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Today's podcast is brought to you by Howie's Picks for the Massachusetts Republican State Committee. Vote Tuesday March 5th to keep the Mass GOP alive. To see Howie's Picks go to HowieCarShow.com and click on the banner. Better strap yourself in. It's time for the Howie Car Show. The High Court just said moments ago that Mr. Trump can stay on this year's presidential ballot in Colorado. It's a little dirty. It's still good. Unfortunately for America, the court isn't necessarily wrong. It's just a little slimy. It's still good. It's still good. So to think that the Congress is going to solve this, they barely can get a post office day in these days. It's just a little airborne. It's still good. It's so good. I know. Live from the Matthews Brothers Studios. My larger reaction is disappointment. Oh, the cheers of incredible sadness. Mmm yummy. President Biden, number one, stop weaponization. Fight your fight yourself. Don't use prosecutors and judges to go after your opponent to try and damage your opponent so you can win the election. Our country is much bigger than that. Rump swabs, hacks and moon bats beware. It's Howie Car. 844-542-42. I know this is crazy to be concerned about the state committee, but it's just a defensive struggle to prevent them from getting back in and wrecking. Finally, the final destruction of the Massachusetts Republican Party. I mean, it's basically a one party state now after four years of these knit wits, these knuckleheads. But, you know, if they get in, they'll finish it off once and for all. And someone says, "Well, I agree that they did nothing when they were in there. The Lions deal, Kool-Aid cult. But what about their argument that the Republicans didn't give them anything?" Well, the fact is they were spending the money on lawyers to hire private, to hire lawyers to sue other Republicans. They were spending money on private detectives to chase around other Republicans, sometimes out of state, going down to, if you cross the Kool-Aid cult, they would send someone, if you were divorced, they would send someone down to the probate court in your county to get the divorce record. This is what they were spending the money on. They weren't sending any money. And then they started, they started not even paying vendors, like for instance, yours truly. Again, I didn't get screwed over very much, but a lot of people got screwed over big time. And there's a dispute now, in litigation, DoorDash deal could very well end up owing a quarter of a million dollars for the most pathetic campaign for governor in the history of the Commonwealth. He barely campaigned. Someone says, "Who should we vote for in Wayland?" Same woman, Caroline Cunningham. There's not a guy who's saying running out there, but vote for Caroline Cunningham. And Wintrenden, somebody wants to know. No one good Wintrenden. Sorry about that. Again, it's hard to get people to go up against skunks. That's the recruiting problem here. 844-500-4242-8617 car, please remind people how horrible the dog walker of Milton is is a committee man. That would be Frisetti, Steve Frisetti. He was asked to resign from the Milton Republican town committee last year, and he was thrown off or forced to resign from the cemetery commission in the town because he politicized a memorial day ceremony. He's a dog walker. I think Frisetti's going to have a rough day tomorrow. He's running in Sean Powers. I hope to hear from Sean early later on tonight. Sean's a good guy. I know him. 844-500-42-42. All right, time for the jump line. You know what they always said? Diamonds are a crackhead's best friend. I think I said that earlier today, too. But you know, what else it occurred to 300 million people all at once, I'm sure. Come on, man. My border peach was much better than my professor Congressman Donald Lump. I remember my first time in the border. Pancho Vio said, "Hose baby, I'm going to be United States Camaro." Well, son of a gun. He ran away when he saw me and my friends at the Al Bordello, Davey Crockett, and his trusty sidekick, Jim David Bowie. Thank you, everybody. Thanks, everyone. He has no idea who David Bowie was. Nor Jim Bowie either. I would guess, but definitely not David Bowie. Today's jump line is brought to you by Jake Rooney's on the curve in Harwichport. Open year round with seasonal favorites. For family, fun, food, and entertainment, it's Jake Rooney's in Harwichport, the exclusive home of the Stone Grilled Dinner, online at jakeroonies.com. Keith Oldberman is greatly ham-handed for demanding the Supreme Court be disbanded. The man is unhinged, part of the Lumetec French into custody. He should be remanded. Guy down here at Newsmax told me today. He said, "Hey, my daughter's boyfriend got into Cornell." And I said, "Really? You know who went there?" He didn't know. I told him. Keith Oldberman. I don't think I made his day. Whether it's guns or diamonds, the Biden family motto is, "When in doubt, throw it out." You know, they got the other motto. Since the guy, the former alleged client, Patrick Ho, is demanding his money back. Another Biden family motto is, "Don't pay the hose." It was revealed in a recently uncovered email that Fannie Willis informed Nathan Wade he may have to change their vacation plans from Club Med to Club Fed. If only that were true. I just can't see him getting jammed up, but I'm wondering now how can they keep them on the case? Joe Biden said, "Hunter is the smartest Neanderthal he knows." 617, "Thanks Car. Frazetti is in the dog house." Oh, yeah. They redistricted a lot of these senate seats in Massachusetts. And you know, I don't think they don't really need to gerrymander to get rid of Republicans because Jim Jones Lyons did such a good job of it. But in the case of Frazetti, his district has been totally dismembered. A couple of other Kool-Aid cult members have had dismembered districts, and I can only say, "Thank you. Thank you Democrats for dismembering these districts." Although, I don't think you were concerned about nailing these Republicans, state committeemen who are complete knuckleheads. Hey, this is Walter Monde. I wanted to congratulate Nikki Haley at winning DC. Now, of course, I won DC and my own home state of Minnesota by 0.18%. So, Nikki, you got a lot of work to do. Yeah, general election, primary election, different thing. Although, I did make that suggestion to what Trump did, that they let Nikki win, just like Reagan let Mondeo win, even though they obviously stole the election. Keith Olderman sounds like a dangerous insurrectionist. Yeah. You know, dissolving the Supreme Court. It's amazing. Whenever they get a decision they like, like Roe v. Wade, way back when, then it's, it's set of law. It's the law of the land. And how dare you say that it should be overturned. But when it goes their way, they don't just, they just, they don't just want to win another election and get their own people on the Supreme Court when their vacancies. They want to just burn the whole place down. I hold in my hand the last time below. Paperboy, Julia Child, Jim Jones-Lions. Name a book, a cook, and a crook. Hey now, hey now. He's got some ongoing investigations, but you know, he pay his committee when he was controlling it had to pay $15,000 in fines for money laundering. He hasn't settled up yet. The committee, when he was in charge of it, had to pay $6,500 in fines to the Federal Elections Commission. Now there's still an ongoing investigation with the Office of Campaign and Political Finance about all those private detective bills that he was moving around the third parties. But he's not, he's not a crook. Come on now. Let's be, let's be fair. The first rule of Brockton High School is that you don't talk about Brockton High School. A little bit of a mess, a little bit of a mess at Brockton High School, but I don't know. What can you say? Just vote for Larry Novak tomorrow for a Republican State Committee. Vote for the crook. It's important. He's running against Door Dash Deal. We'll be talking to Larry later in the show. Howie, maybe the USA is going to hell in the hand basket, but I'll tell you what, the Corona and Modelo sales are way up, are we? They're way up. Yeah, it's been a, it's been a good, an amazing double blow for Mexican beer sales. First, Dylan Mulvaney and now millions of illegal aliens on welfare. With nothing to do all day. That was your last jump line message. Thank you for calling Howie Carr. You chump. All right. 844-542-42. 508 says, "The Dems love the Supreme Court so much when they upheld Obamacare." They went out of their way to go against the law. They twisted it around and massaged it and chopped it up so that they could keep Obamacare. In this case, the Dems were all, they were fine with that. Roe v. Wade was kind of a stretch too. They love that. But in this case, when they say you can't really throw someone off a ballot because you don't like him, that's an attack on democracy. All right. That's it for the Chump Line today. The Chump Line is the recorded voicemail message service of The Howie Carr Show. You can call and leave a message at any time between 1 and 4 p.m. Eastern weekdays. The Chump Line number, if you wish to leave such a message. 844-542-844-542-42. Press 2 for the Chump Line. Leave your message. We may or may not play it at this time each weekday. 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Anything to stop the Kool-Aid cult. We have to start making this Massachusetts a two-party state again and they had four years. Four years. Zero for four years. You are what your record says you are. People want to know Milford, Eric Colton and Amanda Peterson. You've heard both of them on the air. Eric Colton is a veteran and Amanda Peterson is the 19-year-old college freshman. They've slimed even though she won more races than they did in four years when she managed Peter Durant's campaign, winning campaign for a special Senate election. Mendon and Uxbridge. That would be Ryan Chamberlain and Janet Garren. Ryan Chamberlain and Janet Garren. Nadek and Framingham. Nicki Micelli and Leanne Harris. They're both running out of post. Nicki Micelli. There's rumors going around that he was taken to a Celtics game by Sandy Tenant, the topless booze crews Nitt Witt who was thrown in with the Kool-Aid cult. Check out the Herald today. That's a pretty funny story. I wrote the top of it. This is the guy who ran the topless booze crews with Peter Blute, the defeated congressman who'd become the head of Massport. Someone tipped the Herald. There were two crews of photos, of photographers waiting to get the gadget putting up her T-shirt to show off her assets. One of them was my crew. I didn't have the crew but I took the hand off from the crew. I was running the grassy knoll squad. Now he's back giving us a great headline and a chance to run the picture of Gidget holding up her T-shirt. It was thank you Sandy Tenant for making our day. 844-542-42. All right. Today's poll question is brought to you by Perfect Smiles. Don't be fooled by imposters with similar names. If you're unhappy with your smile, you need to visit Dr. Bruce Houghton and Nashua. Call 1-844-a-perfect-smile or visit PerfectSmiles.com. Taylor, what's the poll question? What are the results thus far? Today's poll question which you can vote in at howiecarshow.com is what will Nikki Haley do after she gets shellacked on Super Tuesday? Dropout, suspend her campaign, announce a third party bid or say she's staying in the GOP race all the way. Suspend her campaign. 24% say suspend, 58% say she's staying in, 15% say she'll announce a third party bid and 3% say she'll dropout. All right. 844-542-42. George, you're next with Howie Car, go ahead George. Hi, Howie. Great show. Good job getting the president. Oh God, that was so beautiful. I just wish that he mentioned Mr. Nathan Wade's sweating buckets on the witness stand. They were all sweating buckets. How about Terrence Bradley? He wasn't too pleased to be there either, was he? When I was a young kid and watched Perry Mason with my grandparent, I learned way back then anybody on the witness stand sweating like that guy is guilty. But I'm surprised the Trump lawyers didn't ask Wade, did you ever go to the White House? Because I was wondering about that too. That's a good point George. Yeah. Why did you go? Mr. Wade, I'm looking here at your invoice, your billing sheet, your billable hours. In addition to the 24 hour day right after you were hired, you went to the White House for eight hours and you also met with White House lawyers in Athens or Augusta, Georgia as well on a different day. Exactly. And in Galvin, when they interviewed Galvin, just a little while ago, they edited that because he was disappointed in the Supreme Court. Are you sure about that? Is that what he said? He didn't say it that way. He didn't say he was disappointed and then he started pushing mail and voting. But the thing is he stopped it pretty much. I mean, he, I think he pretty much controls the state ballot law commission and they didn't, they just threw it out. It was ridiculous. I'm Howie Carp. Live from the Matthews Brothers Studios. 844-542-844-542-978. What do you know about Monica Solano? Thank you. Yes, she's on our side. She's on our side. She is not a Kool-Aid cultist. She is not a knucklehead, not a knucklehead. That's all you need to know. If you want to see who I think you should vote for, who's, who wants to win elections rather than lose elections and hire lawyers to sue other Republicans and private detectives to chase other Republicans, go to HowieCarShow.com and look at the banner at the top of the website and click on it. Stop the Kool-Aid cult. 844-542-442-442. Joining us now on the line is the chair of the state Republican Party, Amy Carnavoli. Thanks for being with us, Amy. Thanks for having me on, Howie. Well, you know, it's, you saw the big story in the Herald today. You're, you're, you're, you're running for re-election and the, the Kool-Aid cult has mobilized, took, taken out of mothballs, the Kool-Aid cult navy, the SS Nauticus, captained by Alexander Sandy Tennant. He's the, the guy who ran the, the infamous topless booze crews that toppled an ended torpedoed, I should say, Peter Bloot's career in politics. So he's, he's on your opponent's side of you. Are you here in the footsteps, Amy? You know, I'm, I'm feeling pretty good going into election day. You never know, but I'm feeling confident. Certainly on the other side, you know, I wouldn't imagine this would be a winning strategy. So certainly not one that I'm taking part in. So you, you have to maintain, you know, neutrality other than in your own, your own district and, you know, you're obviously running for re-election. But people should, people should get out and vote. Do you, do you have any idea what percentage of the, the population has already voted and how many of the unenrolls, which is now the vast majority of voters in Massachusetts have taken Republican ballots? Yeah. So I, I do know that Secretary of State was out today talking about some of those numbers and where he expects the votes to come down. He said that the turnout will certainly be higher than what it was four years ago, but perhaps not quite to the level of eight years ago. So, but he's definitely, we're definitely seeing high numbers. Of course, you know, Massachusetts now you vote by mail early voting and then you vote in person. So people are voting all three ways. Hopefully somebody's keeping track of the ballots coming in. And, but we are seeing that the turnout being very high, particularly on the Republican side, which is actually good to see that energy enthusiasm for independent voters taking a Republican ballot. Did Galvin say what percentage of the voters were of the unenrolls were taking Republican ballots this year? Because they have a choice. Yeah, he said 150,000 Republican, Republican ballots have been cast at this point. So he was projecting, I think about 500,000 between 500 and 600,000 at the end of the day. Republican ballots? Republican, yes. Well, that's okay. And how many Democrats do he say? Yeah, I'm sorry, I should know this, Amy. I'm just telling you, I'm letting you be the reporter here. That's okay. He said he was expecting 600,000, which actually seemed low. So, I'll have to go. I just jotted down. I was focusing more on the Republican than it was Democratic. So, we'll go back and check those numbers. Okay. So, that's a really good turnout for the Republican Party in Massachusetts. It is. If it's a half a million or over half a million. 844, 542, 42. Now, Amy, how are you holding up under this, these scurlless attacks on you on a daily basis? Well, it's been somewhat of a bizarre last few days with these attacks. You've kind of coming out of nowhere and really ground this attack. I'm confident of my record where I stand. You know, I've always been a Republican. I was a Trump supporter in 2016 and 2020. Served on the platform committee, the rules committee, credentials committee, the Republican national conventions. And I've been a strong supporter for the agenda promoted by Donald Trump. So, it's really coming out of left field. And, frankly, I attribute it to kind of the death throes of folks who don't like to be out of power. That's what it seems to be for me. So, I'm more about focusing on our candidates and the message over candidates and getting Republicans elected. And I'll continue to focus on that message. It's amazing that you're being accused of being an anti-Trumper by a guy who used to be a Democrat and ran as a Democrat. And when Ronald Reagan was on the Republican ticket and by a guy who voted for Joe Biden in 2008. Right. Right. Just amazing. But we live in crazy times. So, I heard a strange allegation. I mean, just an unhinged attack this morning saying that you had private eyes that were tracking knuckleheads. I heard about that, Howie. And, believe me, the party had resources to hire private eyes. You know, I'd be certainly doing other things with those dollars. We have not hired any private eyes. That was that was a tactic employed by my predecessor. And certainly, we are not expending any resources and have not. This person said he had seen bills from the private eyes to the mass GOP. And that reminded me, I think I'm the one who broke that story. Right. But it wasn't about Amy Carnavali. It was about Jim Jones lions. And some of his minions were hiring these private eyes and then trying to shift the bills over to a third party, which is now the subject of a lengthy investigation by the office of campaign and political finance. Is it not? You're, you're correct about that. And, you know, again, this, this bickering between Republicans doesn't help our party move forward. So I'm focused on the poll. We've got plenty to talk about with the Democrats, whether it's the illegal migrant crisis, affordability in Massachusetts. And those are the issues we should be talking about rather than these scurrilous attacks. And then there was another, there was another rather bizarre accusation. I guess it was in print and on the airwaves that you had had a public endorsement of Chris Doherty during the 2022 campaign. It's news to me, Howie. I did vote for him at the convention because I thought he was the candidate most likely to win at the general. But news to me that there was a public endorsement. So that was more fake news like the, like the private eyes that you've hired. Exactly. Private eyes. They're also apparently saying I donated to Democrats today too, which, you know, that's also fake news and never donated a penny to Democrats. Are they just making this stuff up at a whole cloth? Like they, you know, like last week, last week, you and I were engaged in a pay to play scheme when we were just, you were just trying to pay me back to actually, as you pointed out, to avoid litigation, you know, the mailroom manager was going to sue because if we didn't get the money back, it would be an in-kind contribution. So we would be dragged into their criminal conspiracy. That's right. It's right. Yeah, obviously, you know, just trying to do what was right by the party and required by law. It's almost like the people that are making these accusations don't understand federal and state election regulations. They don't understand the criminal code and they also don't understand FCC regulations because if I had been doing that, that would have jeopardized the license of the radio station. Would it not? That's right. That's right. Certainly would. Someone says those are private eyes following the Kool-Aid cult. Those are credit collectors. Repo men. Repo men. It's hard to make a living with door dash, doing door dash deliveries if they take away your car. All right, Amy Carnavoli, thank you. Thanks for being with us and people can vote tomorrow. Early voting is over, but you can vote in person tomorrow from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Get out and vote even if you don't have a contested race on the state committee level, be sure to get out and vote. It's the right thing to do. Thank you, Amy. Thanks for being with us. 844-542-42. I hope that we'll have a correction tomorrow. Those aren't private eyes chasing the Kool-Aid cult. Those are credit collectors. 844-542. I told you on Friday I'd run out of my Omaha steak burgers that I eat all the time all week long. I cook them up and then I just put them in the microwave and I said I was going to make a couple more over the weekend. I just did it this morning so I'm all set for the next few days. I got the Omaha steaks there that I like the burgers. 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It's easy to get a posse together to go after lions but skunks or another matter all together and that's that's what the cool aid cult is. 844-542-42. We're running the the request show here. Gardener. Michael Fountain and Holden Board of Select Chair Stephanie Mulroy. I think she may be on in the next hour. 844-542-844-542. Another question. What do you know about Monica Solano? She's on our side. Vote for Monica. Monica Solano. Chris, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead Chris. Hey, Howie. I just wanted to let you and all your viewers know that the Libertarian Primary is tomorrow at the Libertarian Party, it's a major party in Massachusetts. Thanks to Chris Crawford and her awesome work going against Deb Goldberg. Do you have a primary though, Chris? Yes, we do. So I am on the Chase Oliver campaign. I am one of their volunteers for that campaign and we are running against Jacob Pawnburger. We're running against a couple of other candidates. They're multiple candidates for the Liberty. Are you? I mean, is this a I'm sorry, Chris. If I'm insulting you, I apologize, but is this a gag? There's a there's a there's a Libertarian State Committee. This is news to me. Do we lose them? I think. Could that be could he be serious? 844-542-42. Michael, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Michael. Hey, Howie. It's Mike Scarlato, a Republican State Committee candidate in the first sessions in Middlesex District, which includes North Reading, all the way up to Glass of Rockport, over to Salisbury Newburghport and every town in between. The goal of the State Committee and Mike Kennedy is to elect Republicans at the local level. I believe it is important to build our Republican farm team, which means electing Republicans to our city councils, select boards, and school committees. Once they gain experience and we hope down the road, they will decide to run for the legislature. This will help the Republican Party make some serious inroads on Beacon Hill. The Republican representation in my district is anemic. This must change. And I'm ready to lead the efforts of the crew and promote Republicans to run Selective Office in the first Essex and Middlesex District. Thank you, Howie. Thank you, Michael. 844-542-42. Well, I'll try to we'll try to get those to as many of these these requests for candidates in the they're coming in really fast and furious now. So we'll get to them in the break if we can. Janet, you're next with Howie Carr. Go ahead, Janet. Hi, Howie. I have a question. Don't you say all that this is dividing the Republican Party further? And this is something a Democrat would never do to their own party? Well, yeah, I think the Kool-Aid cult has had their chance. They went zero for 2020 and zero for 2022. They did not win a single election, Janet. And now they want to come back. Why did why did they want to come back? Why do you you're you're a rhino, Ron, Holly, you really are. Wait a second. Wait a second. You want to hear? Wait a second. Hold on. Can I have cut 25, please? We'll have it. Hey, friend, take care of yourself, Howie. Do you think you would say that about a rhino, Janet? Yes, because it doesn't know your true college yet, Howie. You're dividing up for your public and party worse. You don't even live full time in the state of Massachusetts. Janet Janet, Janet, can you name me Janet? Can you name me Janet? Can you name me one race, the Kool-Aid cult one? Can you name me one race? An open seat? Did they did they get rid of a single sitting Democrat, Janet? One? Give me one. One. Can you name one? You are calling people names. So you can't name one. And so why would you want to bring people back into power who can't win a single? You know how many? There's 200 legislative seats every two years, 200. And they couldn't oust a single Democrat. They couldn't win a single open seat out of 200. And then there's what, there's nine congressmen, two senators, what, five, six constitutional officers, all the governors council positions. I mean, where does and they couldn't win a single one, Janet? They had, they took over, there were $700,000 in the bank accounts. When they left, there were $600,000 in debt. They stiffed people who had legitimate bills so they could give the money to DoorDash deal's moronic campaign for governor. Thanks for the call, Janet. Come on. One Democrat that's done this to their party. Can you? Who's done what Jeff, Jeff Deal and Jim Lyons did to their party? No, I can't. But you know, maybe, maybe they're secret agents. Jim, Jim Jones, Lyons ran twice as a Democrat. Who did who did Jeff deal vote for in the primary in 2008? He had a choice between Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden? You know who he voted for? He voted for Joe Biden. He's a Biden voter. I mean, let's play the cut. Let's play the cut from Donald Trump about this. Cut 24. President Biden. Well, the same people are trying to get back in. They're led by a guy who, who worked for Cruz in 2016. And he's assisted by a guy who voted for Biden in the Democrat primary in 2008. And they tried. Well, everybody that voted for Biden should not be involved in Republican politics up there that I can tell you. Period.