The Cārvāka Podcast

Islamism In Canada

In this podcast, Kushal speaks with Daniel Bordman and Salman Sima about Islamism in Canada. Since the October 7th attack in Israel, Canada has been experiencing constant protests from Palestinian supporters, who have been chanting violent slogans and targeting many Jewish establishments.

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#Islamism #Palestine #Israel #Hamas

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Duration:: 1h 34m
Broadcast on:: 17 Jul 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

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I don't recognize you as the queen of this country. I don't recognize you as the queen of this country. I don't recognize you as the queen of this country, I don't recognize you as the queen of this country. I don't recognize you as the queen of this country. I don't recognize you as the queen of this country, I don't recognize you as the queen of this country, I don't recognize you as the queen of this country, I don't recognize you as the queen of this country, I don't recognize you as the queen of this country, I don't recognize you as the queen of this country, I don't recognize you as the queen of this country, I don't recognize you as the queen of this country, I don't recognize you as the queen saying I said, this is my way. I get that right now. It's going on. I can at least understand the indigenous person thinking they are the queen of everything, literally. But like, it's so crazy. We're like, this is middle aged Pakistani guy going, no, no, this, this is my land. No, no, Zionist years. Like this is the love and the universe is just let this go on because oh, we want to be bad. You did that. How much money Muslim brotherhood, military government. Hate them. Yeah, they are money. SCCP. You're going to see that jokingly with some friends, I said that when we're going to talk after the what happened in the COVID and we see that a lot of things was fake and not so scientific. Oh, Sam, what do you have as a new conspiracy? As a new conspiracy. Yeah, you should see that the role of CCP Chinese Communist Party and the role of Qatar and Muslim brotherhood and the role of Iraq, you see, behind those certain protests and things. If you want me as a person, my first eyes was 17 now, 20 to three, 23 years. I am involved in this business, business of fighting for freedom. So if you want to, some person like me, believe that all of these things, all of those unique tents is a grassroot movement, all of a certain happen. No, I don't buy that. Yes, I don't buy this nonsense. There is a hand behind that, hands of CCP, Qatar government, Muslim brotherhood, I urge the service. So I want to ask this question, what I have been observing for the last few months or a year or so, living in India, sometimes I'm here, sometimes I'm there. So I just look at all of this, suddenly random people come on the streets. Listen, it was a horrifying thing what happened in October 7th. I remember I was in Pearson airport, I think 8th or 9th of October, when you had sent me that video, when you were in the rally. I was literally at the airport. Oh, the 9th was the 9th of October 9th in July, so I was at the airport flying back to India at that point of time. I was here when this horrific incident of October 7th happened. And since then, I have seen a change in Canadian society. I see absurd sort of things happening. I'm pretty open as far as, listen, I think people should have a right to be on the streets in support of Palestine. I think that's a legitimate right to free speech as long as they are peaceful. My thing is you have a right to free speech, you don't have the right to enter father. Yeah, so I understand that in fact, I've never hidden my support. Yeah, Israel, I've always been there. But I'm also an Indian podcaster who's had Palestinian voices on my podcast. I've never hidden that either. I had Shadi Hamir on the podcast for the record. I did call Shadi. I watched him. He never replied. I don't know why. I think Shadi is a good human being. I told him, come, give your point of view. Shadi didn't turn up. I don't know why. Maybe he did not read my message. I'm willing to give the benefit of doubt to people. But I'm also sympathetic to what happens to kids in Gaza. I'm not going to mend my ways there either. Any drop of blood is on the hand of Hamas. But if I read the charter of Hamas, what am I supposed to be blind to it? What do I say to that? If Hamas, hypothetically, if Israel governs Gaza, Gaza will survive. The probabilities of Gaza is having a better life under Israeli governance. Everyone just shows that the Palestinians do better in Israeli territories than they do in every other Arab country by standard living things. And standard living of Gazans goes like when Israel left Gazans to survive withdrew. It wasn't good for Gazans. Yeah. And one more thing. One more thing. More than women has more rights and freedom in Israel than in comparative any Islamic country. You know why I believe every single world you guys say is, I come from a land that was divided on religious land. Yeah. So in 1947, so nobody can buy it more than I do because Indians and Israelis see through this bullshit. Look at Pakistan. It's a failed state. It's a pathetic idea. You know what the irony is? 60% of Pakistan is of people of my ethnicity. Punjabi. It's a damn shame. It's basically Pakistan is when Punjabi's go mental. That's what Pakistan is. What's the name of the regime in Pakistan? I don't know. Islamic Republic. Islamic Republic of Pakistan. What's the name of the regime in Iran? Islamic Republic. So what was Afghanistan before Taliban? Islamic Republic. And I also want to I also want to stand up for something. Listen, I anyway, you know, to the chagrin of many right wing Indian supporters, they think I am, you know, I'm like, I will never say for the annihilation of any religion. I don't believe in that. I believe religions have right to exist. I've always stood up for, you know, my Muslim listener base or whatever little Muslim is their base. I can't get Muslim bigotry. Well, we'll shout out to Muhammad and Ahmed. Yeah. But the point is that the two of you all religions are not the same. I've never hidden my views. Religions are different. The way is very different from any religious person has to believe that. Yeah. And all religions are different. You ask any enlightened Muslim in India, a very simple question. Why is India plural open democratic? And they'll say it's only because of the Indian Hindus. And I'll give you the evidence of that. And they don't want to be enough credit for that. Yeah, yeah. They don't. They are shut down on a daily basis. The reason Israel is democratic open plural liberal is because they're majority Jewish. I want to put that on record. Yeah. The credit is to the Jewish culture, to the Jewish people, to the Jewish way of thinking. And the credit is to the Hindu culture, to the Hindu way of thinking. They are compatible with democracy. You know how I know that? Look at Pakistan. Look at Pakistan. They are literally my people. They're like, if I did a DNA test of fucking myself and a Pakistani from Punjab. But then we're literally the same fucking people. The only difference is the religion changed. Yeah. And they have gone it. And you know, who can say that the most liberal Pakistan is you must have met them. You met Tahir Baha'i. You met so. Like Tahir Baha'i is a Pakistani, right? Tahir Baha'i always says, I was born in the wrong country. What does Tahir Baha'i say till the last day of his life? I was born in Pakistan. I didn't choose to be a Pakistani. I mean, I didn't. Even he was a Haji. He went to Mac here to make up. Yeah. And this is my problem. Why does Canada? Both of you go to these protests every time. I see the cops behaving in absurd days. What? So why we are doing this podcast is what the fuck our cops in Toronto do? What the fuck is the entire policy? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, Salman was, I mean, I don't could say. So like, you got arrested on a could stay this year. Our could stay is a day sponsored and created by the Islamic regime in Iran by the Khomeini. I've been there. They have posters of Khomeini and Khomeini on the thing. They bust people in from Mississauga. It's a whole it's an urgency up. And for years politicians have promised to ban it because there's been like videos coming out. Like one year they played as an opening song. The opening was like a song about decapitating Jews. Why are you arresting him? Why are you arresting him? What is this charge? What is this charge? What is it charge? What is it being charged, sir? His arm is dislocated. This is the Toronto Police. Arresting someone for saying Hamas is a terrorist organization. At an alt at al-Quds day, the international day against Israel set by the Islamic Republic of Iran. There's over here in the white country. Excuse me. What is he being charged with? What is the charge? Sir? Sir? Sir? What is this charge? That's between him and the police house. Well, they should announce it, right? What is the charge? So you're not even announcing what the charge is? Fascinating. The police is not saying what they're charging him. I was so lucky, still I wear a Canadian flag and you can see that. My shoulder is dislocated and they are pushing the right shoulder. What is this charge, sir? You should announce why you are arresting him. There are still laws in this country. Hard and what is the charge up? It doesn't matter. You're not allowed to tell somebody what a cop or you're going to get arrested for obstruct. What obstructs him? There's your officer. There is your officer, okay? This is crazy. This is Toronto Police, by the way. Cushy job just beating the citizens. What? They're heads off kill them, dancing the blood, like literal, like, again, like open specific. This is exactly what calisthen is doing. Yeah, it's exactly what calisthen is doing. I mean, this is why I got some mad at the calisthenics. What's wrong with Canada? This is why I go eight shit on the calisthenics, because I know this. Like, I know, I know what it's like to have someone just like stand there, but it's like in a different language. Like, we're going to kill all of them like this with the sword. And then it's like, yeah, that's bad. Those are the bad. Several politician in several occasions. Oh, I'll go stay rally. We're going to ban it. There is no room. There is no, Canada, all of them nonsense. And when usually I involve myself to any protest or any counter protest, I consider myself as a patriot, Iranian. So it has to be some link, you know, that all of a sudden, I cannot go for the protest that it is not related to. The reason that I choose al-God say, because it's sponsored by the regime in Iran, I called my friends, Bam and Reza, some political prisoner friends. Guys, are you in? It was like a Hollywood movie. Did it? Dude, are you in? Yes. Yes. Two minutes conversation. No meeting, nothing. Okay. I prepared a sign. Then I said that let's go. And we were peacefully. I am firm. I don't let anyone bully me. I don't let police officers violate my charter of rights and freedom. I don't let Jihadi's intimidate me. We were peacefully, even I said to some friends like Sia and the other guys, even you don't have the right to smoke. I said, no, we should be politically smart. We should not give them any inch of excuse. They said that, okay, control your anger, don't do anything, don't do anything. I suffer from the dislocated shoulder from another counter protest. At that day, I wear a Canadian flag on my shoulder. So then I said that, Saman, you're gonna face the crowd. Who gonna see your Canadian flag behind your shoulder? I said that, okay, how many hands you have? One of them doesn't work and you have one hand. Hamas is a terrorist group, which is terrorists in Canada designated in Canada. In the least, it's an official Canadian law. I was in a sidewalk, peaceful and disciplined. Then police officer came to bully me. Okay, you want to explain it? Yes. We copped him to bully him and sort of take him away. And the cops sort of like, there's videos. 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