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And just so the audience knows, "Cap and Ghood" nation knows. Cap is just doing these three hours just to get away from his family. He's just, he's put him, he's isolated himself in a room to himself with the door unlocked because he's got, I don't know, 18 people in the cap in. Outside of his home, of course, if you want to know what a Cap's home is, there's just a glowing motel light. What's some of the light bulbs out, of course, it says "Cap in." Because that's exactly what you're having, Cap. All that family in there, and you're just trying to get away from this morning. Thank you for joining us. So some of them have left. We had 17 and four dogs. Yeah, 17, four dogs. Of the 17, there were a handful of little ones. My sister lost, grandkids, my two grandkids. And there are people that don't like a dirty house. And then there are people who don't like a messy house. Yes. Look, I have two dogs. I could deal with a little dog fur to, you know, I keep it. We keep it very clean. Messy, I don't deal with. I don't. And so I'm following around scooping up books and puzzles and throwing them right back into a toy box. Where's the piece of the puzzle in that box somewhere over there? Oh, God. Well, what's the turn down service like there at your home? I mean, is there a little chocolate on the pillow for each person? No? No. But last night we went to a place in town head, a small town living, but they had a wine tasting. So my wife said, we should go with our son Nick, our son Alex, and their wives. And we walked. It was a mile walk. Oh, God. It's like they've Uber running around here and not going to drive, obviously, I'm having a wine. So we walked the mile, get to the wine tasting. It was fine. Had a good time. And people at Badger Lickers were putting on the wine. And there's a restaurant right there. So we go in, everyone needs to eat. So can we let's order dinner? Oh, it's your special clamped corn chowder. So they order a bunch of corn chowder and then to America's there, corn chowder. I'll have someone got salmon and someone got this and it was very casual. Waitress comes back to the table. I'm so sorry, but the corn chowder ran out. It's gone. Okay. We'll take whatever other soup it was. I can't remember. She comes back like five minutes. We ran out of that soup too. We don't have any soup. Okay. All right. Can we just get the main courses? That's why I'm here. I'm actually the manager. I'm not your waitress, but we ran out of everything you guys ordered. What? They didn't have a kitchen at this place. Oh my God. They bring the food from another site. They truck it over. And it was busier than expected because they had this little wine thing. So I'm so sorry. All we have is a couple margarita pizzas if you want those. Nope. We'll pass. Thanks. Got up and walked a mile home and root. My kids are like we're ordering pizza. They call someplace. They order. They come home. Pizza's not there yet. Obviously it's not like instantaneous. Yes. We're going to bed. They went upstairs and went to bed. Mindy, I have to work tomorrow. I'm going to bed. She was having none of the nonsense. And the pizzas show up and yours truly is basically the only one there. So they're all in the fridge. Okay. Quite a night. Okay. Well, first of all, I mean, what a night. First of all, if Chicago cut steak houses, the White House, that place you went to last night is the out house. Holy smokes. I mean, seriously, but this is, but here's the thing, cap. No one had told you that you need to be in Wisconsin and to be able to have small town living. Yeah. You like the piece and quiet. Yeah, that there's a lake. Sure. It's all great. I know that you're going to go down a few steps in class when it comes to the five star restaurant experience, the idea that you go out for dinner and there's like all the stuff that you want is not there and the place didn't have a kitchen. What kind of greasy spoon did you go to last night? For God's sakes. I didn't pick it. See what I mean? Small town living. That's what I like. That's it. Didn't your family learn from Green Acres that maybe small town live is that the best when you got to depend on a, on a Mr. Drucker to get you your, get your vittles. Yeah. What's your Drucker did not bring the food last. You understand, right? You're Eddie Albert in that spot. You know this, right? You're, you're the guy with the suit and the, and the, the vest. And they, when we were walking toward the house, I said, Hey, we're going to watch a movie. They're like, yeah, what do you got? I said, either top gun Maverick. Oh God. We're the beekeeper for the seventh. Oh my God. Oh my God. Now that is small town living. We got two movies there with, they, they show them at the plate and the drive in. That's what you've done, Cap. That's what you've done. You just minimized yourself to small town living. So there's no complaints. You went to a place with no kitchen looking for dinner about that, no kitchen. Can you guys cook something? We don't have a kitchen. It's brought over from our other facility. Oh, really? Yeah. We just warm it up. Oh great. That's no cut. Can I just tell you Cap? Delicious. That's no cut right there. That's it. So, but we had no baseball last night for the Cubs or White Sox, so nobody lost last night. Thank you very much. In breaking news. We did. It was the, yeah, that is the case, Cap. So you had no baseball and then you had no food for and the rest of Ron. What a night. And that's why folks that he has locked himself away from these people. And that he is away from the family because the cap in is closed for the morning. Correct. It's ridiculous. That's it. This is a, you know, I said last weekend that this is a big series for the Cubs that take on the Brewers. He lost three out of four against San Francisco, San Francisco a team that's not very good, but the Cubs found a way to just scratch and claw and still lost three out of four. You lose against Milwaukee two out of three and Brewers fans are just chuckling laughing at the fact that their manager is now in Chicago floundering in last place in the National League central while the Brewers are fat and happy in the top of the division. And it gets easier for the Cubs though, because you take it on Philadelphia for the next three. Good luck. Yeah. At this thing last night, there was a guy in a Brewers quarter zip. He had to have been 75 years old, and as I walked by, I said to him, uh, hey, Brewer fan, well, he goes, where are you from, Chicago? Nice. Yep. He said, Hey, ask the trader Craig how things are going down. Oh, I don't have a response. What do I say? Then you can't say nothing. They're laughing because the Brewers are again, small market team is a sustainable know. You know what happens. They'll get to the first place. They'll bottom out in the playoffs, then they'll try to find a way to sustain themselves to be a contender, but not to the championship level. But whatever, whatever they're doing cap, they are on top of the Cubs right now. That's, it's amazing work by that, uh, that organization. Well, then his final shot, his salvo at me after we couldn't get any food as we're leaving. Yeah. He said, Hey, who you guys taking number one overall next year? Oh God. He was fired. Could you take him? That old man. Oh, you call it. He was strong. Strong old. I'm a lover. Oh, okay. Well, well, here it is. It was Nesky tonight, the starter for the Cubs against the Philadelphia Phillies. It's a TBS game of the week, by the way, don't embarrass the nation cap. The Cubs have to win the game. They're missing Harper. They're missing Schorber. So maybe the cubby go out and today's the day. It all turns around. Well, no, you're 30, 1946, a lot of rumor out there that more John Marosi stoked the fires yesterday from MLB network that they could trade. Niko Horner. Well, they could trade Jamison, Tyone. Would you like to hear the sound or would you like to repeat everything John said? That'd love to hear what he said. Okay. Because I want to get your reaction to it. Although you look at the Cubs, they've been at her near the bottom of the NL central for a while and you consider where they're at at the moment. I would mention two names right now, Jamison, Tyone and Niko Horner. Jamison, Tyone has two years left on his contract after this year, 18 million dollars a year. And then Niko Horner in his case, he's got about a year and a half left on his deal before he becomes a free agent, a gold glover in the case of Horner and Jamison, Tyone in a year where maybe there's not a ton of controllable pitching available, like the Cubs have to consider the possibility of moving a Jamison, Tyone in this case. Now Horner, you look at teams like the Seattle Mariners, for example, needing potentially a second baseman to help for the long term there, not just this year, but beyond as well. I think the Cubs, again, it's going to be hard for any team in the national league to make that decision. But the Cubs have struggled so much, Lauren, to get any kind of traction. But I think they have to at least think about it. John Marosi on the MLB network talking about the Cubs and their trade line, a trade deadline moves or possible trade deadline moves, you know, I'll go back to what you told me several weeks ago regarding the Cubs and you said, well, let's look at the roster. Who would you trade off the roster because you coveted a lot of these guys in the roster as your opinion changed on that because you said, well, you know, you get to the deadline and if you're just kind of hanging in there, maybe you're not making moves. But the way they're going right now, Cap, it would not surprise me if Jed would sell off some assets, even assets that you like. I mean, if you look at their roster, who's really, really marketable on that roster? Obviously, Justin Steele, but I need more Justin Steele's not less. So I would be stunned if he was moved, but you'd get a handsome price for him. First base, you're not moving over Michael Bush. He's actually hit the ball really well the last month. You know, they adjusted to him, he adjusted back, and he's 26 years old, and he makes no money. So there's no reason to get rid of him. Nico makes $10 million a year. So will you get a lot for him? You get decent back, gold glove, second baseman, shortstop. There is no maniac in the world that would take the Swanson contract. Chris Morrell, you could move him to second, which is more of a natural position for him than third. Makes no money. He's just turned 25 last week. You're not going to get a lot back. You're selling low on a controllable guy. That would be stupid to trade him. Ian Hap, as a no trade clause, I don't know if he would wave it to go somewhere. I don't think so. Cody Bellinger? Yeah. What are you getting? You're asking someone to take on potentially two more years of big money? Big, like $27.5 million a year, and Suzuki has a no trade clause, and he's been scuffling as of late. So you're selling low there in your rotation? Okay. You want to trade Jameson Taion? You could sign another journeyman type pitcher in the off season. You're catching maybe the worst duo in all of baseball. So what are you moving? Well, you heard that for Morossi there, would you be surprised that those players are gone from the Cubs? The thing is, if you are going to make moves, the question always is for any typical fan, how can you get back up there? You have a $203 million payroll. You're not winning as is. You're in last place. It doesn't seem like there's a lot of movement with this Cubs team because the offense is dead, and you don't have any pitching on the back end of your bullpen. So you're not just going to just lay there and just die. You're going to try to make some moves or try to get better. But the question is, can you get better if you have a lesser payroll? Yes. I mean, we're just young players and a few veterans sprinkled in. Well, when we come back for break, I'm going to, my friend Joe Johnson, it obvious shirts, put out a, and our central standings with payroll included, people are going to be stunned. Is there any top what the Tom Riggets doesn't spend any money when they hear this, this breakdown? Is there anything that the Cubs can do to give you confidence before the all-star break in a couple of weeks? Let's talk about that. 3 1 2 3 3 2 3 7 7 6 is our phone number, Captain Jhood weekday morning seven to 10. Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitter at ESPN 1000. Cap and Jhood are back on ESPN Chicago, Chicago's home for sports. And Jhood on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app as we bring you in on this Tuesday morning with a little George Benson. Cap, I got news for you. You know, I poke you in the ribs sometimes about you on the boat, on the water listening to Yacht Rock. I'm driving in this morning and there's a commercial on Series 6M that says yes. Now on channel 105. You love Yacht Rock. Well, here's Yacht Soul coming to Series 6M so now it's going to be competing boats. You on your Yacht Rock and you know, my boat is going to be George Benson and Smokey Robinson with Yacht Soul. Happy New Cut. How great is that, Cap? I love my Yacht Rock. Well, now there's Yacht Soul. I'm looking forward to listening. It's just so ridiculous, Cap. I mean, just like Yacht Rock is, again, it's an acquired taste. This is some of the music that I know I'm very familiar with that you listen to on Yacht Rock. But now, Yacht Soul. So it's going to be me. So that's right, J Moore. We're going to have a little George Benson, a little Smokey and the Miracles. Yacht Soul. That's going to be fantastic. I'm in. Hey, by the way, there was some news at the break. I just stumbled on. When I was a kid, I don't know if you liked it, if you ever went to one, Jack in the box? You remember Jack in the box? Yes. Did you like Jack in the box? Some people did. Some people didn't. Wait, hold on a second. Yeah. Yeah, Jack in the box was in Chicago. Correct. They left in 19, they exited in the 80s. It's been between 40 and 50 years since they were last at Chicago, said their CEO. You know what? Honestly, Cap. I hadn't had Jack in the box unless I was at West. I did not have it in Chicago because I don't think it was South. So my brother and I loved Jack in the box, Tacos. Yeah, I think. But it must have been North or in the suburbs because I don't remember it South. The first time I had it was it was an adult in Vegas, I believe. Jack in the box is announced this morning, the company telling the Chicago Tribune. It's been 40 to 50 years since our last time in Chicago. We are coming back. We will open eight company-owned stores, mostly in the suburbs, one near Midway Airport, and we will have franchise-owned stores as well. How about that? Well, congratulations McGrath. We just happen to have a Jack in the box right now. Congratulations on your new restaurant. Thank you. Thank you very much. It's a very good. Jack in the box is with it. And so no, I didn't have that until God, I was in my 30s out traveling. I haven't had it in probably 30 years. Yeah. So that's good. That's good. That's an inquiry. I mean, if I have to have have it, like Jack in the box or what a burger, I'm probably leaning what a burger. I just had that in Houston on my last vacation, just because I hadn't had it and had that in 20 years, that burger. So interesting. Interesting. So could you please tell us and by the way, the question still stands about where the Cubs are going because not only John Morosi, but also Ken Rosenthal on Fox said that the Cubs could be sellers. I still don't see Kevin for a month away, as you said. It's not even July yet. And they have the exact same record that they had last year at this time. So last year, what happened, they won 10 of 12 at one point in July, became buyers, acquired gamer Candelario, this year, could they trade Cody Bellinger? If those things go badly, yeah, they could do that. But they've had rotation injuries, they've had bullpen injuries. They've got 19 one run losses. The most in the majors, their offense has been a disappointment. We've seen any number of teams turn around in the last couple of weeks or so. The Astros, the Mets, the Red Sox, the Cardinals, the Cubs are thinking maybe they're next. Well, you know, Tom Rick, it's better than I do, Cap. And I know that he knows baseball enough to know that when Jed comes, had in hand and say, well, we were injured all season, we couldn't get out of last place. The retort from Rick into any other sizes, yeah, but what about the offense being so bad? And what about the bullpen? Your choice is for the bullpen. I mean, I'm sure that that Jed will dance for his supper and say, Hey, man, we were injured all season. That's why we underachieved. Well, hold on a second. I'm Milwaukee's 50 and 34. Yeah. 50 and 34. So they are six and a half clear of the Cardinals on a payroll of 108 million. Corbin Burns. Well, he's a great pitcher. Oh, wait. He pitches for Baltimore now. They traded him away. Brandon Woodruff. Oh, wait. He had Tommy John surgery. He's out and all they keep doing is winning 50 and 34. They're at 108 million, St. Louis, second place, 43 and 40, 175 million, Pittsburgh, 40 and 43, 84 million, Cincinnati, 39 and 45, 103 million, and a dead last 39 and 46, 227.1 million. The Chicago Cubs. You could literally add Milwaukee at Pittsburgh or Milwaukee and Cincinnati together. And they don't come to the Cubs payroll yet. We keep hearing Tom Rick, it's his cheap. He won't spend any money. That's the fan base. Hue and cry. Now, could they spend more than they spent? Certainly. But guess what, 227, you dwarf, dwarf the rest of the league and you're in dead last. So why should I give you more money? It would be my question to my employees if I was the owner. So are you prepared to take a step back by doing that? You mean step back in payroll? Yeah. You prepare for that? Because that also, when you do that, you're not winning with a 230 million dollar payroll. What do you think you're going to do with less? Well, who on this team do you go? I have to have that guy. Okay. I don't want to trade him and I don't think they would. I don't know why. I don't know why you saw a sip of my question. I don't know why you're doing that this morning. I'm asking you a direct question. I'm giving you an answer. I asked you, what do you do, Cap, if you have less payroll, are you prepared for to be a non-playoff team? That's why I'm asking you. But why does less payroll mean that I am a non-playoff team? Who on my team that is being paid a lot of money is a non-starter in trade talks? Because Dan's being sponsored, no one would take him but he makes huge money. How much you spend, it's who you spend it on. Fair. Yep. Milwaukee's at 108. Right. We're more than double. If you cut some of the payroll, are you cutting fat out? Are you cutting somebody like, oh man, I don't want to get rid of him. When they got rid of Swarber, over an $8 million salary ill-fated decision because he's hit a ton of home runs in Philadelphia and he's a good player for them. He's injured right now, but he's a really good power hitter. So if I told you you're going to cut $30 million off the payroll, now you're at $197. You're still the highest spending team in the division. Who is a non-starter? I can't trade that guy, who is that? Don't you like Suzuki as a cornerstone for the franchise? I do. I like Sam, but he's right now he's been an average player. Showed. Same thing with Shoda? A cornerstone? Yep. I like him. You're not trading him any time. Like Justin Steele. Yep. Okay. So, but if I told you, oh, Dan's be Swanson's off the books, they got rid of him. Huh. They throw a party. Yeah. Unfortunately. He's fixing your cross so mad so badly. Because of the money that he's making and you're not getting your return on investment as a fan, but it's what you told me. You said, well, what do you expect from him? You're getting a gold glove and just, you know, average offense. Well, what was he with the Braves? A terrific glove and average offense. Correct, but they had a bunch of really, really good players. Yeah. On that roster, so he could slide into that role when you pay him $177 million to come to Chicago. The expectation from the fan base is, well, that guy's going to hit 300 and drive in 80 and hit 25 home run. It doesn't look that way this year. Cap, I would just tell you my point of view is that the Cubs could cut payroll, take a step back. And the difference between the Cubs and the other teams in the division is that they have a cornerstone or a difference maker until my end in their offense, like showed as a difference maker as a starter, it is no doubt. And just as steel is as well. I'm doing it offensively. Yeah. Who do the Cubs have that? You go, that dude, difference maker. Who is that? Cody? No. Make it $27.5 million, certainly not playing like a difference maker. It's okay. If the Cubs would trade him to a contender, Cody Bellinger, he could be just like the added piece to a really good team, but not the difference between winning a championship and not winning a championship. Fair point. If you dropped him on the New York Yankees, who Jesse Sudd does yesterday, he's being scouted by the Yankees potentially. Okay. If you drop money Yankees and they've got Aaron Judge and all these other good guys Stanton, I mean, they got, they're just a really, really good team. Well, Cody doesn't have to carry the team. He's not the star of the team. He's just a guy on the team. He's a really good player, their short porch in right field. Rizzo's hurt. So yeah, no question about it. So Cubs fans, are you prepared to be sellers at the deadline? You heard from John Marosi from MLB network as well as Ken Rosenthal from Fox? Are you prepared for the Cubs to be sellers of the deadline? And what should the Sox do with their stars? Let's get to your phone calls next on cap and Jhood. And checkmate one six and he has suppression on target. That's why I see him in my shirt shot or no shot with cap and Jhood on ESPN 1000 and ESPN Chicago. That's why I see him in my shirt. Good morning and welcome in to the cap and Jhood morning show on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. It's now time for shot and no shot in his brought to you by that. It would be ESPN bent alive in Illinois, you know, $100 in three bets when you make any sports bet. Bet you say good morning in for Shane Norlin. Here's Jack McGrath. Good morning, guys. How's it going? Doing very well. We see this breaking news, by the way, Jack, I know you see this on the screen, too. Donovan Mitchell agrees to a three year 150.3 max contract with the Cavs. Oh, just when he thought Mitchell will go someplace else cap to increase his chances to win a championship, he stands with Cleveland. Yep. And they said it's the precursor to as he goes through this extension to getting a 300 and whatever million dollar deal down the road. So he's locked in probably for the rest of his. I would say at least his productive years in the NBA will be a cap. I would I'd be the first to say, oh, I'd love to see Donovan Mitchell in a Bulls uniform, but it'd be the same situation they wouldn't they wouldn't know how to build around a Donovan Mitchell. So as much as be cool for them and being a Bulls uniform, the Cavs are still better than the Bulls at this point in time. Yes, they are significant. Well, let's lead it off with that shot or no shot. Donovan Mitchell can be the best player on a championship team, because I don't think so. I don't think he's the guy to build around. Nobody's a really good number two. Yeah, it's a no shot. And this is again, where Mitchell did a nice job with the jazz. He's been solid when healthy with the Cavs. But again, look out the mixer built. Look how the Boston Celtics are Indiana. I mean, they have the pieces to be able to attend Cleveland. It's going to be there like fourth best, maybe fifth best in the east, but Mitchell would have to be paired with someone else more talented than him to be able to excel with the Cavs, I think. Go ahead, Jack. All right, so let's go back six months ago in our minds, and Craig Council just signed with the Cubs. Everybody was high on Craig Council and Matt Eber Flus was on the hot seat while I mean narratives have changed since then. And I'll give you shot or no shot at this point. Matt Eber Flus out last Craig Council in Chicago. He's here longer than Craig Council is. Oh, God. Craig Council has four more years left. Eber Flus says this year, and then one more on his contract. Oh, boy. Eber Flus, Eber Flus, he out last council. Right, coach our jobs where you get even though Belichick at some point had to go from the Patriots. Coaching is a job unless you're a Nick Saban or a legend or a coach K coaching is a job where you know you're going to get fired or let go eventually. That's a really that's all of a question right there. That is a hell of a question. I'm going to say just because there's so much turnover, there's no shot that he out last council council, yes, they're having a bad year, but he isn't a accomplished major league manager with a great record of success in year one of a five year deal. I'm going to say there's no shot. It's a no shot. Again, you know of front how I feel about Eber Flus, but here's the thing. I'm rooting for the team. I just think that I wish they had a coach a little bit more seasoning. Now, Eber Flus might win along with the bears. They might win in spite of the bears as far as the Xs and O's like, all right, coach messed up, but you know what? We're the elixir to fix the issues with Eber Flus as far as his game management and certain things that he does as a coach. I say it's a no shot for me. It's a shot. I think definitely Eber Flus, they make the playoffs this year, at least there's improvement this year. Let's say the bears win nine games this year and then next year they make the playoffs. He buys himself at least one more, if not two years after that, if he shows consistent improvement council, if he doesn't doesn't win this year, they try to compete next year doesn't win next year, then in year three, you start to ask questions about it. I would think about his job security. I don't know. The thing is, I don't know what the Cubs look like in a couple of years. You have a $23 million payroll, and so I just feel like the Cubs will find a way to get this turned. I know that they might take a step back, but I kind of feel like council is going to be here. It's a four year deal or five for council is it? It is a five year, $40 million deal. He'll serve the most of that cap for that money. Yeah. I know you know that. No. This ain't money. Williams in the dugout. They have too much talent in their minor leagues. They'll get this thing turned around. They will. So we already talked about how the Cubs have a very difficult schedule before the All-Star break. The Brewers, on the other hand, their schedule is quite easy going into the All-Star break. They get three against the Rockies, who we saw couldn't even meet the White Sox. So they're on the bottom end of the spectrum. They have a couple against the Dodgers, which is tougher, but then they get the Pirates and the Nationals, given the fact that the Brewers have an easier schedule, Cubs have a harder schedule and they're already 11 games back, shot or no shot by the All-Star break. The Cubs could be 15 games back of the division. That's a shot. That's a shot. That's a shot. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So the Rockies are as bad as the White Sox. I knew that coming into the season, Jack. They just don't have enough pitching, Chris Bryant hurt and then water's wet. And then you have the Dodgers. Okay. Difficult. That's a tough, tough spot against the Dodgers. Pittsburgh scrappy, they will see schemes in that series. And then there's Washington to round out the, the first half of the season. So yeah, that's, that's a shot only because cap and this is not, it's not saying that the Angels are just some pushover. I'm just saying that the Cubs have to find the way to start hitting now, hitting, running the bases, all the stuff we talked about in spring training, the Cubs need to go back to square one and just take care of the little things. That's what sucks. Hey, a lot of teams go through slumps offensively, but when you have nothing in the back of the bullpen and then on top of that, you're struggling with the fundamentals, running bases, not feeling your position. Don't know how to execute a rundown. No, that's bad right there. Bad baseball. It is so beyond disappointing to where this thing is from where it was. I was doing a podcast as they were talking. They were eight games, eight games under 500 and all of a sudden, I mean, it's gonna be a game's over 500. And now you're this, this talking about 15 games back brutal, crazy. That's a shot moving on Jason Tate on five year deal runs through the 2030 season. So that still feels like a long way away. We're on. We're only in 2024 still six years out, but I'll say this shot or no shot. The Bulls won't win a playoff series before Jason Tatum's extension is up before 2030. No shot. No shot. They will. They will win a series. Yes. Yes. In 2029. Yeah. Correct. I mean, and the Tatum deal cap, I mean, so here's you're, you're, you know, the, the bearded producer we have in here, the executive producer, and one of them here, Shay Norlin talking about Jalen Brown and wasn't a fan of Jalen Brown can dribble his left hand. Somehow some way Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum work together to win a championship and they are making money hand over fist, both of them. Huge money. Huge money. And their ownership says, now we're going to sell now, you got to love that, right? Like we are going to hit the cash out button because we won a championship and, and here's the other great thing. They pay Tatum and Brown through the nose and they're like, yeah, we're sell. We're not. We're not going to pay it. Someone's got a campus at us, just cashing and getting their money. There's billions over the tax just to win a championship. It's awesome. Cash out. Cash out. See you later. Thanks for coming. Oh, sir. Would you like another hand? No, I'm good. Take that. You walked away from the table. Cap. He's like, okay, that's enough. I'll cut my losses here. Yeah. It is unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I just, uh, no, I believe that the Bulls will be under different management and they will win a playoff series. When you say different management, explain a new GM and president of basketball operations. Oh, wow. They just extend that ever is lead by three years. I do not believe they'll be under different. Well, they're under different management. How long does that management tree build take? Because we're talking, let's say five year timeline, let's say five years, AK gets at least this year. And then you're talking about a four year rebuild, which would make sense. But let's say AK, so AK would have to basically be out after this year then because three years is quick to turn it around. They're not. Jerry's past and in Michael Reinsor's past indicates to you two gentlemen that they're going to move on by these guys out, no shot. I have a five year window. What do you got? I got a five year window. If it's three years, I still feel like the Bulls can make the playoffs under new management after that deals over. I don't say make the playoffs. I said, win a playoff series. Yeah. That's a shot. But I'm pushing it all way to the end, Jack. Yeah, I just think our tourists in Eversley will still be here in 29. Yes. If they're still there in 29, I'm off the show. Take that. Don't you dare. I bought that cap. If Eversley and Carne show this is still in place in 2029. So long, everybody gone. No shot. It's the cap and Shea show hoodies in retirement. All right. That's for tire. That's for tire. That's for tire. That's for tire. That's for tire. Yeah. I'll be gone, Cap. I'll be going for the old timers. I'll just go do a nice weekend show, a nice little, you know, nice little Saturday morning show or Sunday morning show. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Sunday morning chapel. That's what I'll be doing. Maybe you could do cross talk with Chauncey. Maybe so. I'll do that. Absolutely. Jack will produce me. We will do a nice little, nice little comfortable. There's your future, Jack. Two hours. Oh, boy. A nice two-hour show with an almost 60-year-old cat. From the top shot. What do you want to do? How about that, Cap? Sounds great. Then we can get Jaymore to do the audio for that. Jaymore will also. We'll take care of me. Absolutely. All right. We're going to do a... Do you have one more? Can you sneak in one more? I can sneak in one more. Okay. Apparently, Arlington Heights is back in play. Daily Herald reported that Arlington Heights is making another pitch to the Bears, and there's more chatter around Arlington Heights again. Just a quick one. Shot or no shot. There's wind up in Arlington Heights after all of this. That's a shot. You read that. Absolute shot. I believed it the whole time. I've never believed they're going to the city. It makes no sense. No tailgating. Does it... Yes, it would be a nice stadium, but it doesn't solve a lot of the other issues that long walk you have to make over. Come on now. What are we doing? Get to where you can build paradise. Yeah. That's a shot cap. Again, for those that just parachute into the city and that know the inner workings of the politics in this city, and boy, there's a lot of them, it was a nice little dramatic look at what the Bears could look like with a fresh stadium around the soldier feel, you know, ground in that area, but that doesn't solve the issues. You want something comfortable for the fan. And I think that with the laid out at Bear Dice, all the little shops and stores, the whole mall, and of course, the beautiful new stadium, that's what's needed. It's too bad it's not going to happen in Chicago, but I read what you said, Jack. It's going to happen in Arlington Heights, because that's where the space is. That's where the Bears should be. I don't think there's any question. Again, Cap and I are Chicagoans. We love the idea of the Bears being in Chicago, but with politics, if there's no room, where else are you going to go? You know? No question. It's too bad, but that's the way that's the way it is in this city. The quote from the mayor said a lot. We've worked very hard to come to an agreement with the school districts that I think the Bears can be comfortable with, and that's been communicated to the Bears. And that's what we're discussing on Mayor Tom Hayes told the Daily Herald. So I feel very comfortable that should the Bears reengage with us to continue to explore the Arlington Park site, that the road is going to be much easier than we found in past months. Yeah. That's how it works. Yes. Chicago. The city that works. Okay. Right. Right. Albert Breyer is going to move him up and we'll talk to him next about some of the storylines around the NFL. Then we'll do around the NFL at 835. So Albert's next on Cap and Jay Hood. Welcome back. Welcome back to Cap and Jay Hood on Chicago's Humphrey Sports, ESPN Chicago football on ESPN 1000. Hello, Bert. Albert Breyer. Hey, Bert, senior NFL writer for SI.com joins Cap and Jay Hood. Bert said what? You're it, Bert. On ESPN 1000. What do you mean I'm it? We see that's the game. I just tagged you and you're it until you tag somebody else. Albert Breyer. No, no. I'm not playing a game. I'm reading. And I'm not it. I'm in Chicago's home for sports. What bird is it? Albert Breyer joins us every Tuesday here on the Cap and Jay Hood morning show from SI.com on Monday morning quarterback and Albert is on the hotline. Karak's Tyranado hotline. Rattle, rattle, thunder, batter, boom, boom, boom. Good morning, Albert, how are you? Good morning, guys. How are we doing? Doing very well. Cap and I have talked a lot about the toughest divisions in football. We think that the NFC North is going to be difficult. And we also agree that the AFC North is interesting also. What would you say is the toughest division to figure out in the NFL right now? I mean, I'd probably say the AFC North just because you know, Pittsburgh's a wild card, they've been good forever, but they haven't been really good. Like, like the level of Tom Mike Tomlin seems worth the beginning in a while. The Bengals obviously have a lot of hinges on the health of Joe Burrow. And if he's healthy, you know, they're, I think, still the same team that went to consecutive AFC title games and a Super Bowl Cleveland last year with their fourth and fifth tackles and four or five different quarterbacks. Made the playoffs and won 11 games. You know, and then you have Baltimore team that obviously was the best in football during the regular season last year. So, like, how does the loss of three-fifths of their offensive line and Patrick Queen? How does that affect them? You know, so I just, I think with every one of those teams, there's like some level of variable. You know, I didn't even mention the quarterback situation in Pittsburgh, which is obviously the athlete they've actually different. They've turned that over completely. I just, I think that's a difficult one to figure out because there's so many different variables in play. The NFC North is interesting, of course, you know, but I think we have an idea of what Detroit is. I think we have an idea of what Green Bay is. You know, Chicago, we'll see what happens. Minnesota, we'll see what happens because they're both, you know, bringing in new quarterbacks and there's been some level of change on those rosters. I just say with all four of the teams in the AFC North, you have all these different factors where it's, you know, a little difficult to forecast exactly the way they're going to play out. But as you look at this time in the NFL, the Bears still potentially could be looking at Connor Williams at center. I think he's going to go through another physical and see how his knee is doing. They're still looking for an edge rusher. You have any insight on what Connor Williams might be thinking that probably the number one offensive line prospect still on sign and is David Bakhtiari in play anywhere? Yeah. So I think, well, obviously those kind of Williams and David Bakhtiari health is a huge question. I would say with Connor Williams, once he's healthy, you feel really good about what he can do. He can play all three different, all three line positions, you know? And that's not all that common. So, you know, even if you're not getting a top shelf center, right, like then at the very least a field of the floor for him would be you're getting a guy who can give you depth at every single position, right? So, except for maybe love tackle. So I think that that piece of it, like, you know, I think it's just a matter of being patient with him. Bakhtiari is a different kettle of fish. Like, Bakhtiari is very bloomer boss, you know, like I just, I don't think you could sign David Bakhtiari and say, yes, we're going to rely on him to be our starter for 17 years. It's just sad. It's not his fault. You know what I mean? Like, but he's, he's dealt with a lot of health. Why is he a great great player when he's healthy? It's just, you look at the medical history of it and it's like, all right, like, you know, we're going to sign him. We make sure we feel comfortable with not having him for five games, for 10 games, got a bit for the whole season. You know what I mean? Like, he just, it's just a different thing altogether, where Connor Williams is a lot younger and Connor Williams injury issues are more isolated than David Bakhtiari, who is a, a long, long history with that Dean and other ailments. So we continue to see these stories about the Kansas City Chiefs, possibly trying to move to Kansas. It'll be a Chiefs royals combination moving to the state of Kansas. Tell us about those direct flights from Boston's 11 worth. Yeah. Well, I was going to be moving to what's worth or to take a great bend where I have, I have actually been to great then, Kansas, believe it or not, for my buddy's wedding, which is hard to get to. Um, yeah, it's, I mean, like, that is a bigger state than you realize. Once you start, once you drive, once you drive through it, you realize how much land there is there. Oh, yeah. Um, you know, I, I, like, I think these are always interesting because, you know, these places, these cities that have the ability to, to, to pit municipalities against each other. Um, you know, obviously Washington, they've done that in, in kidding, Maryland against Virginia against the District of Columbia and who's going to, who's going to get the team and where's the stadium going to be built, you know, and, um, you know, Charlotte, like we saw what David Tepper did, not that that really worked out for anybody, but hitting North Carolina versus South Carolina, the practicality things. And South Carolina gets it and winds up with a lot of debt and a big hunger concrete that they didn't know what to do with in Rock Hill. Um, it's just, it's, it's the way teams do business now and, um, you know, if, if you're one of these teams that sits in the border, um, you know, then you are, you know, that's one of the levers you can pull. And so, you know, obviously if the, if the, if the chiefs wind up going to Kansas, it's going to be the like, Overland Park or something like that, it's not going to be going to, they're not going to be going deep into the state, um, I think for most fans, um, you know, this is the kind of change is pretty, I don't think, I don't think many fans are going to feel this change very much, you know, um, you know, but it is a way that teams sort of do what they need to do to try to wrangle public money, um, which we could have a much longer argument about whether that's right or not. Yeah, so you know what happens now that if that, if they move the royals and the chiefs, now all of a sudden Kansas City turns into Oakland and like, yeah, like, where's the, where's our major teams, you know, besides soccer, so it would be in the general area. Okay. Yeah. But I mean, that's a, that's a thing though. Like this would be like, so this would be like the, this would be like the Warriors moving to San Francisco. It wouldn't be like the Raiders and the A is going to be, if that makes sense, right? Still in the general area. Yeah. Okay. So I'm in Wisconsin right now. I'm talking to a Packer fan last night. And he's all of a sudden now in a year, a year ago, I ran into this guy and I don't know about this Jordan love. Now he wants to pay him $55 million a year. Yeah. It's like, wow, that changed quick. Can they get a deal done? Shea and I have had this argument where I, if I was the Packers, I would go to him and say, okay, you proved it for one year, one year, I went to Super Bowl one year. Love you. Glad you're here. You go four years at 45 million a year, we'll guarantee 100, you'll still be in your 20s when you get to the end of that deal, or is he truly going to get $55, $58 million? Well, I think you might be focusing on the wrong thing there with the gross number is a factor. I think the structure of the deal is going to be more important. How fast does he get his money? I think there's a great case to you this, like everybody on the surface thinks that Trevor Lawrence got exactly what Joe Burrow got, right? That's not even close to being true. Now the total number was $55 million per year, which like over the life of the deal, that's fine. Those match up, but you know, if you start to dig into how quickly those guys are getting their cash, it's not even close to the same thing. Joe Burrow over the first three years of his deal is getting $36 million more. That's $12 million per year more than Trevor Lawrence is. Now eventually the numbers catch up on the back end of the deal, where Trevor Lawrence has these big numbers on the back end. But the bet there is that Joe Burrow's never going to see the back end of that deal, right? Because when they have two years left on that deal, they're going to renegotiate. So what's on the last two years doesn't really matter that much. So I think the structure of these deals is really important because sometimes we see these big back end numbers that aren't guaranteed and really aren't all that relevant, and those are just sort of placeholders. And in some cases, those numbers get inflated. So the agent can say, yes, like this deal is worth the same as that guy's deal. I think what you're going to want to pay attention to, which you're in love, and this goes for two or two for different reasons, because the injury concerns, how much is guaranteed, how many years out are guaranteed, and how fast is the money getting to him, right? So in other words, like $55.00 per year in new money, that's added on to the two years or the year that's left on this deal, right? You don't want to give up on the deal, so it's good. That's folded in. And how quickly is that money getting to him? How much is he getting year one, year two, year three, right? Like is that average really high through it's three years, or is it low through three years, and then the back end he's getting more? Those are all the things that are fungible here. Those are all the things that he can play with. So I think that that's the issue with both two, I think the teams want to sign those guys long term. You know, with Tua, the question obviously is the injuries, and you know, like how far out are you willing to guarantee? And I can see both sides that too, or Tua wants to lock down as much money as he can, fully guaranteed, having been to the last century coming out of college. And then I think for Jordan Love, it's capitalizing on how he finished this season. And in the Packers and dolphins in both these cases are protecting against the case of love, the chance that maybe there was a little bit of more flash there, right? Let's see what I protect against that, the dolphins are protecting against, you know, obviously the chance that Tua's body breaks down. So these are complicated negotiations. But I think with the offer that they've made, both teams have shown to this point that they do want to get, you know, something done with their guys. Albert, as always, we appreciate your time. Have a great 4th of July. All right. Thank God. I see you in the city soon, Albert. 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