Kap & J. Hood

7/1 9 AM: Building on a Sand Castle

Hour 3: NBA Free Agency has begun; the Chicago Bulls made a move, would they do more? Bulls Vice President of Basketball Operations Art?ras Karnišovas hasn't made many moves over the years is he the one to turn things around? The Cubs lost 2 of 3 against the Brewers, is this season done? Plus, the Kap & J. Hood Classic Cut Of The Day.

Duration:: 43m
Broadcast on:: 01 Jul 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

(upbeat music) - Good morning, Chicago. And welcome in to the Cap and Jake Good morning show on ESPN 1000. And we're streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. We've got Jay, we've got Jay Moore. We've got you here on this Monday morning. We hope that you're gonna have a great week, great holiday weekend as well. Open phone line for you, 312-332-ESPN-332-3776 is our telephone number. Watch our show on YouTube. YouTube.com, look for ESPN Chicago, hit that subscribe button, the same thing with Twitch, twitch.tv/ESP1000Chicago. Plan to get to in our final hour of cap, including while we were talking to Jesse, news breaking on the Bulls front. - Bring it on. - The Chicago Bulls, they get themselves a backup center. - Yeah, they went out and got Jalen Smith, three years, 27 million, he was with the Pacers. Not a spectacular player, average is about 10 points, but last year, learned to step out, hit a few threes, about 42% from three-point range last season. - So that works, you got your backup center for now, while VLushvitch is still with the Bulls team. - Yeah, that's your drum and replacement. - Yeah, but here's the thing, you were offered multiple second round picks for Andre Drummond. Management decided it would be a good decision to hang on to Andre Drummond because we have to make a push for the playoffs. Ray Charles could have told you they're not going to the playoffs. I mean, that is gross mismanagement, and now he goes to the team that offered you multiple picks. He goes there as a free agent, so you get nothing for him, nothing. Like, what were they looking at? - They were looking at the postseason. But they had no chance of making it or doing anything there. If you said, well, we're not going to trade Demar 'cause we got to try and push. All right, he's your best player, whatever. I don't agree with the decision, but I get it. Andre Drummond was not the difference between you and a championship. - I agree, I agree. But you see what they did here, when I say they, I'm talking about Michael Reinsdorf and the front office, and maybe it was Michael Reinsdorf more so than Art Carney and Mark Eversley. But I would say that the Edict was, hey man, we need to have everybody in place so we can make this playoff run, so we can have the lights on in late April at the United Center. And ultimately, it's fool's goal, Cap, because whenever the Bulls are going to do, say they were in the playoffs, you were never going to get close to any of the top tier teams in the East, and that's the bottom line. - That's correct. You were never going to get close. So now, that was what? The trade deadline was mid-February. - So to March, April made you four months later, you said, nah, you know what? Keep the extra second round picks. We'll hang on to them, and then you can sign them for nothing. Like, that is just gross mismanagement. - I agree, I agree. All we want as fans is for the teams, especially in the fall and into the winter, into the spring, to be relevant. Give us something to watch. We're seeing right now, a bunch of guys in that front office that are just floundering. They're trying to make changes, sure, but the change is going to be all the way to the bottom, 'cause they realize with the amount of money that they're spending on these players. And by the way, make no mistake, this is not a shot at Levine or DeRozan or Vusovich, but understand that your ownization's nowhere close to Boston. That's where you want to be. You're nowhere close to the Knicks or Indiana or Cleveland, and so you're fooling yourself by just spinning your wheels. This is why they must reset this thing. I'm surprised on a rise dwarf watch, quite frankly, I'm surprised this is happening, that this is going to be allowed to reset the organization. But you have no other choice cap, 'cause as is, you're not going anywhere. - You are going absolutely nowhere. - No. - Nowhere. - And even if they had a slot, which they don't, the most attractive free agents that are out there, whether that is LeBron James or Paul George or whoever it might be, none of those guys would pick Chicago if they had the salary appetite to be able to do it. Nobody. - You know the promo that plays here for "Blacken Abdullah" when they say, "Hey, do you miss us?" - Right. - I'm thinking that Gar, Forman, and John Paxson, she had the same promo saying, "Hey, do you miss us?" - Great. - 'Cause really, for everyone, and by the way, a shot out to Bull's Nation, you did it. You wanted Gar and Pax gone. Okay, no problem. The pressure finally gave in to the Bulls where Pax says, "I'll step aside," and they got rid of Gar. But is it better now that it was then? - No, I think it's worse. Look, I'm not a Gar guy, never have been, never will be, because I don't, I think he's a disingenuous guy. I don't think he was good at his job, and I did not trust when I spoke to him that he was telling me the truth. You can say what you want about John's performance as an executive. He had good moments, he had bad moments. He had lucky moments, winning the lottery for Derek. He had unlucky moments. Derek blown his knee out and never being the same. All of that said, the one thing I can always tell you is, Pax A always had the best interests of the franchise in his heart. Maybe he didn't get the job done and win a championship, but he was also incredibly honest. You might not like the answer. You might not like the tone of voice that he used or the language when he addressed you at times, 'cause I got that, and I love John. If I saw John walking down the street, I'd sit and have a drink with him. I love the guy. I think back to when he was a player. But John always was honest to a fault. If you asked him to come on, absolutely. That guy didn't hide. Our tourists even said himself the other day. K-bores got the sound. I guess I should be doing more talking to you guys. I haven't talked to you in a while. Yeah, because you hide. You don't make trades. You don't make good signings. You've run this franchise into the ground. So I take John back, not Gar, but I take John back over these two. Oh, tonight. - Well, Cap, I'm with you. The thing that's shocking to me is like Joe Cowley tweets yesterday about AK and the process and the ideal scenario is that you get to October and none of the Bulls core three, Vusovich, Demar, Levine are on this team. That's his ideal world. And that it's a two year process. You reset this thing. You get back in three years. My issue is AK is going into year five. How are you allowing him to oversee this? I get he's not the root of the problem and it probably goes above him, but we can't do anything about that. You're letting the guy who drafted Patrick Williams, drafted Dailin Terry, traded for Vusovich, built this, got Lonzo Ball, built this thing that didn't work. You're letting him tear it down and rebuild it. That's insane. - No, that is insane. And by the way, and just again, just to make sure and point of fact, you can't win if you don't have stars. This the idea, the notion that the Bulls need a couple of years to turn this around is BS. It is. Look at the top 10 teams in the East from last year's cap, from Boston to the Knicks to Milwaukee to Cleveland, Orlando was five, Indiana, Philadelphia was seven, Miami eight, the Bulls were nine and the Hawks were 10. In the top eight, okay, play in a side of top eight. Every team has a star or multiple stars. What do the Bulls have? That's why it's not just a two year turnaround. It's not, that's not true. You're closer to being Washington than you are the Celtics at this point in time. - You're a hundred percent correct. It's embarrassing where they're at. And now you're going to let the guys that ran it into the ground, made bad decision after bad decision. You're going to let them tear it apart and rebuild it? No thanks. - And again, you can get that lottery, pick that lucky ping pong ball, and that's great. But again, do you trust AK to turn this around? That's the whole thing. I mean, from a strategy, you and I at Kaku put together some packages to ship out some of the veterans on this Bulls team and say, "We're going to build through the draft." Okay, so if you have a draft like this past draft, are you sure that you'll be able to get to where you need to be based on the draft? You just don't build through the draft. This league is about adding on superstars and talent. Not necessarily like a murderous row, three, four, five stars 'cause we're done with the super teams. But I mean, how will this team turn around in two years? I just think that's a lie, especially when it comes to the Bulls. They won't turn around in two years. - No, absolutely not. - It's just a lie. I mean, it's just fool's goal to think that they can do that, especially with AK at the helm. - It's sad because I love the Bulls even when they're bad. Throughout the winter, I come home on a random Wednesday, I'm like, "Oh, got the Bulls tonight." So I watch everything like you do. I watch every Cubs game, every Sox game, every Bulls game, every Blackhawks game. And I watch obviously every Bears game. But then you've got to be a die-hard to be watching all these Bulls game knowing what they've been and where they're headed. - I mean, it's not going well. Bobby Marks, front office executive analyst for ESPN.com. Bobby Marks on Zach Levine's contract. - Literally, there is no market for Zach Levine. They are trying to give him away and attach a first round pick. I've been told that by multiple, multiple people. And that is not happening. So if there's no unloading of the Levine contract, then the Rosen is just basically hanging in the wind. - I know there are people listening right now, Cap, they're saying, why is this show trying to throw Zach Levine overboard? That's not what we're doing. We're talking about a player that is a solid player for any team because you know how much he could score when he's healthy. But what we're saying is that you're not winning with him. He's at the reason why you're not winning. The reason why you're not winning is because of the organization. No one's trying to throw or trying to chase Zach Levine out of town. What we're talking about is, is that as is, Zach Levine is the face of a losing franchise. And you'd rather for him to trade him to a place where he can win or go someplace else than to just be languishing here in Chicago, scoring 25, 26 points a game and then losing by 20. And we've seen that a lot under Zach Levine and his leadership with his Bulls team. You know, if you go back to when Zach got his contract, he's what, got three years left on it, right? If you go back two years ago, I remember having this debate with my brother and I said, you can't just not sign the guy then he walks out the door and you get nothing. That's just mismanagement to the highest degree. You should have traded him before you had to extend him or you have to extend him. And my brother said, when you have a bad fit, you cut bait and move on rather than compounding it by giving him $215 million more dollars. I said, what I just said to you, you can't just let an asset walk away for nothing. They'd have been better off letting him walk out. He was right, I was wrong. They should have just said, you know what? He's not the player we thought he was gonna be, we're gonna move on and let him go. - They had to pay him. The CBA basically forces them into it because they don't get any money back if they don't. - But that's what I'm saying to you, you're still spending $215 million of your owner's money for nothing, you would have been better off today 'cause now you have to attach a pick to get rid of him, Shay. - No, but you would have had that season, 'cause you gotta remember, if you go back to the season that they extended him, by not extending him, they didn't get any cap space back. They could only spend it because they already had his rights and they could go over the cap to keep him. You always had to pay him. The mistake was that following February when you clearly were not good enough. You should have moved him then when people were interested, but you held on, then you held on another year and now you're stuck, no one wants him. - I just, I'm just marveling at my phone right now, cap looking at some of the moves that's being made here with the NBA trade deadline. - You know, I know as people listen, maybe someone's thinking, "Well, man, if our tourist corner show is so bad at his job, why don't they get someone that is proven in that job like a Sam Presti?" Sam Presti, I'm not sure if he'd be able to do what he's doing right now in Oklahoma City. I'm just looking right now, they just signed Isaiah Hartenstein, who was the Hart and soul of that Nix team, by the way. I mean, if you take a look, it asked Tibbs, "What did the Hartenstein bring to the table?" Now he's with Oklahoma City on a three year, 87 million dollar deal. They made a couple of other signings as well. Isaiah Joe agreed to a four year deal, 48 million. There's a mover and shaker right there. There's a guy that picked up the phone and say, "Hey man, we really love Alex Caruso to help our basketball team from a defensive standpoint. We'll give you Josh Giddy." Well, we like to have one of your draft picks. No, we're not doing that. I'll hang up now, you know, and obviously, the current show was said, "Okay, we'll do the deal." Even though you know they should have been able to get a draft pick, but that's the kind of hard liner and great GM that you need. Sam Presti, that's the guy that should be in the front office for the Bulls. A hard liner knows how to be able to cultivate young talent. That was the best team of the Western Conference last year, 'cause they were the number one seed, and they're building on it. What are the Bulls doing? They're building on a sand castle. - That's a great way to put it. And as the sand keeps getting drier and dry, it just starts to crumble. So I disagree with Shay. Shay, you're telling me if you could go back to two years ago, you'd still sign Zach Levine? - Yeah, I would, I said they had to then. I would do it, and then I would have done what I said. - I'm asking you what the benefit of hindsight. - Yeah, I'd still do it, because it would benefit a hindsight. - Why? - I would have traded him February 2023 when the Lakers wanted him, and you said no. The whole time, like remember February 2023, we got in debates on this show, 'cause I said, just rip the Band-Aid off, trade him, get whatever you can back, and reset this early. - That's why you shouldn't have ever signed him. You should have just let him go. You can go, and trade him back. - It doesn't matter, Shay, it's still a cash outlay of 215 million. - You would have gotten, that would have come back when you traded him in February, like I wanted them to do a year and a half ago. - And then I gotta take a bunch of crap back to match up salaries, no. If I could go back in time, again, I was the one that was right there saying you have to sign him, doesn't save you on the cap, you got them, if I could go back in time, get out, get out. It's insane to think any other way. - Well, in hindsight cap, you would have built better around Zach Levine, 'cause the idea that, well, I'm not gonna pay him, well, you say, okay, that's one of our guys, but we're gonna try and get better than that from an offensive standpoint, then you'd find defensive pieces around him. If, here's the thing, Zach Levine, you probably would have done the deal, but you would have added more offense around him. Zach Levine as a centerpiece, we saw this in Minnesota, it does not work, he can't be the guy for a team. He's not built that way, cap, he just isn't. He is a piece to a team. You, in hindsight, would have said, all right, I like Zach's offense, but we gotta do a lot more. And they tried with DeRosen and with Vusovich, and it did not work, because still, Levine was the centerpiece of the team, and that was the mistake. It was, we saw it from Minnesota. They tried, it just didn't work. - Yeah, again, for me. - You would have signed him if you would have added more. - If I could have. - More offensive pieces, how's that not fair? - Well, because the way it was already constructed with Vusovich who underachieved, with DeRosen, who's not a three point stretch the floor, threat, there was no place for more offensive pieces. If you didn't have DeRosen, that's a different argument then. Then you could have gone and signed a shooter, whether it's Max Trus or somebody better. Whatever shooter you could have gone and gotten, it started to modernize your offense. Your offense is not modern, 'cause you don't have the players to play the modern game. - Well, DeRosen and Levine never fit. - No, never. But I still, you still had to sign him. Like, if you lose him, if you let him go, you get nothing back. You don't get any cap relief. - Then do a sign and trade, but don't keep him here. - Well, you couldn't, it was an extension, right? - Yes. - So you could, like, if you don't, you don't get the cap space back and he leaves for free. My point was always sign him, but be ready to trade him immediately, 'cause he will lose value going forward. - And I'm not sure you could have. - I still don't believe you could have. - We'll never know, 'cause A.K. chose continuity. February 2023 was this moment. You can go into the tax and get players to try to be better, or you can ship Levine and go in the tank. And he chose, "Let's do neither." And now you're stuck forever. - Yep, that's the one over his head that says, "We have to keep the lights on for the plan." That's what happens, Shane. That's what happens around here. I mean, ownership is one thing, but you have to let your GMs generally manage. This is what happens, Cap. We look at this situation, we say, "Wait a minute. Is A.K. doing a bad job?" Yes, but is ownership even worse? Yes. It's the same. - It's just bad. It's bad all around. - 3-1-2-3-2-3-2-E-S-P-N-3-3-2-3-7-7-6 is our telephone number. Speaking of bad, the Cubs lost two out of three against the Brewers. We'll talk about that coming up next on Cap and J-Hood. (upbeat music) - Cap and J-Hood on back. - Appreciate you guys. I listened to you streaming at the ESPN 1000 app. - Chicago's home for sports, ESPN Chicago. - It's a Cap and J-Hood morning show on ESPN 1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. We're with you till 10 o'clock, then Mike Greenberg comes in at 10, followed by Carmine and Yerko at 12. Wetland Sylvie, 2-30 to 6-30 into Blacken Abdullah, 6-30 to 8 right here. Chicago's home for sports, ESPN 1000 and Cap. Tough weekend for the Chicago Cubs, losing 2 out of 3 against Milwaukee. The White Sox went 2 out of 3 against the hapless Rockies team. You think the Sox are bad. You should see the Rockies. Pretty bad. That was their Friday, by the way. Two-hour rain delay was a 6-10 start. Two-hour rain delay. And finally, the game got underway. We was there with neighborhood housing services of Chicago. We appreciate them spending time with us at the ESPN 1000 suite. So thank you NHSChicago.org for spending time with us on Friday. But Cap, 2 out of 3 against the Brewers. Sometimes on the schedule, there is a gut check, a measuring stick when you take a look at the schedule. Yeah, it's a long season. But the point is though, is that it's Craig Council's old team. And the Cubs, there's nothing that gets this team excited. It's Sandberg night. Ryan Sandberg being honored with the statue. Even that was just flat. The Ball Club is just joyless and flat. And that happens when you lose. But the only little bit of energy I saw from the Cubs came from Justin Steele on Saturday. I loved when Justin Steele-- first of all, there's a rundown. And you're taught in Little League. You run at the base runner, and you run him back to the base he's coming from, not toward the base he's going to. Justin runs, throws it to second, and all of a sudden the guy turns, goes the other way, and nobody's covering third. The gut by the time he gets past the third baseman Morrell, there's nobody at third base. Safe. Now we get a bunch. He turns. There's nobody down at first. And the next thing you know, they score, I think, three runs in the inning, and all of a sudden your lead dissipates. You end up winning the ball game on a two run home run by Ian Hap. But it doesn't excuse this shoddy fielding that went on. We've seen Cody Bellinger, as we talked about earlier in the show, doubled off of first, because he forgets how many outs there are, and he's all the way around second, like, oh god. And he goes back, and he's out by a mile. This stuff keeps happening. Chris Morrell gets picked off of first base. It all blows back on the manager, because the manager, not the GM, not the team president, the manager is the one who sets the tone, teaches the fundamentals, and demands you play a certain way. And when your team's not playing that way, that's what you get. Well, I love the adjusted steal, came off the mound, and exploded at the top step, wake the F up. And he said it multiple times. And after the game, he didn't hide from it. He said, look, it came from a place of love. I think we got a lot more talent here than we've showed. And I was frustrated, but again, it came from the heart, because I care, loved it, absolutely loved it. Have you seen that from the manager at all? No. Have you seen that from anyone else who's considered a team leader? How about your high-speed player? Cody, I haven't seen it. Have you seen it from Dansby? We got from him, it's Juke, with a chuckle, like, it's Juke. Have you seen it from anybody else considered to be a leader on the team? Nobody. No. Not in a press conference, not in a pre-game interview, and Jesse, or Taylor McGregor, or Elise Mettaker, or anybody else. Nobody till Justin Steele did it for the entire world to see it. I saw it on SportsCenter, I saw it on Fox. It was everywhere. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. When you're putting together a roster cap, obviously it's about numbers, ability, how they can help you win games. But also it's about personalities. And at this point in time, unless I'm missing it, I feel like Jett has put together the same personality. And I think that that is really not great for a locker room. There's always going to be knuckleheads, and guys that are allowed, and guys that are, you know, are jokesters, guys that are serious. It's always a mixture of blend. Any championship team that we have covered over the years, we know the different personalities of the individuals in the locker room. But with this Cubs team, it feels like it's the same. It feels beige. It does. The ball club, starting with the manager, it just feels beige. I guess the excitement happens when you win. But during the tough times, who's there to get you out of those doldrums? And I just feel like the Cubs are just kind of like marching, you know, toy soldiers. Just strike out again nine times for a game. Relief pitching just is the bottom. It just feels the same. It does, and it's just disappointing. And look, not everybody has to be Aussie gay and going, you know, 0 to 90. And I love that. That's my personality. I love the way he managed his team. And if a guy did something wrong, he said, you're not going to hear anything that I say to the media that I haven't already said to you. But Aussie understood holding people accountable. Craig can tell me all he wants that he holds people accountable. When you lead the league and outs on the bases and you have your highest paid guy get doubled off of first, one of your guys that you gave a chance to get picked off of first. I mean, come on, man, what are we doing here? Yes. And then on the other side of town, you have the White Sox against the Rockies in which the Sox take two out of three. And it's time not only to celebrate, it's time to growl. Luis Robert Jr. back at the wall. And he, yes, lap and down, on the prowl. He ties the game here in the sixth inning. Here's David Kaplan. Look, John has had a rocky beginning to his tenure. Yeah. But he spoke the other day and said to Stoney, you know, I know it's been tough at times. And thank you for always being there. Look, he got an opportunity to call games for a major league team. And everything he does is under the microscope. I thought that was a fun call. It's a bad team and a bad season. I give him credit on that one. And I liked what he said to Stoney. I did. I know everyone wants to pile on John. But I feel like maybe it's a learning experience for him. He's had fun with that called lop and t-r-r-r. I liked it. It entertained me. The south side stand up and the haters and all that. That's in the past. Push it to the side. We need to just give the guy a break. That's funny. You know, Jay Mora, if I can bring you in for a moment. It does say here on the description, John Shriffon, growling, and Steve Stone's face. And that has been the thought on social media. Somehow someone believes that that growl as Shriffon gets up at his growl said Stone's face. I like the vision. I like what that looks like. I'm sure he turned to the right, but he's just like, wow. I just let Stoney have it, and Stoney was like, wow. All right. I just think that's hilarious. Object after ball clubs lost 62 games, just stand up and just growl in Stone's face. I like that vision. It's so ridiculous. It was funny. It was funny. I just feel like-- Four tie game, by the way. Not a game's tied. Again, I feel like we have everything. J-Morse got the whole sheet of John Shriffon drops to play. I just feel like, OK, enough. He's trying hard. He poured his heart out to Stoney there during the game. And just looked like I called the games. That was fun. I laughed at it. I thought it was cool. Radio Losers. I said that from the beginning. Just called the game. Thank God I have Lennon and DJ in my years all season. I had no problem with the-- Who's laughing there? That was fun. The radio Losers, the haters, that's in the past. And hopefully they never come back again. Yeah, it was bizarre. I do think we're bordering on-- not this show, but some people are bordering on obsession with John Shriffon, where anything he says or does becomes, did you see the latest Shriffon moment? And I'm like, OK, we get it. Right, that one was fun. The other ones, he wishes he could have him back probably after some deep reflection. I was at a rough start. I was at Burelympics at Chris Black's house. I walked in, Charlie Bevins and Kevin Zepack are both there. And they hounded me when I walked in the door immediately. Did you see the latest Shriffon? Did you see the latest Shriffon? You got to hear it. I'm like, OK, guys, I get it. Yes, it's-- again, I don't know about this stuff. It's I see it on social media, because I don't hear it live. But it's interesting. On Saturday? Yeah, I just don't. I usually don't. I like to hear DJ Growl at Len. Get off of me, out of here. Wow. Can I ask a question? What exactly? Because if Huddie and I and you and J-Moor went to have cocktails, J-Moor's not a drinker, you could drink more than me. Huddie could eight times more than me. I'm just not good at it. So I have a cocktail. Two is a lot for me. What is a Burelympics? Because I would absolutely be one of the first ones eliminated in the preliminary heat. Well, you're going to find out next on Captain J-Hood. Yeah. Here's to Dave's headline, with Captain J-Hood. Well, not a great weekend for the Chicago Cubs. They continue their league leading number of outs on the base pass as they drop two of three to the Milwaukee Brewers' Cubs get to day off. And then the Phillies come to town. All be it. No cows for ever. No Bryce for both. Now on the injured list, the White Sox take two of three. They dropped Sunday's game at two of three from the Colorado Rockies. They also have today off free agency has begun. In the NBA, Bulls got their off season started with a five-year $90 million deal for Patrick Williams. They also signed a backup center today. Andre Drummond signed a deal in Philadelphia. And NHL free agency begins today. Reports to the Hawks will sign Toronto winger Tyler Bertuzzi at 43 points in 80 games with Toronto last season. Per sports net, Toronto. In addition, ESPN is calling the Blackhawks a dark horse to sign Tampa Bay Lightning star Steven Stamkos. Cubs, again, have today off as do the White Sox. Game-- [MUSIC PLAYING] Follow Chicago's home for sports on Twitter at ESPN1000. Cap and Jay Hood are back on ESPN Chicago, Chicago's home for sports. It's a Captain Jay Hood morning show on ESPN1000 and streaming on the ESPN Chicago app. We'll have the Captain Jay Hood cut of the day right around the corner. But you know, Cap, I don't know if you've noticed, but she's been wearing a ribbon and a medal around his neck all day. And it has won as in first place, as in the best. But when it was the best in, we turned the shade door in now. What were you the best in over the weekend that you're wearing a ribbon? I was a beer Olympics gold medalist at Chris Black's house, beer Olympics over the weekend. Adam of Dalla, myself, and another guy made up one of the teams, one of the countries, if you will. We were the best. What country did you represent? What kind of name is Dornley? Know what I mean? We drew flags out of a bag. Pure coincidence landed us on Russia. No surprise, are you, Cap? You drew Russia. Absolutely not. Did you have like a CCCP shirt? Oh, man. I did not. But we do have a listener that walks by with the CCCP shirt. You've seen it, right? Yes. You just can't let go of the past. It's like the old school Russian hockey shurzy. So the Russian judge, or the Russian in this case, Shay Norling, you were number one in the beer Olympics. That's right. Proud winner. I don't know if this is something to be proud of or not at age 29 as I'm on the doorstep of 30, that I can still win beer Olympics, but Cap, the end of last segment, is apparently completely unfamiliar with this as an event. I am. I'm not a beer guy, sorry. So it's basic. It's not, you don't have to be a beer guy. It's just a series of events, it's unbelievable. I lose. I would not do well there. Hoodie, Hoodie would dominate. They didn't invite Hoodie because they knew that's actually like having Tiger Woods playing and crying against like the Nike Tour. There's a reason why I was not invited to that. Could you imagine? I mean, it'd be dry. It'd be a dry county when I'm done. That's correct. But could I ask which beer did you have that you could be able to win set Olympics? Oh, Jules. No, I was drinking the Delos, having a nice time. And there were also some Seltzers involved. There was some liquor involved at a certain point. I shotgunned a beer at the end. Everybody at the end decided that they were like, "Oh, I don't want to do another beer, "so I'm going to take shots." And I'm like, "This is beer Olympics." So I'm honorable. I refuse to take the time advantage of taking a shot and I shotgunned a beer instead. We had to do, there was Flipkop. Cap, are you familiar with Flipkop? Yeah, I am. So there was a Flipkop tournament. There was a beer pong tournament. We played that here this weekend, yes. You played beer pong? Yeah, I didn't drink the beer. I had a regular cocktail instead. Well, that's fine. No, this was the first time, maybe since college, that the cups we were playing beer pong with were filled with alcohol. So every time the cup got removed, somebody on the team had to drink what was in the cup. I haven't played that way in a long time. I was pretty sideways by the end of the evening. We had Flipkop tournament, beer pong tournament. There was a putting challenge once we were all liquored up and we're probably not putting straight. There was like the indoor putting carpet. That's good. That's always good. And this is at the Black household? Yeah, there was a relay race. There was another event as well. Oh, there was a water balloon toss a couple times. Let me just tell you, I've never been to Chris's place. I would bet it is immaculate. Black strikes me and his wife Autumn that their place is not only neat, clean, like it is as organized as it comes. Polacial estate, it's beautiful. That's how that's the vibe I get from Chris, that his place, you don't go, "Oh, look at this stack of mail over there." Two days old, the newspaper. No, Black's place is put to freakin' gather. It is, and I'll tell you another thing. Chris Black, wonderful host. That doesn't surprise him. Chris and his wife, thank you for having us. Wonderful host. Love it. I'm just disgusted at cap. Why? What did I do? The data ends and why, but I'm disgusted that you just somehow just shy away from the beer conversation. Yeah, you're not a beer guy, but I'm sure in college that you saw this, right? I drank beer in college. No, no, I'm talking about you saw something similar to the beer Olympics in college, I'm sure. No, no, we did beer pong. So there wasn't a contest. We shot gun beers. So there was never a contest of who can drink the most beers in a night. I'm sure you've seen this. Yeah, but not like a beer Olympics. There would just be some idiot who drank way too many beers, but never a beer Olympics. We shot gun beers where you put the hole in the side, top to top, too. There you go. Do you ever do a case race, Kaplan? I don't know what that is. Case race, you team up with somebody. Typically, we did this in college. So me and my dorm mate would get a 24 pack or whatever, and all the other people who lived in the hall, all of them in their dorm mate would all get 24 packs, sit in a room and whoever whichever dorm drinks 24 beers, the fastest wins. Yeah, right. And then you'd finish the 24 and then tell everyone the time is all or Mark Dantonio don't know what they're doing. No, at the time, both teams were incredibly good. This is lately. Are you kidding? At the time, Michigan State was undefeated and root to a Rose Bowl, and Michigan and basketball was starting the season. Pre-season number two. And then this guy is involved in beer pong, but just want you to know, front, folks, just everybody that's listening, he did not drink any of the beer. At some point, you just have to be a dude. I don't know when this will be. I drank. I drank. I had booze. I wasn't drinking water. Unbelievable. I'm not a beer guy. We want me to tell you. I want you to tell me that it's OK for people to have a beer, even you. It's OK. But if I don't like beer, why should I drink it? What kind of American are you that you don't like beer? I just don't. This was my point at Beer Olympics. We get to the relay race and it starts with you have to chug, and everybody's like, oh, well, I don't want to chug. And I do a shot. I'm like, what, what planet am I on? What has happened to this great country where we can't do chug a beer anymore? I actually got shots yesterday, hoodie. Yeah? Yeah. Multiple. Yeah. So you had your doctor over, then what happened? No. We were at right here, you can see it on Twitter, on YouTube, Jerry's bar, and we did shots of Fireball. Hmm. What was it now? Was it a non-alcoholic fireball? I know you have to watch yourself. I mean, that's how it works with you. I had the non-alcoholic fireball. Still good. Take that. No. It was the real stuff. Oh, the real stuff. It was let it. Yeah. I can't believe that you had fireball. Fireball is that'll kill you. That stuff. The sugar in that, that next day, hang over brutal. I had two shots of fireball. Man, did you read the ingredients before you took those shots? No. I just did it. Okay. Because you usually want to, you're very careful about those things. I am. Or as I just like to have a good time. The family was out, we walked over to this bar, and they're like, just like hoodie with it. Just be a guy. Please. Just be a dude. My kids are all in their 30s. They're like, "We're doing shots of fireball." Just doing it. That's all I did. It is the cap and Jhood cut of the day is right around the corner. So we got to give you the story about Yottie or Molina. We need to hear this. Oh, God. Captain Jhood. Captain Jhood. I'm back. That's what I thought I was out. They pull me back in. All Chicago's home for sports, ESPN Chicago. Now time for the cap and Jhood cut of the day. It's brought to you by our great friends at Chicago Cut Steakhouse. I was there the other day, spectacular being out on the patio on a gorgeous, gorgeous late afternoon. David Flamin, Matt Moore's spot is on La Salle, Northside of the Chicago River Jboard. Yo. Yes, it's boring, but it's a sport. Oh. Whatever. It's not boring. Okay, then you're boring. All right. Pat. In the NL side, young race, he's... I don't forget Suzuki either, kid. What is going on today? Well, you're calling all these others out. But Suzuki was other than Steel's, Suzuki was the star of the game. I haven't heard his name mentioned, "Pay that man his respect." All right. Say Suzuki with a great performance as well. Thank you. Not to be forgotten. You could have let me finish the question. Yes. You build a culture of winning by winning and keeping guys together, not rolling over in the fetal position, Shea. I mean, Shea. What is... What's in the water? Somebody mess with you this morning. Who pissed in your Cheerios? Pardon my language. Nobody, baby. Let's go. Hi. Hi. Good. Is he not a little more combative with me today than normal? I'm just having fun, baby. He's always like this. Come on. Goodness. On Tuesdays. Oh. Mmm. Real Monday vibes for me on a Tuesday. Oh, hold on a second. Just... Sorry. The honey oven, oh, it's honey nut Cheerios. Why don't we do that, guys? Why do we have to make grunting noises in the bathroom? The house. Mmm. Oh. Gets you done quicker. I mean, that's ridiculous, though. Good play. I don't ever hear my wife. No. No. And if you did, you'd be very alarmed. I'd be like, huh? You're right in there? Yeah, hon. Mmm. You'd be very alarmed, would you not, Cap? Correct. But us as guys, though, I mean, that's sex. We're just going to bathroom. That's it. Ah. Ooh. Mmm. Wow. Man, you were losing 8.30. Can't wait. Go ahead. We'll ask you about those grain noises. Yeah. Man, when you go to the bathroom, you ever make that noise? Aww. 8.35. Out of the box. And that's all, folks. Thank you. Hey, Captain James, cut of the day. Fast. Brought to you by Chicago Cut Steakhouse Gorgeous Day, set on the patio. It's amazing. On LaSalle. On the north side of the Chicago River. So what's wrong with Yada or Molina? So he's managing his little kid's Little League team. Unfortunately for him, the name of the team is the Cubs. So he's taking it to heart. He's wearing red, white, and blue Cubs-themed Nikes. He's got the whole cub uniform, the travel bag, like the players have like, like the real deal here. It's not like he got something at Dick's Sporting Goods. It's like he called the Cubs and got one, like the real bag. He's got the crew neck sweatshirt, the pants, the hat, the whole deal. Look, I love my kids. If I had to manage them and their team was the Cardinals, I'd wear a windbreaker over a T-shirt and I'd just put the hat on as little as I had to. Dressing full Cardinals gear? Not a chance. Would you for the twins? I would not. Oh, you know, you know me and me and how much I despise the twins. Absolutely not. Brutal. Jeez. What are you doing, Yada? Maybe I always want to be a cub. Maybe. Maybe that is the case. Hey, it's like if I ever have a kidney place, Pee Wee football, and forever whatever reason the team is branded after like the University of Michigan, you're finding a different team. Oh, my God. You're just not playing on that team. Excuse me, Mr. Norling's on the phone. Yeah, my kid can't play on that team. We thank you for listening and calling in and being part of the program here on Captain J. Hood. Thanks to you for listening and watching our thanks to Shay and J. Moore. How about we do this tomorrow at 7? Let's do it. 7 a.m. July 4th week. Got a great day, everybody. So long, everybody. Take that from Chicago. ♪ My job is... ♪ (laughing)