What The Ale?
Flight #6: the 27 Club
ghosts, cryptids, murder, conspiracies, beer, what, the ale. Hello, hello, friends. Hello. Welcome to March and all the things. Welcome to our March flight for what the ale. I'm Alana Ray. And I'm Mama J. And I guess before we get into our topic, Mama, how are you? Any what the ale moments? Um, well, I'm going to let you say our family is big with the ale moment this week, but another one that is just kind of fun one is that my youngest was in the sweet meat hot over the weekend and opening night on Friday was the 45th anniversary of opening night on Broadway. And I thought that was very cool and it just was a coincidence that they happen to open their show on the 40th anniversary. Very cool. Yeah, that's super cool. And it like is adorable that it ended up that way. And sweetie Todd was great. I love it. Love all the murder, you know, I mean, not that I love the murder, but it's, it's, it's fun. Yeah. Um, all right, well, the big with the all moment I have is that I am moving across the country once again. Yes. And I don't, you know, I'm not actually stressed about what's going to happen once I'm there, but the millions of moving parts of like getting out of my lease here and moving and figuring out what like me and my partner are doing, well, I mean, he's coming, but like figuring out how that's going to go and like just trying to quit my job and everything this week has kind of led to us being a chaotic mess and not being able to get this flight to you one time. And I want to apologize because, you know, part of me is like, we should have planned ahead. But at the same time, this shit happens, how I feel about it. So sorry, this is late friends, we really appreciate your patience with all of this. And we will get our, our flight is out today. We're going to try to, by the end of the week, get mamas episode out. So we are all caught up and then we will be back to our regular schedule programming next week is our hope. Yes. Life is chaotic when you're moving across the country unexpectedly with a month's notice, but it's going to be great, you're going to kill it out there. I'm like not even nervous about the getting like once I'm there and settled, I'm fine. It's the actually getting there that I'm like, yeah. So yeah, I guess pray for me friends and do my best here. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to be good, but it's, this is stressful time for sure. Yes, absolutely. But anyway, or what are you drinking, mama? Well, I had some delicious peanut noodles for dinner, so I'm having a lovely chibon to go with that. So yeah, that's, you know, I wanted to do some that match my dinner. Nice. Nice. Spicy and peanutty and all kinds again. Sounds good. I am having my tried and true Medello Negra because that is what I have in my house right now. So yeah. All right. Well, I know you kind of alluded to it in your last episode that we will be covering some of the 27 club. There's quite a few of them. Yeah, I think we have what 16 between the two of us. A lot. Okay. And I kind of have a lot of notes on all of them, so I might shorten it down a little bit because yeah, that's a lot of people. Yeah. Maybe there should have been a keg, but here we are. Okay. I'll try to make it short and sweet then. Okay. So I'm going to go ahead and start with Rudy Lewis and Rudy was born Charles Randolph Harold on August 23, 1936 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And then he died in New York 27 years later because he's in the 27 club. So some of the things that I didn't know about him. And just do you know who he is or what what he's from? Is Rudy of sports person? No, no, he, he became a drifter and he took Ben E. King's spot as one of the lead vocalists. Okay. And so I don't know if Alana any favorite drifter's songs or anything come to mind. Of course, when you ask me, I immediately draw a blank. I do know who the drifter is or I'm not blank though, but I'm drawing a blank right now. I really can't think of anything, but I mean, the two songs that I feel like people know the most are on Broadway and up on the roof. Oh, yeah. Up on the roof. There it is. Yeah. Those are two of their biggest songs, but yeah, so he ended up, he started out as like a gospel singer and he was, he had sang with the Clara Ward sisters and he was one of only two males that had sung with them ever. So and then he auditioned for the drifters in Philadelphia's uptown theater. And they hired him and you know, he was a lead singer, you know, for quite some time. I mean, really until his death now, but one of the things that I didn't know about him was that they said that he was a closeted homosexual at the time and I know that, but I can imagine like at that time, you know, because this is in the sixties at that time and you're singing with like, you know, a male group and like there's probably a lot of pressure to, you know, present a certain way and you're trying to attract the ladies because that's who's buying the records or whatever. So I can imagine that must have been really hard. And then the other thing that I wasn't aware of, I just don't really know much about any of the drifters. But he also had a binge eating disorder and that was something that he struggled with for a really long time. And you know, I guess, you know, I want to say like, you know, I think a lot of times we think of eating disorders and being something that mostly women deal with, but men often deal with all kinds of eating disorder, so you're not just binge eating. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, it's really sad to know that that was something that he struggled with. Absolutely. Wow. Now, I saw two different stories about like the timeline of when he died, one of them said that he, it was the day that they recorded under the boardwalk and that that song was written for him. And but once one, you know, resource that I had said that he did record it and another one said they hadn't finished recording it. But anyways, on May 21st, 1964, he was found dead in his Harlem hotel room. And they said that he probably died the previous night. And an autopsy was never performed, but the authorities ruled his death as a probable drug overdose. And there was rumors that he did have a heroin addiction. So, you know, I don't know if that's true or not, but it's possible. Now, his close friends and family said that he died of a mixture of a drug overdose as And I saw one other source that just listed it as a heart attack, but yeah, it sounds like drugs was probably a part of it. And you know, I will also say with eating disorder stuff, sometimes you can have health complications because of that too. So. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. But anyway, so he's our first to enter our flight as a 27 club member. Wow. Well, thanks for, you know, sharing. I really didn't know much about him other than he was in the club, so. Yeah. And I will say in 1988, Lewis was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member of the Drifters. And there's a couple, I think, on my side of the flight that were and, you know, inducted into the Hall of Fame after the best. So, but he's the first that I'll talk about. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. I think I mean, we obviously talked about Brian Johnson last week, but there's a couple on my end to who I think have been inducted. So. Yeah. Good times. All right. We'll do that for us. So my first one is Brian Jones. Okay. He is. I'm not sure. All right. I'm just going to tell you the story a little bit. Okay. So. Thank you all. Gaster. I think you will eventually. Okay. He was born on February 28th of 1942. And shuttle, Shelton ham England. And he from an early age was really into jazz and blues. And as a young teenager, I think around 15, he started getting involved with the R&B and jazz scene in England. And at the time he was just kind of playing at different clubs and stuff and he was going by the name Elmo Lewis. He started a band with the future Manfred Men Singer, Paul Jones, and they called their little band the roosters. But then in 1962, he decided, you know what, I want to start my own band. And so he put an ad in jazz news in England, brand new R&B group. And a rather well-known rock legend responded to his ad named Mick Jagger. And he brought up his childhood friend, Heath Richards. Oh. So of course, this becomes what band? Rolling Stones. There you go. We have seen, by the way, and Mick Jagger is told that he's trotting around that stage. Mick Jagger, hold on, let's tell her Rolling Stones story first again, because Mick Jagger was in heart failure two months before the concert and the show got in full. Well, the week we were supposed to see him earlier. And then all the dates got changed because of his heart issue. He was in heart failure. Yeah. Came back from the dead and did his show and it was ready. He spread it. Yeah, it was great. He was a peacock out there, just like fluffing his feathers. He was great. His little dances were great. Keith was great. We did get to see our dear departed Charlie, so that was really good. Yes. And we doped because all of them were dressed like rock stars and he was dressed very like a grandpa. And he played the drums so amazingly, but he never moved. He had that same smile the whole time. He was not talking about, he was just like killing on the drums, but like never changed his smile, never changed his posture. It was just like a grandpa sitting there enjoying the show. Yeah. But he killed it. I mean, it was great. He didn't miss a beat. Yeah. Yeah. So he's a very different vibe than the rest of them, though. Absolutely. And I will assure you now that Brian Jones probably falls into the more Mick Jagger, Keith Richard's category. But so the fun fact I learned is how he came up with the name The Rolling Stones, which is that he was on the phone with a club owner trying to book the band. And the club owner was like, well, I need a name. And he hadn't talked to the guys about it yet, but he had a muddy water his vinyl sitting in front of him. And the first song on the album was the song The Rolling Stone Blues. So he just was like, okay, we're the Rolling Stones. And originally, Rolling Stones, they were called the Roland Stones with no G as he was added later. Oh, I did not know that. I think that's interesting. Yeah. But anyway, so as I said, and as I've kind of made it clear, Brian was the founder of the group. He is the, you know, originally was kind of the heart and soul of the group, but Mick Jagger was a great songwriter and Keith Richard being so musically gifted. They kind of overpowered Brian a lot after some time in the band. And I want to say Brian was a group because he had, you know, grew up in the music scene and everything. Like knew like he was responsible for their rise and fame. Like he knew who to talk to, who to connect to and all of that. And so he was really instrumental in that. But then you hit 1967. And at that point, it's the Mick Jagger and Keith Richard show. No one cares about Brian. It's quite sad. And a lot of times there were, there was tension between Jones and Mick Jagger specifically. And he was like getting tired of like just having to play rhythm guitar in the corner and like would miss recording sessions and stuff because he just like straight up wasn't having a good time. It also got worse because at the time Jones's girlfriend left him for Keith Richards. Which is very sad. And so he did work on the Beggars banquet album in 1968. And he worked on jumping Jack Flash. His last appearance with the band was in December of 1968 while they were filming rock and roll circus. Which you can see that that is a wild movie. Movie concert type thing. And also at that time in '68 and '69 the band was being targeted by Scotland Yard for promoting drug use and young people. And they got involved in all that. And so kind of what happened was Jones had been arrested several times and was facing a possible jail sentence by the time 1969 rolled around. At the time he was living in the Crotchford farm in each East Ex, oh my gosh. Crotchford farm in East Essex which was formerly owned by AAML. Do you know who that is? No. He's the author of Winnie the Pooh. Oh. That's awesome. He was living in Winnie the Pooh's author's house. Well, just so everybody knows that when Miss Alana was a small teeny tiny child Winnie the Pooh is absolutely her favorite. Yeah. And she had a Tigger that would bounce around and sing his song and she would hop around all over the place with her Tigger. But Winnie the Pooh has been one of your childhood favorites of all time. Quite literally if I'm sad to this day I will turn on Winnie the Pooh and feel better. That is a real thing that happens. So anyway, that's why I included that note in case folks were curious. Yeah. My point is he was living in this house and very tragically on July 2nd of 1969 his girlfriend Anna Wolin who is Swedish found him at the bottom of the swimming pool. Anna claims that when she got him out of the pool before they called paramedics he was still alive. She thought he was still breathing or not breathing but like he was somewhat responsive there is a pulse. And by the time medics got there he unfortunately had passed. There was like a weird theory that maybe he was murdered by a contractor that was working on the house and because him and Jones had some tension about money and apparently the guy confessed on his deathbed but there's really no evidence of that at all. Maybe I'll dive into that a little bit deeper. But from what I could tell it just seemed like sex, drugs and rock and roll he fell in the pool drunk and did not make it. So outside of that obviously the Rolling Stones were inducted into the rock and roll Hall of Fame after Jones died so he is in the rock and roll Hall of Fame to this day. And upon his death I think within two days of his death the band performed a free concert at Hyde Park for all to celebrate the music. So yeah, I mean that's very sad but cool that the band did that. But yeah that is Brian Jones. Okay well I've got another rock and roll Hall of Famer for you and this woman was inducted in 1995 but she had actually passed in 1970 and she is somebody you are a big fan of. And I think I'm going to ask you if you can name her most popular songs. I think she had five most popular singles that were on Billboard's Hot 100 and I want to see if you can name them all. This is Ms. Janice Japplin. All right, are you asking now? Well yeah well so let me just you know she's a singer songwriter. She's like one of the most known female rock performers of that time and she has mezzo soprano voice range and so you know her voice is very unique. If you all don't know her look her up because you should but anybody that knows her you know her voice the second she starts to sing because it's a very distinctive voice. She's the only one that sounds like that really. Yeah nobody else sounds anything like her. She was born in Port Arthur Texas in January 1943. Her parents Dorothy Bonita East was a registered business college and Seth Ward Japplin was an engineer at Texaco. Oh wow. Which makes me wonder if they had money. I have no idea if she came from money or not but that sounds like it could be a money kind of a job. I mean working at Texaco yeah as an engineer yeah so she had a couple of different bands so in 1967 she really started to gain some fame and notoriety because she appeared in Monterey's pop festival and at that time she was the singer of Big Brother and the Holding Company which was a San Francisco psychedelic rock band and she did do two albums with Big Brother and the Holding Company and then she decided to continue as a solo artist and she had her backup band was Cosmic Blues Band and then the Full Tilt Boogie Band. So Alana what is one of the biggest festivals that she's ever attended? Yes so 1969 Miss Thing was on stage at Woodstock with you know Jerry Garcia Santana like all the beats you know whatever and then she also was in the festival express train tour and then like I said she had five singles that were on the billboard Hot 100. So can you name the ones that you think that would be because I know you're a big fan. Well okay so one I am thinking of that I know was a Big Brother song as Peace of My Heart but I know that song is phenomenal so just peace of my heart. Yeah okay so one that you play often I mean me and Bobby McGee yes ma'am I know Chris Kristofferson wrote that but I love that song yeah well it's funny because only one of these songs is her original song and the funny thing about that is that's my favorite of all of these songs even though no one else would agree with me. Mercedes Benz yes I love that song but I love it because I have strong childhood memories of like singing that song in the car with my dad yeah and so even though I know all the other songs I thought that song was so funny as a kid and I just had memories like road tripping with my dad singing that song so Mercedes Benz is absolutely one of my favorites of hers and that's her original yeah okay so I would say the next one is most likely cry baby yes ma'am I was gonna say that one's in a commercial that a perfume is a perfume commercial that Natalie Portman's in I think so yeah yeah and I love that commercial because I love Natalie Portman yeah okay so the last one I mean is it summertime yep summertime and then ball and chain oh I was gonna say ball and chain yeah but that was my second guest if it wasn't summertime I was gonna say ball and you and your man and Bobby McGee you play that in the car all the time I would love that song yeah I don't know what it is about that song it just gives me good vibes it makes me happy yeah and that was a crisp Kristofferson song but she did it very well she did okay so I want to before I talk about her death I just wanted to tell you some of her accomplishments so Rolling Stone ranked her number 46 on it's 2004 list of the top greatest 100 artists of all time wow so yeah and that was just 2004 so that was you know I mean she died in 1970 so that's a very long you know 34 years after her death she still made the top 100 of greatest greatest of all time and then she was ranked number 28 on the 2008 list of a hundred greatest singers of all time and NPR called her the Queen of Rock and named her as one of the 50 great voices okay she was one of the top selling musicians in the United States at the time and she had recording industry association America certifications of 18.5 million album sold which I know people sell a lot more than that now but back then that was like huge yeah no for sure that was big in like the 60s or 70 so you know sadly she died of a heroin overdose in 1970 at the age of 27 this was only three months before her second solo album Pearl was released in January 1971 so it was released three months after her death and it reached number one on the Billboard charts and like I said she was inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995 so her the night of her death I was October 4th 1970s she was found dead on the floor at the Landmark Motor Hotel by her Road Manager Jim Byrne Cook and there was alcohol present in the room there was no other drug paraphernalia found but it Thomas Negucci was the one who did her autopsy and he said it was like very common back then that people like friends would remove drug paraphernalia you know just not wanting it to be that obvious what the cause of death was and he said but you know people often would like remove things and then later put them back once they realize the autopsy is going to show all of that anyways and so you know that was what happened in this case some people apparently removed stuff from her room and then like put it back and were you know like okay yeah that is the true thing and when they performed the autopsy yes it was a heroin overdose and they said it was possibly compounded by alcohol so you know just another sad case of like sex drugs and rock and roll right but you know I do wonder about the timing though you know when we think of the 27 club I kind of wonder like is around 27 the time when all of these people were you know really famous in the spotlight maybe dealing with addiction because it is available and so you know I just wonder you know the timing of it you know because I don't know 27 is a curse but you know maybe that's just around the time when people are really in their fame and touring and partying and you know it just happens to be that that's about the age that people are very caught up in that stuff so I don't know but yeah it's very sad to have another beautiful woman beautiful singer beautiful performer you know have to die that way yeah yeah I mean Janice is definitely I mean you know she's like one of my favorites of all time I'll I have Pearl on vinyl that I spent probably once a week like I love her so much yeah so it's really tragic and I think for me with the 27 club I think of it a lot is I can't imagine the public pressure of being especially some of these folks who come from really humble beginnings just having this fame and unlimited money and unlimited pressure almost to be a certain way and to do certain things and so I do wonder if it's not so much of an actual like curse curse or if it's just like the price of fame that comes with it and they just happen to be around this age which I think we'll see with a few people there are a few people where it's kind of interesting but yeah yeah I agree all right well our next one is someone else that was at Woodstock do you want to take a guess I don't know Jimmy Hendrix oh Jimmy Hendrix yeah that makes sense so Jimmy was born Johnny Allen Hendrix on November 27th in 1942 he was renamed James Marshall Hendrix later on by his father I'm not sure if like they didn't talk about baby names before he was born but they changed his name and as a kid he was immediately interested in music he idolized folks like BB King buddy Holly Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson and something really neat about Jimmy is that he is unable to read music and he was completely self-taught and something else that's kind of cool about Jimmy Hendrix is that he is a left-handed person but he taught himself to play left-handed honor right-handed guitar so his guitar is like upside down versus other people play you know like yeah so his guitar is like upside down compared to how other people would play so he would have to play the chords differently than like you know upside down wow that'd be hard but that's cool that he taught himself to do that exactly so his dad kind of noticed when he was a kid that instead of doing his chores Jimmy would just drum a broom around the house pretending to play guitar so his dad got a second hand acoustic or actually no first he got a ukulele with one string on it for Jimmy because they had very humble beginnings so he had his little one string ukulele and was playing and then eventually his dad was able to get him an acoustic guitar and Jimmy was able to play and he joined a band called The Velvetones just kind of playing rhythm guitar in the back then of course he got his first electric guitar and joined a band called The Rockin Kings at 19 years old he left home to join the army and he actually earned a screaming eagles patch for paratroopers before becoming a rock star he actually sustained an injury while during a jump and had to be medically discharged so he worked as a session guitarist for many bands and he played Mark Yach so what he would do is kind of like play before the main event came on stage some folks he played under were Sam Cooke, Tina Turner, The Eisley Brothers and Little Richard okay love all of them so then he parted ways with Little Richard and decided to start a band called Jimmy James and the Blue Flames from 65 to 66 he played in Greenwich Village in New York City and Chas Chandler of the animals was so impressed with his skills that he left the animals became a manager and then scouted Jimmy and was like you need to come to London and join a band and record for us so Mitch Mitchell and Noel Redding joined what would become the Jimmy Hendricks experience which is so fun and exciting they released Hijo which was number six on the UK charts and they released R.U. experience later that year and June of 1967 he played a song at the Monterey Pot Festival I believe he played wild thing actually so that's when people in the US kind of got wind of him well and maybe Janice was there too because I said she was at that festival too I don't know if it was same year but that's cool they were definitely friends I know that about those two they knew each other but yeah so he played at the Monterey Pot Festival and then in 68 he decided to create his own studio called the Electric Lady Studios in New York he then released a 2LP project called Electric Lady Land but then the experience disbanded in 69 so around this time Jimmy's in New York and something else was in New York in 1969 which we all know is Woodstock so I don't know if y'all have heard it but his star Spangled Banner is insane and it's wonderful but he plays Woodstock and everyone is just like this guy is insane he's so cool so he tried to create a new Jimi Hendrix experience band and began work on an LP called the first rays of the rising sun unfortunately Jimi died on September 18th of 1970 before this could be released the cause of death was a overdose of alcohol and sleeping pills apparently at the time you know he was in some legal trouble with the record label I think for like performing music he couldn't perform or something but he also was facing a paternity suit some people say the death was suspicious in my opinion sex drugs rock and roll you know and it was reopened in the 90s and it was completely deemed inconclusive like they couldn't find any real evidence that it was a suspicious death but he was buried at the Greenwood Cemetery in Renton Washington and his gravestone reads forever in our hearts James and Jimi Hendrix and he has been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and I'm sure many of us at least know one Jimi Hendrix song so I love him I think he's great yeah he's definitely one of the greatest guitar players of all time one now that I know he was playing his guitar upside down he's even more impressive it's impressive and insane to me I don't understand how one could do that so yeah yeah well okay well I've got another rock star here all right so um we're gonna talk about the doors the fabulous Jim Morrison also known as James Douglas Morrison who was born on December 8th 1943 he died on July 3rd 1971 at the age of 27 so he was the lead singer songwriter and poet for the rock band the doors I want to do my favorite door song that's such a hard question I think my favorite for some reason has always been the Alabama song aka the whiskey bar song yeah I don't know why that's always been one of my favorites I just love that song I just think because it goes do do do and it makes you want to bounce your knees you know probably I think when I thought that was fun yeah and I always like people are strange just as a fun song but yeah like like my fire is another one that just like whatever but I used to always listen to the doors greatest hits when I was at the gym back and I don't know if you remember that but back in the day I would just like listen to the doors on my CD player because it was like good consistent beat that I could work out too um so anyways there are a few fun facts about him so he um he um I mean he was born in Melbourne, Florida but his family ended up coming out to California well and he you know he had a sister born in Albuquerque and then his brother was born in Los Altos, California in 1948 so but he was like a big reader and apparently he really liked Frederick Nietzsche and he really liked reading about ideas about morality which I thought was really cool so a lot of his poetry and even some of his songs are um you know kind of written out of those kind of thoughts about like what is moral what's not and judging people and all that kind of stuff so I thought that was kind of cool and then I also did not know that he got a BA from UCLA's film school um in 1965 and I think that's very cool too but he apparently did not find the graduation ceremony very impressive so he decided to hang out at Venice Beach instead and so the university had to just mail his diploma to his mom great wonderful yeah um so he apparently made several short films while he was at UCLA and then um his roommate and classmate Matt Schwartz um with somebody that obviously they stayed friends for a very long time and um after graduating he was like living on the rooftop of one of his friends like apartments or whatever his apartment building and that was Dennis Jacob and um he wrote a lot of the songs um like he wrote Moonlight Drive and Hello I Love You while hanging out on the rooftop oh um and then at second point somebody was like reading his poetry and like doing all of that and they were like you know what these these are more like lyrics that you know you should be in a rock group um and so they looked too fine uh Robbie Krieger and uh his the guitarist and the drummer John Dunsmore and they created the doors now do you know how they got their name I do not actually yeah I didn't know this either so apparently there is a book that I have not read called The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley um and it talks about unlocking your the doors to your perception by using psychedelic drugs and so psychedelic rock band name yeah so the doors of perception inspired the doors um so I thought that was fun and then um and then do you know anything about his uh visit to the Ed Sullivan Show? I feel like I do didn't say something he wasn't supposed to say wasn't that okay yeah so um so you know they uh it was in 1967 that they signed with the lecture records and that's when light my fire came out and hit the number one on the billboard charts um and so you know they got invited to the Ed Sullivan Show and um and they wanted them to change the lyrics and light my fire so instead of saying girl we can get much higher because they didn't want any references to drugs um they wanted them to change it to girl we can get much better and apparently like they agreed to that and I mean obviously there's two different stories one was that you know Morrison was like angry that he was told to change the lyrics and so he defiantly said the original lyrics and then the other one was like he just wasn't thinking he just saying it the way he wrote it without thinking about it um but I so I don't know which one's true but apparently Ed Sullivan was so upset that he didn't shake any other hands and then he uh told them that they would never be back on the show and apparently they had six further booking or future bookings already in the you know in the works and they canceled them on the spot and but what do you think that Jamoreson's reaction to that was he probably was just like whatever yeah so I what the quote that I have here is "hey man so what we just did the Sullivan Show" so he did not care he was like I already got what I needed from you I've already was on live TV you know yeah so he was not bothered by that at all but I thought that was a funny story um and then there was another story and this was in New Haven Connecticut in 1967 and apparently he was in the showers backstage with a woman and they they were like police and they didn't realize who he was and so they ordered him to leave and again his reply was "eat me" because he's a little defiant and so he was maced by that officer and they had to delay the show and then when they finally like were able to start the show he told you know them about what happened but it was like you know he worried it all very obscenely and it was cussing and all the things so then the police ended up arresting him for indecency and public obscenity but they later like dropped those charges but he was the first rock performer arrested on stage so I was like that's kind of a fun fact I like my little defiant Jim Morrison interesting he seems like a strange man yeah so um so he you know he obviously like started oh and um actually Mick Jagger's in this one too that they started spending a lot of um time together and one of the things that they discussed which you'll like this because you know who taught Mick Jagger to dance but they discussed how awkward they felt about dancing in front of people on stage and um and apparently Jagger was asking Morrison how to you know like work on like a big crowd and it's funny because I don't know why I think of Mick Jagger is like I don't know like bigger or like he was there first or something but you know I mean I guess apparently they were kind of all at the same time but I don't know why the doors is younger for some reason but I thought that was cute that they were trying to talk about how awkward they felt dancing on stage and Alana what do you know about who taught Mick Jagger to dance? Miss Queen of rock and roll herself Tina Turner yes because that woman was all legs and all shake and all everything she was it and I saw her live in concert and that is one of my favorite concerts of all time yeah she was um R.I.P. to her um yes we have her so much that's an icon yeah she was my mom's favorite her and Stevie Wonder one of my mom's favorites so I love Tina more than life itself um but yeah she was responsible for helping Mick Jagger try to find some rhythm which you know he he has he has a groove now he's got a groove it's a very distinctive it's only his groove I don't know that anybody else can really mimic it but it's definitely a groove yep um so anyways around 1968 um you know and you know you know Jim Morrison had been like a drinker forever and probably using psychedelic drugs since he wrote about that a lot um but around 68 was when he started showing up like late for recording sessions and like clearly drunk um or late you know for shows even um so you know it was they were starting to see it as a problem um and then he had another another run-in with the law in 69 um he was at dinner key auditorium in Miami and he started screaming he want to see my cock and other obscenities so obviously the police saw that as profane and obscene and so three days later six warrants were issued for his arrest um you know for indecent exposure and other accusations um so a lot of you know they had a counsel a lot of their tour dates for that and in 1970 he was convicted of indecent exposure and profanity by a six-person jury after a 16-day trial um and so you know he just listened he was sentenced to six months in prison and had to pay a $500 fine um but he never had to serve the time he was set free on a $50,000 bond but I'm like man that's like a big consequence for you know what I mean I'm not saying you could show your junk on stage but you can get away with so much on the stage now and I'm like that's a pretty big yeah $50,000 bond seems like a pretty big deal back then yeah for sure um and then I guess I will get to his death so um oh but that that case though I should say on December um of 2010 on the 67th anniversary of Morrison's birth the Florida government or governor did grant clemency um and granted a pardon to him for that arrest that he had back then I mean random but cool yeah so well and I feel like they do that right like even um I mean that happened with Ray Charles right in Georgia like years and years later they like granted him a pardon for his arrest and drug use in Georgia right I'm like welcome him back because he didn't want to get on stage it was because he didn't want to get on stage for a segregated crowd but they also found him using drugs yeah but then that was totally a race thing for sure yeah that was that was like they kind of I mean maybe they had found him with drugs but like it was kind of planted like they knew they were looking for a reason then yeah yeah yeah okay so on July 3rd 1971 he was found dead in the bathtub um at his apartment and it was like six in the morning um the the official cause of death death was heart failure but they didn't perform a autopsy oh because this happened in France and in French law they don't require an autopsy yeah um now the guy that found him quercin he said that Morrison's last words as he was bathing were pammer you still there um but I don't know how that you know because they they said that he found him already dead so I don't know at what point he heard Morrison say those last words like was it the night before and he like left him or you know I don't know how that played out but that was what one source said um and then you know even though he didn't have an autopsy people were saying that they think it wasn't accidental heroin overdose because he was using drugs at that time um and like people had even found him like unconscious in like club bathrooms and stuff when they were doing smaller club shows and things like that so um yeah so they were thinking that was it but because there was no autopsy there's no way to know for sure okay um but apparently they they were trying to keep his death a secret for a little bit of time but you know I get these things get out um and then his death came two days after the day um oh two years to the day after the death of Rolling Stones guitarist Brian Jones and then approximately nine months after the deaths of Jenny Jimi Hendrix and Janice Joplin and so again all 27 clubbers and I thought that was interesting that it was like to the day yeah I didn't know that they were to the day yeah just for Brian Jones but yeah it's interesting yeah I mean it is interesting and I mean part of it is you know sex drugs rock and roll and part of is um again like people can have their own opinions about the 27 club I just think it's interesting yeah but we still got several to go so we're still going we're still in the 70s friends but um my next person actually brings us to the 80s okay so um going a little away from the musician um thing I am going to cover an artist oh okay so Jean-Michel Basquiat was born on 12/22 of 1960 he was born at Brooklyn Hospital his parents were Haitian and Puerto Rican immigrants um and growing up obviously knowing the artist who had become he had an affinity for drawing and would often make drawings that were inspired by cartoons um his mother seemed to really foster this and she also had like a passion for fashion and drawing and stuff so they would kind of do that together um but his parents separated when he was nine years old and at the time his dad got a promotion that brought him to Puerto Rico so his dad brought him with him so he no longer lived with his mom um and it sounds like you know they didn't really say much about their relationship but it sounds like maybe things were a little bit trying so in you know 1974 he got this promotion that took him to Puerto Rico um he ran away from home after uh an argument or something in 1975 um and actually like hid at a radio station and then they like called his dad to come get him um and then he also was or so yeah so that was in Puerto Rico and then in 1976 they returned to New York um and he enrolls in a school called city as school where he meets his friend Al Diaz who becomes one of his main like early collaborators um he was a graffiti artist from the Lower East Side um and so they would hang out in Washington Square Park in different places um beginning in 1977 they would spray aphorisms on the D train um and they would write like um philosophical poems and that type of thing and they had a kind of code that was called SAMO S-A-M-O and it would say things like SAMO is this or SAMO is that and it was kind of this idea of um like the ultimate like burning out end-of-the-world type of thing it was very artsy in their brains um but then he left home uh in '78 officially moved out and he started getting really really fascinated with Janice Joplin and Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison and these folks and thinking a lot about the idea of like burning the candle up both ends and burning out um so he spent a lot of time in different like art lofts and things where he was meeting artsy people um and he started out selling hand-painted posts postcards at the time um and he happened to sell one to a very famous artist in New York I wonder if you can guess I don't know Andy Warhol oh so that's cool Andy Warhol bought one of his postcards and there was another artist there and the other artist was like eh this is like trash and Andy Warhol was like no there's something here yeah which we'll kind of find later him and Warhol had a relationship but I'll get into that a little bit more um but around um the late '70s he actually has a falling out with his friend Sam who they had been graffiti in the subway um so they post they like sprayed like a final like Samo is dead graffiti on the train um and then he actually got involved in music weirdly enough so he in 1979 formed a band called Channel Nine which then they renamed Test Pattern which was then renamed Gray um and it was kind of dubbed as noise music they called it a blend of jazz punk and synth rock um and he just kind of would be in his band doing his things um and so he's still doing art but is mostly focusing on music but then in 1980 he showed his work in the Times Square's art show um and it became really successful people were like who is this Basquiat kid you know um so he kind of is so encouraged by this that he's like I'm quitting the band so on August 3rd of 1980 the band plays its final show um and then he started showing his work in galleries around the city around the country and then eventually around the world um he is called kind of one of the most influential Harlem Renaissance artists and I think it's because you know we can talk chicken or the egg or all the things but he was a young black man who had roots in street art and did very different kind of modern art you know kind of interpretations and things and so he's kind of synonymous with like bringing street art into the mainstream um which I think is really cool um so that was in 1980 and then in 1983 he's you know had already met Andy Warhol but they start collaborating and actually paint each other's portraits they attend events together they taught philosophy they just become really good friends yeah and so you know this whole time he had you know kind of been using drugs it's the 80s you know cocaine's pretty popular that type of thing um but friends around 84 started to find that it was getting to the extremes um they would find him in states of paranoia um he had like deteriorating health issues including his spleen having to be removed um and he started getting like dark spots on his face because of that um he did a joint show with Andy Warhol in 85 and there were really like unfavorable unfavorable reviews so that kind of told on his mental health and he was using drugs to cope um he had been dating someone named Jennifer Goode for several years um and she broke up with him and one of the reasons was his heroin use um was taking a toll on the relationship um then in 1987 unfortunately Andy Warhol passes away and he was devastated um they claim that traditionally Andy Warhol was kind of the only person in his life that could bring him back from a dark time um and would they in their words would like talk him off of the ledge a lot um so we don't really know kind of what happened a lot in 87 um but at some point in 1988 he claimed you know he was kicking the drugs for good um and people really did believe he was getting better um they were like he seemed to not be intoxicated he seemed to be sticking to it you know all the things but unfortunately on August 12th of 1988 uh he died and it has loft um the cause of death was an acute mix of drug intoxication they believe it was opiates and cocaine so maybe heroin and cocaine we're not really sure um and then there was a private funeral um in Brooklyn and then they had a kind of large public memorial at St. Peter's Church in New York that happened in November so that is Jean-Michel Bosquiat um but it's really sad but he is another 27er okay well i'm gonna bring it back to musicians with another very well-known band so um this is a member of one of my dad's favorite bands the Grateful Dead so this is Rob Pickpen McKernan oh he was born on September 8th 1945 he died March 8th 1973 um he was born in San Bruno California and um the one of the cool things that i thought was interesting was that his dad was an R&B and blues disjocking huh and he was one of the first white DJs on KDIA which is the local radio station but i thought that was cool that you know a white man and you know way back when was an R&B and blues DJ i think that's cool like supporting you know different kinds of genres so McKernan you know he obviously Pickpen they call him um you know he was obviously influenced by a lot of African American music because his dad was really into the blues and R&B um so he would like often listen to his dad's records and he taught himself how to play harmonica and piano and that's you know when he became friends with Jerry Garcia in the San Francisco Bay area and um you know they decided to try to form a group and um they had bassist Phil Lesh join and um as they went from being like kind of folksy and like they called them jug bands um do they turn into like psychedelic rock group um but it's funny you know a lot of the songs that i like a lot are kind of more folksy so i thought that was interesting yeah um now um Pickpen was you know i mean he was self taught on the piano so like as they were changing different music types and whatever um he was falling behind a little bit and couldn't quite keep up on the piano with all the different things they were wanting him to play and so they ended up hiring another keyboardist named tom uh Konstantin and so then uh Pickpen ended up mostly doing vocals harmonica and percussion for like a couple of years um and then you know i guess uh in 1968 um tom ended up officially joining the band and like you know he would work on the studio albums too and not just touring and road manager john McIntyre said that Pickpen um was relegated to the congas at that point and it was really humiliating and he was really hurt but he couldn't show it and he couldn't talk about it hmm you know i just think that's really sad to like you know you're a founding member and you know but you just can't keep up your you know i mean they're doing more complicated things and he just couldn't quite learn it um and then uh um uh tom had to leave you know he like uh was in the military and he had to leave for a bit and so during that time um Pickpen like took back over the keyboard duties and then you know so he ended up recording some of like their you know famous albums or famous um songs so that was good for him right and i guess Garcia was like often like frustrated that he would like miss rehearsals or he couldn't keep up with the material um but their basis like fellesh he said that um it was okay for Pickpen to lay out we kept wanting Pickpen to be there because he was one of us you know and so he saw it more like we're a family and even if he can't keep up we're gonna find a place for him which i thought was kind of cool yeah totally now um you know the i mean i know i think the band is pretty well known for using psychedelic drugs but Pickpen was not somebody who used drugs but he was very fond of alcohol particularly whiskey and so you know he did have some liver damage and things like that caused by the alcoholism and so he had to stop touring for a time and then he had a short hiatus and then he tried to rejoin the group but you know later that year they told him he had to stop touring all together um and so you know it's for it's for his health yeah i mean but it's just it's really sad because it you know it does seem like it's alcohol related so it would be like preventable um now i did want to share that he uh was great friends with Janice Choplin and um they i guess one of the things they shared in common was that um you know they both had a lot of like musical influences that they shared and so people that they admire or you know wanted to um kind of make their sound after or whatever and then he also really did develop a good friendship with Tom who you know kind of took over the keyboard um and he was even like best man in his wedding which i thought was cool because you know you could just go hardcore like jealous or you know feeling pushed out by that guy you know but instead he was able to recognize that he was a good guy and he was contributing to the band and so i thought that was cool that they were able to be friends yeah so um now the band i guess uh well it picked by himself was arrested and fine after there was a cannabis bus in 1967 and he didn't use the drug at all but it was there because you know other people that he was hanging out with used it and so i thought that was interesting that even though he didn't ever do illegal drugs he kind of was the fall man for that wow i mean possession is hard though because you can't really prove that you didn't take it yeah always yeah but that police raid where he was arrested that inspired the lyrics for the band's song trucking oh i love that song but i didn't know there was a story behind it so it was a good song yeah um so yeah i mean the alcohol was like starting to impact his health by the mid 20s and um i mean he was like having some auto-immune stuff and things like that okay and uh his final concert was on june 17 1972 at the hollywood bowl which you know i mean if you have to have the last place to perform that's a pretty damn good place to perform it's a great venue it's beautiful yeah and you know the sad thing is though as he was like getting sicker and you know just not feeling well he ended up breaking up all of his personal relationships with the band and his reasoning was i don't want you all around when i die oh wow and i just like that breaks my heart like the idea that you love these people you're so close with them but you don't want to put them through it or you don't want to have them see your suffering or you don't want you know maybe you're feeling some humiliation or those kind of things but it's so sad that you know he was kind of choosing to die alone really i mean not with you know without his best friends yeah i mean and it's so sad because i mean at the time obviously they were all doing drugs and stuff but they they could have been people that were supports and helped him yeah yeah now there is talk that he didn't during during the last 17 months of his life so maybe he was trying to like repair the damage he had done um but and but then you know there was another source that said he lived the last month of his life on nothing but sunflower seeds and alcohol so i guess it depends who you ask but he was founded on march 8 1973 of a gastrointestinal hemorrhage and this was at his home and he was found by his um his property manager wow and the band was just like devastated by his death and Garcia spoke at his funeral and he at the funeral he said after pig pen's death we all knew this was the end of the original grateful then and then there was a song that came out on the live album of europe 1972 called he's gone and they said that that was like basically their eulogy to pig pen now he was posthumously inducted in the rock and roll hall of fame in 1994 so we're very happy for him about that and then on his headstone in ultimacy memorial park the inscription reads pig pen was and is now forever one of the grateful then and i thought that was nice but just another sad you know all this addiction stuff i mean it just i mean a lot of times you don't realize how deep you're in it until it's too late and it's so sad yeah and it's hard because i mean even things like withdrawals um there was a quote for one of the artists i was reading here but it was like you know it's so hard because when you're at your most vulnerable is when you're trying to get sober but you also have to be your strongest and some people just can't do that and it's such a powerful powerful statement because it's true and the addiction stuff i mean there's so many amazing resources out there but it's also really really difficult to admit that you need help and well in a way you're on the road and you're around people that are partying and everybody just wants to have a good time and you're a rock star and there's a certain look you feel like you're supposed to i mean it's just there's a lot of pressure you know yeah um but it's just so sad absolutely well i have another rock star for us okay my next one is not a rock star so we'll take a break from that after so um i'm going to talk about another washington native can you guess which person i'm talking about Kurt Cobain yep okay Kurt Cobain see maybe they see atle though like i had a thing washington what's in washington yes atle i know geography i really do sometimes so Kurt Cobain was born on february 20th of 1967 in Aberdeen Washington um at the time he discovered some local punk groups and things uh specifically the melvins and he became friends with one of the members named buzz Osborne um and even as a young teenager he was already showing self-destructive tendencies he got deep into drinking and the drug scene in Aberdeen and in the punk rock scene of the Seattle area as well um but then in the late 80s he met Chris oh my gosh what i know how to say his name hold on Chris Novoselic and Aaron Burkhard who were like hey man let's start a band which became Nirvana we love some Nirvana oh yeah so in 1988 they released their first track called love buzz um and at the time they replaced Burkhard with Chad Channing as the drummer um and they started actually getting some headway into the Seattle music scene um then in 1989 they released their first album which was bleach however it didn't make a huge impact but they were like we're still gonna go along we're gonna make some music um and actually in 1990 Kurt met Courtney Love at a nightclub in Portland oh one of her other favorite cities in America um and he you know they were just kind of like they kind of liked each other but like weren't really a thing at that point um but around the same time he also brought in one of my favorite rockers Dave Grohl in his new drummer um if people don't know I love Dave Grohl and that's all I need to say about that but in 1991 fame came when they released their album never mind and specifically the single smells like teen spirit um and at this point they had already signed with gaffin records um but sadly Kurt was actually outside of dealing with the stress of being the front man in a band and all of this fame he never really gave me the vibe and like really an interviews and stuff he never gave the vibe that he wanted to be famous like he definitely seemed like the type of guy that was like I'm in it for the art I'm in it for the music I don't care about this um but I think the stress and you know life in general was a lot for him he also apparently was having some sort of health issues and he never really got it diagnosed as far as I could tell but it seemed to be something with his gut stomach area where he was having a lot of pain so maybe an ulcer or something but he began using heroin to kind of as a pain reliever as well as like a stress reliever for himself um so then in 1992 he kind of saw Courtney again and they got married um and then they actually ended up having a daughter named Francis Bean in that August which something I saw recently as Francis has been alive longer than Kurt was and that's really sad yeah but their relationship was really rocky um at one point um social services threatened to take Francis away from them because Courtney loved in an interview where she infamously said she was using heroin while pregnant um there was also a violent dispute at their house where Kurt had a gun um and the police were called and they confiscated the firearm and arrested him for assaulting Courtney um in 1993 in utero was released and Kurt kind of was really fed up with the music industry and he really was not shy about that but they did perform their legendary MTV Unplugged Performance um and they left for a European tour while on the tour specifically in Rome Kurt overdosed on heroin but recovered in a hospital um but after their return it seemed his mental state really declined um so in 1994 that so in march of 94 um Courtney called the police because he had taken some medication and locked himself in a closet with guns um the police came and determined he was not suicidal but they did confiscate the medication and the guns um so at this point I think that was kind of like rock bottom for Kurt so he decided to check into rehab in Los Angeles but he was only there a few days and he left um so on April 5th of 94 he was found in the guest house of a Seattle home um dead his cause of death was a gunshot wound to the head but he also had a really high dose of heroin in his system um there was a lengthy suicide note found near his body um and it was like several pages where he talked about his wife and his daughter and thanked the fans and all of that I have seen the suicide note it's very hard to read um but you know um posthumously they released the unplugged recording um as well as from the banks for the muddy whisk I want to say that's gonna be whiskey I really spelled something weird there I'm sorry when the unplugged album is one of my favorite albums I just love that album so much oh me too I have that on vinyl too it's it's a great album um and there were a lot of legal battles between Courtney and the band but they kind of resolved them and released Nirvana and um with the lights out and silver the best of the box um which was kind of like a releasing of all of the unreleased demos and everything from the band so um they were able to do that and you know there was a conspiracy that Courtney killed Kurt and like like framed it as a suicide I don't personally totally believe that theory maybe that could be an episode we do later but um yeah that Kurt Cobain all right well I'm gonna take it to the athletic realm and we're gonna talk about Reggie Lewis uh who was born November 21st 1965 and he died on July 27 1993 um and he played for the Boston Celtics from 87 to 93 um and you know he played for them until he died he was born in Baltimore and he had turned in high school at Dunbar High School and at that time he played basketball with Muggsy Bogues and David Wingate oh wow I think it's cool and for anybody you know because probably a lot of people listening to this are younger but anybody that doesn't know Muggsy Bogues he was like much shorter than all the other players but he was like awesome and if you've ever seen Space Jam he is in Space Jam is one of the players he's the shorter one but he was awesome um so after high school he moved to Boston and he went to Northeastern University and you know he played basketball for the university he was drafted in the first round um 22nd overall by the Celtics in 1987 um but you know as Ricky he wasn't like really getting a ton of playing time and you know he would only play like eight minutes per game um because of the time the big three were still there Larry Bird Kevin McHale and Robert Parrish um you know but as time went on he got more and more minutes he had a lot more success and you know playing really well um now uh in April of 1993 it was um during the playoffs it was a game one against the Charlotte Hornets and he suddenly collapsed on the court and he like stayed on the ground for you know several seconds but he got up and he kind of was a little dazed he went out to the bench but a few minutes later he was put back in the game um but he had to be taken out again because he was just having a lot of dizziness and shortness of breath um and this will end up being his final game so in that final game he scored 17 points in 13 minutes and um you know which isn't too bad so he was doing things but the next day he had to check himself into the new England Baptist Hospital and you know he underwent a ton of tests and they diagnosed him with cardiomyopathy which is a disease of the heart muscle that it causes like a regular heartbeat and heart failure and that's actually what my mom passed away of um she was diagnosed when I was like 15 and she passed when I was 30 um but you know it really does I mean you know it just puts you in heart failure over time and um so yeah the symptoms that he was having were very similar to what my mom had experienced so um so that was what he was diagnosed with at the hospital but that diagnosis would have meant he would have to quit playing basketball so he went and got a second opinion and the second opinion was by Dr. Gilbert Mudge at Brigham and Women's Hospital I have a hospital well oh do you it I when I lived in Boston that was like right by my apartment okay well you can go wave to them when you go back um so but he diagnosed him with a neuro cardiogenic syncopene so that would be a non-fatal condition so you know because that was good news for him and he wanted to get back to playing he started working out and trying to get you know in shape and um you know but you know obviously he was not healthy enough to do that so on July 27 1993 while he was practicing and training at um in Massachusetts he suffered a sudden cardiac death and um it was two police officers that found him and they tried to revive him but like he was just gone um and so you know there were questions about you know like did the doctor miss diagnosed and would that be malpractice because you know he was exercising trying to get in shape based on that diagnosis that was non-fatal um so um and then you know there were some questions brought up about whether he possibly had used cocaine oh and you know some some physicians were just saying that like you know cocaine does cause heart issues which you know any young person would make sense but the family you know totally denies that he ever used cocaine and um the official cause of death was a damaged heart by a cold virus and you know a reporter was saying like that stupid like that doesn't make any sense or whatever but I'm I want to stress like my mom had car radio mouth my apathy and it was because a cold virus settled around her heart and so I know that can be a thing even though it sounds weird yeah so but the reporter was just trying to like really make it seem like it was cocaine so the Boston Celtics um you know wanted to support the family and Reggie and so they threatened to file a hundred million dollar lawsuit against that reporter and like parent company and all of that and um the doctor you know who gave him the lesser diagnosis was sued for malpractice um you know but he was he was saying that you know even though um he didn't test positive for cocaine the doctor was saying that you know Reggie had confessed to him that he had used cocaine in the past um so he was trying to say well it was cocaine related but you know again the family really feels like he never used cocaine and you know really nobody knows and um but the doctor who performed the autopsy did say the scarring on the heart was inconsistent with cocaine use and other doctors thought the same thing saying you know it doesn't look like he was a drug user and that his heart tested um the tissue around the heart tested positive for adrenal virus which again is a common cold and flu like infection that can settle in the heart so you know to me doesn't sound like it was drug related at all but you know people like to spread rumors oh of course yeah um so um after his death Reggie Lewis track and athletic center was open in Roxbury uh Boston and in 1995 his jersey number 35 was retired which I think is very cool um and the only other thing that I wanted to mention which you know the NBA changed the rules after this but at the time you know his contract um the NBA didn't have a way to get out of that so they had to pay out his contract even after he died which to me in a way that's kind of nice to do for the family because you know whatever um the NBA has that money in my opinion yeah yeah but since then they have changed the rules so that in the case of a players um that dies while they're still in a contract that that contract would be paid by the league's insurance and not by the NBA directly and that was something that came up from commissioner David Stern who is wanting to protect the NBA but you know just for him at least his family was paid out his contract which I think is cool even you know people could argue that you know whatever but I think it's cool that they had to do that I mean I think that is good yeah it's like having a life insurance policy like it should exist yeah so all right so that's all I got for him all right well I am actually gonna do our first actor of our country um so I'm gonna be covering Jonathan Brandeis um so he was a child actor who eventually kind of had a tragic turn but um he was born on April 13th of 1976 in Danbury Connecticut um he was a child model starting at two years old for buster brown shoes um and over the next few years until he was like four or five he was moving into acting and tv in commercials and things um and at age six he landed the role of Kevin Buchanan and One Life to live which was a soap opera um and so when he was nine his family moved him to LA to make guest appearances on the wonder years murder she wrote an LA law huh and then at four I definitely watched wonder years when I was a kid and then at 14 he was cast as Bastian who is the main character of the never-ending story oh well the never-ending story yeah so he was the Bastian in part two not in part one um but still okay that he was in it okay well part one's exceptionally better but that's all I'm gonna say about that but he also appeared in Stephen King's It sidekicks and ladybugs that same year ah okay um and I I don't think he was like one of the main kids in it but I kind of want to watch it now and like look for his face but he was in it um because I'm a Stephen King nerd um and then at 17 he got cast in Sequest DSP as Lucan or as Lucas Wollensack um which ended up being a huge like sci-fi show that came out um and he kind of became like a teen heartthrob um so while he was filming he attended Valley Professional School um and he graduated high school in 1993 and um after uh Sequest was canceled he was getting some smaller like cameo type roles smaller things um but it was really kind of drying up for him and so in 2002 he starred and hearts wore alongside Bruce Willis and Colin Farrell he really thought this was gonna be his moment his comeback um but unfortunately many of his scenes ended up being cut so he really wasn't like a memorable part of the movie that's a bummer um which is just really sad so a year later in November or on November 11th of 2003 he was found in his LA apartment um unresponsive and he was rushed to Cedar Sinai um but he passed away um the next day um he did not leave a note but a lot of people said that um he was depressed at his waning career and he had been drinking heavily um and had even kind of said things about how he wished he could die and that type of thing so while maybe not totally suicidal or like saying he had a plan or anything he definitely was showing signs of some thoughts um but um and something interesting too it says like everything said he died of his injuries but they didn't say what they were um and I couldn't figure out what that was so um I'm not really sure but um that is just a really kind of sad case of a child star um yeah yeah that's very sad yeah all right so I'm gonna bring it back to musicians with the musicians um and our Richard James Edwards so Richie Edwards um born December 22nd 1967 and disappeared on February 1st 1995 so um yeah this is a little bit different because he disappeared and is presumed dead um and so he was actually so you disappeared in 1995 but he wasn't presumed dead until 2008 um so he was um a part of the band that managed street preachers he was a Welsh Welsh musician lyricist and rhythm guitarist um and he he was kind of like dark and like you know he was kind of political and he was very um eloquent like intellectual in his writing and things like that so but people kind of see him as having like cult status okay yeah um so he um he his bandmates were Nikki Weyer, Sean Moore, and James Dean Bradfield and the band um or he attended University of Wales from '86 to '89 and that's where he met the people that would become his future bandmates okay um so you know I guess some of the things that I want to talk about with him you know I'm trying to keep it brief because I know this is getting long um but he was somebody who definitely suffered with depression he was honest about it and talked about it um he also did a lot of self-harm via cutting or um like putting cigarettes out on his arms and you know there's a whole quote about how self-harm helps him um but a journalist in um like Steve Lamok he ended up you know questioning him about self-harm almost kind of like questioning whether that's part of the show or if that's a reel for him and so in response he carved the words for reel and do his forearms with the razor blade and yeah and that ended up requiring 18 stitches so that was definitely something real for him and it just pisses me off that a journalist thinks that it would be helpful to challenge somebody who's got those tendencies by almost feels like daring him to prove it yeah and I mean his department any capacity is yeah injurious and is something that you know people should take seriously like I remember I was talking to someone and like they were like well she only had like some someone had like disclosed to someone else I knew that was like that they were cutting and he was like well she only had like four cuts on her arm it's not like she was like cutting like seriously and it was like if she's cutting she's cutting like you know and it's funny because I know somebody um that you know was in a group that you know like a team group and um the therapist that you know one of the um the people in the group was talking about self-harm and that thing that she had cut and that therapist like lifted up the girl's sleeve in front of the group and said oh that's just superficial and I was like okay first of all you don't touch somebody and roll up their sleeve and show other people the scars unless they you know there there has to be a therapeutic reason to do any of that which in a group setting that wouldn't be appropriate but like I mean by saying oh those are just like superficial like what are you daring her to press harder like to me that was just like I don't understand people sometimes like let's be empathetic and and compassionate but let's not do things that are gonna inspire people to do more harm you know so she's really sad um and he you know he did suffer from insomnia so apparently he would often use alcohol to try to get himself to sleep oh okay um in 94 he checked himself into White Church Hospital and then later um the Priory Hospital um so he missed out on a lot of like work and like festivals and promotional stuff um so you know and then but he did have a final live appearance at the London Astoria on December 21st 1994 and that concert ended with them like smashing their instruments and all of that and they said that you know he was kind of like the the one who prompted that like because he was like violently destructive with his guitar and um yeah so anyways but that was his last appearance um and then I will say he had some odd behavior before the disappearance so he started they were gonna be heading to the United States and um and they were gonna do a tour for their album The Holy Bible and leading up to their departure date he was withdrawing 200 euro a day from his bank account so it was about like five thousand five hundred dollars in today's money um okay and that was just leading up to the day of the flight and we don't know if like maybe he was withdrawing the cash because he was planning to spend it well in the US I don't know um there was other rumors that he took it out because he was gonna pay for this desk that he ordered but there's no evidence of that really being a thing but the night before he went missing he gave a book called novel with cocaine to a woman named Emma Forest and he told her to read the introduction which details um a person staying in a mental asylum before vanishing so you know that kind of makes it seem like he was planning to disappear interesting okay um and then he um took a bunch of like books and videos and he put in a copy of the play I don't know how to say this line of equis EQ UUS equis maybe but he put him in a box with a note that says I love you and um and then they're he decorated with like collages and quotes from books um and then a Germanic looking um a house and Bugs Bunny and then he addressed it to his on and off again girlfriend um you know but so they had been on and off but they had split a few weeks earlier and so he sent that to her which again that kind of seems like he's planning to disappear a little bit yeah um so yeah so um then you know the day they were supposed to leave like he collected his wallet and his keys and prozac and his passport and he checked out of the hotel but he didn't take any like he didn't clean his toiletries out of the bathroom he had a packed suitcase that he didn't bring um and so you know it just seemed strange that he would leave those things behind since he was supposed to be you know coming to the United States on tour um but he just like went missing after that they did see that he was spotted in a new port um passport office and then a bus station by a fan that didn't realize he was missing but you know we don't know for sure if that was Edwards or not okay um and part of it was because they were making an assumption that a receipt from a toll bridge uh video was like 255 they didn't know if that was an am or pm um but it turns out that if he you know when they think he passed that location it was actually am so that throughout the timeline they were looking at oh wow okay yeah um so anyways but you know so people have said that they've seen him in like India or different islands or you know places around the world but there's nothing conclusive to say whether or not he's been seen and um you know but it just seems like he you know I mean you know there's no there there's like a a bridge that he was near and so there was some suspicion that maybe he had committed suicide by jumping off the bridge but his body was never found there's no evidence that you know that really happened um so he just kind of went missing but people do assume that he left to commit suicide because his depression and self-harm was so strong at the time okay um yeah so I mean it's just kind of a you know a sad thing but he was you know they did say that they think um you know that that uh they presume him to be dead and um yeah so you know we don't know for sure but that definitely is a thing that is probable given the time that he's been missing because you would think that if he just went away for a time you'd think he at some point he would reach out to somebody but there's no evidence that he ever came back or never like reached out to anybody so yeah I mean that to me is really interesting that he he hasn't reached out to anybody or anything yeah so and then just another interesting effect to something that you said was that um Kurt Cobain's suicide um coincided with the two-month marking of his disappearance um and that was the first anniversary of Kurt Cobain's suicide um yeah so just timing-wise it was interesting interesting okay yeah so we don't know for sure but he is presumed dead so part of the 27 club wow yeah I didn't know that one I didn't know that one yeah very sad though well I have another really sad rock star mom okay and someone I'm pretty sure will be inducted in the rock and roll Hall of Fame someday even if she can't be there yet she hasn't had music out long enough um but in night or in September of 1983 Amy Winehouse was born in London and she was raised primarily by her mother who was a pharmacist and her father who was a cap driver um she mostly lived with her mother after her parents divorced when she was nine years old um and her earlier she had been expelled from the seal the Sylvia Young Theatre School because she had a forbidden nose ring um and she really loved like acting and performing and stuff and so she ended up attending the apparently prestigious I didn't know this but Brit school um and she had like pretty renowned like acting and musical talent in the school um so at 16 she started performing with different jazz groups around London or like with folks she met at the school um and she released her debut album called Frank in 2003 um it was a hit and her voice and her kind of grit and her rawness was compared to that of Sarah Vaughan, Dinah Washington and Billy Holiday. She had a pretty tumultuous love life um while she was in the limelight um but she had a pretty consistent on and off again relationship with Blake Fielder Civil um and so she then released her second album which was Back to Black um and her that album kind of reflected her love life a bit in the tumultuousness and the up and downs that she was specifically feeling with Blake um but it had a much more like Motown and Soul feel like kind of classic vibes feel to it um and this is kind of where she started wearing her hair in a beehive and she kind of did the Cleopatra makeup as like a homage to the 60s and then in 2007 um she got married to Blake and it's around this time um unfortunately she began behaving quite erratically um she would be she would cancel shows be late to shows um she had several performances where she was suspected to be intoxicated whether drunk or under other influences we're not sure um she also had a reset or an arrest for weed possession in Norway um she also was struggling with an eating disorder she had anorexia um and so she was dealing with lots of weight loss and uh because of that um she and then also in 2007 uh Blake had been arrested after getting into a bar fight so she was dealing with all sorts of kind of difficult things all at once um and then in 2008 I actually remember this but there was the infamous photo of her um published where she was reportedly smoking crack cocaine um and obviously it made her kind of just I wouldn't say like you know gatekeeping or whatever from the music industry but she was not able to attain the visas in order to attend the Grammy awards um and that's crack is wack alumna crack is wack um Whitney Houston um but what they were able to do for her even though she could not physically be at the ceremony was they did a satellite performance for her and at that award she won five Grammys um she was also named the best-selling pop or rock female at the world music awards that year um so after that um later in 2008 she did attend rehab but she didn't stay very long and there were rumors that she was using again um so in 2009 she had divorced Blake um and spent the next few years really committing to trying to be clean she had supposedly been mostly clean from drugs but she was still kind of struggling with alcohol but was working towards getting completely sober um and so in 2011 she attempted to have a comeback tour and um there was an opening performance for the tour but she showed up and toxicated and it was canceled immediately the whole tour um within a month she had died um from alcohol poisoning it was found in her system she had five times the legal limit in her system and what a lot of people believe is that her body just couldn't take like a relapse after being clean for a few months or however long it had been um and so which is very tragic she did die in London um and then she post or someone posthumously released a duet she had done um with Tony Bennett it was the song Body and Soul um and she won a Grammy for Best um pop performance by a duo or a group after that um uh later on there they released an album of her unreleased songs and demos called Lioness Hidden Treasures and then the Amy documentary was released um which won an Academy Award for Best Documentary Wow she definitely yeah I haven't seen that but I would be interested in seeing that I feel like I did a long time ago um because I think it came out in the 2010s but um yeah but she just lived a really sad life and it's I always think it's harder when they're like starting to get clean or starting to kind of get their lives together and they pass so yeah that one's always good addiction so hard so yeah yeah but there are resources out there for anybody that's struggling but yeah I mean it's it's definitely an uphill battle all right well I'm gonna take us to a football player and um military vet oh uh Pat Tillman do you know who he is I have definitely heard the name so he was born November 6 1976 he died on April 22nd 2004 um he's born in Fremont California um but he got off a bus scholarship that took him to Arizona State University um and then he ended up playing for the Cardinals in the NFL uh which is very cool because my dad lives Arizona has season tickets to the Cardinals and I go to one game with him a year so very cool um but yeah he was like an honor student you know he graduated in three and a half years from ASU with a 3.85 GPA and then he was drafted into the NFL so um he played four seasons in the NFL um but eight months after the September 11th attacks he decided to join the military so he completed the 15 remaining games of his contract and then he turned down an offer for 3.6 million which would be 6 million in 20 22 time according to this article and it would be the 3.6 over three years to play for the Cardinals and he turned that down to a list in the army um because you know he wanted to fight back after the 9/11 attacks wow um so he joined the army rangers and he served actually his brother joined too um and he served in um Afghanistan um well at the so I mean he had served it a couple different places but Afghanistan was where he was at the time of his death and I remember when this first came out you know it was said that he was killed by an enemy fire but about a month later the Pentagon finally notified the family and admitted that he was killed by friendly fire oh wow and you know some people say that they were trying to like you know protect the military or you know keep it under wraps or whatever you know I don't know that might be true I don't know but some of it might just be they were trying to like process and make sure they had all the facts or you know whatever before they came to the family with the actual story but it is really sad I mean you know you're out there in one you know they were two different I don't know platoon groups or whatever um and they just didn't realize that they were on the same team and so there's all this other like gun fire going on and so these other this other group fired at his group and he was one of the ones that were killed so it's just very sad I mean totally accidental but um very sad now there were some people that said that after being in the war for a while that he started to um like make comments that were like anti-war or saying that it was all like bull sugar it wasn't being run well or whatever so some people didn't find that to be a popular opinion but there were others of us that probably agreed with some of that so yeah but anyways just very sad you know he was trying to do the right thing and like you know represent America and like you know fight against terrorism and stuff like that and to have something like this happen is really sad um so he was inducted in a college hall of fame in 2010 and the Arizona sports hall of fame in 2018 the military also promoted him from specialist which is me forward to corporal um and then he was given a silver star and purple heart battles the Arizona Cardinals have his jersey on display alongside his military jacket um and that was like on display during uh the Super Bowl which I think is cool that they did that too um and then he had several other like things that happened that you know that were nice so his family after his death his widow Marie Tillman established the Pat Tillman Foundation and so that's to help people that are striving for positive change in the world and she became the executive director um and then there was a highway bypassed around the Hoover Dam that has his name and you know Memorial Bridge and his name the Lincoln Law School in San Jose um established a Pat Tillman Scholarship uh on September 19 2004 the NFL all wore a memorial decal on their helmets and the Cardinals continue to wear that through that whole season um his number number 40 was retired um for the Cardinals and Arizona State did the same thing for number 42 that he wore as a Sun Devil um they also the Sun Devil Stadium made a Pat Tillman Memorial Tunnel and um they also started a Pat Tillman run which would support the Pat Tillman Foundation the NFL donated $250,000 to the United Service Organization to the USO which I think is really cool because you know being in the military was a big part of his life and it was very important to him um and the background error base um continues to support Pat Tillman Foundation and you know in order to salute his military service and the PAC 10 conference renamed their annual defensive player of the year award to um the Pat Tillman defensive player of the year award so I think that's very cool um his high school renamed their football field after him and um there were two books published about his life and um the um oh and then um following his death the Ohio State linebackers so H.A. Hawk and Bobby Carpenter and Anthony Schlegel um they all grew their hair out to represent him during that season which I think is kind of funny and cool yeah um and then a fellow ranger started a walk for Pat you know to raise money to for the Pat Tillman Foundation um yeah so anyways it just seems like a lot of people like really loved him and cared about him and so there was a lot of good that came out of it but it's so sad you know he thought he was doing the right thing and you know joining in the war effort and you know to die this way by friendly fire it's just really sad yeah wow and especially if maybe it was a war that he didn't really agree with anymore which you know there are different accounts of that so I don't know whether that's true or not but yeah yeah very that's good all right what do you got first well my last person um is someone that I personally wasn't very familiar with um like I had heard the name but just don't know a ton of the music um but his name is Fritos Santana do you know anything about him? Fritos Santana I don't think so so he um he was a originally born Derek Coleman um in July actually 4th of July but July 4th of 1990 um in Chicago and he got kind of involved in the underground rap scene in Chicago and his cousin is actually also a you know somewhat famous rapper named Chief Keith um I don't know either of them unfortunately learned a lot of things today um but he began kind of recording music in general around 2011 um and then released a mixtape uh in 2012 um called It's a Scary Site he then kind of continued making different mixtapes and things he released one called Frida Kruger in February of 2013 um and then he kind of got his quote unquote big break when he acted in one of Drake's music videos for the song Hold on we're going home um and in the music video he apparently is like trying to kidnap Drake's girlfriend um I don't know man um but after that music video released I think people kind of knew who he was a little bit um so he got um later so Halloween of 2013 so after this music video came out he actually released his full album called Trappenate Dead um and he was actually represented by a record company at this point um so then he decided to continue releasing mixtapes and things so he released a second one um or another mixtape called It's a Scary Site part two um in December of that year um he also released collaborations in February of 2014 with his cousin Kief um Chief Kief the rapper I mentioned earlier um in July of 2014 he had revealed that he was going to be um releasing a mixtape called Walking Legend which was going to be another uh album um and then he actually released his second full studio album called Frito Krueger 2 um in September of 9 or not 19 2017 um so I mean even that like that's a lot of music to release and like a very like a six-year span that's insane to me um but he collabed with a lot of rappers there were some names that I recognized there were some names I didn't recognize but all in all they had great things to say about him um but getting kind of into his untimely death so he was a heavy drug user um it's reported he tended to use Xanax and lean I don't know what lean is um but um I guess he had a lot of PTSD from his childhood growing up in the south side of Chicago that type of thing so he used a lot of drugs to cope with what he was feeling um and then in March of 2017 he was hospitalized after having a seizure um he kind of blamed it on having a heavy workload and not sleeping well and that type of thing um but then he was diagnosed with idiopathic epilepsy in May of 2017 after doing some tests and things um he was diagnosed capra to treat it but he continued having seizures um which unfortunately happens um so in October of 2017 he was hospitalized again after a friend Gino Marley found him seizing um and at this point he had blood coming out of his mouth and that was super concerning so they took him to the hospital and they diagnosed him there with kidney and liver failure um and at that point he had kind of expressed interest in going to rehab I'm not really sure if he was clean or not at that point um or going clean at that point but unfortunately we'll never really know um because in January on January 19th of 2018 he died of a seizure and undiagnosed cardiovascular disease um his girlfriend found him unresponsive at their apartment in recita um and by the time she found him it was too late unfortunately um they believed that both the seizures and his drug use could contribute to the cardiovascular disease but on top of that like I said he had the kidney and liver failure so yeah that's a lot looking great um health wise um unfortunately so um that's really his story he did have a young son who was about a year old when he passed um and so his kiddo is still alive and probably being raised by his family but um yeah it's all just very sad yeah that is really sad but that is my last one okay my last one is an actor all righty um and he was in many things he was actually in way more things than I realized um my two favorite characters for him are check up and um autumnous oh autumnous I know so you know who I'm talking about then mm-hmm okay Anton yelkin um and this is a very sad case of just a accident um but really sad so he was born on march 11th 1989 he died on June 19th 2016 um he was born in the soviet union russia um but he was a jewish in a jewish family um and you know the um you know he he had made a comment at some point when he was talking about his grandparents that they suffered in ways that he can't even begin to imagine under Stalin and so his family being jewish they did flee um you know they were able to get refugee status and you know because they were being religious uh religious persecution and oppression so um they weren't able to leave but before they did his parents were both figure skaters which and they were in the leningrad ice ballet for 15 years which I think is really cool and apparently they were so good they were third right nationally and so they qualified for the 1972 winter olympics but they weren't allowed to go and um you know yelkin said you know he doesn't know if it was because they were jewish or that kb kgb just didn't want them to travel but they weren't allowed to go so when they got refugee status and moved to the us when he was six years old um you know his family continued ice skating but his mom worked as a choreographer and dad was like a figure skating coach um and so and and actually the dad was sashta koen's first trainer which is also very cool wow so yelkin ended up growing up in the san frananda valley um and he he um when he went to college he actually went to usc to study film wow which i think is really cool and then one of the things that came out after he died was that he was somebody who dealt with cystic fibrosis oh wow so it doesn't say much else about that but they um they did develop a foundation in his name after his death um this was in 2017 but to support people with cystic fibrosis so i think that's cool even though i didn't know that about him when he was alive yeah i didn't know either yeah um so he actually had a lot of kind of cool hobbies like he really enjoyed playing guitar and he was into blues music which i think is really cool and um at some point in his life he played in a punk band called the hammerheads which i've never heard of but good for him um and then apparently he was also really into photography um and he had an exhibit at um in a new york city gallery which i think is really cool called anton yelkin provocative beauty um and i guess since his death his photographs have been like critically acclaimed by magazines around the world and they continue to exhibit his work so i've never seen any of his photography even now that i know that i would like to yeah they should totally make like a coffee table book i totally buy it yeah um and then just i thought this was cute so i added it but um he did date his co-star christian steward when they were filming fierce people and after he passed she described him as her first heartbreak and i was just like oh baby but yeah but i didn't know they were a thing i think that's cute even though you know i think you know she's on a different path now you can still love so i mean come on what is what is gender anyway yeah um so yeah so um i guess i'll just get into his deck because um yeah it's just such a tragic tragic accident so um so you know he was supposed to have a rehearsal and he didn't show up and this was on june 18 2016 and so his friends went to check on him um and this was about 1 10 a.m and they found him pinned between a brick pillar gate post that was outside of his house and his jeep grand Cherokee yeah um so it seems like as he got out of his car and maybe like went to lock the gator check for mail or something like that um the vehicle just started rolling back down the driveway which is pretty steep and it trapped him you know between the car and the pillar so i mean just basically pinned him there um and you know the corner just said that the causative was blunt traumatic asphyxiation um so cut off his airway yeah um but there is no like suspicious circumstances it just was an accident and you know it's just so sad because you wouldn't think something like that would i mean you're just not expecting something like that to happen you know yeah now apparently the theot chryster um manufacturer was aware of um the fact that the 2014 and 2015 models had high rates of roll-away incidents due to a gear shift design that was flawed um so like the driver would think that they put it in park but it was actually still in gear oh no so they knew about this and they had recalled like some of the grand Cherokees in april 2016 um but the the software patch to repair the vehicles did not reach dealers until the week of his death so even if he knew about it and planned to take care of it through the recall um they didn't have the um you know they didn't have the what they needed to fix it yet um and so you know of course after this theot chryster decided to out accelerate the recall campaign and um you know they were trying to get things repaired more quickly and then august first 2016 the parents um said that they were gonna file a wrongful death lawsuit against theot chryster um and that was a statement that came from their attorney um and the dealership where he purchased the vehicle stated that he was responsible for his own death because he had misused or modified the vehicle um and that and so the dealer asked to be removed from the lawsuit like okay don't sue us you could sue theot chryster automotive as a whole but don't sue with the you know the um dealer directly um but on march 22nd 2018 they had a confidential settlement out of court so we don't know any of the details about that um but i'm sure they had to pay out of their asses for it because you know if you know this was a thing you should have been yeah making sure you thought those recalls done very quickly and you know but it's just so sad and but but then to try to like act like it was his fault when you knew that was like a recall yeah i mean that's not i mean corporations right they'll do anything to cover their asses but that's yeah so sad just so tragic yeah so and he was a good he just seemed like a really nice person so it's sad to have somebody have like a horrible accident like that yeah no he seemed like a real sweetie anytime i saw him in and there we were something he seemed really just kind you know and i realized i do have one more and i'm just gonna do this one really quick okay um because i totally thought i was done but i'm not oh sorry i know it's getting long um so my last one is Tyler Wayne Skaggs um he was a left-handed professional pitcher for the Arizona Diamondback so we got two and one he played for the Angels too um one i guess i should say he was playing for the Angels at the time of his death but um you know because we had another athlete from Arizona i'm just gonna say that um so he's somebody that grew up in Woodland Hills went to Santa Monica high school um he was a first round selection for the Angels and um oh no so he was traded the Diamondback so he did play for the Diamondbacks at the time of his death oh wow uh he played in a couple of all-star games um yeah um so but his his death was um it was in uh June 30th 2019 um apparently he had texted Eric Kay who is the communication instructor for the Angels and he asked for painkillers and um you know so so anyways but later that night he wasn't responding to his wife's like text or good night call and he always would respond to her when he was on the road um and so the next day he was found unresponsive in his hotel room and he was pronounced dead at 2 18 p.m. when authorities arrived at the scene and they discovered that he had a number of pills in his room um and there was 30 milligram um oxycodone pills and then five milligram oxycodone pills also and then anti-inflammatories and then a white powder on the floor wow um and they had been like on a four game series against the Rangers and um so you know both teams agreed to postpone this series um you know because of his death and you know whatever um so the initial statement by the Southlake Police Department was that neither suicide nor foul play were suspected so you know that it was like an accidental death um and then the medical examiner who was doing the autopsy estimated that it would determine the cause of death within three months so kind of a long time but what they found was that he had a mix of fentanyl oxycodone and alcohol in his system and that his blood alcohol level was 0.12 wow um so what they determined his cause of death was that he affiliated on his vomit okay um yeah which is really sad so he was probably just you know out of it and kind of drugged up and you know vomited and then aspirated on it and died um so it's just really sad because again you know I mean I hate to hear people dealing with addiction but you know you never want to hear somebody their life ending like this yeah absolutely and um yeah so he did have some a lot of like outpouring of love from you know MLB fans um you know and so like they they were number 45 on their jerseys to represent him um they were nicknames that honored him um all the angels players were the 45 patch for the um towards the end of the 29 until the end of the 2019 season um yeah so I mean just released that and after his death his wife and mother started the Tyler Scaggs Foundation meant to support children in the athletic programs and the MLB donated 45,000 to the foundation which is really nice um now obviously there were some legal things that came into this because um you know I mean it was clear that he had asked Kay to give him some painkillers and so on October 13th uh the DAA um was investigating and Kay told the authorities that he had provided oxycodone to Scaggs for years and um he gave the names of five other players within the organization and he also believed we're using opiates so wow uh but he ended up being arrested and indicted by a federal grand jury for charges related to Scagg's death um and then his trial date was posted one a couple of times because of COVID-19 um and then there was like complications from the 2021 Texas power crisis which I don't know what that is but I apologize um apparently I wasn't paying attention to whatever that was but that went like okay maybe I'm like putting things together weirdly but wasn't that one like everyone in Texas was like if every like power was out and people were like freezing to death and then Ted Cruz went to Mexico and everyone like like lost their minds at Ted Cruz for like going to Mexico. I remember Ted Cruz being in trouble for going to Mexico um yeah I don't but I thought that was a COVID-19 thing but I don't know but um but yeah I don't know what that is but apparently that was a thing um and then after three years of delay they finally started the trial and um some of the teammates to testify that Kay had provided them with oxycodone pills uh and then uh one of the players said that uh he had provided Scagg's with Percassette on several occasions as well so on February 17th Kay was found guilty on two accounts relating to the deaths so distribution of controlled substance resulting in death and a conspiracy to possess with an intent to distribute controlled substances. Wow. So um the verdict came in after only 90 minutes and he was sentenced to 22 years in prison. Wow okay. So um and then this his widow ended up in his parents filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Kay and the angels and the former angels vice president communications because you know apparently like Kay had a history of doling out substance substances to anybody that wanted them and acting like they were medication even though you know that wasn't really his role or whatever. Right. Uh-huh. So you know it's just really sad but um yeah on December 12th 19 or 2019 um the players union agreed to start regularly testing uh players for opioids and cocaine um and so you know after that no opioid violations were found in the first two years after that testing was implemented so it did work for a short time um but anyways you know just another really sad case and you know he was asking for pain meds and you know if you're a professional athlete I'm sure you have all kinds of aches and pains and you know injuries and things that you're trying to play through so um you know just really sad that he had that perfect mix of fentanyl oxycodone and alcohol that was deadly you know it's so sad. Well in fentanyl I mean we can not we don't have time to go down that whole rabbit hole but that is such a dangerous substance that is fabulous terrifying very present right now so yeah it's all very so anyways that's finally my last one. So we got through it that was a lot y'all so thanks for sticking with us but yeah such talented people and it's so sad to see so many of them die so yeah yeah absolutely absolutely well um I'm gonna keep this short and sweet because I think we're all tired here. Hopefully you had you cleaned your whole apartment or went on a road trip or something but um I guess you can check us out on Instagram at @whatheelpod um you could DM us or email us @whatheelpod@gmail.com if you have any story ideas or personal stories anything like that and then we do have a lovely little patreon you could follow we have our February bonus episode up and our March one is in the works um but outside of that I just want to say I appreciate you all sticking with us and I appreciate you mama. I appreciate you baby have a good night y'all. Bye friends.