Kap & J. Hood

6/25 9 AM: Fans Are Losing Hope!

Hour 3: Baseball fans in Chicago are upset and believe both Cubs and White Sox don't care. Jed Hoyer on the hot seats due to the lack of moves made to better each team. Are the Cubs showing you they don't care? Plus, the Kap & J. Hood Cut of the Day.

Duration:: 45m
Broadcast on:: 25 Jun 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

(upbeat music) - Good morning, Chicago. And welcome into the Cap and Jhood Morning show. I'm the ESPN 1,000. And streaming on the ESPN Chicago app with David Kaplan, Jonathan Hood with you. We've got Jay, we've got Jay Moore, we got you. Here on this Tuesday morning, open poll lines, hurry up, 3, 1, 2, 3, 2, ESPN, 3, 3, 2, 3, 7, 7, 6 are a telephone number. As we talk to you about a number of things, including last night, Cap stayed up, so you didn't have to to watch the Cubs lose to the San Francisco Giants yesterday. Here's a little sample of Cap from his YouTube channel. Go to the recap, hit that subscribe button, that way you never miss something like this on the recap. I'm so freaking mad that I stay up late, I gotta get up early to go to work, just like the rest of you who put your heart in there, your time, your money to watch a (beep) effort by this team and an organization that does not give a (beep) because if they did, there's no way that's the bullpen they've run out there. We knew at the start of the season this bullpen wasn't gonna be good. This bad blow there, 17th save tonight. I'll take you through the ninth in a minute, but you know what the Chicago Cubs are telling their fan base? That's what they're telling them. F you, we don't care. We don't make trades in June, nobody makes a trade in June. Guess what, teams that wanna win wouldn't tolerate this, but you take all of us for granted. That's a (beep) loss. Yes, they should have scored seven, eight, nine runs tonight. They were four for 15 with men in scoring position. They left 12 men on base. They don't have a great team. They don't, but guess what? Four to two in the ninth, that gets a team that's lost five straight. The adjusted steal is handcuffed all night long. And the best you have is to hand the ball to Colton Effing Brewer. That's what you're gonna close with. Colton Brewer, and guess what? After he gives up a couple, guess who they go to? Drew Effing Smiley. He stinks. Drew Smiley. I throw harder in the 60 it overly than this guy does, and I got better command. The bottom line is this organization says that. F you Cubs fans, we don't give a (beep) we're not gonna make a move. 'Cause we've got the greatest prospects in the history of the world, and we won't trade any of 'em to go get somebody who's a major league reliever. I'm not asking for a closer. I'm asking for somebody who should be in the big leagues. Just a decent freaking arm. This is (beep) (beep) You people don't care about your fan base, 'cause if you did, you'd either fire people, or you'd have some freaking balls to go get a reliever. (screams) - David Kaplan, last night, late night. Folks, this is what happens. When you have to stay up late, and you see your team lose, not just lose. Cap, you always know, you wanna lose a ballgame here or there. It's the way that they're losing. When you have the lead, and you just trickle it down your leg late in the games, where you have zero confidence in your ball club after the seventh inning. That's how it makes you feel. The reason why you went off, not just because it was late, not just because you haven't received your back from Timmy Hose in Toronto. Is this the idea that, all right, here we go, late innings, that's when it's bad as a baseball fan, where you got zero confidence late, that your team can be able to hold on to a lead. - I literally was laying there on the couch. Wife and the dogs are in bed upstairs. - Good night, Mindy. - And I'm watching the game, and... - Take that. - When I saw him go to Colton Brewer, to start then, I'm like, wait, wait, what? What are we doing here? Colton Brewer, he was lucky to escape the last time he barely got out of it. And I immediately thought, this isn't gonna go well. Bam, hustle double out of Matt Chapman, a little blooper that fell in, and then they get another hit. Next thing you know, there's a sack fly, it's four, three, get 'em out. We go to Drew Smiley, another sack fly, and then they intentionally walk a player. Who's having a good year? Bass is loaded, he walks in the winning room. - Three walks cap. - Yeah, and multiple hits. Worst bullpen in baseball. Worst bullpen, and again, other than claiming Tyson Miller, who they should have, you're not gonna use Naris, leave Tyson Miller in there. Pitched two thirds of an inning and was great. Colton Brewer, closing? - I'll kiss my, you know what, that's just embarrassing. - It is, that's who they are. Now imagine yourself as a White Sox fan. See, the difference between you and I is, I know my teams get zero hope and zero future. Zero. You don't believe that, because you think it's funny that me and Dr. Bruce Kaplan are going through hell right now, you think it's funny. - I feel bad for you guys, you are my friends. (laughing) - Take that. You don't care. - I do. - Because you don't care. It's fine, but I already know, you don't care. You're in it for the relationships. That's all it is. That's it. We already know, the audience knows, Cap. You don't care. Here's the recap of the White Sox. Boy, they don't look very good. Shut up by the Dodgers. Anyway. You don't care. But the difference between you and I is, on your side of the ledger with the Cubs, they're supposed to be winning. - Yes. - And this is funny to the Brewer fan one, but two, I don't know the way out of it. That's the thing. It has to be on the team. As a matter of fact, Jed said as much. Last time we heard from Jed, he puts it on the ball club to be able to turn this around. At this point in time, if the Cubs keep playing like this last place floundering, there is no hat in hand for the players to say, "Please don't trade us, we're gonna turn this around." It might stay the same, but you're gonna get the same results if he doesn't turn around. It's about personnel, Cap. It's about personnel. - They have the same record today that they had exact same time last year. And we know how that worked out. They turned it around and got rolling. There's a different vibe this year. I don't see it. I don't. - The heat has to be on Jed Hoyer more so than Craig Council. I'm starting to, we had some calls that were on hold and they dropped off a little bit criticizing council. Can I just tell you something? If you wanna criticize council, criticize David Ross from last year too. If that's where you wanna place the blame. Because it's the same problem. It's the same problem. David Ross says, "Who do you want me to put in?" And every time I push a button, it implodes on me. Same thing with council. What's council gonna do, Cap? You gonna put a position player in there? Can't do that. It's not 10 runs or more. It's not that. So what are you gonna do about it? - There's not a lot you can do about it. There really is not other than go out and make a deal. You have a top three farm system, top four. Unless you're trying to always win every deal. Every one. I mean, kill you in the deal. You're telling me that there's no one on any of the crappy teams in baseball. Is that what you're telling me? That nobody on a bad team will trade you a reliever. I don't believe that. I truly don't believe that. The Blue Jays are eight games under their 16 games out in their division. They won't move anybody. I don't believe it. The White Sox, you couldn't call and make a deal with them. The A's. - Not a good idea. - The Angels, the Marlins, the Rockies, none of these teams are gonna make a deal. They look at them and they say, "Look at you Cubs. "You're down here with us. "You wanna make a deal for what?" And all they're gonna try is, do is try to pilfer your farm system. That's all they'll try to do. - You remember that when the Cubs traded Samarja and Jason Hamill to get Addison Russell. If less, out of my mind, I think that was 4th of July. - They helped the ball club defensively. Samarja was an underachiever here. - He was fine with the Cubs he underachieved for the White Sox. July 4, 2014. Cubs traded starting pitchers, Jeff Samarja and Jason Hamill to the A's for 2012 first-round pick Addison Russell, who started for your World Series team that was really good. - Sure, so to find-- - Then got in trouble. - Yep. - Yeah, that was July 4th. That's next week. - Yeah. - Oh, tell me I'm waiting till the end of July to fix this. - Okay. - Yes, bullpen. - But we go back to the question still stands. Yes, you could add on to this team. Does that necessarily put you into the playoffs one and solidify you in the playoffs? 'Cause that's the goal. I believe that the Cubs should be a playoff team, but not the way that they're playing. Even with the moves that you make, you're still not in the upper echelon of the big teams in Major League Baseball. You're not. You don't have enough. - No, but you could get to the playoffs if you didn't blow 17 saves. - I agree. I agree with you. You could be a Cup fan or you could be Pedro Grafalle yesterday as a Sox lost three and nothing to the Dodgers. Crochet went five and two thirds. Shay Aston, Shadow No Shot, could he be in the running for the Cy Young? Well, I mean, he was fantastic against a really good hitting team in the Dodgers. Six strikeouts who five and two thirds. Pulled after 91 pitches. Grafalle says-- - We're all on this thing together when it comes to Garrett. I mean, that wasn't a strategic move. Who wants to take Garrett Crochet out of a baseball game that's zero, zero. It's not a strategic move. It's just, I've been talking about this for a long time now. We have to control the workload. We have to manage the workload. And this is a part of it. This kid only threw less than 30 innings last year. He's on pace right now for 170, 180 innings if he keeps continues to go. So, we're gonna continue to work on his workload management. We're gonna continue to talk him through things. I let him know after the fifth that he only had a few pictures left. And obviously he's a big time competitor. That's why he is who he is. And one of the probably top five pitchers and top five starters in the game right now. And I want him to be pissed off when he comes out of the game. I want him to. But I thought he handled it well and he went out there and did his job. He had a, you know, that, what got him a little bit was that first inning. You know, he threw 24 pitches in that first inning. And I think, you know, he lost about seven or eight pitches there that, you know, if we could have back, he might have been, but if there's that. (laughing) - Not good. - Or you could be a Sox fan. You hear this, right? Workload. So it's not about winning games. It's about workload. So that's what I was saying to you earlier that Garrett has gone almost double his career high in innings. He's had a Tommy John in the recent past. So they're going to manage his workload or they're going to trade him. I was just reading the athletic at break. The Kenrose Doll Patrick Mooney column on trade rumors. There are multiple scouts, but the Padres first and foremost that are scouting crochet and the Sox are scouting their system. They've been brittle. The Padres in their starting rotation. They just need a shot in the arm to get that team motivated. Machado's out by the way with an injury. So that's the, but here's the thing though. If you're the Dodgers, like, man, we're a good hitting team. We can't get anything. We can't get to crochet at all. Oh, they're taking out the ball game. Steve Wilson, let's eat. And that was all. - That'll be all. Thanks for coming. - That's awesome. - You know, but this is where we are. I cannot wait for, I cannot wait for training camp. - Oh my God, Shay, please. Is there any way you can call, make a call to get us to training camp? - DMB and draft tomorrow, brother. - I get it. - Who do you, at this point, I'd take a medically induced coma. - I mean, I'm honest to God, I'd rather have that than watch the Cubs. I would take a medically induced coma rather than watch this team find a way to lose a game every night. - I'm so sick of it. - It's just unbelievable. As I say this at nauseum, just entertain me until they open the gates at Lake Forest. Give us something and we're looking at two last place teams here, Cap. We waited all winter. You and I who love baseball, and this is what we get? This is it? - You're right. - Oh, man. - Yep. - Willow Springs, Mike is on, Cap and Jay Hunt. Hey, Mike, good morning. - Hey, who do you, Cap? Thanks for taking my call. - Yes, sir. - What's up, man? - I don't know if it's possible or if we want to. I'm gonna try and knock Cap off the lead slightly. Cap, you kind of stole my thunder a little bit by going around on some teams. The Angels have a guy by the name of Carlos Estebas. He's pitching lights out. That part wouldn't cost the club hardly anything. He's gonna be a free agent and he's on the wrong side of 30, I think. But it would be a perfect fit for the Cubs right now, which is sad to say, 'cause they're a big market team. And the catcher for the Rockies is in the exact same boat. And I guarantee it, the lawyer's looking at both. It's not gonna cost them any other top 10 prospects and you solve two problems. I don't get it. I don't understand why they're not moving. - Well, you're not seeing deals at all around baseball 'cause these GMs hoard their prospects like they're gold. - They're not gonna have to give up top guys. You talk about Oakland, they got a guy by the name of Miller who's got five years of control. That would cost them. Wade Horton and Owen Cassie, et cetera, et cetera. The other two guys make a deal right now. - Yeah, you can't get Diaz 'cause he's on the injured list. - Edwin Diaz? - Edwin Elias Diaz. - Elias Diaz, yeah. - From the Colorado Rockies, their catcher. He's got a left calf stream. He is out 10 day injured list. So he's not ready to come back and he's 33 years of age. Tough to be a catcher with a calf stream. I just wanna know whether rubber meets the road for you when it comes to trading your coveted minor league talent for proven winners today. 'Cause there's some guys there that you feel like can be the next generation of the Cubs, but you're not ready to go there yet. - Right, I'm not giving up on Cade Horton. I'm not trading Moises by a sterile, so young catcher. There's a handful of guys. Dude, you've got a top three farm system. I'm looking at the rankings here. - Okay, Baltimore's number one, but after that, some have the Cubs, some have the Dodgers. - Yeah. - You've got players. You should know your system better than anybody else. Yes, it's gonna hurt if you have to go do it. But guess what? You didn't do your job over the winter. You broke camp with a bad bullpen. Either fix it or you might find yourself out of work. - It's true. By the way, I saw Ed Howard the other day on Marquee. - Yeah, he looks good. - Yeah, good swing. - Came back from his back injury a couple of years ago. Yeah, he looks really good. - South Bend, is it? - He's at South, I believe he's at South Bend. - He's watching the other day. Good, sweet swing. - Short stop. - Yeah. - Maybe Jed should get on the horn with the Angels. Tell him we'll pay the rest of Anthony Rendon's deal. Just give us Carlos Estevas and Luis Rendefo for free, please. (laughs) - That knocked him out. - Fix their base, fix relief pitcher. All you gotta do is give some money to the dead body of Anthony Rendon. My partner said that the Cubs are showing you they don't care. That's what they're showing you. Do you agree with that? Are the Cubs showing you that they don't care based on how they've been playing? If you're on hold, you will be on the air, 3-1-2, 3-3-2-E-S-P-N, 3-3-2-3-7-7. Six is our phone number. Cap and J-hood, weekday morning, seven to 10. (upbeat music) ♪ Cap and J-hood, I'm back ♪ ♪ We're back, baby ♪ ♪ We're back ♪ ♪ We're back ♪ ♪ Last thing ♪ ♪ On Chicago's home for sports ♪ ♪ ESPN, Chicago ♪ (upbeat music) ♪ Cap and J-hood, I'm ESPN 1,000 ♪ ♪ And streaming on the ESPN, Chicago app ♪ Greenie comes your way at 10 o'clock followed by Bleck and Abdullah, 12 to three, they will be in for Carmen Iyurko, Peggy and Sylvie from 230 to 630, White Sox baseballs that take on the Dodgers, a 630 free game right here. On the home of the White Sox, ESPN 1,000. Cap said in his recap on YouTube, he says, "The Cubs are showing you they don't care." The Cubs come across like they're stuck. The Cubs and the Bulls are two different entities. There's two different stories. The Bulls on purpose stood still until the Alex Caruso deal. They hadn't made a real deal of actual human bodies cap since August of 2021 until the Caruso deal. They did that on purpose. They said, "We're gonna ride this out "because I don't know loyalty." Just because the owners loyal, doesn't mean that you have to be loyal in your spot as general manager. And that's exactly what they did. They stood still and just let teams get past them. They actually built your Lando Magic to the Bulls. The Cubs, on the other hand, you knew what the problem was. You knew what it was last year. The bullpen held you back from getting to the playoffs last year. This year, again, you kind of move things around, but still you had the same pretty much cast of characters. And if not the same cast of characters, the same result, if not worse than it was last year. Oh, I think they're worse than they were a year ago. Worse. What I don't understand is last year you finished one game short because you didn't add to the bullpen. Other than your guy, Jose Quas, who was DFA a couple of weeks ago. - My guy. - He did not last a year. Now, I'm not telling you Nelson, Velasquez is the second coming of Babe Ruth. I think he's in the AAA now for Kansas City. But the guy you acquired because you thought we're gonna try and help the bullpen, he isn't even in your organization anymore. That's a bad trade. And you did not go out and fix your crappy bullpen in the off season. You did not. It got worse. Worse. You knew Adbert Asalay was not a closer. Nope, we'll try and jam it down your throat anyway. So you have problems with the closer. The setup guys, really? He used to try to win another World Series. I know they're all having a bad year, but they came into the season thing and we could do this again. And they said, Daenerys, yeah, get out. Go ahead, go to Chicago, we're not interested. What's that tell you? - Says a lot, doesn't it? - A lot. You do nothing to fix your bullpen and now you've blown 17 saves. And guess what? Have they done anything other than claim a guy off a DFA? Tyson Miller. And he's pitch fine. Have they done anything? The answer is no. I don't understand how Tom doesn't walk and maybe he has. Walk into Jed's office and go, okay, I don't care what the models show. We got to wait with these guys and we don't do fix the bullpen. Because as I said to you earlier today, I think it was on the air. It might have been in our meeting. I don't know, it's all running together. The Dodgers, would they tolerate this? - They would not. - With the Yankees. - No. - Would the Mets, if they were in the race, tolerate it? - No. - Would the Rangers, sorry, Apple Watch, would the Rangers tolerate it? - They would not. - Would the Phillies tolerate it? Those are teams that are trying to win. - And yes, that was on the air. - Same market. - And they would come into the GM's office and go, okay, fix the bullpen. Let's go. - Well, I've got to trade two prospects. I don't care. Otherwise, just enough. We're not going to be able to get it done this year. We're not there. - You see, folks, this is what West Coast baseball does. This guy is angry this morning. See that, see that, Shane? That's why we had the best time. Central time, 10 o'clock games, oh, good night, Mindy. That's it. - That's it. - But when you're up until 12th, you're one o'clock in the morning. - I've got to buy the woman. - This is what it sounds like after many hours of sleep. I'm mad. And guess what? It's rainy, tracy dropped the ball on the weather today. And then we got another late night game again tonight. - Yes. - Yes. - So you close them with tonight. - Now you understand my feeling when I had to sit there and watch Gordon Beckam in Seattle and watch that broadcast and watch all those losses and that ineptitude. - That's tough. But we stay up because you need to know and need to be informed of what's going on. - Correct. - That is something, man. That's something. Shane, there's opportunities for the Cubs to improve. But boy, you're in the basement right now in the nationally central. Again, with that payroll. I can just, if you're the Sox, it's different. - Yeah, you're the A's, you're the Rockies. If you're one of those team, I can understand that. You're not trying to win. But when you look like this and small market Milwaukee, and this was brought up the other day about small markets like Cleveland and Milwaukee getting the job done afloat. Cleveland surprises me as how good they are in that market. Now again, is it sustainable? But the point is though, is that they'll be a playoff team. And here's a big market Chicago, big shoulders, all these revenue streams, all happy days are here again, Gallagher way, all these things. And this is the product. It's the same product I remember when the Cubs were cheap. When they would not spend money, when they did not have multiple revenue streams, when they didn't have bleachers in left field. This is when they didn't have any money. So that's why that's disappointing. - Can you explain to me, the Cubs not, I know I was out of town, claim Jorge Lopez from the Mets. - Yeah, they did. - Yep. - Okay, how long does it take to get his arm ramp back up? 'Cause he's appeared in 28 games this year for the Mets. With an ERA of 3.76, a positive war of 0.3, he's got 19 Ks. I mean, well, what's going on here? Where is he? Why is he in the minor leagues? - If you're a Lopez away from winning, then you're really in trouble. He's better than Colton Brewer. - Steven Midlothian on cap and J-hood. Hey, Steve, good morning. - Hey, good morning, guys. How are you? - Oh, I think-- - Good man. How are you? - I think you know how we're doing, you've been listening. - Yeah, I know, Jay, I know. Maybe at KPM in the same boat with you, man. I was there Sunday for the Rhino thing. And other than that, there was no energy in the park whatsoever. I mean, absolutely none. They needed the DFA, all of these guys. And don't even, don't even worry about it. A thank you card or nothing. Ship 'em out, you know? It's like, crap would get off the pot already. I'm tired of hearing that, oh, we got the best farm system in ever. It's been going back to 1980s, '90s. Oh, we don't need Jim Comey, 'cause we got D-Stop Joy. Oh my God, stop the front. - You remember that? You remember that? - Yeah, I do. I remember, like, you were yesterday. - Jim, told me. - Jim, told me, came to Wrigley. I was kind of staking it out. - Yeah. - They took him to lunch at heaven on seven on Clark Street, which is gone now, the cage in place. - I remember. - I said, I'll take less money. I want to be a cop. I've always wanted to be a cop. - I ran into him, Captain, when he was with the Fox, the grandstand there, the sports store there. - 35th, yeah. - Grandstand? - Yep. - Yeah, on 35th? - Yeah. - And I had the Cubs' jersey and he goes, yeah, he goes, that would have been nice to be a cop, you know? And I told him. I said, yeah, the grade he stopped, Joy stopped it. And he laughed, you know? And I got a picture with him. And it's just, it's like everybody in the Cubs' organization feels we have the best farm system in the world. But yet, they never get moved. Like you said, he got Casey. You got Brendan Davis, who I've been here about for four years. But I know he's had some injuries, but it's like, come on, guys, I mean, smiley, I thought you'd be DFA last year. Magical wisdom free. David Bodie's been up here for three weeks. I thought we were done with the Bodie experiment. I mean, come on, give these kids a chance or unleash the farm system and get some of these guys that can make a difference. I mean, I know he's old, but Jamie Martinez will look good at the DH instead of wisdom, right? - Yep, yep. - No question about it. - No question. - He's saying, blanket, get off the pot. He's exactly right about it. Like you keep rolling out these young players and counsels all for playing young players. It's got to be one of the other. - By the way, Jorge Lopez has appeared in two games for the Iowa Cubs. He has allowed no runs, two hits, one strikeout, and opponent's batting average of 222. So he appeared in 28 games for the Mets. I mean, what do we have this? Did the arm surgically repaired? What are we doing here? - I understand. - How long has he got to be down there? Please tell me. - By the way, as a sidebar mayor approach. - Yes, brought to you by Anken Law, three, one, two, six million for the great Howard Anken. - That's all right, Paul. - I'm punching steering wheel yesterday. 'Cause I forgot to mention, we should have mentioned, I think as a show, we should have mentioned, not just to the Cubs lost on Sunday night, just the fact that Sandberg's in the house and you play like that. - Yeah, embarrassed. - I mean, to a young player, they don't, I must say they don't care about Ryan Sandberg, but it's like, that was in Technicolor, the film's grainy, they brought the old timer up. That's Ryan Sandberg. - That inspire you to play a better baseball? - Agreed. - I should have said that yesterday, but the point is, Cap, like, this is a big day for the Chicago Cubs. Yes, I know that Sunday night baseball doesn't resonate with the players like it does for us. You're the only game, it's like Sunday night football, it's like Monday night football, you're the only game. You're the highlight, Chicago, right? All, I mean, beautiful sky, beautiful night for baseball, and you play like it's just any other game in June. - And by the way, shout out to Mark Key, because I watched a lengthy feature that they did last night on the guy who made the statue. He's a sculptor, he was at the game on June 23rd, 1984. He said, if you'd have told me 40 years later, I'd be the guy making his statue. I would never have believed it. It was such a great feature. They need to do more stuff like that. It was so well done. So hats off to the people at Mark Key who did that, because it was spectacular to watch. Rhino, how involved he was, instead of having him batting, he wanted to do it, him fielding. It was awesome. So hats off Mark Key. - Would you like to host those in the future or? - No, I'm good. - Okay. - Very happy with you here. - Okay, coming up. - Ethan Roberts, I know he's been on the injured list. - Yes. - He's got 12 appearances. He has not given up a run, I believe. Maybe one run. - Did the Iowa Cubs release Carl Edwards Jr.? - They said. - I saw that last, like why? - They did. - That doesn't make sense. - Well, he might, I'm hearing he might have had a clause in his contract that if he wasn't in the bigs by a particular time he could ask for his release. I don't know if that's why they did. - He was released the same day we talked about him. They were off the air and I looked at my phone like two hours later and I'm like, oh, he's released. - But that's my, you always get that clause in his contract. You need bullpen help. He was pitching well in the minors. - Get somebody off the 40, man. - I guess they just, look, they know they're guys. I would hope better than we do. I haven't watched Carl Edwards Jr. pitch this year. Maybe his stuff is a little short. I don't know. - Is cap qualified to coach an NBA team? We will talk about this coming up next. - Oh boy. - On cap and J-hood. - Brain gas. (beep) - Here's to Daze Headline, Headline, with cap and J-hood. Rough night for the Chicago baseball teams. Yet again, Cubs lost in spectacular fashion last night. They had a four-nothing lead. It was four-two in the ninth. Colton Brewer, whoever he is, came in to close. Who Smiley combined with him to allow three runs. Smiley, a bases loaded. Walk off, walk. That's the Cubs, 17th, blown save of the season. There are now three out of the NL wild card and they're in dead last in their division. Cubs play San Francisco again tonight at 8.45. I'll be on the case for you. White Sox lost to the Dodgers. Three zip at the rate last night. Garrett Crochet rolling along. 5-2-3rd, shut out, ending six strikeouts. ERA down to 3.05. White Sox to Dodgers again tonight. Pregame on ESPN 1000. At 6.30, the Panthers are Stanley Cup champions. And there is a report from Mark Carmen that the Bears have made progress in the discussions with Ireland tonight and the school board for a stadium deal. Jay Moore. [MUSIC PLAYING] The cap and J-hood are back. Appreciate you guys. I listened to you streaming on ESPN 1000 apps. Chicago's home for sports, ESPN Chicago. Don't forget to watch the show and all the shows on YouTube, YouTube.com. Make sure you subscribe to the ESPN Chicago channel. Also on twitch, twitch.tv/eskinwithout in Chicago. So cap, for those that don't know it, I know we have new listeners and viewers every day that drop in. And you know, cap is a Cubs fan from Skokie. I'm a Sox fan from South Shore, Northside, Southside. It's funny how Cap and I grew up in different areas, but yet we have a lot of similarities, especially our sports fandom and our backgrounds with family. So that's what's interesting. But also what's interesting, Cap, is that people don't know is that you were, I would say, a heartbeat or two away from coaching into the NBA, possibly being a head coach, but definitely an assistant. Is that fair? On a staff. Yeah, totally fair, because I turned on two different jobs to go to the end. I scouted in the NBA, but I had two opportunities to get one in a front office and wanted to be an assistant and said, no, I'm going to broadcast. And I'm glad I did. Love, love. What I do, very blessed. You would have four lake houses now if you stayed in the league. You used to be coaching now. Yeah, once you get in the league, like I talked to a buddy of mine yesterday, he's turning 70. He's still in the league. Yeah, still in the league. I said, hey, man, how's it going? He's like, hey, man, 40 years, 40 years in the league, pension, the whole deal loves it. I said, yeah, you're busy writing because, yeah, this is our Super Bowl. It's the draft. Working out players. He sits there and takes his notes and does his work. But yeah, I love what I do. But I think it's a different time now in the league where you're seeing teams willing to give guys chances that have never, ever been in the league before as a coach. Danny Hurley's never had any NBA experience. I know he's a great college coach, and I love Danny. But $70 million was not enough to pry him out of Yukon. So they go get JJ Redick, whose only experience is the same experience that I have this summer. I'm coaching a 10-year-old team. We have our first game tomorrow. And I was at least a college coach. JJ Redick's done nothing other than play. This is what's commonplace now that it wasn't, say, 20, 30 years ago. You know, Shay, you were off. I asked this question on Friday. And the question was, JJ Redick is head coach for the Lakers. Is this Steve Kerr or is this Jeff Saturday? And we were talking about this because there is no middle ground with him. He's so exes and owes. I watched his press conference on ESPN LA on their app yesterday. And he was so exes and owes. It was almost like an analyst, not a head coach. He's going to have to break away from talking about, hey, here's why Anthony Davis can be special. And he broke it down like his podcast with LeBron. It's just, to me, Cap is one or the other. And it's not like this is not commonplace. Steve Kerr had no experience as a head coach. He's going to go to the Hall of Fame as a head coach. Doc Rivers had no experiences as a head coach. Got his championship with the Boston Celtics. Doug Collins. Doug Bob Renley. Arizona Diamondbacks. He wasn't coaching, but from, I believe, from the booth to the dugout, one is World Series Ring. So there's examples of it working. But yesterday, it's something that you brought up that I want to talk about regarding Redick being the head coach for the Lakers. Listen very closely. What misconceptions or concerns about you that you've heard in the last few weeks, are you the most looking forward to dispelling when you're the coach? It's a valid question. And I've certainly heard everything. It's been a really interesting six weeks or so just in terms of being part of the engagement farming industry. It's been really interesting. However, I don't really have a great answer for your question because I really don't give a [BLEEP] like, honestly, I want to coach the Lakers. I want to coach the team. I don't want to dispel anything. I don't. I want to become a great coach in the NBA. And I want to win championships. And I want my players to maximize their careers. That's all I [BLEEP] care about. What do you think of that? I thought that was unprofessional to be dropping F-bombs in that setting, in that setting. In the locker room? Absolutely. A practice? No problem. There was no need for him to drop F-bombs there. And to show you, I was mad when I did that recap last night. And my wife has yelled at me multiple times for dropping the GD word in a recap to the point where-- it took me five takes to get that thing recorded because I was so mad that I got matter and matter because I would drop a GD in there and I'd be like, I got to redo it because I don't-- the F-bombs crossing the line in that setting, GD's crossing the line in that setting. You could drop an S here or there. But I thought he should have taken the high road. I'm not worried about dispelling myths or this or that. I'm just trying to coach this team as best I can and hopefully be a good coach and we win titles. You're a talk show host entertainer fan. He's not on the podcast anymore. If he could casually drop the F word, how can we do that with Doris Burke and Mike Brain? You know why? Because he's on ESPN, ABC, Disney. He wouldn't do it there. Correct. Why do you think that your first time you finally reached the mountaintop? You're at the apex of your life as a head coach in the NBA and then that, I'm no prude, obviously, as you all know. I'm no prude and you're not either. It's just that certain settings, it's like, you know it's live, live. He knows the media business too. And he knows the difference between over the air and podcast. That way he was wrong there. But my point is that he understands the difference. And you know that it was probably carried live at some local outlets in Los Angeles, right? We go live now, the newscast. Here we go, brand new head coach. The Lakers mean everything in Los Angeles. They mean everything. Correct. So I'm sure like the local news is like, all right, JJ, right, here we go. And he does that? Yeah, that way he was wrong. And he should issue an apology. He won't, but he should. Odd, you want to do it at practice, set an F-ing screen, do this, do it. That goes on at every practice. You're going to drop that in a mixed company press conference that's being broadcast. Thought that was low red. Shay. This is going to be such a train wreck. I can't wait. First of all, they don't have that good a team. You just hate to see it. Do you know what this is? Why'd you drop that in there? You know what this is? This is Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving, forcing the Nets to hire Steve Nash. Damn. OK, Steve Kerr, Steve Nash. It's close to the Steve Nash to me. This is LeBron going, this is the guy. Not going to float me. You don't believe when LeBron and the Rob Polinka said, we had no contact with LeBron. He wished us well. Yeah, sure. That's a lie. Yeah, agreed. Sure. I bet we agree. That was one call yesterday. That was one call to find that out. And it should have been common sense, but I want to confirm that's a lie. Rob Polinka's got to ask LeBron if he can go to the bathroom. You're telling me they didn't have any contact with him in a coaching search? Get out of here. It just seems so contrived. It was that way all along, Cap. They were going to fire the coach that was in place. All right, Darben Hamm. They were going to fire him. And so here's JJ Redick. All of a sudden, I don't know where. Let's do a podcast together. LeBron, let's talk Xs and O's. And LeBron was wooed by the knowledge that JJ Redick has about basketball. And all of a sudden, he comes to head coach. How'd that happen? Well, yeah. Come on, stop. The point is, is that it's a 40-year-old LeBron. It is AD, who can be special when he's healthy. And other times, he's in street clothes. Correct. You have Hachamora. You have Austin Reeves. You got some pieces there. But again, are you better than a young Minnesota Oklahoma city team? You're not. You're better than your kitchen Denver. You're not. Just aren't. And there's a ceiling to their success cap. And that's just the bottom line. What is JJ Redick? Here's the thing. Yes, he can be successful. But what happens on that six or seven game road trip when you get your ass kicked and they're starting to look at you as the problem? I can't believe that lineup he put it. Right. Right now, it's all hunky-dory. Right now. He's very analytical. But how are you person to person? Yep. How are you? I agree. And it's LeBron James is running it. JJ Redick is the head coach in name. He was your podcast partner. And now you're his boss? Oh, no, no. That doesn't work with LeBron. Not going to work. Just because you're friendly, the podcast doesn't mean that you can work together. But all of it is about personnel to cap. The guy's 40. And he's still great. But then what about the rest of it? And it's JJ Redick. No experience is going to be the head coach. As we gave the examples of it working, but there are some times out of their gore. Like, this could be Jeff's Saturday. Just putting the headset on. And just-- That was a train wreck. Yeah. The Jeff's Saturday stuff. Train wreck. 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Missed opportunity on the broadcast, hoodie. We needed a South Florida stand up. So get all in. So get all in. And that's all, folks. The Captain J. Hood cut of the day. Chicago cut steakhouse. Little rainy today. The patio will be a little damp. But I would sit inside. And today should be a lighter day. I'd go with the lobster salad with the champagne vinaigrette, spec-tacular. Shae, this can't fall to the Friday folder because it would be way too late. We have to talk about, again, just remnant from the weekend, these climate activist storming the 18th green. As the travelers. As the travelers. Right. Yes, Eric, weren't you aware? [LAUGHTER] Eric is Strausske joining us in studio. I haven't heard about this story. Eric, they were launching smoke bombs onto the green. The green was covered in red and green paint. Shout out to police officers that tackled those guys like TJ Edwards and who else? Blue Edwards. He was out there. Yeah. TJ Looker was there. For me and Edmunds, it looked like a bear alignment. Jack Samborn, Al came flying up. They blew these protesters up. Good. Cap, any time you do that, I'm for it. I understand causes. But it is a blight on your cause when you do that. It's a negative on your cause when you do that. That is correct. Just is. That is correct. So people will be watching. They're like, what's the delay? Oh, these guys. OK, well, you know what? That doesn't do anything for your cause. There's other ways to do that besides interrupting a golf tournament to travelers. It is unbelievable. The calamity for no reason. Shade, this all other things too. There's someone to complain about having their dog on the blue line. Is the Shane Reardon, is that what it says here? Yeah, so on on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. PSA, don't take your dog on the blue line. It's my opinion. Don't take your dog on the train. Is that not allowed? Because I don't think so. If you have a big enough dog, I have a 70 pound Bernadoodle. And every day on my way home from here, if I get on the right bus, there's a guy sitting in the front seat. He's got his dog laying across on the floor. Yeah, so. I would never do that with my dog. There's no way the dog enjoys it. If somebody's got an allergy, god forbid, just don't do it. Stupid. I disagree. I have no problem with what Shane did. He got lunatics on that train. I got no problem with what-- I would take my dog on the train. He's on a leash, and he's well behaved. His dog, Willie. Super well behaved. A beautiful looking dog. Yes. Just saying people do have a dog for certain reasons. Is there a care dog, or if they're blind? They've got to have a dog on there. Yeah, I had no problem with what Shane did. I guess a lady on the train was complaining. We thank you for listening and calling in and being part of the program here on Captain Jaylet. Thank you for listening and watching. Thank you so much. Jay Moore and Shay, let's do it tomorrow at 7. So long, everybody. 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