Kap & J. Hood
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Hood Morning Show, our ESPN 1000 and we're streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you, we've got Shay, we've got Jack, we've got you for a three hour ride on this Waggle Wednesday with open phone lines for you at 3.1.2. 3.3.2 ESPN, 3.3.2, 3.7.7.6 is our telephone number here on this rainy Wednesday and cap, boy, what a day for you, that only do you do a award winning show on Tuesday with me, you bring flowers home to Mindy, good night Mindy, take that, here's some beautiful flowers for you, but then you go to the gym and you put on your whistle and there you are coaching. And a game yesterday, and I don't know, I don't know if you saw it was on the bottom line here on Sports Center, the final score of the game in which your team won. I don't know what the score was, we just went out and competed, played hard, kids were amazing. Yeah. I don't understand what you mean, you don't know what the score was. I mean, I mean, it's a sports, you still play the game one way, hoodie, the right way. Yes, we go out and compete defensively, we set a tone by really getting after the ball handler. Yeah, and we're on selfish offensively, we push the tempo. We don't look at the scoreboard, we just play the game one way all in. Well, in the game of life, if not the game with sports, it is about winning and losing. You have to find out where you are. We knew we won, we knew we dominated. Oh, good. So was the final score. I'm sorry. Final score. What? 40 to four. Pardon me? What was the final score? 40 to four. 40 to four, the final. Back with more in a moment, a cab radio network, that's what happened. You beat the ball club 40 to four, the competition that your team faced. You won 40 to four, you say, we did. Huh. Well, how'd you do that? Kids played great, man. They did. Damon, I think it's size, you pronounce his last thing. Damon had 14 Avery Zetterman, knocking down shots, got two steals, went down the court and laid them in. It was super cool, man. Yeah, I don't understand why you weren't sure of the score. I mean, I this think that's that's odd. 40 to four, you say the final, but was there more scoring than that? Was it more than just 44 points scored in the contest? To your knowledge. So I wasn't sure what the score was because when we went up 20 to four. 24. OK. 20 to four. They stopped putting the score up there. Who's they? I don't understand. Scorekeeper. The scorekeeper stop takes you to the left. Did she go to Bathroom? No, lunch. What happened there? They they stop. Huh, she keeps the scorebook. Like I have the the breakdown here. Yes. I want all the kids to get their credit. We have OK, what are you laughing at? No, really, that's amazing. Well, hold on a second. I mean, Aaron LaVoy, Zetterman in Candela, Zymal, Pajoscis, Pavic, weed, Downing, Prado, Zygorski. Everybody on the on the roster got a taste at the basket. It sounds like it. But I'm confused on you're not sure what the final score was. You say the lady walked away from the scores table. No, I say she walked away. She just stopped putting points up for us on the scoreboard. That's a league rule. And I think they don't want to embarrass the kids, which is smart. I wholeheartedly cosign it. This is why you've lost the fire. I mean, it's one thing for you to say, yeah, I'll never coach again. And now you're back to coaching. OK, that's just you. I mean, I mean, whichever way the wind blows. Kids are so much fun to be around there. Awesome. That's fine, Cap. But let's get back to the story here. The story that we're talking about here is that the lady looked at the score you dominating both ends of the floor and says, I'm going to stop putting up numbers. No more points for you on the board. Wait a minute. The other team has got to be able to score two. What I'm saying is is that if you can't do anything about it, you take your beating and you go home. I've been on the other end of it. It's no fun when I was back coaching. Yeah, in the 80s. Well, no, when I was coaching my kids in Little League, I was coaching Alex's team. Yeah, we were down like 19 to two. And they're stealing on us in the seventh inning. And I got tossed because I was yelling at the other coach. I'm like, dude, 19 to two in the seventh. And we're stealing. Deal with it, he told me. That's right. Do some about it. And I went at the Empire and I got tossed. Cap, they turned the scoreboard off. Which I'm fully supportive of, fully supportive. Can I just tell you something? If you're not coaching, you would think that's an outrage. The old school cap would have said, A, you don't want us to score, stop us, take that. But now, grandfatherly cap says, it's OK. Everyone gets a participation trophy. It's OK. Back after this. You're all right with it? No, it's not that it's a participation trophy, but it was we got a really good team, man. Those kids play their tail off. Would you have liked to know, do you have the actual final score? Do you know how, actually, how many points you scored total? I mean, besides the 40? No, that's what we scored. Is that the total? But the scoreboard only said 20 to four. [LAUGHTER] Oh, that's just fun. I just think it's funny. That's all. She turned the scoreboard off. OK, that's enough scoring. Take that. How about the other team? But did the same size as your ball club? We were just bigger and stronger. Big and stronger. Yeah, yeah. Their coach, really nice guy Jason. He's a police officer. He really tries to hard with those kids. They're running their play. Like, I thought, I'm like, wow, look at that. Like, I thought he did a really good job. It just-- I got some really good players. I wouldn't-- Like GM? Yeah. Zetterman. Yeah. Put a good team together. Mm-hmm. So I would ask, so what do you think the other team learned from playing your ball club? That we're really good. [LAUGHTER] Oh, god. That's not the answer I was looking for. [LAUGHTER] I just want to know, because you learn from that, right? You say, OK, we've got to work harder. We've got to just mature and get better. Yeah, they're going to get-- They're going to get physically-- That's stronger. That's all. They're going to get-- they've got to develop physically. OK. So, Shay, you hear this, as a cap-- and no surprise that cap is flourishing as a head coach. He's had plenty of time to sit back and just watch how it's done. He's playing Doberman Defense against 10-year-olds, by the way. That's exactly what he's doing. He's John Box, he's text winner. He's putting the Doberman Defense on, just taking his kid down. So should the scoreboard have been shut off? No. They didn't wear it. They're 10-year-olds. [LAUGHTER] I was a kid, I got-- That's funny. I was in bad spots like that playing youth baseball. You've got to wear it. You've got to feel it. And then you remember what that felt like, and it never happens again. They felt it. Did they? Yes. Could you see it? I mean, you're focused on your team. But did you see the other team? Would you see their response, their feeling? Yeah, yes. [LAUGHTER] Do you feel bad? You don't feel bad about the score, do you? It seems like you feel a little bad about it. He was embarrassed to admit it. I think you should say it with your chest. 40 to 4, we beat the hell out of him. I think someone that goes around on a daily basis telling people to take that, I think it's very interesting that you take them-- What do you want me to turn to the police officer head coach the other end who could kick my ass and go, hey, Jason, take that. Yeah, I mean, that's who you are. All of a sudden, now I'm modeling. I feel bad. I beat your team. I feel bad. No, no, no. You're take that. You always take that. What's better in that spot if you're the opposing coach? You walk up the cap and get a pat on the hand and a good game coach or just-- Rough night kid, take that. [LAUGHTER] I'm just saying that if you're going to be maximum, take that all in every aspect of your life, including your wife and your family and our listeners and sports figures, you know, contrarous, like everybody. Yeah. You can't-- everyone can take that except the team that you faced. Feel bad for you. [LAUGHTER] And I dropped the-- I mean, I gave it to Mindia, take that Sunday because we came home from being out of town. Yeah. We had a cooler food that we took from Wisconsin and brought it home because otherwise it gets wasted. It sits in the fridge and it spoils. Yeah. So we come home with it. Where are-- there were some pastries they had bought up there that our son Garrett said, can you bring those home? Yeah. We packed up the cooler, brought it back, and she had the pastries in a bag. Yes. She moved the pastries into the cooler, unbeknownst to me, because to our drive she wanted a mistake cooler. Sure. We come in and she's looking around for the bag with the pastries. Here are the pastries. I said, hon, I don't-- I don't have them. All over me. Yeah. All over me. And I said, maybe they're in the cooler. She said, well, if they're in the cooler, you would have been the one that put them in there. I said, I haven't touched that cooler. Only thing I did was take it off the ground and put it in because it's heavy. Yeah. And take it out. I haven't opened it. She's like, there's no way they're in the cooler. If you didn't put them in there, then you left them up there. I'm getting accused, of course. She opens the cooler and they're right there. That's right. Right there. And she's like, oh, wait, I think I put them in right before we pulled out. Oh. I said, take that. I want an apology now. And? Sheepishly, she gave me that she did give you one exactly. You give it to you immediately as you asked for sheepishly, because you are the you're the one you're the victim at all costs every time it's you. She hasn't treat you well. I've said that for years. But think about this. But again, the question still stands about the 16 points. Is it too early to stop keeping score in a youth basketball game? I say tongue in cheek that it's interesting how that all worked. I'm just glad that your team won. But it just shows you your coaching prowess in which you've put in the install for these kids to be able to be as good as they have been. I think that's that says a lot for you, which I said you should have gone back to coaching. And now when people start hearing this, you start getting calls from the NCAA big game tonight. Another big game. Yeah. Big game tonight. Okay. 3 1 2 3 3 2. ESPN is our phone number. Northside Michaels on. Captain Jhood, Michael. Good morning. Good morning, fellas. How you doing? What's up, Mikey? Mike, what do you think of all this, Mike? Yes. So first, I want to say cat. Congratulations. Thank you. It's all to the kids, man. They were there. Awesome. So I want to offer up my opinion. I'm not taking sight. I'm going to off. I'm going to share this with you. I am a I H S A sports official. I want to say kudos to your league and to the scorekeeper where I referee. I do football and I used to baseball. We have rules in place to prevent lopsided scores like that. For example, when one team gets a 28 point lead, then the team that is in the lead cannot run sweet, no passes, no blitz. Everything has to be up the middle. They must take some action to do something about that score. If in our league that I've worked with, if there's a huge lopsided score, that coach may find himself in front of a committee and a panel. These are 10 year olds. They're not pro. They're out there because their parents want them to get some exercise, have some fun and make some wholesome relationships with other adults and children their own age. Mike, if they just run the football offensively, is that a violation also? You said no sweeps and no throwing the football offensively, but can they just run it? Has to go up the middle between the tackles. Okay. That is correct. Then I'm getting my defensive lineman in and get him a few carries. Boom, right through there. Touchdown. And if that coach finds himself in front of a committee, because an answer like that, he may not be coaching anymore. It does matter. I'm also a special education educator. And it matters. 10 year olds, and we have a bad habit of all over the world of treating a lot of these kids as miniature adults, which they are not. We need to remind ourselves that, like I said, they're here to get some exercise, have some fun and make some friends. Yes, you're a showwright. Yes, because you came to practice, you participated throughout the whole season. Yes, you get a trophy. The winners, the champions get a bigger trophy, but trophies are not that expensive and everybody gets one. You are correct. I have a son who went through special education, so God bless you for what you do for those kids. And I agree with him. 100%. So you're going to turn off the dormant defense now. Not at the start, and we have a tough game tonight. I understand that, but you're going all 94 feet though, right? No, you can't press till the final two minutes, only if you're down. Okay. So we just pick up at half court, and if you have a 15 point or more lead, you have to pick them up at the three point line. You can't be out there trapping at the half court or picking them up there. And I agree with all, look, I got a really good team. Those kids play their tail off, but there's going to be a game where we're going to have to wear it too. These are 10 year olds. Probably not. You're coaching. More than likely not. You're the most experienced. You've seen it all. You're going to get it done demanding the take that I need you to box out. You hear me? Yes, coach the I just want the kids to have. I tell them all the time. We have two rules. You play hard. You're on time. Yes. If you're not on time, you won't play. Yes. You have a lot of responsibility. Our game's at 6.55. You're there at 6.30. I got there at 6.10. All my guys were there by 6.15. No question. If you get a chance to see one of CAF's games live, it will remind you of some of those great Nolan Richardson teams from Arkansas. That's exactly what you're going to see. So just so people understand. Wow. And youth sports. 312-332-ESP at 332-3776 is our phone number. Wow. So 16 points. Is it too early to stop keeping score in a youth basketball game? He says that's way too early to say, hey, let him wear it. That's what he says. They're 10. I just think it's fun. I just think it's I think it's fun. My angle on it is I'm glad that you're coaching and that you're enjoying yourself and that you're winning. We're just having fun, man. That's that's my angle. We had a good time last night and we'll hopefully have a good time tonight. I just want the kids to have a good experience and have fun. Absolutely. 40 to 40 year final, back with more of the post game show after this on ESPN 1000 and the cap radio network. Welcome back to Captain Jay Hood experience weekdays from 7 to 10 on Chicago's home for sports ESPN Chicago and to Captain Jay Hood morning show on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the SP in Chicago app. Glad to have you with us here on this Waddle Wednesday. Still to come. We have a shot or no shot at eight o'clock. If you're just joining us, we're talking about cap. He's back to coaching. I'll never coach again. Kid. Take that. He's back coaching. But there's 10 years. They're 10 year olds though that he's coaching and he has is undefeated so far. And last night's game. He and his team wallop the competition say we won big. We don't have to embarrass the kids by putting the score out there. Well of the kids 40 to four. That was the that was the fun. That's what you told me wallop. And so now another game back to back. I did not use the word wallop. Oh, I use it. Well, I mean, it just said we won comfortably. Yes. Yes. Well, I would well, if you're going to write this in the newspaper, that's how it would be written. And what I'm saying is, is that the question is for the audience is 16 points to early to stop score in a youth basketball game. Shea believes that, hey, you keep it going because they have to learn, right? Shea? That's what you're saying. They have to keep learning. You got to wear it. You got to remember what it felt like to see 40 to four on that scoreboard. So they never say it again. What are you embarrassed about? You came on the air and said, are we one 40 to four? You asked Sarahman put the tweet out. Yeah. Nobody's embarrassed. You don't have to be ashamed. You won 40 to four. Yeah. And so we're just trying to figure out how, you know, how do you handle it? As I asked, what do the other team learn from it? And I guess that's like, hey, you know what, you got to step it up a notch because there's great competition in this league, right? If you're the coaching on the other side. Correct. Yeah. Tom saying. What's so wrong about what I'm saying? What's so wrong with Shea saying, hey, man, you're the one back to coaching and we're celebrating you today. There's nothing to celebrate me. Celebrate those kids. Oh, man. They played their tail off course. Those kids, it is so much fun to stand there like I don't sit down. And I just stand and watch and we all, everybody played the same number of minutes. We had all 10 of our guys there. So we played four minutes, four minutes, four minutes, four minutes. And those kids play so hard. It's amazing to watch. Where do you think that comes from? You got to have a mission statement. You want them to play hard or play hard, which is awesome, but you can't get people that don't play hard. You it's unsustainable motor. I think you're born with a motor and then you can be coached, obviously. Those kids, like one of the kids, his dad played football in the big 10. His mom was a big 10 tennis, but like he's got jeans. Yeah. I mean, these kids all compete, man. All of them. Let me just say this. And they all were cheering for each other. Yeah. Which was super cool to watch. Let me just say this. Seriously. What I'd be in touch. I'll say this. I think that we've evolved. We have evolved as a sports society. Clear it out. No, I'm good. And I'm powering through. We have evolved as a sports society cap in which there was a time where indeed you did have to wear it and you just had to look at that scoreboard with his football, basketball, baseball, whatever. You just have to do it. I think that we've evolved in that we want kids to stay more involved in sports. I can go through neighborhoods in which I used to play softball or baseball. And it's I mean, it's nothing but grass there or weeds because kids don't want to play. And I just think that when you say that, hey, you know what, we'll cut the scoreboard off because we want them to come back. That's a reason for them to return like, okay, you know, we didn't win today. We can learn from this and move forward. You don't want to lose kids as far as sports a concern. And so I think that instead of just beating a team or a bunch of kids down, the kid can be encouraged and say, you know what, we didn't win today, but we're going to come back. Yeah, because in my day and your day, it's who it was. If it was a goose egg on the scoreboard, that's what it was. And you'd have to be tough enough to handle it. I think it's a little bit of a difference in this era. You want kids to continue to play sports and get exercise and have fun. Yeah, it bothers me to drive by parks and there's nobody in them. Yeah. God, that was where we hung out. We played every day. Yeah. So. Yeah, Kenosha, Wisconsin, Lenny is on ESPN 1000. Hey, Lenny. Good morning. Morning. Hey, I just, you know, I wanted to comment off a Mike's statement and I think the way that they're running things now with our generation is just awkward. You know, that 40 to four sport definitely should have stayed on the board. There's no way it should have came off because now you're looking at kids that worked hard like your kids, your kids worked hard to get that 40 to four score up there. And nobody's seen it. They cut the scoreboard off because the other kids didn't work hard. No, they weren't. Those other kids played hard, man. They did. They tried. We've got some really, really 10 years old. These kids are tough. Physical, I remember when he asked you if you would take the job. I was listening that morning, too, and you asked them, what kind of kids am I going to have? You know, are these kids going? Can they play? You know, what's going on here? What am I going to have? And he told you, yeah, we get all competitive kids. It's competitive league, all these other kids on the other teams, they paid to get on that league, too. You know, this isn't free signups and, you know, everyone paid to get in that league to cut the scores on the kids is killing them and it kind of chased me out of our coaching up here in Kenosha. On our football league, like Mike was saying, if you get up 21 points, you can't throw the ball. You can't run. Sweet. You can only go right up the middle. So now, so now let's say I only run right up the middle. If I still score right now, I'm in front of a committee telling them what happened. You know, there's no congratulations to the kids that worked their butt off in practice to beat this other team by 21 points. But, Lenny, here's the thing though, Lenny, here's the thing. You know that you won, your team knows that they won no matter what the score was. That's correct. So, I mean, listen, you can talk about in the locker room, but there's no need to necessarily rub it in. I guess that's my point. As I said, I think that we've evolved as a sports society in which you don't have to hang up a 73, nothing, your final and just have to have it on the scoreboard for the rest of the game. You don't have to do that. Agreed. Back in the day, we were armed to be able to handle a cap. It's different today. It is different. And I think there is, and again, it's not softer. It's just different to me, the way that we handle youth sports today. It's just different. Like, those kids that we played against, some of them just were, they were physically outmatched and they played hard, man, they hustled. I heard their coach, Jason, calling out plays. Those kids ran them. Yeah. It's just my execution. That's all. And again, it's learning. It's about learning. Yeah. At that level, you're just trying to develop and learn. Totally get it. It's not like when we talk about professional sports and how a guy or a girl did not get the job done. It's just different. It's all a learning experience for all the kids, win or lose, as we go to Kyle and Oprah on ESPN 1000. Hey, Kyle. Good morning. Hey, good morning, gentlemen. How are you today? We're good, man. What's up? Thanks for checking in. Don't worry, man. Hey, quick. I have a couple quick points for cap. One, when you guys were off by 20, what did you do with your team to maybe work on some other skills? Maybe did you have them dribble with their off hand? Did you put in a minimum amount of pass? Yes. And I hope you also went to the bench. Everybody played the same amount of minutes. I have 10 kids. We went, we changed like hockey lines, five in, five out, period. And we had a minimum. We were up, I don't know, we were up 20, minimum number of passes. Yeah. You can't. We stopped trying to fast break. We didn't pick up at half court. That's what you do. Yeah. You can't tell them not to shoot. They're there to play too. Exactly. No, but did you have them work on their off hand dribbling? We do that in practice. We're not, you're not going to practice dribbling with your off hand during the game. We just play. We just don't push the ball inside and then press none of that, none of that. You know, no, but, but, and I'm just speaking from a coach who's on it at basketball and youth lacrosse, right? It's going to be difficult when you're up by a substantial amount, whether the scoreboards on or off, because the kids know, and you and I both know cap, the parents on the other team, they know, right, whether the scoreboards on or, on or off, we, we always try to work on our skills that needed to be improved during an actual game situation. There's nothing beats that. Yeah. Yeah. And again, you're not getting in the middle of the game go, okay, we're only dribbling with our left hand. No, no, no, that's as, that to me would be as egregious as trying to press and score 100 points. That's, that's not what it's about. You have it cooking and you probably would score with your offhand too. So now, now you're definitely rubbing it in and you don't need to do that. We just, we had a minimum number of passes and I get it. The kids are so unselfish. It was super cool to watch, you know, Thomas Prado cheering for Charlie and Candela for Avery or for Johnny or for Jack or for the Miles or this one or that. That's the thing that was super cool to look, I'm going, wow, these kids are cheering for each other. It's super cool. Sure. 3, 1, 2, 3, 3, 2, ESPN, 3, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7, 6 is our telephone number. We're talking about that. Also the Cubs with a victory against Baltimore. How do they do it? We talk about it. Otis the owl, baby. Here we go. I told you, I had to talk with Otis. Walk through a restaurant last night with Otis under my arm. Brought Otis to the restaurant. Yeah, Otis is resting right now back in the office at home, Otis 4-1, Otis is doing a good job. Will you take Otis to the World Series? Oh, wait. You'd have to go to the World Series. I didn't know that we were eliminated already. I didn't know that they put a rule in and said the Cubs are eliminated. All I know is Otis is 4-1. We go back to work tonight with him and Aga. Steel tomorrow. Well, I can tell you, Shay, but you stick to your analytics kid. You understand you're an old kook, right? Captain Jay Hood with the morning 7-10. Wow. Live from State Street in the heart of Chicago, you are listening to the new home of the Chicago Bears. ESPN Chicago. And this is Captain Jay Hood, W.M.P., W.T.B.C., H.D.2, Chicago, a good karma brand's radio station. Checkmate 1-6, landing of suppression on target. That's why I see him in my shot. Shot or no shot with Captain Jay Hood or ESPN 1000 and ESPN Chicago at. That's why I see him in my shot. Good morning and welcome in to the Captain Jay Hood Morning Show on ESPN. On 1,000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. Now time for Shot or No Shot. And it's brought to you by the fine folks over at ESPN Bet Now Live in Illinois. Sign up today. New users get a hundred dollars in bonus bets with any sports book bet. We say good morning and welcome back to Shay, W for winger, Norway. Good morning. Glad to be back, boys. How are we feeling on a Wednesday? You're awesome, man. All of us in here with except for Jay Moore, help he enjoys his vacation. You know, Shay, the guy over your shoulder, this Jack, what is it? Jack Pottinger. Jack Pottinger. So this guy, Jack Hodden, Jack McGrath, what was it? Jack McGrath. So this guy over here, Jack, was channeling you doing a Shay Norling impression yesterday. He's trying to just, just get everything stirred up. We just say, Jack, just, I understand that Shay programmed you before he left. Just be Jack. That's a problem. He's trying to be you, Shay. And I would just say that you are one of a kind. Let you just be you, right? Yeah, like Matt Nagy says, be you. This guy here over your shoulder is trying to put Chris Sal in the Hall of Fame. I said he could eventually be a Hall of Fame. No, you were pretty much like an E-pist as well for two more years. He's in. Two or three more years. He wins a couple of sighs. He's gone. He's got a couple of sighs. He's never won one. He's 35. What are you doing? Shay, go into his compartment and bring Jack's volume down a little bit. Thank you. I know you programmed before you left, but he's, he's, he's haywire a little bit. Just program. A.I. Jack is a little bit out of control. A.I. Jack's insane. Yeah. He's not insane. So, Shay, just program him after the show. He's trying to be you. And I'm like, there's only one Shay. Don't do that. You want people to be individualistic when they are in your spot, right? Let them be themselves. Now, I'm just trying to see if I agree with Jack that Chris Sal's Hall of Fame. Okay. Well, Shay. He's not. And Chris Sal did an interview. Here's how it works. If I say Chris Sal and you're not sure, then it's no. Thank you. And Chris Sal went on intentional talk, was it? Beliefs though, yeah. That was guys out. You were Hall of Famer. He said, no, I'm not a Hall of Famer. Even with the standards downshade, like there's no more 300 or 250 game winner, that's not a Hall of Famer. It's going to be tough without the accolades, but his war is close. Yeah. 50 war player for his career. If he can get that up to 60, then he hits the baseline. If Brian Kinney's doing the voting, then no question, he's it, with his suspiciously dark hair. Here's Shay Norlin. All right. I want to ask about the Bears. Bears have been linked to the Bears via free agency by offshore odds makers. I've heard talk about David Bactiari on this show during my time off, but the Bears also have the second best odds to land former defensive player of the year, cornerback Stefan Gilmore. Gilmore at a good time in Dallas after he won the DPOI award with New England. He's been a high level player in every secondary that he's been in, but the Bears secondary is the strength of their defense. It's as good as any unit in the league from what we've heard, led the league in interceptions a year ago. You did see what PFF Johnson, right? What did they rank it? Would they rank the Bears secondary hood? 21st? Yes. The PFF might be a little drunk on that one with the got Jalen Johnson. I like the secondary. We think it's a strength shot or no shot signing Gilmore would make no sense for the Bears. It's a no shot because if you could get good players with the amount of injuries that teams have to have another good player. If you have the money to be able to do it, do it. I ride with Ryan polls, man. That guy has earned my trust and faith in him. I am all in on team polls. I think that's a shot that they could sign him that I would have no problem signing him because of the money situation. What would the contract be? Something like two or three years, 20 million? I think that fits under their cap, doesn't it? How much more cap room do the Bears have? They have in real cash, they call it, I believe the Bears have 12.5 million left. Okay. For a flyer, I don't think that's bad for a depth. I got no problem with that. The projected market value is about nine or ten million dollars a year. Okay. Chicago Bears space right now, let's see, over the cap, what do they got for us? I liked it for depth, Shay. That's the only reason why. He's not going to break the secondary. It's already solid. Why not add a little more? Oh, okay. Now they have team cap space on over the cap, 21.5 million, but you don't not have deals done yet with Caleb or Roma doomsday, which is, I don't believe that those guys are slotted in yet, so you still have to get certain guys. I guess the question is what would be left over if you want to add again, Shay, as we well know, the other side of that defensive line is my concern. I want them to bears to have as many past rushes as possible from the line to get to the quarterback. We saw a lot of that last year toward the back end of the season. I, you know, when we continue hearing Gakwe and Gakwe, it has a Bellinger feel to it because it's a name that we know we're familiar with. It's kind of like, but it has that Bellinger feel like, Oh, you got to have him. We got it. Okay. Well, I like him to be able to defy the pass rush. I'm not saying he's going to be all world, but like to have a little bit more expertise in that spot. And so go ahead. Well, I'm with you. That's where I would spend the money. But the problem is the guys you're going to get are guys like John and Gakwe who are not great players, but you need them because you have a vacancy on the roster. Whereas Stefan Gilmore, you're going to get a good, too great player. If he's at his best, he's old, yeah, but it'll cost a little more, but you're getting a better player. I would say that that's enough. That's a experience of great at that position. And I know who would be forward. It'd be uber-fluous. I'm sure if it was a defensive player, you would call him Dragon's Lager. What do you think of that? Look, if they can add talent, this team has a chance to be really, really good in a really, really tough division. If David Bakhtiari is coming in here and he gives you 10 games, that's a really good depth piece. If he's healthy, he says it's the healthiest he's been in multiple years. If that's true, Connor Williams is coming off the ACL at center. He's a really good player. He would have got paid big if he had been healthy. We turn now to Shay Norling on his thoughts on players being in the best shape of their life. That's my least favorite cliche in sports. Yeah, but he had everybody's in the best shape of their life every year. Because I'm with you on this. Like why were you completely fat, not a shape then if you're now in the best shape of your life? It's my question. Because those ribs are good. But he's coming off of major knee issues that he says he got cleaned up. If that's true and he's feeling a lot better, maybe he's got one last hurrah in him on a team that's going in the right direction. It looks like. Yeah. I heard. I heard all that about Miguel Cabrera's knee getting cleaned up and being in the best shape of his life for the last seven years when he was a dead body, too. Wow, just saying who's Shay Norling gets that age you got knee issues? I'm good. I'm out. All right. I want to ask about the Cubs last night. 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I don't know. I liked my high school, but five years is just so soon. I don't know if it's not the answer. No. It's probably going to be a no. Five years is pretty sudden. You just saw them. You were just sharing lockers with them. Yeah. Five. Ten. Where are you living now? Well, same place. My parents basement. Same place as high school. Five years isn't even long enough to be sentimental about high school. There's a reason you got to wait ten. You got to have nostalgia. Five years? It's all too recent. Yeah. I just saw you. We were just sitting in the bleachers watching the Varsity basketball game together. The 730 tip. Yeah, I had my 40 year. I haven't gone. Hey, man. That's not a huge reunion guy. I'm not a wedding guy. So what do you want me to do? No, no. I just think from me, I don't want people from over there in Avenue O asking me 400 bucks, knowing since they know what I do for a living now. Right. That's what I don't want. Oh, look at him. He's hosting a morning show. Could you help a brother out? Exactly. That's the problem. I don't want the guys from Avenue O asking me, "Hey, doing radio, huh? Here we go every morning. Making good money?" Yeah. How long have you been doing this? 32 years? Yeah. Probably accumulated a lot over the years, huh? Yeah. I got my community money. What's your point? I don't want to go into that. Do you want to sponsor my-- Exactly. Youth group. Put your hand out. Jeez. Yeah. Around the NFL is coming up. Don't forget to waddle Wednesday. We'll hear from Tommy coming up at 835. Captain Jay Hood on Chicago's Home for Sports. Captain Jay Hood, I'm back. I want to thank both of you guys, man, for the great season of bad information. And I just want to say I appreciate you guys. And I love the show. On Chicago's Home for Sports. ESPN Chicago. It both sucks. He sucks. I'm just a fan. I'm not a football evaluator. I love the Green Bay Packers. The guy is wrong. But there he goes. This is not Detroit, man. This is the Super Bowl. I won't win him. He starts to come at home. This is a really thickly built guy. I mean, with Sam, so you're looking for all these things here. It's time to go around the NFL right here on the Captain Jay Hood Morning Show on ESPN 1000. To Waddle Wednesday, we'll hear from Tommy coming up at 835. We go around the NFL. Here's a returning Ushayn Orling. Shayn? I was catching up on headlines. I saw Aaron Rodgers is apparently per Devontay Adams quote in the ear trying to recruit Devontay Adams from the Raiders to the Jets. And it's just, can somebody help me understand who is running these teams? Is it the GMs and the executives and the presidents and whoever or is it the players? Because as I understand, Devontay Adams is under contract with the Raiders. Yes. How is Aaron Rodgers recruiting him to the Jets? There is no tampering clause in the NFL, right? There is for executives, coaches, owners, any but not players. See? Well, the answer to your question, Shayn, is it depends on the team, right? Apparently, but like my point is Rodgers going to get on the horn with the people in Vegas and offer to move jet picks. Who's running these teams? Yellow. Yeah. This is Aaron. I need to speak to Mark Davis. Aaron Hoop. Aaron Rodgers. Mark Aaron Rodgers. We'll give you our 2026 and 2027 first round picks. We want Devontay. Done. Joe? Joe Douglas, the GM? Yeah. Can you get someone to pick Devontay up at the airport? I got to work out in the therapy on my Achilles. No. Devontay Hoop. Devontay Adams. They're just traded for him. Okay. Can you hear me? Rodgers is telling Joe Douglas to set a meeting with the capologist. No. That does not work. How are we going to pay for this, Aaron? I don't know. Figure it out, but I just traded for him. I'm Mark Davis. I'm like, put your dad on the phone. Like it. Put your GM on the phone. Who are you? You're making them go. Put the GM on the phone. What is going on here? Is this a goof? Put your GM on the phone. I like the conversation that the bears have. That's better. Hello? Hello? Who's this? Who's this? This is Chicago Bears, man. How you doing? Shae, next time someone calls you, and you pick up the phone, just say, this is ESPN with thousand. Who's this? Someone from the office. Like, you're not Shae Norley. You're ESPN with thousand. I should start answering the phone like that, like Caleb. Hello? Like you refuse to call me? Who's this? You're called the studio like a bears, man. Hello? Who's this? Who's this? ESPN with thousand, man. That's what you want. That's how you answer it. Uh, so Shae, again, this is why I talked about this in the past. Shae, there's so many NFL players that wish they had the autonomy and the swing that NBA players have. Like, LeBron James has so much power that in the open, when you're, that's where the tamper, yep, I want that guy, I want this guy, I want that guy, the NFL players wish that that kind of power to say, yeah, you know what, out in the open, I want that guy on my team. What are you going to do about it? It's definitely tampering. NBA guys do it all the time, the NFL does not have that same autonomy. So, Shae, what else do we have? This morning I was on Sportsman like Evan Cohen offered his top five pass catchers list. I was listening live and was left in slack jawed amazement, frankly. Here's Evan Cohen's top five pass catchers in the air flow. Me too. This is CD lamb at four Justin Jefferson at three Christian McCaffrey at two Jamar Chase and at one Travis Kelsey. Yeah, that was not Evan's best segment. Now, sorry Evan. Love you, but that was not a good segment. Listen, content's content Evan is free to believe what he wants to believe and I'm not even saying his list is wrong. I'm not going to trash it. I will tell you I created my own list and the two of you can decide whose list is better. Yeah, and I will trash Evan's and I love Evan. Evan's list was horrible. Shae, your list is better. My top five pass catchers. You don't have to give it. It's already better. Next. Hey. When I'm even giving it, yep, Shae, your list is better. Thank you. Why is Christian McCaffrey on Evan's list? Why is Travis Kelsey? He's not a wide receiver. He also is coming off a career worst year. He said pass catcher. Did he say pass catcher? He said pass catcher. He said what a pass catcher. He said he wasn't limiting this to wide receiver. Pass catcher. Now, again, McCaffrey doesn't belong on the list, but the point is though he said pass catcher and his whole point, as we all heard it live here, unfortunately like five to seven before we come on here on ESPN 1000, he believes that a tight end has more value than the wide receiver. Do you agree with that? No. And you know why he says that and it was not mentioned on the show. But if I was a Colston show, if I was Chris Canty and I would have said, you know, what I would have said would be you're a Patriots fan. Of course, you'd feel that way. Correct. Because he had Gronk and he had no real great receivers. And you won a lot with that formula. That's correct. Why receivers were just an accountant and a sanitation man and it was good enough for Brady. And it was a converted quarterback from Kent State. And let's be honest, it wasn't good enough for Brady, but that's the way Belichick ran it. Brady had to flourish despite having a difference maker or difference makers at wide receiver. Gronk was it, right? So Shane, let's hear your five. That's better than Evan. Uh, if I've I'm in Ross St. Brown, the Detroit line, it was fantastic last season at four. This was probably the most controversial selection, but Brandon Ayuk, who I publicly loved in San Francisco. I think he's better than Debo Samuel. He was incredible. He's still young. Twenty five years old, who probably get better as he gets into his prime, three CD lamb and tied for first, Tyree Killen, Justin Jefferson, okay, I would it your list is literally secretary and at the Belmont and Evan's list is sham who ended up in the match race with secretary it fell all the way back to last. Here's sham on Demar de Rosa. It was really down to the Kings and the Miami Ocean, what I'm told as far as Demar de Rosa is next home. You really wanted to land in a competitive environment and also I'm told wanted to go back west by the end of the day and the cam they pushed up. I didn't say shams. I said sham. That was the name of the horse that was dead like I was mistaken. Yeah, not shams. Sure. I thought you were calling for shams sound there. I didn't know. No. Thank you though. So Shane, before you even read it. Again, pass catchers. You disagree with his premise that tight ends are more valuable than wide receivers. Correct. Now I'm not telling you that you couldn't put Travis Kelsey at five. I would have. Who did you have? Co number one. Tyree Killen, Justin Jefferson. Thank you. That's exactly where I would it any list that Evan puts out a pass schedule that doesn't have Tyree kill on it. The top five is a bad list. Sorry, Evan. Take that. Yeah. No problem. The McCaffree thing is mystifying to me like absolutely mystifying this guy. He was targeted like 83 times 67 catches. You are not a top pass catcher now 83 targets less than 30. It was like 29% of his snaps came lined up at receiver. Yeah, no, it's just you can't be a top five pass catcher. No, that's just wrong. That's okay. Look, it was compelling enough for us to talk about in a topic on unsports. It's been like, he's just wrong about that. But I think the question still stands, Jack. Would you rather have a top wide receiver or a tight end that again is a top pass catcher? So Justin Jefferson for life or Travis Kelsey for life. I'll take Jefferson. It's tough because it's like one of the greatest tight ends to ever play the game against the best wide receiver right now. Well, if we're talking pure past catching, I'll take Jefferson. But if we're adding in the blocking and all the other aspects, I'll take Kelsey. Am I getting Kelsey at his age right now? And Justin Jefferson? And because that's very easy. Justin Jefferson. Right. Kelsey was operating at 60% last season so that he could be good for the playoffs. Right. Or are we talking Travis Kelsey and Justin Jefferson both at age 24? Yeah, all time. That might take Kelsey. Kelsey. Yeah. But Evan kept saying like, if you have a great tight end, you're more likely to win a Super Bowl, which, okay, fine. But if you look at the non-quarterback Super Bowl MVPs who were like offensive players, they're all wide receivers. Yes. Was Julian Edelman won it? Cooper Cup won it. It's a different category than we are used to, Kat, because they weren't called pass catchers. Tight end was the grunt work. That was the blocker. That's correct. Some catchers here and there, but for the most part, you're the grunt guy, the tight end. That is correct. Now, you can see how athletic the tight end is, which is amazing. Is Tommy there by the way, Jack? Tommy? Tommy belonged on that list when he played. He was a shut up. So you, so that was- But you know what? Don't be a jerk. I was being complimentary. You know what? You were being a wise ass. You were being a wise ass because I didn't, everyone on the planet knows I don't deserve to be on that list. So you just- Today, you're 59 years old in a scotch-induced coma half the time. See, again, another shot. That's another shot. I'm talking about when you were in your prime. Listen, I think this is a silly conversation. You know I love that. And I think Evan's wonderful at what he does. He's a great guy. Evan, as John, John, you just said it. He accomplished his goal. He got you guys talking about it. But there's no basis on any rationale to put as good a player as Christian McCaffrey is, as a top five pass catch in a league. And tight ends are definitely not as important as wide receivers. As wide receivers. Look, and that's not to diminish him. I think a guy like Gronk was one of the most difficult covers in the history of the NFL because he was faster than linebackers and safety's he's bigger than corners. So if you drop a corner inside, like, you know, who's our guy that plays on the inside? It's so early for me. I can't remember. Marcel, he was. No, no, no, no. Who's our cornerback? The kick inside. We got Tyrek Stevenson on the outside. Jalen Johnson. No, no, no. Kyler Gordon. Kyler Gordon. Yes. There you go. So for Kyler Gordon, who's a fantastic player, and I think it's as a position that's undervalued quite a bit, he's too big for Kyler Gordon. He's too fast for linebackers and safeties. But those guys are one in a million most of the time. And as much as I love Travis Kelsey, my guess is Travis Kelsey, a ton of his success isn't just he's a great player. But what he's got with the greatest quarterback we've seen in decades is something that you just can't even put your finger on sometimes. Because Travis Kelsey's not ever going to be as dominant a player if he doesn't have someone who he's in tune with as much as he is with Patrick Mahomes. So I'm with you. I think Cap, you said it. Any list that doesn't have Tyrek Stevenson in it at this time? Tyrek Hill. Tyrek Hill. I'm sorry. Yeah. By the way. 24-year-old Tom Waddell in 1991, 55 catches for 5.99 and three tuddies that belonged on that list. Jonathan, do you realize that I'm getting out over my skis right now? I think I have a higher career yards per catch average than Keenan Allen. I've heard this. He does. I've heard this. Take that, Shay. Thanks, dad. Stick that in your analytics. More of Tommy coming up with Waddell Wednesday on The Cap and Jay Good Morning Show.