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7.22.24 Gwynn & Chris Hour 1: Padres take big series from the Guardians
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No truth to the Twitter rumors that he's there to announce that he's running for office. Canada see there's an opening apparently in the high level of government in the United States. Tony's gone to Washington, D.C. You're not running though. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. You're not going to do it. You're not going to feel the void. Nope. I will not be feeling any void. It's also I won't be running anywhere because it's raining outside. So it's a good thing they didn't have a game today because it would be definitely under delay right now. You know what's funny is that I was watching some coverage of everything that's going on in the nation's capital. And I did notice it was raining quite hard where the lady was broadcasting out in the streets there. So yes, no game today anyway. Hopefully the weather will clear. Potters will be able to get back at it tomorrow and wow is raining really hard. This is being cool here on the intercom empire. So we're sitting out there. What? That's for the people that are joining us from Washington D.C. right now. Yes. Anybody who happens to be listening to the show from Washington D.C. There's your weather report from our former weather boss Matt Scrabby. Padres start off this road trip. I mean, what else can we say? I mean, you know, they're the only team in Major League Baseball that has lost a series at home to the Rockies. They don't only lost that series at home to the Rockies. They got swept, but they are also now one of only two teams joining the Yankees who did it in April. They're one of only two teams that have won a road series in Cleveland. And as I said, Friday, Tony, maybe this is exactly what we should have expected from the Padres. Just when you think it's not looking too good, they make you happy again. Yeah, I think, you know, I think if you get caught up in the final score of the first game, Friday's game, then, yeah, I mean, but if you remember, it was a two-nothing game going into that eighth. And it imploded on, you know, really with Shilty not using any of his, you know, back-end guys. He was trying to get through that game, you know, behind and it blew up on him. And so outside of that, they came back the next day and I thought, you know, had a heck of a game, really the next two games. And they were able to capitalize on the opportunities they had yesterday, but they did enough to win because the pitching, Michael King, was phenomenal. I mean, when you didn't think it could get much better after watching Seast the day before, Michael King comes out and is just, I mean, having his way with pretty much that entire lineup. You know, the schedule works where, you know, they can move beyond the fifth starter at this point. You know, as they try to figure out what they want to do there. And so they'll be able to get through at least another time through the rotation, but that's a question that seemingly is going to have to be answered at some point. What does that look like? I don't think we know, but to start the series off and get that victory, that's a pretty, that's a good series victory against a really good, really good Guardians team. Yeah, Cleveland had the, that was impressive. Yeah, they had the best record at home in the American League. They had the best record overall in the American League. And if you watch the Cleveland the last two days, I just kept wondering how did they win a bunch of games? Well, evidently they won them because they weren't facing the likes of Dylan Cease and Michael King. And basically all those two guys did Tony was turn in historic pitching performances. And before you out there say, well, that's over overstating it a little bit. Well, let's see Dylan Cease allowed one hit. Michael King allowed two. The Padres allowed three hits over two games. The last time that happened and the only other time it happened in Padre history, your dad was playing right field and the 1984 team was heading to the World Series. So it has been 40 years since the Padres put together back to back starts like that. And if you include what Matt Waldron did on Friday night, I was just getting ready to say he can't leave Waldron out of that at all. Here is the pitching line for the Padres three starters this weekend. 20 innings, nine hits, two runs, two walks, and 21 strikeouts. That will get the job done. As a matter of fact, it maybe should have been good enough to sweep the series, but we'll go ahead and take the two out of three. And as you said, you don't need the fifth man right now, Vasquez pitches tomorrow night against the Nationals Tony, and then it's right back to these three guys on this road trip. And it was brilliant. So they completely shut down a team that had been feasting on everybody in the American League, especially everybody that came to Progressive Field. So it's just wonderful to see this Padres team, they continue to, I'm sorry, but the roller coaster every time it hits the bottom floor, it goes right back up. And I'm not surprised and I feel pretty good heading into Washington, D.C. And that's despite some of the news coming out about Joe Musgrove, Kevin A.C. tweeted out today that he said it'll be at least a month before Musgrove comes back. That's at least a month. Well, that takes us now with Musgrove at least till the end of August. August 22nd would be a month from now. I don't know if that can be preferenced that way, that it's bad news. I think it was going to be this way all along based on how he is progressing. I mean, he is not pitched in quite some time. So it wasn't like he got healthy and he was just going to be able to be back in a rotation. There's going to have to be a complete build up, you know, as you go. And I think that was always going to be the case. So, I mean, maybe the timeline may feel shocking, but I don't know that we can call it bad news. I think bad news would have been that he had some type of regression or he can't, he won't be making it back. I think once he has decided to take his time to come back, I think it was always going to be around that time. Yeah, I don't know why. For whatever reason, I thought August meant hopefully a little bit earlier August. And so that's why I said that. The end of August is the 22nd would be a month and that's if he came back in exactly a month. So I think basically what that tweet told me is that, you know, maybe we shouldn't really expect it until the beginning of September. We certainly don't know about Darvish if at all. And I think it's becoming more clear that regardless of what the Padres do here the next three days in Washington and what they do on the weekend in Baltimore. And even what they do when they get home, AJ Preller is going to have to be very fast at work and try to find another starting picture for this rotation. They're going to have to have a fifth guy, you know, and it's so weird to me. The Dodgers about an hour ago just flat out released James Paxton, who's eight and two. Now, Grant, she was ERA is a little high. It's 4.43 as whip is up there. He hasn't exactly been dominant, but he did have a record of eight and two and he made every start for the Dodgers. He didn't miss any turns in the rotation. I don't know that that's the answer. What I'm saying is teams are kind of, for whatever reason, Ty France was released today by the Mariners. We saw the Phillies released with Maryfield last week. He got picked up today by the Braves who are really in trouble now that Aussie albies is on the injured list. There seems to be a lot without there being any trades is what I'm getting at. Maybe the Padres can solve their problems without having to part with anybody. Who knows? Yeah, it's a possibility, especially with AJ, you know, he's pretty creative when it comes to these type of things. I mean, given that the Padres are skipping the fifth spot because it just hasn't, you know, gone well. You know, I don't think it was ready. It doesn't mean he won't be. It just wasn't ready right now. And, you know, so they are coming up with creative ways to man the rotation, but eventually the off days won't line up and you're going to have to have a fifth guy. I don't know. Paxton is the answer on that. But when you consider the options, you know, maybe burrito is built up by that by that time. Maybe it's done well enough to have an opportunity. I think he was scratched recently. So I got to look into that a little bit. Oh, the quarter start down in the minors. Let me go. I mean, maybe maybe then he maybe he's I mean, hopefully he's not scratched because he he was hurt. Hopefully he's scratched because that's the idea and that maybe they're going to give him an opportunity. But you're right. At some point, you're going to have to probably come up with some type of idea. And I'm sure whether that's trade or burrito or, you know, the free agent market, whatever's out there. I'm sure something is going to be. Yeah, before we go get too giddy about James Paxton being available. First of all, let's be honest about it. The Dodgers are not exactly loaded with starting pitching. Now they should have glass now coming back. I think this week Kershaw is getting closer. But I don't think that they would have just released this guy if they thought he was worth a damn. I mean, honestly, the Dodgers don't have an overflow. And as you look closer at Paxton, he's eight and two, as I said, but the whip is 1.455. That's really not good. He's also walked more batters than anybody in the national league. He's walked 48 batters. He leads the league in that category. That isn't the kind of guy, you know, I'm dying to bring in. But his career numbers are much, much better than that. He's 72 and 40, 376 career ERA. Most of that though was built up five years ago or more. So anyway, that's the kind of picture that right now is out there. We'll see what happens. But I have information on Johnny burrito. Apparently it was just arm soreness. So arm soreness. That's OK, right? So we don't know. That sounded good. Is that a fugazian tree like Tyler Glass now's back injury? Oh, all of a sudden he's better now. It's back after the all-star break. Yeah, no, I don't know why they would do that in the mind. Scrabby is so happy that he ferreted out the fact that Tyler Glass now's injury was-- He used another word that is ferret. It makes me feel like I used to work your way in there and figure that figure. You think you figured that out. I don't know that you really did. Maybe he was really, really hurt. It could have been. You know, you don't know for sure. He feels so scummy when you say ferret. Yeah, wait. What is this about Glass now now? Well, when he first went on the injury list, Scrabby immediately piped in and said, this is just-- this is false. It's a fake injury. It's a fake injury. They had some time between-- And he said he's going to be right there again. They sat him out before the all-star game. Now he's ready to go right after the all-star game. So Scrabby, whether he's right or not, he thinks he's right. And let's just let him leave that. So he didn't really uncover anything. No, he didn't recover anything. He just thinks he's right. He just thinks he's right. And I don't really want to. I don't really want to. Maybe I am a ferritor, OK? Yeah. Maybe I want to tell him he's-- I don't want to tell him he might be wrong. He's feeling really good about himself. That's fair. Wait, you co-signed on this whole thing with me. You said, I think you're right, Scrabby. I think you're right. Yeah, I did. I did. But I only did that because he's on my fantasy baseball team and I was upset at the time that he would have the audacity to go on the injured list. Oh, I just lost all the albies. That's not great. I have a question about-- and I don't know. Maybe we need to find out from, like, contract people. But you, Darvish, is not being paid by the Padres. Does that come off of their total payroll? Like, do they have more money to spend now because his contract-- he's not being paid at the moment and he's not on the 40-man roster? Yeah, so that money that they would have had to pay him during this month, they don't have to pay. He's on the restrictive-- one of the-- was it a restrictive list, I believe it is? Yeah, the restrictive list. Right, so-- My question, basically, is-- Yes, non-pay. OK, so my question, basically, is if they know, for whatever reason that you, Darvish, is going to miss the rest of the year, could they take that money and put it back into someone or, you know, do a contract extension, or I don't know. I want to say yes, but that wouldn't be-- I don't know. I don't honestly know if that's against the mood. Sounds like a-- sounds like an interesting possibility, though, Scrabie, I'll give you that. OK, thank you. You know, maybe they could go out and sign somebody who's in control for the end of the year and pay them, you know, a little more money than they would have been able to do that. Or they could do, like, a Mike Clevenger where they signed him for his injured year plus his other year. Yeah, well, let's not do a Mike Clevenger. Well, I-- you just say-- Use a better example than that, but-- All right. Sorry, I'll ferret my way to a better example. I'm really upset about this ferret word you use. It just means digging and finding out something. I know. It's not a negative. You're taking it as a negative. As I do. Yes, you do. All right, show is underway. We've got a lot to get done. Padres, of course, get it done in Cleveland. We'll talk more about that. Looking ahead to the series against the Nationals, the Nationals say that it's all over. All of the bad feelings are done. Dave Martinez said in the paper today, he does not hold any grudges. He's moved well past the entire thing, the thing being the whole incident with Cabot Ruiz and Jerrickson Profar and Jesse Winkler and everybody else that was involved. Mackenzie Gore, I guess, would have to be involved in that too. We'll see if any of that resurfaces over the next three days, but either way, the Padres are there. They're getting ready to play the Nationals tomorrow in a three-game series. Then it's Baltimore before they come on to take on the Dodgers. On the program today, we will do plenty of baseball, of course, but also going to start turning our attentions to the National Football League. We are less than 10 days away from the Hall of Fame game opener, so it's right around the corner, people. Greg, go ahead. I got to get on our fantasy league and make sure everybody has their new keeper for the first time. You might just want to cancel. We got to make sure that Scrabie definitely has to finally get rid of Jamar Chase. I think we should just cancel the league because then I'm the last champion that works out. It's great. You know, that's just trophy. That's just like you to win something and then not have the guts to defend it. I'm defending in baseball right now. I'm third seed, Chris. Hey, Chris, you know, we can just kick him out of the league. I know Sam wants to do it. Oh, yeah, that's right. Sam really wants to join. Maybe we can kick Scrabie out and bring Sam in. That's like firing Marty Schottenheimer after a 14 and 2 season. You just can't do it. Yeah, they did, though. They did do it. They did do it. They did do it. Turn it. I walked myself into that one. And, you know, Tony is the commission. If he puts it up for a vote, I think your chances are kind of, you know, no better than 50/50 there. You might be in trouble there, champ. I think one of the yellow committee needs to step back a little bit. Not that they're there. Why don't they want the yellow committee? They're all beatable. All three of them. Except for your gods son. Except for my gods son Connor. He's pretty good. All right. We are underway. Great Camarillo will be on to talk some football. We have a Monday edition of the Fantabula Sports Game Show coming up a little later. Looking forward to that. What about all the regular stuff, Daily Gambit, Chris vs. the fans. Big five. Until six o'clock, Gwyn and Chris. Happy to be with you. 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Perc responsibly, you're imported by Crown Lake Port, Chicago, Illinois. Free from the App Store or Google Play, block out another research and supply major league baseball trade parts used with permission. 224 on the clock, Tony Glenn, Jr., Chris Sullough, Matthew Scravey, Zander Schoffley, Aztec for life wins another major this year. My man is, I mean, listen, prior to winning the first one, which was remind me against scrape. The PGA Championship like two months ago, yeah, it wasn't long ago. So, before winning the PGA Championship, the kind of talk was, you know, close but no cigar. Like he had been in contention on final days and, you know, I don't think he ever played bad. I just think he just happened to be in circumstances where dudes played really well down the stretch and he ended up losing. And so, to go from that being kind of the, what's the word, the narrative around who you are as a player, to now having two majors in the same, the same season, it's pretty remarkable. And yesterday, and I know Scravey, I said this to him during the break and he didn't really get the idea of what I was saying. I mean, basically, Zander, you know, took that lead and went and hit. Like, there, no one, he was in pretty much control for the majority of that round it felt like. The back nine, for sure. It was, it was an impressive performance. Let's go back to what you talked about and what the narrative is because you're right, Tony. This is a guy that, I don't think the narrative was as kind as you're even making it out to be that, you know, he was just in the wrong place and he lost some, you know, some tournaments. It was like this guy is almost bordering on a choker who's never going to win the major. He's never going to be able to win the big lead. He's always going to lead in the first or second round, but he's always going to disappear on Sunday. I think there were those that were, you know, that mean about it. And I thought it was interesting. After his round Saturday, which got him in the running, they did a little quick visit with the on course interview gal with Zander and she immediately said, well, now that you've won a major, do you feel like it's all behind you and now you're confident enough in order to win one? And he, you could tell he was like not thrilled with that question and, and that's a fair question. I don't think it is. And he didn't think it was a fair question either because he didn't like the fact that that was the narrative about him that he wasn't, he couldn't win the, couldn't win the big one. So he was mad at the person for asking the question. He wasn't mad. Okay. He wasn't mad. Okay. You can just tell that it wasn't his all time favorite and he, he answered it by saying, I don't know, that's kind of not really part of this anymore. I'm just in, in contention, I'm in good position to win this tournament. And I liked his answer because it showed me that he's put all that stuff behind him. He doesn't worry about, you know, whether he could win or whether he could ever win the big one or now that he's won the big one, he didn't feel like a big monkey was off his back. He just goes out and plays and that couldn't have been more, you know, evident than yesterday. First of all, Scrabby's told me this about Zander. He plays. Slow, slow, he's great, Scrab, I felt you there for a second, you didn't know where he was going. I said something in the break. I never want to be revealed. No, I didn't. But he plays slow. I told you something, I concerned immediately, Zander is, Zander is agonizing to watch play. You know what it is? Even if you speed up the DVR, it's like, come on. You know, he walks up to the ball, he walks back from the ball, he goes over the thing, he regrips like you said, but when it's time to hit, man, he is calm and he is cool and he is on point. And you know, he didn't bogey one hole yesterday and he, that's, that's, that's hard to do on that course. That's hard to do on that course. So to me, you know, throughout his career, he always has come off to me as consistent, like, that didn't necessarily mean he was like going to be in the top three or, you know, win the tournament. But I just always, when I, when I do get a chance to watch him play, he just seems like he's consistent. He doesn't have like these crazy, like, you know, he never shifts where he's, he's exactly that's a great way to put it. It didn't seem like he's ever in a slump, but so it's, it's pretty cool. You gotta be, you gotta be happy for a dude who've been on the knocking on the door for a little bit. And now he's basically kicked the door off the end. He's kicked it in. Yeah. Two championships. I never going to say anything negative about Shoffley again, nor, you know, should they maybe have said so much negative in the first place, but you're right, Tony's an Aztec. And for that, you know, you have to, sorry, I have a question. You didn't just stop. I was just saying I had, I had something, I was just wording you that before you go to break or something, I have something, but Xander Shoffley is no different than any golfer that came before him who hadn't won a major that had maybe choked away a few majors. Every golfer, the next is, it's the, when will he win his major? Is he going to win his major? This is not one. Yeah, because tigers started out winning majors. The biggest one I can think of is Phil Mickelson. Yeah, Mickelson was that guy for, you know, a long time. And then that's the, is that way younger though at this point, right? Yeah. Yeah. Then Mickelson for sure. Yeah. Way younger. Well, it was a glorious day for the Aztecs, if you're an Aztec. I mean, for Xander to win this, this is fantastic. I think he's, you know, the question that I have is, I mean, because the Mount Rushmore of San Diego state athletes is pretty chiseled in stone. I mean, there's Marshall Fock, right? There's Kawhi Leonard and there's your dad, Tony. Yeah. Not your dad. Scrabby, but Tony's dead. My dad's upset about that. Yeah. I know he is. Those three are pretty much chiseled in there. I don't think you could ever remove any of them. The fourth guy in my mind has always been a fourth athlete and there's some others who would certainly be in contention, but I always thought Steven Strasburg, because of what he accomplished. But with two majors in two months, Xander Shoutfley is now, you know, maybe getting us to rethink that. We'll see where it all goes, but I don't know what you think, Tom. Well, how long has Xander been a pro? Oh, I saw him when he won the tour channel, they had over 10 years now. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. He said a very good thing. The guys, the guy was in the top five before he won these two tournaments. Yeah, he was, you know, so he was already solidified is really good. He didn't come out of nowhere to win this stuff. No, but I think of World Series MVP in a World Series victory. Yeah. Steven Schrupp, if he wins a third major and a four, if he wins a fourth major, I think that's what that's, that's what I was, that's where I was getting at with, with really like, how long has he been? Because I think we always are in a rush to do these. Yes, we are. But we got to let his career play out, I mean, if this dude ends up with like five, six majors or something, yeah, he can play that long and play that type of, of, of golf, like we are just, I think it doesn't deserve us to have this conversation. Yeah. This early, considering how young he is, yeah, shouldn't have blown up Steven Schrupp's face. I'm not rush more. I didn't blow it up. I said that we might be getting the chisels out. That's all I'm saying. But, uh, congrats to Xander Schauffley, it was also a great day for United States golf. Scraven, I don't know if you're in on this, but this year, an American won all four majors. Mm. It's the first time in 42 years that that has happened. Wow. USA. USA. 1982, Tom Watson won two. Okay. Raymond Floyd. Okay. And the fourth one that year was won by a San Diego as well. Ooh. Craig Stadler. The walrus. The walrus. I think he won the Masters. Did he hate? Did he hate the walrus? He probably did. It wasn't exactly a compliment. It doesn't sound like the greatest thing that I've ever seen. I can see why he hated it. But yeah, that's it. It's been 40 years. So that was cool. All right. Let's, uh, let's get to break. We have a great camera reel joining us next talking some NFL. Is that time of the year, ladies and gentlemen? We are getting closer and closer to NFL season. I'm getting excited thinking about it. More going to Chris on the way. Hi. Welcome back to Glenn and Chris 239, the time, Chris Elo, Tony Gwen Jr. in Washington, D.C. Padres and nationals start their series tomorrow. Matt Scravia alongside here in the Odyssey Palace want to remind you of baseball coverage. Right here on 97.3, the fan brought to you by T-Mobile, switch to T-Mobile and you can get tons of benefits and still save on every plan versus AT&T and Verizon. Use their savings calculator to find out how go to T-Mobile.com/switch, uh, talk some baseball, talk some golf, Zander Shoutflee, big doons over the weekend, Padres, big doons over the weekend as they, uh, take two or three from the AL central leading guardians. But, um, I don't know if you can feel it out there. Um, spring is almost in the air, but football's even closer than that. It's only nine days until the Hall of Fame game. So we are starting to get excited around here about the national football league joining us, the former star, receiver, Stanford University and the Miami Dolphins, Greg Camarillo. Our guy here on 97.3, the fan now working over at San Diego State with the Aztecs. Greg, how are you? Thanks so much, by the way, for bringing the gang in to see us a couple of weeks ago. Uh, the quarterback and the two DBs. Uh, we had a great time. I hope they did too. They did. Chris, thank you for, for hosting them and, uh, showing the Aztecs what that broadcasting life is all about, but, um, like you mentioned, man, football is in the air. I went on ESPN.com today and you know, they have like the game, they, they've reached your mind and picked the game that you're interested in seeing. They put the charters Seattle pre-seeking game up there as one of the upcoming games for me to see. And it got me excited for football season, can't wait, can't wait for sure. Uh, let's start with the, at the top of football and we'll work our way down. The chiefs have now won two Super Bowls in a row. Nobody's ever won three in a row. Do you think the chiefs winning again would be a great thing for football or is it time for them to get knocked off their perch? And if they get knocked off their perch, give me a couple of teams you think could legitimately pull it off other than the 49ers because we know that they, they're trying to, uh, the chiefs are the gold standard when it comes to football, this era, much like the Patriots were in the past era. I don't think it's good for any sport and any team to win three consecutive championships because it's farmed to see change, um, much like we saw, uh, you call men's basketball this last year to dominate two years in a row. It's not as much fun as watching a new team come and at least put up a fight or win a championship. Uh, I will be for somebody else to come win that championship and that's nothing against the chiefs. They're amazing. They're great. But it's more fun when we get to see things change up and that's what the NFL has going is this a league where most teams have a shot. Uh, I think that's what makes it fun to watch. Apparently, Greg doesn't like dynasties and so he wants it to be broken up immediately, which sounds a little bit of a hater, but it's okay as we move on. You had to face Brady for most of his career. So I think that's where it comes from. I guess I guess I could understand that. Uh, Greg, I want to ask you a little bit about the Bears and Caleb Williams. What do you think of the roster that he's inheriting? At least offensively. I know he's got some weapons there on the outside. Can he, can he have, does he have a chance to thrive in his rookie season? Um, the, the short answer is yes. I have not had a much of a chance to actually watch Bears football in the last few years or pay much attention. They're off season because they have been abysmal. I thought Justin Fields had talent. I thought that he was someone that could turn into a franchise quarterback. Uh, in shosh, he would demonstrate sparks of that, but ultimately like the quarterback, that's where careers have gone to die, these, these past decades, um, that is just, it's not been set up for success. And when you're picking first, it means because your, your team has not been good, but Caleb Williams is that guy and getting to watch him at FC, uh, and the competency plays with the maturity, the poise like this is as a pro quarterback, ready to play as, uh, uh, you know, they mentioned I went to Stanford as Andrew Luck and I got getting to watch him play in college. You could just see the difference between a guy that's a good at college football and a guy that's ready for the pros and that is Caleb Williams and his, um, maturity and ability to be in the pocket, uh, and, and make the right play. And so I think he does have a chance for success. Well, it happened right away, probably not, but over his time in Chicago, he is the guy that can turn things around there. Talking about the quarterback position, Greg Camarillo is with us and, uh, I just want to go back to the Chiefs for a half a second because it seems like the only really advantage that the chiefs have over everybody is Patrick Mahomes and I'm just, it, it doesn't seem right to me, but it in a lot of ways it does because we saw what Brady did and all the other quarterbacks before and after, but why is it that in football, which is really the ultimate team game, 22 guys have to be working in concert out there, that that one position, the fact that the chiefs have an edge there is why they have an edge everywhere. Uh, absolutely, and it, and it relates to the coaching much like, uh, Mahomes and Brady, they both had their coaches that are next level coaches that can take them there, uh, but you can't discount the value of, of Travis Kelsey and I'm not saying he is the sole reason they are winning championship, um, but I got a chance to broadcast, uh, UCLA spring game this year and UCLA's new offensive coordinators, Eric, the enemy who spent, uh, a lot of time in Kansas City, so I was talking to him like, how does he teach, uh, the college guys that pro offense and he said, we will watch a lot of films, so we'll watch how we did it in practice and then we'll watch the chiefs to see and show how it's supposed to be done, but I don't want my guys watching Travis Kelsey because he just makes things up and so it's that combination of Mahomes being an elite quarterback and Travis Kelsey just being able to freestyle things in that chemistry between them, much like Gronk and Brady where even if a play broke down, they'll figure it out. Um, so it's really that, that having the coach, having that quarterback, but then having guys like, like Gronk, having guys like Kelsey that can go off script and just make amazing things happen and you put all that together and that's, that's the magic sauce right there, that's what gets you a ring. Greg Camarillo joins us here on Gwen and Chris and Greg, one of the things that came out, I don't know if John Harbaugh said it yesterday or today, but he talked about Lamar Jackson. The plan is for him to end up being the greatest quarterback to ever do it. Now, he's obviously took some flack because he has struggled quite frankly in the postseason. I mean, does he have a chance this year with the additions of Derek Henry in that backfield? What are you, what is it going to have to, what are you going to have to see for from him in order for him to get over the hump in terms of getting this kind of playoff issue behind him? Yeah, I mean, he's, I don't think he'll ever be the most, uh, the greatest quarterback of all time. He's one of the greatest to watch, one of the most fun to watch, uh, definitely has the most, um, skill set as the quarterback, as far as doing different things. Getting over that homie is so hard in the NFL to win a Super Bowl. You look at, um, guys like Dan Marino, who were one of the most epic pastors in the world that never had, uh, a championship ring because it takes so much more around you. And it also takes some luck. Um, you think of the times where Brady came back 28, three, there was some luck involved. Kansas City in their playoff game with 16 seconds left getting the kickoff and going and getting the field goal. Like there's a, there's a little component of luck that goes beyond just the talent. Lamar Jackson has all the talent. He's heading in the right direction. They're putting with pieces around him. Uh, but sometimes it just takes that little bit of luck to get you that, that championship ring. Um, and you know, that's, that's what, that's what Lamar seems to be missing is that, that, and not just for him, the team around him, um, to get him to go to the next step. Kurt Camarillo is with us. Of course. So one of the things that, uh, is exciting about the beginning of any season, whether it's, uh, baseball football, whatever, uh, new faces and new places. And you know, in the NFL, it's going to take a while for everybody to catch up on who's, you know, running back where some of the quarterbacks have moved around. Obviously wide receiver sign free agent contracts, but I don't think there's a bigger name that is newcomer to the NFL this year than Jim Harbaugh. And he comes in to take over the Chargers and you look at Harbaugh. I mean, he's coming off, first of all, a national championship. But when he was coaching the 49ers, it was unreal how successful he was. And people think that a lot of people I've seen think that he's already like a top five coach in the NFL, just coming back. He just lands that high. And people think he can do it with the Chargers, which I have to say, he's taking on a, you know, an amazing challenge because he's doing it with the franchise has never been able to get it done. What do you know about Jim? I mean, you know, USD connection, Stanford connection, whatever, but that makes him so great. Yeah. Well, first of all, let me go back to your, uh, your name game was trying to figure out who's on what team I was listening to you and Scravey try to challenge each other at the where the three agents went. And it made me crack open the, uh, the NFL preview is trying to figure out who's on what team because they just did a serious shuffle this off season. Uh, Jim Harbaugh has proven destination after destination that he builds champion. He started at USD. I worked in the athletic department there. He totally turned that program into a championship program. Stanford now, and this is no knock tomorrow. I'm a moderate, but well, it is a knock down. Well, mild matter is you can turn Stanford into a championship program. You have the magical Duke because the things he did there literally turned this, the struggling program into a, a team that could, uh, fight for a national championship. Um, and then he left and did it with the Niners. So, you know, it's for Scravey's probably the happiest about that. So he proved you could do it at all levels of college and then he did it in the pros and then he did the exact same thing at Michigan. So this guy just has, uh, the blueprint for turning programs around. Now, this is going to be probably his biggest talent, uh, challenge. And it is because they lack talent. The Chargers have Justin Herbert, who was an amazing quarterback. And then that's it. They've got rid of Keena now and they got rid of Mike Williams. They just, they don't have elite talent surrounding Justin Herbert for him to immediately come and make an impact. But I'd be a fool to say he can't do it because we've seen him time and time again do it. It'll be fun to watch just how quickly he can do it. Uh, and then with what pieces, you know, who are the guys that we're, um, used to Austin Echler, we're used to, uh, Keena Allen, who are going to be the guys that fill those spots? But if there's one guy that can do it, that's Coach Harbaugh for sure. No doubt about it. Uh, Greg, I got to ask you since you brought the 49ers up and then Scravey's happiness, uh, Bren and I, you know, is unhappy right now with the 49ers in the contract negotiation. And, you know, I was listening to, I've heard this, this kind of speak prior to listening to Scravey and, and Chris talk about it, that Brandon Ayuk is, is not an important piece to that offense. Now, you played the wide receiver position. Um, how important is Brandon Ayuk to that offense? He's huge. Uh, I think he's in one piece and I'm not saying he's the piece because they have George Kittle. They got Debo Samuels, um, Brock Purdy is the one delivering the ball, but Brandon Ayuk is one of the reasons that they went on such a run last year. Uh, and as a wide receiver to watch him, his ability to come across the middle and make huge plays is huge to the game. You have to pay attention to Brandon Ayuk and then that gets Debo Samuel open, that gets George Kittle open, that makes Brock Purdy's life easier. Uh, it's a he's huge in their success. Now, if he's $30 million a year huge, like he's asking, probably not. Um, but he is due to make $14 million. This is the last year of his rookie deal. I mean, they still have the ability to franchise tag him after that. So I personally don't think he's leaving. I have no problem with a man sending me off. He's been going into contract negotiations because that's his time. You know, he's 26 years old. This is his prime chance to get money. Go ahead and get, you know, get that money, man. Get that bag. But, um, I think he'll be a niner again. Hopefully they can find a way to, um, make some room in the salary cap for him. They're fine this year coming up, but in future years, they've got some issues with the salary cap and, you know, they, they found, uh, Mr. A relevant Brock Purdy in a franchise quarterback who's making pennies to everyone else in the dollars, pennies everyone else is millions of dollars. Um, so they got to capitalize now. They, you know, they're gonna have to pay him at some point. Yep. Yep. So they, they got to go for it now. And if there's a way to get Brandon and I, you, uh, happy and get him money and get him out on that field, he is definitely needed for a championship run. Greg, we got a couple minutes left. I want to use all the minutes. Scrabies rolling his eyes. I mean, I go, hey, Chris, we only got one minute until we're out. And he's like, Oh, so what I wanted to do is thank you for coming on. Come on. Ask your question. Ask your question. I got nothing for it. Ask your question. Keep talking and angry. Scrabie. How about that? All right. In as many words as you can. No, from 2006 to 12, when you played 12 years now, how has the National Football League possibly gotten more popular than when you were there? Because it was huge then, but it seems like it's bigger than ever now. Taylor Swift. No, just kidding. That's the difference. Gambling was not embraced when, when I was playing. And now that is such a huge component of the game for everyone to be able to, well, most people, depending on your state, to be able to gamble on the game. You've gotten so popular that even some NFL players are gambling on their own game. So that, that is a huge component of the game. And it's helped bring in money. It's helped bring in visibility. It's helped getting guys like Brandon and I use these bigger contracts. 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But I don't know if you can feel it out there. Spring is almost in the air, but football is even closer than that. It's only nine days until the Hall of Fame game. So we are starting to get excited around here about the national football league joining us. The former star receiver Stanford University and the Miami Dolphins Greg Camarillo. Our guy here on 97 3 the fan now working over at San Diego State with the Aztecs. Greg, how are you? Thanks so much, by the way, for bringing the gang in to see us a couple of weeks ago, the quarterback and the two DBs. We had a great time. I hope they did too. They did. Chris, thank you for hosting them and showing the Aztecs what that broadcasting life is all about. But like you mentioned, man, football is in the air. I went on ESPN.com today and you know they have like the game. They they've read your mind and pick the game that you're interested in seeing. They put the charters Seattle preseason game up there as one of the upcoming games for me to see and it got me excited for football season. Can't wait. Can't wait for sure. Let's start with the at the top of football and we'll work our way down. The Chiefs have now won two Super Bowls in a row. Nobody's ever won three in a row. Do you think the Chiefs winning again would be a great thing for football or is it time for them to get knocked off their perch? And if they get knocked off their perch, give me a couple of teams you think could legitimately pull it off other than the 49ers because we know that they. Yeah. I mean, if the Chiefs are the gold standard when it comes to football of this era, much like the Patriots were of the past era, I don't think it's good for any sport and any team to win three consecutive championships because it's farmed to see change. Much like we saw you call men's basketball this last year to dominate two years in a row. It's not as much fun as watching a new team come and at least put up a fight or win a championship. So I will be for somebody else to come win that championship and that's not going to get the Chiefs. They're amazing. They're great. But it's more fun when we get to see things change up and that's what the NFL has going is it's a league where most teams have a shot. I think that's what makes it fun to watch. Apparently, Greg doesn't like dynasties. And so he wants it to be broken up immediately, which sounds a little bit of a hater, but it's okay as we move on. Definitely hater in there. He had to face Brady for most of his career. So I think that's where it comes from. I guess I guess I could understand that. Greg, I want to ask you a little bit about the Bears and Kayla Williams. What do you think of the roster that he's inheriting at least offensively? I know he's got some weapons there on the outside. Does he have a chance to thrive in his rookie season? The short answer is yes. So I have not had much of a chance to actually watch Bears football in the last few years or pay much attention to their offseason because they have been abysmal. I thought Justin Fields had talent. I thought that he was someone that could turn into a franchise quarterback. In Shaw, he would demonstrate sparks of that. But ultimately, like the quarterback, that's where careers have gone to die. This path negated. That is just it's not been set up for success. And when you're picking first, it means because your team has not been good. But Kayla Williams is that guy and getting to watch him at FC. And the confidence he plays with, the maturity, the poise like this is as a pro quarterback ready to play. As you mentioned, I went to Stanford as Andrew Luck. And I got getting to watch him play in college. You could just see the difference between a guy that's good at college football and a guy that's ready for the pros. And that is Kayla Williams. And his maturity and ability to be in the pocket and make the right play. And so I think he does have a chance for success. Well, it happened right away, probably not. But over his time in Chicago, he is the guy that can turn things around there. Talking about the quarterback position, great Camarillo is with us. And I just want to go back to the Chiefs for a half a second, because it seems like the only really advantage that the Chiefs have over everybody is Patrick Mahomes. And I'm just, it doesn't seem right to me, but in a lot of ways it does, because we saw what Brady did and all the other quarterbacks before and after. But why is it that in football, which is really the ultimate team game 22 guys have to be working in concert out there, that that one position, the fact that the Chiefs have an edge there is why they have an edge everywhere. Absolutely. And it relates to the coaching, much like Mahomes and Brady, they both had their coaches that are next level coaches that can take them there. But you can't discount the value of Travis Kelty. And I'm not saying he is the sole reason they are winning championship. But I got a chance to broadcast UCLA's spring game this year, and UCLA's new offensive coordinators, Eric B. Enemy, who spent a lot of time in Kansas City. So I was talking to him like, how does he teach the college guys that pro offense? And he said, we will watch a lot of films. So we'll watch how we did it in practice. And then we'll watch the Chiefs to see and show how it's supposed to be done. But I don't want my guys watching Travis Kelty because he just makes things up. It's always that combination of Mahomes being in a league quarterback and Travis Kelty just being able to freestyle things in that chemistry between them, much like Gronk and Brady, where even if a play broke down, they'll figure it out. So it's really that having the coach, having that quarterback, but then having guys like Gronk, having guys like Kelty that can go off script and just make amazing things happen. And you put all that together, and that's the magic sauce right there. That's what gives you a ring. Greg Amarillo joins us here on Gwen and Chris. And Greg, one of the things that came out, I don't know if John Harbaugh said it yesterday or today, but he talked about Lamar Jackson. The plan is for him to end up being the greatest quarterback to ever do it. Now, he's obviously took some flak because he has struggled quite frankly in the postseason. I mean, does he have a chance this year with the additions of Derrick Henry in that backfield? What are you going to have to see for from him in order for him to get over the hump in terms of getting this kind of playoff issue behind him? Yeah, I mean, he's I don't think he'll ever be the most the greatest quarterback of all time. He's one of the greatest to watch. One of the most funds to watch definitely has the most skill set as the quarterback, as far as doing different things. Getting over that home, it's so hard in the NFL to to win a Super Bowl. You look at guys like Dan Marino, who were one of the most epic pastors in the world that never had a championship ring because it takes so much more around you. And it also takes some luck. You think of the times where Brady came back 28-3. There was some luck involved. Kansas City in their playoff game with 16 seconds left, getting the kickoff and going and getting the field goal. Like, there's a little component of luck that goes beyond just the talent. Lamar Jackson has all the talent. He's heading in the right direction. They're putting with pieces around him. But sometimes it just takes that little bit of luck to get you that that championship ring. And you know, that's what that's what Lamar seems to be missing is that and not just for him, the team around him to get him to go to the next step. Kirk Amareo is with us, of course. So one of the things that is exciting about the beginning of any season, whether it's baseball, football, whatever, new faces and new places. And you know, in the NFL, it's going to take a while for everybody to catch up on who's, you know, running back where some of the quarterbacks have moved around, obviously wide receivers signed free agent contracts. But I don't think there's a bigger name that is newcomer to the NFL this year than Jim Harbaugh. And he comes in to take over the chargers. And you look at Harbaugh. I mean, he's coming off, first of all, a national championship. But when he was coaching the 49ers, it was unreal how successful he was. And people think that a lot of people I've seen think that he's already like a top five coach in the NFL, just coming back. He just lands that high. And people think he can do it with the chargers, which I have to say, he's taking on a, you know, an amazing challenge because he's doing it with a franchise has never been able to get it done. What do you know about Jim? I mean, you know, USD connection, Stanford connection, whatever, but that makes him so great. Yeah. Well, first of all, let me go back to your, uh, your name game was kind of figure out who's on what team I was listening to you and Scravey try to challenge each other as the where the three agents went. And it made me crack open the NFL previews, trying to figure out who's on what team because they just a serious shuffle this off season. Uh, Jim Harbaugh has proven destination after destination that he builds champion. He started that USD. I worked in the athletic department there. He totally turned that program into a championship program. Stanford now, and this is no knock them all the matter, but well, it is a knock down one mile matter. If you can turn Stanford into a championship program, you have the magical Duke because the things he did there literally turned this, the struggling program into a, a team that could fight for a national championship. Um, and then he left and did it with the Niners. So, you know, it's for Scravey's probably the happiest about that. So he proved you could do it at all levels of college and then he did it in the pros. And then he did the exact same thing at Michigan. So this guy just has the blueprint for turning programs around. Now this is going to be probably his biggest talent challenge. And it is because they lack talent. The Chargers have Justin Herbert, who was an amazing quarterback. And then that's it. They've got rid of Keenan Allen. They got rid of Mike Williams. They just, they don't have elite talent surrounding Justin Herbert for him to immediately come and make an impact. But I'd be a fool to say he can't do it because we've seen him time and time again. Do it. It'll be fun to watch just how quickly he can do it. And then with what pieces, you know, who are the guys that we're used to Austin Echler, we're used to Keenan Allen, who are going to be the guys that fill those spots. But if there's one guy that can do it, that's Coach Harbaugh for sure. No doubt about it. Greg, I got to ask you since you brought the 49ers up in Scraves' happiness, Brennan and Iyuk is unhappy right now with the 49ers in the contract negotiation. And you know, I was listening to, I've heard this kind of speak prior to listening to Scraves and Chris talk about it, that Brennan and Iyuk is not an important piece to that offense. Now you played the wide receiver position. How important is Brennan and Iyuk to that offense? He's huge. I mean, he's in one piece and I'm not saying he's the piece because they have George Kittle. They got Deebo Samuels. Brock Purdy is the one delivering the ball, but Brennan and Iyuk is one of the reasons that they went on such a run last year. And as a wide receiver to watch him, his ability to come across the middle and make huge plays is huge to the game. You have to pay attention to Brennan and Iyuk. And then that gets Deebo Samuels open, that gets George Kidaloka, that makes Brock Purdy's life easier. It's a he's huge in their success. Now it's $30 million a year huge like he's asking, probably not, but he is due to make $14 million. This is the last year of his rookie deal and they still have the ability to franchise tag him after that. So I personally don't think he's leaving. I have no problem with a man spending the offseason going into contract negotiations because that's his time. You know, he's 26 years old. This is his prime chance to get money. Go ahead and get that money man, get that bag. But I think he'll be a niner again. Hopefully they can find a way to make some room in the salary cap for him. They're fine this year coming up. But in future years, they've got some issues with the salary cap. And you know, they found Mr. A relevant Brock Purdy in a franchise quarterback who's making pennies to everyone else's dollars. Pennies said one of those is millions of dollars. We said they got to capitalize now. They, you know, they're going to pay him at some point. Yep. Yep. So they got to go for it now. And if there's a way to get Brandon, I you happy and get him money and get him out on that field, he is definitely needed for a championship run. Greg, we got a couple minutes left. I want to use all the minutes. Scrabby's rolling his eyes. I mean, Chris, we only got one minute until we're out. He's like, Oh, so what I wanted to do is thank you for coming on. Oh, come on. There's a question at this point, as he moved everything, talk to next week, or you go ask your question question. Ask your question. I got nothing for it. Ask your question. Just keep talking angry. Scrabby. How about that? All right. In as many words as you can. No, from 2006 to 12, when you played 12 years now, how has the National Football League possibly gotten more popular than when you were there? Because it was huge then, but it seems like it's bigger than I ever know. Taylor Swift. No, just kidding. I'm going to say that. That's the difference. Gambling was not embraced when I was playing. And now that is such a huge component of the game for everyone to be able to, well, most people, depending on your state, to be able to gamble on the game. You've gotten so popular and even some NFL players are gambling on their own. So that is a huge component of the game and it's helped bring in money. It's helped bring in visibility. It's helped getting guys like Brandon and I use these bigger contracts. Well done, Greg, we got to go right now. Can't even say goodbye because Scrabby is getting coming out of his ears. 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