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And Cap, we were waiting to find out what the president of operations for the Chicago Cubs, Jed Hoyer had to say to the press before the game. We were wondering what he was gonna say. Listen, you wake up this morning, the Cubs with a victory against Milwaukee, they're 49 and 53, they are nine games behind in the central three and a half games behind in the wildcard because Cincinnati won yesterday. And again, I feel like what we're talking about with the Cubs lately is like what we talked about last year. In that, the Cubs are not in first place, the Cubs are not a real contender, and they're just trying to survive between now and the trade deadline and try to determine who they are. And I feel like at 49 and 53, we know who they are. We've been waiting for a run, like we saw in April, early in the season, Cap, and it just hasn't come. But Jed had a lot of things to say yesterday. - He did, he said a lot about how he doesn't want to be the story because there's, you know, discussion about his security with one year left on his contract and about adding on for this year as opposed to an eye on the future. He talked about the health of the organization, which I actually have told you this many times. I think they're in a fairly healthy spot long term because they have a top three farm system. But I still don't see a superstar down there. Like when they first got here with Theo, you knew Chris Bryant was gonna be a star. Rizzo had emerged as a star. Baez had started to emerge. Addison Russell started to emerge. Schorber started to emerge. Like you had a lot of guys that you thought were gonna be really good baseball players. I have no idea if Owen Casey down in the minors is gonna be good. I don't know if he's gonna be a star. They don't have a star on their Major League team, which I find offensive. How you, I don't, I would just like to know a couple of things. How the hell do you spend $227.6 million? Not have one star. There is not a star on that team of the position players. Justin Steele is a beast. Please explain to me how you spend that much money and for the second straight year, you enter a season without a closer. And don't you dare tell me. I don't mean you. I mean you people at 1060 West Addison, that Adburne Al-Zalay was your closer and he got hurt 'cause he's not good enough. So if you, Jen said yesterday, you heard him. I'm actually surprised we're in this position. I did not think we'd be in this position. You entered the season without a legitimate closer, without a great bullpen. To his credit, he keeps tinkering and I have the numbers here of what this bullpen has been over the last 21 games, a 1-1-3 ERA over 72 innings, 70 strikeouts, 20 walks, two homers, 18 inherited runners, none have scored. That's number one in baseball. Great, you have 18 blown saves. You saved half of them. Your dead ass team would be adding on 'cause you'd be right there for first. So it infuriates me that I invest my heart, invest my time. I'm a Cubs fan. I'm a die hard in addition to what we do for a living. And it just frosted me that you short-circuited that team. Last year you didn't add on when you kept everyone together. If you truly didn't think you were gonna get there, then you should have resisted the noise and traded Ballinger and whoever else. You didn't. Say you half-assed it. You fell a game short. Now this year, again, the definition of insanity Jonathan is watching the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Kisses me off. - Some thoughts from Jad Hore yesterday meeting the press. - Yeah, well, I was gonna say I think the next seven games, you know, obviously it mattered. Certainly we saw what can happen last year. So you sort of never firmly put your feet, you know, a plant your feet. You know, you have to be able to be nimble. But I think where we are right now, I would say that, you know, moves only for 24, I think unless things change over the next week, I think we probably won't do a lot of moves that only help us, you know, for this year. If moves help us, you know, in 25 and beyond, I think we're still exceptionally well positioned. I think that's, well, our focus will be, but like just helping in 24, I think that probably won't be our focus unless things change dramatically. - So we asked the question yesterday whether or not you buy, sell or stand pat. Well, that certainly didn't sound like buy. Didn't quite sound like sell. You know what it sounded like? It sounded like the rippling of the white flag. That's what it sounded like. - Yes. - That's what it sounded like. And by the way, that's the last thing a fan wants to hear is that when you're waving the white flag, yeah, unless there's something spectacular is gonna happen, we're just gonna be who we are. That's good enough. Another year of a non-play-off scenario. Let me just tell you something, Cap. Just think about the years that we saw the Cubs in the playoffs, even going back to when you were a kid in '69 to '84 to the lucky team of Zimmer, for the boys of Zimmer in '89, to what you saw in the late '90s to the run to the championship for the Cubs. Every one of those teams had a difference maker or multiple stars on it. - Correct. - Just think about it. Think about all the teams that you saw that were contenders, that were in the playoffs. Every one of them had a difference maker or star. What about this ball club? - Nothing. - But it's got the most payroll that you've ever seen, that you've ever seen that's trying to contend. We've seen higher payrolls from the Cubs, yes. We have seen them, right? Slightly. - Slightly. - But I guess the overarching point I'm trying to make is is that when you spend that kind of money, it's not about the amount of money you spend. Who are you spending it on? Like, I like, I like Shoda. Who doesn't like Shoda in Menaga? - Good player. - Who doesn't like Suzuki as far as the future, the steel guys like that. But again, when you have a lineup, and you outlined it yesterday, I wanna just bring it back to what you said yesterday. You know, five through nine, the Cubs don't scare anybody, nobody. One through five, okay, look out now. But even those guys have slumped. But when you look at the lineup, just from the numbers standpoint, five through nine, you're like, oh, that's the easy walk in the park. Just think about it. But that's what you're spending your money on. That kind of offense were five through nine in that lineup almost on a daily basis. Ah, there's be Swanson's in there, no problem. You have to play Master of Boney, no problem. That's what you have, but yet it's the worst catching situation that I can remember with the Cubs, quite frankly. - You're starting. - So. - You are starting a third baseman in Miles Master of Boney, who wouldn't start on any serious team in baseball. - That's correct. - Nobody. You wanna have him as a depth piece, and he comes in on the ninth, whatever. He's your starting third baseman a lot. I mean, come on, you look at the Braves and look at the Dodgers. Those are serious teams. - Yep. - The Dodgers are gonna come at you with Otani, Mookie Betz, and Freddy Freeman. - Oh, yeah, every night. - Every night. - Mm-hmm. - Guess what? We're gonna come at you with Nico Horner. He's okay, nice player. He's okay. Michael Bush, nice player. - Yeah. - And Suzuki. I don't see a Freddy Freeman. I don't see a Shohei Otani or a Mookie Betz. Okay, they're at a different level. They deferred a bunch of money, so it skews their payroll, but they're the best. I get it. Okay, how 'bout the Atlanta Braves? Madison, Aussie Albeys, Austin Riley. I mean, Acuna, Ozuna, Arcea. I mean, come on, man. Sean Murphy. - Yeah, you take a deep breath if you're the opposition, right? You're in the other dugout like, "Okay, there's just no let up. "We gotta pitch to him now. "We gotta pitch to him now." When you see the Chicago Cubs coming, and this is no shot at Talkman, but that's a guy that's not gonna kill you. Dansby Swanson, Mastroboni, Amaya, Pete Crow Armstrong. That's the whole problem, Cap. Again, the positive that you just laid out, and I saw the same thing from Campka as well on Twitter, of how the bullpen has turned the corner here. - They haven't actually won credits for that. - Starters have always been pretty solid, but you can't win in this league, man, hitting like that. Man, you scratched out three runs, and you beat the Brewers, the first place team yesterday, but you're not the net-yose royals. When you're gonna button sacrifice your way to wins, you're not that. And especially with that payroll, you can't win games two to one every night. - So let me ask you a question. If you're Tom Ricketts, and the season ends, and you're not in the playoffs, and you don't add on, and you call Jeddon Carter in for their meeting. Okay, guys, what's the plan here? How is this getting fixed? 'Cause I'm not extending their contracts. I can promise you that. They haven't earned it. This isn't about nice guy he is. It isn't about eloquent he is. Guess what? This is a results-based business, and you have failed. This is Chicago Freakin' Illinois, one of the top four markets in sports. New York, Boston, Philly, Chicago. And guess what? You don't have a star. You spent a fortune in money. Please explain to me how you're fixing this thing. You got over 80 million coming off the books. How are you fixing this thing? Because if we're sitting here next year going, "Well, we're just another year away." No! No! You are paid to win championships and to contend for them. You are doing neither. You are a middling Kansas City, small market, Minneapolis, Detroit style club. And that's offensive. - There's no question about that. It's not about it. I would just ask, since the Cubs are just gonna stand still, based on what Jed said yesterday, Cap, it sounds like the Cubs are gonna stand still. So then, what are you gonna do in the off season? Because now you're going back to, what, 2018, 2019, in which, well, we like our core. We're not gonna make any changes. What changes what core? Well, I'm just saying, if you're gonna stand Pat, you're not gonna buy, you're not gonna sell. That means you like the players that you have. Those guys still under contract. They're still professionals. But then you're waiting for a breakthrough that's not there. You're starting pitching is good enough. Yeah, you gotta do something with your bullpen again, next season, no doubt. You still need a real closer. Where are you getting one? I'm just saying. Like, when you stand still and you wave the white flag, then what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? That's the question I have for you. I don't know how that question gets answered satisfactorily to Mr. Ricketts, to Tom. There you go, Nick. How do you answer that question? Well, here's our plan and here's how we're gonna fix it. Why should I believe that that team is gonna be that much better next year? That's- Give me a reason. That's it. That's what I mean. If you're not going to pair back, like some teams would do. Some teams would take a step back to take two steps forward the following year. There was a guy out there as a closer who was available. His name is Josh Hader. He pitched for counsel. Now, unless Craig told Jed, "No, I don't want him." He's not good enough. You're cheaped out. Because I'm looking at his numbers, he started slow and now he's got a 0.98 whip. He's three and five with 20 saves. You think he might have been a better decision than Hector Neris or Adbert Alzalai? Your damn right he would have been. So I want someone to tell me if we have our quote unquote exit meetings at the end of the year, I gave you $230 million. Please explain to me how you are going to take 80 million in available money. I pulled up their payroll for this year. Coming off the books, 16, five to Kyle Hendricks. He earned it. It was a long term deal. Okay. Drew Smiley, 10 and a half. That's offensive. That guy gets that much money. He was fine last night. He did a nice job. 10 and a half million? Come on. That's 27 million. You got nine from Neris coming off. That's 36 million. You got five and a half from David Bodie. That's 41 and a half million. 2.7 on wisdom. That's 44 million. Two million from Talkman. That's 46 million. You got five more million coming up the books that you had to give Hayward this year as his buyout 'cause the insane contract wasn't enough. And then you got money coming off. Alzalai mixed to one. Now Monte makes 1.9 retained payroll. Seven million, Trey Mancini. Six million, Jan Gomes. 3.2 for Tucker freaking Barnhart. I mean, what the? That's 80 million bucks, man. Off the books, right? Yeah. So explain to me, Jed, you're Tom. You're Jed. Explain to me, I'm Tom Ricketts. How is this getting fixed? Because I am not going to go through another year where we don't play at the level we're supposed to play at. You know, you're gonna fill those slots with the same type of ancillary players you just laid out there, right? The backups. You're gonna fill those slots with trying to figure out like the next Talkman that can fill in and you'd be a fourth outfielder for your fifth outfielder for you. Or they'll re-sign them. Or maybe, yeah, possibly. I'm just saying, like, those are, with that money, you got to fill the bill in the roster. The next David Bodie, two catchers. Like, that's what it is. But here's the thing, none of that money is going towards like this big fish and free agency. That money will be used to be able to fill out the rest of the roster. Think about it. You're gonna spend that money, like, you're 80 off the books, but you're gonna spend another, how much to be able to fill out the rest of the roster. If we had a press camera for it. You understand my question? Like, how do you fill out the rest? It's gonna be scrap you guys, second shelf guys, all right. We got our core, but we need to fill out the rest of the roster. So explain to me why you wouldn't be, okay, let me say this. If I was the owner of the team, I would have a press conference. Once the trade deadline passed and we did nothing. And it was evident we weren't going to the playoffs. I'm barring getting into a run. How would I handle that press conference? I'll tell you how I'd handle the press conference. - Yeah. - Get the press together. I'm gonna talk. What we watched this year is unacceptable. We gave Jed Heuer a lot of money. We believe in him, we're giving him his final year or firing him, whatever I would do. But I'm saying what I think they're gonna do. It is unacceptable to this great fan base that this team played as poorly as it did. So this off season, we will leave no stone unturned to fix this roster. Whatever the cost is, we are going to be aggressive. And if that doesn't work out, Jed is in the final year of his deal. Again, the family likes him. He's a really good guy. But this is about the win business, not the friend business. If we do not see significant improvement in this team, I will not hesitate to make changes. Sweeping changes, period. Because I've watched enough. We are not gonna rebuild again. We have been lousy for a while. And this city does not deserve that from this massive fan base that jams our ballpark. We had 120,000 over the weekend. 120,000 to watch you lose two or three to a crappy Arizona team. Enough. Put your freaking foot down and go, that's it. Period. I'm not gonna watch it. I wanna hear somebody talk like the owner of the Golden State Warriors. We're about winning championships. Period. I don't care what the rules are. I don't care what the restrictions are. That's our job. Figure it out. Or I'll find someone who will. - 3-1-2-3-3-2-E-S-P-N, 3-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our telephone number. There are several questions on the table, but number one, do you trust Jed Hoyer to lead the future of the Chicago Cubs? Well, if you miss Jed, we'll play it for you again, but we're talking about the Cubs. Cubs defeat Milwaukee yesterday by a score of three to one. But the point is, is that you're getting closer and closer to the deadline, and it seems like you could hear in the distance the rippling, the sound effect of the white flag in the distance for the Chicago Cubs team. Cap and Jay Hood, weekday warning, seven to 10. This is Cap and Jay Hood. They've beaten the traffic commute, so you don't have to. - I say no, say again, say something out on ESPN Chicago. - It's a Cap and Jay Hood Morning Show. On ESPN 1,000, and we are streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. Here's hoping that you're gonna have a great Tuesday. Right here on ESPN 1,000. Cap, how long has Jed Hoyer been in the job since Theo left? - Well, Theo left right after the pandemic. I think it was fall of 20 when Theo left. - Okay. I think that any time that you're underachieving as an organization, because the bottom line, especially in the big market, is to be able to win a championship. If you feel like you're far away from a championship, now one of these lucky things where you just happen to strike you at the right time like Arizona, and win a championship that way. Texas Rangers spent enough money to have bought themselves a World Series championship. Cap, if you're far away, if you are Jed Hoyer, you have to worry about whether or not you're going to be around. Seriously, I don't care that he was part of the championship team. Times have changed. Tom Ricketts has put out enough money for you to be able to at least contend. I can't say that he put out enough money to be able to win a World Series. But what I would say if I was a Cup fan is, I just want to be in the mix, and then you never know what's going to happen. And I just think that when you spend as much money as the Cubs have, and you are usually in last place, you're a non playoff team, I'm not sure that Jed has the stomach to be able to lead the future for the Chicago Cubs. When he talks about 2025 and turning the page, I thought he was premature. We came in the building talking about this this morning, Cap, like I wouldn't have said that an open mic. With my back against the wall at Rigley Field. I don't know if I would have said that. He pretty much said, you know, we'll see what happens. He's disappointed in the way the ball club's playing, but you can have a resurgence. We've been waiting for it. But what you just told everybody, the press and the fans like, yeah, we're good. We're done here. We're not adding on and we're not selling off any parts. So what are you? How are you to find Cubs baseball that way? That guys, he's going to be leading the future of the Chicago Cubs. What have you done lately? Not much. - Well, that's why I said to you that I looked at it and went, okay, if I'm the owner and I sit my guy down and I say, Jed, I appreciate everything you've done. You got one year left on your deal. How are you fixing this? How are you fixing it? Are they going to sign one soda? Why would one soda leave New York? He loves it there. It's not as though you can outbid the Yankees by a billion dollars. Okay, if the Yankees offer him 400 and you go to 410, he's going to go, I'll stay in New York. Where are you getting a star from? They believe it's on the roster. And I would say to Jed, I think you are what you are. You got Jeff Blausard in the Dansby Swanson deal. You kind of did because the thought was, Dansby Swanson is no longer going to be with the Atlanta Braves, a class organization. Then what's wrong with Dansby Swanson? - Right. - Well, I guess you could hide in that lineup of hairy, chested sluggers and just be a good glove man. Look, here's the thing. I'm not bashing Dansby Swanson because these are all professionals, Cap. They all have something that they can bring to the table. Pete Croon strong's fast. Amaya can be able to call a game. Dansby Swanson is a dandy little glove man. Talkman has made some big catches in the outfield. But again, it's more than just that. It's got to be more than one tool. It's got to be more than two tools if you're trying to really contend. Make sense? - It does, but explain to me how no one's able to do that. How is Jed going to fix this thing? Because if I'm the owner, you know, like Sean sends a tweet. Ricketts is just another version of Ryan's door. As long as the money and profits come in, it's all he cares about. - That's not true. - That's a stupid tweet, Sean. - Yeah, that's actually not true. - They're spending $227.6 million. They, oh, a manager's available? Here's another 40 million. Making the highest paid manager in the game. - What Sean does not know and far be it to me just to defend the Cubs. What I'm saying is, is that Sean Ricketts is actually closer to you than what you know. He's a fan too. He just has money, right? He's a businessman, sure. But he's a fan too, he's a fan first. - Now Jerry, the other way, that's a different story. Jerry's businessman first. He loves baseball, but Tom's a fan. And again, first, do I think they could spend more? - Absolutely. - The fact that you rebuilt twice in a 10 year span, that falls at Tom's feet. And I think that's ridiculous. - For you, Mr. Jed Hoyer yesterday with the press. - Yeah, well, I was gonna say, I think the next seven games, obviously it mattered. Certainly we saw what can happen last year. So you sort of never formally put your feet, a plant your feet. You know, you have to be able to be nimble. But I think where we are right now, I would say that moves only for 24, I think unless things change over the next week, I think we probably won't do a lot of moves that only help us for this year. If moves help us in 25 and beyond, I think we're still exceptionally well positioned. I think that's what our focus will be. But like just helping in 24, I think that probably won't be our focus unless things change dramatically. - So that was a statement yesterday. - Yeah, and what does change dramatically mean? So if you swept the brewers and then you get a day off, and then you swept the royals. The trade deadline's here. Next, a week from today. - Yeah. - Okay, let's assume you won seven in a row. I think you're at Cincinnati next. - Mm-hmm. - If you won seven in a row, now all of a sudden, you're gonna push your chips in the middle. - No! No! Shay said yesterday that maybe the narrative would be different if the Cubs would have won the series against Arizona. You didn't say that, Shay. - Yeah, if they would have swept them. - Well, if they would have swept them, definitely. But even if they just win that series, I think there'd be a little bit of a different narrative, especially coming off of a win last night against Milwaukee. - One game, that's how bad organizations stay bad. - Well, bad organizations also stay bad by half-ass buying when they shouldn't, like they did a year ago. - Or by not going into the attacks when you have a team you can win with, like they did this year. You keep talking about their eighth and payroll. - Oh, you said they have a team they can win with? - Did they not? In the preseason, they had opportunities to go in the attacks. We thought this was a team that could win the division. They declined. They took themselves out of multiple- - Right, and thank God they didn't sign that. - They didn't even want to spend it. - And they didn't want to spend it. - They didn't want to spend it. - They didn't want to spend it in Jordan Montgomery, who both have had bad years. - I'm just making the point to you, in the attacks, you keep mentioning top 10 and payroll. Well, they're the only top 10 team in payroll that's not in the luxury tax. They're the only one. 23 of the 227.6, whatever it is, is being spent on players who aren't here. We're buying out declined options from Cody Bellinger. - But explain to me who they were buying. They were never going to get launch Soto. I don't want that Chapman. Pass. - 31-year-old third baseman. - I don't know, there's only two guys of free agency. - No, I'm asking, who was out there? Who could they have had in the 2024 free agent class that they didn't get? They were never going to get Otani. Thank God they got Imunaga and not Yamamoto, who's now on the 60-day DL. - Just quickly, Matt Chapman, if we're going to keep dumping on him, 3.8 win player. If you had him on the team, you might be in the wildcard. - He's Matt Chapman was not putting you in the wildcard. - Okay. - It's 3.8 wins. - Well, when you asked, almost on behalf of the front office, who would you sign, then you get what you deserve, Cap. How about you? You get you and Cup fans get what you deserve. If you're saying, "Well, we weren't going to spend for Soto," and of course to the average fan is, I don't care how much it spends, I want to see my team win. - He wasn't a free agent. - Well, I'm just saying, a one Soto like player, a difference maker like that. What I'm saying is, is that, if you say, "Well, we're not going to spend money on this," and we didn't need these extra players in free agency, then you get what you deserve. - You get what you get, you get a team that's, that's flat, authentively. - Now, I will agree with you. - They could have definitely signed Josh Hader, 100%. He got 19 million a year. I think he got a five-year deal. Could have easily signed him. You got Cody Ballinger. - Yeah. - You didn't need more started pitching. Again, I had no interest in Matt Chapman. None. - Yamamoto's been good, but you're right. - Starting pitching was a strength. I'm telling you, man, do not let this team end up missing the wild card by four games and watch Matt Chapman be a five-win player. Do not let that happen because I will stand here and rail about it. I'll be furious. I said all off, see, I never told you Matt Chapman was God. I never said I'd pay him 10 years and $300 million, but I said I'd find a way to get him on this team 'cause right now you have Morrell who can't play third. And Matt Chapman's a 3.8-win player. You're three and a half out. Oh, figure out that, Matt. - Hmm, yeah. Yeah, again, he gets a lot of his war from his defense. Offensively, he's hitting 232 with 13 home runs and a 723 OPS. He's not the difference between you and the playoffs. - He'd fit right in here. - He'd be great defensively at a position where you badly need a glove. - Okay, and if he's playing there, you're taking the 18 home runs Morrell has more than this guy, by the way, off the team or out of the lineup. That's just a fact. He's not the difference between you going to the playoffs. Matt Chapman at age 32 or whatever he is. Yeah, pass. This is not a good enough team. Jen has not constructed a good enough team. And when you enter a season without a legitimate closure, again, but think you have a chance to go to the playoffs, shame on you. And your team can't hit, is that part of the equation or not? - Agree? - Well, and then what are you going to do about that? I mean, you can tell me about pitching and because it's all part of it, Kat, but we cannot turn a blind eye to a ball club that can't hit five through nine. It's a problem. - Agree? - And the situational hitting is not good. It's not good enough to make you, I mean, people can break down the numbers. But the number I care about is the wins and the losses and where you are in the wild card. That should be the emphasis. Everyone breaks down all the numbers and crunches all the numbers and all this other stuff. But I think too, the average fan, like me, I care about whether or not the team's winning or losing. And it's not looking good. So do you trust Jed Hoyer to lead the future of the Cubs? I mentioned there's two things along with this Cubs thing. That's one, do you trust Jed Hoyer to lead the future of the Cubs? But that's something else that we're not talking about regarding this Cubs team and the dynamic of the Cubs team. We'll get it to that, tell me up next. Along with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you, Captain J. Hood, weekday morning, seven to 10. Checkmate 1-6 landing of suppression on target. That's why I see him in my shot. Shot or no shot with Captain J. Hood on ESPN 1000 and ESPN Chicago app. That's why I see him in my shot. Good morning and welcome in to the Captain J. Hood Morning Show on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. What David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you, now time for a shot or no shot brought to you by him. That would be ESPN bat live in Illinois. Download the ESPN bat app, get $100 in free bats when you make any sports book bat bat. We take it morning to Shay Winger in Ireland. Good morning boys. How are we feeling on a Tuesday? We're good, man. I'm getting to be here with you guys. Yeah, it's a good day. I like the idea that I can go around the Major League Baseball package and find good baseball. Right before bed, a little Dodger's last night. A little Dodger. I did the two recaps that I passed out. No, no, no, no, no. There's always money making opportunities, pal. So that's fine. Well, I'm telling you what I was doing. I'm not going to worry about what you're doing. How do you get the stamina, aren't you tired? No. No. I'm the energizer bunny, but I was wiped. No, the Morning Show energizes me. Are you kidding me? A little Dodger, San Francisco. Very good game, by the way. Dodger giant last night. Dodger's went 3-2. Dodger money line. Got to watch the investment. Are you kidding me? When you've worked at night, for what, 15 years or whatever, that whole scene was happening on the West Coast, never leaves you. It doesn't leave me. Not that entire game. Yeah, when I was working nights, I was like you. I'd be up till 1-2 in the morning watching whatever late night game and then sports center. Yeah, but I mean, not the entire game. I'm not a maniac. But I am going to just check in every now and then. And eases you into the nightcap. Little West Coast baseball, nice and quiet. Dodger stadium. Dodger's a good pitching duel. Is she all watching with you? She's fast asleep. Or she's watching some on Facebook. And you said you had your Dodger money line. Guess what? The other day, I put together a really good parlay. Six legs. My wife said, who are you betting on? I read her how I handicapped it. She's like, you're going to lose. I said, why? She goes, you have the Cubs in there over the Diamondbacks. Oh, Saturday. I went five and one. The only game I lost was the Cubs. I still haven't heard the end of it. You don't have to share all everything with everybody. That's the problem. She's not on your side, Cap. Broodal, Cap. She's not on your side. She doesn't treat you well. Here's Shane Norley. She's the best. No, she does not treat you. I've been saying it for years. She's the best. As a friend, I'm telling you, she was the-- she's supposed to be your good luck charm. Honey, I hope that you will get your parlay. You're going to lose. She said, I hope you do, but you're going to lose. Don't bet on the Cubs. That's the worst. She was right. All right, Shane. All right, let's get started. Shot or no shot. Bears training camp. Definitely under a microscope this offseason, but the news coming out of Hallis Hall has been overwhelmingly positive so far. What's happening in there? Little speaker action. Yesterday, Matt Eberfloos talks about the new offensive cadence. There were some struggles at minicamp. But now, he said it's been awesome. How well they're getting into and learning new snap counts. How well they're getting in and out of the huddle. And Eberfloos said it is all a testament to Caleb Williams, entirely on him. The effectiveness of the cadence and getting in and out of the huddle, getting into the snap. All of it to Caleb. Shot or no shot. Matt Eberfloos is taking yet another shot at Justin Field. Shot. Oh. Shot. I mean, come on, he's just telling you what he sees. This is all credit to Caleb. Yeah, they made their choice. And I told the cult members in November, they're done. They're done with Justin. Absolutely not. They're getting the haul. They're trading. Oh, the old haul. Yeah, how'd that haul work out for you? Hello. The backup quarterback in Pittsburgh. And Caleb Williams is the guy with the plan in his hand, ready for the bear. What's that? The plan in his hand. Oh, see. Go ahead. And did you see the quotes from a Demarcus Walker yesterday talking about how the national and LA media, he said, shame on them how they talked about this kid. Get to know him. Sit down with him in the cafeteria and you'll find out what a good kitty is and how hard he works. And then Keenan Allen said, they both stayed at the hotel right by the practice facility during minicamp. They'd watch the NBA finals together and they would quiz each other. All right, here's the play call. And you had to go up on a board and draw it. He said, this kid knows everything about our offensive playbook. I love it. I would say that's a no shot, Che. I mean, I think there's two different things he's talking about there. It's not a direct shot at Justin Fields. I think he's just kind of telling you that that's the way it's supposed to look. More so than just throwing Justin Fields on the bus. That's the way it's supposed to look. To be able to command and to huddle and all the things the quarterback's supposed to do. Che. Yeah, I'm with you, hoodie. Cap came in on fire about Eber Flus taking shots at Fields. I think Eber Flus is just saying, we struggled with this at minicamp. We're not struggling with it anymore. Caleb's done a great job. That's exactly right. And so it will happen. Cap will be straightened out by somebody at House Hall. He'll get a text and he'll have to do an about face about that. Here's Che, Norley. Aaron Rodgers was asked-- I was told that he was not a shot at Justin Fields, Jay. You're wrong. I didn't say that he went to the podium intending to take a shot. It is just perceived that way. Yeah. He'll do it about face. Don't worry about Che. Just bookmark it. No shot. Go right ahead. Aaron Rodgers joined the part in my take podcast this week. He was asked about his opinion on the bears this season and said he actually likes them. Aaron Rodgers. It is Robbie. He's on TV back there. Robbie Gold's on TV. Listen, you and I are good friends now because you're out of my life. And I wanted to do this interview just to be like, thank you. You're out of my life. Let's start. But then the bears lost to Jay Love and the Packers twice last year. I got some other issues I'm dealing with that are not-- it doesn't pertain to you anymore. I got other issues. I'm working through that. I found new love. We got new-- we got a new quarterback. I'm going to figure out-- How are we feeling? Feeling good about Caleb and all the changes. So good. And Andre Swift and-- You like him, you like him. You think Caleb's a good quarterback. Yeah, I do. Yeah. I like Swift. They're like Keenan. DJ. I like the receiver from Washington. Yeah, Rome. Oh, and then, of course, you got-- so I got DJ. Yeah, DJ. So-- And you were flustered. I think the team is almost good enough to beat the Packers. You got out at the right time. Almost good enough. Come on. Well, you got out at the right time. You knew that it was changing. So you're like, I got to get out of here. I don't know about that. So you can finish with your-- Who do you got on defense? Montez. Montez. Yeah, Montez, Sweatt. Our secondary's pretty good. I like Edmunds and the other player. We're going to be-- And I know that you're-- I think it'd be a close game with the Packers. I don't like going to do it enough. Do you still take any pleasure when the Packers beat the Bears? Are you like kids? Oh, yeah, I love it. Yeah, love it. But you're a jet now. Once you're a jet, you're a jet all the way. So there you go. Bears almost good enough to beat the Packers in Aaron Rodgers' mind. Shot or no shot. If you gave Aaron Rodgers' truth serum, he'd say the Bears are good enough to beat the Packers. That's a shot. He'll never admit it because he's a Packer at heart. I get it, but I completely believe he's looking going, wow. He got something going on there at Chicago. I think that if you were still at the Packers, he wouldn't feel that way. I think he's been that good against the Bears that no matter who they put against them, he would find a way. I think that he is admiring what the Bears are doing, but not to the point where he thinks that the Packers are low because you mentioned J. Love. You mentioned him. He said he beat him twice, didn't he? So I think that he feels strongly that the Packers could still be able to beat the Bears. That's what I believe. He's just that daft that he believes that anybody can do it. I mean, seriously, I mean, I think he's a J. Love guy. I think he believes that J. Love can do it again. Another two wins against the Bear. No matter who the Bears have, Caleb Williams, he asks who's on the defense, Montez Sweatt, he likes the linebackers. Yeah, it is amazing. He still asked Green Bay questions. That guy's a jet. All the questions should be about, hey, man, so you're such the great quarterback that you could just miss Minnie Camp. You say that it's about football, but yet it's not about football for you, but it's gotta be for everyone else. It's just a, he's just a weird individual. He'll never win a championship again. But I don't think he gets to ask Green Bay questions except by our guy, Big Cat. Which is cool 'cause Big Cat lives here now. He's back home. And McAfee. Yeah, he doesn't ask you too many Bear questions, though. Oh, you like the McAfee every day. I'm a, you know, I like, I find Aaron compelling to watch and listen to. Whatever he's talking about. I like him. I don't cheer for him. Hated him when he was a packer quarterback, but I do think he's an interesting interview. And I think he gets asked that because Big Cat's a bear. Still holding out hope for that one-on-one Aaron Rodgers, huh? I don't want the interview. I want dinner. Oh, yeah, so you don't want to talk to him on the record? I don't need to. I want to just sit down and have dinner with him and talk about whatever. That's about right. Okay. All right, some news this morning. What is that tapping noise, by the way? Is anybody else hearing that or is that my headphones? No, I hear it. I don't know what it is. It sounded like Cap was tapping his mic. It was starting to frustrate the hell out of me. All right, my hands have not moved. They're right here. Sorry, moving on. There was, just say it was bothering me. Well, I, well, if you want an answer, I can give you an answer. Say, would you like one? Would love one. Okay, this table is loose. It is. See that? Oh, that's what it is. Say, that's what it is. It's a loose mic. Our mics are not tight. Damn. If you're part of the expression, that's a problem. That's why when you hear Cap, I don't understand why the cops are. And that's why it sounds like that. My hands are like, like, they're not moving. I mean, hoodie, I swear, I thought Cap was like. No, it was driving me nuts. I'm sorry, let's move on. Uh, shot or no shot. Uh, shot. Some news this morning on the West Side. United Center owners, Rhinestor from the Wertz family, planning massive $7 billion mixed use campus around the arena. It would include a music hall, housing, park, pedestrian friendly spaces as a 10 year development project to overhaul the parking lots around the United Center. This is not a bash Rhinestorf bash Wertz family thing because they're doing something good. They're paying for this all privately. There is not expected to be a public tax, ask none of it. But it brings me to my question, the fact that they can afford to do this privately shot or no shot, we'd like to see some of that money go into the teams. That's a shot. It's always about the team first. You want to have this philanthropy and try to do things outside of sports. That's fine, but ultimately I want to see championships. I want the money spent on increasing your chances to win a championship. That's always first for me. I'm a sports fan, after all. Yeah, I think the Hawks are going to spend at the cap or right there. As they should. This is more about the Bulls than it is about the Black Hawks. The Black Hawks I think are building something real. Yeah, the Hawks won three cups. Now they're rebuilding, I get it. The fact that the Bulls and White Sox are two of the more pitiful franchises going in their respective sports, that's unfortunate. That falls right at one man's feet, Jerry. That's a fact. We turn now to native West Sider, Jay Moore, with the rest of this story, a West Side, with the green space, mixed income housing and music hall and more. That sound something that should happen on the West Side. Absolutely, we definitely need it. Yeah, absolutely. Mixed income housing and a music hall and more so, I'll try to figure out what that looks like. Are they trying to recreate the next Rosemont with housing? I mean, Rosemont is pretty nice. It is. Rosemont's awesome. It is. No question about it. That would be so good on the West Side. That would be so good on the West Side. My wife even, she's like, "Mayor Stevens has done an awesome job." But you understand the question I'm asking, is that the kind of, I'm trying to envision what that looks like. Is that what it kind of looks like? I mean, based on the description. Well, they don't have the housing in Rosemont that I think this is going to have. Mm-hmm. Well, exactly. I'm just saying with a music hall, that's what I'm talking about. Like, in a green space, all these things just fan friendly. They have the green space in Rosemont where they do, I think like every Thursday night, they have yoga and Pilates. They do a lot of cool stuff. Concerts out there. They have a bunch of cool restaurants. We've been there with the station for Joe's Live and Bubs City. So yeah, super cool, man. 63,000 construction jobs, according to the Peace and the Sun times. It's a lot. It's a lot to the community. And they're paying for it? All good. 2,000 permit jobs. Really good. Them paying for it is the big thing for me. As long as you're not asking for taxes, because then you always question, is it going to get done in the amount of time that you say, is it going to look the way that you say it's going to look? But right now you drive over to the United Center and like you come out of the beautiful West Loop area into the United Center District, it kind of looks dumpy. It's just run down parking lots and chain link fence. And Jerry and Rocky paid for the United Center themselves. And that thing has held up the test of time. That thing is gorgeous still. I'll still be able to park there, right? I mean, you're not going to take away too many of my parking spaces. I still be able to get some good parking space in there, right? I think a parking facility is on the list of things that's going to be added here as well. Super cool. Just concern. I want to make sure that you're not taking away one of my prime spaces for this whole project. You know, it's the great myth of the parking lot, because you have all these spaces that people buy up the lot and then they just hang onto it and Jerry bought back a lot of those lots. But if you build a parking structure and stack them, it takes up less space. Imagine that. That's correct. That's actually correct. If you stacked up your spot, it's not as much space, but if you do that in the West side. Maybe our tourists will get you a spot over the advocate center around the NFL is coming up next Albert Breyer with the latest surround the NFL with this as well at 835. Captain Jay Hood on Chicago's home for sports. If you missed something, get the podcast on the ESPN Chicago app. Jeff and Jay Hood are back on Chicago's home for sports. ESPN Chicago. Nick Bolz sucks. He sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football evaluator. I love the Green Bay Packers. The guy is from. But there he goes. This is not Detroit. Man. This is the Super Bowl. I will win it. He starts the comedy. This is a really thickly built guy. I mean, what's the answer you're looking for on these things here? It's time to go around the NFL right here on the Captain Jay Hood Morning Show on the ESPN 1000 and stream me on the ESPN Chicago app with you till 10 o'clock then Mike Greenberg comes in at 10. Courtney Yerko and 12 Waddle and Sylvie 230 to 630 into White Sox baseballs to take on the Rangers a 630 pregame right here on the home of the White Sox ESPN 1000 Blucking Abdullah. They will be on YouTube YouTube.com. Look for Blucking Abdullah on their YouTube channel around the NFL with shade. All right. Jordan Love dominating the NFL headlines today is he's not practicing. This is not a huge surprise. He doesn't have a contract. So he's not going to practice to start training camp for the Green Bay Packers in the sticking point reportedly in the contract negotiations is not structure. It is money, which leads me to believe the Packers aren't willing to pay Jordan Love through the nose despite Trevor Lawrence, who had a worse season getting paid at the height of Joe Burrow. Tell me I'm crazy. If I were the Packers, this is what I would do. I would sit down with Jordan Love, I'd offer him a three year $170 million extension, 80 percent guaranteed with a fourth year option that vests. However, you want to structure it, whatever he needs to accomplish to get the fourth year option to vest gives me the safety that I'm out of it before five, six seasons in while also confirming, I believe you're the guy and I'm going to pay you $1 million more dollars than Trevor Lawrence. Three years, 170 million guarantee 80 percent of it, vest a fourth year, however you want to do it. Do you have to go that high? Yes. I'm paying you $1 million more dollars per year than Trevor Lawrence. Ooh, it's the old favorite nation's clause, making a dollar or in this case, a million dollars more than Trevor Lawrence. That's, boy, you better be right, you're betting big. It's only three years, you get out of it. Doesn't matter, if you can tell me it's only three years, it's $170 million dollars. You're going to spend it anyway, if the NFL, you got to spend at the cap. You wouldn't do that, huh? I would try and get him for a smaller number, I'm not saying a lot smaller, but if I could get him, if I'm only doing three years, well, that's going to come around awfully quick. If I truly believe in him, I'd probably go see if I could get him for 200. You could offer it, he wouldn't accept it, though, because all of this is about potential. Every bit of this is about potential. We know how ridiculous these numbers are for these quarterbacks cap. We're talking about guys that have not even stripped this, scratched the surface of being able to get to the Super Bowl, but they're getting paid handsomely anyway. You don't think he'd take four for 200? I'm not, I don't know, I just- 200 million dollars with 115, 120, and guarantees. You know the growing rate for 30, whatever the number is? You know the growing rate for quarterbacks, I'm just saying like it is stupid money that's out there. No, it's insanity. So, but I mean, you can ask, I'm not sure if you would accept. I think also the story about this is him and a Holden, if this was a Chicago bear, you'd be hitting the roof. Yeah, I would. And it has sound red-ic. They just announced this morning not even going to show it camp for the jet. I just think if I'm a Packer fan, it's not saying that they won't resolve and come up with something, but I'm saying like this is an important season for not just the Packers but also love. You want to make sure that you have exactly the genuine article. You saw it last year. Can he be better the next year? In year two as the full-time starter? And now you got this hold up with the contract with the sit-in, he's at the facility, right? But he's in all the meetings. He's just not going to get out in the field and take a chance on getting hurt. Okay. That's nuts. I'll bet it gets done today or tomorrow. That's probably true. And I will also bet he's going to be the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. That's how that works. There'll be number one on an average annual value basis. Yeah. Who is the highest right now? Joe Burrow and Trevor Lawrence, both at 55. I would bet anything that Jordan Love comes out of this making 56 million a year. And think about this... Don't let me like that. That's what it is. You should see what he's looking at. He's looking at me like you're crazy. Of course he is. Because he still doesn't understand the quarterback market. No, I do. I'm giving him 50 million, 56 million for Jordan Love. Well, you better be right. If you're willing to give 50, what's 56? Really? In a hard-capped world, it's a lot. And 2-0 says I like to have a word. He'll be next. They're saying that they're not going to extend him. They're not. He's toast. He said we're not talking to you. But his people are going to ask. They already did. They said we want Jared Goff money and the Dolphins said F off. No shot. How much did Goff get? 52. 53. That sound right for Jared Goff? Yeah. That's the price to do it. So what's wrong with it? Imagine this were the Bears and you just had a quarterback go out throw for 4,200 yards basically. 32 touchdowns, only 11 interceptions from week 11 on led the league in touchdown to interception ratio. He's gone for one year. Goes on the road, bombs the cowboys and has one season left under contract and is negotiating with the team and there's a sticking point for money. As fans, all of us would go just paying for the love of Christ, paying. J Moore. Where's my home? He's in the 40s, right? He's underpaid, vastly underpaid. Yeah, I would probably offer him somewhere around the 40s. I mean, I wouldn't put him at the 50s, I'm sorry. No, no, the market acts for it. But J Moore, the problem with using my homes is my homes is going to have more money very shortly. They're going to restructure his deal to make it fair. That's been reported. Yeah, but it's about the now. I will say like the best quarterback in the league is making this and this is what I'm offering. Trevor Lawrence gets 55, it doesn't matter. I'm better than Trevor Lawrence if I'm Jordan Love, payment. That's fair. Right. Right. That's fair. We look at this in the prism of football and sports because that's what we do. But think about if it's business, you're going to let somebody make more money than you. Do you know that you're better than that guy? Again, if you're Jordan Love, it's about potential. Jordan Love, don't you think Jordan Love is a better quarterback than Trevor Lawrence? Yeah. Okay. All right. We'll see. We'll see more than a year. Yeah. At least what he showed in the second half of last season, he looked better. I mean, Lamar's at 52, Hertz is at 51, Herbert's at 52, five, Goughs at 53, and Burrow and Lawrence. I cannot make him the highest paid quarterback. I just can't do it. We'll be though. The only two guys on that list that matter are Gough and Lawrence because they're the two that signed this off season. That's it. Like it does whatever Hertz and Lamar signed for was an off season ago. They don't matter anymore. The price of milk is gone up. But again, like when I watched the commentary from Jalen Brunson in a different sport, he said I studied Brady and I studied Jeter and there was a third big time athlete. He said those guys took less because they wanted to be able to add more talent because they are about winning. Great. Let's be clear. Jalen Brunson got tricked. And Brunson's a dope. Ha. Price wins off. Brunson got tricked. And I disagree with you that he got tricked because he would not have gotten any of that money this off season. He had to wait a year and he went, I'll take 156 guaranteed right now. We can keep our team together and I will get my money down the road. I don't not think he got tricked. You're not negotiate with terrorists because we're worse owners in sports. You want to do it with under that ownership? No. Paul Brunson went and took the cheese from a historically cheap awful owner. That's what he did. He got tricked. He got doped. I don't think he did because he would have not got any more money this off season. Yeah. But next season he would have got 250 million more basically. No, 113 more like you're leaving that amount of money on the table because he's going to get a bigger extension by not taking it. How? He got 156 guaranteed dollars that he wouldn't have gotten. And he left 113 million that he would have. He would have gotten it a year if he played again at the level he's at and stayed healthy. To get bounced in the second round, baby, no, maybe bouncing the second round. There's nothing against Tom. It's just in this at ownership cap. You don't win as a try hard team. You win with talent. Ask the Celtics. They've added a lot. They're good. The Knicks have a pretty good team now. Are they on the Celtics level? The answer's no because that's the bully on the block. Maybe we might be right. And that my friends is a look around the NFL right here on cap and Jhood. Team USA is proving they aren't even close to the dream team. We explain that coming up next on the cap and Jhood morning show.