Boom or Bust NRL Fantasy Podcast

Season 2024 Questions Pod Round 21

Our 2024 season continues with a combined podcast for the Round 21 TLT review and answering all of your questions. Fantasy Amateur Mark and Fantasy Amateur Rob run through a massive TLT & Q&A in what is a massive pod heading into the home stretch. Take a look and let us know what you think! Go here - https://linktr.ee/boomorbustnrl - to get a link to listen on your favourite platform. Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon podcasts or go direct to https://boomorbust.podbean.com to listen on the web.

Duration:: 1h 33m
Broadcast on:: 24 Jul 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

Our 2024 season continues with a combined podcast for the Round 21 TLT review and answering all of your questions.

Fantasy Amateur Mark and Fantasy Amateur Rob run through a massive TLT & Q&A in what is a massive pod heading into the home stretch. Take a look and let us know what you think! Go here - https://linktr.ee/boomorbustnrl - to get a link to listen on your favourite platform. Available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon podcasts or go direct to https://boomorbust.podbean.com to listen on the web.

Welcome to the Fantasy Amateurs and Boomabust Animal Fantasy Podcasts collaboration for 2024. We've joined forces to bring you the best fantasy content with a rotation of fantasy experts and fantasy nuggets reviewing the week and answering your NRL fantasy questions. Hello and welcome to another episode of the NRL Fantasy Amateurs podcast and it is third time lucky. We had Rob Ryan and Austin record the Sunday Lost Pod thanks to crowdsource or Counter-Strike or whatever it's called CrowdStrike. It's gone. Crowdsurf. No good and then last night Ryan and I sat down and recorded a nice snappy one hour team list podcast probably the greatest podcast ever recorded but you know that's lost to the faulty recording software or probably more the faulty operator using the new recording software but Rob it's just you and me tonight mate so we're gonna do a hybrid Sunday Tuesday questions pod all in one just you and me I think it's our first time podcasting with just the two of us are you excited? I'm so excited yeah I forgot that my Sunday night got cooked as well so it's lots to lots to recap from the weekend I suppose. Yeah the Lost Podcasts is actually definitely more chance of us at some point recovering the Sunday pod than there is recording recovering the Tuesday pod so that's true yeah basically for those of you that are hanging out we appreciate everybody caring sending welfare checks on the amateurs I was basically the software that we used to record the podcast it was working on Sunday night and then Monday morning we think they're trying to fix issues but in the meantime their platforms have been down for three days it hasn't actually stopped them from sending me a bill so I got a nice I got a receipt for the 180 dollars for the year for the recording subscription and I just sent back you have to be taking the piss aren't ya thanks for nothing mate thanks for nothing you dogs so yeah and then yeah we I tried to use recording software last night and yeah no bueno because I accidentally refreshed the browser and deleted the conversation so Rob it's just up to you and I to to do really well tonight only correct answers but not only just correct information but the best information I think is is the way to go and normally I don't get to actually see your face while you're recording it's making me a little bit disconcerted because yeah maybe we will turn the cameras off yeah you're doing like unusual facial expressions to make me think you disagree with what I'm saying it's it's given me you're gaslighting me with you with your eyes now wait for the wait for the questions mate it'll be all right so mate we we're not going to do a traditional Sunday and Tuesday pod what we're going to do is basically try to touch on the the key issues for the week which I suspect probably framed by our questions and it's going to be sort of pretty I guess similar in a lot of ways to the format that we ran last week in terms of their being sort of a clear you know clear tears of players that we're trying to choose between and and sort of similar decisions that we need to make now one player who's been at the forefront of everybody's minds probably following you know me maybe drawing their attention to his poor scoring is Samuel Lefano he plays in the first game at 6 p.m. on Friday for the Tigers look obviously John Bateman released back to England for the rest of the season but Samuel Lefano you actually you you've deleted Facebook so you might be the only person that doesn't know about my post so basically the gist of it for those that aren't in the Facebook group and Rob who doesn't get to see it is Samuel Lefano he's currently owned by 77 percent of the teams on the top 1,000 and 68 percent of the teams on the top 5,000 and he's made everybody about 100k but he's only gone over 50 on three occasions where he's played significant minutes this year and he actually has sort of 30 to 49 points is kind of his range which really doesn't make him a final team keeper he's obviously been great he's got the jewel if you can afford to hold him as a 18th 19th man he's probably ideal but there's a couple of really really good options this week who look like there could be keepers and they're sort of in the right price bracket to make a move from Feynu so those three sort of key options there is the two halves being Dylan Brown at 610k with Mitch Moses getting ruled out for the rest of the year his average spikes to close to 58 points and we've also got Braden Trindall who's available at 507k he averages about 50 in games where he's the dominant half-back no-nickel Heinz and then we've also got Josh Curran who played a monster 70 odd minutes on the weekend scored a try 57 points which is probably on the low side of what his managers expect but obviously with trades that are premium for everybody but you Rob we're going to need to get you to maybe put your empathy hat on for for those of you that you what do you got like 11 trades left or something like that oh yeah for the head-to-head team I just didn't do any trades over the buy-arounds except for getting Jaden Campbell so that one's all set apart from losing John Bateman and both teams oh yeah that's a bit of a dog job so yeah yeah yeah what can we do what can we do out of those three options what's what's your sort of if you were going to move on from Feynu what which way was your head with that I think it depends what position you need I think lots of people are going to be trying to get one of Cleary or Fogarty this week but if you can't afford both I like the Dylan Brown option um as an option of you know instead of getting the other um and then the other one was who was the other one so there's Curran and Trendel so Trendel Trendel Trendel yeah I guess Trendel is just the that um I'm sure Austin's made his comments known about um getting Trendel versus Brown I think it's probably because I've had Brown most of the year and then I traded him out because he just got like a big run of just non-keeper scores even with even with um like before Moses came back oh sorry after Moses came back he still just hasn't like been amazing this year um but that said he's got some really good scores and I think he's fine for like his price so I think and I agree with Curran I thought he was in for an absolute monster score when he scored that try but again you'd be happy if you jumped on um last week I'd say with you know no more bias um he's got the jewel is that right um and yeah he yeah it's still really cheap so I don't think he can go too far wrong with any of them I think um that Brown is more likely to be a final team keeper than the other two um but I think it just depends what your budget looks like yeah definitely and I mean so Brown and uh Curran are pretty much exactly the same price I think there's 1,000 between that price so they're more or less the same price and that it's a full hundred K down to Trendel so if you're operating on a budget and let's say you got like Feynu and Dylan Edwards for argument's sake or uh something like that or weeks or Kela uh KPS Paul or something like that isn't it yeah that's probably more likely but I'm talking about trying to get a cleary oh yeah go check out if you needed to sort of put some money in the bank or let's say it is you know let's say it's uh you know Moses or um there's kind of most people have got there's not a huge amount of those like we moved on from a lot of those those sort of high price red dots last week so um yeah I definitely I like Trendel if you're shopping on a budget uh but um as Ryan said on one of the lost pods is basically Brown's the sort of the swing for the fences option in terms of if you're looking for a guy like this Brown could absolutely outpace a guy like Cherry Evans or one of these sorts of guys at for 120k cheaper at the moment you know like I'm looking at Feynu to Brown to 70k it might be that might be 15 points a week upgrade for 70k at this point plus an extra game with Feynu that buy in round 26 because sex one one thing to keep in mind and this is one thing we sort of spoke about last night on the on one of the lost pods is the um the round 25 26 27 buys in particular are going to be really hard to deal with from an overall perspective because players start getting injured people will start running out of trades you know you don't want to be trade like buying and Feynu a Blake for example and then having to trade him out in the last week or having that 700k 800k red dot at that point it's definitely better trying to attack players from one of the 12 teams or 11 teams that don't have any more buys and trying to avoid those couple of teams that do and that's where you know looking at you know Brown's a good one, Corin's a good one and Trindall none of those teams have have buys so all three of them are options obviously if you need a forward Corin's are easy option there I'm looking at something like Pennesini, Iro and Feynu to Corin, Cleary and McLean this week in my head to head uh just because I do need that fourth middle but in overall I've got Ryan Madison there along with McLean's Cotta Tarpani and only one of those players has a buy rest of season in Ruben Cotta and like I think it's around 25 so I'm sort of less concerned about it there uh so you know it is really comes back back to your key your team composition and and all of that sort of stuff although you know one injury to McLean's Madison or Tarpani and all of a sudden I need a middle in round 25 for Ruben so it is it is kind of a hard one there um because you know we were hoping that like someone like a John Bateman or someone like that was going to pick up a duel or Cameron Murray who didn't pick up the edge duel because he's suspended uh even um even guy Murray getting suspended for the year just before he would have got the the mid duel yeah just sort of highly frustrating it's been cursed I think I think there's been a bit of a curse on the impending duels and the mid position as well yeah in particular so we've got to be really really careful with that so yeah there's a few options there and we'll probably circle back to that when we get to the questions I'm sure uh now obviously the other aspect here is we've got a couple of gun middles with Isaiah Yeo, Payne Haas we don't need to just we don't need to tell you that they're good uh Connor Watson uh got shifted out to the centers and has dropped a bunch of cash and also patty karrigan who uh has a buy both of those players do have buys though coming up patty karrigan he dropped a bunch of cash he's now got an 81 break even he averages like 58 or something like that in in games where he plays at least 65 minutes and you have to imagine with the Broncos uh needing to pretty much win every game to meet the finals he's going to be playing those big minutes every single week Ryan did flag the peer career injury has possibly been a problem for karrigan uh on the lost pod last night uh so you know shout out to him for that and I mean the thing as well is you know it's only a 24k jump to go from Isaiah Connor Watson to Yeo although Watson's picked up that hooker duel now um if you were selecting for an elite middle this week let's say you you have the option there we touched on adenfoneur Blake just before who is probably the bottom of that TR with Murray suspended and my preferred option is if you can wait a week and get Murray that's my preferred way to go with all this by the way but if you need somebody this week we've got adnet 700k neat you got karrigan at 711 with that high break even but still a value and then you got your Watson Haas yo uh do you have a preference on which way you would go with those particular guys uh given every single one of them's got to buy aside from yo who we imagine probably gets rested in 27 yeah quite possibly i think it's nice that yo got his buy out of the way last week though um especially for head to head i think yo is a really good option um if i didn't have pain house i think i'd be getting him um but you can't really go too wrong the the the thing is with yo um is that he hasn't got to buy but as you say like our penta's gonna lock up the minor premier league minor premier this year probably i mean they only need to make the top two they don't need to make the three yeah that's true that's true it seems like the sharks are a bit you know squishy and and the roost is losing to the storm probably put them out of the hunt for the top two as well yeah yeah yeah i think um yeah i think Haas is my favorite i agree with you um on Watson for next week i think i'm sure the lost pod might have ryan would have teed off about him getting um jul and how he didn't deserve it at all um but ryan did uh promise me ask me to to promise to make sure that one of us teed off on the uh the jul position updates yeah yeah yeah oh every time i just think about another person that should or shouldn't have got it um it makes me a little bit more angry but i almost want to just wait for ryan for next week to just absolutely tee off because ryan is a soft soul he doesn't get angry very often but when he does it's that's a real treat so um yeah i'd be quite keen to hear that next week um but yeah he's gonna be like he's probably gonna be comfortably the best hooker on the run home it's just that buy um and we've already got quite a lot of roosters running around our teams already um but it just is a bit annoying because i got red mani last week thinking that um kind of Watson wouldn't get the the jul much like the boy Austin um and then a red mani rewarded me with a lovely 43 so i'm sure i could have got that from uppy carousel so um yeah it's just the nature of fantasy this year i think um and answer to your question yeah i think i think i'd get yo if i already have house or i'd get house if i don't have him um i think i'd stare clear of a warrior i think they're slightly too expensive now so i've also just realized that i completely omitted uh key on column at tongue existence as well yeah yeah so he's it he's is he the same price as yo now roughly slightly more slightly more and i've also erroneously uh omitted midge by net as well number one just number one player in the game at the moment i just can't believe it yeah i just can't believe it um he has been phenomenally good but i just you you can't do it at 860 no no you can't it's the same it's the same as like i've got my blinkers on for like people that don't own ribbon coder like really coder i just noticed he's at 750k he's been really really good the cowboys own a similar position to the bronco is slightly better in the fact that they're actually gonna make the eight and the broncos are gonna miss the eight but um that's it it's it's close just that by the way like no they all have bias i think so if you're buying someone that has a buyer you want to make sure that they're like a really elite scorer um and i don't know if coder is like if you've got him it's fantastic like it's great and if you can cover that round 25 fire up but i think i don't know if i'll be buying coder now it's not a terrible option but i think i'd rather get yo yeah now i think in an ideal scenario uh for overall the best case would be that you would buy players who have already had enough time off from teams that are competing for top two top four top top eight or at least finals uh like you know like looking at the latter west tigers they have that round 26 buy uh but also they suck they're obviously blooding people for next year i would be actively going out of my way to avoid having people that play for the tigers that aren't named lock and galvan um parameter eels no buys but they're gonna be running experiments between now and the rest of the year to see what works i have madison there that is concerning dylan brown is very safe in his jersey though so he's the exception to that rule but outside of him i wouldn't be shopping for anybody in that team the titans are an interesting one because they're technically only three wins out of the eight i don't think they can make it but i think their team's pretty settled so jane kambal dave for feeder the two guns there that's probably all you're shopping for the wires at round 27 buy and the unlikely you know event of them making finals probably makes them a clear avoid if you can um and then we've got this little bunch of like nights rabbits broncos the nights on the buy this week and then they've got a couple of really interesting guys moving forward uh at rabbit o's no more buys kevin marries back next week so marion pongor the two guys that i'd really like from those two teams then broncos raiders dragons cowboys dolphins bulldogs manly it's kind of that tier of guys where like if that if that team is in that list and doesn't have a buy they're kind of the ideal players that you want to target but most of those players are pretty most those teams are pretty centralized with the guys you want you know broncos this harsh carrigan reese walsh uh the raiders is basically foggy and tarpany maybe if you're shopping on a budget um i prefer him to add in just in the fact that he doesn't have a budget but i've had a similar price uh it doesn't have a a buy yeah you know what i mean um and then dragons are you know pretty consolidated to jake up little yeah and um there's a couple of interesting ones in terms of cells like you know you jack de bellen we're moving on from him ethan strange moving on from him you know these types of guys is is uh there was a bit of discussion last last uh last night on the lost part about um players that might be in your team that uh you rather they weren't there but they're probably aren't worth spending a trade to upgrade hmm is that your type yes paul type kai paul is it was absolutely one of those players yeah just guys that are in your team that you're like oh look i wish that you were somebody better but you're scoring just well enough that i'm not going to trade you out i don't think faneu actually fits in that category which is why i sort of because 42s are big difference to 48 like kai paul is a 48 and no tries at all this year yet rez like you know fane has got a couple of tries there but he really needs to try to get him past like 38 so yeah no i agree i think um if uh in an ideal world i would have sold kai paul but i'm gonna have to sell jason vateman now jason vateman you wish j j i'll jason he's reliable i wish i had jason i wish i had the boy john vateman um uh i he's on the never again that's right like if he ever comes back to the nrl well he's saying he's gonna be back next year uh he just he just keeps getting homesick he keeps forgetting it's far away from england and it's so annoying um he just wants to come back for the ashes next year i reckon yeah maybe maybe is that this year or next year i don't know just yeah you know what i watch today i don't know if you have this you probably don't have this experience you know it's like cricketing or like sports moments that you just you get up for yeah like what's your what's your what's the New Zealand equivalent of like that like if i said to you what is the most iconic moment in New Zealand sports history like what is the first things that comes to your mind uh see we haven't really won anything but like we've we've got we've had um i and i i'm glad that you said that because i really wanted to say that but it's like one of the only things like you know it's almost semi-finals a like number one but beating New Zealand's pretty close yeah yeah no i think my favorite was the um the cricket World Cup semi-final against South Africa we're growing earlier at that big six at Eden Park um to take us into a final which i refused to admit that we played and we just got smashed by Australia at the mcg um but that was pretty good that was pretty close for me but um as yours the o5 ashes is that what you're gonna say no no i was gonna say peter sit peter sit all taking a hat trick on his shirt oh that's a great one yeah that's fantastic yeah i saw that come up on tiktok today and i sat there i'll never not watch that if it comes on tiktok yeah except uh i think it's Mark Nicholas he's like not yeah he doesn't have it yet we've got to wait for the video referee and like if there was ever an argument for just abolishing the video referee that bit of commentary was it because it was plumb like it hit him on the foot in the middle of middle stump like it was never not gonna be out but he ruined it with the commentary yeah this is a bit of the romance they like if you really celebrate and then they kind of go upstairs it's kind of like with um with soccer they do that now as well it's all was the offside of the scenes yeah it ruins the magic yeah well i know warney because warney was going off about it and mark taylor with the other two and they were they were they were on the train to celebration town and it was like didn't one of them call it as well was it warney yeah warney had a happy nake of calling there like big things before they happened yeah i'll rest in peace sweet man yeah that's i but i reckon that's one of the top the top moments i love that today but i don't know how that's related to what we're talking about now i'm going to have to circle back and and find myself on track well isn't this a questions pod mark no it's not a questions but it's okay correct fantastic talking smack um yeah so john bateman he's gone oh yeah jb yep yep yep see you yeah so yeah so what you want to consolidate your plays it and cat you know cash outs and keepers is kind of the big thing and and you know if you if there's somebody who sort of like 47 48 average like kai pis pause a perfect one you're holding on to him kio weeks is another one uh i think there's a you know there's a strong argument to hold kio weeks at the moment i definitely would be holding him and selling fayno given the choice positionally ideally weeks is like a perfect uh lupa slash yeah best of allabilities your availability type of guy you know he's uh yeah i think that's a major issue with fayno as well is he's not even a great guy to loop like for the start of your loop because no what if he gets like dirty four thirty six or something like you're choosing between him and alexa like our with or something like that it's like you know you'd rather you'd rather have someone that could go boom at the start of your loop um but you can yeah so i agree with you especially because they're playing first it's uh just really annoying i think yeah there's no real spot for him in a 17 in a in a good 17 yeah i i actually quite like the idea of turning him into trindle putting the 37 k in your bank and getting like 10 points a week more or there abouts i think yes trindle is going to be pretty solid high 40s um low 50s you i mean like at a minimum yeah somewhere in that range yeah and and but and there's no way you could say that about fayno so no yeah i think um yeah he's great he's he's done his job yeah there's a couple other guys here who we need to talk about potentially moving on just percentage wise uh like high ownership guys that we need to look at um so ethan strange is still in 30 percent of teams he's one with the number of centers that we got at the moment the emergency how worth we got case in mcclean who comes up is probably the number one cash add option this week we got euro we got garrick we got whiten there's probably not a place for teams to be hanging on to ethan strange anymore uh because he's kind of particularly with foggy back uh really gonna struggle to put those points up yeah 100 i i think a lot of people would have got rid of him on the raiders by um i think i did i think i still had him at that point um but now he served his purpose he did a really good job this year but um now we've got yeah there's plenty of sinners plenty of halves i think yeah cash out or got him up that's that that's the goal this week yep so it plays to move on from zavia willison ventra boivich maverick guys and 20 percent of teams jake of gaggai yeah obviously with someone like maverick guy if he's in your team he's just sitting in your emergencies now because he's doesn't he's not worth anything you know like earlier in the year you might have spent a trade to try to generate some cash there but you're sort of at the point where you need to move on from him even sam hues at 383k if you're still hanging on to at this point you're probably just lobbing him in your emergencies because he's uh he's uh you know he's kind of just he's there for a break gas in case of emergency option now one that's going to put a lot of uh particularly the highly rated teams in in a lot of stress is tiring wish art this week though months to name to potentially return he's in the extended bench we should be getting news around that oh it's only wednesday night nevermind um no footage tomorrow matt no footage tomorrow oh mate we got stuck into the olympics last night too i don't know if i can do that again yeah okay just um suffice to say this is not a olympics podcast no so so my problem with the olympics right aside from it just taking up all the tv time with stuff that i'm not interested in is you know when you're watching the olympics on tv and i don't want to take credit for this idea because it's not my idea i just saw it you know when you're watching the olympics on tv and they're all doing the event and they're all like pretty close to each other because they're all elite athletes right but you mean like in terms of talent or like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like satsudin just beat the usa buttskule team or whatever i think it was i think it was close yeah or close or it was it was definitely close yeah i feel like we need to add a control group yeah i'm with you so i just add like it and make it like jury duty where you just get like uh they don't know they just mail you just mail it out like you know oh no jury duty isn't like you just get picked like yeah like you just get a thing in the mail like oh yep you know mark 34 from kabucha you've been selected to compete in the pole vault as the control group and you just like you do it just to see like just exactly how good the the professional athletes are i wonder you they should give you like um like a year to to to like to train to train i reckon i think i think i think i can team around you no i feel like that ruins it no i just i don't know like you'd step that's the point of a control is we'd still be pretty bad like no i've been doing it their whole lives now i think the point of a control is there's like there's no training you just like you and you just dread like the one person in the world that gets the mailer like you're competing in the marathon yeah like that would be the worst one oh or the 10k oceans for something yeah i do not want to do it like duck floaties on or something like that just just kill me yeah yeah so there'd be some good ones though imagine like a team of of like footballers that are just like bang average blokes or like like a team sport would be so funny golf or something even like the basketball you just get like yeah yeah great like division seven south west metro pirates you know men's basketball team god like gets entered in or whatever and they got like seven point guards they're all wearing like headbands and like three sweatbands on each arm i think my main issue with it is with sports like basketball golf where it's not really the pinnacle and like i get it for for athletics for tracking it like that's that's massive that's their that's their state of origin right but it's it's um it's there yeah it's the basketball the golf the all sorts of ones like tennis it's not really like they're doing it just to try and get a medal just for a bit more clout but it really should be the pinnacle for basketball though it actually it i suppose it but you want me up about the NBA or something it's called don't want me up about the NBA championships calling them the world champions oh i know the world series as well the world series and baseball yeah the world inside america oh mate yeah yeah you don't need a passport that mate it's the only place you ever need to live so jesus all right now um yeah so obviously wish art potentially going to play this week he's got a lot of his managers all the way up to the top i have to imagine he's going to get moved to the bench if it happens with fun a lot far longer dropping out at which point he just becomes an urgent sell uh so just keep an eye on that i think if it's if you can wait one more week get that a sweet sweet attacking stats against paramata you'll hold off that week but lucky for us they they play pretty early so you're going to get to make that decision and then assuming that he is let's say Munster is named and he gets ruled out that's a really easy trigger pull to to even to dylan brown he plays in the same game as well yeah or just catch him out like all the way in grab someone else um it just depends what position you need him in he's just been such a good win for a decade but yeah so yeah yeah annoying cool all right what do you reckon we'll just jump into some questions and sort of see what sort of trends come up yeah for sure yeah all um i should have probably done this a bit earlier but i'll go and actually just get the post-op paying shall i i've got the instagram one if you want all right yeah yeah yeah give me that yep um cool so this is from harry gold farnworth and weeks to cleary and someone under 450k uh my first instinct is i'm not clear on why we're selling farnworth like yeah we bought him the men the men red dog shawny said don't sell farnworth i'm working red dog shawny he's that he's averaging 49 i don't know why how like on what planet with the decisions being made to sell farnworth he's got 64 and a 47 and the 47 was against the panthers it's only it could only be the tough run home for the dolphins but i just think but he's saying like mane and hammer their main points of attack like come on now no don't do that if you if you need to move weeks on and you don't trust him and you add him in on trading and we've given you a couple of options already in a dillon brown or a uh a trindle yeah well i mean if you're if you're gonna get cleary it's someone under 450 so it's maybe just a mcclean or something right is there anyone like in the would you still buy a starling or do you think it's too late no it's too late for starling i would be i think i'd be and we actually spoke about this ryan was talking about this last night he owned his own starling and he sort of said you know basically uh if it was 320 you'd be all over starling but at four three seven even last week would have been fine but yeah too late so this but you know the thing is like if you got farnworth and you're selling him and weeks to get uh a 450k and cleary you'd probably be looking at like fenu and weeks to mcclean and cleary something like that or ero and weeks to mcclean and cleary something like that would be a much better than trying to get out get rid of our farnworth yep agree um Jacob star weeks fenu and utua kamanu to cleary yo and mcclean yep that's really nice cool um this is from calum green thinking of doing weeks in bateman to cleary and someone under 542k is the best option is the best cash out mcclean yes but just get trendal right yeah that's pretty good and trendal and trend in a cleary for who weeks and weeks in vateman yeah that seems like a fill-up yeah cool cool cool oh look slowly trading out plath this week not sure if you've discussed that or not i i'm very comfortable moving him on yeah he's just we talked about this a little bit in the in the group chat it's the he's a tackle bot um and he needs the meters a from being in the in the middle rather than a hooker to get his good scores but he wasn't even really a gun anyway he just was like a fringe like gun that was just one he can outscores as it was and he just had good um buy cover a j like yeah yeah classic overall he's a he's a feigning he's in the bracket with fenu for me yeah yeah and now he's even worse because he did his job and now he's not doing his job yeah cool uh i can go to yo and be done with it or get paren and then ponger last and next week which gives me better positional cover uh i i quite like the idea of trying to bring ponger in to be honest yeah me too he's going to be like quite a nice part isn't he next week hmm yes i do i think i would work that i think i would do that yeah i'm i'm kind of i'm trying to i'm trying to assess the feasibility of like if i go fenu to um if i go fenu to trendle this week instead of fenu to brown i could spend next week and do like weeks to ponger or something like that is that's really nice yeah something like that i think i i don't know if i could quite squeeze it otherwise like just cash wise um but like something like that i i really like so i'm on board with it yep yep me too um luke joseph thoughts on hands to case him a clean yes oh depends if you need this is actually one thing we discussed last night just keep in mind of how much hookers you've actually got uh because like my head dead team or the head dead team definitely definitely yeah um gonna make the eight only has only has one hooker yeah yeah uh so this guy's got a board mission on uh weeks to uh weeks to till and brown this week because that'll leave with one trade and one hooker so i think if you move it on hands you really want to have two hookers so in an ideal scenario you would have read or like Robson or Grant with Watson yeah uh and and then you don't have to worry about it yeah sorry this guy's got grant and styling so oh yeah maybe i think i'm fine with it yep cool uh hair this dylan on dress um has Watson Robson it's styling with Watson having DPP would you trade Watson to it i'm sorry Robson to another gun no yeah it seems sideways sorry mate uh Isaac Chateau if holding the trail would you flip now or hold out uh i i'm really waiting to see so i'm a lateral holder i'm waiting to hear back from the uh the reports about the trail's foot uh he saw uh he had a scan on i think it was monday he's due to see a specialist anytime now and then i'm sure we'll get some information i'm really hoping he's going to be back around 23 because that's what it says on anarol.com and then we'll get 23 24 25 26 out of the trail that's that's sort of the plan uh that would be really handy because that's when to desco goes on his buy and and egg is crutting uh if i if we any news that he's gonna be out longer than that he's uh a cell but i think if you've held him through the two weeks already you're kind of at the point where you've done half the hard work don't sort of spoil it now yeah i agree it'd be nice to have the knowledge of him having that scan um to know what to do with him because yeah in an ideal world he'd be back 23 that'd be awesome um but we just don't know yeah um this is from Nick McMahon uh weeks in stufano to stalling and clearly yes i think we talked about stalling already yeah yeah i mean uh i i think if you can we're stalling price wise now he's like 430 yeah i'm i'd probably prefer trindle if you can get there but i realize that's a bit of a jump um here's a question for you would you go stalling and clearly or would you go like trindle and um yo oh that's really tough i think i i think i would do trindle and yep nah the thing is like i don't mind i don't mind with him we can see uh Rob's face the disdain yeah he's got like this stress look on his face like someone just asked him you know which one of his feet he wants to have amputated yeah i thought about doing stalling i've got stalling and um here to here team but not in overall i think i think it is too late for stalling um but that's it like he could still get fifties um or like high 40s it's just a sticky factor right and we just never really know what's going to happen um whereas trindles probably a bit safer in his role um so i think it just depends what you need i really like cleary this week if you obviously obviously we like cleary this week he's the best captain um so yeah i've got no issues with catching one out it's just whether you need another scorer or not i suppose yeah if you're like i think in a perfect scenario you might clash all the cash all the way out to mcclean and then that's right have that 200k for something else but if you need somebody to put in your scoring 17 on a weekly basis i think stalling is the only one and that price point with a chance of averaging about 50 yeah agree yeah and he's like he still probably he still is underpriced if he's gonna be playing that role um but i quite i i do quite like the trindle and yo or trindle Watson yeah you know if you have another captain this week then it's probably fine um yeah where are we up to uh locky mccaren uh bigger sell out of plath week since stafano oh man um stafano it's been so bad um i think we keep for the positional cover right like jul yeah with the extra hooker on the bench but with ipat returning and playing in the middle i think stafano might be the biggest seller in those three yeah i'm happy with that um luke adam's four trades left left to cleary one trade or brown to cleary brown bit of a Nathan Nathan yeah it'll be a Nathan Brown um weeks to cash out winger need a winful back in round 23 now the first like the one trade yeah i think that's right i think just just no good comes of buying someone for in a position that you need in the future because they might be out again by around 23 yeah it's it's hard i think it is good to have death but that said like we're just losing depth who we think is going to be adding around 23 uh is it is that the roosters buy yeah might be um to desk go you might have to desk yeah but he needs a wing full back in that case you'd want to have weeks instead of a cash out wing full back like yeah exactly cashing down the savage or something yeah yeah now i definitely just hold weeks cool cool cool um d underscore hunty 91 that's a long question it's been a long time since i've done these questions the people like a long question um i have yo tapanese and dylan walker as well as cambal teddy and ponger do i go pleth to has yes or yeah i think yes or pleth to afb and turbo what yeah just to just get just get just get just get past yeah yeah yeah damn two has he said thanks for all the help this year first year so yeah thanks man you can never go wrong buying pain hearts i think that's the answer i think that's right i think yeah if you can do it in one trade it's always a better option right like yeah stave a trace get a sacrifice something do i get them too yep wheels up yeah uh week oh i've had this already um is jane it's james for chaera so keep it mike oh at this point uh no he's not but at this point you have to ask yourself like is it worth a trade to get rid of him would you trade him up to yo or what's and i think i'd love to that's his question i do i think i think yes get yo yeah he said he's got has caught a tapanese colo matangi so he's stacked well then that case you get maybe get clearly no well in that case you would get um he's got yo what's and which means he's obviously operating in a budget um you'd get what's and so you could plug him into your hooker i think yeah yeah yeah yeah yep yep cool um cashing downstream to mcclean that's fine i'm a bit stuck on my second trade would you do left to watson weeks to teddy or wash kpp to angus uh i think the first one yeah me too yep yep yep uh is the tuesday pod coming because there's no sunday pod either yeah no thanks mate aforementioned comments see above thanks came in um bigger sell out of burbo final weeks enhance burbo right burbo final weeks and yeah burbo i think yeah cool um hey lads playing head-to-head firmly in the top eight got on your mate must be nice congratulations yeah i was gonna say i wish i was family in the top eight uh i've been hanging on by a thread um what don't play the hurt locker if you want to be firmly in the top eight ever unless you're ryan yeah um ryan just went up with like a six point head start on the leak i don't know how it happens it's like you can see the future ryan it's yeah i don't know how he does it um six trades in hand i'm thinking these three options hues and weeks to clary and dylan walker i don't love that no just yeah no or wix and kpp to clary and mcclean yes do that yeah that's better keep the hues yes do you think it's sam hues or no i think that's gerome hues yeah keep hues i certainly keep hues against the ills i think you can keep both hues even if it is sam hues just plug him in your emergencies i'm not yeah that's you know yeah it's not worth it now you missed your point to sell him but absolutely yeah we discussed this last night even with monster returning hues probably falls into the players that you wish for Nathan clary but you know like you still like he's still averaging 58 like yeah absolutely i think um yeah look he's been really good like it's just the points that he's been getting without monster has just been excellent um so yeah i think definitely keep him against the ills and then you can reassess it next week if you for whatever reason decided you might want to trade him um that's all that's instagram all right well i'll stop making myself a glen andy sanberg guy tonight big andy sanberg guy yeah if you haven't watched book or no no go and do that uh so jolslade just says weeks with a question mark with no additional uh information which i assume means do we sell or trade yeah yeah i think we're in the hold i'm in the hold basket i think i will sell him oh like you're of course you're selling you got 17 trades left no i mean just even for i just don't know if i have another option of someone to trade out like i i suppose you've you've made me think about finew now um but yeah i think i think i'll use him and like a finew or a baitman to get like a clary in a in a cash out so yeah who would you sell baitman or weeks ah time don't i it's it that's funny because because baitman's left for the year you can't just leave imagine being a tigers fan a like oh you'd be so angry oh i know yeah i couldn't imagine being a tiger fan i'd give up i would actually start following the olympics or start following new zealand international teams before i became a tiger's fan yeah but you you already used to losing so you may as well yeah exactly right mate it'll feel like a walk in the park when you occasionally win a semi-final or something no we win everything per capita though mate so i think that's the um that's how we that's how we cry ourselves to see it right yeah okay but we won per capita there's not many people that play sports here but uh tim tim i'm gonna take a wild guess and assume tim's from new zealot as well so sorry in advance tim he's asking about uh joey manu he says he's heard he he's heard on the rumor millies coming back in round 22 would you buy him in round 22 or wait till after the round 23 buy before you got him in i'm not actually convinced i'd be shopping for joey manu at all this year not getting in a the center position yeah yeah definitely i think uh and certainly just get him after the buy if you want like a point of difference for the head-to-head finals after the buy then yes fill your votes but i think seems risky and unlikely to come back 22 anyway and from what i've heard and seen yep uh we have uh dylan meek who wants to know what we think trendal average is rest of season as the dominant half without nicko uh i if you had to pick a number just one number we'll just call it a whole number so not like x.3 or whatever 51 is a number that i've got in my mind yeah if i had to give a range i think i'd go 49 to 51 but i think i'm happy with 50 or i'm even happy with 51 i think i think it's a we've seen it before the shark's drawer is the favorable thing for me that's right yeah he's kind of playing like he's kind of in the shit the shit book's a little bit with the sharks with his off field staff and you have to imagine he's playing for a job and you know and also maybe it's a little bit of contract season with um you know nicko he's got a chance to prove himself as a dominant half and a pay packet with a lot of the top flight halves in the nrl sort of aging out or with dc's 34 moses 30 benhan johnson is 30 shawn johnson yeah like there's uh there's some dollar he does on the table for a good half back and i mean he's got a really good opportunity here so he like there's absolutely no reason why it can't be 55 though that's the point like if if we get to if we get to um the end of the season and trindall is average more than dill and brown rest of season from now it will not shock me yeah it's absolutely in his warehouse um and yeah i i think um yeah i got i got no issues with it i think it's actually a good option yeah i'm actually more talking myself into trindall the more i think about it this is what happens with us on the part a week yeah talk ourselves into guys that we hadn't even really considered that much yeah i definitely considered that obviously austo did obviously austo did yeah does he he's a he's noted trindall hater though isn't he uh i think so he's a nay sale yeah yeah it's a good thing that his opinion isn't valid that's why we deleted the sunday podcast it got yeah lost to the ether or guy yeah lost yeah lost um matt pitman he is ranked 46 he's got six trades left i don't know why he's asking us questions but i don't know why do they ask us mate uh he is considering going wish art to roger two of us a check so he can move stufano onto yo but it'll mean he'll be holding sharp as a red dot um i would prefer uh that you would go sharp to like mcclean or even like a jake tungo or something like that rather than having that red dot and i would keep stufano and turn wish art into the best player that you can instead what do you think about that i think that's fine i think like wish arts break even as like what in the forties it's more about the fact that he's at some point in the not too distant future he's going to be a ten-minute bench hookup yeah yeah agree so yeah i just don't see the point in holding sharp rest of season and selling stufano yeah i feel i agree i agree yeah i i mean what's the price difference on the problem is sharp is only like 340 or something i think yes stufano's 566 and sharp is 364 so let's call it 200k um the difference the difference between roger is 475 and mcclean's like four is like 280 yeah you have to imagine that that can be done i think um unless until we get some mail that um chances out for the rest of the season i don't know if i'd be buying yeah no roger anyway because yeah no absolutely we don't play around 27 and i think like i mean worst case he's back in the centers next week or the or on the wing um so now i i think i think i like wish art and sharp to mcclean and yo yeah and if you can't quite afford yo let's say it's dollar sensitive and you can't get there you know you got what's in there who's 25k cheaper yeah so yeah or even if you're not like what's in because you're scared about the buy um tarpani or you know one of these sorts of guys tarpani's finished this buy i think that's is the way i would go uh what about okay current trade thoughts if months to start wish art to cleary pikorita starling yeah i don't know about i mean it's fine it is fine pikorita starling you don't like i just yeah i just don't know i i suppose we've talked about starling already um yeah it make up for your mind i suppose on him yeah he's the cheapest guy that could be a 50 point average 17th man um yeah yeah which i'm yeah i'm just make make your own uh risk assessment on on sticky i think i am generally fine with it yeah i'd really love to be able to get trindall instead of starling me too yeah if you can do that i know there's 70k there and that might be just too much money but i would prefer to do that uh calum johnson wants to know what we do literally to cleary he was going to anti-pod cleary but he's looked great last week uh this is because you've got littrell and you're holding littrell um and you've already said what you're doing with him i would have preferred to do that last week um but also he had a hundred break even last week you had no difference yeah one week yeah like first week back from hammy injury no but i i think what i'm saying is you've kind of done half the work half the battle with littrell um you know i kind of want to know more about his injury before i sell him now because you've kind of already held on yeah um i i feel like it's positional based so like for for my team specifically i've got cherry evans galvan and foggy plus i'm holding weeks so i don't need another half as much as clear he's awesome i'd love to have him in my team whereas i only have cambal tardesco and then garek and i'm playing weeks in my wing full back until littrell comes back and i'm choosing between aero and howarth is my other center so in that situation i really like the trial's positional value to me is high um and i feel like he's not going to get ruled out for the season even if stats can't make the finals because i don't think he's that i tend to agree with you on that um i don't think they're gonna shut him down i think he just loves footy he just keeps getting injured i prefer to like like i love to you know and it's all positional like if you've got let's say you got like tardesco cambal and iris wall or short carat like you know caras and garek and whiten and you like you don't need it and you got a positional you know you like you got heaps of centers and wing full backs which is the case with my head to head team you might look at it something like that but that head team never got the trial so it doesn't have that problem where yeah you did that and you're like okay i got heaps of centers and wing full backs but i need our gun captain you might pull the trigger on that yeah i think i think i agree i in the head to head team i traded the trial last week to get um call him a tonguey because i needed a mid um and then i've got enough trades to buy the trial bet if he comes back um so it's hard to do that but i think if um yeah in your case particularly marco it makes a complete sense and and yeah we obviously can't see your team so there's a bit of crystal ball gazing going on but um i i pretty much said every every player's name the whole whole time now yeah that's it yeah now you've obviously got to um yeah you've got to got to sort of look at your configuration as you say uh who would you sell more likely out of plathamphenoe i think plath just because of the oh did plath get jul i assume he did no i didn't know you already had the jul he's a half jul that's right half is such an unhelpful jul to have um i think i'd rather sell plath if i'm honest yes yep i agree although plath's gonna play one more game so maybe not oh no yeah true true yeah no okay yep uh plathans tafano are sell and if you were going to sell them the best middles to bring in i think we covered that already i think the order i would put them in is hars yo watson and then everybody else and like call him a tonguey yes i i like at that point like if i was call on a tonguey i feel i just like i'd really i would wait a week and go to Murray but maybe that's just me with my goggles on i don't know but yeah yeah no i agree i in like if you can wait a week you can get watson for cheaper as well possibly or or you know a 680k pat carrigan yeah he's because he's like seven just over 700 isn't he 711 with an 80 plus break even this week yeah that's pretty nice i think yeah i think he's gonna be pretty good for i was just there by right in the middle of he had finals isn't it yeah classic bronchos yeah i don't have any bronchos at all in my team so i don't mind picking up one if i if it presents itself yeah i've got hars in both but yeah i don't know if i really want to no okay yeah i think i agree i i think i want to be getting harsed this week or otherwise yo value for money i think what's it i think yo's good i like yo just you know upside you know he's really really cheap compared his starting price and his you know potential so and he's you know he's a bit of a you know a bit of value for money so and then he also second part if monsters back is it time to jump off hues obviously we covered that earlier uh four trades left has enough trade in the trade cash in the bank also has enough cash in the bank to go weeks to clear e um or he had enough except for clear e scored the score that he scored which now he doesn't have enough cash so do you don't you mate no he doesn't okay so he wants to trade fenu to gotho don't do that um or he could just go fenu and iro to mcclean and yo um i think i would go instead of just do your original plan you get trindle no at that point you just go weeks to oh hang on yeah yep yeah so where were we yeah fenu and weeks to clear e and trindle yeah yeah love it do that don't okay gotho he sucks uh yo or foggy last trader the final trade of the season oh you got to get you got to get yo at this point no hold whoever player that you're that you're selling oh i save save it for an injury save a trade brother yeah save a trade that's max trade for four four trades two weeks in a row that's too many find a trade that you don't need to do that's the answer to that question so so because we get we got eight last week right yeah so he's already used but that means he's still got three he's obviously decided on three this week yeah yeah oh god save it and leave it unless that's the last trade and then they're saving some for injury maybe that seems unlikely if it's if it's that case if it's like oh no i'm saving four for injury and this is my last upgrade of the season would you prefer your foggy um i um i prefer i prefer foggy yeah yeah it's controversial i got i'm last week um well fog very heavy snoop snoop foggy dog snoop foggy dog this is a big foggy podcast yep uh we're in the end game now boys who's the absolute top trade in this week can't be clear e i think it is clear e or you said it can't be clear e oh foggy foggy the foggy the top trade in this week of every player i think like if if position's not an option i think it's a bit i like foggy i do like no more bias i have a question is there any material difference between foggy and trindle yes i think it's about 220k is there a difference really uh it's what what what's the difference trindles in a better team he's a dominant playmaker he's a gold kicker the other half does sweet f.a yeah i i don't i i think it's about nine points why um just look at foggy at the start of the season man like he just yeah he used to say that trindles not going to get hot with his soft schedule and he could he could any will um but i i don't know if he's got a 60 average in him i think he like best case scenario is probably like 55 as people didn't think moses had a 60 average in him before he did it either no i know i know people didn't think yo did people didn't think michpahn ant did like yeah it's hard to pick a player's purple patch the top trade in a week is Braden trindle top trade in a week i think it's a great answer but i um rubs gone fog okay what do you do i we're doing a little uh it's no i'm not making any more jessie bits what about a nine what about a nine point handicap on the two oh i'll take that are you taking are you taking trindle plus nine best to see oh yeah on foggy i can get me like really good odds i take him head to head yeah okay yeah like you gave me like three to one i'll take him head to head yeah yeah so i really i i get both i think get both for the money for the money yeah there's absolutely no reason why trindle can't average 55 based on the archetype it's only the archetype like yeah you know it's dominant playmaker it's the shawn johnson arse isn't it straw you know there's all of the things are in his favor like adkinson might do like hundred kick meters a week that's like two points you know compared to strange it would do literally zero but yeah no the sharks is yeah it's a thing so yeah six trades left happy with my team except no clearly is he a must for all uh must for overall it would take me two trades to get in bringing them down to four trades how many trades do you want after this week in an ideal world more than i have more than i have but i mean i think i think clearly is it not a must but it's pretty close no i'm not going to get in for overall yeah i could do two trades i could do i'm looking at like if i did hands down to like jake tungo i could go fenu to cleary or i can just do like fenu to even trindle and put some more cash in the bank for my future trades or fenu up to like i can't quite get at him like if mary was available this week i can afford mary but like i could get eligatoa or you know someone like that um this week dylan brown yeah and i'm i'm sort of i'm i'm sort of more preferring that way than the cleary route as much as i know he's uh awesome he's going to average probably 70 rest of the season uh i just i i i don't want to spend that extra trade to get that five to ten points yeah i'm with you today it's it's probably the cheapest we'll ever get cleary um oh i i wish i could like like if i had like if if david fafida went down or like if i got in if i get a thing tomorrow that says literal mitchell ruled out for rest of season that's your trade i'll be yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah bam done but and that's probably a good insurance policy to have as well um yeah in case yeah yeah because clearies break even won't be like gigantic no it's uh so still 73 which he should punch out against a dragons but never know yeah but it's not going to go out of control his price like he's still really really really cheap in way under value so yeah the answer is he's at ideally get him but not a must for overall don't like destroy your team to get him i think is probably the but if you got like a Fletcher sharp or a you know one of these sorts of scrubs or like you know fay new and and will penicini who's not gonna have mitchell mose's rest of season or era let's say you got howeth garrick and whiten already and you can do like cleary and mcclean and trade out penicini or era and fay new like something like that you do i do that and i leave myself with 400 but like for me i don't really have that that sort of trade option that that makes sense for my team composition without leaving myself short so yeah situational but suggest uh Joel asks uh your 17th player can be any position you have coverage for every position on your bench which position do you go for it's kind of a hard one because i suspect the correct answer is either a wing full back or a middle just based on the fact that you need three of them on any given week you know but most people like ideally like i think a middle forward is the answer yeah yeah or like is there like a drill like a current or something is probably fine for a 17th yeah an edge middle duel but like let's say you had like for me right i've got rumin cotta kamri kinesan tapani and then like a ryan mattison it's my my four so i'm like you know something like that you're like yeah i can't i'm happy with that because that gives me that one extra but ideally you really want you ideally want you're starting 13 plus two very position not plus one so like as many duels as you can have the better because it covers you for injuries so i suppose the correct answer is a half mid duel like uh next place you know or uh or like a wing full back center or or something like you know like or a half center half center my boy jack whiten yeah yeah if you got if you got the jewels like you know between jane cambal garrick howeth correct as what's in whiten you know these guys you really should be able to cover your entire sort of team yeah and at that point you just just make sure you have like a starting team plus two of every position like via by a jewels is the answer so more than but like it seems to be the half meta at the moment look at like a lot of balls going through the halves like you got cleary and you can get like a cherry evidence foggy trindle dillon brown galvin you know there's all these good options and then here's and then there's the middle options we got you know yeah you know you get a harseo and finil blake uh what's in colamatangi you know there's a lot of good options here there's sort of pretty isolated in the guns like you know there's like three gun edge like like you got like nikara sort of a the feeder and christen nikata isn't there like yeah yeah yeah and then it's like yeah just just the best player available and and cover with jewels is probably the answer and that's the end of the the facebook questions you want to jump in this one let's quickly i have just scored up yep and then after that we'll do that chord this chord and that chord good good dead joke from you mate yeah and that's right that i'm not actually a dad but dad's more of a state of mind i think absolutely i can never figure out with discord um this is a question for austin but like how to get it in chronological order it just does my brain in um there's from rissa buying cleary mcclean and current this week are there any other mids worth looking at i think we've talked about most of them i suppose in that price bracket it's probably just karen isn't it yeah um yeah i think i think we've covered all those good options here also who is the best outright sorry who is the best outright best buy from them for mid half winkfulback or hooker not already mentioned try again i don't know i don't get it i don't get it i think yeah we've covered a little really good buys this week you know you know would you would you buy harry grant at six forty or whatever yeah i could trust that i think we're sure it's going to end up on the bench playing like fifteen minutes fifteen minutes a hooker yep cool uh thoughts on trading this is from reese thoughts on trading api short turnaround calf niggle to silver on the bench thinking api to house i i mean i would do that yeah as long as you got the uh he's got what's there he's got what's in now what i feel like um best sub 400k option to shift final two is it just all the way down to mcclean or savage yeah yeah i think so cool um semi throw if you can get to four hundred and two k and get feliz kafusi he might be the answer to the question hey police say we haven't even mentioned him once yet we're a big feliz kafusi pod shame stew and austin taking over your Wednesday pod and spreading our uh kafusi love um semi throw clearing in two trades or keep my last four well that is how do we talk about this before i take the two i think in that case you're not not clearing yep yep yep um this is from nz james kyota um hey lads seven trades left would you pull the trigger on these four trades okay so plasti clearly sharp to savage wish art to trindle and final to fennel blake that's pretty good eh yeah i think ideally not fennel blake so he's got 49k extra can you do anything with that not really eh could you get one some i i think if you go to mcclean instead of savage oh they don't do it you could get get what's in yeah that might be the way to go cool um jimmy five trades left thinking maybe the first two hues or plath to clary you know plath yep strange to hammer simply to mcclean yeah that's a fun one i don't i don't really hate that mmm so please just and so please just annoying now i think i'm probably just gonna keep him but it's the in the sam hues bracket of wishing i didn't have him but yeah unless um penicini is pretty grim i'd tell him first oh sorry didn't realize this is the questions pod yeah cheers mate um who's more of a sell penicini or weeks penicini yep um head-to-head can trade wish art to anyone is barnett too expensive i think we get clary yeah clary has yo what's in come on of them yep yep yep yep oh he wants edge cover would you get kolimatangi i'd get for feeder or kritan he's got them why does he need edge cover then oh you got to have you just told me you need to your favorites yeah i think kolimatangi is probably the best but he's quite expensive yeah no just just do that can tell uh jeff is bill can tell any of weeks final or hands as a straight swap to clary that's fine that's fine that's fine yep um sure we've asked the shit thinking about the deep end of head-to-head finals as is ryan um looking at cash down options for wish art but can afford to not fully cash down best player to loop over those two rounds for around 450 or under so like a kavuzzi deep head-to-head finals he's looking at 25 26 this is where we're into the draw here Roberto yeah okay um it's 25 so 25s cows on by yeah um so just looking at who's got soft match-ups so mainly soft match-up bulldog soft match-up bronchos are they playing for the for the people manlo manlo manlo manlo playing the tigers bulldogs are playing the warriors bronchos playing the eels that's going to be um shawn johnson's last home game though so boy is it all you're assuming he's back i think he's going to play one last game for at home that's my that's my raiders panthers avoid that one the storm dolphins avoid that one where the dolphins got me storm oh yeah it's not great a so avoid the rabbit o's nights i think but i think a rabbit o might be okay um the roosters against the titans could be a play and the sharks against the dragons would be a play trindles the answer to that question there 450 though yeah but i don't know who was the other who was the other does he say hell who else is bringing it um no he just wants a cash down for wisher under 450 yeah if you can manipulate it and find a way to make that into trindle i think that's the preferred option i think just do that yeah two soft two soft match-ups there yeah uh but the oh the tight and yeah the nights have a pretty good one uh the roosters i'm okay with the nights and the roosters uh schedules as well um 450 this is not really anyone around that price is there what's uh what's like a greggy gregm what's the season more than that now 520 yeah that's a bit much did he down i think i'll just cash down a yeah you probably just go to probably just go down or or or just get stalling or just stalling i suppose yeah you just go all the way down to mcclean or um what did i say nights and who was the other one roosters you said yeah oh you're man what about tanya mill ran and smith ran and smith no i think uh yeah i think cash all the way down or you know cash all the way down or um cool yeah sorry maybe go go cool uh yo what clearing guns you hit oh clearing um dual bags versus karen versus foggity jrindel no no no foggity cool um should i go finew and egan to query and mcclean or plath and sharp to query and mcclean oh plath and sharp to clear and mcclean plath and sharp yeah um yeah you can sell egan because you've got what's a hu what's an hulkage no but why would you sell egan he just got a 70 something didn't he uh i don't know i didn't uh i didn't wash that yeah i just put up a monster score monster score yeah yeah other than arguably a better own right now than plath egan's like really cheap as well but we've just got one more buy either cash out really buy it he's like he's like under oh he's jrindel yes is it worth getting clear in a cash down or should i go cheaper and have a play at fog burto dill brown or trindel along with upgrade a plath finew to ac who's ac thanks karen yeah that that or i i like it so okay on yeah get angus karen yeah trindel and angus or dill brown and angus so foggy and angus that's that's all works really good so basically is worth getting cleary and a 25 to 40 point score or two 45 plus scorers i feel like they're better than 45 plus yeah you're gonna get 55 to 60 out of dill and brown and angus karen that's 110 and then cleary the cleary it's just gets in play clearly 70 you know yeah yeah yeah i think if you manipulate who you put the captaincy on you can get pretty close to cleary like fafita like ryan correctly pointed out on the lost pod last night that 56 is david fafita's worst score since around four since around eight sorry yeah and head head average head average 66 against manly he just had an off game quite literally hasn't scored under 50 this year he's been phenomenally good 51 58 but just not quite good enough what queen's land yeah no well no he's good for fantasy he's a captain he's he's the best captaincy option and he doesn't have him he's made of like turbo juice i really like has i know Austin pointed it out but has is a really good option this week is about if you don't have cleary i guess a bulldog absolutely yeah it's just that that bulldog's game was just all through the middle last week yeah it was like all the middle for awesome they got no they don't have a single middle forward that can tackle paint arse i'm sure no way yeah it's going to be current there's a big meat pie coming any monster yeah oh i fear for read money yet again cool that's all mate that's all discord look at us go mate see look at it so the common denominator me quick podcast oh is that are we done was that all the facebook's i think we're done yeah i've done the facebook oh no i didn't disjose facebook the people of us people will be angry if they listen for an hour and a half and then we didn't answer their questions yeah so their question's 80 minutes in yeah sorry stew shoo's having like some holiday steaks or something are they yeah what's he up to yeah oh they only got a couple here anyway fermal or a ponger for the run home Rob oh no oh he's on by though right yeah it's a weird question yeah i've ponger though is yeah it's a way to where you can get bigger yeah top three guns for most overall points rest of the year under 705 k oh wow did they give us any options or do i have to no just who would we pick so um is it like tom jaboyevich maybe i think total points we're looking for some for players with team in teams without a buy uh so dylan brown's the first one that comes to my mind uh yep um it is not terrible oh it's little it's little it's little it's little it is little yeah little nine eight six nine eight addons gonna have a buy um but yeah take a little i like dylan brown i like i like marie next week but total points doesn't help yeah um yeah they're the two to the big ones and then outside of that i really i don't know i'm just i think you just have to go all the way down to your son tricky yeah tricky chris tricky jessip yeah that's him uh who's a more urgent trade in angerskriten or isay yo i wouldn't say either of them are urgent um probably christen because of the like depth of the position has it except uh angerskriten said a buy in two weeks or yo did you say yeah yeah yeah it has to be yo okay just because of the buy yeah you're right if there was no buy if there was no buy i'd say angers yeah but there is a buy so i'm saying yo uh and that is the extent of the boom or last questions i have a question from uh desser actually he told me to ask you he does ah when am i gonna buy up the pies um who would you sell first out of may or kart right like to rel me i i assume so that oh he's got i don't know why he's only 53 average i don't know why we're selling him yeah uh is kart right name of the edge of swic uh yes well either of them why are we selling them i don't know if that's all i got that's all i got it's me that's on me yeah okay man may has just been pretty gone since i sold a me cool career fair no he has uh yeah he's he just uh started a bit slow and then or started quick and then slowed down and then just he slowed down he's just been invaluable over the origin period yeah that's the thing hey like just that kind of round 13 time where we needed him he was not great but i never had him so i've just been sad watching watching him get that uh 20 minute game against the bulldogs or whatever it was that was really awesome but outside of that it's been a shit show all season not only him so yeah got a 95 against the boys that's real tough yeah it's uh yeah it's gone well so cool all right i think that'll do mate uh any closing thoughts i feel like maybe uh the only other thing is i do i'm going to do right a bit of justice here yeah yeah yeah you promise it made me promise so um if you make a rule you should stick to that rule the problem is i've just set roboff he's going to spit his funding cholera over the keyboard here um like i don't mind if you make a decision like i i think the dual position the the way that they came up with the jewels and the way that they've been administering it has been great ever since like sam burr just had that edge duel where he didn't play a single game on the edge but he was a valuable edge or whatever but like for the last like three or four years i feel that the edge is that like the dual positions has been pretty good and the idea of like oh if your player just gets play just plays there because there's there's injuries and they've got no other choice they're not a jewel they're just a guy who's playing there because they've got no other choice and like the criteria needs to be that they're being selected over another player who's playing in that position you know they need to beat them out for that role and change positions and like that is that common sense practicality like trying to make the game as similar as real life perfect stuff great job connor watson there is no doubt in my mind that connor watson's played hooker this year however it was only when brandon smith was injured and when he wasn't injured he's been playing lock and then filling in hooker which people haven't been getting jewels for yeah how in the name of sweet baby jesus did tarnay mill not get center jewel this week or jackson forward he's played like five games in a row at center like he's played more games at center than he's played on the wing this year he's played at center before as well so it's not even like oh yeah he's just filling in like he's a bit he's been a center he's a center he plays center that's at one of the positions he plays he's like can i can i got the jewel and mill didn't do it do they just pretend he's not exist i like i that is the one that baffles me the most what's in by all of their administration of this shouldn't have got the jewel and bow firm or shouldn't have got the jewel if we change in the rules luke's like you know luke's is like luke's is a good center bow firm or is a good center watson's a good hooker all right that's fine i would be fine for them to have the jewel what i'm not fine he started with them saying yeah these are the rules and then going you know what i really wanted to say f the rules there and i've exploited myself out that's basically what they've gone they're going you know what we're not going to give these poor bastards more trades we're just going to give every single player in the game a jewel position eligibility it's ridiculous except millm and except for the players jack o forward by the rules who deserve a jewel and then we're not going to give them the jewel yeah ludicrous yeah it is insane and especially with with hooker which has been such a difficult position like but here's the up here's the other thing right if you're applying the common sense let's say you're applying the common sense rule at that point camera mary gets the edge does he not absolutely got their blinkers on for if someone is injured or suspended or you know it annoys me so much every man and their dog knows next week it's going to be camera mary with a number 12 on his back and the only reason he's not got jewel is because he's been suspended for a couple of weeks and i'm fine with the oh look he's played a fair bit in that position and we've decided to change the way we're administering it and we're going to give these basic jewels that's fine do it in the off season i think that's right i'm almost like i'm almost like we should do away with the jewels altogether i think they should just sit it correctly maybe have one sweep uh have one sweep i know like the time the timing for the jewels i'm okay with and i'm like oh it's just so arbitrary though like yeah he's got someone misses a week if someone misses a week they should they should get it like like baitman should have got it just because he's hurt gamer should get it like they moved him to lock like like baitman they moved into lock he was like he was going to be the lock and then he got injured right and then they just forget about him he just needs to get to the jewel it's just yeah it's insane you have to you have to play your four games in a row before the jewel window otherwise they forget about you and you can get effed yeah it's just annoys me so much yeah we need to have a clear criteria yeah just apply the rules you're right just apply the rules look criteria that's and and yeah play on yeah people we should be out of the administrators with consistency consistency is hard to achieve it is but with with something like this it's really easy like you got to watch the game if they run out on the paddock and they're playing in center they get put down as a center you know like you know like like let's say that you know like sometimes you know they list member josh jackson used to do it they used to put him in the yeah tons of hairs to it as well all jersey but he's playing lock right yeah if he runs out and he's playing lock for four weeks in a row but he's wearing the 12 jersey he's a lock and anyone with half a brain does it and there needs to be common sense applied or no common sense applied and it's just we follow the team list they play three games starting in that position no matter why and then they get it whatever the criteria is but it needs to be consistent agree agree yeah look Ryan I hope we did you justice even wish art wish art why is tiring wish art a wing full back half jewel the position that he plays the most in the NRL before this year is hooker i think he started why is he half wing full back did he start the year is just a full back I've made it yeah yeah potentially and then he got half yeah it's it all comes back to just like terrible like like gimer i'm sure has never played edge like in reserve grade and it starts as an edge well he's an expression for you when was jai arrow when's the last time he played middle it's actually annoying but that's the that's the carryover one like the tannaboyed one where he hadn't played hooker um brandon middle had the brandon brandon middle brandon middle brandon middle let's stick to that brandon middle but brandon middle cheese um smith like didn't play like didn't play mid really at all this year or last year so why is he still got it yeah sometimes there's weird carryover once max plus half jewel probably you know like why is ramen phytala mariner a middle he's never played middle in his life short of like Trent Barrett thinking he was a lock for about three games like it's just it's just historic people get it because they you know used to be a hybrid player in the yeah back in the day annoys me but like okay but let's say if you were gonna award kind of what's in uh one because he is one of those hybrid guys you'd give him a half hooker jul oh like a sorry a mid hooker jul because that's what he's been doing i think ryan and i talked about this and maybe it was with you as well but this should almost be a utility position if they can go anywhere yeah oh i mean that'd be so but like well it'd be fun like a flex like a flex oh i mean that is just wrong i think that'd be fun yeah i don't know there's only a couple of players he could give that to but yeah yeah kurt man kurt man you could have but it would just make him it would just be a really interesting position to feel like there's quite a few of them going around um but yeah not many good ones though it would get abused it is just kind of what's in a it's like Dylan Walker would be quite good at it he would be quite good yeah yeah Dylan Walker Dylan Walker Connor Watson and and kurt man it probably the only three that like genuinely you could see them hairy grands in origin davie cook yeah no sinner sinner jul mate how he said the kurt man doesn't have a jul at all so this is the thing he's but he has only been playing in the middle i'm even playing in the middle but that's why yeah it is fine just anyway yeah so that's it hopefully we've sufficiently got that ran to if you yeah i think it's it'd be worth writing a strongly worded email um and i'm sure ryan will he's a he's a man of a man of many words i'm not a i'm not a big email guy i'm not going to do that uh you're a stand up and stand up and shout on the streets yeah kind of a shout on the streets guy yeah i run enough emails on my day job mate i'm just yeah trying to make the world better one one uh ran to the time on a podcast yeah that's it that's it all right all right all right what are you what are you trades this week mate just uh for the listeners throw over all team i suspect it's i haven't done anything yet uh i suspect fay new to trendle is on the cards though love that um and that'll leave me with about 180k and three trades remaining uh which will be exclusively for injuries and droppings uh i'd love to squeeze uh another gun in uh probably at the behest of kai peace paul um so it could be like kai peace paul to watson or something like that uh potentially but i've already got two roosters so kind of hoping i can keep kpp um my big concern is i'm really concerned about ryan madison um so i'm sort of saving some money to turn him into a someone that's not shit if he gets dropped um yeah so yeah all right concerned with the eels though i like any of those yeah weeks yeah yeah weeks into like you know i got the like 180 plus weeks would get me to like yo um but then i'd have to be playing euro every single week and how with every single week which is until until um the trail gets back instead of sort of picking the match ups between the two of them so that's sort of you know i i think it's just a one this week and then eyeball it and sort of if it gets to two or three more weeks and i don't have any injury problems and the trail comes back and i got 22 21 red dot green dots i mean i'll probably you know i look to spend that last couple of bits and that's that cash but that's it and then yeah head to head um mcclean and it's uh yeah cleary and mcclean in and and penicine in euro or faneu out i'm just going to work out which one but i think it's going to be euro just because i've got like eight centers and i've only got three middles and faneu so are you comfortable with getting mcclean over savage this week as a podcast um theoretically uh that's obviously cheaper yeah right yeah so it's going to have both i'm just thinking for like for if obviously it's probably to positionally dependent um for your cash out if you didn't need the center savage is better because there's no one coming back to take your spot that's my thoughts but alla mottie's out for six to eight right so yeah it's just the other mcclean that might take a spot but unlikely what are you doing um i have to sell big four bait men have sell bait men have probably will sell either p s paul or um weeks and overall um probably get cleary i don't know i i really like trend although i i'll have a look at that i probably can afford them and then head to head yeah just yeah get foggy and clearing just gonna cool good yeah good good very good all right uh well in that case thank you very much for joining me on this uh definitely recorded podcast and we will hopefully uh we've answered all your questions if we haven't hit 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