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Jeff Poor Show - Tuesday 7-30-24
[MUSIC PLAYING] From Bucks Pocket to the shores of Orange Beach, at all points in between, an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Porsche Show. I don't think Hank done it this way. [MUSIC PLAYING] Good morning. Welcome to the Jeff Porsche Show of the Fup Talk, 106.5. Good evening, morning to you. Thank you for listening. We do appreciate it. Text line need to be in touch with the show. All you've got to do is text me 251-34-301-06. That's your best way of being in touch with the program. Go up on the program today, here in about a half hour. We'll kick it off with the state auditor, Andrew Sorogus, thoughts on the current political climate, and what's going on in the auditor's office. Always interesting to talk about that. Also on the program, remember this gentleman. He ran for governor in 2018. Now it was a kind of a weird cycle. Remember, KIV had inherited the governor's role from Robert Bentley, and it was up for re-election in 2018. But she did draw some opponents, the mayor of Huntsville, Tommy Battle 1. You may remember also, as well, the Bill Hightower, the former state senator from our neck of the woods here. And a gentleman named Scott Dawson, who I get my preacher evangelist, I guess, is the term that he would prefer. But he's still involved. And well, he runs the Scott Dawson Evangelistic Association, had a big production at a church in Gatlinburg with Kanye West a few years ago. It's very active on that front. And I needed someone to come on to talk about the Olympics and the Last Supper portrayal, even though we're told it's not. But we're going to talk about that. And faith in general under attack. I'm telling you guys, it's all about shock value right now. That's what it looks like to me. And that's what we're dealing with. How much more shocking can he get? We'll have to wait and see on that. And then finally, in the 11 o'clock hour, since it is Tuesday, we always talk to Alabama Republican Party Chairman and John Wall. So a lot of reasons for you to stay tuned for that. A few things going on in the news. Looks like there's a Senate hearing under way right now about the assassination in the attempt on Donald Trump. The acting Secret Service Director, since the-- I guess a transition phase after the attempt will be speaking. But we'll see we need more answers. The House had their shot. Now, the Senate's taking their shot on this. And we'll see where this heads-- I don't know. I'm always very-- as you know, if you've listed this show for any time, always skeptical of these congressional panels. I mean, are they kind of serve a purpose? But what do we ever get out of them? You force members of the administration to come testify on their oath, and then they just sort of obfuscate. They dodge. There's nothing-- we still don't know what happened in 2012 in Libya and Benghazi, do we? The January 6 special-- I mean, all of these commissions and panels and hearings, they don't have any bite to them. I guess I suppose if you're Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro, if you thumb your nose at them, they could put you in jail. Assuming you have a sympathetic DOJ, if not, it's folly. So anyway, that's going on right now. So I think to kick off the new buzz word for the left is weird. But I tell you what, ladies and gentlemen, there's all of these little campaign events. They're doing these Zoom call campaign events. They got white men for Kamala Harris. They have white women for Kamala Harris. They have-- I don't know what else they have, but they have it. And they're doing these Zoom calls, and they're just mockable. Guys, let's go back to 2020. Kamala Harris, she is running for president and has kind of a disappointing presidential campaign. On paper, she is the Democrat of dream candidate, female black or minority. Well, whatever you want to claim, she's a minority. So one of her resume was a prosecutor. Just a lot of different things, the Democrats' treasure, covet, whatever, and their candidates. And so what happened, though, was just, like I said, it was a very disappointing lackluster effort. She gives, for about 15 minutes, gives Joe Biden a run for his money, but then just kind of fades into the relevancy, and then drops out. And then when they're doing their autopsy, like Axios and pull the code on all these sites, cite people within that campaign, the 2020 Kamala Harris campaign, and then it was, well, they were too honed in on what people were saying on social media. They were being led by Twitter. They were being led by Instagram and Facebook. And I think that's what she's doing again right now. Like, there is this tendency to use social media, sort of a focus group, from politicians. Well, what are they saying on Twitter? What are they saying on Facebook? And use that as a-- to just bouncing it off of social media, your policy is good or bad, or whatever they may be, and using that as your guidepost, using that as-- but social media is, well, first off, it's way too fast. It's way too quick. It's way too knee jerk. It's not reliable in like a scientifically conducted focus group, but the Harris campaign did this in 2020, and it failed miserably for it. It just did not work out. I kind of see these Zoom calls. I see all these like groups that are very demographic oriented, and you can't help but wonder, like, are they falling into this trap once again? Are they using social media to point them in what direction they need to go on a policy basis? And it's evident. I mean, so in 2020, you're running for the Democrat nomination, and she's anti-fracking, and anti-this, and pro-this. And when you're running for president, instead of your party's nomination, you do moderate a bit. There's no question about it. But that's been the case in American politics for 100 years. Well, she's trying to moderate, I don't know what-- I don't know what the game is here. We haven't seen an interview. All we see is they've tried it out some weird talking points, literally weird. They get their media, and I am in all of this. In fact, I need to play like a master cut of this. It's just incredible the fidelity to what the Harris campaign can pull off when it comes to just getting people to go along with a plan. They just go. And they do so, and I don't know if it has any impact or whatever, but they do that. But we haven't seen her. She hasn't been grilled by Lester Holt, or David Mure, or whoever. She had to answer for any of this. I don't expect them to do hard-hitting interviews from the person they want to be president of the United States. She's avoided any of this scrutiny, so kind of back to this weird cult of weird. Let's see if we can get this going here. Some of what Ian is learning, they are saying, well, it's just plain weird. That's come on, Harris. Here we go. These guys are just weird. That's where they are. As weird and creepy as JD Vance, a super weird idea from JD Vance. Yeah, it's not. I mean, it's quite weird. They're just plain weird. Just plain weird. Just plain weird. That stuff is weird. They come across weird, and then they start being weird. Yeah, they're weird. Being a really weird-- It's such a weird up here. Home Trump and his weirdo running, they're weird. Deeply and profoundly weird. They are weird. These Republicans just being weird. It's just weird. It's really weird. Republican weirdness goes even deeper. He said a lot of things that are weird, weird style that he brings. Weird policy. What is it with the weird thing? Because it is a thing. It's just plain weird. What was weird was talking about diet Mountain Dew. Who drinks diet Mountain Dew? Whoever seen the guy laugh, and that seems very weird to me that an adult can go through six and a half years of being in the public eye. If he has laughed, it's at someone, not with someone. That is weird behavior. Weird and cultish. These are weird people on the other side. He kind of doubled down on his weird ideas. I think weird is probably generous, simply weird. These guys are just plain weird. Vance is weird. You know, as the campaign said, weird. It really is just plain weird. JD Vance is plain weird. I mean, I don't know how you can read it. Weird. It is kind of weird. We're not afraid of weird people. On the other side, they're just weird. Why are you being so weird? Vance has done something more extreme, more weird. No matter what kind of weird stuff they keep saying. Trump and Vance are just weird. In addition, it should be dangerous to the boss. That's the weird part that's the most engaging. Who he addressed as "my beautiful Christians," which was super weird. Weird tech bro, JD Vance. He's a weird guy. JD Vance, uneasy and sort of weird. Frankly, for lack of a better word than he's weird. Castig remarks that aren't even funny. And he kind of shows that he can't really deliver one liner. So Sam, weird is the word here. Well, you get to point. They are wedded to this terminology in it. And it was weird. I just wish Republicans could do something like that. And go on and speak in one voice and concert. How do you do that? But they talk about Republicans and the cult of Donald Trump. Holy cow, guys. I don't think that every day, average, rank and file Democrats go around and think this way and talk this way. I'm going to tell you this. I don't think any of that really matters to the public at large. This is all stuff that I think what they're doing right now. They're just trying to reinforce their true believers that this was the right decision. The Kamala Harris was the one. And all of these weird, weird, weird, weird things that they keep saying it's not for you and I, obviously. But I don't think it's for the general electorate at all, either. 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. But how about this? Embarrassing. It's that kind of stuff you're seeing throughout this campaign early on. And they go after Vance. I don't know why they're-- I guess they think Trump's kind of-- yesterday's news to beat up on. But I'm telling you what I think is going on. I think they are just oralists, making sure that they have coalesced behind Kurt Kamala Harris. 2-5-1-3-4-3-0-1-0-6. You'll be right back. This is the Jeff Porsche Show with a flip talk, 1-0-6-5. [MUSIC PLAYING] Oh, I'm leaving on that midnight strange moment. And I know just where I'm going with a heck of my troubles and I'm throwing them all away. [MUSIC PLAYING] Welcome back to the Jeff Porsche Show with a flip talk, 1-0-6-5. Thanks for sticking around on this Tuesday morning. We do appreciate it. Silicon next segment, Andrew Sorrell, our state auditor, will be with us, so please stay tuned for that. Let's see here. A name texture, what you're saying about Kamala and social media sounds like what Trump does also. He uses a sounding board. But not like they-- not in official capacity, not organized. Like they acknowledge what they did, failed them in 2020, that they were too concerned about TikTok hits and whatnot. Maybe Trump does it, but not in a organized sort of institutional fashion. I don't know. Do you think Donald Trump sits around and reads his replies? But these people do. And that was what backfired. Like I said, that's what they will readily acknowledge, but it feels like they're falling back into that trap. So would you use this buzzword attack? And it-- yes, on cable news, it's easy to point out. But they're also looking at the analytics on social media, guys. They're looking-- I mean, and they get the best stuff. I mean, Facebook and not so much Twitter/X anymore, but they get the heat map, and they get everything they need. They get the targeting that they are-- and they pay for it, too. But they have the good stuff. It's just that does the average voter in America, the presidential election of 2024, rely on social media as much as these people do? I have watched these campaigns for years, guys. I am telling you, I know how these people who work on these campaigns think. First off, they have a cult-like allegiance for the candidate they're working for, a lot of them. I mean, some of them are seasoned enough to know it's just a job. They want to win, and they're going to work hard to win, but they're very careful about getting too emotionally wrapped up. But a lot of them-- I mean, they just sit around and read Facebook comments all day. You know what I'm talking about? Dan Harris was exposed by Gabber during that debate and never recovered. I mean, well, she got to be vice president, Dan. She's going to be the Democrat nominee. This is where they make their mistake. She probably could not have won a Democrat primary. They probably won a Kamala Harris all along, but they didn't want a challenger on the far left. And the people who typically vote in Democrat primaries are far left activists. They would have gone more Bernie Sanders. It's just the way the country's going on the far left. And this was a way around it, I suppose. dirt digger Joe and the Democrats are going to spend-- going to limit the Supreme Court that they need to limit themselves first. We don't need lifetime politicians. This is-- Joe Biden has been in office for 55 years. And now, in the last three, four months of his time in public life, he's going to do something like this. Don't kid yourself. This is not a serious proposal. This is a joke. It has no prayer of going anywhere. They don't even want it, but they know that it's not going to happen. So that's why they offer it. Uh, I need to text her. Jeff, that Jeff Davis guy, why do you pay for that segment? I'm wanting him to tell me that my right, she goes on my right-- that is those decisions are beyond or above my pay grade. And she never recovered from her presidential campaign. She was appointed VP and a current candidate. Yeah, I agree with that. I don't know if she's ever done that wrong. See, let's get a break of your beer right back. This is the Jeff Moore show. We'll have to talk about 065. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] Now, if your leather jacket means to you, what this hat means to me, then I get-- I miss my son not to do the things I've done. Walk away from trouble if you can. [MUSIC PLAYING] We'll go back to the Jeff Moore show. What if I'm talking about 065? They should stay with us on this Tuesday morning 2513-- 3, 4, 3, 0, 1, 0, 6 is the text line I see him coming in. We will get to those over the course of the program. Still to come on the program. Scott Dalsy, remember him, he ran for governor in 2018. He'll be with us at the 10 o'clock hour. And then as we do every Tuesday, John Wall from the Alabama Republican party, so stay tuned for that. Joining us now on the line, he is our state auditor. Always a pleasure to bring on Andrew Sorrell. I tell everybody, we're trying to get you out about what's a month, I think. But I just kind of keep us plugged in about what's going on. Before we get into what's going on in your office there, auditor, let's talk about the politics of the day. I mean, since the last time we talked, which was in June, I mean, the world is changed significantly, hasn't it? It has, and in ways that in some ways we expected, and in some ways we were still surprised. You can be expecting something and still be surprised when it happened. I think that's exactly what happened. I didn't think Joe Biden was going to let it go. I really didn't. But I thought that was the only way they were going to change the nominee, is if he himself stepped aside. The delegates that were pledged to him were not going to abandon him at the convention. The only way they vote for somebody else is if he released them, which is what ended up happening. Yeah, well, I mean, I was too surprised that he let go of it. I always saw that the Harris Planels Plan B, but he was never going to let it happen. I don't think this is a, it's an upgrade, but I don't think it's a significant upgrade. I mean, I look at it strategically. She has not been that impressive, at least now. I mean, maybe this change is, but she is not been that impressive out on the stump. She's got less of an excuse than Joe Biden for all her bumbling to mumblings. Joe Biden, at least you can say, well, he's 80 years old. I mean, what's Kamala's excuse? You know, she has some of the most obnoxious, ridiculous clothes and clips. She'll go to 20 events in a row and say the exact same thing and never vary it up a bit. I mean, she doesn't seem to be a very good order. She doesn't have, it appears a lot of original thoughts. There's a lot of talk about how she climbed the ladder so quickly. So, there's a lot of good material there. And I think the one question she should be asked over and over and over it, at what point did you know that Joe Biden was no longer capable of carrying out his duties as president? And what did you do about it? That's a question I think it's very fair to ask because she was out there in the media lying to everybody saying, "Oh, Joe Biden's in great health. Oh, his mind is sharp. I just left a meeting with him. Joe Biden is sharper than he's ever been." And that's obviously just a lie now and everybody knows it. And I think she's trying to gaslight us and say something otherwise. I think she's had a good rollout as best as she could have. Now, she's gotten a big assist from the media, but man, they are, they have the talking points down. It is, while it is very disappointing and disheartening, they'll see it. It's impressive just how wedded to whatever they pump out as the conventional wisdom of the moment the media are to help her try to get elected. Well, anytime you have a rollout and you raise $200 million in the first seven days, if you roll out, that's a pretty good rollout by any stretch. And that doesn't include the $96 million that she was able to roll over from Joe Biden. So she's sitting right now on $300 million and she's only been the presumptive nominee for a little over a week. So, yeah, Republicans need to be scared. I mean, Trump is raising a lot of money, but I think Kamala could overtake him. I think a lot of the big Democrat donors were holding back to leverage Joe Biden to get out of the race. And then once he did, I think all the floodgates opened. But the amazing thing to see is it wasn't just the big donors. I mean, it was the small donors, millions of them, a lot of donors, I forget the number of something like 75% of the donors were first-time donors that never donated to anyone before and now they're donating to Kamala for president. So that should be concerning. Also concerning, the Democrats just registered 100,000 new voters and 84% of the 100,000 they registered are under age 34. Well, I got to tell you, those people under age 34, probably most of them are not voting Republican. Of course, if they were registered by the Democrats, you can almost be sure that they weren't voting Republican. And I don't know that the Republicans have any voter registration drives really to match that. So there's some unsettling things on the horizon as far as this election is concerned. I mean, I know we're polling in pretty good shape, the swing state looked pretty good for Trump, but overall, Trump's only a point nationwide in most of the polls. So this is not by any stretch over. There's 100 days left or maybe we're down to 99 now, days before the election. And that's an eternity and anything can happen. I remember thinking in 2020, there was no way Trump could lose the election, the economy was roaring, everything was just wonderful. And then what happened, COVID hit and completely changed the election. So you just never know what's going to happen in politics. So we don't need to just assume we're going to be OK. I do see the fundraising signs, the energy signs on the Democrats are somewhat concerning to me. Well, this is sort of momentum and the momentum is shifted forward. But this level of intensity for the next 98 days, I don't think they can do it. I mean, and I say this, even for them, it would be ridiculous to keep this up. With their convention next month, they got a back off a little to make the convention special, right? But there's no way this is sustainable. I don't know what kind of a twist it turns this is going to take, but this honeymoon will come to an end at some point. Well, it absolutely will. But let's look at how we got here, how Donald Trump is up by one point. But what events led to Trump being ahead by one point in the polls? Well, you go back to the debate at the end of June, which I thought was a strategic error on the part of the Trump campaign to debate Joe Biden that early. If they had waited until after the convention and Joe Biden was the nominee and then debated Joe Biden in September, Trump would have been an absolute lock for president. But because Trump debated early, the Democrats had time to basically do a trial run, Joe Biden performed poorly. And now they're swapping them out, we've got to deal with it completely, other candidate, we don't necessarily have all the opposition research done, we're just not organized to run a campaign against Kamala as much as we were against Joe Biden. So that happened, the debate, then what's the next thing that happened? Well, there's an assassination attempt. And anytime you have an assassination attempt, I mean, rightfully so, there's going to be a lot of sympathy out there from the public, the voting public for that person, especially the way Trump responded with his fists in the air saying fight, fight, fight, that fired people up. Then we rolled into the Republican convention. And then what was the new story there? Who is Trump going to pick for vice president? Well, then it was JD Vance, then we had the whole convention, so we've had the post convention polling bump. So everything for a solid month was, in the media, was detention on Trump, how bad Joe Biden is, who's Trump's going to pick? And here's the convention, a free week of media, basically, all in three. I mean, the convention costs a lot of money, but you're not buying ads, the media is putting your stuff on TV for you for free. Now what's about to happen? It's all about reverses. Now the story is Joe Biden dropped out, who's it going to be? Okay, well, now we know it's going to be Kamala. What's the next story? Who's Kamala going to pick as VP? That's what everyone's talking about right now. And then it's going to be, oh, the Democrat convention. So where's the polling going to stand at the end of August? That's what I need to see. Then things have kind of stuttled out, and then we get into the real meat of the campaign season. So the fact that Trump is up one point, before the Democrats can mention, before she announces probably like a Shapiro, from Pennsylvania or somebody like that, it's a running mate. That could change Trump's up four in Pennsylvania right now. What if that state flips with those strategic pick on Kamala's part? There's so much we don't know. So I think we're sitting in a good position, but we are definitely not a lot. There's done a lot of things that have boosted our polling the last 30 days. And I think that's going to flip on us for the next 30. Well, this is what it sounds like to me. I mean, if you're advising Republicans out there, there's some Republicans here watching what's going on here that they're a little panicked, not one of them. I'm just in all of how this week has been going, but I think you're right. I think like let's watch how this settles out, not saying that you just kind of sit and lay low, but before we get emotionally exercised about what's going on out there in the presidential election, see where this is headed, and probably a good time to reassess would be about a month from now. I agree with everything you just said. And I think if you're Republicans right now, you're doing a deep dive on Kamala in a way you've never done it before. I mean, when somebody runs for vice president, yeah, you do some background on them and stuff, but it's not like that they are not the candidate for president, not the same level of intense scrutiny. Republicans need to see what they could find on Kamala because the Democrats have sure investigated Donald Trump and JD Vance, which brings me to my next point. We need to be investigating all of the potential vice president picks just like Kamala's campaign is vetting him right now. We need to be vetting him so that when she picks one of them, we're ready to go with messaging on day one about what a liberal person this is and here's all the terrible things they've done that kind of, you know, take some of the shine off the announcement of who the VP is. So those are the things I'd be working on right now, get past this convention, and then Trump's got to prepare for debate with Kamala, which is going to be very different when you're debating a woman, which thankfully Trump has done before, right? I mean, we saw it in 2016, and I thought he performed well in the debates against Hillary Clinton, but debating a woman is different than debating a man, and you cannot beat up on him. Keeping up on a woman in debate gives sympathy to the female, and you got to be very, very careful about that. What? Those are some of the things. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Well, you know, vetting the vice presidential candidate right now, they're having to run like a hurry up offense. Usually it takes a little while. I think they're, I mean, I think there's a potential risk here for Democrats in rushing this process with the VP the way they are. I don't know what they, you know, what they would miss or what would happen, but that there's certainly that potential, right? No doubt. I mean, yeah, it's a short time period. They've got, you know, three weeks to analyze somebody before the convention, and the voters have 99 more days, and the opposition researchers are Republicans have 99 more days, and once their pick is locked in, I mean, they're stuck with them. So I do think that there's some additional risk there on the side of the Democrats. Anytime you move quickly in politics, there's always risk that you messed something up. Another thing, I think Democrats are betting big here. This may be the Waterloo moment for Democrat, the current Democrat establishment, because Andrew and I don't know, I mean, maybe they pull it off, but if they don't, what do you know, like your average Democrat watching this, they were told that we need to go with Joe Biden in 2020, and then you go through this primary process. It's all, they just toss it to the side, and no, we're going to go this direction now. And you know, it sort of reminds me of this, and we went through Bob Dole, Bush twice, McCain and Romney, and two and three, right? And then we got, and then finally in 2016, Republicans just said, okay, we're going to do it our way, and they all went with Trump, that this is the last gas for Democrats, to the current Democrats establishment, Schumer, Pelosi, et cetera, he declinsed, even though Obama's a some degree before there's sort of an internal party revolt. I think if they lose to Trump, again, I do think that there will be a big reassessing on the part of Democrats, and I think that was due in 2020, and then we all know what happened with the 2020 election, Joe Biden squeaked it out by, you know, 0.2% and 0.3% and a couple of the key states and all that, when you get into all the election integrity problems and everything. But Jeff, one thing you got to remember about Democrats, and it's like, they don't necessarily get whiplash, like Republicans would say, hey, wait, we just picked this nominee, and now, like, no one's voting for him at the convention, we're just picking, oh, he just picked the nominee for us, the guy who dropped out is picking our next nominee, I mean, we would have whiplash from that as Republicans. Democrats are very good at just getting in line and doing what they're told, and to illustrate my point, look, what happened during the COVID pandemic? No. They were happy to stay home and wear their mask and so did all the things they were being told to do. They were happy to just get in line and do them and get a vaccine, all about all those mandates. They didn't have a problem with it. Well, but there will be a time for reassessment for them. I don't know when that comes. They may be loyal when the going gets tough, but when you lose another election, I just I think this is a big, big, big gamble by the Democrat establishment. This is there like this is a Hail Mary pass because this has never happened before. Well, look, it's a big gamble, but it's not as much of a gamble as even Joe Biden on the ballot, right? I mean, we all agree about that. No way. Let's talk to him about why Joe Biden dropped out. Joe Biden didn't drop out because he had a bad debate performance because he couldn't keep his thoughts together or whatever. That's been going on for years and we all know it. We've seen him stumbling up the stairs. We've seen him referring to people by the wrong name. None of this stuff is new. Democrats did not care. The only thing they cared about was when his poll numbers dropped to the point where they thought there's no way we win this election, then they threw him overboard. That's what happened. Democrats would have been happy to leave Joe Biden on the ballot. Even after we all saw him expose himself that he couldn't keep his train of thought back on June 26. I think it was in the debate. They didn't happen to leave him there if he had still been polling ahead of Donald Trump, but he wasn't. So they had to get rid of him. George Biden, state auditor, Andrew Sorel, Andrew, just a few more minutes here. How are things going in your office these days? We haven't talked about that in a while. Yeah. So, you know, things are going to be relatively slow until legislative session kicks off as far as trying to get in duties of my office expanded. I've got the bill drafted. It's sitting on my desk. I made some slight revisions. I think I talked about that when I was on with you a month ago. The revisions we made, the suggestion of the rules, chairman and the house, I think are going to help the bill be more likely to pass and really didn't take anything out of the bill. I didn't have to weaken the bill. I just changed what I called. It changed from the investigations division to the property investigations division. That's going to get rid of some of the heartburn that was in the caucus over the bill. So, what we're focusing on doing right now is the duties that are already assigned under law. We had board of adjustments the last two weeks. Those meetings that I've been attending had some very large claims, had a million dollar claim that we're going to be deciding here next month at our voting session. And then the auditing, the actual property audits that we're doing, we met with me and some of my senior staff, met with one of the largest departments in state government that last time we audited them they were missing two million dollars of inventory. By the way, we finally found 1.3 million of that, but 700,000 the state just in essence had to write off. And, of course, there are excuses where we just came out of COVID, we lost track of stuff and whatever. We've been working with them very hard the last year and a half that I've been in office to try to prep them for the next audit. We had a pre-audit meeting with them for about an hour. There were probably 15 or 20 of us in the room and I'm optimistic this audit is going to go much, much better. So we'll find out here in a couple of months that that agency alone will take us five weeks to audit. Our entire staff will take five weeks just to do that one audit. We'll best of luck on that audit. Hey, we got you out of here. Thanks for making time for us. Let's talk again soon. Thanks, Jeff. See you later. All right. State auditor Andrew Sorrell. We're going to get a break here. We'll be right back. This is the Jeff Moore show with us a talk. 1065. We're going to get a hotter need for mountain moonlight, older uptight, make a little love in, a little turn of love in on a mason dixon night, fits my life, oh, it's all right. My deep sea landed light. More, much more than this. I did it my way. Yes, there were times I'm sure you knew when I did all the way back to the Jeff Moore showed up and talked about a 65 nature hanging out with us on this Tuesday morning, 55 minutes after the hour still come on the program in the next hour, Scott Dawson. Once again, Scott Dawson, he's a pastor or preacher, I guess, is more appropriate. He ran for governor in 2018 against Tommy battle and Bill high tower came up short. Remember that gubernatorial election, just like everyone, Governor Ivy has been in. She has avoided a runoff in her primary despite having face crowded fields in both of those elections. But he comes to us, we're going to talk to him about this, I know it's been a few days and we've kind of hit it, hit it, hit it, but I did what the Olympics and just sort of the outrage and the explaining away and how dumb and uneducated you are. We really weren't trying to offend you. You stupid people. They can't help themselves, but we're going to we're going to have another discussion about that in the next hour, then the Republican Party chairman, John Wall will be with us where we're out of the convention. We've had a every time we talk, something different happens. We'll see where this is going. If he agrees with Andrew, like look, block tackle, do what you got to do for a successful presidential campaign, let the Democrats have their or do whatever it is with their weird quote, unquote talking point. There's zoom calls, which speaking, a very peculiar those I'm telling you guys, if you have access to the Internet and you have the time and aware with all, go watch some clips from white women for Harris and you'll just be like that. It's just it's like another planet. So we'll see what chairman wall is thinks of the current state of politics. So toothless bammer, enjoy the Jeff Davis minute, turn the dial if you don't like Jason. When do you think Biden would want presidential immunity considering all he's been involved in now? That's weird. Um, Jason, he knows that this is never going to pass guys. This is all a dog and pony show with these judicial, these Supreme Court reforms. We're back, this is a five o'clock, one oh six five from bucks pocket to the shores of Orange Beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on Alabama politics. It's the Jeff Port show, I don't think this way back to the Jeff Port show. What if I'm talking about a six five hour number two now under way on Ron Roe, the acting director of the US Secret Service still testifying up on Capitol Hill on the Senate side this morning, talking about all sorts of different issues that had arisen during the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, but you know, like a guy's in the perception this and correct me if I'm wrong, like the Secret Service, they operate with sort of a flawlessness, a machine like precision, they're giving great, great authority. What's interesting to me is, and I think the media, the media supporting the Democrat nominee really, really want to downplay the assassination episode, it's, you know, Google searches or whatever. But watching this and watching all the, the networks, MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News broadcast it, it's wall to wall. Why aren't they backing away from this, at least on MSNBC or CNN. So there's still a lot of attention here, but at least it leads me to believe that despite the Kamala Harris, honeymoon, there's, this is still very, very important to me. What, what, in addition to that, like, why would Democrats care, Democrats, what, didn't they want Donald Trump to go away or whatever, but no, this is the problem, guys. I don't think these, I don't think the Democrats, there are some really bad people out there who probably wanted Donald Trump to be shot that day, the vote Democrat, and there's our question about it. For the most part, they don't want that. They know that something, an episode like this helps Donald Trump politically and why they're mad, maybe it's self serving, it is very, very self serving, to me, to be honest. But this failed assassination attempt potentially gives Trump five to ten points in the polls and maybe some places and then that's what they are really upset by about, whatever. That's why you see some Democrats, you know, just like Secret Service do your job and let's win this thing fair and square and don't give Republicans any free shots here. That's what you did, you, you by being, by not doing your job, you, you gave them a free shadow goal. Let's see here, Jerry, lessons learned from Venezuela. You can't vote your way out of communism and never give up your firearms. We'll see where Venezuela heads. I mean, I don't think that's a good situation for the ruling regime at all. Unnamed textor, she's being funded by the Chinese, I assume you're referring to Miss Harris. Ed, Jeff, I wonder what the deep state pushed for the debate because they knew people would turn against Biden and he would step aside so they basically screwed him, but he got them by throwing his support by Kamala Harris, just the thought, I don't necessarily disagree with that. I mean, look, it's telling us that that didn't happen, but in the last, like, how many years of, or how many different presidential cycles had there ever been a debate that early? I mean, what if Trump says, no, what if Trump says, no, I will do it in September. I'll even do it in August, the week after your convention Democrats. But I don't want to debate somebody who's not officially the nominee yet. Does this will never happen again? We know you have a weak candidate. They will never, you will never have either side agree to a June debate again. The lesson learned here because they could just change who the nominee is. The primaries clearly don't matter, as we have learned, they just don't. It's all a formality, at least as far as Democrats go, I guess, as far as Republicans that they had their way in 2016, I don't think they would have had Ted Cruz, but that's who seemed to be the last man standing, certainly would have had John Kasich. The establishment wanted a Scott Walker or a Jeb Bush or something along those lines as the party standard bearer in 2016. The Republicans still do that, Democrats are shown a willingness and they got the entire party to go along with it, knowing it was the most remarkable thing about all this. Well, it's the most surprising thing to me about going from Biden to Harris. Is it nobody in the Democratic party objected to that? And I say, yeah, maybe they thought Biden should go, but they did not object to Kamala Harris being the nominee. No one said, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, don't we get to vote on this? Should we talk about this? Okay, well, why whatever you say, Nancy Pelosi, whatever you say, yeah, yeah, sure. We'll do the vice president, whatever. You guys are smart. You guys just go ahead and you guys can pick our nominee for us. You like that? Yeah, I like the mapples. All right, right on, right on, right on. So, so, I'm, no, there was no pushback, nothing. Two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six, but you would have thought at least they would have said, well, you know, well, what don't we talk about this? Or, you know, we've been screeching democracy for five years now and just by, by the, by proclamation, the vice president is now the nominee. And who am I to tell Democrats what to do? But I'm somewhat surprised that there was no internal squabbling, no protest, no pushback. No, nobody said, hey, I would like a shot at the nomination. They're just like, all right, Harris seems good enough to us. I don't know the deep state push read the main ad, but it is, I mean, it's a red flag. Um, Tim, if you think back to 2020, Joe Biden was not the front runner in between the debate. The next thing you know, he is the Democrat nominee. So I guess they pulled him out just like they put him in. What does that say about our election process? Hashtag Venezuela. I think at least on the Democrat side are so true to that. Joe Biden finished fourth in Iowa, fifth in New Hampshire. And it somehow went South Carolina is the nominee. And no one, no one fought it. Do all of these people who run for the Democrat nomination, do they just want to book deal or media tour or some kind of say in the platform or some kind of deal made on a policy basis? Is that what's, I mean, we haven't had a serious discussion about the internal Democratic party politics and how they pick their leadership. It is very, very top down, uh, Tim, uh, we did Tim, uh, and they texture. What would have been said if it was Biden was granted immunity? He was granted immunity. Look, they might just say, Hey, the, the president of the United States should go out and rob a bank and then the authorities can't charge them because you're stupid if you believe that are you're, you're willingly stupid, probably, but you're stupid. Nonetheless, what you're saying is say, for example, Obama orders a drone strike, hits his target and kills it. Let's say there was an innocent bystander and then the department of justice after Obama's out of office decides to charge Obama with murder. Well, that's not constitutional according to the Supreme Court. You can't execute. I mean, you can't go back and look back into rearview mirror and in hindsight, say, well, this is a potential crime. This is a potential crime. This is a potential crime and we're going to charge you for them and that's what you're trying to do to try to criminalize policy because at that level, it's, you know, sometimes things happen. So that's what I would have said. I was like, you with Biden and if he could make a compelling case that maybe taking money from the Chinese or working some kind of deal with the Chinese was part of his Chinese policy. Well, I mean, like, it's going to be very hard for prosecutors to go after him. And here's what the bottom line is with this presidential immunity, immunity deal, guys. Just like everything, elections have consequences. If you think somebody is going to abuse the trust granted to them by our Constitution, don't vote for them for president, okay? I said this all along. This is true about Biden, Obama, Trump, Bush, Carter, I guess. That's it. The Clinton, but like you can't just go start prosecuting former presidents. Then you are no better than this banana republic stuff going on in Venezuela. This is what has to happen. You got to respect the legacy of the office to office. You can't go around charging your families. That's what they do in Brazil. That's what they do in these developing nations. The reason the United States is prosperous economically is because we are a safe haven. We don't run these kind of shenanigans at a law fair, at least we have it up until Donald Trump and people said, well, that's a safe place to put my money. It's a safe place where my property is protected. I'm going to invest in America, the economy works, and if you start going down this path, it's going to erode that trust will no longer be the reserve currency. People don't look at the U.S. as a safe haven. They will put their money elsewhere and you will feel the consequences economically because of that. That's why we don't do it that way, although Democrats seem to be willing to do it that way to achieve power. The bottom line is, if you're worried about the president of the United States committing a crime and not being charged with it while he's president, well, then maybe that's not the guy you need to be president, vote for somebody else. If your guy loses, well, that's the way the cookie crumbles. Jeff, I'm 58 years old and I have voted every two to four years since I was 18. I've never been polled. Who are these people that get polled? I've been polled before. It might be like, do you have a landline or do you cell phone? Polling is scientific. They really do try an honest effort to at least get an assessment. Now, there's two kinds of polling. The media polling is, I don't think it's reliable because they try to social engineer all the cross tabs and say, well, we think this many African Americans are going to vote and it's way, always way higher than the reality. What you got to look at is internal polling of these campaigns because they want an accurate assessment. They want to know where they stand as they head into the battle. Anyway, we can talk more about that on the other side. This is a Jeff Moore show and I could talk 106.5. ♪ I'm in one day a wealthy customer, both the Indian Lake ♪ ♪ Eat the girl so far away ♪ ♪ Then it crashes south of Nashville and it turned that car around ♪ He said, this is where you get off, boy, because I'm going back to Alabama. As I stepped out of that Cadillac, I said, "Mr. Minifang's," he said, "You don't have to call me, Mr. Mr. The whole world called me high." He said, "Look back to the Jeff Moore show, up at the talk, 106.5, they're just sticking around on this Tuesday morning. We'll get through some of these texts real quick before we get to our next guest, Scott and Austin here in a few minutes, so just had an addition to the guest roster first here. On tomorrow's show, we'll have U.S. Senator Rick Scott from over in Florida. He's running for re-election, trying to get us some media, and since we do have a few listeners in Florida, he's going to make time for us on tomorrow's program. So, we'll get another United States Senator here on the show. Derek Digger, Joe smarter than Menendez, have kickbacks, give it to the family. They can give them to Joe, but he is helping Ukraine. They got plenty of dirt on the vibes. I just don't think the Ukraine angle works with the dirt. I mean, they may have all the dirt in the world. The problem with explaining that, Derek Digger, is there's enough people who are flying that Ukrainian flag out in their yard in this country. There's enough people who bought into the Ukraine idea. It's just like a Ukraine ideal, I mean, like, what is it that, and it's like how susceptible we are to propaganda, I suppose, but to buy into Ukraine, like I'm not necessarily against Ukraine. I mean, I mean, obviously they should not have been evaded by Vladimir Putin and Russia, but I don't even blame the U.S. like some of my buddy Tucker Carlson or anybody else. Well, we shouldn't have threatened with NATO and move, no, like, it's a sovereign boundary. He should not have crossed it, okay? A deal is a deal. These are the boundaries. He shouldn't have gone to Crimea, however, what I understand is why is it our job to enforce these international boundaries? As Americans, well, everybody should pitch it, but everybody doesn't pitch it. It's just us. It's not the Germans, the French, I mean, they give lip service to it. Europe thinks, Western Europe thinks that Ukraine is to heal the diode, they go to war, but leave us out of it. Now maybe there's an economic explanation there, but I don't know, I need a better justification that we're fighting for Ukrainians' freedom because we're not fighting an ideology anymore. We're not fighting the Soviet Union to spread a communist. We're just fighting something that's existed in this world for thousands of years, just power-hungry dictators, doing dictator, third world, second world things. How do you vote by mail? I've never done that. It's a good idea to shoot. When you can't vote for it by mail in Alabama, Sydney, there's only some states that do it, and they tend to be the liberal states anyway, but if Democrats had their way, we would have universal vote by mail. It's just too easy to manipulate, or whether if somebody doesn't live in a house and you can send it to other people's ballots, it's hard to keep a check on. What people want is you to show your ID at a polling place and show that you are who you say you are, and then you get a ballot and you vote and you put it in a machine and it gets counted where there's no chain of custody, where there's no any sort of verification process is when people get very apprehensive about what's going on. I am for it. Replace Trump with the said to said ship has sailed a name texture. Matthew, I got pulled last night. That's sure to call the wrong number by accident, but they were pulling for the North Dakota and large congressional district. Not sure how I got that call. Tim, I get at least one poll a month. Sometimes too sick of it to respond. I always respond just to see what it is. All right, we have a bunch of more texts to get to. You're sorry, James. I'm just going to make them a way up the list, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. Keep them coming. This is a Jeff Porte show at the clock, one of those six, five. Eight, six, five. They should stay with us on this Tuesday morning. Science still wide open, two, five, one, three, four, three, zero, one, zero, six. That's how you get touched with the program if you so choose text is preferred. Still waiting. James, the unofficial troll of the Jeff Porte show, we will get to you in the next segment or perhaps beyond joining us now from the Scott Dawson Evangelistic Association. You may remember him from 2018, ran for Governor Scott Dawson on the line with us. Scott, good morning. How are you? Good morning, Jeff. It's good to be back with you. I'm doing well. I hope you are. Doing well, doing well. Thanks for making time for us. We do appreciate it coming on this program. Like I said, it's been a while, and we're talking a little offline, but what have you been up to since, I guess, wow, you believe how long it's been over the six years, right? It seems like a lifetime ago, but made some great relationships and I still believe in the calls in which we ran, but then our Evangelistic Association is still booming. Our student conferences average about 16,000, so I'm passing with the time to the next generation. Just finished up in Knoxville, hard for an Alabama fan to be up in Tennessee, but man, I tell everyone, we interviewed Rick Barnes, the head basketball coach, solid follower of Christ, Drew McCoy, who calls the path that led to the field goal that beat Alabama a year and a half ago, and then Kirby, the pitcher for the National Championship, all of them are solid followers. It's hard for someone like me to pull against them, but being in true Alabama fashion, Jeff, I will find a way. There is, when there's a will, there's a way, we will still pull against them. Well, I will always cheer for the Tennessee Volunteers over Alabama, but that's the bitter little brother Auburn speaking in me right there. I understand. Just, I'm sorry, I'm a flawed human being. I will never be able to be in, I can do the roll-tide stuff, I can span. That's not the reason we're all still under construction, man, I'm still under construction. S.P.P. Sports will still control. I like going to Tuscaloosa, some of my best friends are Alabama fans, but I will never be able to, I just can't do it, so anyway, let's talk about a few things here, and the reason I asked you on, I heard you on J.T.'s radio show yesterday up in Birmingham, and I thought it's just really appropriate, give it what we saw Friday night, but Scott, how much, how many more times do we have to go through this like shock, value, sort of campaign against Christianity, we're trying to, everybody's trying to outdo each other, and it's always, it's always faith in like traditional sense, right, it's never, it's never another faith. Those Christians who seem to be targeted with this stuff, they've tried to explain it away today, but it's clear what was going on there, I mean, drag plus last supper, aha, we got you again, you silly Christians, I'm so tired of that narrative. Yeah, and unfortunately, you know, now they try to explain it like they're trying to be inclusive, and not safe, and if you're going to be inclusive, why didn't you mock the pilgrimage to Mecca of the Islam faith, I mean, you would never see, in fact, I think as a follower of Christ, I would be the first one to be outspoken about them doing something like that, because I'm calling on all world religions to denounce this, because it just seemed like they picked Christianity out of the bunch, because one, I mean, it is a religion, a way, you know, when you think about it like this, yeah, to me, everybody get mad and understand, I'm not, I'm not trying to douse those flames with water, it is upsetting to all of us, but as I fall through it, it kind of gave me a validity of my faith, because they intentionally mocked Jesus Christ, and so if you look at Jesus, if he says he's the Son of God and he's not, he's a liar, if he thought he was the Son of God, and he wasn't, he was crazy, but if he is the Son of God and he went to the cross and resurrected on the third day and sent it to the Father, one day he promised to come back, then he is Lord overall creation and scripture reveals in John chapter 3 that light came into this world and they chose to reject it, so what we're seeing live out before us as a follower of Jesus Christ is as relevant as the scriptures are on that page, that it is the, it is the, it's not a religion, it's that God wants a relationship with us, and we've tried to dumb God down into an idol and make him what we want him to be, and my statement is Jesus will never meet you in a conference room and negotiate with you, we come down under His terms, under His provisions, or we don't come at all, He is the Lord of Lords and the King of Kings, and so sorry I got on my soapbox, but understand the world brought this to our front door, I'm just opening it up going, God understands you can't be neutral with Jesus, you need to receive Him for who He is, or you're acting just like what we saw on Friday night and you reject Him. Well, here's what it looks like to be, this has been kind of my take on it for a while, I mean we hear separation of everything and religion, right, not just separation of church and state, but it's, it's, it's every, every asset, every facet of American culture, anybody like, no, no, no, you can't talk about this, but what I think the secular, maybe it's the left or maybe it's other elements politically, but then it doesn't really matter who they are, where they are politically, it's like we want the separation of everything in morality and Christianity to them represents some kind of morality or some kind of moral code that is rejected, but I mean I could, that's where this like a lot of this behavior or a lot of this sort of anti-Christian attitude or sentiment is coming from to me. Yeah, well, and understand Jeff, as a follower of Christ, I do understand there are some thou shalt not in scripture, but I think for the Christian faith, we should be on the offense right now of going, look, we're, you don't really have a problem with us, you got a problem with Jesus and you got to force people to either receive or reject Jesus, not the political Jesus, not the social Jesus, not the environmental Jesus, but the redeemer, Jesus, the one who went to the cross because scripture says God made him who knew no sin to be sin for us that we might be made to righteousness of God through Jesus Christ, that he paid a debt that I owe, we have bad news in this world. The bad news is we're sinners, the worst news is there's nothing we can do about it, but the good news is Jesus paid that debt for you can change your life and so as the church, I tell everyone right now, let's just take a breath, let's get our feet back under us, let's start now by making sure our family knows the real Jesus, our neighbors know the real Jesus, our friends know the real Jesus and as the world begins to see that Christians should not be known for what we stand against, Christians should be known for who we stand for and that's Jesus Christ because Jesus is the one that changes your life, the Holy Spirit is the one that reveals to us what is sin and what is not sin and as he leads us, I just believe we've almost made a mistake here of building Christianity around a set of morals which we understand there are guidelines for a follower of Christ, but Jeff lost people act like lost people, but you saw Friday night where lost people acting like lost people. Well, I'll tell you one thing that is at least a little of the silver lining here is that watching that there are people that just shrugged us off, they were bothered by what happened on Friday night and I know that's kind of, but sometimes it does feel like you're alone in this journey and there's not, I mean sure we have our church family and what not, but especially in my business where everything is so secular and they're trying to replace like your higher power from your faith and church to the government, but you know one of the things is just seeing people really upset by this at least tells me that hey at least I'm not alone here with this. Well think about this, how many more times do we have to see it? We've already seen the crucifixion depicted by under the guidelines of "art" being in urine, we've seen the movie several years ago depicting Jesus as a man of lust. We've seen so many mockries of this that we have to come back and understand in America for 240 plus years we've had really this freedom, but go to our brothers and sisters across this world and there's a lot of persecution, in fact all you have to do is read Hebrews chapter 11, it's the chapter of faith and you see the phrase and some were burned at the stake and some were with knives and some were hung. I mean we have to understand persecution of the church that's been around since the New Testament because I believe it is a matter of people choosing their their sin over... Do you think it's under threat here? What does that look like? What do you foresee or what are the possibilities of that maybe not being around much longer? Yeah well I tell everybody you know there's a reason the Andy Griffith Show was on six decades ago. I don't think it would make it today because society has changed so much and I guess because prior to my focus being on America I remember being in South Africa Jeff and a pastor looked at me before I went out and spoke and he said there's not a person in this audience that wants to go to Iran wants to go to Russia. He said there's not even but a few that want to go to London. Everybody wants to go to America because as America goes so goes the world and I started thinking about that as America goes so goes the world world. I was in Egypt during the Muslim Brotherhood uprising and I met with pastors and they gave me they gave me a word they said don't pray that the persecution stops. Pray that our boldness increases because as you study church history you find the church flourishes during persecution so we all pray for revival. You go to any church in you know in the South especially we're all praying for revival but there was a church figure named Vance Habner that had a quote he said if Christians knew what revival cost they'd probably stop praying for it because we want to see only the good thing that no one's going to hurt you know I'm not going to lose my job I'm not going to lose income I'm not going to lose status in the community but I remind you to read the New Testament I think in 2025 and beyond the church in America may look more like Acts chapter two that it does look like the church of 1980 we're going to find that it is going to cost you to say it may not cost your life but it will cost you maybe some friendships or even some reputations again I go back and reiterate you'll never die for your preferences but if it's a conviction you'll stand for it whatever it costs. Joy by Scott Dawson of the Scott Dawson Evangelistic Association here on the program uh let's let's talk about uh this uh sort of this election cycle Scott we haven't you know even even when Obama was at the top of the ticket running against McCain I mean we talked about these these sort of faith issues and and and I don't know what we thought of um uh old Rick Warren and Saddleback but but at least it was it was into it was in the like uh real house we were talking about these things I think this like election cycle and like you know a lot of these people especially about some of my listeners there line up on the left so well Donald Trump's the boy scout he's he's a center too but later you look at this and we're not really even this isn't even being brought up in our discussions about public policy and what role faith plays at all anymore it's so out of the mainstream to them that especially the news media they just outright reject it I mean that that seems like that that seems to be a major problem here absolutely um and to me I go think about all the advantages everybody wants to think about all the problems associated with religion and I you can't you can't ignore those but I do go if you're gonna if you're gonna talk about the the problems of religion and society you better talk about the advantages about having religion in your society that too developed their schools that's you develop their hospitals um you go back to the origins and it was the church being the church going we've got to reach our fellow man there's two hands there's good words on one hand and there's good deeds on the other hand and if you remove if you don't want to have anyone preaching and no one talking about uh you know the safeguards of morality and civility then you're also losing the good deeds of love your neighbor as yourself uh I'll tell everyone without Jesus being in my life you don't expect me to love my enemies because I can't even love my brother and what what you're seeing in society uh play out is when you remove the guardrails of absolute truth then all of a sudden you're you're on a windy road it's raining uh and you're just moments from going off the cliff and think about it what was wrong is now right what was right is now wrong uh I just asked anyone listening to you if you think America's on the right track uh you got to explain yourself I'm tired of trying to explain why we're not on the right track I want someone out there going oh America's on the right track how our families are disintegrating we've never said this surgeon general had to declare an epidemic of loneliness uh right now you see all the failures of education of government of medicine even religion has has fit where is America on the right track you got to convince me of that I'm tired of trying to convince America you're not on the right track I want somebody to explain to me how do you honestly believe we're on the right track Scott we're out of time we got to leave it there but uh folks want to find out more about your organization more about your mission uh where can they do so sure man and thanks for having me it's good to talk to you and catch up um I really enjoy getting a friendship with you during that run they can just reach out to scottnalston.org that's so s-e-o-t-t-c-h-w-s-o-w-n.org love to get with us Scott we appreciate your time we'll talk to you soon thanks Jeff all right guys we got to get a break here be right back this is F.F. talk 1 0 6 5 I can't get to sleep at night barking a lot so loud and bright D.A.C. hasn't worked in 20 years probably never made a single person cold but I can't say the same for me I've done it many times we'll go back to the jump port showed F.F. talk 1 0 6 5 nature staying with us on this on this Tuesday morning 2 5 1 3 4 3 0 1 0 6 the next hour john wall of the album uh republican party will join us so stay right where you are uh fire dogs used to be on raspuses list way back in the 1990s that was pulled for a few elections once I moved I ditched the landline in 2000 and everyone's called again then he adds you can make fun of christians because we won't riot suicide bombership a newspaper like charlie hepto and and I don't I just this hostility toward religion and I know any second now if I haven't already gotten the text about the trump bible or something like that but it is it's not it's not just like a coincidence that this this weird display in france on friday night was mocking the last supper I mean it didn't just say hey you know we should mock something what should we mock should we mock the 1970s classic dukes of hazard or or should we mock uh should should should we mock modern Japanese culture or how about we uh we we mock something down under australia no no we we they picked the last supper for a reason they picked something that's sacred and then I you say whatever you want to about it the the intentions it was the intention of this now maybe they I mean there was a lot of things going on and whatever the hell that was friday night but this was supposed to showcase french culture and what I think it is it's just it did I mean like right now in france they're very hostile to organize religion it's it's a secular society and uh they would go after islam they've done gone after juneism but they figured the participants will christianity just seemed like the best way to go mock christianity two five one three four three zero one zero six is the text of it that's that's what they were doing they go backlash very back this is effing talk one oh six five three and queen from bucks pocket to the shores of orange beach at all points in between an insider's perspective on alabama politics it's the jeff pore show i don't think hang down in this way look back to the jeff pore show that for talk one oh six five hour number three now underway you do appreciate your listing text line and you need to get in two five one three four three zero one zero six that's how we do it here uh text are appreciated still to come on a program from the alvembert public and party john wall so stay right where you are this hearing up on uh capital hill and set aside still underway here um we've seen Ted cruisersrick scott ramp all josh holly right now going um questioning the acting secret service director that's underway um i don't think we're getting very many headlines out of this maybe a soundbiter too that's my prediction um let's see here in the news what else we've been talking about presidential campaign the silly and it's nothing but silly joe bine yesterday with his supreme court reform idea um it's going nowhere and he knows it because it's something like that that's significant you need buy-in for both sides of the aisle and he doesn't have it um to change the way we do this supreme court 18 year terms um it just it's just not gonna happen but it doesn't hurt i guess to push it out there what what's a joke what's silly about it is that uh joe bides been how many decades in public service five six and with what four months five months remaining now you're going to try to overhaul the third branch whether the branch one of the three branches of government you think you can do that or is this is this just messaging again it's just what it is it's just a messaging effort by joe bine and kamala harris two five one three four three zero one zero six so i laugh at that and uh we can move proceed with some of these texts james the official troll of the jeff pore show we should just as we should temper our help to israel that war has been biblical consequences to believers the war will never end what i think about israel though and i agree the biblical consequences are important and that's one reason why americans evangelical christians are very loyal to the israel cause but it's not like we're sitting united states true i mean there's never there's never this idea now maybe maybe it does end up being that but at least with the israelis they could kind of hold their own what what i what i think is the difference between israel and ukraine is a pertaining to the united states i think people policymakers democrat politicians in this country are actively working against israel now they want to say that the right in america is is doing the bidding of puta or whatever but that's not true i think there are elements politically political elements in america who would give money to homa money and and our and our you know weapons to homas and has below uh did they they think u.s support is appropriate i don't think anybody america thinks giving us aid to russia is the appropriate thing to do i think there are democrat politicians who are on on the side of homas i mean literally i mean at best in i think with ukraine and russia i think there are people who are sympathetic to the to russia with still a little odd but not not totally unfounded to say hey we're going to put nato troops in ukraine and then russia reacts accordingly like although you know you're not i mean that's that would be the same as if some rogue adversary superpower so we're going to put we're going to put our troops in canada or mexico when we invade mexico or canada i don't think so we'll have a hostile relationship with those two countries we'll say we did this is a cuba even we did put a blockade so i i did this at an apples and oranges comparison when he say the israeli situation versus the ukraine situation like i said in this country there are people who are actively opposed to israel's existence no one is actively opposed to ukraine's existence in america no one is saying that should be a part of russia the ukraine shouldn't exist but there are people who say that israel shouldn't exist but i i guess that i am uh i think we have a much more of a strategic partnership i think it's the united states better interest better interest to be aligned with israel and it is with ukraine there's more commonality there there's more of a mutual beneficial relationship there than there is with the us and ukraine uh damianky holy holy oysters uh holly oysters actually mr pore i've been saying that for years why do we care what the lines are in eastern europe well there was a uh whole paris peace treaty back in 1947 we need to let that go well this is the thing about damianky lake before world war two i mean europe just stayed in a constant state of war didn't it going back to the the fall of the roman empire the nations in europe were always at war with one another in some capacity you know one way or another now they sort of coexist but in this maybe maybe we're going on a hundred years now of peace i mean there's been the the balkins and the soviet union kind of marching on places it hasn't been but hasn't been the just knock out drag out the multi-year wars that europe had been accustomed to prior to world war two does that go on forever maybe it does a deep texture these are your best shows jeff i agree with what he said it's time for us to be more aggressive with our believers in christ separation of church and state dollar applies in my book an even separation of church and state has been bastardized i i think separate separation of religion and state is probably more of the appropriate terminology that we don't need a state-sanctioned state-sponsored religion that's what that means but it's become this well because christians are i guess homosexuality because they're against gambling because they see see those as or you know whatever it may be uh abortion then because of the doctrine of this made-up doctrine of separation of church and state we must be for these things we must be for homosexuality we must be for gambling we must be for abortion we must reject the moral code of christianity because of separation of church and state it's a separation it's not a antithesis it's not a a hostility the separation of church and state doesn't mean you had to be against everything the christian church stands for this helps some people interpret it and it's creeped its way into the modern left modern democratic party does that kind of cut your little event jean at the message of the real jesus is loved and why i hate sinners they lose the moral i grow who says they hate that's your interpretation jean you hate to sin they don't hate sinners susan why is it that they had to take their sexuality equated to religion or other things that aren't sexuality that's so disturbing just if you whether or not you believe it or not or not why do you have to equate sexuality push it out there for everybody when i don't others don't do that i mean i guess the lgbt lifestyle is supposed to be held sacred as as we would our religion is what you're saying susan i i i if i interpret that correctly i don't know i guess like people see like people of faith and they see what they have and hey i want something that i can hold sacred that uh it shall not be intruded upon i want something that means a lot to me just like what these Christians have and they choose their sexuality which i don't think that's how this works unnamed texter it was not as a desecration as they have done as they always do when they're trying to hide or pass something like the bill binder's trying to get passed on term limits i go i i how they text i don't think the bide administration or bide and carers campaign or hares bide campaign or whatever the hell it is was conspiring with the international epic community committee unnamed texter why don't we super pose drag queens on classic paintings of people in hell dirt digger if france thinks it's hot but i will pray for them because they don't believe in jesus they have not a seen heat yet i hope all people find their way to jesus christ because the heat is on unnamed texter no one has been able to explain to me why the iranian hamos the iranian hamos connection hamos is israel bruv hamos is muslim brotherhood and soonie iran is shehide and why is it no one ever discusses turkeys role in all of this turkish government of arawad is bosom brotherhood and allied with hamos herald was in the news over the weekend talking about bringing the hamos leader to turkey why does no one except the international media i did see where air-to-one had threatened to invade israel but i mean airwants is a lot of kind of crazy things and we have to get a our buddy france a smart tell who's been talking about this a little bit but back to uh the the iranian hamos connection is is i mean just the enemy of my enemy is my friend and iran they they they're i mean that is like one of their coordinates of their domestic politics is to villainize the israeli jiu to to to rally support around the regime i mean it's it's taking their faith and using it to bolster their domestic politics i mean there's that that's why like when they say death to the great state and the death to america that typically our our democrat politicians some of the republicans are just very dismissive of it because well it's just the way things are done in iran and it's no big deal let's try to negotiate a peace deal with them maybe they're some truth to that but i don't think they're rational actors at all james with a bevy of text it seems uh coming up here in the next segment we'll be right back to sis the jep or show what if i talk about oh six five good to see you it's pretty dog on cool listen wednesday seven p.m. with replace saturday two p.m. and sunday seven p.m. or find us online at what's working cam dot com fly fly is high above it all hopping in the wind like an angel can now under history the cold and still but they still smell the power to burn and they probably always will look back to the jet pore showed up and talk all those six five days you're staying with us on this tuesday morning two five one three four three zero one zero six time permitting we will work in some of your text messages still to come on the program this morning john wall of the alabama republican party that's in the next segment so stay tuned for that uh programming note coming up tomorrow show uh you a senator rick scott from florida is going to be with us as well as joey clark from newstalk 93 one in montgomery and a guest to be uh determined to be named later uh always twitter.com max slash jeff underscore poor if you're wondering who is coming up on any given program sometime at eight o'clock hour before we kick off at nine if you uh go and check that out all right uh james the unofficial or the official troll i keep saying that official i don't know why uh james the official troll the jet pore show so do you think we need term limits for all government i mean we put presidents but we're looking at career politicians who come in uh and broke uh but leave really millionaires well christians have a problem they shoot their cells of the foot by hypocrisy the worst stars were called out on it they cower well back to you i don't all of a sudden we're talking term limits because your guys aren't on the bench okay let's just be honest for 50 years you had rovey wade you had a liberal court in these last few presidential elections you you've lost control of the court and now you want to change it it's number one uh i don't i mean our system is what it is sure if you want to change it but do it constitutionally do it i mean i don't think you can do it i just i don't know i i mean i haven't given that much thought what i think how i think the court should be construed but it seems like it's worked okay with lifetime appointments for judges and justices had to go through the vetting of the united states senate if you don't like who your senator voted for to confirm then vote them out uh but we can we out there's a process for that if you don't like who your justices are uh to the hypocrisy why why is the only like thing about christianity that any i mean it will do hypocrites it's hypocrisy i mean like the hypocrisy argument only takes you so far guys i mean christians are there in the world and have me ever hypocrites i mean we're all hypocrites but i don't think that's a winning argument since the um moral equivalence argument it's the well we get you're wrong about this so we can be wrong about this and that makes it right what the problem is james let me go let your free flag fly do whatever you want to do but we don't need like institutions being hostile toward christianity just for the hell of it that's what it appears it's like hey let's pick all the christians what should we do that how about the olympic ceremony when the world's watching when you have mcdonalds pepsi coca-cola ibm whatever footing the bill for this nonsense we'll show them hee hee hee hee hee hee we'll show them just how great drag is i even though they object to it what is it is that really like a fundamental part of french culture you think of everything france has contributed to the culture of human civilization which is significant and they go with the drag queens that's what they go with i mean all the literature Voltaire and victor hugo or i don't know whatever the french consider to own as contributions to the Eiffel tower and statue of liberty whatever and they go with the drag queens and the drag queens running on put down across the bridge dancing around in their little fongs with their stuff hanging out that that is like part of the crown jewel one of the jewels of the crown of french culture is that seriously okay boy oh i i know two five one three four three zero one zero six is a set type remaining we'll try to get to these few remaining texts this is the jeff pore show all up with dog one zero six five we'll go back to the jeff pore show it up and talk one zero six five thanks for staying with us on what's left of this tuesday morning we do appreciate it joining us now we do this about this time every tuesday uh the chairman of the album republican party john wall joins us chairman good morning are you i am doing well it could be on the show thank you for making time for us we always appreciate it so um every time we talk just through sort of a new turn or a new uh wrinkle to the presidential election but uh we we really haven't seen much change uh uh in the last week and two days since my drop down other than i now the democrats are starting to get organized that they're they're they're little they're executing it really really well but almost like too good it looks very astroturfish to me um i i don't think they can maintain this sort of level of intensity for the next 98 days to be honest no i mean i mean look look we all know if you go back and look at it um the pressure biting dot the the bait performance the media show afterwards the difficult party is very top heavy they rule with an iris they are going to do what's best for them for that ruling class and i think it's pretty clear that a lot of this like you said it's almost scripted like this is this is their story Jo Biden pushed out they have Kamala Harris great new candidate all the excitement is supposedly there i just don't feel it on the ground um they're they're trying to they're trying to create a narrative that she's different than joe biden she has different policies in joe biden before excited about her i'm just not sure that the american people actually believe that and uh only has not reflected that before yeah she's doing a little bit better than joe biden was but mickey mouse probably could have done a little bit better than joe biden so i i think yeah the fundamentals are still there the fundamental problems with the democrats policies are still there yeah i i mean this i mean that is sort of indicative of the policy it the policies are so good does it matter who's at the top of the ticket but but then i get it you know personality and character and uh capability matters and and part of that's the case here but like you said she's not performing a lot better at all the way they're acting i mean she should be up five to ten points that's not good to get there right but i they're almost treating her like this superstar who's going to solve all the demeria problems and when you're supposed to superstar who's going to solve all your problems it's only pulling two percent better there's kind of a problem um did it the actual numbers do not deserve the reaction of preface is getting hurt whether they're ever credit establishment or getting hurt and and i think it's like i said it's because they're trying to create a narrative that she's successful and it's just not there yeah and i i guess so how long until you know she's i think they've built this is this is where they've messed up chairman and i can't see what you think about this i think right now they are setting the bar so high for Kamala Harris it it it it and the expectations are going to be through the charts and based on what we've seen in the past i mean unless she get just just Barack Obama reincarnated or something i mean there's no way she's going to be able to achieve that she there is a and this is i think they're setting her up for a let down potentially that they need to temper some of their expectations or they're going to be in trouble i would agree with that and look she's in the funny moon phase right now um this is where she should be approaching very soon for a high watermark um freshly announced getting a lot of good press everybody on board you know they're going to come up go through the democrat convention you know let's have a little bump there another little boost when these after the democrat convention watch it'll take about two weeks after the democrat two weeks later the numbers are going to stabilize and that's where you want to start looking at point what happened i think the potential and the likelihood is she actually trended down after this bump so i yeah i'm with you i think i think they are creating a scenario where people feel actually overconfident the democrats feel overconfident they feel like they do is just biden was dragging him down and the truth was it was not joe biden dragging him down it was not today he was not his debate performance he was the policies that are destroying america our dragging down the democrat party well i think they if they want to have a chance they have to wake up to that um although selfishly i hope they don't the other thing about it and i i had and your surreal and we talked about this i i i've come to this conclusion democrats are making a tremendous all-in-bet right now um with with with the way not not just Kamala Harris herself but the way that they have handled this so they look at the last five years i mean just giving the nomination to bind and there's no way biden could have won it without some kind of intervention from behind the scenes because you don't finish fourth in iowa fifth in new hampshire and then go on to be the nominee and that just is not the way things have been done traditionally that there was there was some deal making and there were some people who stepped aside based on those deals i am convinced of that i would agree they didn't end up classic from the democrat party that the party who claims to believe in democracy they've been actually fulfilled a democratic process to letting their voters actually decide but but democrats what along with it and now here you are the formality of the democratic primary turned out to be not nothing but a formality and they're telling their rank and file their base that look clearly trust we we we can't have him we're going to do it this way and what you know like what's a little surprise to be about how that all unfolded is no one in the democratic party no national figure no you know no one's wait wait wait let's let's have a town hall meeting or something to talk about this who should be our nominee then well you know no we're we're we're okay we're we're putting blind trust in the elders of the democratic party to to uh... bequeat us kemala harris has the presumptive democratic presidential nominee no fight no vote nothing here it is uh uh no democratic process here it is and they seem to have gone along with that if they lose chairman if they lose i mean this is a big bet this is their moment when they realize we cannot go john mccain mit romney bob dol any more we got to do something different a republican party which came for us in 2016 i think that they got that if they lose here to donald trumpett and they're very well made this is going to shake up the democratic party this is their held mary pass this is their water lu i i i i you agree but i think we also need to remember because i would make the argument that this is not the first time this is the third time at least um all three of the last president just like look bernie sanders should have been the nominee in 2016 if you had a killer quick um and hillary quit the law that election for them um four years ago they once again bernie sanders should have been their nominee but they were scared of bernie sanders so they made sure Biden got it um this time it's Biden out all here it's in what we have is a democrat democrat organization that's honestly believe that and i have to give them respect and what time i did not understand it so i give them respect to the fact that they are true believers in that the elites know how to run america and know how to live lives for americans better than the people themselves they genuinely believe this and that's why you see this it's almost the same like who cares about the primary process we're just going to put whoever we want it um but it goes far past that it's not just the electorate it's in their policies who cares who wants the vaccine if you doesn't we're going to just make everybody get it actually um you know who cares about border policy that the american people actually want a closed border we're just going to nature that border state open to make sure we think control and can make sure people actually have good leadership that's going to rule over them um they genuinely see themselves as the gatekeepers to good society and they want to run our life towards and they want to run the primary system so it's actually it's actually consistent with their overall worldview these are control breaks to honestly think government knows how to live our lives better than we do and will do anything that they empower to make sure that happens i just think that there's going to be a big backlash here that that they have because they have done it this way and and like look they have some kooky people some very activist loud voices that they they somehow manage to throw a let blake it on and keep them for being totally upset about all this and they're just going along with it i mean i how how how much longer can i keep that lid on this powder keg yeah i mean that that's the big question i'm surprised it's lasted as long as it has but remember democrats have democrats run a far tighter shift than the republicans do and in a way i'm proud of that you know republicans have a big tent you have the the infighting you have the joc infra position we're on the democrat side it's much more top heavy where the leaders decide and everybody falls in line um but i believe that debate is a good thing i believe that society is stronger when you actually talk about the issues within a party or between the parties and i think that's what you're watching the democrat party is losing that debate they're they're becoming one you're becoming leadership driven and at some point those fractures are talking about creep in people start feeling disenfranchised voters are feeling like well this might voting in matter within the democrat party um are these policies that they're pushing that are out of touch with the american people eventually that trickled down in american people for asking the question wait why am i voting for a party who believes in the opposite things that i did why do i why am i voting for party that wants open borders why am i voting for party who wants to indoctrinate my children with socialism and and sexy explicit material you know why do i want to support a party in scaling on the form of the national policy level why do i want to support a a party who literally their idea is to solve economic problems um in inflation by bringing more money in injecting into the monetarization that actually creates even greater inflation so i i think you're right i think i think if the democrats don't wake up and i'm suspicious they won't because people who love power and that you know who want to control things very rarely realized how bad their policies are i'm not sure they're going to wake up but i think if they don't you're right this is going to fall apart for the democrat party the policies are bad and i i agree with that but but sometimes i think the policies are just a means to the ends it's it's all like dancy polosi may talk a good game about um liberalism progressivism or whatever but she's motivated by power Schumer the deep state and these people maybe ideologically they do align with the left and all of that but but what's way more important to them than any of that it's just maintaining this hold on power and and and to me like they will try to say whatever they need to say to maintain this hold on power i i look i i think you're right the policy may be what what what what gets them in the end but i don't know that they necessarily believe all this stuff either i i mean you're probably right the actual elected officials but this is where you know conservatives talk about and i think it's important to remember this whenever you want to call it the deep state um if you're a karate dcs wonk um i don't care whatever name you want to put on it there there there are true believers behind the seats here who really believe that our country yet that our world is in danger of climate change i like they they will do anything to save the world for future generations to the point of feeling those who are alive today um and there are some true believers deep involved here do i think do have a investment in this system and our true believers in these policies are at least in the control that comes with these policies and they will do anything to um to keep their up its in power because a lot of these guys were talking about Nancy Pelosi touch humor these are not the the real brain behind the democrat operation um it feels far deeper than that and i think that's when we talk about you know this this democrat establishment we're talking about these other people and are they true believers or do they just want power i i i don't know if they're good question but i i think their policies show they're they're almost almost like they want to destroy america it's a combo of all their policy it's a combo of both chairman and here's the thing like you don't go me some people do but more the the rule is and you go to work in government you become part of the bureaucracy there's not many like ron paul libertarian uh smaller government types working at like uh the the department of treasury you know they they just you have an inherent belief in the power of government to make people's lives better that's just it and i think that's true for the democratic party um they they believe this stuff uh maybe they don't believe the aocs and they're not quite all full-fledged communists but they do think that instead of praying to jesus you need to be praying to uh your president united states or whatever maybe they do let the public in and office unless it's republican office and let's make sure we know that yeah well then it's just it's the four horse with an apocalypse or something uh that that happened just to descend upon 1600 Pennsylvania avenue if a republican is an office but but traditionally they think if used right government is a force for good and it's better than anything the traditional conservative way can show you that you can't pull yourself up by your own bootstraps there's just you need you need the power of government in your corner and what that comes the power that they're able to they're they're able to do these things and i i just think that this they they realize look we're going to lose our power and people maybe aren't necessarily buying this so this is how the whole trump phenomenon came to be right that people right on the republican side we have this this populist movement they grew out of we want people to be back in charge like our founding fathers envisioned it yeah but they the problem the the real i think the the big flaw with the modern democratic party is rather than like sit down and say hey well what how does a guy like that a billion air from queens become the leader of a like a populist movement in america instead it's like we're not going to worry about that we're not even going to talk about that here's what's going here they're racist it's Vladimir Putin it's a hundred different other things rather than looking at like the core problem like what what leads to a country voting for somebody like this and that's where they fail and i have a great question right like yes in 2016 that should have been a wake-up call to the democrats in that the people of america were looking for something different they were looking for someone who's politically incorrect and look at this was a lesson for the republican party too but like you said we we have seen a shift in the last eight years within the republican party um you know mccain and ronnie versus donald trump and ronnie is our standard bearers and i think that's an incredibly good change for the party it's we're going away from this establishment top-down model that the democrats are currently second and we're going much more to a a standing up for the people talking about their right and freedom putting the people back in charge um actually believing in the american dream and this the responsibility and actually listening to the grassroots and i think that's why you see this movement you see a figure in donald trump who no one can understand from the normal political perspective because what he's doing transcends politics and it's about someone who actually is going to put america first and unfortunately that's been a real thing in american politics chair we're going to leave it there folks will get more involved with the alabama republican party find out what you guys are doing how can they do so well we always like to connect with folks um we're on all the social media at alabama republican party and then our website is algop.org if you sign up for newsletters or if you could volunteer they'll maybe help Donald trump or in our swing congressional district and we always like to interact with people as we fight to make america better john wall ladies and gentlemen chairman thanks again yep good to be on the show all right we'll be right back this is a jeff four 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some degree but we're not we're the united states is it like or we're not like um belgian's daddy is he can't buy russia oil and gas you know uh they have to make these decisions on their own and apparently they don't they they just they take the easy way out sometimes anyway enough of that coming up here shortly you get a shounsel of mid-day mobile what you got for buddy i guess i would just be googling belgian's daddy and see what comes up uh who knows i'll think you want to do that yeah probably probably don't out there uh yeah when we come back i've asked this question uh when did the left start having a problem with things being weird i analyze that out there and see uh weird is the new play where did that come from we'll look at that also uh mexican drug kingpins and scottas for 18 years that and a whole lot more on the way in our number one in mid-day mobile plus a primary focal in our number two these guys he just picks up and and they run with it oh i think it's interesting it came from uh minnesota's governor here we're gonna talk about that all right i gotta get out of here i'll try to do the better tomorrow sorry fellas forgot to say goodbye this has been the jeff or show on fm talk one oh six five