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But we've already got some smoke and some fire on both sides of town. Cubs, and of course the White Sox, trading off more of their assets. So the White Sox made a three-team, seven-player deal yesterday afternoon. Copac to the Dodgers, fam and fettie, to the Cardinals, who somehow someway added a starting pitcher who's gonna be so young, but he's solid. And Tommy Pham, who's a very average bat. 102-weighted runs created plus 100 is league average. So basically an average hitter who did not have a gig until April when the Sox signed him out of his house. Didn't even go to spring trading. And then Copac to the Dodgers and the Sox get back three prospects. I think one came into the White Sox system. It was slotted now at 14. Another one at 15 and another one who's injured. Here's a stress reaction I think in his tibia. He's out for the year. Boy, I hope your doctors are accurate that he's going to recover from such an injury. Doesn't sound good, but I assume their doctors have signed off on it. So the big question is, Chris gets in over his head in this gig because I would have thought, again, I don't think you gave up as much in the deal as others do. This team's 27 and what, what are they, 27 and 83 now? After one of the most ridiculous losses I've seen. - I'm gonna need you to stop chuckling. - Go ahead. - I won money. Sorry. I took your advice. Good night, Mindy. That was it. - Well. - He texts me good night, Mindy. Every time a White Sox bet he makes catches. So she went up the stairs. I said, good night, Mindy. When Bobby Whit Jr. went deep into the guaranteed rate night. Again, Copac is one of the biggest disappointments in White Sox history. He came in, you remember Peter Gammons on this station said he's gonna win multiple Cy Youngs? No. He's very pedestrian. Throw's hard, but for whatever reason, it's never worked out. We'll see if Mark Pryor, the pitchy coach and Ellie can fix him. That's one. Tommy Fama just said, very average player. But Eric Fettie, you would have thought who will go into the Cardinal rotation. And he's pretty solid. He's not spectacular. He was in Korea a year ago for a reason. He would have thought they could have got more for him. And then Chris, he didn't lose his cool, but he was very direct how disappointed he is in Gary Crochet. And I said yesterday, you may disagree, hoodie. I would love your perspective. I said to Nick and to Shay and to Jay Moore, this is business man. Gary Crochet makes $800,000 this year. Gary Crochet is one of the top 10 pitchers in the sport. He's got a family to think about and his life to think about. He blows out again, and as another Tommy John, he's not getting a payday. You want me to pitch for you when I've gone way above my innings limit? Guess what? I'm getting paid or I'm shutting it down. He's right. - As a white Sox fan cap, I understand that this rebuild will take a long time to build. When I first told you that these Sox would not be a contender this decade, you looked at me and thought I was doing a bit. Or ribbing you. - I did. - It's not a rib cap. - It's not. But there's certain reasons why I'm not joking with you and Sox fans when I say that the white Sox are not going to win this decade. And it will be into the next decade for the Sox to even think about contending or trying to contend. You see, when you are bereft of minor league talent, when you are bereft of Major League Baseball talent, when you don't have a manager in place, when you don't have a style of play, when you have an owner that won't spend like, you see a Clark and Addison. And when you have a general manager that is in his first years at the job, you have to understand until the Sox can master these facets, the Sox will be looking up at everybody else. That trade yesterday in which Eric Fettie goes and Tommy Pham, God bless him. He got himself in a position where he can be traded. He was complaining on the AJ Przinski podcast that there was no movement. There was no communication about where he's going to go. And now he's gone to the Cardinals. And Cash, by the way, love the cash considerations because God knows the Sox need money. And then Michael Copec, now with the Dodgers. You know what he's become? Not a closer, not a starter for the Dodgers. A good seventh inning guy. That's what he's going to be, Cap. Not a closer, he's a seventh inning guy, something safe. Get your six innings in from your starter. Here you go, Michael, can I get three outs? Okay, you can leave now, because anything more than that, we know that you can't handle the pressure. We already saw that with the White Sox. So he'd be a nice seventh inning guy, nice little piece for the Dodgers. What the Sox received in Miguel Vargas. Let me ask you a question. Miguel Vargas, Dodgers, right? Miguel Vargas is a guy that is an every man. He could play first, second, and third for you. He could play the outfield. Cap, if he's no longer in the Dodgers in the vaunted Dodgers organization in the system, then what's wrong with Miguel Vargas? If he's expendable with the Dodgers, then what's the problem? It's the dance, be squats in question. It's a Jeff Blouser question. If the Atlanta Braves can't use you, then what's wrong with you? Same thing with Vargas. He's a placeholder, Cap. Understand that that tender foot at 35th and Vek and Chris gets, he's learning on the job too. So don't think that he was gonna come in there and be like, oh, I'm gonna pull up my big boy pants now. I'm gonna fleece the Dodgers in the car. I'm gonna get in there. I'm gonna get the best prospects. Cap, he doesn't know either. It's like the manager doesn't know. Everyone's young and everyone's inexperienced at the job. Did you think he was gonna be Trader Jack today or yesterday with those deals? No. So I didn't expect a lot. I knew that the Sox were gonna get rid of some players. There's no question about that. And he got to take a step further. It's Robert in crochet too. Because Cap, everyone is learning at the same plane. We talked about this with the Bears. You recall this, right? The polls, Eberflues, everyone learning at the same plane where it's like, year after year, you get better and better, you get more and more experience. Chris gets a meal fight at the position. People said, oh, he got fleas, he got fleas. Well, what do you expect? It's Chris gets kind of pretty much strong going into the position. No more Kenny, no more Rick. Could you please help me, Chris, if you're Jerry Reiser, because I don't wanna learn anyone else new. So if he was kind of average, as far as handling the minor league system, what do you expect on the major league system? What do you expect? He has to learn at the job. So if people think that the Sox got less than because you got a number 23 prospect and number 17 prospect, well, no whoop. No surprise. They're not going anywhere anyway. Those players and Vargas, those are placeholders for the next decade. That's all it is. So that's where they're going right now. You don't have the major league talent, you don't have the minor league talent, you don't have a manager, you don't have a style of play, you don't have money, you don't have a GM. That's why the Sox are in this position. That's why they're gonna make history. That's why they're gonna lose over 110 games this year. It's because there's no hope right now. None. So I mean, you gotta keep going here with crochet and Robert and just keep going. They gotta continue to keep doing this because you're not winning with them. So why are they on the ball club? - Fair. - Fair. I asked somebody, Paul D. Young, can they get any for him and the guy left? In the game, he said, Paul D. Young, for what? You think a contending team's playing him every day? No, and he strikes out far too much to be a guy who's taken one of your bench spots. He's pretty much wedded to one position. - Yeah. - And he's not great at that. So they said, there's less than zero interest. I said, brevia, he goes, brevia, you giving him the ball at high leverage into playoffs? - I'm not. Okay, I got it. - In the old days, you would have traded for a guy like that because he'd be on your bench, plug him in there for defense and be a pinch hitter, if you need it, right? They don't do that anymore. In the old days, you could have used a guy like him, like a D. Young, on your roster for the playoff push, for your 40-man roster. So, but just understand the point, Cap. All the inexperiences there. So when people say, oh my God, I can't believe it. Well, you know what? It's fine because they're going anywhere anyway. I've been asking this question a lot on the show. So what's your building block? Yeah, start someplace. Where do you start? - They have nobody. Nobody. When crochet's gone and when Robert's gone, they don't have anybody. They're going to clear the decks and for what? They're not going to contend. They're going to be looking up at everybody for a while here. 2032, Cap. That's what we're shooting for. - So you have on your board there still, I'm sure. Or Jay Morton put it back up there. When I talked to Jim Bowden last week and I asked him, you sitting on my shoulder as I did the interview, Jim, what about the White Sox? When will they contend? And what did he say? - He said 2031, 2032, he said, minimum seven or eight years. - Yeah? - Seven or eight years. That's a GM saying that. - And what did I say? You just think it just fanned him for me. - Right. - It's not fandom. It's not because look at where the organization is. And here's the other thing, Cap. This is the same organization before gets got the job as GM. That was poor in developing and drafting for all the great Joe Credes and the Frank Thomas's and the Ray Durham's and the Bobby Thigpens and the Robin Ventura's. What do you get for it now? The Madrigals, the Andrew Vaughn's, the Carson Fulmers. Bobby Whit Jr. went second in the draft. - The Lance Broadway's. - Who? - That's the point, Cap. Like for all the stuff that you used to see in the past when the Sox were sound when it came to drafting and developing, what about now? Tell me about that development now, go ahead. Tell me about the Sox development. - Not good. - That's the point. - Crochet, that was good development. - Tim Anderson, sure. The sales, but those few and far in between. And that's my point. - Different administration too. - Yeah. So, Jim Bowden, you know, talking about the Sox. - I wrote an article on this at the Athletic yesterday saying that they needed to trade Garrett Crochet. And it's painful to say that because one of the things that you want as a GM is to build a team around an ace, a 27 year old lefty that can win a Cy Young Award. But here's the problem with the new CBA. You can't tank and get the first pick. You can't go get Chris Bryant like the Cubs did or Bryce Harper and Stephen Strasburg like the Nationals did or Carlos Correa like Houston did or Adley Rutchman like Baltimore did. You can't do that. In fact, the White Sox are gonna finish with an historic bad record. - And pick that. - They're gonna pick tank. They're gonna pick tank. You're not gonna get the superstar there. So the only way you're gonna get that is a trade crochet. And if you trade crochet, it's not the four or five guys that you're getting back. It's that top star that you're gonna get back that's playing in A ball or double A that's got a chance to be that number one overall pick. And you're not gonna trade him unless Baltimore says, "I'll give you Samuel Bassio or I'll give you Jackson Holiday." That's where crochet's gotta go. You can't trade crochet into trade crochet, but if you get that number one pick that you can build around plus other pieces. For example, if the Orioles were to offer the White Sox, Heston cursed that, who you could put in right field, Kobe Mayo could play third and Bassio could catch. There's three everyday players. You've just rebuilt your team in one trade. That's what you gotta try to do here because you're picking 10. So that's why they have to trade him. I think Chris Ketch is going about the right way. He's telling my GM friends, "I'll trade everybody on the Major League roster." Make proposals to me, bring them to me. I'm gonna look at them. I don't have to trade anybody, but I'm building for the future. And the best way to do it is to trade players, trade my assets. So there I am. You could trade them, but what are you getting back in return? And how do you start planning those seeds to say this is gonna be the next generation of White Sox baseball? Who is that? That's the problem. So I brought up the trade grades from CBS. I figured I'll just look somebody different than ESPN. Dodgers grade A, Cardinals grade A, White Sox grade D. Give Chris get some credit. Yes, he's the architect at the most dreadful team, MLB has seen in decades, but he nailed the FETI signing. Did he do the same with the FETI trade? Eh, we're not so sure about that. I like the Sox fan that was at guaranteed rate that had the T-shirt with the gets quote on it. I don't like our team. Guess what? I don't either. And I don't like the way the direction it's going in. But this is who they are right now. Speaking of the organization, Chris gets got to come to Jesus moment, huh? Face to face with Gary Crochet, what's going to happen? Who's going to blink first? We'll hear from Chris gets coming up next. Captain J. Hood, week's day, morning seven to 10. OK, it's about that time. You're tuned in to the Captain J. Hood show. Everything ain't hardcore, you know you know you know you. On Chicago's home for sports, ESPN, Chicago. It's a Captain J. Hood morning show. On ESPN 1000, we are streaming on the ESPN, Chicago app. Glad to have you in here on this Tuesday. We're going to go to Paris, France, Cap and I, and the Cap and J. Hood nation will go to Paris, France. Come up at 750, we'll find out what's going on in Paris from Alex Marigos from NBC 5, Chicago, who is stationed there providing reports. He's the best. I love Alex Marigos. No, his parents, well he's just a rising star. And he reached out for Paris, want to come on? Let's do it. Let's find out what's going on in Paris. The sights and sounds of the Olympics for 2024. Have you ever been to Paris? I have not. Paris is awesome. Super cool, super cool city, super cool. I wouldn't want to be there for the Olympics, a little too crowded. But when I was there, just as a normal like tourist, that was super cool. Citizen. It's a normal place. Citizen. It's a normal citizen. Yeah, just as a tourist. Yeah, just as a American visiting. It was super cool. So this man here, Cap, Chris gets the General Manager of the Chicago White Sox. Is it a pickle? Because he's trying to figure out who can be the partner he can work with to trade Gary Crochet, the left hander. I was surprised to see him Sunday against Seattle, quite frankly. But he was out there, and I think that'll be all for a crochet in a White Sox uniform. I know that there are listeners of ours that say, hey, do you have to trade him? Why do you have to trade him? Because we've been through this before. Now we went through the names last week, Cap, the Lopez's, and the Ceasas, and the sales, and how they were going to Florida someplace else. Well, keep in mind, if you sign crochet, if you came up with a deal, he'd be part of the losing. He'd be the face of the losing. That's why he has to go. So Sylvie said yesterday with Tommy, he doesn't understand why you can't build around crochet, 25 year old, top of the rotation starter. And you know, a week ago before I talked to Jim Bowden, I was right there with them. Why can't you sign this guy? Open up the-- let the moths fly out of the wallet and give them whatever it is, five for 125, or whatever the numbers are. And after talking to Jim, he said, you can't keep him under any scenario. I said, why? Because by the time you're ready to win, he will be in his 30s. There's nothing in the system where you go, oh, there's this guy, there's Correa, and there's-- what's his name? Alex Bregman, and Al Tuvet, and Jordan Alvarez, and this guy, and Fran Berman, none of it. He said, there is no scenario. I don't care if Jerry opened up the vault and said, how much in? You cannot keep him. He's the best trade ship you have. OK, to your point. Bob Nightingale just tweeted this. The Chicago White Sox believe that starter Garrett Crochet likely will be moved today. But that center fielder Luis Robert Jr., who has drawn little interest, will be staying. To the Sox fan listening, or the baseball fan listening, they're saying, well, I don't understand. How come you can't be able to kind of build this thing in three years, because things move slowly at 35th and Vek. That's why you're not going to pay him the money that I think that he could be owed. I mean, any other franchise would say, yeah, we got to pay Eurocrochet because this guy could really be a cornerstone for our franchise. Not the White Sox. Oh, no, no, no. No, no, that's not how they do business over there, Cap. So why have him on the ball club when you're not going to be a serious contender until you get into the 2030s? Correct. That's the point. Yeah. Now, if Steve Cohen bought the White Sox today and said, here you go, there's my bank books. Take anything you need out of my $40 billion net worth, well, that's different because you could go out and sign, Juan Soto, and Santander, and get this guy, Breggman, and whoever else, and go, all right, we're back. And at least you're a contender, you're competitive. Not the Sox, though. They're not going to do that. No, and that's why. And I understand why people would say why, but we just laid out why. Because they move slowly over there. Correct. So that's the whole thing. And by the way, if you had some kids, Cap, if you had some young players, you go, you sprinkle these guys in, and two or three years we're right back in the mix again, you're not. That's the point. You are not. And for anybody over there that thinks that's a joke, just watch what happens. Watch what happens. Chris gets the general manager for the Chicago White Sox talking about crochet, and how crochet's representative has affected the market. The communication had been very strong between Garrett and I and his agency. And I was a little surprised and taken back by how they went about it. And considering that I had a conversation with his agent the night before, I didn't-- that's not exactly the tactic that I would have taken. Even being a former player, quite honestly. Just because the dialogue had been so honest, and real, and careful, and mindful of his career, because I've known him since we got him. So I was a little surprised by it. I was. I think most people, most fans, and even players, without knowing everything, it makes sense. I think we understand why a stance would be taken like that. Now, how you go about expressing that is what was a bit hurtful, quite honestly. Considering I felt like we could have handled it a little bit differently, and still, I think, everyone accomplished what they wanted to accomplish. So you know, Garrett's a very talented arm, and he's just getting his starting career going. And he's looking out for his long-term well-being. We fully understand and support that, and we'll continue to do so. But the belief that we didn't have his best intentions in mind, I think, was what I was a little surprised by how it was handled. But Garrett and I are fine. We are good. I'll continue to be one of his top supporters, and in regards to how it affects the coming days. Yeah, ain't no fun when the rabbits got the gun, Chris gets. Ain't no fun because the idea that the player and the representative are saying, hey, we're going to play hardball here. And again, it's their demands. Point is, though, is that Chris has taken it back. I'm surprised he said as much as he did, by the way. I didn't know Rick Hahn was still in the organization. OK, let me ask you a question. That was pretty gl-- that was pretty forthcoming, wasn't it? It was. Yeah. Do you agree with crochet, Sam? You want me to go pick somewhere else to go? I've already doubled my career high in innings. You want me to go all the way through to October and put my health at risk? You're extending me, or I'm not doing it. I support him. I support the player. And did you hear Paul D. Young after the game? 100% supports Garrett Crochet. It's a business. This is a business. Chris says that as a player, I wouldn't have done that. Well, Chris, I saw you play. You're a crochet, just be honest. He was a utility man. Just be honest. All right, so he says I would have done that. Well, you are not a position to do that. He's speaking with an-- and I like Chris. Good guy. Yes. He's speaking with an agenda. I understand. The agenda is the White Sox. And he's trying to rebuild this thing as best he can without getting the benefit of a checkbook. Here's Paul D. Young. I think what he said about his demands is fair for a person in his situation who hasn't done a lot of innings. He's trying to protect his health in his career. And we support him. Yeah, we support him. I mean, the ball club. Correct. I'm on his teammates. The player. And Shea said to me, yes, we were debating this. We had a good debate where I think Mookie Betts and Freddie-- they got their money. And they were 100% support Garrett Crochet. Because they all know it's a business, man. That's it. Maybe. But who do you the point I made is like Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman played through arbitration in the playoffs with their teams and waited for free agency. Like Freddie Freeman waited for free agency to get his money in LA. Mookie Betts got traded after winning an MVP and a World Series in Boston because they didn't want to pay him the arbitration money. These guys went through what Crochet is going through right now and played in playoff games doing it. I have a hard time buying this. Crochet is going to go to another clubhouse. And everybody's just going to be like, yeah, dude, sit it out. All good with us. They are. Because not one of those guys is going to ride up when he blows his elbow out in October and go, here's 10 million to take that. Right. But my point is, did all those guys not assume the same risk when they were prior to free agency, when they were working through their years of service? Well, let's just look at Mookie Betts. Because I guarantee you he got more money to Garrett Crochet. Guaranteed. And I'll say, did he want an MVP? And was in an RB year? It was like a $24 million arbitration. What do you think Crochet is going to get an arbitration? It's not going to be $800,000. Well, Shane, not to necessarily get into Crochet's feelings. But I would imagine for a guy that came off of Tommy John, he's just trying to get the bag up front as quickly as possible. Because I don't know if you feel something that arm. It's not like he's been throwing a million innings this year. But it's almost like, you know what? I know it was like to try to battle back. I need to bag up front. I need some assurances. Because even though I'm a lefty and I have a rubber arm, I can get hurt again. It might be a confidence thing, too. But also just making sure that the bag is secured. Yeah, and to be clear, I'm not saying he's wrong to ask for it. You're never wrong to ask. Like, this is the only leverage a player has. And we've never really seen a player use this as leverage. I'm not going to play for you in the postseason unless you extend me. It's not really ever been done. I'm just saying, whatever clubhouse he goes to, I think you're wrong if you think it's just going to be rosy when he walks in and he's not pitching in the playoffs. They'll put all the heat on the team. We want that guy. Pay him his money. It's a business. When Mookie Betz was traded, he had already made $30 million from the Red Sox. Yeah, $30. 24 of that was in one year when he got an ARB deal after winning MVP. Crochet could win a Cy Young. Crochet could-- he's going to be one of the best pitchers in the American League if he stays in the American League. Mookie Betz made $10.5 million. Then he made $20 million. Then he made $27.5 million. So sorry, he had already made over $50 million. Was the $27.5 million because the final year of that deal was in LA, and then he got extended. 2020, he agreed to arbitration with the Boston Red Sox for an average salary of $27 million. And then he signed a monster deal with a bunch of deferred money with the Dodgers where he signed for-- I don't even remember how big the deal was. It was a monster. It was $365 million. What are we talking about? This guy's making $800 grand. Good for him, man. Don't pitch till they pay you. It's a business. This isn't little league for crying out loud. I said he's right to ask for it, didn't I? Yeah, you did. I don't think it's going to be a rosy atmosphere in a clubhouse that's trying to win a World Series. If he tells him I'm not going to pitch. And it will all be the heat on the team, not on him. His teammates all will support him 100%. Because they all got their bag. The one thing we have to know, again, it's a union. It's a player's union. The player's unit, what are they for? Get as much of the bag as you can. 100% well said. Because it's always players versus owners. It's just the way it is. And just so just why that's why you have a veteran like Paul the young that's going to back crochet. It's not one of those things like, oh, this guy won't pitch for us. No, they are going to tell the organization, if it's a Dodgers, take care of them. This is a guy here that could be with us long term. Well, I-- Whatever team he's going to be sent to. CAA is based out there. Sure. They have offices everywhere, but they're based out there. I guarantee you they have made it clear to Andrew Friedman. He's in. He wants to come. We're getting a deal done. And he will get some type of, whether they keep it quiet, we're not going to do it, not-- here's the handshake. He's going to have his money guaranteed. Especially if it's the Dodgers. They will do it. 100%. Don't take care of it. 100%. The Dodgers will, but also on the topic of the union, the union collectively bargained the arbitration and the arbitration's performance based. So my point again, crochet is not going to be making 800,000 next year when he settles arbitration based on performance this year. He's going to be making 10 to 15 million. There's a big difference, 10 to 15 in getting a five-year extension like time goes up. I'm not denying that. I'm just-- all of these players that we're talking about went through that process. All of them. I'm Gary Crochet. I'm doing the same damn thing. And I think, again, I understand Chris has an agenda to fix the white side. That's his job. Gary Crochet is correct. This is a businessman. You want me to put my health at risk? My family's future at risk for you. And you've got billions of dollars in TV money, let alone everything else. Pay me my money. Price went up. Yesterday's price is not today's price. Caleb Williams was taken aback by a question by the press yesterday. Did you miss it? We'll hear it next. On the home of the Bears in the White Sox, ESB in 1,000. Checkmate, 16 million suppression on target. That's why see him in a shot. Or no shot with Captain J. Hood on ESB in 1,000 and ESB in Chicago app. That's why see him in a shot. Good morning, and welcome in to the Captain J. Hood Morning Show on ESB in 1,000. And streaming on the ESB in Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. Now time for a shot or no shot brought to you by. That'd be ESB in back now live in Illinois. Sign up today, new users get $100 in bonus bets with any sports book. We say good morning, this is J.W. Northern. Good morning, boys. On Tuesday, how are we feeling? Hoodie, welcome back. Thank you very much. I'd like to take time out here in the Sombra moment to talk about a loss in my family. And if you don't mind, Shay, I'd just like to send a shout out to something that I've had in my family for a long time that's no longer with us. 22 years of great service. And my alarm clock, stop working. That'll be all for my alarm clock. So rest in peace, West Clock. You'll be in the garbage when I come home. For the first time in 22 years, the alarm, not going off, woke up a little later than normal. And I appreciate all the times, the wacky schedules, the ups and downs, you know, mornings, and had to work overnight. And it was always there for me. But for the first time in 22 years of service, I gained the job done. So shout out to my clock, a valued family member for many, many years in the hood household, no longer with us. OK, it's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. What do you mean? You have an iPhone. Yeah? What's that mean? Alarm on it. Yeah, I know, it's my backup. But nonetheless, I'd like to be able to just tell Alexa, wake me up and play Prince when they wake you up. And Alexa will wake you up with a Prince song of your choosing. You making fun of the dead. That's pretty on-brand cap. Nonetheless, I would like to be able to just send a shout out to my longtime alarm clock. 22 years of service, Jay Moore, and that'll be all. So thank you very much. There will be a service taking place, the home, later on today. I think the wake 6 o'clock, Jay Moore, if you want to stop by, the wake 6 o'clock funeral 7/3. Jay Moore, don't waste your time. No, he's my friend. He'll be there. He won't be, because you don't care. No, it's fine. That's why I have other friends here on the show. Jay Moore, again, 6 o'clock. There'll be a repast afterwards. Do you have a best friend at work? At 8 o'clock. No. At 8 o'clock. So there you have it. So, Shea, tough times in the home. Very tough. But we're going to get through today. We're going to get through the show today, despite the untimely passing of my timepiece. Just how are we done here? Pop a napkin over it or something. Hit it with a hammer. And already, it looks like it's a rush. The way it worked is it seemed like it was hit by a hammer. That's been around for a long time. All right, Shea, what do you have? All right, Pro Football Focus ranked the top 10 offensive coordinators. And stop me if you've heard this recently. The Bears offensive coordinator made the cut. PFF ranked Shane Waldron as the sixth best offensive coordinator in all of football after resurrecting Geno Smith in Seattle, despite some offensive line woes and some problems last year. Two career years for Geno Smith under Shane Waldron puts him in the top 10 at PFF. That adds on to the expectations with the receivers, with Caleb Williams, with a retooled offensive line, a new running back room, shot or no shot, with all the expectations around this offense, the Bears need to be a top 10 unit. Need is a tough word. Need to be, would like for them to be. Need? What do you think? Um, look, do I think they'll be top 10? If they're top 10, with the way their defense is, that team has a chance to win the NFC. I'm thinking they're like top 15. The offense? With a rookie QB, a rookie wide out, still some issues on the offensive line, Nate Davis is sidelined again. And even Eber Flus, who's holding guys accountable. I told you that. He's out there going availability. It was a direct shot at Nate Davis. Direct shot. No, they don't need to be top 10. They need to be top 15. Offensively. Yes. So you don't mind the 26 touchdowns and 12 interception, 3,700 yards. You're good with that, right? As a baseline for Caleb Williams? I would like more than that. I know that's, that's Sports Illustrated who projected that. If he gets more than that, they're a top 10 offense. Yes. Maybe? OK. That'd be great. Yes. If he's crossing 4,000 and 30, they're a top 10. Where was Houston's offense ranked last year? What was a car? You know? You looked at it, boys. Tell me where they were. Because that was the conversation last week talking about, and it was, and it was spilled over to The Wall and Sylvie Show, because it was a poll question that Silly put out. It's 2012 and 3,700 yards. Would you say that's a successful first year for Caleb Williams? And 95% of the people that voted said, yeah. Houston's offense ranked 11th by yards. But keep in mind, Stroud only had 23 touchdowns. So if you're asking for 30 from Caleb? Well, he also threw for 4,300 plus yards. Yeah, but you don't get points off those. So if you're asking for 30 from Caleb in 4,000, you're going to end up being a top 10 offense. Great. Yeah, and it need to be. I would like for them to be. That would be nice to see. But 26 and 12 and 3,700 yards for a rookie quarterback is progress with this offense. It definitely is progress and a lot to build on. You're not going to get all your cake in year one. You're just not. You're not going to get it all in year one. But I think moving forward, as he learns, as Waldron learns, as the offensive line, everyone else learns offensively, it's going to get better. What was starting today? What was MT-10, Mitch Trabisky in his first year as a starter? Oh, look that up, boys. Would you look that up, boys? Please, please. He was 24 and 12 with 3,200 yards. Pass a rating of 95. So all right. Shane Orley. All right, well, no, Mitch in his rookie year was 7 and 7. You're looking at his first year. No, I said his first full year as a starter. First full year as a starter was 2018. They went 12 and 4. Darnell Wright had a solid rookie season attack last year, but camp so far, based on some reports, has left a bit to be desired. So far, the reports that Darnell Wright has been unable to block Montez sweat. I don't think that's a death sentence. Blocking Montez sweat is a very difficult thing to do. But you do expect a little more out of a tackle. Now it is second year that you used a top 10 pick in the draft on shot or no shot. There is zero reason for concern with Darnell Wright. Look, if he's blocking Montez sweat, then you know what first take Shay's question would be? We should be concerned about Montez sweat because a second year right tackle is handling him. Montez sweat's one of the best pass rushers in football. He got a hundred million dollar deal because he's that freakin' good. Unless you tell me Darnell Wright's on his back every day getting crushed, steamrolled. If he's struggling with Montez sweat, guess what, that's part of the deal. - Yeah, that's a no shot. There is no concern about that matchup. Montez sweat is elite at his position. Darnell Wright's learning. - Iron sharp and iron, if you like to say. - No question. - And so that's why, and Shay, you know how this works, right? When you're a coach, you see both sides of it. He's like, oh, Montez is ready. Darnell Wright, well, he's giving a learning experience, right? He's going to school, taking on Montez sweat. And so the hope is, is that in the regular season, Darnell Wright realized like, okay, Montez sweat is pretty tough. When I go into my matchups, I realize what I gotta do to hold off defenders. Like Montez sweat's at the top, one of the tops. So it's going to happen. I got, what I'm saying is, as a coach, I wonder what the offensive line coach thinks. Does he just shrug his shoulders like, well, that's Montez sweat. What are you going to do, right? What are you going to do? - Right. - He's that good, Shay. - All right, I am angry about the Eric Fettie trade yesterday. When it went down, I looked at it as bizarre with the Dodgers effectively paying the freight for the Cardinals to acquire Fettie and fam. And the Dodgers just took on Tommy Edmund, who hasn't played this season. Fettie is on pace for like a seven-war season. At baseball reference, it would place him among the best in baseball this year. He's currently second in the American League and wins above replacement among all pitchers. 3-1-1 ERA, he's got a seven and four record on the worst team in baseball. Got traded in a package with two other players for two prospects and an MLBer. Neither prospect ranked in the top 15 of the Dodgers system. I just thought it was odd and a little light. And then, late last night, you say kuchi, a pitcher who stinks and has a .2 war and a 4-7-5 ERA gets moved for three prospects, two of them in the top 15 of Houston system. And I look at this and go, Chris gets did a bad job. Shot or no shot, the rest of the league looked at an inexperienced Chris gets like a pinata. That's a shot, that's a shot. And I know that sounds harsh, but again, look at what former general manager Jim Bowden said. Look at the facts of what the Sox were able to get back. What I would have liked to see a top 10 prospect shore cap, but here's the thing, you can get top 10 prospects, but who are they gonna be in five years on this franchise with this team? Who are they gonna be? And by the way, if they're good, will you pay them when its contract time comes around? If the same ownership is in place, no. Man, it's just a question. If they had not drafted Andrew Vaughn 3rd and they had drafted Bobby Whit Jr. 2nd, who went right in front of him, Bobby Whit got 285 million by the Royals. Before the season, they called the press conference and the owner said, "That's the face of our franchise. "We're locking him up." He got like 10 years. Do you think the White Sox would have done that? No chance. Nope. Now here's the thing, this is not the whole, he'd be a boob with a Sox cap on. He would not be. Bobby Whit Jr. would be a really good player for the White Sox, no question. But when it comes to nut cutting time, contract time, he wouldn't get, he wouldn't get the money. He would not. Correct. Unfortunately. Correct. They would try and get, we'll give you a 40 million and see if we can lock you up for five years. No, not gonna happen. I just went bad way to do business, man. Just wish that the organization, the baseball side of the organization, would be on par with the amenities and the bread and the circuses and the good time at guaranteed rate. If that can match up boy, you'd have hell of a franchise. That's the problem. No question. I wish the food and the good times there and the people that work there hard, busting your ass for the White Sox, would be on the same par, I wish the ball club was on the same par as them. Well said. You're correct. It's just not, it's not restaurant quality. You are correct. It just isn't. Shay, can you squeeze in one more? Yeah, we got some reports this morning, Bob Nightingale, first Jesse Rogers also got in on this texting me. He believes it as well. Garrett Crochet, the White Sox expect will be moved today. Jesse said he thinks Crochet will be moved. The Padres, the Dodgers, the Braves, all intrigued by Crochet. Shot or no shot. This time tomorrow, Garrett Crochet will not be a White Sox. That's a shot. Come on, Jesse. That's a shot. It's everything that we read. That's a good take, Jesse. Take that, Craig. If Nightingale said it, it must be true. Yeah, by name of my White Sox information, that's where I go first. He's just tapped in on the White Sox as Jerry is. So it will happen. If Nightingale said it, then it's gonna happen. Yep, agreed. He'll be gone. And Luis Robert, not so much. It's weird, Shay, I just went to the White Sox page on ESPN.com and it got Bitpoint to Fender. You wanna let me in? Oh boy, well. That's strange. Yeah, that whole Bitpoint to Fender thing. That's a segment in and of itself. I mean, my God. I tried to click on the Sun Times one morning. Bitpoint to Fender has blocked you. What? Clearly, the White Sox page on ESPN.com makes the computer sick. Well, honestly, hoodie, you might be spared not going to that page. You won't have to see that the White Sox trade Crochet for Albert Pujol's birth certificate. [LAUGHING] These teams, I'm telling you, if they're looking at Crisquets, you hit them and stuff falls out. That trade yesterday is just ridiculous to me. No, I agree with you 100%. I totally understand. However, no matter what they get back, those players, more likely, will not be in the system. The way that the Sox are so poor with development, it continues. It has to turn around. Now, here's the thing. I'm giving gets a chance, but with that ownership, he won't get the same backup that most general managers would get. Correct. Hey, his contract time, OK, well, he's been good for the organization. He's productive. Pay him. It's not going to happen here. Agreed. Like, Nick was in here going, the Cubs could spend more. Sure they could. No question. You compare what the Cubs spend to what the White Sox do? My God, it's like a different sport. If I want to be an ace fan, I'd butter my fat ass into the Colosseum seats and be an ace fan. That's not what I'm here for. I'm a Sox fan in Chicago and a major city. Correct. And that's how they run their franchise, the ace. And the Sox are the same way. Got to be better. Yep. Got to be better. But a lot of Sox hate today. Cap, any thoughts on your team's start and tie on to get shelled a day ahead of the deadline yesterday? Well, because they're not trading him. That's tough timing. I mean, I'm sure that his mind wasn't completely locked in where it was supposed to be. Am I getting traded? I don't know. Should I go warm up? Yeah, go warm up. He got obliterated yesterday. Yeah, he was terrible. Yeah. Terrible. He gave up six, I think. Yep. That's his worst start of the year. Taking on Chris Spires, who can play a little shortstop, a little second in and start for you. Pretty good for the Reds. It's not Chris Spire. That was Spire. I don't even think he's alive anymore. You're always killing people. I'm wrong. I think Chris Spire died. Around the NFL is coming up. Don't forget Albert Breyer with the latest on the-- Hold on a minute. Albert Breyer with the latest on the players on the NFL. He's alive. He's 74. You're an a-hole. You know what I mean? Always killing people. He's dead, kid. He's dead, kid. He's alive. See? Former baseball player, he is 74. Married to Katie. Yeah, son Justin, pitch for the Cubs and others. Sure. Yeah, he's alive. Sorry, Chris. I knew him when he was a Cubs third base coach. He's a good man. I thought he-- Wait, to be clear. He still is a good man. Yeah, he is-- That was a good man, because he's alive. Yeah, he's alive. He is alive. Sorry, Chris. Didn't mean to kill you. As we continue to talk about the late Chris Speyer here on Captain J. Hood around the NFL on Chicago's Home for Sports. If you missed something, get the podcast on the ESPN Chicago app. Cap and J. Hood are back on Chicago's Home for Sports. ESPN Chicago. If both sucks, he sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football evaluator. I love the Green Bay Packers. The guy is front, but there he goes. This is not Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. I will win it. He starts the comedy club. This is a really thickly built guy. I mean, what's the answer you're looking for on these things here, huh? [SINGING] It's now time to go around the NFL right here on the Captain J. Hood Morning Show on a ESPN 1000. And streaming on the ESPN Chicago app, Albert Brill will join us at 835 with the latest from the Bears in the NFL. But right now, let's go around the NFL. News and notes. Here's Shane Orling, Shane. All right, I want to ask a question about the Bears as we get ready for the Hall of Fame game. Yeah. I'm going to revisit the Carolina trade that brought Caleb Williams to Chicago. Obviously, you got DJ Moore. You got the pick that resulted in Darnell Wright. You got the pick that resulted in Caleb Williams. If this plays out the way we all hope, and Caleb Williams wins a Super Bowl in Chicago, will this go down as one of the greatest trades in NFL history? There is no doubt this would go down as one of the greatest trades in NFL history. You got DJ Moore, Darnell Wright, because you were able to use your pick on that. Caleb Williams, what else came in that deal? Tyreeks Stevenson, was it? And you got their second pick next year. Yeah. This will go down as one of the greatest trades, the Herschel Walker trades at a different level. This named me another one that was as good as this. Rick Meyer traded to the Bears in '97. They'll make me sick. I remember the day they did that. And if I knew Lonnie then, like I know Lonnie now, I would have gone, are you out of your mind? Rick Meyer stinks. Yeah, I know. Yeah, brutal. Brutal. How many Super Bowls does Caleb need to win for that trade to be better than the Herschel Walker trade? How many does Steve Young win? At least traded to the 49ers in '87. Two, I think, right? All right. I'll take two. You know he was traded to the Bear from Tampa. And the 49er role then made a godfather offer over the topic. So we'll throw a million at cash. And Mike McCasky, rest in peace, said, well, we can't do that. We'll give you the pick. Yeah. It was a first round pick. And the 49ers said, here's the million. All right, we'll take that deal. Yeah. Steve Young. See, this is a great example, Cap, to tell our younger listeners and viewers that you want to have football people making football decisions. That's correct. He was not a football man. That is correct. Mike will tell you, but he was not, Cap. That is correct. See? That's right. A football man wouldn't have done that. They would have built around a Steve Young. But I post Super Bowl. You want to have someone that could grow and be dynamic? Imagine that. We would never have had the mess with Flute or any of that. Flute. Shay. Yesterday in New England, a no good, very, very bad day. For their first padded practice, the Patriots. Matthew Judon doesn't suit up. Heated conversations with front office members and the head coach leaves practice. Godshaw doesn't put on pads, doesn't practice. Four players run penalty laps for mistakes. The entire offense runs a penalty lap. Josh Uche kicked out for fighting, and Drake May, reportedly at a rough day, including a pick six. Is it too early to just go, that team's going to be the worst in football? It's trending that way. One of them, for sure. Certainly trending in that direction. Now here's the thing, Shay. When it comes to the Patriots post Belichick, there was going to be some slippage, all the way to the bottom, possibly. But the point is, though, is that the undisciplined nature of the players on that roster, that's a bad sign. That's a bad sign. You have a bad day. If it's a trend, that's a bad problem for Mayo. How old is Matthew Judon, 34, 33? Because if I'm Ryan Poles, how are you not picking up the phone and calling the GM up in New England? 31. 31. OK. You guys are going to suck. I'll give you a pick. Let me have Judon, and I'll pay him. Matthew Judon on the other end. Oh, doctor. Sure. It might come to that sooner than later, if it keeps going like this. Again, you're going to have some growing pains post Belichick. You're already there anyway, Cap. And that was going to be probably worse before it gets better. But that undisciplined nature guy's walking off? You can't do that. Shay, you know that team better than the three of us combined. How good is-- I know Matthew Judon. I've watched him, but you pay attention to them like you do to your college football video game. How good is Matthew Judon? He's fantastic when he's healthy. Fantastic. He was he healthy now? He was involved. Yeah, I think so. He was awesome when he was in Baltimore. He was awesome the year that he was healthy with the Patriots. They had a top defensive unit. Really led by him. I think your problem is he plays the same side as Montez Swept. So you got to flip him, and that's easier said than done, typically. Hey, Mr. Teen Games last season had that torn biceps. If he's healthy, I'd have to know. My doctor said he's good to go. Can he make the flip? Can Montez make the-- whatever. If it would work, let's go. Show us a few guys. I mean, Hassan Reddick still doesn't have a deal. He keeps getting fined every day. He's not at Jets camp. They're idiots. They don't want to pay him for whatever reason, despite having traded for him, knowing he wants a contract. If I'm polls, I'm on the phone there. I see Judon loses mind in New England. I'm on the phone there. I'd be interested in Ivanka. Trey Hendrickson still. Trey Hendrickson. Got issues. Not practicing for Cincinnati. Let's go, man. Hey, he's Mayo there. He's no Belichick. I'll tell you that. The brother needs some help. He does. Now, some of these guys, like-- I saw a lot of him-- Dorchester, you're on the air. Go ahead. I saw a lot of talk about Tristan Worfs and Tampa. He's not getting a deal right now. Some struggles there. He's going to become the highest paid tackle in football. He's going to be in Tampa Bay. Trey Hendrickson, I have a feeling, is going to be a Cincinnati bangle. He's not going anywhere. They'll get it done. But retic and Judon stand out to me as guys. The relationship might be irreparable on the teams that they're on. There really could be an opportunity to strike. Let's go. You want to do that, huh? You want to do that right away, right? I mean, if I can get an elite-- I'm talking elite, past Russia. Why would I not do that? Quinn and Quincy, you're on the air on EEI. Go ahead. I don't know how this mayo there. I don't know. Alien wolf. What a quambo. He's the GM out there. What a quambo. I don't know. Kelly at Ryan Pulse. Yeah. What do you want? I'll give you a fourth round pick right now. Sure. [PHONE RINGING] Hello? Hello? Who's this? [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] This is Chicago Bears, man. Here's Shay Dorley. Let's go. Did you see this story about Tommy DeVito? Tommy Cutlets? Tommy. From the New York Giants, played a little bit last year, screwed up their draft positioning. A lot of Giants fans hate him because he came in and won games they should have lost. Yeah. Tommy DeVito, obviously not going to be the starting quarterback. Daniel Jones has that job. And DeVito said it's up to the Giants if they want to gamble on losing him. I don't know who has a bigger opinion of Tommy DeVito. Him or his agent? Has he still got the same agent? Yeah, that lunatic. I think he's doing cameos now. That's all marketing and smoking mirrors, man. Good for that agent. He got him out there quickly. Won a couple of games. My god. OK, Tommy. Special quarterback, huh? OK, probably not. He's just good as a backup. He can still make money as a backup. Just be that guy. Pinchitter. He just went out and did his job. Yep. Tolly did. You know? Pride and joy at the University of Illinois. Now we turn to Albert Breyer. That's coming up next. We find out more for the Bears and the NFL. Albert Breyer from SI.com and Money Morning Quarterback will join us next on the cap and jay hood morning show.