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It's nice enough to sit in for a couple of hours and now bonus time with Sam Levitt. Thank you. Thank you, Sam. All right. I like it. I can get behind that. Frank Marquesi, big Frank. Sitting in for the ailing match, Scravey. We hope to have Matt back in the saddle tomorrow, but he's not been feeling well the last couple of days. Tony Gwen Jr. is on vacay. Chris Hello here with you and the gang at 401 and we're getting ready for a little Chris versus the fans. And this is going to be one of my favorite editions of Chris versus the fans ever because I'm not going to play. I'm going to turn it over to today's host of the show Frank Marquesi and today's expert, Sam Levitt. Are you pretty good at it? I'm sure you're good at baseball trivia. How good are you at some of the other stuff that might come up? Yeah, I'm pretty good. All right. And I mean, I've done this. I've done this at least once or twice. All right. Yeah. I have to been around the winter. Yeah. Maybe days I was filling in for you was crazy. Yes. I haven't I haven't been. I don't remember how I did, but all right. Well, we're going to find out how you do today. We've got a full list of phone callers out there. They're going to be the bigger concern is the questions because we know Scrabie sometimes these questions. That's the hardest part. What is this? The hardest part is figuring out Scrabie's questions. There's no there's no doubt about it. Figuring out what Scrabie's question is is part of this game for sure. But if you can unlock unlock the secret and then beat Sam Levitt today, you will be qualified for a trip to the Rio in Las Vegas. It includes a two night stay and dinner for two. It also includes the day bed at the Rio pool. Rio Las Vegas is back, baby. New ownership, newly remodeled rooms, four sparkling new pools, and a brand new food haul, which is where Frank and I are going to be going. It's all ready for you now and your next Vegas escape beyond the expected beyond the strip beyond your wildest dreams. Rio Las Vegas, the rhythm of Vegas book now at Rio Las Vegas.com. What do you say, Frank Markezi? Let's play a little Sammy versus the fans. If you had one shot, one opportunity to take down the human all the Mac himself, how would he do? Now is your time. Listen to me, this guy, strangers. Now is your opportunity to win a prize. Well, I hope you know what Jen for Chris versus the fans starts now on 97 three the fan. All right, we're about to get underway here. There are six lines and they're all filled. I will choose a line at random by rolling this dice that I have here, whichever night a number comes up. That's where we'll start today. You'll get three questions. They'll get a little easier to harder. And if you answer correctly, move on to a question number two and then three. But if you miss it, Sam Levitt can end your dreams by correctly answering the question. If he misses it though, then you, you live on and you move to the next round or you win. And Frank says he doesn't want to take part of this. We'll see if Sammy wants to take part in this part of it. If you're a first time player, it's just me today. You didn't even take part of it. I know I didn't even take part. That's right. If you're first time player, then you get the first question, you can move right or past it. You go around to question two, but you have to let us know. All right. So here we go. The dice has said the line number five will go first today. So it looks like old Tom out there. It looks like Tom. Tom, how are you doing? But I'm doing well. How are you doing? Doing all right. All right, so there you go. Right on to question two for Tom. All right. Very good. So let's let's get into it. Question number two, Justin Upton played six seasons for what team played six. It's a scraping question. You have to figure it out yourself. Justin Upton played for six seasons. What team did he play the most seasons in his career with? I guess he meant 16 possible. Yeah, I think it's 16. Scrabies, you know. This is terrible. Okay. I mean, look, look, Scrabby has trouble writing these questions when he's not. What what team did Justin Upton play the most years with? He did play 16 years. That is correct. Let's just start this whole faction over. I understand. I think the question. He understands it. Tom says, you know, enough's enough, Frank. Give him an opportunity. What are you going to go with here, Tom? Your what team did you play the most with? I'm going to go with the Braves. The Braves, he says. Oh, wow. It's not a player. It's not the Braves. Did not play with the braid the most with the Braves. Justin Upton, who did he play the most with? Sammy, if you get this, not the brace. No, he did not. That's a little surprising to me. That probably would have been my one of the teams he played with was the pod, but it's not right, but it's not them. Um, is it the angels? The angels, he says. Did he even play for the angels? Yes, he did. I know it. You know it now, Tom, who do you think it is now? I think it's the Diamondbacks. It is the Diamondbacks. You know, I don't know. I just don't know if my other guests. That was my other guests. That was the first team he played for was the Diamondbacks. Wow. That's all right. I played for them for his first six years were with the Arizona, then only two years in Atlanta. Weird. I would have thought he was there longer. Yeah. And then quick stops in San Diego, Detroit, and before he fit Detroit, I didn't remember that. Yeah. And then he finished with five years with the angels. So the angels were close. The angels were last. Actually, he know, I take it back. He snuck in 17 games with Seattle in this final season. All right, very good. Tom, you stay alive and move on to the deciding third question here. All right, hopefully no, no, the question. Yeah, I know. Frank is looking at it. Mariano Rivera and Trevor Hoffman are the only MLB are the only pictures in MLB history with more than 600 saves. Who is third on that list with 478? Oh, pretty pretty good question. I think, Tom, what do you think? Who's the who's number three on the all time? Yes, all time saves list behind Rivera and behind Trevor. I'm going to go straight guess. Can we Janssen? Can we Janssen? Is he number three on the all time save list? I don't think so. Oh, no, and he's right. It is not. Can we Janssen? Oh, man, this is hard. This is hard. All right, he might he could miss this, Tom, and you can instill up winning. There's something, there's something in me, something that wants to say how I feel like it's wrong, though, that wants to say it's maybe Francisco Rodriguez. Hey, Rod. Oh, you know, you got your final answer. Oh, uh, yeah, I think it's wrong, though, but yes, he's going with K rod. If this is wrong, Tom is the champ. Oh, how many did he have? It is wrong. What is it? Number six on the all time list is K rod. Okay. Number five on the all time list is Tom's answer. Can we Janssen? Okay. Number four on the all time list is the active Craig Kimbrell. Right. Okay. And number three, the guy you are all looking for Hall of Famer, Lee Smith. Okay. Lee Smith. Okay. Mostly for the co I thought I thought K rod was higher on that list. Maybe at one time, he was. He was. He's just recently been passed by both Kimbrell and Janssen. That's I thought that was higher on the list. I'm so yeah. Well, all right. Very good, Tommy. Wow. Wow. It's very, no, you don't stink. Those are two really good questions. Those are two really good questions from the Scraeby Chronicles there. Well, now I want to look it up. So what do you want to look in? Well, you want to look up BJ? But why did we think like, Oh, well, you know, BJ only spent two years in Atlanta too. That's weird. I, I, I maybe you thought Justin Upton was in Atlanta longer because he came to the Padres for me. I think of the Upton's. I just think of them as braves a lot in my head. But they were there for a couple of years. Well, weren't they both Diamondbacks too? Or Raiser? Well, BJ wasn't he was Ray for a long time. Yeah, BJ was. But BJ never played for the Diamondbacks. No. Well, you came up empty today. Sammy, what can I tell you? I might have come up empty too. So those are tough questions. Marianne Rivera though, 652 Trevor. That means that means Francisco Rodriguez was somewhat recently fourth. Right. He just got passed super off. No, no, you're very good. And Tom was very good because his Kenley Jansen answer was actually ahead of your answer. Right. So good for him. I really can't believe Craig Kimball is still going. Yeah. I mean, it seems like every time I look up, he's getting lit up. But the Orioles, well, you know, stick with them. Yeah, I mean, there's been, you know, Kim, Kimball still really good. There have been a lot of big spots though and postseason spots that have not that have not gone as well. Yeah. Yeah, the top 10 all time saves is Rivera, Trevor, Lee Smith, Kimball, Kenley Jansen, Kayrod, John Franco. There you go. Yeah, Frank, an old Met for you, Billy Wagner, another old Met. Kayrods, an old Met too. Kayrods, an old Met, Dennis Eckerzly is ninth. And Joe Nathan would be your number 10 guy in the all-time save list. Of course, saves were, you know, a whole different ball whacks back in the day. Yeah. When Raleigh finger, see, Raleigh fingers to me, he's 15th on the all-time save list. But his 341 saves are more impressive, even like the Lee Smith's 478. Right. Because Raleigh fingers was always three innings. Same with Goose. Yeah. Well, he said 310. The thing, the thing with Mariano and Trevor Hoffman are number one, they were excellent. Number two, they just did it for so long. It's a high level. I mean, you look, you look at the list. It's it's 652 from Mariano 601 for Trevor. And then Lee Smith is at 478. Yeah. I remember when Rivera came up with the Yankees and he was the eighth inning guy. Yeah. Do you remember who the ninth inning guy was before Rivera took over? Yeah. His name is, uh, he's number 12 on the all-time save list. But guess that's Jeff Riordan? No. No. Who is that? John Weddleman. Right. Yeah. 1996. The first year that the Yankees won the World Series under Joe Tory. Right. John Weddleman was the closer. Rivera was the setup guy. And then, of course, Weddleman moved on to free agency the very next year. Like a little Robert Suarez, Josh Hader situation. Yeah. Yeah. I think people think that Marianne Rivera just started out as the closer. Right. I saw Marianne Rivera pitch at Tony Gwen Stadium on the campus of San Diego State. And I believe it was the 96th season. The Yankees that year opened the season in Anaheim. And George Steinbrenner, the then owner, was friends with the Aztec athletic director at the time named Rick Bay. They knew each other from back in the day. Steinbrenner called Rick Bay and said, "We are opening the season in Anaheim, but we have like three days off in between our pre- you know, spring training finale and the old. We really could use a game. What would you think about us coming to San Diego and playing the Aztecs? You know, you're and Rick Bay and Tony Gwen was the, you know, the manager. I mean, it was a big deal. Yeah. And so the Yankees came and played the Aztecs in a, in a spring training game. And all the Yankees were here. I mean, we're talking strawberry and Bernie Williams and all those guys. And they were wonderful. They all played a couple innings and they all went and hung out and the dugout with the Aztec players. I remember a guy named a Chad Curtis at a Grand Slam. The Yankees end up winning probably 12 to four, you know, they won comfortably. But I remember in the middle of the game, Marianne Rivera came into pitch, maybe the fifth or sixth inning. And I just remember there was just one left-handed batter for the Aztecs who came up to face him. And he just had no chance to get around on the Rivera fastball. Sammy, he lined like seven or eight pitches in a row over the third base dugout, just like straight foul. And Rivera was dying of laughter on the mound. Because he, it was like he kept saying here, here comes a fastball. Right. And you know, just you couldn't, you couldn't hit it. You couldn't get around on it. And that was that whoever that kid was, don't feel so bad. Because major league players couldn't hit it either. Right. For the better part of 20 years. So I mean, Marianne Rivera only had one pitch. That's the unbelievable thing. And that's the thing that I was thinking about with Suarez. Suarez has more than one pitch. But by and large, he does it with one pitch. And you think to yourself, God, are they going to catch up to it at some point? I don't know. They never caught up to Rivera. Yeah. Well, for the most part, this season, they haven't. That's right. Little blip on the radar with the game where they walked it off. But they have to end up winning that game anyway. Yeah. And also he had to come in bases loaded a game he shouldn't have been in anyway. I kind of erased that game from the ledger. You're nice to do that. Yes. And I looked at it the other way. I thought, come on, man, this is the easiest save you'll ever get. Well, you got a five run lead. You got to get one out. But but base is loaded and then one swing and it was a one run game. I know, but he didn't do it. That wasn't one of the rare times he didn't do it. Yeah. All right. Good job, Tom. Congratulations. An exciting game of Christopher's the fans. I enjoyed watching you guys play. Sammy Levitt. Thank you so much for coming in today. It is so tough to. And it honestly is. And these are tough three or four days. I don't have Tony. I don't have Scrabie. Frank's been great, but it was really nice of you to come in. Thank you. I know the listeners appreciate it. They love hearing from you. And we will hear from you again. Now you're invited, by the way, tomorrow. I know tomorrow is another day. We'll see. I got it. I'd like to come in. You're more than welcome to not if not tomorrow three 10 front. We'll see you at three 10 Friday for the next Padre pregame show. Right now we'll send you to some traffic and then back more Gwen and Chris. We all belong outside. We're drawn to nature, whether it's the recorded sounds of the ocean we doze off to or the succulents that adorn our homes. Nature makes all of our lives well better. Despite all this, we often go about our busy lives removed from it. But the outdoors is closer than we realize. With all trails, you can discover trails nearby and explore confidently. 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We will have a daily gamut though coming up for you in the five o'clock hour. And also we thought with the Hall of Fame induction ceremonies for Major League Baseball coming up. We would revisit one of our all time favorite moments on this program. The day that Tony Gwyn Jr. and I sat down in Cooperstown right before he was inducted into the Hall of Fame with Trevor Hoffman. Great interview from several years ago. And you're going to get a chance to hear that a tad later in the program today. You know it's um I was looking at this Frank and I was looking at the some of the stats in Major League Baseball. And you know one of the things that I think makes baseball great is that the statistics even though we've come out now with all these analytic things and f-war and I don't know. Bought bat-bip. I mean there's stuff I can't even understand. But we've come out of all this stuff. We still do have some of the other averages and home runs and RBIs and you know statistics that you can compare through the eras, through the history of the game. You it sure was a different game in 1920 than it is in 2024. But you know you can compare statistics now to them. And I look at some of the stats at the midway point of this season and I start and it's not the official midway point. We're actually more than halfway through but game 100 on Friday. That's right. The all-star break is you know kind of looked upon. And I'm looking at is there any all-time records that are being threatened this year? The answer to that is most likely no. Ryan Helsley of the Cardinals does have 32 saves. I believe K-Rod, your guy, has the record with like 65. So he's almost halfway there. But again. Oh no that was, I thought Kanye but that's the most consecutive without blowing a save. Yeah, Kanye had the most consecutive ever without blowing a save. But I think K-Rod has the record for single season saves with 65. And yeah that was in 2008. Now the thing about K-Rod, the number two guy on that list is another one of your guys. Edwin Diaz with 57. So K-Rod broke that record by five and that's a pretty comfortable margin on it. The most Trevor ever got was 53. Kanye had 55. Anyway so that's one of them. But here's a record that absolutely is not going to be caught this season. And I don't know that it's going to be caught in our lifetime or anyone else's. You know what it is? Like take a, I mean look the home run record bond 73. Okay I'm looking at single season records. You're right. DiMaggio's 56 seems untouchable for hitting streak. I'm talking about a single season statistic. It's in the major category. Single season statistic that is very unlikely ever to be broken. I think Nolan Ryan's strikeouts 383. I mean nobody pitches that much anymore. So it's almost impossible. But here's a record that conceivably could be broken because to me the game hasn't necessarily changed in this regard. And that is RB eyes. RB eyes are still counted up the same way they always were. They're still you know pretty much chalked up the same way they always were chalked up in the day. There's no real difference. Maybe maybe everyday players sit out a few extra games during a course of a season. But it's not like pitchers who now pitch a hundred fewer innings than they used to. The RBI record. Do you know what it is Frank? By offhand? I do not know. I'm sure it's probably it was it was it was maybe it. That's what you would think. The RBI record was set almost 100 years ago in the 1930 season by Chicago cub outfielder by the name of hack Wilson. And if you ever look at a picture of old hack Wilson is a big fella. All right. But hack. Hack drove in a hundred and ninety one runs that year. And I bring it up because in the 100 years since then no one has really come near it. Lou Gehrig is second. And he was a hundred years ago nineteen eight he had a hundred and eighty five Hank Greenberg Jimmy Fox. Some of the others on the all-time list Babe Ruth of course. Most babe ever got was one sixty eight. So babe never got within twenty five of hack Wilson. That's that's Babe Ruth. And you've also got to think they're playing the last games to shorter. Those were playing where they were playing a hundred and fifty four games. The most anyone has gotten in RBI's in the last seventy years. Somebody of one forty two or something like that. No actually Manny Ramirez in ninety nine. So that's fairly recent. Manny had a hundred and sixty five. And that's pretty good. Now and then after Manny Sammy Sosa during the steroid year at one sixty. But you know Manny's one sixty five and that was I believe steroid aided people would think in nineteen ninety nine I was right in the heart of that. But Manny's one sixty five. That's the best anyone's done in the last seventy five years. And that still doesn't bring you within twenty five RBI's of hack Wilson. So that one ninety one is going to be real tough for somebody ever to get to. And you know if you're thinking about it this year Aaron Judge is way up there. He's got eighty five. Is it okay. But even if you double it and he's got less games left. But even if you doubled it you'd still be at one seventy. It's still be twenty short. He's got eighty five. Osuda and Ramirez from Cleveland have seventy seven each right bomb who was on a tear at the beginning of the season at seventy. So is Josh Naylor. Yeah. That's your top five right now. I just think it's interesting that there's a statistic that's been there for over almost a hundred years. And no one's really approached it. I mean hack Wilson was hack Wilson. But you know nobody talks about the legend of hack Wilson. We talk about Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig and you know all the rest of these guys Willie Mayes and Hank Aaron and DiMaggio and Man Toland. Same thing it probably should be said for Henderson stolen base record. That's. That's another one that's so far out there. Good one. 130 in one year for Ricky on the bases. Problem with that one again being caught is that nobody runs that much right right. Here's the other thing the out the outlier on the Henderson season with a hundred and thirty steals. He got caught forty two times. That means once every four games he was thrown out trying to steal which basically means that's why stolen bases started to go away. Because the teams decided analytically that that out was too valuable to give up. Ricky got thrown out forty two times that year and was successful a hundred and thirty. Yeah he ran a hundred and seventy one times or hundred and seventy two times he tried to steal. Ricky he's in a he's in a world of his own. Yeah all right anyway just food for thought. Frank and the ailing Scrabie have put together our big five it's coming up next on Gwen and Chris. I don't want to put words in the mouth of Jim Rome but he was talking about the second overall pick in the draft. Alex Tsar Frank I know you're a big NBA fan. Alex Tsar picked by the Washington Wizards. Jim Rome said they're in that little clip that it doesn't know how worthy Tsar was of being the number two overall pick. The thing he didn't mention or didn't have time to mention they don't give him a lot of time for that. No I've cut those things up before it's yeah you don't get much time. No yeah but the reason I think he said that Tsar last night if you missed it in a summer league game took 15 field goal attempts and went 0 for 15. That's a rough night for Ricky. Yeah but you don't see too many NBA players even in a summer league game go over on 15 tries. Welcome back to Gwen and Chris. Chris Ello big Frank is in here today as Scrabie is on the mend not his shoulder this time. He's just flat out been sick for a couple of days and we hope that he'll be back tomorrow but in the meantime big Frank's doing a whale of a job and Tony Gwen Jr's idol. He'll be back Friday from Cleveland. That's where the Padres will send Matt Waldron to the mound against the guards to start the second half of the baseball season. One other note on that game Friday this is just he irks me. It's the Apple TV game. See the look on your face just when I said the Apple TV game. Who likes it? Is there anybody out there who would rather the game be streamed on Apple than you know on their TV where they could just watch it or DVR it and you know enjoy it at their leisure. I don't think anyone likes it better because it's on Apple. Maybe there's some people that don't have you know a cable TV and they only stream stuff so they're happy I guess because they can maybe stream it but that's got to be it. A message to all sports commissioners. Well they're not going to listen to you. Not everything has to be about money. Not everything. It's just something that wouldn't be nice. Yeah but Frank yeah you're in a dream world. Oh I know I am. Yeah you are. I mean I'm not saying you're wrong but everything's about money and you know when you when this when the stupid all-star game runs out there in these jerseys that's for money. Exactly. That's it. There's no other reason for it. Money money money. You don't have to monetize everything about every little aspect of every sport. You don't have to do it. Can't disagree with you but not going to happen. So yeah. Screaming Friday night. Apple TV. Disgust. It's that time of the show when we check on the latest in sports only the most important topics and questions are brought to light. Stop what you're doing and listen. These news stories will astound and amaze you. The one. The only. Oh my god who the hell cares. The big five starts now on 97th grade of fan. It's just one one last note on that and I just said it to you now while we were off. With how many Apple products I've purchased I should be able to have Apple TV for free. Dad just give it to you on on merit. Like Siri that should be done for anyone by the way. It does not just me. Anyone who is bought anything is bought anyone's bought 700 Apple products in the last year ought to be able to get the Apple games for free but you can't. It'll cost you extra and you have to stream it when they want you to. Yeah. And you have to watch all their stupid commercials. It's especially now with MLS sorry can't deal with it can't deal with the Friday night Apple games. Not happy. Especially with MLS game pass or whatever it is they are being stuck on there too. Sorry. Not for me. Number five. We hit it. We hit on this yesterday. You'd mentioned how much the the Green Bay Packers had made over the course of last year. Oh six. Yeah. Right. 650 million hours. Apparently the number has come out today for the NFL as a whole. It came out this morning. NFL teams are doing quite well for themselves monetarily. Last year each team earned four hundred and two point three million dollars in national revenue. Is that on that? Oh, I'm just in the natural national revenue via pro support by via pro football talk. Those were the words now when multiplied by 32 the amount of teams there are in the league. The league made 12.873 billion dollars last year, which is the seven and a half percent increase from the previous year. Certainly good news for Roger Goodell, who's reportedly shooting for his league to bring in 25 billion dollars in national revenue by 2027. So he's got two years to make basically double what he's made. Hey, this is it just has so much and they just get more and more. Yeah. And they that's I'm glad to bring it up because it's just a reminder. It's a reminder of why you shouldn't get mad when your favorite player signs a 90 million dollar eight year contract. It's chump change for these guys and then you know and the national football league. So if you're going to be mad at a player from quote, making too much then be just as mad at the owners because they make more. Yeah, exactly right. It is insane. And it is it is frustrating that you show up at what so if I stadium to see an NFL game and then you pay a hundred dollars to park and they just they don't even need that. No, they don't need that money. They've already made money hand over. They charge you what? 30 dollars for a beer at a football game. I go to it. I just why I can't stay in the NFL. Who could go to an NFL football game? Realistically. I mean, it's not the NFL. It's not a posh sport like tennis. You're pricing normal people out of a normal person sport. Why is it that I and I don't mean this in any other way than to make a statement about it. But why does it seem like the guy next to me is putting on hold paying off his his energy bill so that he can afford those tickets to the game he's at too. I have not gone to an NFL game in years and that one game I went to the tickets were given to me. I don't spend money on the NFL because I can't stand it. It's I can't help it. It's greeted. Oh, it is so important part of the biggest part for me is it never goes away. It never has an off season. I don't need to hear the AFC South get broken down in March. I don't need to hear that. All right, Frank. Let it have an off. I love the NFL. I hate the fact that they make so much money. I don't know what I can do about it though. We're going to stick with the NFL here for this one as the Bears and quarterback Caleb Williams haggle over the remaining language. Haggle over the remaining language in his rookie deal because again, there's not enough money to go around. There's one clause that definitely will not be added per multiple sources. Williams asked the Bears to agree to not use the franchise tag upon expiration of his rookie contract. The Bears said nay nay. Although multiple veteran players have secured such a commitment such as Dak Prescott, no rookie has finagled a promise that they won't be tagged. Has Caleb Williams put a lot of pressure on himself to perform? Well, there's plenty. I mean, you're the number one overall pick. But here's my thing with Caleb Williams that I say this to you or to Scravey? Probably Scravey. He's high maintenance and I'm kind of already over him. You know, I'm already over Caleb Williams. I would love it if we lived in it and you talk about, you know, a world where not everything was monetized. I'd also love it if we lived in a world where once in a while, a rookie would actually go out and do something before he started spouting off about how great he is or making demands on his contract. So all it is replacement did at the holiday ball touchdowns in the first game you ever stepped on the field for USA? I do remember that I was at that game. Yeah, Caleb Williams, I'm just telling you Caleb, you're making it difficult for any of us to really root for you. And maybe you don't care. But, you know, when you start making all kinds of demands before you've ever you're already comparing yourself and you're asking for things that just aren't realistic. It's going to be interesting to watch this guy during hard knocks. I must say he's on the the bears or the training camp hard knocks. I thought there was I know there were a couple at least when hard knocks came out that there were a couple of things that prevented a team from being on like if they were the recent Super Bowl champions, they didn't have to do it. Yeah, there's a bunch of things that prevent you from being I thought being I thought having a first year quarterback was a new one or was the thing also. Yeah, I don't know. I can keep track of only so many rules. I'm having trouble, you know, being a Caleb Williams fan. You know, and I'll say one thing you talked about the pressure. Here's one thing he's got pressure. He's been surrounded already with more talent than the bears have had there. And, you know, since maybe the mid 80s. I mean, they put him some big time guys around him. So he's going to have to produce right away. I don't see him being the next CJ Stroud. CJ Stroud came into the league last year for Houston. You didn't hear a peep. He just went to work and he didn't spout off. He just went to work. He did everything right. So we'll see what happens with Caleb. All right. So for the first two, we stuck with the NFL. The first one was about league value. This one is also about league value. Angel City FC is now the most valuable women's sports team in the world. Following an agreement by Willow Bay and Bob Eiger, I guess it would be to purchase a controlling stake in the National Women's Soccer League franchise at 20. Dyslexia killing me again at $250 million valuation. Good. Bay, the dean of the UFC and Burke School of Communication and Journalism and Eiger, the CEO of Walt Disney Company, will become the new majority owners of the LA based club, which pending league approval and the closing of the transaction. Does this tell you more about the NWSL's popularity or the rising cost of sports team? It tells me more about the popularity. I agree. I mean, this is really a big deal for women's professional soccer. And you know, we have our team here in San Diego. They've been in the news lately for some of the wrong reasons. I don't know if you've been reading up on all of that. And hopefully they'll get that ironed out the wave will. But it's terrific. I'm so happy for the WNBA. I'm so happy for women's professional soccer. Deep pockets are what make, you know, teams worth it and worth that kind of money. And the angel FC is the LA based team for those who don't know. And this is terrific. So yeah, just tells me that soccer is getting better and better. And women's sports, we know is on the rise. And it's not a moment too soon. Yeah, it's only going to get better, especially with the MLS team being here next winter. All right, this is the last one we're going to have time for since any Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow is hoping to represent the US in the 2028 Summer Olympics. Flag football will make its Olympic debut in LA. Burrow was hoping to participate in the action saying, quote, I really want to play for the Olympic flag football team. Like me, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, me and my friends have been out there playing football. I think it'd be really cool. Do you think the NFL teams will allow players to play flag football in the Olympics? I will borrow a phrase that you use just a little short while ago. Uh oh, nay nay. I don't know that they'll be able to keep them from it, but I know they're not going to want them to. Joe Burrow, you know, he gets hurt walking out to pick up his morning paper. You're going to be careful. Put him in a football game, even if it is flat. It's it's flag football. It's during the summer. They're not going to be playing in the pre-season anyway. Just let them go out there. Let them have fun. Let them play. It's their first time. Just do it. I'm one of the guys that believes that the the Olympics should be for amateur athletes, college kids, but just I've already lost that. Yeah, that ship sailed a long time ago. All right, good job Frank on the big four as it were today. Much more going in Chris ahead and a happy hour. Includes an old visit with Trevor Hoffman that I know you'll love. I don't want to put words in the mouth of Jim Rome, but he was talking about the second overall pick in the draft. Alex Tsar, Frank, I know you're a big NBA fan. Alex Tsar picked by the Washington Wizards. Jim Rome said they're in that little clip that it doesn't know how worthy Tsar was of being the number two overall pick. The thing he didn't mention or didn't have time to mention, they don't give him a lot of time for that. No, I've cut those things up before. It's yeah, you don't get much time. No, yeah. But the reason I think he said that Tsar last night, if you missed it in a summer league game, took 15 field goal attempts and went 0 for 15. That's a rough night for a rookie. Yeah, but you don't see too many NBA players even in the summer league game go over on 15 tries. Welcome back to Gwen and Chris. Chris Elo, big Frank is in here today as Scrappy is on the mend. Not his shoulder this time. He's just flat out been sick for a couple of days and we hope that he'll be back tomorrow. But in the meantime, big Frank's doing a whale of a job. And Tony Gwen Jr's idol. He'll be back Friday from Cleveland. That's where the Padres will send Matt Waldron to the mound against the guards to start the second half of the baseball season. One other note on that game Friday. Listen to me just he irks me. It's the Apple TV game. See the look on your face. That's what I said. The Apple TV game. Who likes it? Is there anybody out there who would rather the game be streamed on Apple than, you know, on their TV where they could just watch it or DVR it and, you know, enjoy it at their leisure. I don't think anyone likes it better because it's on Apple. Maybe there's some people that don't have, you know, cable TV and the only stream stuff. So they're happy, I guess, because they can maybe stream it. But that's got to be it. A message to all sports commissioners. Well, they're not going to listen to you. Not everything has to be about money. Not everything. Well, it's just something that wouldn't it be nice? Yeah, but the drink. Yeah, you're you're in a dream world. Oh, I know. Yeah, you are. I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong. But everything's about money. And, you know, when you when the stupid all star game runs out there in these jerseys, that's for money. Exactly. That's it. There's no other reason for it. Money, money, money. You don't have to monetize everything about every little aspect of every sport. You don't have to do it. Can't disagree with you, but not going to happen. So yeah, streaming Friday night Apple TV. Discussed. It's that time of the show when we check on the latest in sports. Only the most important topics and questions are brought to light. Stop what you're doing and listen. These news stories will astound and amaze you. The one. The only. Oh my God, who the hell cares. The big five starts now on 97th grade of fan. It's just one one last note on that. And I just said it to you. Now, while we were off with how many Apple products I've purchased, I should be able to have Apple TV for free. Dad, just give it to you on on merit. That should be done for anyone. By the way, it does not just me anyone who is bought anything is bought anyone's bought 700 Apple products in the last year. I'd be able to get the Apple games for free, but you can't. It'll cost you extra. And you have to stream it when they want you to. Yeah. And you have to watch all their stupid commercials. It's especially now with MLS. Sorry. Can't deal with it. Can't deal with the Friday night Apple games. Not happy. Especially with MLS game pass or whatever it is they are being stuck on there too. Sorry. Not for me. Number five. We hit it. We hit on this yesterday. You'd mentioned how much the the Green Bay Packers had made over the course of last year. Oh, six. Yeah, right. 650 million or apparently the number has come out today for the NFL as a whole that came out this morning. NFL teams are doing quite well for themselves monetarily. Last year, each team earned four hundred and two point three million dollars in national revenue. Is that on that? Oh, I'm just in the natural national revenue. Yeah, via pro support by via pro football talk. Those are the words now when multiplied by 32, the amount of teams there are in the league. The league made 12.873 billion dollars last year, which is a seven and a half percent increase from the previous year. Certainly good news for Roger Goodell, who's reportedly shooting for his league to bring in 25 billion dollars in national revenue by 2027. So he's got two years to make basically double what he's made. This is it just has so much and they just get more and more. Yeah. And they that's I'm glad to bring it up because it's just a reminder. It's a reminder of why you shouldn't get mad when your favorite player signs a 90 million dollar eight year contract. It's chump change for these guys and then, you know, and the national football league. So if you're going to be mad at a player from quote making too much, then be just as mad at the owners because they make more. Yeah, exactly right. It is insane. And it is it is frustrating that you show up at what so far stadium to see an NFL game. And then you pay a hundred dollars to park and they just they don't even need that. No, they don't need that money. They've already made money. Hand over. They charge you what? $30 for a beer at a football game nowadays. I don't go to it. I just why I can't stay in the NFL. Who could go who could go to an NFL football game? Realistically. I mean, it's not the NFL. It's not a posh sport like tennis. You're pricing normal people out of a normal person sport. Why is it that I and I don't mean this in any other way than to make a statement about it? But why does it seem like the guy next to me is putting on hold paying off his his energy bill so that he can afford those tickets to the game he's at too. I have not gone to an NFL game in years. And that one game I went to the tickets were given to me. I don't spend money on the NFL because I can't stand it. It's it's greed. Oh, it is so important part. The biggest part for me is it never goes away. It never has an off season. I don't need to hear the AFC South get broken down in March. I don't need to hear that. All right, Frank, let it have it off. I love the NFL. I hate the fact that they make so much money. I don't know what I can do about it, though. We're going to stick with the NFL here for this one. Number four. As the Bears and quarterback Caleb Williams haggle over the remaining language. Haggle over the remaining language in his rookie deal, because again, there's not enough money to go around. There's one clause that definitely will not be added per multiple sources. Williams asked the Bears to agree to not use the franchise tag upon expiration of his rookie contract. The Bears said nay nay. Although multiple veteran players have secured such a commitment such as Dak Prescott, no rookie has finagled a promise that they won't be tagged. Has Caleb Williams put a lot of pressure on himself to perform? Well, there's plenty. I mean, you're the number one overall pick. Yeah. But here's my thing with Caleb Williams that I say this to you or to Scravey. Probably Scravey. He's high maintenance. And I'm kind of already over him. You know, I'm already over Caleb Williams. I would love it if we lived in it and you talk about, you know, a world where not everything was monetized. I'd also love it if we lived in a world where once in a while, a rookie would actually go out and do something before he started spouting off about how great he is or making demands on his contract. Saw what his replacement did at the holiday ball. Yes. Touchdowns in the first game. You ever stepped on the field for USA? I do remember that I was at that game. Yeah, Caleb Williams. I'm just telling you Caleb, you're making it difficult for any of us to really root for you. And maybe you don't care. But, you know, when you start making all kinds of demands before you've ever seen, you're already comparing yourself. And you're asking for things that just aren't realistic. It's going to be interesting to watch this guy during hard knocks. I must say he's on the the Bears or the training camp hard knocks this year. I know there were a couple at least when hard knocks came out that there were a couple of things that prevented a team from being on. Like if they were the recent Super Bowl champions, they didn't have to do it. Yeah, there's a bunch of things that prevent you from being on. I thought being I thought having a first year quarterback was a new one or was the thing also. I don't know. I can keep track of only so many rules. But yeah, I'm having trouble, you know, being a Caleb Williams fan, you know, and I'll say one thing you talked about the pressure. Here's one thing he's got pressure. He's been surrounded already with more talent than the Bears have had there. Yeah, long time since maybe the mid 80s. I mean, they put him some big dime guys around him. So he's going to have to produce right away. I don't see him being the next CJ Sprout. CJ Sprout came into the league last year for Houston. You didn't hear a peep. He just went to work and he didn't spout off. He just went to work. He did everything right. So we'll see what happens with Caleb. All right. So for the first two, we stuck with the NFL. The first one was about league value. This one is also about league value. Angel City FC is now the most valuable women's sports team in the world following an agreement by Willow Bay and Bob Iger, I guess it would be, to purchase a controlling stake in the National Women's Soccer League franchise at 20 dyslexia killing me again at $250 million valuation. Good. Bay, the dean of the USC Annberg School of Communication and Journalism and Iger, the CEO of Walt Disney Company, will become the new majority owners of the LA based club, which pending league approval and the closing of the transaction. Does this tell you more about the NWSL's popularity or the rising cost of sports teams? It tells me more about the popularity. I agree. I mean, this is really a big deal for women's professional soccer and we have our team here in San Diego. They've been in the news lately for some of the wrong reasons. I don't know if you've been reading up on all of that and hopefully they'll get that ironed out. The wave will. But this is terrific. I'm so happy for the WNBA. I'm so happy for women's professional soccer. Deep pockets are what make teams worth it and worth that kind of money and the Angel FC is the LA based team for those who don't know. And this is terrific. So it just tells me that soccer is getting better and better. And women's sports, we know, is on the rise and it's not a moment too soon. Yeah, it's only going to get better, especially with the MLS team being here next winter. All right. This is the last one we're going to have time for since any Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow is hoping to represent the U.S. in the 2028 Summer Olympics. Flag football will make its Olympic debut in LA. Burrow is hoping to participate in the action saying, quote, I really want to play for the Olympic flag football team. Like me, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, me and my friends have been out there playing football. I think it'd be really cool. Do you think the NFL teams will allow players to play flag football in the Olympics? I will borrow a phrase that you use just a little short while ago. Oh, nay nay. I don't know that they'll be able to keep them from it, but I know they're not going to want them to. Joe Burrow, you know, he gets hurt walking out to pick up his morning paper. You got to be careful. Put him in a football game, even if it is flag. It's flag football. It's during the summer. They're not going to be playing in the preseason anyway. Just let them go out there. Let them have fun. Let them play. It's their first time. Just do it. I'm one of the guys that believes that the Olympics should be for amateur athletes, college kids, but just I've already lost that battle. Yeah, that chipsaled a long time ago. All right. Good job, Frank. 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