conversation. We were just saying to people, "Look, you voted for Brexit, or you did this, why?" And then we had our first, a real viral moment was in 2019, where we interviewed a gender-critical feminist called, her name is Kelly J. Keene. She goes by Posey Parker online, and we talked about the trans issue. And she was saying why the trans issue is a very real problem for women, and it really affects women, and it means that essentially women's rights are getting decimated. And that was the first time anybody had ever had a long-form discussion about this issue. Now that went super viral. YouTube got it taken down for hate speech. Really? Yes. And did you write a response to them? Because we've gone through this as well. And you don't hear anything for, you know, four or six weeks or whatever it is. And then it's just a generic description that's kind of AI that just says why they're not putting it back up. In your case, did they put it back up, or did they remove it entirely? Well, here's what it got where it got really interesting. So what happened is it became a freedom of speech issue because actually she wasn't saying anything that was derogatory. She was just talking about the issue in very simple plain language. And there was a public outcry. And then it got into the press, the UK press, and then everybody started talking about it, and then people started tweeting and adding YouTube and going, "Hey, what's going on here?" Including really big name accounts, really famous journalists. And as a result of that, YouTube then reinstated the interview. And then that went viral. And that got someone like 1.5 million views. Oh shit. So that was the first kind of real moment. And then Constantine, before that, he turned down a contract at a university gig where they wanted him to not make jokes about basically anything. And he turned that down. That went viral as well. So we've had these moments where we've basically touched on a hot button issue. But we don't do it in a way to misrepresent or to do it in a way to be controversial. We just think it's important to have conversations with people and to allow people watching to make up their own mind. We don't patronize people. I think something differently to Constantine. We disagree about quite a few things. We agree on other things. But that's what it means to be an adult. I don't understand how we got to the point where everybody has to think the same thing. It's weird. Think about the kind of people that feel that way though, that's always insecurity in their position. Anybody that's secure in their position doesn't mind being challenged on it. But if you challenge somebody on a weak position they hold, they usually get angry about it for some reason. I don't know. That's a very bizarre way to respond. A lot of it I think is just we had this shared epistemology for a very long time as human beings. There is a very wide group of facts that we all agreed upon. Through the lens, maybe we saw them somewhat differently. But there was a jumping off point at least. That has been more so than any of the other things that are being targeted right now from masculinity to capitalism to just independent thought in general. I think that the epistemology is being attacked more than anything else. To me that feels like somebody who's been in war and studied war history, that feels like battlefield preparation. There's only one reason you do something like that. It's to weaken the resilience and resolve of whomever you're trying to attack. Like divide and conquer. If they're trying to divide you then it follows that they would be trying to conquer you. But who's they and what exactly are they trying to conquer? I think it's just the human mind in general. We talked about this all over the last couple of years. You don't necessarily have to hack voting machines to hack people's fucking brains. Oh absolutely. It wasn't just people think that this is just an American problem. It wasn't unique to the United States. Britain went through this as well in a big way. The EU is finally getting around to overhauling its immigration policy. But for years their policy was you have to accept each country in the EU. You have to accept 150,000 illegal immigrants every year. Holy shit. Every country in the EU had to do that. Could England? Yes. Now they're dropping it down to 30,000 and if you don't accept them you have to pay 20,000 euro per person that you don't accept. To the EU to rehouse them somewhere else. Wow. What the fuck is that? How are you guys dealing with immigration over there? I mean we're not dealing with immigration. Part of the reason actually, a large part of the reason people voted Brexit is because we had something called freedom of movement. And what freedom of movement is in the EU is that if you are a person from an EU country you have freedom of movement. Which means if you're British you can go and live in Spain. Or you can go and live in Italy or Portugal and that sounds really beautiful and you go what's wrong with that. The problem effectively is that the brightest and best of every country, particularly southern European countries, who don't have very strong economies which I'll come into later. They go, they look around and go, well I'm not going to stay here. Why am I going to stay here when I can go to the UK and quadruple or quintuple my income? And you can't blame them. Anybody would do that. Right. Which would be fine if they were doing what Mexican immigrants to the United States used to do, which is come here, live here, assimilate, become American. Now what they're doing and it's the same thing with Britain, what they're doing here in the States is come here and work for a while, take all that money out of the economy back home because it's worth a hundred times more there. Which that's just you're leeching off of an economy, right? There has to be some value add at some point for it to make sense. Not that you should work for the state or anything like that, but you have to provide some fucking value. Well, that was part of the issue, but the other part of it, the problem was is that so what you effectively had in the EU, it's why even though I voted to remain within the European Union, I kind of think the project as it stands now is unsustainable. So what you have is a brain drain from southern European countries like Portugal, Italy, Greece, et cetera, going to Germany, going to the UK. But they've also got this demented idea, which is the euro. And the euro is a currency where every country within the EU has the euro. And you go, "Oh, well, that's quite good." Well, the problem is you have a country like Greece, which is tourism and exports. So what does that country need? It needs a weak currency. So people want to go there on holiday, drink, you know, have a nice beach holiday for cheap, and so they can sell olive oil and the rest of the stuff for cheap as well. But they can't do that anymore because they've got the euro, which is a strong currency, which is a currency designed for Germany. So Germany is doing great, well, not at the moment, but it was for a long time. And every other country like Italy has been in permanent recession since, I think, like, 2000 or 2001. So you've got these countries which are literally now collapsing economically. You go to certain villages and towns, they're completely empty because everybody's left because you can't live there anymore. That's crazy. A lot of the, like, even in Northern Italy, which was historically resilient to this, a lot of the family wineries have been bought by Chinese conglomerates now, right? Which is, I mean, you know, business is business, but it's a shame that, like, vineyards that have been in people's families for hundreds of years are now owned by some faceless company. You know what I mean? That's fucked up. Well, Ann Heiser Bush here for us in America. What does it Bob? Is it Germany? Is it Germany or Belgium? Belgium, yeah. Belgium owns that and it's our biggest, you know, beer company here in Seltzer and all that other stuff. And it's wild to see when you come to America and you see what's going on at the border, and I know you guys have covered it on your show before. What are your thoughts as somebody who doesn't live here seeing what's going on here in this country? Look, we've got our own problems with the border. So we are a very small country in the UK. We have net migration is now at 700,000 people a year. Good God. Jesus Christ. What's your total population? It's around 68 million now. Okay, that's Jesus Christ, man. Yeah, it's unsustainable. It's fundamentally unsustainable. We don't have control of our borders. We did an interview with the former home secretary. The home secretary is the minister in charge of policing, border control, all of that type of stuff. And we were speaking with them. We're going, what's going on? And she's like, you know, nobody in government wants to deal with this because it's good for the economy to have all these people coming over. It's good for GDP. Why though? Because you still have to find housing, clothes, jobs, food, how would that be good for the economy? Because we've got a labor shortage. We've got a labor shortage. We've got our birth rates of through the floor. We need people to come over and work. So these people come over. You've got ready-made workers. They don't need training. They just come over. They can work. Boom. So the problem solved. And because the people in power, they don't care about things like housing. They own houses. It's ordinary regular working class people, the ones who are struggling to pay rent and the cost of living crisis, which like you've got here, people can't afford to live. So when I see the things like the border, I get really angry. And bear in mind, I am someone like my mom's Venezuelan. You know, where there's a lot of migrants leaving Venezuela because Venezuela is a failed state and they come to America illegally. And I feel sorry for people who, people in my family have had to flee for their lives from the government because they're journalists and they criticize them and whatever else. But you can't have a country without a border. If you have a country without a border, you don't have a country. It's that simple. And by the way, those numbers that rate, we think it's bad in the States, we're getting about two and a half million a year. That's commensurate to England's population. That would be like 4.1, 4.2 million a year if they were our size. Shit. Which is fucked, right? Yeah. But this is going on all over the world. What is the plan in England to stop it? Because in America, we ain't got a plan to stop it. I mean, we have a candidate who says he's going to. Yeah. That's coming up in November, obviously. Whether or not that'll happen, we don't know. But what we've said on this show for a better part of five, six months here, I think for the United States, at least, you should shut down the border for 10 years. I mean, shut it down for 10 years, reset, figure out who the fuck is here, or, you know, mass deportations, or whatever it is. As Theo Vonta get a head count and this motherfucker. Exactly. That's what it says. That's funny. But we've said this on the show for a while here. Why is everybody so against this when it's just simple protection of your border? Because they want a global state. They want a global state. But England too? Does England want a global state too? No, I see. Horace Johnson does. I would see. I would disagree with that. And I think that all these people care about is the economy. Is the economy? It's GDP. So they don't actually care about the societal impact. They don't actually care that, you know, it affects people's ability to find a school, find, you know, get a doctor's appointment. So we have an NHS system, which is socialised healthcare rather like Canada. You can't get a doctor's appointment. There are people now. The death rate in Scotland is the highest it's been in 50 years. And a large part of that is people just don't get seen for cancer appointments, heart appointments, all of this. And by the time they get into the system and get to the point where they get seen, it's too late. There's stage four, stage five. It's like, I'm really sorry. And it's a tragedy. And they don't care because all they want is, and all they think about is the economy and it's GDP. And that was pretty much what was told to us. Like she put it more diplomatically than that. And she was like, look, you're going to have to say, you know, this home secretary, the interview is now live. Like, you know, you have to ask Rishi Sunak, our prime minister and blah, blah, blah. But that was pretty much the only explanation. Is it's they all they think about is terms of economy and GDP. Well, why Dan was saying this. What'd you call it again? The global. It's a global state. Yeah, the global state. And I understand why you say it all the time because I feel the same way. It feels like they want us all to be living in apartments, renting, not owning anything. They've jet like like right now, just because the interest rate is so high. We buy a bunch of trucks for the company, use it for tax purposes and things like that for production. The interest rate is so high on a car. I just had to get one for an employee of ours a couple of weeks ago. I walk in and I was like, Hey, dude, what's the best option here? And he goes, you know what? We're we're jacking up these leases. So they're no longer three years. It used to be a minimum of like three years over here and get one for two. You can get one for four and get one for different things. And it was like, cool man, why the fuck would I get a lease for four years? And they're like, Oh, we're offering a deal on the interest rates, you know, because the interest rates are so high. And I was like, Okay, but then I pay off three force of the car and then I don't own the fucking car at the end of it. And they were like, Yeah, but you can just trade it in and get another lease. It feels like that's where they're pushing you this entire generation is get ready to rent the rest of your life and not own a house. Get ready to lease a car for 15 fucking years over and over and over again and never own anything. Yeah, I mean, it could be the problem could be that no system of government scales indefinitely, right? That might be what we're running into as well. And that's been economists have worried about that for a long time. Murray Rothard, who's like the Austrian libertarian economist, right? The guy that everybody goes to think about these sort of things. Has warned about or warned about this all through the 60s, 70s and 80s. It's like there's a point of diminishing return on anything. So think about the country as a company, right? You're talking about having labor shortages and shit like that or revenue goals or whatever the hell they have. Sometimes, and especially in a startup, right, which is how most countries operate. They perpetual debt like they operate as a startup most of the time. When you when you have revenue shortfalls, you have to address that issue, whether it's through borrowing or generating new revenue. And it doesn't necessarily matter how you do it. We've done it with the booze company before, right? We just got to get these sales out so we can make money for our next run. That's how the government thinks, right? Correct. So that's what when I say global state, that's what I don't necessarily. I don't think anybody's got the power to do dudes twisting their mustaches in a fucking WAF room. So we're like, oh, we're going to take over the world because there's just too many people and too many guns out there, right? It's just not going to happen. But the gravity of economics will have that effect to some degree, right? And these people, they think of these patricians. They think about it this way. Well, we have to keep the chaos out, right? Chaos is dangerous, which is not what our founding fathers said. They embraced the chaos. This is why we had a great country for a long time. But they want the chaos out so they can keep their jobs so they can keep their power, right? That's where they're thinking. I don't think it's necessarily a villain in a movie twisting their mustache trying to do this shit. I think they're incompetent and they have different goals than working class people do. So we're just falling into this as a society? That's why I like libertarianism a lot because decentralization is almost always the answer to any kind of systemic issue like this. It's almost always the issue or always the solution rather. And then for you, because there's a ton of shit to cover here because you're fascinating. I can talk to you fucking endlessly here. For you personally, we had a vote here last night in our primaries in Michigan. The big story that came out last night in the state of Michigan was all of these Muslim Americans getting together and voting uncommitted last night. And if they were able to get 15%, and Bob, do you know what that number closed at? I stayed up pretty late. 13 and changed. So they didn't get there? No, it was 13, something percent. But they did get over, well, over 100,000 votes of uncommitted there. And they're calling, you know, the strategy was to get 15%, and then that way you could go on the delegate floor and talk about why you voted this way and then how you're going to cast your vote on the Democratic side, right, on the Democratic side. They didn't reach that number. Was this related to Palestine? It was. And so they all got together and had this, they said, we want to ceasefire now. Which is really interesting because not one of the countries any of those people are from will take one goddamn Palestinian refugee. Not at all. 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Support us and support the show. I mean, let's be honest about that guy. He was obviously, and I saw people going, oh, this guy's a hero. I go, no, this guy was mentally ill. He was obviously in desperate need of help. He suffered some severe type of trauma and he needed help. And the fact that he didn't get help meant he degenerated into setting himself on fire. So that, to me, was what happened there. He's not a hero. It's a tragic situation and he was obviously very unwell. Number one. What we've got in the UK is actually terrifying. It's genuinely terrifying in a way I don't think a lot of people understand. So we have, maybe I'm going to get this number wrong when it comes to UK population. 68 million off the top of my head, maybe a little bit more, maybe a little bit less. Do you know how many people are on the police watch list? The police watch list for Islamic fundamentalism. These are people who are known to be a danger to other people's safety. We have 40,000. In England? In the UK? Holy shit. 1,000 that are on police watch list. In 2020, no, 2021, I actually met this man. He's a conservative MP. God rest his soul. It's a David Amos was murdered by an Islamic fundamentalist. We have. Yeah, they cut his head off, right? No, they stabbed him numerous times. It was a man who stabbed him numerous times. Okay. We had the 2017 London Bridge terrorist attack where there was people going out on the streets stabbing people. We had the Manchester, Manchester arena bombings. It was an Ariana Grande concert. Little girls, little girls and Ariana Grande concert who were murdered and. Well, 2013, the British soldier got stabbed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And killed. And this and this and obviously all of that is awful. All of that is awful. But something really terrifying happened last week. So they did vote for the ceasefire. Okay. Who's there? The UK Parliament. Okay. So the way the UK Parliament works is there are two major parties are conservative and Labour and Labour are Democrats. Now, you have the Speaker of the House of Commons. The Speaker of the House of the Commons is the one basically in charge. He's the one keeping order. And he's the one ensuring that, you know, the speeches are held properly and debates are held properly. Roberts rules and orders. Exactly. He broke with the House of Commons Convention. Essentially, tore up the rule book when it came to hosting this particular vote because he was worried about the safety of the Labour Party members of Parliament because of Islamic fundamentalism, because of threats from Islamists. We tore up our rules of the oldest parliament in the world because of concerns of the safety of our members of Parliament from Islamic fundamentalists over a vote. Our democracy is now getting subverted because of these extremists. That is terrifying. And we are not, you know, it was a big story, but it wasn't as big a story as it should be because actually, what that means is that we're in real problems because extremists are now the ones who are dictating what doesn't happen in our society. Well, when you have 40,000 there, that's a lot that you could actually fuck shit up with. That's 40,000 on Watchlist, not including the infrastructure support that they might have, which is, you know, like, I don't like the idea. I hear some people saying about Gaza, well, they voted for Hamas, so fuck them, right? Which is, you know, whatever, that's kind of low frequency, but that was 2006, by the way, that that vote happened. It wasn't recently. But it is the case in the UK that there are certain areas that, you know, the Bobby's don't go to anymore because they're kind of operating just with Islamism, right? It's like, we saw it here in the States too, but it was with white hipsters, it was Chaz and fucking Seattle and then Portland, which nobody really gives a fuck about those guys, but like, you know, extremists, these Muslim extremists, you kind of care about that. Is it as bad as Dan was saying because we read the news over here of what's given to us about it? I mean, it was bad enough that their fucking speaker, the House of Commons, decided to change Robert's Rules of Order, which, by the way, are from what fucking the 14th century or some bullshit is where that started being collected, to just to avoid people getting clipped down the street. But yeah, but as far as neighborhoods and all that other stuff where police aren't going, is that true? As far as I know, that is not true. But what I would say is if you're a gay dude, would you walk down those streets hand in hand with your partner? Absolutely you would not. Absolutely you wouldn't. So the reality is we're in a very, very difficult and situation and the thing that's even more terrifying is you talk to people on the left and I'm somebody who used to identify as being on the left and they talk about Joe Cox. And this is an awful story. Joe Cox was a member of parliament who was murdered by a white extremist, the word doesn't come to me in the moment, but one of those guys, right? White supremacist. White supremacist. That's the one, right? In 2016, an awful case. And they just go back to the murder of Joe Cox and you go, hang on, 90 people have been murdered by Islamic fundamentalists since 2016, 90, 90, and you talk about Joe Cox. Now, obviously it was an awful case and the guy should, and the guy will remain in prison for the rest of his life, awful, but that's what you go back to because all they can talk about is this bogeyman of white supremacy, white supremacy, white supremacy. We don't have a problem with white supremacy in this country. We have a problem with Islamic fundamentalism and people are terrified and they don't want to talk about it. And the cowardice amongst our ruling clerks, it's despicable. It really is because we're never going to solve this problem. Yeah, there's a widely participated in version of modern Islam that is completely incompatible with civilized society. I say this all the time. Like the Saudi Arabia is one of them. 83% of the university or the primary education facilities, there are Madrasas. Madrasas teach fucking Wahabist Islam, which means death to America, death to the West, right? Yeah. And now the Taliban's back in control of Afghanistan. Look, some of the stuff we've created these problems for ourselves, one by dealing with doing business with Saudi Arabia in the first place. The reason Iran hates us so much is because we funded them and Iraq during their fucking war, right? Like we've a lot of this our foreign policy is created, but I don't know. I don't know why anybody won't do anything about it now. It's like does shifting focus? Is it the woke stuff? Are they scared of getting called racist or do they not want to go away from the policy that has made them all very, very rich and powerful? Well, I think what you said earlier, because we're having the exact same problem here. If you come on and say anything against this, you're racist, you're a xenophobe, all that other shit, it's just about protecting your country. And this is where it gets because people can be bigger to it against Muslims. Of course, they can. You can discriminate against someone and that's obviously wrong. But there's this word that is now being used and Chris Christopher Hitchens was brilliant on this. There's this amazing clip, go and find it, just type in Christopher Hitchens Islamophobia. You're accused of being Islamophobic. And you go, well, what is Islamophobia? Because I don't hear that with people talking about Hinduism. I don't hear them talking about Buddhism. I don't hear them talking when it comes to Sikhism, Christianity, just Islam. What is Islamophobia? They say, oh, it's a hatred of Islam. Well, and people, and then they conflate racism with you criticizing the religion of Islam. Islam is a religion. You should be allowed to criticize it, like you criticize Scientology, like you criticize Christianity. It is a set of values and ideas and religious beliefs. But if you criticize it, if you challenge it, if you go, hang on, I don't agree with their views on how much they think of gay people, that's Islamophobic. And the moment that happens, what you have is you have brought blasphemy laws into a country. And that is really dangerous, because that effectively means that you're starting to live in a theocracy where the religion is in charge of what people can and can't say, and society. Well, you know, Canada this week proposed a bill, and I don't think it'll pass, but they proposed a bill that would alter the law on their, what is it, 216 or whatever the fuck it's called, the one that Peterson got in trouble for with University of Toronto. Yeah, compelled speech. Yeah, compelled speech. They're looking to change their hate speech laws to allow for life sentences for bad enough hate speech. I don't know what you have to say to get life in prison. Trans women aren't women? Yeah. We've said it every day. We should be in jail now, like that, you know, if that's the case. But it's interesting to hear that it seems like you guys are going through the exact same problems. We are. All of them to be fair or worse. Because I'll take, let's go back to Brexit. Yeah, because you're surrounded on all sides by other assholes that aren't doing anything good either. Right. And going back to Brexit, it felt like, at least in the American media, that it was just so fucking chaotic and disorganized, and the way you guys vote is so up and down and Boris Johnson was out and then he's back in and everything else. We're kind of going through that with Trump over here, back in and back out. But we also have two sides that will never agree on shit. Like our border policy that's, that is up for funding right now is based on funding to Ukraine and Israel and Gaza right now. And letting a million and a half minimum illegals into the country every year. Correct. And the fucking bipartisan deal is like, I, we're only going to do a million and a half next year. Like, Oh, shit. And we have people on the, on the right and the left over here that are, you know, saying, yeah, this is the best deal we're going to get. It's not great for our country on either side. And I don't know how we correct it unless both government, because we've dinner and I've talked about this numerous times, unless the government resets, you start over and you get all these fucking guys out of here with like Mitch McConnell and all of them today. Is it the same over there or are people too afraid to speak out against it over there? You know, is it like political dynasties plus lobbyists? Cause that's what it is here, I think. What it is, is you, you are, we have a very different, different dangerous situation in the UK where people voted for Brexit to control immigration. Now you can agree, you can disagree, but the way democracy works is that you vote for something, you vote for a set of policies and those policies are then enacted. What we have at the moment is people voting for policies, they're not enacted. And in fact, not only are they not enacted, we're getting the exact polar opposite of that. So people are now starting to look around and go, what is the point of democracy? Exactly. Why? Why would I vote? That's the point of that. And then you start to get into a position where people go, I don't know if we should have democracy. And then you start to get the shadowy figures who live in the fringes of politics, not like Trump or anything like that, and people who say that are just ridiculous. But genuinely, genuine parties that you go, well, there's something funky going on here. You go, oh, they're not listening to you. I will. Yeah. And that's when we, and that's when you're going to actually see political parties that you're going, I heard breath away from being far right, not like the bullshit of Trump and Republican. No, that's literally, and that, look, I'm not calling anybody involved in this Hitler just to be clear, but that is how Hitler became Chancellor of Germany. Yeah. Like, and by the way, talking to the working class, going to beer halls and saying, hey, they won't listen to you, but I will. And that's how that's how he got into fucking power, right? Can I just point out, during the 1930s, there were very strong hate speech laws in Germany. Where are they really? There were very strong hate speech laws in Germany, and, you know, people is centering ahead of the way, you know, people do the speech, you know, the way people spoke. It doesn't stop anything. It doesn't stop anything. If ordinary people are seeing their quality of life, get slowly eroded, generation upon generation, it's harder and harder, and you've got to work more and more just to have less than the people before you, your parents, your grandparents, and then you're openly mocked and derided for being racist and stupid and thick. What do you think people are going to do? Yeah, if they're not racist now, they're sure it should going to be. Oh, yeah. 100% will or something, right? Yeah. I mean, this only goes in one direction, which, again, I think it's very obvious how this works, which makes me think there is some, I don't know about a guiding hand behind it, but definitely people are trying to tip the scales in that direction. And there's only one reason to create division, and that's to take shit over. Yeah, I just think everything is so divided now. I don't know how all these countries, ours included, yours, just don't get overrun by immigration. A lot of our cities are becoming- Well, they already have them. We've got 20 million. That's what I'm saying. So, and you guys don't know if you have this, but this is where I was going with this. We have cities like San Francisco, where businesses- Failed cities, yeah. Failed cities that are- People are just leaving behind. Businesses are leaving behind. Chicago is one of them where they don't have a grocery store, and now the government there wants to open up a grocery store to serve food to the communities and shit like that. And all they're doing is just moving away from the problem, so they're fucking it up. Well, they're not there. And then they're just leaving and moving to another state and then fucking that up just over simple policies. But the state's reaction to that should be very telling. The reaction isn't to solve the immigration problem or solve the crime problem. It's to, well, we'll just have the state provide these things now. That's what the state does. That's why the state shouldn't fucking exist, frankly. I mean, the federal government is fucking pointless. If you feel the same with yours- If the federal government evaporated off the face of the earth today in the United States, would you notice, other than not having to pay taxes- I wouldn't notice until a natural disaster happened to be honest with you. Then we can handle that, so we send about $160 billion more to the federal government here in Texas than we fucking take from them. Yeah. So this idea that Texas couldn't exist if it weren't for the federal government, we get attacked immediately. No, we've got a pretty big military here. We make plenty of money. There are some states that would be kind of fucked. But that then so would Greece, to some degree without the military protection of the countries around it. If Europe is a continent, the Mediterranean in particular would be very under pressure. Anytime any kind of asshole popped up in that region, Hitler, Mussolini, for example, like they just immediately start going north or south and taking shit over. It happens. That's why you make partnerships with other people. We do it at the micro level already. All those unincorporated areas in southeast California, they don't have sheriff's departments or fire departments or anything. They rely on Cal Fire, the state fire department, to do all of their shit, right? And they have something called an MOU and memorandum of understanding that it's basically a contract that says if X happens, you're going to come help us and then we'll pay you for that service, right? That's how you deal with that situation, not build a behemoth federal government that's completely inefficient. I mean, again, none of these systems scale indefinitely, and it's the same for economics, right? No economic system scales indefinitely either. So eventually there is a diminishing return on that investment. The larger it gets, the less efficient it gets, which means it costs you more and more gets wasted, which just opens the door for predatory behavior. And what's the end game for England, you think? Does it ever turn around, in your opinion? Look, the thing that concerns me is that I don't see politicians or I see very few of them willing to tackle this problem and be honest about it. Everybody fudges the issue. Everybody is so terrified of being called racist, Islamophobic, sexist, transphobic. You have a situation now. So the few, the guy who is going to win the next general election because the conservatives are so useless is a man called Secchia Stommer, head of the Labour Party. Last year he was asked what a woman is, he couldn't answer the question. Oh, we had that here with the Supreme Court justice. Yeah. You're a Lamar. Kenji something. Yeah. Kontanji Brown, Jackson. The head, the future prime minister, the head of the Crown Prosecution Service at one time. All right, tough guy. What is a woman dancing? Listen, no one knows what a woman is, until you want to get late, then everyone knows what a fucking woman is. Crocodile done to you. Yeah, sure did. Paul Hogan knew he knew how to check too. Yeah. And you just go, this is how screwed we are as a culture, as a society. I've done so many videos about this case. So the former leader of Scotland is a lady called Nicholas Sturgeon, right? The former leader of Scotland, head of the Scottish National Party, right? There was a man called Adam Graham. Adam Graham is a two-time male rapist. Could the producer please bring up a photo of Adam Graham? Yeah, I'd love to see him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at this Adam Graham. And put Adam Graham in rapist. You got you going Google search on rape? Not to be confused with moonlight Graham from field of dreams, by the way. You're a certain guy. Oh, my God. Let's bring up a picture of him. Look, there's Adam. Look, he's beautiful and he's got a lovely, very feminine tattoo on his face, reminiscent of Mike Tyson that is most demented anyway. So Adam got arrested, charged, and convicted in a court of law for being a two-time male rapist. At which point, he got rapid onset prison gender dysphoria, identified... It's a new condition. Yeah, it's a new condition. It's very tragic. It tends to happen to male sex offenders. And he now identifies as Isla Bryson. Oh, that picture you brought up, is him now? Yeah, that's all right. No, it's not him now. You fucking transphobe. Have some respect, that's a beautiful woman, right? And that's Isla, a beautiful woman, right? And so Isla, because she's a woman now, even though she's a rapist, who raped someone with her penis, was put in a Scottish female prison. Oh, God. Still with the penis on it, they'll lap it off. No, no, no, no, there's a wonderful picture of Isla in a pair of very charming, figure-hugging leggings showing off her magnificent clitoris. Now, as a result... He meant cock as women. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so they put Isla in a female prison. Now, obviously, there was an outcry about this, and they had a debate about whether you should put a two-time male rapist in a woman's prison. And that are one of our most prestigious political debate programs in the UK. It's called Question Time. And what happens is, it's on the BBC, you've got a chair, the person, and then you've got people from either side of the political spectrum left and right. They asked the representative for the Scottish National Party, whether Adam Graham, a two-time rapist, was a man or a woman. You know what this person said? They went, "They're a rapist." They went, "No, no, no, hang on. Are they male or female?" And they went, "They're a rapist." And the entire audience booed them. Why? Like, I don't understand what's wrong with saying what the person is and why they shouldn't be there. Because in the end, the party would say the two plus two equals five and you would be forced to believe it because the logic of the position demanded. It's brave new world, man. It is. 1984. It's all the same bullshit. Is this person currently in the female prison? No, no, no. Unfortunately, there was a horrendous outbreak of transphobia and she was putting a male prison. Oh, man, that's a dude, by the way. Yeah, it sure is. Yes. Just to be clear. Oh, the difference between Isla Bryson and Adam Graham is they went to basically Primark, which is the crappist, you know, bookstore in the UK and they got their nails done. They bought some female leggings and they found a wig and a skip. They're buying into it, though. You keep saying her and they. That's a dude. I know. That's her. That's how they get you. That's a slippery slope, dude. They changed language. Yeah. No, the reason I'm doing that is for comedic purposes, but yeah, but that is exactly it. That is exactly it. And that encapsulates the rot at the heart of our political system where even something as basic as human biology, we cannot be honest about. And if we can't be honest about that, how are we going to be honest about anything else? Thinking speech is about controlling thought because that's what speech is. It's just the out loud version of thought, right? Yeah. And why would you want to control the way people think? It's the same with the written word. I mean, because they're changing textbooks and everything else right now. So it's happening everywhere in different forms. Yeah. Carlings should talk about this with dumb made up words. I think that he went on a rant about marketing words like Hardy and homemade, like homemade on a can. Yeah. That doesn't, that's, nope. Those are the opposites, right? Yeah. That's what happens in human history. It's important to agree or it's important to remember that it's going to be written down in the language we all agree upon. So maybe take that shit seriously and not let somebody come in and fuck with your language too much. No. I agree. I agree. Well, and with some fun stuff though today. We went hard for a while. Well, Randy's raping people. Do you want some fun news, some breaking news? What do you got? What do you got? Richard Lewis died. Oh, what? Why is that? No. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. I know he's dead. Holy shit. How old was he? 76. He was in Ohio State's alumni. No one cares about that. They sure do. They sure do. He was the head of our homecoming there. I met him years ago at that very nice man, best friends with Larry David and all those guys for years. Great comedian back in the day. Hasn't been standing around in a long time. But no, we'll, we'll end it on something, I mean, we, we were trying to do it. Jesus Christ. He broke his back in. I know. I know. Maybe he died from AIDS and that's kind of funny. If it was fentanyl, it'd be great. Yeah. Fentanyl related AIDS. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. No, we'll, we'll talk about what's going on with Kate Middleton. So she's disappeared for two months. I read the story last night and I'm going to ask you if there's any truth to this whatsoever. BBL just keeps popping up here. What's BBL? Brazilian but left. And that's what she went to the fucking hospital for. Got some stomach condition. Potentially at Tommy Tuck, my wife thinks Tommy Tuck, Brazilian butt lift, and maybe a little. A little boop. Yes. Are they done having kids? I would think so, right? She's got to be in her 40s at this point. And he's about to become king. Yep. And she's obviously going to become queen here. So is it for appearances or is there something else going on that the rest of the public is, you know, the first queen of England with fake titties? Yeah. Let's go. That's progress. That is sure is. I don't know if you're a royalist or not, but that would make me one. You guys keep that 15 billion. Yeah. Absolutely. Any truth to that, do you know any insight? No. Look, the thing I find very interesting is this is there's something clearly going on, but it's just not being talked about in the press. Two months. She's been missing. It's been two months and nobody's really talked about it and what's very interesting as well is obviously the press are in on it because there is not a great deal of speculation in the press. They just say, oh, she's been on well. And then everybody's kind of moved on from it. Yeah. Usually the Daily Mail would have like two articles a day wildly speculating about what might happen. Yeah. I mean, your media is worse than ours. Oh, I mean, there is trash. It's all tabloids. Yeah. So one would think they would have been all over this story, but you're right. It's been silence on this and that's led everybody to the speculation that it is this Brazilian butt lift. Maybe she has a two month recover. Maybe she got an Erling. Oh, yeah. That'd be great if she did. No, she comes back as a fucking cyborg and shit. Cyborg and big fake titties. Fucking awesome, dude. That would be a very American slash Japanese. Yeah. And now, dude, do you guys hate Meghan Markle just as much as we do over here? Yeah, we do. We do. Yeah, we do. Why do you feel guilty about it? No, it's because I think she's really hot. Oh, she is. Yeah, she is. She's really hot. But no, you know what? You know what it is? It's just the whining. The absolute whining is like, oh, I don't have any privacy. You married into royalty. What did you expect? I don't know if anybody has been cooked worse by South Park than Harry and Meghan. Oh, man. That was beautiful. I mean, that's what that's one of the best episodes I've ever seen, especially when they're going to the consultant and every fucking list ends with victim. I mean, that's like one of the best things I've ever seen in my life. And that fucking guy, so he flies over, his dad gets cancer, King Charles. He flies over. They have a 24-minute meeting. He gets back on a private jet, flies to Vegas to do the NFL MVP honors. So he comes on stage. I didn't even know there was a goddamn thing. We host an NFL show for Christ's sakes, and this is a made-up award show that has never existed. Yeah. And magically, he's presenting the award for courage for the NFL at the end, and he does not even find anything about the NFL. We couldn't find an American for that, like a veteran or somebody like our police officer or somebody. But the worst part about it is, I think it was Cam Hayward, his kid, Jr. for the Browns or something like that. Either way, he gets on stage and starts fawning over and is like, I can't believe I'm getting an award from Prince Harry. What the fuck has Prince Harry done? Well, technically he's not a prince right now, right? No. Well, that's the rumor. But the interesting thing with Harry is that he's so monumentally dumb. He's so dumb that to everybody else, they look at Meghan, she's actually quite smart, and she is manipulating him all the way, and everybody can see it. It's like, you know, he starts regurgitating all this woke stuff, it's like, Harry, you don't even know what the word patriarchy means. You know what I mean, but he's just regurgitating it. So I actually kind of feel sorry for him because he's in out of his depth. He's got a woman who's much better looking at him and much smarter than him. And she's controlling everything. So there comes a point where you go, like you've alienated your family. He was the most popular one in the royal family. Everybody in the UK now thinks you're an idiot. Look, where are you going to go from here? You're not smart enough. You've got no personality. What are you going to do? I'm not a family because this isn't new. This has been happening to European royalty since the beginning of Europe. Some the second child, the second in line to the throne, the spare has always been preyed upon by some fucking cunt whispering in his ear, oh, you know, it should be you, it should be you always. You know, that's the reason why many royal families, they kill the spare. Yeah, dude. You just, because it's too much of a risk, it's too much of a risk because you go like, you have no purpose. And actually you're heavily incentivized to do the dirty. Yeah. Which is what he's done. I Alexander the Great's mom did that to his half sister. She clipped his half sister and then his stepmom killed herself afterwards just because she didn't want there to be any interruption to the line of succession. Despite the fact that his dad had tried to have him kill him like 10 years brighter. I feel like I managed to water under the bridge. Water under the bridge. So with Meghan, my wife hates Meghan Markle more than life itself. Yeah. But we watched that doc on Netflix, which was the most watched doc in the history of Netflix, by the way. More than Tiger King? Yes. It's not, it wasn't even close. And because you had the world, well, you have the world, the Tiger King was more America, right? I don't know. I feel like it translates. But we love Titan King in the UK because that's who they think the average American is. Sure. Sure. Yeah. But with Meghan Markle watching Austin Powers or something like that's an English guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We watched this fucking thing and it was like six parts or whatever it was. And even at the end of my life, we're just like, God damn it, dude. She's never looked unattractive in one single fucking frame of this thing. And they, she's crying. She's in a fucking bathtub. She's in black and white photos. She's still so goddamn hot that you're just like, all right. Well, she probably cries in front of the mirror to get it right. Oh, absolutely. Yes. Right? Easily. Easily. And he's being manipulated the entire time. I just want to know, like, you know, like my ex said, like she must have a magic pussy. Oh, yes. It's got to be incredible. The moment you put it in, you're like, I would do everything and anything to just get back here again. Yep. I 100% agree. There's got to be like a baby hand in there or something like something we don't know that she was born with because to get him, that's one of the ultimate catches in the world. And keep him. Yes. I mean, that's the world. Yeah. And that's a big boy move. He was forced to something like a real estate agent here for Christ six. So it's not like he was anything to get the prince. You got to trade up sometimes. Good luck doing it, man. It's just so hard to get to that fucking guy. Um, you know, she did it. She did. There's only two people I can name. Hilaria Baldwin and, uh, and her who just targeted one person and executed it properly. What about, um, you know, Grace Kelly, because she married, she married into royalty. She married into the crown prince of Monaco, wasn't it? Yeah. Back then, and this is just my, my personal thought on Grace Kelly is, uh, that was a global movie star at the time. Yeah. And she was famous around the fucking world and it was Grace Kelly. Yeah. It was only two or three Grace Kelly's in the world. Never half of a Maryland though. Although she did fuck JFK. She got JFK. Yeah. And she got RFK. I mean, she got the most, you know, powerful people on the planet. Um, and, uh, with her, I think it was the same type as Sitch, even with onassis, uh, Jackie. And, you know, she, Marie married in an oasis and everything else. And you can move on there. There's very few women who have done it and you almost have to kind of applaud it where you're like, holy shit. Politically, like soft, some, some, a hike married that billionaire. Yeah. But I don't know. Yeah. I think that was probably. Yeah. That was probably him coming after her. Exactly. I don't think she has ever chased a man in her life. No. And I, she's still hot now. She's like 60 fucking years old. I think he wrote that check and when she's like, is this good enough? Yeah. I'm going to put a billion in escrow. Yeah. Are we good? We can have the dust till dawn, pussy the rest of my life. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you like that, that's why you become a billionaire. That's why you weren't. That's the only reason. Yeah. That's why you killed that many people. So you can get some a hike and you go, right, we're going to do the dust till dawn moment. Yeah. Get the plastic snake out. I actually get a real snake. Get a real snake. Grab a bottle of tequila and you can suck it off my feet just like Quentin Tarantino. Exactly. Every night. Every night? Yeah. An alarm goes off. George Clooney walks through the front door. It's like, wait in the corner, George. Yeah. We're sucking on our feet today. I will be jacking off sucking on feet here. Now's the point of the show we get to this thing called the drinking bro the week, which is someone who has inspired you or helps you become the person you are today. Who would you like to give the drinking bro the week to? The person that inspired me to become the person I am today is actually a show. It was a show called Opian Anthony. Oh, I was just on his show two or three months ago. Yeah. I remember watching it as a circuit comedian back in the day and going, oh, this is the future. This is a future of entertainment. This is actually what it's going to be like in the next 10 to however many years. Watching Patrice, watching Bill Burr, watching Rogan on there. Yeah, they've lost so many careers, man. For what Rogan does for standard comedians now, Opian Anthony did that for Florentine and even Rogan himself to some degree, although he had some popularity of a lot of guys. Yeah. Have you been on an Anthony? No. I've never been on an Anthony show. I'll give you the number. You want to go on Anthony Kumiya show. It's great. Okay. It's just as crazy as I can say what the fuck you want. Yeah. And like he was popping up titties during the show. Ha ha. I was like, all right. Cool, man. We're doing this. Yeah. So it's a fun time. Yeah. Yeah. We'll connect after this for sure. Tell everybody we were at tonight. The mothership I'm doing Christina and friends at the mothership is going to be a great night and Christina P. Christina P and friends. And then I'm doing another show. I think it's at the creek in the cave at 10 o'clock. Check out my socials at Francis J. Foster on Instagram, Twitter and my podcast called Trigonometry. Yeah. It's a fantastic podcast. You're one of the best doing it these days and we're happy to stop by the show. Yeah. We had a couple of requests though. Could you say the words governor and then Tuesday? Tuesday. Okay. That's pretty clear. Yeah. That's not bad. And the way you say is governor? Nope. Governor. Governor. Yeah. Hey. So they're remaking everything or we're going to see another Eliza do a little movie anytime soon. Oh, probably man. It's probably going to be black. She's going to be black trans. Eliza do a little. Let's do it. Lila Davis. But can you do that without a being racist? Can you have a black trans girl that's speaking ebonics like a dude and they're trying to turn it into a proper lady or you have to go the other direction? Actually, they're probably going to cast Isla Bryson, man. Gotta get him out of jail first. Free Isla. Yeah. Free Isla. Hashtag. Yeah, exactly. Thanks for tuning in kids. Go to iTunes, rate the show of five star and leave a quick review. Also head on over to Spotify. It's just a five star and you can walk away. You fat lazy rascal Americans. For Dan through the day, Anthony Holloway, I'm Ross Patterson. This is the drinking bros I cast. Ooh. Not everyone. Enter technology acumen, join users around the world and compete for the top spot. Test your tech quotient knowledge on science, technology, engineering and math questions. How many rounds can you complete before losing all your lives? Earn badges to show off your gray matter as questions increase in difficulty. 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