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Follow me at Josh out of Myers on all social media and follow the podcast at the 500 podcasts. Email the podcast at 500 podcasts at gmail.com. Follow the Facebook group run by Crazy Evan and for all things 500 go to the website the 500 podcast.com. All right y'all not left to say but here we go at number 205 out of five with wheels of fire by the power trio of cuisine. In a Federman there's a way in finally he gets to do an album he likes that is relevant to them. Usually he does some weird blues record and when I offer this one to him he damn near shit himself. There we did it. Wayne. Wayne. I mean Wayne. No I know that I'm just a building it up for. Okay I've been so excited about this because I feel like I'm finally finally couldn't believe you've come in clutch for so many obscure records but no one fucking knows shit you did two of them in the span of three weeks that no one could have given a fuck about and you came in prepared and ready to rock and when we were coming up with booking this I mean we were we were going like big guitarist and it we either we had a roadblock or it was like I'd you know Tom Rillows busy or this and then I was just like let's give it to Wayne. I know he knows it and like I haven't done one with him while and I know how happy he'll be because it's not like you know you know but no blind will it Jenkins and the and the two-step shuffle boys. His name was Pintop was yeah. So the first question I want to ask if we're gonna be going to get into this is Caitlyn Clark better than pistol Pete Maribotch. It's a whole different thing. Good question. Good question. She's been an amazing college basketball player and she's doing pretty good in the pros so I am a huge fan of Caitlyn Clark right but I this is something you don't know but I've been following the WNBA since it was founded. I know you own jerseys and hats and merch. No I don't do that but I've been to games. I've been to finals. I've been to I I've always liked women's basketball but the biggest fans of women's basketball believe it or not and this is from the commissioner Adam Silver. Believe it or not to people like me like middle-aged white guys who like who enjoy all black women better. Oh yeah you think it would have been like lesbians and yeah you know nothing like that like that was the biggest fans of until Caitlyn Clark when Caitlyn Clark I think is captured like a Taylor Swift. Yeah oh for sure it's runaway success and she deserves it. She's so good. Do you think that kind of says people are there's somebody mad right now that been waiting for this album? I know I know podcast. I'll give her shit. I don't get to talk I don't get to see you that often and I love you. You know how much I love you. You're fattywap. The whole thing with you do you think she's getting like the Michael Jordan treatment in the league right now? Like the hard fans. Every rookie does. Every rookie does but she's incredible. She's doing great. She's doing great. I have never been to a WNBA game. I'm gonna see how long I can keep that street going. Well Washington has one of the worst team. Missnicks are terrible. Yeah yeah yeah. That's one of the worst teams but one of my favorite things to do is to make up fake WNBA player names. Oh that's good. So I'd be like all right. This is the power forward. Schlamika coleslaw. Oh I see. Schlamika. She's Jewish. Oh Schlamika. It's incredible. She can go to her right. She can go to her left. Pull up. Midrange Schlamika is amazing. She makes an amazing brisket. She's very good. They call it deckle. How are you doing buddy? Are you good? I'm doing pretty well. I had a, believe it or not, I had a a cult yesterday. Oh thank God. I thought you said my boy sound okay. You sound like Biden during the debate. I don't know. It's like I was in Baltimore this weekend. Great club, the port comedy club. Big shout out to Matt Hector and Mike, my openers. I had a great time. You know it's right after the debate which was on Thursday night and you know I was at the seller watching a little bit of it and I remember no the owner was like no the owner was like oh my God it's over. Trump won. It's it's terrible blah blah blah. And then I go into the thing and I go on stage and I start talking because I'm from Maryland and I love the name here. I love. Wait were you're like you may remember that really? Before Florida. I lived in Silver Spring Maryland. That's true. Yes. Lifetime Redskins fan. Yes. Yes. Good football team. We call them. Now we still don't. I didn't hear any of that. What did that change? Right. I think it was I think it was Schlamika coleslaw that started the thing. But I was talking about how I love the D and the M but the V can go fuck itself. I think Virginia is the shitty estate. It's racist. You did. Yeah. And I was like you can't cream pie there. And then I was like that's what Biden should go on stage. He goes this guy wants to take away cream pass. I'm pro cream. I don't know quite what that means. Is that a sexual thing? Yeah. It's it means finishing inside the woman. Oh, I got you. That's how life is created. Yeah. Cream pie. Cream pie is the funny, cute word, you know, instead of war. Jackulating inside a woman. Yeah. You don't, you know, shit. I'm going to ejaculate. Oh, okay. You don't do that. And Logan's going to Logan's recording this now. She's going to cancel as you. I'm sorry about this. Um, but regardless, regardless, regardless, regardless, regardless, we are here today. Talk about. Creme. Oh my God. I didn't even think about that. Yeah. That's why I'm the comedian. That's the only thing you're doing. If I can, what, 59 years? How long you've been doing it? 40. It might be 40. Yeah. It's in the field. I love it. You still don't even have a good five minutes. I don't. I can't have a loose and then if three minutes in, I do my famous line. So what else? So what else? And about seven minutes. And I go, where are you from? Where are you? We want to talk about folks. Yeah. What do you guys? What are you guys really talking about? So we do it. We're doing a record that that I think for the first time, no, I think Steve Miller band. Yeah. And that you really wanted to do. So what's great is that I didn't do any research with Morty on this. I didn't do anything. Sorry. So everybody knows our album today is number two or five out of 500 is creams wheels of fire release. Let me just take a little scoodle released twice in the US June 14th, 1968. Let's just stay with that. It was recorded during 67 and 68 in winterland in the film war in France, San Francisco, and the studio also in London. Oh, yeah. So it's a live album and it's a studio record. And it's produced by Felix popularity. What a great name. Yeah. All right. So when I texted you about this, because this is finally my first time really digging into a cream record. I never listened to the I know I know I never listened to one all the way through. But dude, I know like white room and crossroads and students sitting on the top of the world. Good God. There's some shit on here. I don't like like I didn't give a fuck about passing the time. But I mean, what a fucking record. What a mission statement as a band. I couldn't imagine what this was like hearing it for the first time when it came out. And I remember when I texted you, you said, I still remember the first time I heard it. So tell me all about it. Well, one of the lucky things about I had an older brothers and sisters is they were the ones that were into rock. You know, I was only nine years old in it. But my old brother like 12, 14. So he was really into it. So when he bought this app, I remember him unwrapping the album. But a double album I had never, I think the Beatles had that white album came out around the same time. You can check that out Logan, whatever. I know it's both 68. So it was like, what do you have two records in it? This is incredible. And half of its life, the second album's live first album studio. And to this day, the song you open the podcast with white room is my favorite cream song more than gone, gone, gone, gone. Now, now, that's sunshine of your love. Yeah, the Beatles, the Beatles white album came out on November 26 again, 1968. Yeah, so it's before even the white album came out. So I was, you know, again, I know it doesn't seem like anything now that someone would be excited that there was a double album. Again, but it was Oh my God. And as soon as he started playing white, right, it just it I couldn't believe it. Especially the second verse when he starts doing the wah wah pedal, the wah wah pedal, which I had heard a little from Hendrix already. But God, the call and response when he sings and then the guitar player responds. I mean, it's as good as well, obviously, I love it. But it was incredible. What did it sound like to you? I mean, it sounded like every band that I've ever listened to. It's the blueprint for all the music that I love. Yeah, yeah. You know, I don't know if that's like every band has influenced my own, but because it's literally just blues. It's just blues. It's all this shit that we've been listening. It's the BB King's. It's the Albert King. It's the Freddie King. A lot of Kings. It's the Paul Butterfield blues band. It's all that shit. Yeah. But this has a grungy, you know, crunchy feel to it. And here's the thing is that I don't I know this is like a supergroup, right? So tell me about like this is this is your chance to shine. This is this is why we bring the fettie on. I don't want to do the research. You host for me. Tell me what you know about the band, how we got there. And then I'll add some stuff. Please, please interrupt with questions all the way along by the way along. But I agree with you. Cream, which was named because they were the cream of the guys in this blue scene in London, even outside of London, there was a crazy just obsession of the whitest of the white people. People from England, right? They are the whitest. I think I think Australians might be the white. Whatever, but they're up there. They're up there. I mean, when you think of like, when I would watch those old Tarzan movies, all of the like white guys that came down there were all all had English accents. It was like a obvious thing. So for some reason, and I think it might have been, and I'd be curious what you think as a musician, I think it might have been the authenticity of the music hit them in a way that maybe pop songs that were around at the time didn't hit them. I have no idea why John Mayall and all of those guys just went nuts for this kind of music. We have that record actually coming up. We have John Mayall, the Blues Breakers. Oh, you do. Yeah, we have that coming. You might be doing it. But you know, you know, this is what was so before this, was there anybody doing anything like this? Like, yes, of course we'd listen. One of the albums that we'll be talking about later with Logan is the Yardbirds. We did two yard birds records and Clapton was in the Yardbirds and they were a blues band. Before that, Clapton was playing with a band called The Roosters and they were and they did some blues. But Cream, they took the best guys from that scene. That was Clapton was the guitar player. It's just a trio. And then on bass, a guy named Jack Bruce and then drummer, a guy named Ginger Baker, Ginger is not his real name. He was named Ginger because his hair. He's a ginger. He's a ginger. Back then, it wasn't a Jewish boy. It wasn't a slur. It was just is it a slur now? Yeah, of course. I mean, I guess it gets it does have that kind of connotation. But you know, I don't think anybody you ginger. You're a ginger. I do it with the A. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's not the hard hour. Yeah, I don't want your cancer. Come on. So, uh, so they took these guys. But the crazy thing is that Baker and Bruce, the bass player and the drummer, and by the way, he was more than just a bass player. Jack Bruce was also composed a lot of these songs. He had a writing partner with him and could also play harmonica and was the lead singer basically for the band, not Eric Clapton. Eric Clapton only sang in maybe five or six of Cream songs, one of them Crossroads, which we'll talk about in a little bit. So, um, there's this scene and they call it a supergroup. But, um, yes, they took them from different bands. At the time, Jack Bruce was playing, I think with Manford Man. Do you remember that band? I do not know. Okay. Also at one point to two of them were in something called the Graham Bond. God damn it. What is it called experience or something like that? I will, I will look that up and Graham Bond was this organist who played blues, but he also played jazz and it's just this legendary guy in that scene ends up very depressed, ends up killing himself by throwing himself under a train. Uh, like, but anyway, they were in that band with the Graham Bond, John McGoughlin. I don't know if you know that great guitar player. He was in that. Anyway, jazz player jazz. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, the Graham Bond organization. That's what it was called because the guy played the organ. The organ. Yes. I see that. I'm see he's a Graham Bond organization. Cream, John Mayall and the blues breakers, blues incorporated Manford Man, Tony Williams lifetime. Yeah. Yeah. I got it all. Yeah. I got it all. Yeah. So clapton. I don't know if he, if I said clapton is God, would that mean anything? Yes. I, I know the story. First clapton record we did on the podcast. We actually had, um, Joe Saturiani on. What? You know, yeah, crazy, huh? One of the, you know, most technically advanced, you know, guitarists out there, uh, you know, every genre, whatever you want to call it. The guy can play it. He's taught so many greats like Steve Fi and, but you know, he was the one we, we, we got a long discussion about that. And, um, you know, I, I think why would why I'm going to get your opinion. Why would people say that? I'll tell you, because again, did we have this burgeoning blues scene, which is not pop music. This is not Beatles music. This is not popular. This is not, well, it's popular in England. And it's, it's a scene. I'm trying to think if there's something like that's similar to that. It's not like grunge that like took over everything. Yeah. Well, like a subset of other rock music that people like, like dumb stuff. I would say it was like grunge before it took over. There's something going on. They're playing music in a different way. Yeah. Kids are going nuts for it. There's an aesthetic to it. So that was the, the blues scene. So Clapton and it comes out of the rooster. He joins the yard birds. The yard birds go to pop for him. So he has to leave. They had this song called four year love for your love. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Clapton was like, I can't do this. But love, is that it? You know all of these songs. More like a neo psychedelic kind of like, you know, incense, peppermint ripples and time. Very good. Look at you. I'm not an idiot. Do I know why you wait? No, I know. You're making me feeling I don't know shit. I'm doing a podcast of music for five years, bro. You think it doesn't just go in one ear and go out the other. I sponge, bro. I absorb not everything. And then we squeeze and sometimes the juice. And then I find out that yeah, Felix, papalade also produced Mississippi Queen. He wrote that with mountain. Yep. He sure did. And we're going to get into a couple other aspects that I think you're going to be really enjoy one of the engineer for these records was a guy named Tom Dowd. We're going to talk about him. And then obviously we're going to talk about the roots of the blues music. But before we get to that, yeah, take us there. Before we even get to any of that stuff. So Clapton leaves and joins John Mayall and the blues breakers or whatever they're called. And at that point, he really, he is the one that some people say, he's admitted. He goes like, I just studied what BB King and Abra King and all of the Kings and all of these guys were doing guitar wise. But he could do all of those licks. He's in his early twenties. And he just absorbs it in a almost savant way is the way I would describe it. Like all the thing, the pull offs, the hammer ons, the double stop, the bends, the vibrato, all of those techniques. He can do those phrases on his guitar effortlessly. And he's not show. He just stands there and plays the hell out and people, people notice. Boring show. One of the most boring concerts I've ever been to with Eric Clapton at the Garden. I mean that. I'm not. Dude, it really sucked. He didn't even say anything racist. I'd say at least go on a fucking racist tyrant. Well, give me something, dude. I want something about Pakistani people. Yeah, come on, dude. Do you want to hear some funny? Yeah. Off topic. I got called a racist three nights ago as a seller. I was like doing like comedy and I was like, there's five guys in the front that were all Indian and they were having the best time. And I wasn't being racist at all. But I was mentioning in the race show. Yeah, I would be like, it was being racial, but all they were loving it. They were having the best time. The guys were, it was just the best. And I'm going to get like five clips and I'm going to post next week. And the guy like, he looked at him afterwards, he goes, dude, I had the best time ever. Thank you for bringing me up and bringing me out of my shell. And I'm out front because I always like to get out front of the seller to like get people to follow me. I have my QR code of my Instagram, my phone. And I say, just I tell him, I'll be out there if you want to follow me. I'd love to see you back. And you'll take a picture with them. Oh, yeah, I'll do whatever they want. And then these three Indian chicks come out and they're like 21, 22. And they're like smiling at me. I'm like, Oh, they love me. And then they go, you fucking suck. And I was like, what? They're like, you're fucking racist. I'm like, no, I'm not. I was like, I wasn't racist at all. They're like, all you do was make fun of one race the whole time. I was like, no, I did not. And the guy had a great time. I'm so sorry you think that, but I am not racist. She's like, fuck you. You're fucking horrible. That wasn't funny. Fuck off. And then they walk off. And then the next guy that walks out is this big, like country bumpkin. And he's like, man, that was the funniest shit I've ever heard in my whole life. He's like, you're great, dude. You're funny. You're funny. So that's the story. All right. Sorry about that. Where were we? No, you were I can I add something to your sidebar? Am I allowed to sidebar the sidebar? Okay. So this is a double sidebar. Logan, hold on. We don't know what's going to happen here. When I was starting doing comedy, before there were cell phones, obviously 40 years ago, and anything like that, I would also hang out like outside is the crowd left, just and we called that trolling for compliments. Sure. Oh, yeah, I've been there done that. That was it. Just like, all right, I know I just had a great time here. Let me get some more ego satisfaction, but just have people look at me shake my hand high five. I'm not older than that. I'm not older than the high five. So that I that was around when I started the high five. But yeah, we used to call it trolling for compliments. I always thought that was a great expression. Hey, everybody. So you guys have probably heard me talk about how I've been in bands my whole life. I love writing songs and performing in front of crowds. Just like with comedy as a musician, it can be kind of hard to cut through the noise and really stand out as an artist. 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So whether it's Cousin Kevin's Kazoo concert in Kansas City, go Kevin or Becky's Bachelor at Bash in Bermuda, you never have to miss a trip ever again. So download the Priceline app today. Your savings are waiting. All right. Back to Cream. So anyway, during his time with the Yardbirds, with John Mayo's Bluesbreakers, which he left because the Yardbirds were too, which is the word for a commercial. And by the way, the two guitarists that replace him basically in the Yardbirds are Jeff Becker, we're going to talk about in Jimmy Page, who you know, of course. So it's a scene. It is a crazy scene. And somebody wrote on a wall clapped in his God during this period. They clapped in, which is so much better than all of those guys. And that's basically has stayed with him for years. And again, I'm sorry you had a boring concert, but he's not Hendrix. He's not Jimmy Page running around doing all that. No, that way. But the problem, he didn't even play like lay down Sally. Like he didn't play like so many songs. He did like five or six really obscure blues songs that no one gave a fuck about. And then he did acoustic versions of Layla. No, he didn't, he didn't even play Layla, dude, to be honest with you. I'm actually, I'm going to look up the, while you look, I'm all right. The fuck it. No, I want to look at the set. Let's see. You can just go out. Oh my God, that he'd barely played anything. All right, continue, continue. So anyway, so, so that is the clapped in his God. And then he ends up leaving John Mayall. He has an idea of how he wants to do the blues. And it's less harmonica is my guess, is my, because even though there's that Jack Bruce does play harmonica, he'd like that is kind of like the blues instrument. In fact, he records crossroads with a band called Eric Clapton's powerhouse. This is between the two of them, obscure thing. You don't even know much about Eric Clapton's powerhouse, but that was a recorded four songs, including crossroads at that time. And then he decides with Bruce and Baker to create cream and see if they can do just like, we're just going to get the best musicians in town to try to create this blue scenes. And it takes off. They only make, I believe four albums, right? It's fresh stream, the Israeli gears, wheels of fire. And then they decide to break up. And this is insane. They do a breakup album. Have you ever heard of that? I've never heard of the well, the, the, the band. Oh, that final concert they did. Yeah. I mean, that's, that's kind of that, right? Yeah. Yeah. I guess there's other bands that were just like, okay, but that was sort of their greatest hits. They did have an album called Goodbye Cream. That was their last cell phone. Like, this is it, kids. We're out of here. And then they broke up. And part of the reason they broke up is Ginger Baker and Jack Bruce. Could not get along. Not even did not get along, loathe each other. Yeah. To the point where, because Jack Bruce, they were starting to really, this is the era of the Marshall amplifiers. And so this is when the bass could be easily drowned out, a drummer, you know, used to be drummers or loud, like, Hey, keep it down. Suddenly, like, Oh, the drums aren't even loud enough anymore. Yeah. And cream is a very loud band. So he would face his bass amplifier towards Ginger Baker and just make his life miserable to this, before Ginger Baker died, he said that he lost his hearing because of Jack Bruce. Really, that's crazy that it's it's the drummer is the one complaining about loud. But remember earlier, we were talking about that, that crazy band, the bond. And they were both in that band, and Ginger Baker fired Jack Bruce out of that band and pulled a knife on. So it was very like, crazy England kind of street thuggery going on there. Yeah, it was really bad, really bad. And I don't know why Eric Clapton, like, why they didn't say anything, just like, I can't play with this guy. So so that's what happened. And then they didn't play together for until they got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And then they read either one more concert. One more concert series at Royal Albert Hall, and then in New York City. And then that was it. Have you ever seen the documentary about Ginger Baker? No, without giving away anything. This super fan puts up all this money to do this documentary. And by the end, Ginger Baker ends up because he has a cane now because he's so all hitting him in the face of the case, blood, there's blood coming down his face, the documentarian, the guy just asking him questions. Why did he why did he do that? And he asked him something like personal or I guess? I mean, all I know is Ginger Baker is I would use the word volatile to yeah, I had heard that. I had heard that like he I mean, well, was it him or leave on? No, it was Ginger Baker. I remember they're being an article maybe in the Washington Post about Ginger Baker and how eccentric he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's a good word. So who knows? Maybe he was upset about being called a ginger all those years, like right in his name. Any time everyone wrote about it, he felt like a slur. What do you think? He's like, it's actually it's dirty brown. Yeah, that's what my real name is about him in ginger. Dirty brown. Very good. So that was an interesting dynamic. Also, what's great about this album and this era is this is the birth of the kind of popular music that I love the most, which is the guitar hero. And that's clapped in and then back. They all the are birds guys, Jimmy Page. And then of course, you know, Jimmy Hendrix. And then we're off to the races. And then I've right up through Stevie Raven and Eddie Van Halen and all of that. I always like guitar. I just like the virtuosity of the playing. So is this Tommy, you know? Oh, yeah. Is this around the same time as Led Zeppelin? Like right before, right? So Zeppelin's 70s, right? No, no, no, Zeppelin forms in 68. The year this album comes out and tours a little. The first album Led Zeppelin one comes out early 69. Led Zeppelin to end of 69. So I know Led Zeppelin seems like a 70s band, but they're really from this era. Also playing a lot of blues. Were they the biggest band in the 70s? Yeah. Well, I think Led Zeppelin was the biggest band. And the only band that could possibly compete with them was the Rolling Stones, which had huge stadium tours. And believe it or not, pomacarnine wings had a nice run there of playing stadiums. Oh, yeah. Zeppelin was was it. But again, this is from this whole aesthetic of like, oh, and the way they recorded this album, wheels of fire and the other albums, Israeli Gears and everything, is just really accentuated the guitar playing the virtuosity, the skill, the effortlessness of a young era classic. He might be 25 years old or something at this point. So it's, he's the youngest one in the band, Ginger, the oldest Jack versus in the middle. So it's big as they were in England, cream was bigger in the United States. Really? Oh, yeah, cream was. Yeah, we lost our minds when we heard this, this kind of music just lost their minds. And they toured, they sold out, and they were signed to Atlantic Records. So and the rock and roll division, which was called Atco. Were they the heaviest band of the time? You know, it's, it's a good question because I don't know exactly. I know at the time, Black Sabbath was coming around, but definitely, yeah. And we're going to talk about that engineer, Tom Dowd, who was the chief engineer. If I may do a quick sidebar about this side, any way you want to go, baby, this is your Tom Dowd, who was one of only three engineers in the rock and roll Hall of Fame. There's only three of them. And that's how incredible this dude was. Boy genius went to dive into high school, studying physics, get goes to Columbia, goes to call and gets drafted, ends up working on something called the Manhattan Project in Manhattan. It's not in Los Alamos, not in New Mexico. I don't know if you saw Oppenheimer, but that's all about that project to create the first. I haven't seen Oppenheimer, but I've seen Redenbacher, which is about the guy, the popcorn guy. Yeah, yeah, that's a good one. I remember that was a big thing when that movie came out, everyone dressed up. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was. So anyway, so the project, this top secret project to build the nuclear atomic bomb to end World War II, Tom Dowd is like a 19 year old working on the physics of that in Columbia, top secret at the time. That's how much of a genius this dude was. Wow. Looking at is like, you know, line of Eddie Money, BG's, skinnerd, Clapton, Cream, Lulu, the Almond Brothers, Meatloaf, and it goes on and on. But he invents faders. Do you know, when you see on a board, like people like using faders? No, there used to be knobs. And like, I can't play, I need to play the soundboard as well. Oh, we're like turning it up and down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just when you see the sliders on a like 24 track, eight track, anything like that, he invents that there was anything. What the fuck, really? Yeah, he's incredible. He's like, he's just a mad genius who loves, he just loves music. And he took all the knowledge he had from physics and Columbia and all of that and put it into how to record these bands. Because there's two things that go on in a recording studio. You know, you record. There's the producer, which is there to keep the decide which is the best track and all of that, make the band, make everyone happy, get the thing, get it all done. And then there's the engineer who has the hardest job, in my opinion, because he is the person, it's mainly he, sometimes she has to take what's happening in that studio and put it on that tape, put it on that tape and make it sound close to what happened in there, capture it. Engineers are all about capturing what's going on in the studio. So he was this, obviously, this genius who did that. And a lot of time, don't forget cream. This is the era of the SG, the Gibson SG and the Les Paul and stacks of amplifiers. So that would all be way too loud for most recording studios, you know, because they're like, you couldn't go over the red line. So he figured out a way, compression, all of that stuff. And he is, he's an important part of this story of why cream was so popular, was the way those records sounded. Like you said, when you heard it, it sounds pretty, still sounds pretty good, right? Oh, you know, it's, it's a great, this is a great record. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm putting aside the live album live albums is great because it's fun and it's live and it's that yeah, the studio record, there's not many misses on it. Like it's a pretty solid album in my opinion. There's a couple of things I'm not in love with, but for the most part, I mean, it sounds great. I love that they open with White Room. I love that they go right into sitting on top of the world. I didn't like passing the time. That's a ginger baker song. It was a pretty lame one, you know, and then born under a bad sign, press rat and word hog. What about politician? Did you ever get it? Did you ever get to that? Sure. I listened to the whole record like three times. It's funny. It's like, I, this, I forgot to, I'm starting to get back when I do the podcast into like pulling, pulling sections of music out to play. But I knew that you knew the record so well, and I've been traveling so much, I just didn't have time to sit down and do it. But the moral of that is the second half, I love the first half, but I think the second half is probably the one that I'm like really vibing on. So it's talking to me about politician. Yeah. Well, it's another one of these. This is why Jack Bruce was so key to this band was him and his guy Pete Brown, which is writing partner, uh, wrote this song. This is Eric Clapton. I don't think wrote one song on this entire album. I might double check it, but I'm looking right now. He did not get it. It's all, it's all Jack Bruce Pete Brown. There's a lot of, you know, there's some, some covers, but right, right, right. A lot of Bruce Brown, Baker Taylor, Booker T. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he, they're doing blues covers. They're covering howling wolf with the sitting on top of the world and born under bad sign. They just were very creative writing these songs. Again, cream had two sides to them. They had this premiere power trio that would sing these incredible songs showcasing showcasing Eric Clapton. This whole band was a showcase for Eric Clapton. And then underneath it, you have this extremely creative base player, which we'll get to with the, I know you don't want to talk about the live album. We have to talk about, we have to talk about crossroads for, for real. Yes. And then this drummer who was a jazz drummer, traditional jazz. They used to call it trad jazz. Have you ever heard that expression? No. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I guess traditional is too big a word for English people to say. And then he figured out, I don't know how it happened, but he did like kind of like African rhythms on his Tom Tom. So that's what he was known for. And again, this is not only the guitar hero era. This is the era of these very showcasing drummers, Ginger Baker, Mitch Mitchell over with the Jimi Andrews experience. Obviously with the who, obviously a couple of years later, Ringo Starr and then Led Zeppelin with John Bonham. And a traditional jazz drummer is a little more like Charlie Watts was not showing anything like that. And then suddenly she got Ginger Baker, who won their very first album, has a song called Toad, which is this long drum solo way before Moby Dick. And we're like, Oh my God, they're showcasing just the drummer. And they do a version of Toad on this on the live version. So it's again, these are phenomenal musicians, phenomenal. And we'll talk about Jack Bruce's bass playing when we get to Crossroads a little bit and great songwriters. And like, these are great songs. But the point was they had that part of the band. And then they also had this weird kind of like English musical novelty song side to the band, you know, very quiet, like little ditties they would do that like in contrast. So every song wasn't, it's not like AC DC where every song is like a banger. Yeah, incredible. And then all of a sudden they're doing this weird like kind of semi funny sarcastic song. But they but what's in that's what's funny is the incredible stuff is so good that it it buries the shit stuff that you're just like, it's all good because white room, Holy Lola, you know, time can suck it. But you know, you're totally nailing, you're totally nailing it. So and that's it. And that was that album. Again, covers of blues classics, excuse me, just so we're specific cover of electric blues classics, like sitting on top of the world or born under a bad sign. Those are from the Chicago like they plugged in the these guitars and made electric Chicago blues. And then there's also something called Delta blues, which is where Chicago blues came came up the river, came out of the south. We can't deal with these people down here. We got a migrate north. And there's all these African Americans are in Chicago. They're in Detroit creating Motown. They're in Philadelphia. We're going to stay on white room just first because that's the title track. That's the first track on the album, the song I still love, still my favorite. And one of the great things about that song is the use of this new device called the Wawa pedal is actually the Clyde McCoy Wawa pedal. And it this is the first time we're hearing. I mean, we had heard a little with Jimi Hendrix with Boudou Child. And then to me, it's if I was rating my top three Wawa songs from that era, I would go this way. You ready? Yeah, I would go number one, this song, I don't even know if it's called rainy day, but it sounds like it's a Jimi Hendrix song. It goes rain a day, rain all day. It's like whatever that song is, is that's my favorite. Okay. And number two, white room, Eric Clapton playing the Wawa. And number three, Jack Beck. Oh, wow. Recently passed away. Is that correct? Yeah, not too long ago, a couple of years ago, I think of the most acts from the Yardbirds. This song on his truth album with Rod Stewart called Ain't Super Sticious. And if you ever just want to listen to three incredible Wawa songs, listen to, that would be. Yeah, dude. If you were like, and again, this was just like a new thing they had just invented. And I don't know if you even know what a Wawa does. When you have like tone, it's not a volume pedal. It's a tone pedal. So it goes from a lot of treble to a lot of bass to a lot of treble to a, but it's just in the mid range section. So it goes back and forth. And somebody at Vox who also made the Beatles amplifiers was like, wait a minute, that's a cool sound. Maybe a guitar player could use a pedal to go back and forth. And they put that machinery inside a volume pedal for a organ. So anyway, this is really like very precise of the time kind of guitar. Yeah, again, but again, I think, clapped and benefited from this explosion of the Wawa pedal, these huge, huge, martial amplifiers, and these great guitars that, you know, from the late 50s with Les Paul's to the SG's to these double cutaway, it was just, he really benefited from a 10 years earlier, he would have had none of that for his sound. So it's a real technological explosion going on as well as a reinterpretation. Because clapped and always says, like, when a person interviews, they're like, how do you play like that? He goes, I don't know, I'd listen to BB King. You can listen to BB King. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, I'm not doing anything that's that insane. But I think he underplays it a little bit because he was so on top of it. Is this this is the most iconic song? Definitely, right? Between that and Sunshine of Your Love. Those are the two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But actually, that might be more because that that that riff. Yeah. This is a this is a hit. This is number six in the Billboard Hot 100. They've been a last major hit before they broke up in '68. Did your maker get no writing credit for it? Even though he came up with the five four Bolero introduction. Maybe that's what I pulled a knife and don't. What? Did we talk about that yet? No, we did. But earlier when he was, no, I didn't say there was rivalry. I didn't even pull a knife. Yes, he did earlier. Earlier, he had pulled a knife. He was a very volatile guy. Like I said, he beat up his documentarian. That's the thing we needed. Can we talk a little and then close this all out on maybe the greatest live showcase? I know you saw Clapton that is worse than Madison Square Garden. I have the lineup. I have him. Let me tell you what he did. Yeah, let me just this is what this is what we get into this. So he opened with God Save the Queen, then he goes tearing us apart. Yeah. Then he goes in a key to the highway. Okay, I'm your hoochie-coochie man. Yeah, that's muddy. All right. Rivers of tears or river of tears. Then this is with the full band. Then he does I shot the sheriff. Okay, there we go. So we're now we're like, I don't like that. The reggae classic. I mean, it's a great song. Then he goes acoustic. Well, wait, the guy shot the sheriff, but he didn't shoot the deputy. No, he did not. He did not. Is that a defense? Is that really a good defense? I shot the sheriff, but I did not shoot the deputy. It was Frank. It should have been like, there should have been the next line. I shot the sheriff, but it didn't shoot the deputy. It was a Mexican. But yeah, oh, I see what he's saying. He's trying to blame like they both got shot. Yeah, but it's almost like a weird defense. Just like I shot the sheriff. Okay, you got me on that. I will. That's great. That's the right. I can't deny it. That's me. That's all me. That's on me. That's on me. Hear me out. Hear me out. You're going to try to pin it on me. But I know I know the deputy's dead. Nothing to do with it. It's nothing to do with the deputy. I mean, I don't think I even saw a deputy there. Sheriff, I shot that motherfucker. Wait, let me Mr. Marley. Let me Mr. Marley. Let me ask you the question again. Well, I'm just a reporter here. So you're claiming you did shoot the sheriff. Yes. Okay. And what about the deputy? Okay, not at all, man. That's not my style. Your style is more what? I go for the big guy. I don't go for the little guy. I'm not going for for a deputy. Now you understand you have the right to remain silent. You don't have to say anything about the sheriff at all. I mean, I think you're literally holding a picture of me next to the sheriff dead. Okay, I'm in my thumbs up like it's a like it's a lion trophy. But the deputy, I don't know what you're talking about. What if we could show that the deputy was shot with the same gun that the sheriff of a shot was you're still going to deny? Yep. Totally. I mean, also keep in mind when this came out in what 1970 they didn't have DNA. So how are you going to find it? Right? How are you going to prove it? You got a bullet? Just a gun bullet. So we played that song. Okay, let's keep going. Wait, I shot the sheriff. That was fun. That was a little impromptu. That was a high point. That's a clip. That's a clip. Clip it, uh, uh, Justin. All right, country, then he goes into acoustics that with country boy, muddy waters cover, then he does the JJ Kales after midnight, then he plays the after midnight. Yes. Slow hand, right? After midnight, but yeah, before 61. Okay, keep going. Then he plays the song that I didn't know before, but I really liked nobody knows you when you're down out. One of my favorites, all time song. I really liked that. And then he goes Layla. I live the life of a millionaire. It's about when you don't have any money. No one cares. Sure. It's a really, oh my God. Sidebar. I saw Alberta Hunter. You don't know who that is. Sing that song live. Keep going. Then he did Layla. Yeah, acoustic and then tears in heaven, but like sped up. So it wasn't good. Then he then he comes back and he does with the full band. He does badge. Wonderful. Tell us to stop her saying badge is a cream song call written by George Harrison. What records it on? Good. Bye cream. Okay. Cream. What if I can horrible name for a band? Now that I know what cream pie means, it's even worse. Yeah, right. Wonderful tonight. He does wonderful tonight. That got all the 50s to 60 year old people in relationship swooning. Then he got did crossroads crossroad blues by. Yeah. So he did this. Then he did the sky is crying. And then he did cocaine. And then he then he closed the show with high time we went at that song. I don't know. But that's a joke. A joker cover with with Jimmy Jimmy Vaughn. I guess it was there too. I received that. I have no idea. Just says with Jimmy Vaughn. No, he was alive. So yeah, he must have come out and played. Let me tell you something. Okay. Let me ask you this. Because it sounds like a phenomenon. What would you want him to play? Would you want white room? I want I want mainline Florida. My God. I want mainline Florida. If he played that, I would have shit myself because that's what made me a fan of air clapped. We did that record. We did. What is it? Something? Whatever. Ocean Avenue or ocean Boulevard? What was that record? You want an ocean? Yes. We did that. And and that's the one I did with Satriani. And that close. The album was good. mainline Florida bent. Oh, he's a God. I get it now. I love that song. Still, I put it in my top 10 favorite songs from doing this podcast. And then but it was just boring, man. I did take mushrooms too. And it just it just didn't just wasn't fun. It really wasn't. I mean, it takes for cheap too, man. I was fucking dead center, you know, maybe like 14, 15 rows back from him for like 150 bucks. So people don't like him. You know what I mean? He's not he's not loved. You know, I think there's like, do you put I mean, that was a question that Adam wrote for me to ask you, which is what is your stance on the air clapping is a prick scale? I mean, obviously that rant on stage is hard to hard to get a bowl, dude. Yeah, it's like it's like, come on. And like, what are you doing, dude? Hard to get over to me. I'm one of those who can divide that stuff. Like to me, it doesn't touch the musical aspect of it. And again, I'm not saying Clapton hasn't kind of repeated himself over and over through the years. I don't know. He's one of the top guitars ever to touch the instrument. So I'm with that. I'm with that. I get that. I get it. And I can, by the way, you're this and I can move on. And yeah, compartmentalized. Yeah, for sure. I'm totally there with you. But I, you know, I think there's a he just the whole COVID thing, all this stuff, man. It's just like, he just seems like a fucking wreck. He create COVID. He in Wuhan. He and Fauci lied and people die. Oh, I see. No, he just I think he died. But I'm pretty sure like he was very anti fucking, you know, the reason was which as many people were, you know, very anti the restrictions. I think you anti mandate. Yeah. Pro Brexit. And he was like, fuck this. And he's just he's just a prick. I was also pro Brexit. Who? Ringo star. Was he really? Yeah. You know, it was also Roger Daltry from the Hill. Like, really? Why? Why were they? Because maybe it's a more nuanced argument than you're making it that's people on one side are pricks and people on the other side are enlightened. Maybe there's more to the story. Maybe. Maybe. So before we get to the final questions and before we do the quick rundown of Wayne stuff, I want to just briefly talk about crossroads. Oh, again, the second out the second album is all live from San Francisco. And they read he redoes the toad drum solo, but does it much longer? And then they become kind of a jam band during this era. They played very 16 minute versions of songs and stuff, but they do a four minute, I don't know, 12 second version of crossroads. The Robert Johnson, who is one of the most influential guitar players ever. Dad at age 27, part of the 27 club, was poisoned by a jealous guy because he was flirting with his girlfriend or his wife. And most importantly, it's part of the crossroads myth that this guy, Robert Johnson went down the crossroads roads and a Faustian bargain sells his soul to the devil to become a great guitar player. So anyway, so I don't know if you ever saw the movie crossroads with what's his name, Ralph Machio. Ralph and you know, who plays the devil in that? You mentioned him earlier on the podcast, Steve Vi. Do you really? Yeah, they do up like a guitar, like whoever wins this, like devil goes down to Georgia kind of like fight. That's what it's about. That's what it's about. It's about the guy selling his soul to the devil. Really? That's like, Oh, I'm going to watch that then. That sounds actually pretty interesting. I just remember Ralph Machio like shredding in it. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty fun. I'm not saying it's a great movie, but the Steve Vi showdown with Ralph Machio and Steve Vi is the devil. It's insane. It's so good. I mean, anyway, you should know about Robert. I'm sure Robert Johnson, King of the Delta Blues singers, is on this list somewhere. Oh, yeah. Probably. I think it's like it's in the top like 100. It is. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure because I just remember my buddy, Greg Shade, who's one of my oldest friends, loves blues, loves Jimmy, and he bought for his birthday or for Christmas. He got the box set, the Robert Johnson complete recordings. Yeah. This is he was like, this is where he was, I was told it was like all the guys that I love love this guy. So I wanted to listen to it. And it's all like, you know, the recordings are all like, you hear that. I know. I know. I've done it. The first ones were done in a hotel in San Antonio, Texas, the Gunter Hotel. And it's like it was just a makeshift. He just had him facing the wall and recording with one mic. It was that. And then he's steady two years later. But anyway, one of the songs he writes is called Crossroads. And it's on that album. And the clapton version of it on wheels of fire is to this day, one of the greatest guitar solo show. This is what happens. He sings first of all, he's on vocals. He sings it. And then you saw it live, obviously you were pruming so you couldn't take it all in. So he sings it, then he does a guitar solo that's a 10 out of 10. Okay. Yeah. And he sings another verse and then comes back for another guitar solo. No shit. That is a gift from God. It's the only description I can have with that solo. That solo beats the first solo, three choruses of it. And underneath it. I mean, the recording is so great. It really is is the Jack Bruce's plane. I don't even know how to describe his bass playing in this song, but it's like playing bass lines and like rhythm guitar on the bass, like super fast things. You think it would be like, okay, this is too busy. Why is he getting in the way of the solo? Why does he just lay back? And you can see they're feeding off of each other. But the second solo in Crossroads that Eric Clapton does cements him as a guitar God for all time, in my opinion, more than what he did with the Yardbirds, more than his little solo and sunshine for your love, more than the wah wah work on White Room. The first solos, if that was just it alone, it would be incredible. Check it out. That's it. And now that's all I can talk. You're the perfect guest for this. You're perfect guest. We're actually every every record that we do. You're the perfect guest. You're just like, you dialed in, you know what the fuck's going on. You're fun. You're you have a bunch of some about killing a share. Oh, God, we're you're you're you're fantastic. So yeah, I mean, this is this is an important record. I'm sorry if we didn't talk, you know, sitting on top of the world was a great song. That's a cover song that they were doing blues covers of Chicago blues. Again, just so we just get the lineage correct. The Delta blues guys, that's obviously Robert Johnson, a bunch of other guys, Sunhouse and Charlie Patton, all of those guys, they create this template. And then muddy waters, howl and well, follow these guys for Eddie King. They go up to Chicago, plug in, create electric blues. The guys in England hear these songs and they're like, Oh, we love it. Yeah, we love the Chicago blues. And but that the Chicago blues roots are Delta blues acoustic guitar. Is this their best record? Wait, do the sound. Do the sound again. Do the sound again. Yeah. Yeah, that's the roots of Chicago blues. Are they? Very good. And you could just see the the the the guy from the record company, like giving him four dollars, you know, of course, the 20 tracks or something like that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Johnson, we appreciate it. I always thought it was funny is like, they, you know, the two things about about blues music is that they take whatever your ailment is, your thing that you are the most you know, self conscious about, they make that your nickname like blind, willy jank or like, you know, like jaundice, jimmy smiles or like rosacea face. Yeah, I remember nagging cough, McGate nagging cough. McGee was incredible. Eggs and brown. Right. What would be another one? Like, darting eyes. Anderson was what a great player. What a great player. Palatosis, Henry. And then I also think it was funny, too, is that like all the blues guys, you just think they're all straight, but you know that there had to have been like a gay blues singer. Oh, that's right. You know, that was like, you know, suck your dick backwards. Put your balls inside my mouth, but down, down, down. And I don't don't suck your dick backwards. My nose inside your ass. That's another great thing about the loose that we never talk about. It's like, do you have to repeat this in the first line the second time again? It's always that. I mean, it's it's a it's a formula. It's literally, but that's why it's great. And I think that's kind of why blues is the blue, because you pop music is a fucking formula. It is not complicated at all. And I know that because I am going to write a number one hit in the Christian market. I have to do a Bob Dylan episode tomorrow that I'm about to record. I'm just. Can I ask which album? Can I ask which album? Modern times. Oh, really? Yeah. And I just don't get it. I still don't get it. And it's because I'm going backwards, I'm listening to his older shit first. And then I'm going back to the good stuff. And maybe when I get to highway 61 revisited and blood on the tracks and all those other great records, I will appreciate this shit. I just don't get every song is seven minutes long. It's it's a story that it gets boring. It's about death. God and Jesus making a pack with a devil. But one of the songs on there is the exact song melody wise, the cadence wise, as when Cartman started a Christian rock band to prove to Kyle that he could make a number one record. He goes if we do Christian rocks, they were in a band together. And it's like, it's literally the same chord progression, the same style. So I'm very excited to play that for the guy tomorrow. Who loves Bob Dylan, by the way. So I just can't have this like my buddy Morty helps me work on the shows. Like not this one, because I knew that like you come in prepared. You're the guy for this. You're the you're the Morty of the episode. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, you're good. Also, can I just thank you for not making me do that Dylan song and letting me do this? Oh my God. No, well, yeah, dude, let's talk about the records you've done. Okay. So we're going to rank them. All right. Steve Miller band fly like an eagle number 445, number 355. Wow, we had a huge break. Yardbirds having a rave up. Yeah, I love it. Then you come back five episodes later for Yardbirds self titled right, right, aka Roger the engineer. Then you come back 39 episodes later, the Sun Records collection. Then you do 20 episodes, a little less than 20 or more, whatever, the velvet undergrounds, white light, white heat, then go into a go go Smoky Robinson, then Crosby stills a Nash self titled at 262. So you go from 293 to 273 to 262 to 245 with Jerry Lee Lewis, all killing a filler anthology. Then this is where you come to quick back to back here. We were proud for the vocal cord surgery. Professor long here in New Orleans, piano, Bobby blue bland two steps from the blues out of all of those records, which is your favorite. Oh, wheels of fire. 205. Yeah. Yeah. This is my favorite of all the ones you've done. Second would be this is the way I live my life. Like I'm very precise. Like there was a compilation album with the Sun Records, right? Yeah, that was tooth does 311. I mean, yes, the compilation is going to be better because there's not going to have have passing that, you know, it's not going to have any bad songs on it. So that would be number two, the Sun Records. Yes, that was Elvis the band, the blind guys. We're Steve Miller band fly its way in there. I would put having a rave up above the Steve Miller band. Okay, I would even put Professor long hair above Steve Miller band. Then I love Professor long hair. I love them. I love them. But maybe not maybe not maybe Steve Miller band above him. I like old music before my time. Like I really so that's a little that's a little bit of a problem for me. Not a problem. What is that a problem? It's like you it's just that's what you that's what you're accustomed to. That's my thing. That's my thing. I really appreciate it. I really appreciate it. Some people like their testicles stepped on. That's the only way they can come. And I mean, you know, it's like that's just people have their case. It's a very sexual episode. Sorry. What's going on? Is there anything you have? I have a butt plug in as we speak. It's my thing now. It's pride out here, dude. Actually, it's like it's so gay outside right now. This is the last day of pride. This is the last day. And this is and dude, New York's about to have their big pride day. Oh, really? It's crazily. It's like the cops are fucking, you know, prancing their dancing to the schmancing. Yeah. It's very it's a gay old time. All right. Let's do the final things. I gotta eat lunch. It's you gotta get out of here. Yeah. It's already what is a one 27. We did this. This was great, though. You're going to come back soon anyway. All right. Favorite song on this record? What do we got? White Room. Okay. Lee's favorite song on this record. Oh my god. I don't know. One of those, like, as you said, or one of the, you know, just there's like three of them that are passing the time. Yeah. I just I go over those all the time. I don't like to say the least favorite, but it's one of those that's not not a blues cover and not way room. Can you fuck to this? It will certainly born under a bad sign. You can. That's literally the right room to that. Yeah. I think, I think, I think white room into sitting on top of the woods. Very, there's sexy songs like white music. Oh, you know, it's also I also what I say is the sexy song is politician. In fact, the first line is come a little girl. Step into my car. It's like it's a very sexual, salty kind of thing. Really good. Really good. Let me go politician over born under a bad sign for the songs that you could make out to for play. I don't like to use. Sure. Sure. I know you're very you're very G rated. You're the G rated comic. There's nothing wrong with that. Last but not least, what's your pitch to get someone to listen to this? Oh, that's a good your summarization of this whole record. Well, if you're if you in any way enjoy electric guitar music and there's some people that don't. There's some people that load like just like electric guitar is like an addendum to the song like a little like a little solo like like George Harrison would do like a little like a beautiful little solo in the middle of it, but the lyrics and the melody of the song into my thing. But if you're a guitar hero guy, this is a must listen to album, particularly just for two songs, forget the blues covers that they do so perfectly would be crossroads because you can see the absolute virtuosity and next world level guitar playing of Eric Clapton and then White Room, which sums up the band perfectly because it's written by Jack Bruce and his buddy Jack Bruce is on vocals and Eric Clapton's Wawaw pedal work is just thrilling and it's a really cool fun song just to to listen to. So it's just those two songs I would say. That's my pitch. I can say this if if you've never heard, if you want to know why everybody loves Clapton, this is one of the things that you got to go to. You got to listen to this. You got to listen to this. I feel it's this is kind of like the early stages of heavy metal hard rock heavy metal. Yeah, but but and that's I think that's why I'm attracted to it. Also, there's a slight underlying racism that I just love. I just love I can tell them they all it's infectious infectious. They all probably just were like, you know, it's asia. He's like, just sort of to get food. It's like down the street. He's like, I'm not going to that tacky place. And I was in recommend that one, Eric. But it is amazing to this day that the whitest guys on the planet, the English, were so attracted to the like the blackest African American music, which was still losing. And again, what happens today do with like rich white kids in DC love, you know, the most hardcore hip-hop. It doesn't make a difference. It's like it's it's almost because they're so white and these people are so blues is so black. It's so black. It's and that's not a bad thing. That's that's not an insult. Same reason why I hate white people making reggae music, because reggae was a way for these black artists that are living in a third world country to deal with the discrimination, the hardships of no money, the government being shitty, whatever the fuck it was. And all the people that made white reggae are from Orange County, California. So like, I don't know, it's like pumpkin spice latte for only three months a year is unfair, like. Right, right. Of course, it is an interesting dynamic though. You will admit that like, yeah, and and I will say I do feel like these English guys nail it. They really play the blues very well. Again, I know people are like, it's not authentic and I can't, but I love it. I do too. I do too. I'm excited to listen to the next record. Actually, we actually have coming up John made that one. Yeah, we have that coming up. So you might be doing that one, brother. Stay loose. What do you got the pitch? You got anything you want to promote? Now just my book, The History of Stand Up Comedy from Mark Twain to Dave Chappelle. I'm ordering that right now on Amazon. I'm going to order that right now. I want that in my arsenal and I don't want to, and I want to pay for it. So you get the, I don't even know if you get anything from it. Probably get you. All right. Should I, should I not? You want to give me one? Yeah, I'll give you one. Yeah. Okay. You give me one? Sign it. Done. Yeah. That's which, yeah. Twitchee. I, Federman, blues player. I love, I love you. Slightly, um, no, it would be even more subtle. It would be like, uh, to, uh, self-aware Federman to, I'm trying to think like, like the worst parts of my personality, uh, self-conscious comedy from Wayne Federman can't be in the moment, cannot be in the moment. Through it in the head, Federman, yo, his guy kills it. All right. Well, thank you for having me. My pleasure, buddy. 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