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7.22.24 Gwynn & Chris Hour 4: Fair or Foul
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And I was talking about John Daly and the Open Championship because that is what it's called, Chris, the Open Championship. That's not the British Open. I heard it was British Open. No, not when they play in Scotland. No, that's not the same thing, Britain, Scotland. You know, I say a lot of really idiotic things on this show. And that one on Friday about Scotland and England got me the most grief in a long time, actually. Yeah, I heard. Like telling me that I'm embarrassing myself. I, you know, I try to help me. I try to help save you from this stuff. But you, you know, you have to argue with me. I told you it was a desperate attempt at getting you to stop calling it the British Open. I'm going to call it the British Open because that tells me what it is and where it is. Oh, Gonzo would like me to say the Open Championship with my pinky out like him. Yeah, drinking tea. All right. Golfs major winners, if you don't know, are usually guaranteed to spot in the field for that major for life. But more recently, some are starting to say it's time to put a limit on that and let other people in. This year, straight in the crosshairs is John Daly. His most recent withdrawal came this week at the Open Championship at Royal Trune. Sometime between his first round 11 over 82 in the beginning of the second round, Daly pulled out of the tournament, citing his chronically bum knee as the reason. This came just two months after Daly pulled the plug on the Friday morning of the PGA championship with a thumb injury. And if you are keeping track at home, six out of 63 is a double digit withdrawal rate on golfs. Let me I've phrased this again, poorly. We're drawing of six out of 63 tournaments is a double digit, which I don't even know what I'm trying to say. Basically, it seems like he is withdrawing from six out of 63 tournaments, but two in this year, for sure, Jack Nicholas for comparison played in 163 majors. He withdrew from the tournament just once at the 1983 Masters with back spasms. So after all of that, Tony, is it time to put a limit on former winners? Who could you ask me? Answer me a question. It's great. Who are who are these people that have a problem? Yeah, who are so upset by it? It's mostly, it's mostly, no, it's mostly just like fodder. It's mostly just like golf channel. If it got like writers saying, all right, well, because John Dale, because basically the argument is, John Daly keeps taking a spot and he keeps withdrawing from tournaments. It's like, if you can't get through the tournament, he's not, but he's not taking a spot. He earned that spot by winning the tournament. In 1995, it doesn't matter. That was 29 years ago. Let me ask you a question if, yeah, let's say, let's say Jack was still with us. Yes. I'm sorry. Let's say Arnold is still with us. Yes. Do you think he would? I mean, like, regardless of whether he was like not showing up or pulling out, should he not be able to keep his membership? My argument for that is that Arnold Palmer, like, was the guy in golf, John Daly, not selling tickets. By the way, Arnold Palmer, by the end, was not the reason people were showing up to the tournament, either. Yeah, you're right. It goes Arnold, goes Jack, then it goes Tiger. Those are the three that had the most impact involved. I think John should be able to keep his membership and continue to participate in. What is it? Not a membership. It's a, uh, his lifetime, uh, he's got a lifetime, uh, spot in the British over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think he should be able to. I hope he rolls up there in a wheelchair one year and says, I want to play when I'm nice. He probably will. Yeah. Well, I should take that back because no way John Daly is going to make it the 90, but that's going to be tough. He's going to be tough. I mean, he's had a tough life. I'm looking at a picture of him playing in the first round the other day. Tony, I, I, well, wait a minute. Is there any way I can show this? Um, yeah, take your camera. Okay. Tony, look at this picture. John Daly, tell me this guy shouldn't be in the tournament. He's, he's holding it. He 100% should be in the tournament. Can you see him? He looks like, yes, I can see it. It's awesome. He looks like Santa Claus. I love it. He should definitely be in the tournament. I love this post, man. He's got the beard down. He's got a cigarette hanging out. I honestly don't go. It's all about man. Anybody can play this stupid sport, except me, apparently. I honestly don't know what people are upset about. I mean, it's not, it's not, there's, it's not like they would have been able to play if he had not taken the spot. He's not eliminating somebody else's spot, right? They still get the top 128. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And then daily sins for a rounder. People just like to hate about the stupid. Like, I don't understand what the point of him. Okay. He shoots. He won the tournament in 1995. So what? Let him play. He's, he's being his best life. I'm just not mad about everything. Personally, I'm not that mad about it. But I do think whoever the, whoever the fodder crowd is over here, not get off. I do think it's kind of ridiculous that the guy just keeps with drawing for majors. Like if you can't play, you can't play it, dude. And okay. So it would be better if he just called him before the tournament is, Hey, I'm not going to be able to play this. Yeah, then they fill it. Should they, should they didn't take his fight? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What are they filling it with? I don't think they're filling it with exactly. I was going to say, Sam, the sheet guy down down the street. It's just mad. That's hilarious. Bagger Vance wants the spot. Him play. All right. You know, John Daley's just capable. I saw a clip of John Daley and is with no shoes on. Sink went from about 180 yards from the fairway a couple of weeks ago. And all the people that love it. I saw a tweet. A tweet DM. Golf could use some more characters like John Daley, frankly, watching the, the thrilling Billy Horschel with his hat backwards. And why does that bother you? It doesn't. But they're bored. I'm sure it bothered somebody. There is some stupid golf guy out there like he's just respecting the game. I'm sure. And that was Chris, actually. It was not. He kept. He did that. He had his back backwards because the rain was coming off the front of his lip. No, I know. I know. He couldn't see. I know. I know. But those guys are boring. John Daley is live a little anything. All right. Here we go to the Braves pitcher. Can't wait to get to Tony here. There's a pitcher named Francisco V. C. also in the brave system who has thrown three innings of professional baseball in those three innings. Tell us what level please rookie league. Okay, thank you. In those three innings, he has recorded 28 walks, 35 wild pitches, four hit by pitches, 20 earned runs, and three fielding errors in three chances. I've seen the video of this too. It's like me out there like throwing. No, if you don't know, it is not like you out there. Well, Chris has to go first on this one. Just I don't even know what to ask. Just ask what you were going to ask me. How would someone this bad even get on the team? I think a better question is what stupid manager is leaving him in the game for his they're not leaving him in the game. Chris, he's he's literally throwing three innings and walked. Can't get out. Wait, how many is he walked 28? That means nine walks per game. So somebody's leaving him in there for eight walks or not. They're letting him work it out. They're letting him work it out. I don't get this. So I'm going to just I'm going to pass the Tony. All right, Tony, I don't get it. Yeah, you guys should be ashamed of yourself. This is a young man that probably is what I guess in rookie ball. He's probably like 18. You might even be younger than that. And you know, the rookie ball, I promise you is not necessarily. Well, let me scrape. He's looking at that. But he's 19. He's 19 years old. Probably has played no organized baseball at all. That's my guess. Watching him throw. And this is how guys learn. I know, you know, it's it's it looks really bad right now. But you'd be surprised in a year from now. You've seen guys who look that bad turn into something completely different. And so, you know, I know we're watching it. And it looks crazy when he's throwing baseballs behind. He's right handed pitchers throwing it behind right handed batters like a pretty consistently. But just remember, it's rookie ball. Like this is where like the the lowest level guys started. And most of the time, like your picks, they ain't seeing rookie ball. They get they're going right to like a ball double a like they're not this is for like the guys who are extremely raw baseball one on one. I wouldn't say it's baseball one on one. But in his case, we don't even know like maybe this is his first time pitching. Maybe he hasn't. That's where a lot of these guys will go. Like when Kenley started pitching, he didn't they didn't send him down to like double a to learn. They sent them down to the lower levels. And then he kind of had to figure it out. Now, clearly, my man doesn't have a good feel for throwing the baseball based on the numbers. But I'm just saying, well, it would it wouldn't surprise me if a year from now, he looks completely different. Well, you know, this is the problem with the internet is it is the problem with the internet. I've been typing his name just hundreds of articles are coming up with. Look at this pitch and here's 35 wild pitches and three innings. Here's my recommendation. What rookie league team is he on? DSL Braves. Who DSL Braves? DSL Braves. I think he's using a spot that could go better to somebody like say John Daley. This is not even the same argument. Not even the same argument. And I mean, the Braves, two of all organizations, like they don't just pretty crazy. I mean, I trust me, I have, I remember my first time playing pro ball. It was against the Yankees. It was against their a ball team and had some dude who was throwing like a billion and had no clue where it was going. Now he wasn't 20 walks in. What was it? 35 little pitches. He walks in three innings. He wasn't that bad. But I've seen guys bad and all of a sudden you see them months later, they look a lot different. So hopefully it goes that way. I could honestly get behind him going to rookie ball and learning how to pitch. I just think if he's got on his eighth walk of the inning, maybe we should have got him out of there and you know, put him back in a bullpen and work on the sidewalk was the problem. Three appearances, 28 walks. That's crazy. That's the other thing. We just dividing numbers. Like he could have got a boatload of those in his first and it could have like gradually gotten better over the three three outing. I don't know what his stat lines look like. You got that. I'm going to try to be tough. It's going to be tough to find a DSL Braves game log. All right. Well, in 2023, he had an ERA of 351. He appeared in three games, only recorded one out in his three games that he played last year. This year, he's pitched two and two thirds and he has an ERA of 23 points. So he's getting better. He's getting better. He's getting a lot better. Could he get worse? His his the batting average against is pretty it is pretty is pretty okay. Yeah, because nobody's swaying the bat. Exactly course. Of course. Yeah, I don't I don't see his game log. So well, good luck to the young man. I hope he figures it out. You know, Tony, that's a really nice thing you did because there are a lot of people crushing this guy and you just kind of explained. He knew because the reality is you guys don't know. I mean, I would I don't expect you to to know that. But yeah, it's just especially the way social media is is it is a rain it is made now for a guy like that to look like he doesn't belong where he is right now because of you know, how they put that kind of stuff though. Yeah, I mean, I mean, all right, I'm starting to come around. I mean, after all, you and I kind of brought Scrabby along slowly. Oh my God. Now, look where he is. Was I was I I can't remember his name. There is no screaming as a play weather report to explain to you where you've come from. That is total. Before you do that, that is a great, great comparison, right? Could could could anybody whoever who has been listened to our show as long as they have had said, oh, Scrabby would be able to host an hour of radio when we first started. Everybody would have said that Scrabby said, I can't wait to tune in to see what he messes up tonight. Don't don't play your weather report. Play the time we threw to you for a quick advertisement and you jumped into the mic and you said, oh, what's up, Scrabby. I love total divas. That was that was what's up, Scrabby. What's up, Scrabby? You didn't know what to do after that. That was like six wild pictures. Here it is. Here it is. What's up, Scrabby? So it's like when I do the SD fat loss, I say everybody is screaming here for SD fat loss. What's going on? What's up, Scrabby? Not like, what's up, everyone? Oh, that was a fun day at the office. Everybody asking me, what's up, Scrabby? Come a long way. Come a long way. Like I said, there's hope for the sky. I'm Francisco Vcoso. Is that what you're saying? 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Hi, Chris Phillips, only going junior Mr. Scrabie. Going in Chris, 97-3, the fan till 6 o'clock, then the Scrabie Chronicles take over an hour of real craziness. You think this show is crazy. What do you don't have Tony and Tony and I here to keep him under wraps? Well, we got a story about Mars in tonight's show. Mars. Yes. Exactly. That's what we're talking about. We got a story about Brock Purdy. Exactly. We got a story about Jordan Love. I think I'd rather hear about Mars. Well, then you have to listen to the Scrabie show. By the way, we talked about the men's Olympic team, Summer League, basketball, Olympic team struggling to defeat was at South Sudan the other day. And again, today, a four point win over Germany. But how about the women's basketball Olympic team losing to the WNBA All-Stars? I thought that was kind of interesting the other night. I actually love that. Yeah, Caitlyn Clark had a good game, Angel Reese had a good game, but it was really our girl, Ogoubin Walli, from the Dallas team. These are 34 points all in the second half, Tony. She had eight threes in the second half. Ogoubin Walli was lining it up. She got called out by her head coach, Shira Miller at halftime and then decided to put on the show. She did a hell of a job and... Go ahead. I think it's great for their league. And here's why. Since the inception of us, women have dominated the Olympics for a very, very long time. Women's basketball has. And that was a team that I think in women's sports, nobody figured could ever be beat or would ever be beat. And the fact that the WNBA All-Stars are beat, and I think it speaks to the depth of that league that they can remove all of those players, all of the very best players. I don't think there's any argument out of that league and then face up against the best of the WNBA, and could still lose. I think that's good for their league in this case. It's great for the WNBA. I mean, the depth of the league is beyond where it's ever been. And again, you got to thank Clark, you got to thank Angel Reese, but a good Ben Wallie is another example of what they have. People don't know about her, but she's the second leading scorer in the league. So she didn't just come out and have one good game. She's been having good games all year. And it's her second time she's been in the running for the Olympic team and been bypassed. And she was very quick to point that out after this performance the other day and say, wait a minute, man, you shouldn't have forgot about me. I think she removed herself this past time because she saw the writing on the wall right coming. And so yeah, I mean, they definitely she definitely was on a mission. The fact that she got that hold the second half too was even more. It was a hot streak. Just like the ones you see, you know, some of these guys go on in the NBA. I mean, she was knocking in shot after shot. It was fun to watch. So I like the I like. Is it is it is it Ryan? Is it Ruko? Oh, the broadcaster the broadcast. He's got he's got his little call. Like, bream's bang. Oh, yeah. He's got he got he has his own. I think he says you bet. He says you bet. You get a lot the other night for a good. I like his call. WNBA men lighten it up. It was fun. But the women's Olympic team starts this weekend too. All right, Scrabby, you have two minutes left for the whole segment that you're going to do here. That's okay. That's okay. It's probably not going to do it. You're going to do it anyway. We're going to start it. Okay, start it. Because now I would have been trying to find the right mix for this whole segment. Fair or foul. And originally it was Padre's tweets, then I moved to other things. Now I'm just going to open it up to any sort of comment that I find because I was not finding the kind of the things that I needed. But here we go. The first one comes from talking yanks. The the is no pinstripe alley. It's the blog that every team has one. I think it's like a fan sided blog or whatever. So they wrote here is the title. Aaron Boone's excuse for DJ LaMaihu shows why Yankees will never be serious. And the reason they're saying this because the Yankees refused to remove the DJ LaMaihu from the line up while he's batting 177. He has a 471 OPS. He has 36 OPS plus no home runs and 39 games. He has just three extra base hits and only 11 RBIs. And according to the article, even his defense has been affected. But if you ask manager Aaron Boone, it seems none of that matters. Aaron Boone said DJ LaMaihu has earned the right to play, referencing him being a two time batting champion. He still believes he has a great track. He can be great and they can unlock it. So Chris, fair foul Aaron Boone's excuse for DJ may LaMaihu shows why Yankees will never be serious. That's ridiculous. Fair. Aaron, you said is Aaron Boone's comments fair? No, the title that I read is it's not even it's beyond foul. Really? Yeah, Aaron Boone's talking about, as he said, a guy that's won a couple of batting champions. And the notion that the Yankees are what they're not trying? They don't care there. I mean, you're talking about Aaron Boone, the guy that would punch his brother in the face. No, no, basically he might do that. Honestly, basically what they're saying is DJ LaMaihu got a huge contract. They're not willing to move on from their bad decision. How many of bats has he had this year? He was hurt, right? The whole 129. He's played 39 games. Yeah, 124 at bats in a 6,000 at bat career is a pretty small sample size. And I'm looking at Aaron at DJ LaMaihu here, 290 career hitter. I'm gonna give him a little more time, probably at the end of the season being as the Yankees are doing just fine with him or without him. Give him a chance to settle back in. He's 35. So I'm not expecting him to be. But the Yankees have a better alternative by the way. I'm not a Yankees expert. I don't think so. He's got one in each league. There's not Tony's dad never even won a batting title in each league. That's true. So fair foul, Tony. This, this, the Yankees will never get better because of their thought process. That's foul. That's ridiculous. I think that by Chris said DJ LaMaihu should be allowed to kind of let this breathe a little bit. The Yankees aren't hurting. They're welling playoff contention at this point. And as he said, I don't know if they have a better alternative. So yeah, I think this, the way you asked the question to me, it's a foul. Okay. Next one is actually a situation, a TV situation. The brickyard 400 was yesterday and it was a pretty good overtime conclusion if you guys didn't see. I did. I did see the end of this. But the race went into, the race went into overtime. The finish though of the overtime was moved from NBC to the USA network due to NBC's local Phillips needing to cover cool breaking news that took place earlier today. Referring to President Joe Biden's announcement that he will not be seeking a second tournament office. People are very upset with this. That the conclusion of the brickyard 400 was moved from NBC to USA. So basically, yes, that's it. Tony Fairfell for them to move the event from NBC to USA in overtime because of breaking news. Now I will admit, I don't have a care for the brickyard 500. So maybe 400. 400. So they could even stream the brickyard 400 and I wouldn't be upset. I know that. I think it's a listen, if the contracts say they had to get back to doing what they were doing, breaking. I don't think there's any contract. I think that's an editorial decision, a program decision. They will listen. The editorial decision, you know, I think it's what I think it's it's probably news when the president decides he's not gonna run for a second term. So I think the brickyard 400 they can they they can go with the who is the who is other people mad earlier, we've talked about somebody else was mad. Oh, the contingent of golfing people. Oh, yeah, the contingents of doing the John Day, they can they can sit with those folks and be mad together. Chris is John Daly. Joke that he made earlier about what I forget now is a huge hit on the chat. Let me tell you, they're loving that joke, Chris. Fair foul for this. If they can show OJ Simpson driving along in a Bronco for four hours during the final, they can certainly make an announcement that the president of the United States is stepping out of the race. Sorry, brickyard people. No, I get it. I mean, this is a huge breaking news story. I do find it a little strange, though, that strange scrape the race is almost over. Why don't you just skip it. Maybe they could have just asked the president to hold off on this announcement for five or 10 minutes while the race ended. I may have made a joke right there, but I'm not I'm not willing to do that at this point in time. Last one, Rory McElroy. After he was cut from the open, he got on a plane and he went with his family to a vacation. I don't know where. But here's what he said. And I want you to say Fair foul, Chris. They were asking him about his recent divorce that turned out not to be a divorce. They are going to reconcile. He said, there have been rumors about my personal life recently, which is unfortunate. Responding to each rumor is a fool's game. Fair or foul is responding to each rumor of fool's game, Chris. Yes. I don't know what fair you're saying. It's fair. Rory's being fair. Okay. Speaking of truth. Thank you, Rory for finally rising up there, buddy. Yes, it's his fair. Don't address every single rumor, buddy, which is something he's kind of been in the habit of doing over the years. He kind of he kind of does this. He kind of has that. So maybe he's learning. This is growth. I like it. Yeah, that's the reason I put it in there is because I thought it would be the only fair one we've done in the fair foul segment in total. Maybe now his experience will allow him to stay after he, you know, loses a close major. By the way, Rory McElroy was only about two and a half, two or three shots ahead of John Daly at the end of the first round. Should they let Rory McElroy still compete in the Open Championship? Yes, he's a former winner. Okay, good. Because he finished second at the US Open. You're starting to figure it out. That's right. All right, that's it. Very good. Back, we got one final. And who knows what direction that'll go. I think it's Greg Cameron out. He could go in that direction. Cool. Come back to find out. All right, wrapping things up here. Happy hour, Chris Sullen, Tony Goode Jr. in Washington, D.C., where the big news tomorrow will be the Padres taking on the Nationals. Come on, where are our priorities, people? Potters and Nash getting away at about 340. Tomorrow afternoon, that means our program will be over at 240 tomorrow. So make sure you're on time for the show two o'clock. Tomorrow gets ready for the first of the three games set. Padres took two or three from Cleveland. I don't know if we talked enough about that today. You know, we got into it, but it might kind of a big deal out of that. You know, going to the weekend, I thought that the Guardians had only lost. They know they hadn't lost this year. I thought the same thing. So I tweeted that and I felt really stupid. Yeah, I heard that stat somewhere and I didn't double check it. You weren't the only one who said that. Yeah. So somebody just had it wrong. But no, they lost one of the Yankees earlier this year, but this was only the second that they lost at home all year. So pretty good. The Guardians have been at home and the Potters are able to knock them off. So good on the Padres. Let's see if they can back it up in D.C. But we talked some football earlier with Greg Camarillo. The NFL season is less than 10 days from the spring training opener. Let's find out a little bit more about what's coming up in football this fall. First though, we check traffic. Let's start with the at the top of football and we'll work our way down. The Chiefs have now won two Super Bowls in a row. Nobody's ever won three in a row. Do you think the Chiefs winning again would be a great thing for football or is it time for them to get knocked off their perch? And if they get knocked off their perch, give me a couple of teams you think could legitimately pull it off other than the 49ers because we know that they are the gold standard when it comes to football this era, much like the Patriots were over the past era. I don't think it's good for any sport and any team to win three consecutive championships because it's farmed to see change. Much like we saw you call men's basketball this last year to dominate two years in a row. It's not as much fun as watching a new team come and at least put up a fight or win a championship. So I will be for somebody else to come win that championship and that's nothing against the Chiefs. They're amazing. They're great. But it's more fun when we get to see things change up and that's what the NFL has going. It's a league where most teams have a shot. I think that's what makes it fun to watch. Apparently, Greg doesn't like dynasties and so he wants it to be broken up immediately, which sounds a little bit of a hater, but it's okay as we move on. He had to face Brady for most of his career. So I think that's where it comes from. I guess I guess I could understand that. Greg, I want to ask you a little bit about the Bears and Kayla Williams. What do you think of the roster that he's inheriting at least offensively? I know he's got some weapons there on the outside. Does he have a chance to thrive in his rookie season? The short answer is yes. I have not had much of a chance to actually watch Bears football in the last few years or pay much attention to their off-season because they have been abysmal. I thought Justin Fields had talent. I thought that he was someone that could turn into a franchise quarterback. In Shaw, he would demonstrate sparks of that. But ultimately, the quarterback's that's where careers have gone to die this past decade is that it's just it's not been set up for success. And when you're picking first, it means because your team has not been good, but Kayla Williams is that guy and getting to watch him at FC. And the confidence he plays with, the maturity, the poise, like this is as a pro quarterback ready to play. As you mentioned, I want to stand for it as Andrew Luck in getting to watch him play in college. You can just see the difference between a guy that's good at college football and a guy that's ready for the pros. And that is Kayla Williams. It is just maturity and ability to be in the pocket and make the right play. And so I think he does have a chance for success. Well, it happened right away, probably not. But over his time in Chicago, he is that guy that can turn things around there. Talking about the quarterback position, Greg Camarillo is with us. And I just want to go back to the Chiefs for a half a second because it seems like the only really advantage that the Chiefs have over everybody is Patrick Mahomes. And I'm just, it doesn't seem right to me, but in a lot of ways it does because we saw what Brady did and all the other quarterbacks before and after. But why is it that in football, which is really the ultimate team game, 22 guys have to be working in concert out there, that that one position, the fact that the Chiefs have an edge there is why they have an edge everywhere. Absolutely. And it relates to the coaching much like Mahomes and Brady. They both had their coaches that are next level coaches that can take them there. But you can't discount the value of Travis Kelsey. And I'm not saying he is the sole reason they are winning championship. But I got a chance to broadcast UCLA's spring game this year. And UCLA's new offensive coordinators, Eric, the enemy who spent a lot of time in Kansas City. So I was talking to him like how does he teach the college guys that pro offense? And he said, we will watch a lot of films. So we'll watch how we did it in practice. And then we'll watch the Chiefs to see and show how it's supposed to be done. But I don't want my guys watching Travis Kelsey because he just makes things up. And so it's that combination of Mahomes being an elite quarterback and Travis Kelsey just being able to freestyle things in that chemistry between them, much like Gronk and Brady, where even if a play broke down, they'll figure it out. So it's really that having the coach, having that quarterback, but then having guys like Gronk, having guys like Kelsey that can go off script and just make amazing things happen. And you put all that together. And that's that's the magic sauce right there. That's what gets you a ring. Greg Amarillo joins us here on Gwen and Chris. And Greg, one of the things that came out, I don't know if John Harbaugh said it yesterday or today, but he talked about Lamar Jackson. The plan is for him to end up being the greatest quarterback to ever do it. Now he's obviously took some flak because he has struggled quite frankly in the postseason. I mean, does he have a chance this year with the additions of Derrick Henry in that backfield? What are you, what is it going to have to, what are you going to have to see for from him in order for him to get over the hump in terms of getting this kind of playoff issue behind him? Yeah, I mean, he's, I don't think he'll ever be the most the greatest quarterback of all time. He's one of the greatest to watch, one of the most fun to watch, definitely has the most skill set as the quarterback as far as doing different things. Getting over that hump, it's so hard in the NFL to win a Super Bowl. You look at guys like Derrick Marino, who were one of the most epic pastors in the world that never had a championship ring because it takes so much more around you. And it also takes some luck. You think of the times where Brady came back 28-3. There was some luck involved. Kansas City in their playoff game with 16 seconds left getting the kickoff and going and getting the field goal. Like there's a little component of luck that goes beyond just the talent. Lamar Jackson has all the talent. He's heading in the right direction. They're putting those pieces around him. But sometimes it just takes that little bit of luck to get you that championship ring. And you know, that's what Lamar seems to be missing is that, and not just for him, the team around him to get him to go to the next step. Kirk Amarillo's with us, of course. So one of the things that is exciting about the beginning of any season, whether it's baseball, football, whatever, new faces and new places. And, you know, in the NFL, it's going to take a while for everybody to catch up on who's, you know, running back where some of the quarterbacks have moved around. Obviously wide receivers signed free agent contracts. But I don't think there's a bigger name that is newcomer to the NFL this year than Jim Harbaugh. And he comes in to take over the Chargers and you look at Harbaugh. I mean, he's coming off, first of all, a national champion. But when he was coaching the 49ers, it was unreal how successful he was. And people think that a lot of people I've seen think that he's already like a top five coach in the NFL. Just coming back, he just lands that high. And people think he can do it with the Chargers, which I have to say, he's taking on a, you know, an amazing challenge because he's doing it with a franchise has never been able to get it done. What do you know about Jim? I mean, you know, USD connection, Stanford connection, whatever, but that makes him so great. Yeah. Well, first of all, let me go back to your, uh, your name game was trying to figure out who's on what team I was listening to you and Scravey try to challenge each other as the where these three agents went. And it made me crack open the NFL previews trying to figure out who's on what team because they just did a serious shuffle this offseason. Uh, Jim Harbaugh has proven destination after destination that he builds champion. He started that USD. I worked in the athletic department there. He totally turned that program into a championship program, uh, Stanford and now, and this is no knock them on the monitor, but well, it is a knock on one mile matter. If you could turn Stanford into a championship program, you have the magical Duke because the things he did there literally turned this, the struggling program into a, a team that could fight for a national championship. Um, and then he left and did it with the Niners. So, you know, for Scravey's probably the happiest about that. So he proved he could do it at all levels of college and then he did it in the pros. And then he did the exact same thing at Michigan. So this guy just has, uh, the blueprint for turning programs around. Now this is going to be probably his biggest talent, uh, challenge. And it is because they lack talent. The Chargers have Justin Herbert, who was an amazing quarterback. And then that's it. They've got rid of Keena now. And I got rid of Mike Williams. They just, they don't have elite talent surrounding Justin Herbert for him to immediately come and make an impact. But I'd be a fool to say he can't do it because we've seen him time and time again. Do it. It'll be fun to watch just how quickly he can do it. Uh, and then with what pieces, you know, who are the guys that we're, um, used to Austin Echler, we're used to, uh, Keenan Allen, who are going to be the guys that fill those spots. Uh, but if there's one guy that can do it, that's Coach Hardwell, for sure. No doubt about it. Uh, Greg, I gotta ask you since you brought the 49ers up and then Scraves Happiness, uh, Brandon Ayuk is, is unhappy right now with the 49ers in the contract negotiation. And you know, I was listening to, I've heard this, this kind of speak prior to listening to Scraven and, and, and Chris talk about it, that Brandon Ayuk is, is not an important piece to that offense. Now you played the wide receiver position. Um, how important is Brandon Ayuk to that offense? He's huge. Uh, I think he's in one piece and I'm not saying he's the piece because they have George Kittle. They got Debo, Daniels, uh, Brock Purdy is the one delivering the ball, but Brandon Ayuk is one of the reasons that they went on such a run last year. Uh, and as a wide receiver to watch him and his ability to come across the middle and make huge plays is in huge to the game. You have to pay attention to Brandon Ayuk. And then that gets Debo Samuel open, that gets George Kittle open, that makes Brock Purdy's life easier. Uh, it's a, he's huge in their, in their success. Now, if he's $30 million a year huge, like he's asking, probably not. Um, but he is due to make $14 million. This is the last year of his rookie deal. And then they still have the ability to franchise tag him after that. So I personally don't think he's leaving. I have no problem with a man spending the offseason going into contract negotiations. Cause that's his time. You know, he's 26 years old. This is his prime chance to get money. Go ahead and get, you know, get that money, man, get that bag. But, um, I think he'll be a niner again. Hopefully they can find a way to, um, make some room in the salary platform. They're fine this year coming up, but in future years, they've got some issues with the salary cap. And, you know, they, they found, uh, Mr. irrelevant Brock Purdy in a franchise quarterback who's making pennies to everyone else's dollars, pennies everyone else's millions of dollars. Um, so they got to capitalize now. They, you know, they got to pay him at some point. Yep. Yep. So they, they got to go for it now. And if there's a way to get Brandon Ayuk, uh, happy and get him money and get him out on my field. He is definitely needed for a championship run. Greg, we got a couple of minutes left. I want to use all the minutes. Scrabies rolling his eyes. I mean, I go, hey, Chris, we only got one minute until we're out. And he's like, Oh, so what I wanted to do is thank you for coming on. Oh, come on. I know there's a question at this point as he moves up and talks to next week. There you go. Ask your question. Ask your question. I got nothing for you. Ask your question. Keep talking angers. Scrabie. How about that? All right. In as many words as you can. No, from 2006 to 12 when you played 12 years now, how has the National Football League possibly gotten more popular than when you were there? Because it was huge then, but it seems like it's bigger than ever now. Taylor Swift. No, just kidding. That's the difference. Uh, gambling was not embraced when I was playing. And now that is such a huge component of the game for everyone to be able to, well, most people, depending on your state, to be able to gamble on the game. It's gotten so popular that even some NFL players are gambling on their own game. So that is a huge component of the game. And it's helped bring in money. It's helped bring in visibility. It's helped getting guys like Brandon and I use these bigger contracts. Well done, Greg. We got to go right now. Can't even say goodbye because Scrabie is getting the steam coming out of his ears. Thanks, Greg. We appreciate it as always. Good catching up to you. Put the steam back in your ear, Scrabie. You got another show to do. I love how Tony's just laughing the entire time. He loves it. Oh, this is great. You're mad. You were mad a lot today. I missed any part of Scrabie being mad. You can catch any part of the show. 97 through the fan.com or, of course, Odyssey app coming up next. Scrabie Chronicles. Can't imagine where those are going to go tonight. Matt Scrabie from six to seven. 420 going junior in DC. Chris Ello here. Don't forget to be on time tomorrow. Two o'clock short show ahead of Bodre's baseball. Right here. It'll be on 97 through the fan. Got top. Let's start with the at the top of football and we'll work our way down. The Chiefs have now won two Super Bowls in a row. Nobody's ever won three in a row. Do you think the Chiefs winning again would be a great thing for football? Or is it time for them to get knocked off their perch? And if they get knocked off their perch, give me a couple of teams you think could legitimately pull it off other than the 49ers because we know that they did. Yeah. I mean, the Chiefs are the gold standard when it comes to football, this era, much like the Patriots were of the past era. I don't think it's good for any sport and any team to win three consecutive championships because it's farmed to see change. Much like we saw you call men's basketball this last year to dominate two years in a row. It's not as much fun as watching a new team come and at least put up a fight or win a championship. So I will be for somebody else to come win that championship and that's nothing against the Chiefs. They're amazing. They're great, but it's more fun when we get to see things change up and that's what the NFL have going is this a league where most teams have a shot. I think that's what makes it fun to watch. Apparently, Greg doesn't like dynasties and so he wants it to be broken up, immediately, which sounds a little bit of a hater, but it's okay as we move on. He had to face Brady for most of his career. So I think that's where it comes from. I guess I guess I could understand that. Greg, I want to ask you a little bit about the Bears and Caleb Williams. What do you think of the roster that he's inheriting at least offensively? I know he's got some weapons there on the outside. Can he have, does he have a chance to thrive in his rookie season? The short answer is yes. I have not had much of a chance to actually watch Bears football in the last few years or pay much attention to their offseason because they have been abysmal. I thought Justin Fields had talent. I thought that he was someone that could turn into a franchise quarterback. In Josh, he would demonstrate sparks of that. But ultimately, the quarterback, that's where careers have gone to die this past decade, is not been set up for success. And when you're picking first, it means because your team has not been good, but Caleb Williams is that guy, and getting to watch him at FC. And the confidence he plays with, the maturity, the poise, like this is as a pro quarterback, ready to play. As you mentioned, I want to stand for it as Andrew Luck. And I got getting to watch him play in college. You could just see the difference between a guy that's good at college football and a guy that's ready for the pros. And that is Caleb Williams. It is just maturity and ability to be in the pocket and make the right play. And so I think he does have a chance for success. Well, it happened right away, probably not. But over his time in Chicago, he is that guy that can turn things around there. Talking about the quarterback position, Greg Camarillo is with us. And I just want to go back to the Chiefs for a half a second, because it seems like the only really advantage that the Chiefs have over everybody is Patrick Mahomes. And I'm just, it doesn't seem right to me, but in a lot of ways it does, because we saw what Brady did and all the other quarterbacks before and after. But why is it that in football, which is really the ultimate team game, 22 guys have to be working in concert out there, that that one position, the fact that the Chiefs have an edge there is why they have an edge everywhere. Absolutely. And it relates to the coaching. Much like Mahomes and Brady, they both had their coaches that are next level coaches that can take them there. But you can't discount the value of Travis Kelsey. And I'm not saying he is the sole reason they are winning championship. But I got a chance to broadcast UCLA's spring game this year. And UCLA's new offensive coordinators, Eric, the enemy who spent a lot of time in Kansas City. And so it's talking to him, like, how does he teach the college guys that pro offense? And he said, we will watch a lot of films. So we'll watch how we did it in practice. And then we'll watch the Chiefs to see and show how it's supposed to be done. But I don't want my guys watching Travis Kelsey, because he just makes things up. And so it's that combination of Mahomes being an elite quarterback and Travis Kelsey just being able to freestyle things in that chemistry between them, much like Gronk and Brady, where even if a play broke down, they'll figure it out. So it's really that having the coach, having that quarterback, but then having guys like Gronk, having guys like Kelsey that can go off script and just make amazing things happen. And you put all that together. And that's that's the magic sauce right there. That's what gives you a ring. Greg Amarillo joins us here on Gwen and Chris. And Greg, one of the things that came out, I don't know if John Harbaugh said it yesterday or today, but he talked about Lamar Jackson. The plan is for him to end up being the greatest quarterback to ever do it. Now, he's obviously took some flak because he has struggled quite frankly in the postseason. I mean, does he have a chance this year with the additions of Derrick Henry in that backfield? What are you what is it going to have to what are you going to have to see for from him in order for him to get over the hump in terms of getting this kind of playoff issue behind him? Yeah, I mean, he's I don't think he'll ever be the most the greatest quarterback of all time. He's one of the greatest to watch one of the most fun to watch definitely has the most skill set as the quarterback, as far as doing different things. Getting over that homie is so hard in the NFL to to win a Super Bowl. You look at guys like Dan Marino, who were one of the most epic pastors in the world that never had a championship ring because it takes so much more around you. And it also takes some luck. You think of the times where Brady came back 28-3. There was some luck involved. Kansas City in their playoff game with 16 seconds left getting the kickoff and going and getting the field goal. Like there's a there's a little component of luck that goes beyond just the talent. Lamar Jackson has all the talent. He's heading in the right direction. They're putting those pieces around him. But sometimes it just takes that little bit of luck to get you that that championship ring. And you know, that's what the more seems to be missing is that and not just for him, the team around him to get him to go to the next step. Kirk Hammerios with us, of course. So one of the things that is exciting about the beginning of any season, whether it's baseball, football, whatever, new faces and new places. And you know, in the NFL, it's going to take a while for everybody to catch up on who's, you know, running back where some of the quarterbacks have moved around. Obviously, wide receivers signed free agent contracts, but I don't think there's a bigger name that is newcomer to the NFL this year than Jim Harbaugh. And he comes in to take over the chargers and you look at Harbaugh. I mean, he's coming off first of all a national champion. But when he was coaching the 49ers, it was unreal how successful he was. And people think that a lot of people I've seen think that he's already like a top five coach in the NFL, just coming back. He just lands that high. And people think he can do it with the chargers, which I have to say, he's taking on a, you know, an amazing challenge because he's doing it with the franchise has never been able to get it done. What do you know about Jim? I mean, you know, USD connection, Stanford connection, whatever, but that makes him so great. Yeah. Well, first of all, let me go back to your name game was kind of figure out who's on what team I was listening to you and Scravey try to challenge each other as the where the free agents went. And it made me crack open the NFL previews, try to figure out who's on what team because it is a serious shuffle this offseason. Jim Harbaugh has proven destination after destination that he builds champion. He started that USD. I worked in the athletic department there. He totally turned that program into a championship program. Stanford and now and this is no knock to mama mater, but well, it is a knock to mama matter. If you could turn Stanford into a championship program, you have the magical juice because the things he did there literally turned this the struggling program into a team that could fight for a national championship. And then he left and did it with the Niners. So, you know, Scravey's probably the happiest about that. So he proved he could do it at all levels of college and then he did it in the pros and then he did the exact same thing at Michigan. So this guy just has the blueprint for turning programs around. Now, this is going to be probably his biggest talent challenge. And it is because they lack talent. The Chargers have Justin Herbert, who was an amazing quarterback. And then that's it. They've got rid of Keenan Allen. I got rid of my Williams. They just don't have elite talent surrounding Justin Herbert for him to immediately come and make an impact. But I'd be a fool to say he can't do it because we've seen him time and time again do it. It'll be fun to watch just how quickly he can do it. And then with what pieces, you know, who are the guys that we're used to Austin Echler, we're used to Keenan Allen, who are going to be the guys that fill those spots. But if there's one guy that can do it, that's Coach Hardwell, for sure. No doubt about it. Greg, I got to ask you since you brought the 49ers up in Scraves' happiness, Brandon Iuk is unhappy right now with the 49ers in the contract negotiation. And, you know, I was listening to, I've heard this kind of speak prior to listening to Scraves and Chris talk about it, that Brandon Iuk is not an important piece to that offense. Now, you played the wide receiver position. How important is Brandon Iuk to that offense? He's huge. I mean, he's in one piece and I'm not saying he's the piece because they have George Kittle, they got debos, Daniels, Brock Purdy is the one delivering the ball. But Brandon Iuk is one of the reasons that they went on such a run last year. And as a wide receiver to watch him, his ability to come across the middle and make huge plays is huge to the game. You have to pay attention to Brandon Iuk. And then that gets debos Samuel open, that gets George Kittle open, that makes Brock Purdy's life easier. It's a huge in their success. Now, it's $30 million a year huge, like he's asking, probably not. But he is due to make $14 million. This is the last year of his rookie deal. And then they still have the ability to franchise tag him after that. So I personally don't think he's leaving. I have no problem with a man spending the offseason going into contract negotiations because that's his time. He's 26 years old. This is his prime chance to get money. Go ahead and get that money, man. Get that bag. But I think he'll be a niner again. Hopefully they can find a way to make some room in the salary cap for him. They're fine this year coming up. But in future years, they've got some issues with the salary cap. And, you know, they they found Mr. A relevant Brock Purdy in a franchise quarterback who's making pennies to everyone else's dollars. Penny said one of the millions of dollars. So they got to capitalize now. They, you know, if they got to pay him at some point. Yep. Yep. So they got to go for it now. And if there's a way to get Brandon Iuk happy and get him money and get him out on that field, he is definitely needed for a championship friend. Greg, we got a couple minutes left. I want to use all the minutes. Scrabies rolling his eyes. I mean, I go, hey, Chris, we only got one minute until we're out. And he's like, oh, so what I wanted to do is thank you for coming on. Oh, come on. I know there's a question at this point as he moves everything. Talk to next week. There you go. Ask your question, Chris. Ask your question. I got nothing for him. Ask your question. Just keep talking angry, Scrabie. How about that? All right. In as many words as you can. No, from 2006 to 12 when you played 12 years now, how has the National Football League possibly gotten more popular than when you were there? Because it was huge then, but it seems like it's bigger than ever now. Taylor Swift. No, just kidding. I'd say that. That's the difference gambling was not embraced when I was playing. And now that is such a huge component of the game, for everyone to be able to, well, most people, depending on your state, to be able to gamble on the game, you've gotten so popular that even some NFL players are gambling on their own agenda. So that is a huge component of the game. And it's helped bring in money. It's helped bring in visibility. It's helped getting guys like Brandon and I use these bigger contracts. Well done, Greg. We got to go right now. Can't even say goodbye. Because Scrabby is getting the steam coming out of his ears. Thanks, Greg. We appreciate it. As always, good catching up to you. Put the steam back in your ear, Scrabby. You've got another show to do. I love how Tony's just laughing the entire time. He loves it. Oh, this is great. You're mad. You were mad a lot today. I missed any part of Scrabby being mad. He can catch any part of the show. 97 through the fan.com or, of course, Odyssey app. Coming up next. Scrabby Chronicles. Oh, can't imagine where those are going to go tonight. Matt Scrabby from six to seven. 420 going junior in DC. Chris Ello here. Don't forget to be on time tomorrow. Two o'clock short show ahead of Badre's baseball. Right here. It'll be on 97 through the fan. Ta-ta. I do it while making coffee. I do it in the car. I do it when the kids are asleep. What are they all doing? 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