Kap & J. Hood
7/16 8 AM: Jesse Rogers
I'm going to take my 1-6, Lanny of suppression on target. That's why I see him shot, or no shot, with Captain Jihood on ESPN 1000 and ESPN Chicago app. That's why I see him on the shot. Good morning and welcome in to the Captain Jihood Morning Show on ESPN 1000, and we're streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you, now time for a shot or no shot and is brought to you by ESPN Betna Live in Illinois, download the ESPN Betna app on your mobile, get $100 with any sports book, that's a good morning to Shane Norley. Good morning boys, how are we doing on a Friday? We're doing great, you know, not only the NFL is right around the corner, but coach football is right around the corner as well, Shay. And so, I know it's already started in your home. How many national championship banners have you hung in your home over the last, say, two or three weeks? Just the one actually on CFB 25, just the one with Appalachian State. What are you working on? Been playing a lot of online games. I also started an offensive coordinator at Eastern Michigan. I want to see if I can get a job on the tier of Alabama within 10 seasons, the Kailin Divor route. I'm all in, man, it's actually really fun, isn't it? I mean, you're playing CFB 25 and some of these videos are popped up on Twitter, by the way, of some of these games. There's a UW Parkside team out there, Cap. You can just make yourself a team, UW Parkside on your way to a national championship. So is my division three school in there? No, of course not, but you can create it and put it in there. You can make a national championship team beating Alabama for the national title, Dabo Clemson. Absolutely. Crazy. It just, it's just fun. And it's just kind of like. How do you buy it, the whole thing, the new system? Is there a new system? I mean, you could play it on PS5. I have a PS5. Absolutely. God bless. Yeah, it's just, it's just fun. Listen, you and your family play games. When you guys are together, you play games, right? It's the same thing as a video game. It's just entertainment. It's another way of entertainment. It keeps you out of trouble. That's it. You, when I call you and sometimes you're right in the middle of a family game. Yeah, we play sequence or Singapore, Jen, or one of these games. Yeah. So did same thing. Yeah. But Shae's already got a nap. You call him champion, by the way. You can call him champ because one of his teams has already won a national championship on CFP 25. Now think about it. You think that he's a jackaloon, but the guy knows how to win a championship. It's a champ behind you. He's still a jackaloon. That right, Jay? I'm still a jackaloon. Is that right? Yeah. Always will be in the eyes of you and be proud to be. He's been a national champion. And by the way, at 802, right in front of us, we've got our guy making sure that he's got his Dr. Pepper mixed with who knows what something there in the middle. Yep. It's having a nice. And he literally brings a chair, not a folding chair now. It's one that doesn't fold. It's like a like a desk chair. Yes. But he scoots in and he is going to watch the show. He's got the morning paper. Shooting audience. He's going to go to the bathroom now, but he'll be right back. Yep. He rolled himself a joint this morning. He was having a nice day. That's Friday, man. Enjoy it. God bless it. Here's Shay Norley. All right. Twenty seven straight weeks of football coming up here, hoodie. What are you saying? Exciting stuff. If you're telling Jaymore, you're telling Shay you're interrupting him. Sorry. I'm trying to get audio for the show. Yeah, just to tell him on the air, Jaymore, it's at the end of the link I sent you. Thank you. Because if you're telling Jaymore, you know you're telling Shay because it's the same button. I thought when Shay was on, he might have cut it off. The man's trying to read the first shot or no shot. He's trying. But I should have realized we can barely get Mike's instead erecting around here. So, damn. Okay. Go ahead, Shay. There's a pill for that. Here's Shay Norley. When I talk to you and you're Mike's son, does it shut your mic off? Sure doesn't. Anyway, Ryan Holes has spoken unprompted about the bears liking their depth on the defensive line at training camp, saying they feel comfortable with the guys they have on the roster. Brad Biggs wrote the translation for this as, "The bears like their guys enough. They're not going to pay the asking price for the free agents that are available. The price would probably have to come down to bring somebody in like Yannick and Gakway." So, shot or no shot, the bears will not add a free agent as Russia. Yeah, I think that's a shot. What are you doing over there? What are you doing? I'm just wearing some water. Go ahead. No one's bothering you. When for you? There is a shot because they do like what they have. I don't think they were blown away by Yannick and Gakway and thought, "Oh God. We have to have him back." If he fell to them in a particularly good price, I hope everyone that's on their way to work can laugh as much as we laugh. What do you mean? We just have a good time here, man. Thursday. So, I think there's absolutely a shot. Could I see them upgrading in another area? Is this the fine Gilmore still out there? He's there. Is it still out there? It's center. We'll see. Let's go back, Shane, to what Mark potash said yesterday. Mark potash yesterday, when we asked him about Yannick and Gakway, he says he was not necessarily overwhelmed or was wowed by Gakway. We've heard from Courtney Cronin in this regard as well, talking about how the bears, kind of like what they have, if in Gakways here, that'll be a luxury to the team. But at some point, Shay, you have to take a look at what you have as a roster and you gotta develop it. It may not be at the same level as in Gakway when he was at his peak, but I think that at some point, you have to look at your roster and say, "Well, besides sweat, others have to be able to get to the quarterback." I mean, potash said it himself, he goes, "It's not a necessity for him to be with the ball club this year." So, I would say that what you have, Cap, you have to move forward with. And if you feel like you need an upgrade, that's why you get the trade deadline. If you feel like there's someone that's on a bad team that flourishes and looking for a fresh start, play for the bears. This is why it's a long season. What you have now is that what you might have in October, November, December. So, I mean, sweat was picked up, what, early? At the trade deadline. Sure. So, at this point in time, I say go with what you have. If in Gakways, someone that you don't need, then move forward. Shane Orley, all right, Sports Illustrated provided projections for the first round rookie quarterbacks and, unsurprisingly, Caleb Williams had the strongest projected stats for all rookies. They had them at a 65% completion percentage, 26 touchdowns, 12 interceptions and 3,700 passing yards. Shot or no shot. This would be a massively successful rookie season. Give them the numbers again. 26 TDs, 12 picks, 3,700 yards. No, that wouldn't be massively successful. That'd be okay. For a bear's quarterback, it would be massively successful for a generational prospect. It'd be probably the second best passing season in the organization's history. Okay. Again, our organization's history sucks. Yeah. That's why that would be unbelievable. No. That'd be fireworks in the sky. Disagree. Compare to everything else. Amen. I'm disappointed if that's his number. You can't get everything that you want in year one. See, guys like you will be going after him after year one if he doesn't get the numbers that you want, 3,700 yards, 26 touchdowns, 12, 12 interceptions. For year one in this offense, that's luckman-like. No. To completely disagree. It is. Hold on to me. Compare to all the other quarterbacks that the Bears have had through here. You have to start someplace. You've got Keenan Allen, Roma, Dunes A. J. Moore, I mean, DJ Moore. Huh? I said J. Moore. But DJ Moore at wide receiver. You got Camette Everett, Mercedes Lewis, DeAndre Swift. You've upgraded spots on the offensive line. I mean, no. If that's his numbers, I'll be very disappointed. You would be asking for a trade. I just want to like, that is crazy level of expectation to me because what I just delivered is a surefire runaway rookie of the year season. Oh, I'm not so sure about that. Yeah. Who else is going to do that? I mean, what were the numbers for C. D. Stroud last year? Dwarf those. Dwarf those. Did not. Did not really. In yardage, certainly. But yardage, he was well over 4,000. 23 touchdowns, 5 picks, 4,100 yards. Did not really dwarf the numbers. I just don't know. Yeah, he actually did. Seven less interceptions and 600 more, 500 more yards. Three fewer touchdowns. Okay. I'll take C. D. Stroud level numbers. Would you prefer C. J. Stroud right now over at Kaleb Williams? No. How fair is it to expect that? Some people have called that the best rookie season by a quarterback, maybe an NFL history. I don't know if I agree. I think Justin Herbert's 31 and 10 was probably the best I've seen in my lifetime. But how fair is it to expect C. J. Stroud numbers against the numbers I just offered? Where I believe Kaleb Williams will win rookie of the year with 26 touchdowns, 12 picks and 3700 yards. Let me just say as a baseline, those are not bad numbers. And if you are a long time Bears fan, you would not turn a blind eye to those numbers. Now again, as a baseline cap, 3700 yards would be great. If he could exceed that, that'd be awesome. But here's the thing. He is a rookie in the NFL, a rookie in the NFL. Yes, he's the number one pick. But again, there's a very few far in between the examples of a quarterback being able to play at that kind of high level. Very few and far in between. We talked about Andrew Luck. Let's take a look at Andrew Luck's numbers in his first year cap. Go ahead. His first year. Let's take a look at Justin Herbert. Very few we talk about that can be able to exceed those expectations. Now, I would agree with you that, yes, the team seems ready made based on the depth chart. They did a lot to be able to install offensive weaponry for Kaleb Williams, but he's got to get the job done. The Waldra's got to get the job done and they all have to acclimate and work together for this to happen. That's all I'm saying. And you asked for Andrew Luck's numbers for everybody out there. He started all 16 games. He went 11 and 5. He completed 54% of his passes for 4,374 yards, 23 to 18 TV to interception rate. Pretty good. Pretty good for the first year. A lot of interception. Yeah. What I'm offering from Kaleb would be a better season than that. And the other example is Justin Herbert. We've gone through this this summer talking about very few where a rookie comes in is able to have to make a splash and CJ shrouds one of them now. We can add him to the list. I'm saying is is that it's about incremental success. You're not going to get your big slice of the pie in year one. You can get it moving forward, but in year one, we have to hit. He's got to get the kinks out. That's all. Do you see? What do you think my home stats were as a rookie? Well, he played one game. I'm talking about his first year as a starter. Okay. So that's not a rookie here though. Okay. His first year as a starter, he completed 63% of his passes. Correct. 66% of his passes completed for 5,097 yards, 50 to 12. That's expected for a generational talent. Yeah. And I'm not telling you, I expect Kaleb to throw for 7,000 yards. He should be 4,000 yards, 30 touchdowns and a dozen interceptions. I'd be happier. Your lips to God's ears. But if that, if those numbers say equate to a playoff birth, cheers. Who's shade? All right. On sportsman likes Michelle Smallman this morning offered her five biggest pretenders in the NFL this season, usual suspects on the list, Steelers were there, Cowboys were there, Browns were there. Surprisingly, the Chicago Bears checked in at number three on our list. Here's Michelle's moment. There's a lot of hype surrounding this team for the first time in a long time. Unfortunately, I think people need to lower their expectations when it comes to the Chicago Bears. They had a masterful off season. They really put Kaleb Williams, their number one overall pick and the person that unfortunately has been given the assignment of savior for the Chicago Bears. They put him in a great position, but despite that defense, despite all the weapons that they put around Kaleb Williams, despite the incredible promise that he has as quarterback, I think it's going to take a while for them to really gel and figure it out. Putting them in pretender is interesting, but I guess when you have Rich Eisen and Mark Sanchez this week saying they'll go to the NFC title game, we have to qualify it somehow. But shot or no shot, the Bears do not belong on the pretenders list. That is a no shot, they do not belong on the pretenders list. I would not say pretenders completely agree. I'm not telling you they're winning the Super Bowl, although I have a ticket, they are absolutely more than a pretender and I'm very disappointed in Michelle. So she has a 30 day ban from the show. A 30 day ban. All right. You ban Jimmy Joe Pesci, I ban Michelle Smallman. Difference is he sucks. So if we were going to build that list of pretenders, if the Bears are not on it, who would be on that list? Stealers? For sure. Jets? Do the Steelers have enough hype to be on a pretenders list? That's my like, who's saying that they're even remotely a contender? Everybody thinks they're going to be last place in their division. You can't be a pretender and have those kind of expectations on you. How about the Browns? And for sure, questions at quarterback should be good jets. I'd throw on the pretenders list. I think they're destined for a disappointing season. You want to bet side bet that one? What do you want to do? What's the terms here? Side bets brought to you by Aiken Law. Three, one, two, six million for the great Howard. I think the Jets are going to be a beast. They got a ton of talent on it. What do you want to set the terms? Make the playoffs or make the division around? How do you want to do it? Let's make the playoffs. Hold on, Shay, let's think about this now. I'm looking out for you. Hang on. Jets make the playoffs. Do we expect the Bills make the playoffs? You know what? I'm going to take the wager hoodie because I think the Jets are third place in their own division. It's difficult to make the playoffs out of that spot. I'm going to take the bet with cap. All right. The same 50 that I paid you for your Celtics. That's a tough one. Those endorphins to the playoffs, right? The AFC East. I'm not convinced the Dolphins are going to the playoffs. Okay. That's why, right? That's what you think the Jets take their spot. Correct. So you see them as a 10 win ball club. They turn it around. Yes. 10 and 7. Yes. Healthy Rogers. Yes. Okay. Okay, Shay. We're in. Shay, you sure? Yeah. I mean, I do not believe in the Jets at all. I think, look, the roster is good. The front office and head coach, I think, is a total disaster. Yeah. If they don't get to where they are going to, if they think they're going to be a playoff team, it's great. But if they don't, that'll be all for Salah. Let's go Jets. Who says that? Who says that? Let's go Jets. Mm-hmm. I like Rogers. I want them to be good. What's coming up next on Granny? No, we get enough of that between 10 and noon. Let's go Jets. Who does that? J E T S, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets. I can mark Kat down. He's the eighth Jets fan in the world. Wow. Jets. My God. We go around the NFL and don't forget baseball conversation with Jesse Rogers at 835. Captain Jay Hood on ESPN 1000 and also on our YouTube channel. Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitch at ESPN 1000 Chicago. Jeff and Jay Hood are back on Chicago's home for sports. ESPN Chicago. It both sucks. He sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football evaluator. I love the Green Bay Packers. The guy who's from, but there he goes. This is not Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. I will win him. He starts to come at any moment. This is a really thickly built guy. I mean, what's the answer you're looking for on these things here? It's now time for around the NFL right here on Captain Jay Hood on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. We'll hear from Jesse Rogers at the latest on the Cubs and Sox and everything else MLB around the NFL. Here's Shay Norley. Twenty seven consecutive weeks with football starting next week. Training camps around the league are open. That means we're getting real football storylines and, you know, I have opinions. Want to start with something that happened at Raiders camp yesterday? I don't know if you saw this video, Raiders players were on video holding a Kermit the Frog puppet wearing a Patrick Mahomes jersey. Are these guys stupid? Wow. What do you poke in the bear for? That's interesting. I'm saying cap that he's Kermit the Frog. Well, I'm sure that really ruffled his feathers. I would not, I would not do that. This guy's been beating your ass in your division for years. I've been beating your ass for years. That's right. That's exactly right. Yeah. The last thing you need to do is motivate him any further. How about beating Patrick Mahomes instead of making fun of Patrick Mahomes? How about that? Want to try that? That'd be a novel concept. But it's not easy. Raider gonna Raider, man. It just, just such a dumpster fire. Just when you think they got it turned, it's always something. And they beat the Chiefs big time in Vegas last year. Remember that? Andy Reed said, dude, Antonio Biers. Thank you. We needed that. Okay. I think that's a bad idea. Even though he might sound like Kermit the Frog. Here's Shayna. What do you think Andy Reed's saying, seeing them all pass around to Kermit the Frog puppet with Mahomes Jersey? Oh, you think you needed that? He's saying, yeah, if Frog legs. Good idea. Patrick, give me some Frog legs. I'm hungry. Wow. That's the coffee. That's what Andy's saying right now. That's what he's saying, Cap. Wow. Frog legs. Delicious. Frog legs. Here's Shayna. How about those nuggies? He loves the nuggies. That's true. He loves the nuggies. Yeah. For the third consecutive time, the Dallas Cowboys are allowing a head coach to go into a lame duck year. They did this with Jerry Jones. He ended up being pretty successful in his first lame duck year. So they allowed him to go into a second lame duck year where his contract expired and they moved on to Mike McCarthy. Now they have lame duck Mike McCarthy. Jerry Jones was asked about this and why they didn't opt to give Mike McCarthy an extension. Jerry used two words, Green Bay. If the loss pissed you off enough that you don't have faith in the guy to give him an extension, shouldn't you just fire him? What do you think? The problem is like they're built to win now. It doesn't mean they're going to, but they're built to win with Mike Parsons. They're getting their corner back back and they get dack and seedy lamb and all these dudes. When you fire a coach, it is like turning around a battleship. You change everything. You change terminology. You change the staff, the daily interactions. You change everything. You don't just automatically go, all right, who are we hiring there? What are we putting in there? You got to hire a ballot check? No, you're not hiring a ballot check. So you don't have an experienced guy who you hired. You hire Lincoln Riley, who's never had a defense in his life. All of a sudden you're like, this guy's never been in the NFL. Now we got to teach him this. Next thing you know, you're one in five and your season short circuited. They're giving him one more year. That's why. Can I just tell you something? Can I just tell you something? I'm so tired of the Cowboys talk. I'm so tired. I don't know what it would ever put a ticket on them. That's you. But again, you have disposable income. I don't have. I did not bet on them. No, but you have when we told you not to. So, but I'm sure he'll come back around. You'll hear you'll hear from somebody, right? I don't know. I think the Cowboys can do it. Hey, I heard through a source of mine that they're going to be pretty good. Here's a hundred bucks. It's not worth it. It's not worth it. I'm so I'm just so tired of the the as the world turns search for tomorrow soap opera of the Dallas Cowboys as if we as a nation have to fix them. There was a time where America's team, okay, you can call America's team when they were good. I'm so tired of them in America's team, by the way, is more of a marketing slogan, more so than a real thing. So tired like it's a bunch of underachievers with an owner that's an underachiever himself. I don't care how much he's made cap. The team is not at a championship level. It's just not someone else should be America's team. Why can't they be the Chicago Bears? Exactly. Go over our football drive in Lake Forest where we'll be coming up America loves an underdog story. It's why the Lions were the most watched national team last year like that if you're good from nothing, that'll make you America's team if only for a season. Let's go. Look, Eber Flus Chicago's is primed as any cap. You brought up Bill Belichick Lincoln Riley. They also could have potentially talked to Mike Vrable. They could have fired Mike McCarthy and hired Dan Quinn who was already in their building as defensive coordinator. They had options. It's not like they were bereft of coaching, guys. Again, when you change coaches, it's not just plug and play like a baseball manager and roll them out. Everything changes, man, everything. The terminology to the way they do things, everything. It's a much bigger deal, much bigger. I get what Jerry's doing. I probably would have done the same thing. Kept him. He's under contract. I got to pay him. Everything stays the same. And then I make my decisions because if they short circuit and have a bad year, there could be monumental change coming. Monumental. No deck. No CD lamb. No mic. There could be a ton of change there. Jerry wants his yes man in there. No more Barry Switzer or Jerry Jones being bigger than the program, bigger than the organization. Jimmy Johnson. What would I say? Jerry Jones. You said Barry Switzer, Jimmy Jones. Jerry Jones doesn't want a Jimmy Johnson or Barry Switzer like in there because he felt that they were bigger than the organization, bigger than Jerry. But they won. Yeah, it was not good enough, though. The only time they won. Yeah, not good enough. He wants to have someone like, you know, like Red who's doing broadcast right now, the whole quarterback. Oh, Jason Garrett for 10 years or McCarthy, the beat cop. Barry still with us. I know. He's not on the show today. Wow. San Francisco. Don't look now. They might finally be approaching cap hell. It's been a nice run of discount contracts, but things seem to be troublesome. Brandon Iu holding in amid a trade demand. He can't reach an agreement on a long term deal. They have Trent Williams holding out. Trent Williams under contract for the next three seasons with $0 of guaranteed money. He wants some guarantees. He wants another big payday and Bill Barnwell yesterday projected Brock Perry for an extension worth $65 million a year next off season. Welcome to cap hell when that kicks in. They can't pay everybody. Did this Niners deal actually be falling apart? Yes, that's a shot and they haven't won one ring. Yeah. Say it out loud. Brock Perry, 65 million a year with no way they'll do that unless he has leads him to the Super Bowl this year and then he's earned it. No way. Think about it, 65 million for Brock Perry. We have seen a lot of fame for like seven for a song compared to what we see up here all the time. But just wait until God willing, we're all alive and still doing the show and Che goes bring up breaking news, a bear's according to Schefter of reaching agreement with Caleb Williams on a five year $500 million deal. That's what's coming in five years. And maybe no Super Bowl by then. Just giving them the money because that's the going rate. You better. I'm just saying. Shay, 65 was it 65 million? Brock Perry. There's no way they'll pay him that. I can't imagine. Shanny loves changing quarterbacks. He loves proving he can do it with anybody happened with Jimmy G moved on from Jimmy G did it with Purdy rather than pay Purdy $65 million a year. I could see them grabbing somebody in the draft and Shanny just I can do it with anybody. Wow. All right. That's our look around the NFL. Jesse Rogers, the latest on the baseball weekend with the Cubs and Sox everything else MLB. Captain Jay Hood weekday morning seven to 10. Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitter at ESPN 1000. Cap and Jay Hood are back on ESPN Chicago Chicago's home for sports. Jesse Rogers with us every Monday and Friday year on the cap and Jay Hood morning show and he's on the hotline. That'd be the car X tire not a hotline. Rattle, rattle, thunder, batter, boom, boom, boom. Don't worry. Call the car X. Good morning Jesse. How are you? I am good boys. What's going on? You know what's going on. All this trade conversation on both sides of town. Let's start first with the Chicago Cubs because now if you didn't know before that's definitely a white flag scenario, you just know that they're not going to be in it. So they could be selling off parts. What's the latest on one of the starting pictures for the Cubs? Is he expendable? Yeah, I mean a lot of scouts looking at Jameson tie on a lot of people talking in the industry about it. You know, it's kind of interesting. The Cubs have all these guys under contract. And so you didn't know who was necessarily going to be looked at, but this is the name that continues to emerge. I think it's 50 50. I mean, he also has a no trade clause which can complicate things. He signed for two more years, so they don't have to trade him like they do a pending free agent. I'm not going to lie to you and say, I know exactly what's going to happen because these are not pending free agents. So I reported earlier in the week the teams looking at them. There certainly could be mystery teams, but Baltimore has been on his case big time. I think they would trade even a major league hitter for him. There's Houston and both New York teams. And again, there could be some other ones as well. So tie on season has really opened the eyes for teams around the league. Like I said, I think it's 50 50. I add in this trade is 10 team no trade thing. And that's where you just don't know for sure it's going to happen. So I was talking to Jim Bowden the other day and he said, if you think you're going to contend next year, he goes and going into his fifth year and his final year of his deal, they better contend. He would not trade Jameson tie on. He said, unless the only way is if you got one or two elite level prospects that you controlled for five years, he said, if you tell me I've got long term control of someone that I think can be part of the next really good team, I'm willing to talk to you goes, I don't think you can get that. I think you can get a nice package, but he goes, you tell me where you're finding someone who can throw like he throws pitching as well as he's pitching that you control for just two years at 18 a year, those guys aren't out there. Yeah, I mean, there's some truth to that, but remember he's pitching maybe the best certainly as a cub and in a few years. So it's that whole idea, are we trading him at his peak and getting more for him than you would at any other time? Here's the other thing though, Bowden is not wrong in his sentiment. I don't think the Cubs are trading any, here's a great example. They're not doing the Eudarvis trade. They're not trading someone for three teenagers. This would be possibly majorly player for majorly player, in fact, I really think it would be and if not a majorly player, it's what you just said, someone on the verge like Michael Bush is a great example. He was ready to start in the major leagues this year. They did not trade for Bush to start in two years and I think it would be the same thing with tie-on either ready to go already in the majors or on the verge of it and getting blocked and that's why the Orioles are a good trade partner. They have several positions that are blocked by these all-stars and that's where the Cubs could swoop in but other teams are interested as well. Any other players in the Cubs that could be traded? Yeah, Mark Lader Jr., all week I've been here and just tons of tons of people talking about him, scouts have been really watching him since he came off the injured list. I don't think he's given up a base runner, he's just been absolutely fantastic. Again, another pitcher pitching at his peak right now, this is the best he's looked as a Cubs. So, Mark Lader Jr., I'll say this, I'd be surprised if he's not traded. Anyone else, I wouldn't be surprised but I'll be surprised if Mark Lader Jr. is not traded because so many teams are looking at him. Everyone wants a bullpen arm and there's not many this good going this good right now. So that'd be the guy at the top of my list. What about Cody Bellinger who's already back swinging the bat and they said throwing might take a little bit longer with the finger but he's able to swing. Is there a chance he gets moved? A minor one have not heard a lot of chatter about him. I really haven't. Seattle pounds late last night for people that don't know, Randy or Rosarina. So they're probably off the table. I thought there might be a deal there. Pittsburgh could use a bat, I don't know if the Cubs were trading the division, I just don't think Pittsburgh's taking on that kind of money. So I don't think he's going to go cap but you know how this works. Sometimes the guy you never hear about is the one that's traded. But I just have not, I mean, scouts haven't been around to watch him because he hasn't been playing but I don't think that would get in the way. We all know what he is but I just don't think it's going to happen. He's not even back in the lineup until probably after the trade deadline or right at it. In terms of when I was talking to Bowdoin, he said, so you fired David Ross, you brought in Craig Council and your team got worse. He said that tells you that it is absolutely a Jed Carter problem. Do you think there's going to be any level of accountability, any kind of change to what they do, their processes, their GM, their president, their scouting, whatever it is. Will there be any kind of accountability or oh well we hear our offense is broken, we'll try to fix it. Because Jesse, outside of increasing the payroll, I don't know how that gets better. It's the same, it's the same suspects here. Yeah. So let me answer that two ways. One, I do think that there will be some sacrificial lambs in the coaching staff. I mean, just by nature because this is not Craig Council's coaching staff. He did hire the bench coach Ryan Flaherty, but didn't even know Ryan Flaherty before he hired him. So he doesn't have his Pat Murphy there. I do think there'll be some changes in the coaching staff, but like I said, that's not the reason they're not winning. Jed said something very interesting money that flew under the radar to answer your question. Cap, I don't think they're going to change much in terms of processes and thoughts and ideas and all that stuff. Obviously, they'll examine things, but I don't think his path is changing. What he said Monday was, I'm not deterred by our plan. We just feel like right now, this is a one year step back. We were on a nice path last year, we're having a one year step back, but I am not deterred by my plan. And that surprised me a little. I thought he would look in the mirror and be like, wait a minute, am I doing the right thing? For example, as I've been critical of trying to compete and rebuild at the same time, is that the right way to go? But whatever path they're on, Jed believes in it and he just thinks that at worst, this is a one year step back. More with Jesse on the Sox and everything else, MLB, coming up next, as Jesse's brought to you by West Coast Men's Health, helping men with ED and chronic pain for over five years. Go to West Coast Men's Health dot com. Jesse Rogers with us here on the cap and Jacob morning show on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. Well, Jesse got asked about socks news because any facts, because what Garrett crochet, a lot of rumor out there about crochet will even see the start from your reporting. What have you heard? Will you see the start against Seattle? I don't know the answer to that, but what I can tell you about my reporting is confirming what Jen John Heyman broke yesterday that he certainly wants an extension. If he's going to pitch in the playoffs for another team, he has made that known to the baseball world. He absolutely thought he was going to throw 25 or so starts this year. That was the plan, I think internally with him and his people. And if you want another five or six, whatever the case may be, you're going to have to pay for it. This is a little bit unprecedented now. Let's just backtrack. If he actually gets traded, who knows he might relent because this doesn't necessarily make him look good. But look, you have to stick up for yourself. You are a first year starter. You still have two years of arbitration. If you get hurt, you're never going to see that big payday. So I sort of get having some leverage. But I don't know what happens if he's actually traded and you get to October, is he really going to go home, so to speak. So this is what he's putting out there, trying to get some money out of a team, you know, an extension. And I'm hearing the extension we want would be a very big one. So this definitely muddies the water. The other part of that story is he wants to stay in the rotation. Now, that's something I pretty much talked to him about at the All-Star game. Like he doesn't want to go to the bullpen, then back to the rotation. He wants to stand a five day routine, even if it was pitch four innings this time, pitch five innings this time, pitch three innings. Like if even if they ramp him down a little, he wants to stay as a starter. That's him and his people and his medical people huddling on this. And this is what they've decided to make public. So it definitely complicates the trade. I don't think he's just going to get a hundred million dollar extension in the middle of August or whatever. So I think it's now fifty, fifty or less he gets traded, which three days ago I would have said seventy five percent or more that he does get traded. So that's where we're at with crochet. Okay. So give me an over under a number of players traded by the Cubs over under on players traded by the White Sox. I think the over under for the Cubs is going to be two and a half or three, maybe two and a half. Let's make it two and a half. I don't think they're going to trade more than two. That's over or under? I'm going to bet over three, over two and a half, over two and a half, but barely. I think it's going to be like three because I do think it's one to two relievers than a random who knows. So I'm going to say Cubs over two and a half players, White Sox. I think we set it at three and a half last week. We talked about this or one of the shows did. So I'm going to stick with three and a half for the White Sox and I will definitely take the over there as well. Boy, you know that you've lost the White Sox when you've lost Frank Thomas, Oz again and Chuck Garfin all at the same time. Frank, this is why, in my opinion, why you're not seeing anybody offensively saying, let's go. Let's help out our pitchers. You want to know why? Because no one's hitting. If you're a guy who is hitting, what can you say? Let's go. But that's how you wake guys up. But what if you're not? This is the major leagues. I know. You're getting paid to do your job. Right. These guys are pitches day in and day out and you can't do your job once a week. Okay. So who's the guy? So who's the guy? So who's the guy on offense and he says, you know what, there's matches in it. He's got to make a lot of money. By the way, throw ups, lead this team, get some hits, fight with each other. Let's go. How about I have a question? I was at worst hitting on the team and I was the first one on VOC or like, really? We got it. And like, look at us. You hit 120. I don't care. I just want people to listen. What I don't call with me to get the big hits. But somebody had to step it off, wake up there, believe me. But no one's done it yet. They're not fighting. They're not fighting. Oh boy. So, so because of that chassis, I mean, when you, I mean, you lost a Chuck Garfah. We said this early in the season. You lost Chuck. That'll be all. But so what about Luis Robert? How expendable is he? Yeah. No, he's definitely out there. He's definitely out there. I mentioned on the area yesterday that two days ago a rival exec, this is before the crochet news, told me he thought still that crochet and Luis Robert would be moved. So if crochet comes back off the table, that probably advances Luis Robert in a way, you know what I mean? As gets tries to move this rebuild along. So yeah, I think they're all on the table. I mean, I think Vaughn would be on the table if he was having a better year. I don't think gets has any ties to any of these guys, really, other than, you know, the very young guys that they just traded for like Corey Lee last year. So I think they're all on the table and the fact that crochet may not be means the other guys even gets will be even more aggressive with it. I'm surprised as nothing's happened yet with them. But I think last night with a Rosarina, we'll start to break the dam and, you know, this weekend will be interesting. And of course, a Rosarina will debut with the Mariners this weekend. So we'll see how that all works out, but it should heat up. I think there's going to be a lot of little deals and, you know, if crochet goes or Luis Robert, that'll be a big one. But I don't think there's going to be a lot of big, big ones. So Rosarina is a big name, but there's not that many out there. So a lot of little deals to be had. You know what, Cap, we speculated early on a few teams that would want to would be amenable to this crochet demand, meaning that, okay, we'll take you and we'll sign you Dodgers for sure. That's maybe. Yeah. I don't know. I think you're right on the money. Now, Baltimore could say we're going to let Burns walk at the end of the year privately. And because he wants 300 million, we can't afford that. We'll pay crochet five for 125, the Tyler Glass now deal, and we'll give up prospects and we'll put him in our rotation. You think that's a possibility? I think they're all possibilities. I'm doubtful that the Orioles would do that. And I think he won't have to take the one, you know, I don't think the deal would have to be exactly like last night. I think it'd be a little less, but I do think it'd be 100 million. My guess is Baltimore wouldn't do that, but I do think, you know, maybe the Dodgers or in you mentioned the Astros, Jim Crane, the owner, I think those are possibilities. It's just less than it was 48 hours ago. That's the best way. All right. Let me ask you this. Two part thing. One, Jen has said, if we made any type of an addition, it would be with the eye beyond 2024. They have no stars. Is there any chance they go get Vlad Guerrero or Boba Shat or some other star that's out there that's going to get paid and they're willing to write the check? That's a, b, you said what percentage time gets traded? 5050. 5050. Okay. All right. Yeah. What about the star? Yeah. I mean, the answer is yes. I think he's trying to do that. I just don't think it'll be easy to, for example, Blue Jays have sort of told everyone they're holding on to those guys, but that could change. So I think he'd love to try. And I think that's why he's working the phones like this in terms of trading guys under contract, major league players. That's what gets you a star level prospect back or even a proven major league commodity. I think if they trade with Baltimore, it will be off the major league team, at least one out builder, you know, Ryan Mount Castle or someone like that, but that's not a Aaron judge. They don't grow on trees cap. So I think he's going to do his best, but I'm not sure he can pull it off, but I do think whatever trade they make in half waves, there's no trade, whatever, it's for major league ready players or already players in the major league. So, but I can't, I can't forecast a star. That's just really tough. So we'll see. Jess, you mentioned that you foresee like small deals, not like major blockbuster deals by the time we get to the deadline. Is that because of how the wild card is set up, like you kind of know who you are, like you don't think that the Red Sox or the Diamondbacks or even Pittsburgh would try to get someone to get a little bit of push to slide by themselves in the playoffs? I do think they would, but there's just too many teams in it and there's not enough stars that are going to move. I mean, if Bellinger was healthy, that would be one of the bigger names and he comes with it with a paycheck too though. So that's the point. I just don't think there's a lot of stars available after Rosarina, after Luis Robert Jr., if he actually moves because all these teams want little upgrades, you know, not a lot of them want to add salary, but there's also not a lot of salary to add, you know, again, that changes if the Blue Jays trade flag or rare or someone like that. So that's why I just think the marketplace this year is twofold, too many teams in it and not enough stars available. Yeah, like the Mets have a chance they've been resurgent being up on the Yankees. Yeah, I mean, a lot of guys are back. Alonzo, JD Martinez, those guys would have been available, but the Mets are in it. Yeah. The Yankees need some reinforcements, I'll give them Bellinger, Lighter and Tyone and just give me a judge back. They do a bit too big time prospects at the Mingas and Spencer Jones. One of them is going to move. But even those guys aren't having great years. It's all crapshoot, but look, Jed's got to rework this somehow. You got to change up the mix because the mix isn't working right now. My friend will talk to you on Monday. Absolutely. I'm headed to White Sox. Throughout the weekend and the deadline and everything, I mean, it's not about the games, too. It's about short straw. Yeah, it's either that or you're going to visit Dave Sims, the veteran voice of the Mariners. There's no other reason to get there. Well, after Tuesday, I'm going to be scarce on the south side. I have to. Oh. No news. Jerry's not there either until Bristol tells me, wait a minute, there might lose 121. Get back down there and cover it. So we'll see. God. Wow. All right. This is how it works. All right, Jesse, get something done on the north side, man. I'm either. You accountable. I'm going to make some calls. I'm going to make some calls. You've got it. Cap. See you. [Music] Gessie Rogers brought to you by West Coast Men's Health in two minutes. Really the face of the bears lately. Jalen Johnson had some things to say about the state of the ball club. next in two minutes on cap and jay hood.