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7.9.24 Gwynn & Chris Hour 1: Tony's back from vacation!
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And I must be honest when I say this, my wife and I didn't really think that think about summer as we made these plans. And we happened to go the first day on the hottest day in the city's history. Wow. 125. Oh my goodness. I'm talking about plastic cups melting on top of each other. But we thugged it out, man. We had ourselves a good time for four days. It's just myself, my wife, and kids. Good. And so it was a nice reset. Didn't dawn on you that you found a hotel room really easily. Like there was no line to get hotel rooms. And every dinner reservation you made, yes, sir. We do have a table available at six o'clock and seven and eight, if you'd like. Clearly it should have. Yeah. Didn't register. Didn't register. Well, you know, you know, it's hot when, you know, the day season of cars just feeling good. All of a sudden, you got to like, you keep finding yourself turning it further, higher and colder. Yeah, colder and colder, right? Exactly. Yeah, that's that it's, you know, Palm Springs is crazy. I mean, to me, that's warm enough to where sometimes even the swimming pool isn't refreshing. Oh, no. They had a couple pools. Yeah. One of the pools was just hot. And it was like, I don't want to be in a hot pool. Right. I'm not trying to be in a spa right now. Yeah, it's no good. Were you in Palm Springs or were you like in La Quinta area? Because my grandparents had a house in La Quinta. I was in Palm desert. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yes. Desert. You're literally in a desert. Yes. But I tried to golf one day in 120. And I so wait. So apparently there's a show that my wife and my daughter watch that takes place out in Palm desert. And they made me drive them over to this area. So she can take, you know, do her little Instagram thing. You know, boy, what show is this? I got it. I got it. You know what? I'm a text my daughter right now. And I'll tell you. That's hilarious. I can imagine you being like, where am I going? Yeah, exactly. You could imagine. But I was a trooper. I was like, yes, we're on vacation. So anything you guys want to do, I'm down. And so we drove over there and she got out. Took her little pictures and then we moseied on back to the pool to the to the to the colder pool. Yeah, that's that's a tough that's a tough assignment. We went to Palm Springs. I mean, I've been there a gazillion times. My grandparents lived there when I was a kid. So I would but we would never go obviously in the month of July. But I did do a July trip to Palm Springs during the the COVID season. Oh, yeah, because it was just we had to get away, you know, and do something. And we actually did try to golf out there one day during the COVID. And it was ridiculously stupid. Chris always calls it the COVID. Yeah, I don't let me say I don't even like to think back on it. But you know, I do remember we did a Palm Springs trip just to get out of out of town for a few days. But yeah, that's that's tough. That you you definitely survived. You get a lot of a lot of brownie points for this one, Tony. Yeah, I hope so. I hope that's good for God and pretty quickly. But nonetheless, it was a it was a needed little break. And now get back to work and watching the pods who I followed I watched every game. Tell you the first two were pretty freaking amazing. It was good. Some good action there, although they lost the second one. I actually, if I'm being honest, I turned off the first one. I was like, Okay, we got this one. So did I got this one locked up. And then next time I looked at my phone like two hours a year, I was like, trying to I was genuinely confused. I was like, like what? How did this? And then, you know, obviously, I start to get back on my MLB app me and Trey start to read. We don't need we watch it the condensed version. And we see how it unfold, Manny, with his heroics at the end, get the Padres the first win of that series. And then they battled back in that second one, but look like they just could hang on. And the third one kind of got away from it. Looked like, yeah, a couple of things, you know, Tony, I think first of all, you know, the win Friday night was just yet another thrilling win. And what I think is becoming a really fun season. And we talked about that a little bit last week. I mean, the season just getting fun. I mean, they're winning in so many of these games, you know, one's more exciting than the next. I mean, you get the profile walk off game, followed a couple of days later by the, you know, profile incident and the Manny home run and the profile grand slam game. And you think that's one of the best games you've ever seen. And then Friday night happens. And, you know, of all things, Robert Suarez finally has a hiccup game, you know, which is to be, honestly, is to be expected. Yeah, it's almost impossible to just expect a guy to, you know, retire the side in order every single time out this season. But the time he doesn't do it, profile rescues him. I mean, pro far, I know, man, he's going to be the one we all remember. But, you know, profile tied it and have to tie it first. And, you know, he is having, I don't, I'm going to keep saying this because I believe it. I don't think he's the MVP of the National League. Don't get me wrong. And, you know, Tony's not going anywhere. But he's done so many MVP type things, Tony. We've seen a lot of, you know, seasons where a guy just is magic and helps his team win. And profile is doing it as much if not more than any player in baseball this year. So, yeah, he's definitely been the best Padre player. And it's, and it's really not close when you when you start to add up all those things you just mentioned. And you look at his overall numbers on the season. It's he's been the Padres best player yet teams will still walk whoever's in front of them, whether it be a rise or whoever it may be to face him. And he keeps coming through in those big spots. And it, you know, it looks different sometimes. Sometimes it's come through as a walk, an eight nine pitch walk that gets things rolling or gets things started. He's been amazing, man. I don't know that there's a, I can think of a more recent deserving All-Star and a starter who who, you know, not a reserve a guy who's going to start the All-Star game. I don't know if I can think of one who's more deserving than him in recent years. Yeah, there's a lot of good stories in the All-Star game this year. And every team probably thinks their guy is the best story. But guess what? Our guy is the best story. He just is. He's just the best story in the All-Star game this year. He's 31 years old. He's been toiling at this craft successfully and unsuccessfully for 12 years. And now it's all just happened for him. To me, that's why he is the best story. Because he's no longer an up-and-coming guy like a Jackson Meryl who got on, got into the All-Star game or like a Ellie Daela Cruz, he's up and comers. He's a dude who, you know, was a top prospect at one time, kind of fell off of that. And, you know, was starting to, to, you know, be one of those guys that bounces around from team to team. But, you know, whether it started here or not, because I think it seems like his fortune has started to change when he became a Padre, even though he went to Colorado for that brief hiatus. He is just, he's just, he's just so much fun to watch and so much fun to root for. Yeah. And I know it's on a lot of people's minds, so I'll bring it up and get your thoughts. But, I mean, what do you think they should do here between now and the end of the season with Profar? Because it just seems like it's a match made in heaven. Padre's, Profar, Profar, Padre's, but he's got to get some sort of contract for next season. And, yeah, I know that, you know, good business is, this is a tough one because the Padre's have already committed so much money to so many other guys. And I know they, they want to keep Profar badly. And I'm sure he wants to come back badly, but I'm, I'm sure he wants to come back. He's, he says he loves it here. He said this place makes him feel like home. Yeah. That being said, the finances is still the finances. There's nothing's changed since the season started. Right. And so, I mean, I think what I, what I think should happen and what is likely to happen or to do that. I think, of course, they should extend them and bring him back. He just, he just, to me, he feels like a Padre. Not even just this year alone, just the previous years he's had and the success he's had in those years in a Padre uniform. He just, it feels right. I don't know what the number is, but I think the reality is they'll probably have to write this out to the end of the year and then address it at the end of the season if they can. Because, you know, based on what we've read, what we've heard, what we, what we know, an extension depending on, I mean, what kind of, what is, how much more does this, the value does this add to pro far, having this season. Let's assume he gets through the whole season and he does a full season worth of what he's doing right now. Where does that put him? Yeah. It puts him in really good company winter and puts him in a high tax bracket is where it puts him. You and we just don't think we don't have a tight tax bracket spot available. You would think, but remember, remember the year he came off of when he went into free agency, it was at the time, I think a career year for him or one of his better seasons. And yet he had to settle for that Rockies deal that he got, which was a one year deal. So maybe the market that I hope that's is not the case for jazz and I hope he gets the bag and is able to do whatever it is that he wants to, he deserves it. But maybe the market will be of help to the Padres from that standpoint, if they, if and when that time comes at the end of the year. Yeah, it's it'll be interesting, but it's going to, I mean, his price tag is going to go way up when Rob Manfred is walking around with the microphone and the World Series trophy and going, I mean, I mean, if that is the case, the Padres to their own championship. If he leaves a Padres to a championship, it would be really hard to let him walk out there at that point. I know, I know. That would be extremely hard. Well, we can dream about it. And he's, he's given us reason to dream. By the way, he's performed. You will our fans drop the postseason with a great performance, with a great performance. I want to just drop the entire conversation every time that it takes too long because he's drunk. He's not drunk. I know. I titled that drunk Rob Manfred. That is so funny. Yeah, the other thing to speak in a dream in the Tony and going back to Saturday nights game a little bit when they were down seven to four and then they come up in the bottom of the 10th inning and they go single double and runs in and the tying runs are on base and then, you know, works out to where Higash yoga comes up with the bases loaded at the end. I was honestly thinking he was probably going to hit a grand slam because that's just the way the season's been going. And, you know, this is the one time he fly, you know, a fly out because it's not easy to just get a walk off on command like that. But the Padres have had so many of them that it wouldn't have surprised me if he would have done something dramatic there. And, you know, unfortunately, it didn't work out. And now they have a little losing streak to deal with. And they have a tough customer to deal with tonight because Logan Gilbert, don't be fooled out there by the record. He's five and five. But in 18 starts this year, he's had 14 quality starts. That is one of the highest percentages in all baseball. So he's almost guaranteed based on that to give Seattle six seven innings, two or three runs, which means Maiser and the Padres are going to have to counter. So I'll read you a note from the Mariners notes. It's just titled the Friars. It says, it just starts with has it's referring to Logan, Logan Gilbert has made two starts in both of the last two seasons against the Padres. And each of the four starts, he has gone at least five innings and allowed one or less earned runs. He said he says career high with 12 strikeouts last year on August 8 against the Padres at T mobile. Padres hitters that have faced Gilbert previously are batting 146 seven for 48 against them one homerun 11 strikes. Now that being said, and I only reason why I brought this up was because I plan to use it today when I'm doing TV on the TV side. Okay, this is a different offense, a different style offense than Logan has faced in the last really all four starts that he's made against the Padres. It's a different, different approach to hitting. And so I'm I'm excited about the matchup today because I want to see because Logan Gilbert has shoved against us the past four starts. It hasn't been a fun game to watch. I will remember the one in Seattle didn't go well. That being said, I think this is a different offense and I'm interested to see what kind of how much pressure they can put on Gilbert when because when this offense is going the way we've seen it go, it's taxing. Well, it'll be the challenge at hand tonight. I think it'd be a good game. Yeah, I know everybody's already. We don't have to hype it Tony. You don't have to hype any game between the Padres and the Mariners. The geographic rivalry. Come on, man. Oh, man. Yeah, this is it speaks for itself. USC UCLA, you know, Red Sox, Yankees, Mariners, Padres goes right there with all the rest of them. So the hype is there. It's real. All right, let's get to break when we return. Zander Bogart's could be on his way back and pretty shortly. We'll explain it on the other side. We all belong outside. We're drawn to nature, whether it's the recorded sounds of the ocean we doze off to or the succulents that adorn our homes. Nature makes all of our lives well better. Despite all this, we often go about our busy lives removed from it. But the outdoors is closer than we realize. With all trails, you can discover trails nearby and explore confidently. With offline maps and on trail navigation, download the free app today and make the most of your summer with all trails. Temp check. What kind of summer are we having this year? A family road trip summer, a beach bump summer, or a wake me when the sun's set summer? 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Join the countless others who do it anytime, anywhere, and transform your skin. Visit dermaclara.com today and say goodbye to wrinkles and hello to beautiful radiant skin. Welcome back to 21 is the time Chris Elo here, Tony Gwen Jr. there. He's at Petco Park tonight, Padre's Mariners. I know everybody calls it the Eddie Vedder cub, but I can't get behind that. Nothing against Eddie Vedder. I just don't get the whole Mariner Padre rivalry. I think the fact that Chris, Chris, no, Chris, no one there. All right, thank you. No, you're not alone. None of us, like the players don't understand it, right? I mean, everybody's like, Oh, you're playing the Padres. So, you know, we almost had to just we almost just had to pretend that it was real because we were left with this lonely thing we got. Yeah, right. I mean, I'll give you the fact that they share a spring training complex, but that's to me, that's as far as it goes. They're both in the Pacific time zone, but that's over the Rockies and the Diamondbacks that doesn't make them rivals. No, better rivals. Yes. Before we go too much further, shout out to Ashley out there who was on the on the on the chat, the YouTube YouTube chat. If you're not watching on the show and you you'd like to go to YouTube search 97 through the fan, you can watch. But Ashley is a transplanted sports fan from Detroit. You had to go back to Detroit. Yeah, back to Detroit transplant from here to Detroit and wants to catch up and keep up. So, Ashley, thank you for, you know, joining us out in San Diego. We miss you, but we'll give you all the Lions coverage we can once we get to that point. Yeah, will we? No, yes, because I like her head coach. We love the kneecap cannibal around here. All right. Yes, we should we should do what do our very best get consistent Detroit coverage, but you know, every week they play. We'll talk about them at that. You know, welcome everyone in Chris before we get to anything else. The Lions taking on the Seahawks this week. We have it two years ago, whether the Panthers or somebody. I think they've tried to follow somebody. I did that a long time ago. On another station in a in a galaxy far away, the Padres were having a really, really bad year. And I asked the fans if we should adopt a team and who to vote for. And they voted for the Rays. And we got their play by play guy on and we made him kind of a regular guest and we followed him. And it was the year they went to the World Series against the Phillies. Oh, and everybody kind of got in on it was kind of interesting. Actually, kind of interesting. Fortunately, we don't need to do that because our Padres are relevant enough on their own. You know, I will say this one thing before we move on from Ashley's comment. Yeah, we don't normally talk about teams that lose double digit point leads in the NFC championship. Listen to this. Since you brought it up. That was a cold-blooded strike. I'm glad you brought it up. You know, I was thinking about this today came up. I was at the barbershop and usually where these topics come up is at the barbershop. It cracks me up that he goes to the barbershop. But I guess that's okay. It's more about community than anything. Listen, my head has to, it can't take too much of me shaving it without it inflaming with all kinds of hair bumps. So I go to a professional. Okay. Most of the time. Fair enough. So I was thinking about this day's great. Brock Purdy. Yes. He's going to need to get paid here. What, another year? Yep. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What's to stop your head coach from thinking, "Huh, I drafted a quarterback at the last pick. Why can't I do it again?" There's nothing to stop from doing that. And you know what that means? That, that is where you get the, you know what, Brock, this is what we're going to offer you. And this is our final offer because we can go draft another quarterback. We did it with you. We turned you into a possible MVP candidate. So we're not going to offer you. Really? So you're selling me coach Shanahan. So you're selling, you're selling me the 49ers should offer Brock Purdy like the minimum when it's his turn. I'm just saying they should be able to shave corners a little bit. They, they got the, they got the leverage at this point. Here's what I know about Kyle Shanahan. And Tony, you're not wrong. Kyle Shanahan did something like trade. Every single draft pick they had for Trey Lance and said he was the next coming of the best quarterback of all time. He did. And then he got rid of him faster than he could ever get rid of him for a six round pick. So Kyle Shanahan will bury that knife in your back when he doesn't just saying everybody got to get paid at some point. And we know once the quarterback gets paid team suffers, unless you were Tom Brady giving up boatloads of cash, the rest of the team is going to suffer. Brock Purdy is a good guy though. I think he would take veteran minimum for us. Yeah, we're about to find out how good of a guy Brock Purdy is. True. I promise you. True. I digress. No, no, you didn't digress at all. We're always, we may not be always open for Lions talk, but we are always open for 49 or talk. All right, Xander Bogart's the latest doesn't sound like it's going to be too much longer before Xander is back. Scrabby, do you have an update for us? Yeah, I got a little update. All right. Courtney Kevin A.C. the pier Xander Bogart remains on track to return for the final series before the all-star break. Really? This weekend. Yes, we'll likely face live pitching ironically, or maybe not. He got hurt against the Braves. That's who will be in town when he comes back this weekend. Now, he's supposed to face live pitching here at Peko Park and playing a game or two just up the street at leg Elsono. So if it all goes well, Friday will be his return day. Well, you know, we should be happy about that. Shouldn't we? I mean, I only say it that way because I know there's a bunch of grumbling fans out there. Well, here's the question. I'm trying to blame everything that negative that's ever happened on the Padres on Xander Bogart's, including, you know, the fact that the team had to, you know, move from Qualcomm Stadium somehow was his fault. Here's the question from Friday because he's coming back. As we said, where does Donovan Slano go? Where does David Proul to go? Where does he fit in this lineup? Because you're not going to leave him on the bench. You're going to put him back in there and Solano's hitting so well. Chris said Solano's the odd man out of everything. So he's going to go back to being a bench piece of pinch hitter. He's going to serve the role that basically Tyler wait serves from the left right handed side. You know, there's going to be up because the tough part is they got a boatload. When I say a boatload, they got a boatload of infielders. And so, Crohn slides back to first, I assume. Arise now is your DH. You got Bogey at second. You got Kim at short. You got Manny. Now Manny's going to need some days off his feet at third. What happens then? I think a rise probably gets some put some play on the on the infield. Left handed pitching, they may give, you know, Crohn a day off here and there. But there ain't going to be a lot of space. It's going to take really a DH spot. Somebody at first getting a day off or Manny getting a day off for Solano to be in the lineup. I would also, you know, think it's not impossible for at this point because he really hasn't had a light, you know, light up the night season for Hassan Kim to get a day off or two. Oh yeah. And put Bogey to shortstop. Is that going to cause a problem since they had to move from short to second? Is he going to be, you know, is there going to be a seamless thing for him to go back to shortstop or would they put Jake at shortstop and rest? Hassan Kim? They got options that short. I mean, Jake can play it. Bogey can play it. Jackson Merrill can play it for him. They got a boatload of options for being on it. Speaking of which, I think the live hitting is about to take place here shortly. Oh, a Zander. Yeah, Zander's got the helmet on. He got the bat on. I'm trying to figure out who's throwing. I am. Oh, somebody's getting loose down in the, he might have brought somebody. Huh. Some, some, some of the minor. So how does a live ending work, Tony? Real quick. They set the cage up the shell, but they don't have it over. They kind of have it in the background and catch any balls that may get away. Sometimes the pen, I mean, most of the pitchers hate to have that L screen there if they're going to have live pitching. So doesn't look like they're going to have it right now is going to be live pitching. You're just not running. Everything is real. No umpires. No running. That's where they should have all of us go down there and call balls and strikes. But wait a second, but but Zander's the batter for every spot in the lineup. Yes. Got it. Okay. So he gets to make three outs basically. I don't need it. They, they probably will take it in at bats. So, you know, who haven't at bat, take a break, having it bat, take it because you got to remember the pitcher, you know, they can't have him out there just being a human pitching machine. He actually got to take his time. They got to treat it like a, the treat it like as close to as, as simulated as possible. There you go. There you go. The very latest when we come back, we'll slip a Padre lineup in for you. And we'll talk about the rival Mariners a little bit more in depth. Ryan Dibish Seattle times stops by for a visit as Gwen and Chris rolls on 237 on the clock. Ryan Dibish Seattle times will join us shortly. Break down this mariner team that at one point seemed to be running away with the American League West. That is no longer the case. The Houston Astros have, I wouldn't even say they've caught fire. There are two games above 500 and they've closed that at one point. I think it was a 10 game lead to down to two Mariners were 44 and 31 Tony on June 18th. So that's less than a month ago. Since then the Mariners have gone five and 12 and that has opened the door for the Astros to get back in the running. And a lot of people think the Mariners are going to really be kicking themselves when it's all said and done because they they had a chance to kind of put right behind. They didn't quite do it. This is a team that last year was 88 and 74. They were 14 games over 500 not in the playoffs. The Arizona Diamondbacks were like four games over 500 and went to the World Series. Like that's not fair, but that's how it works out sometimes. So the irony though is that that Diamondbacks team did end up losing to the team that beat out the Mariners in that division in the Texas Rangers. But you're right. I think most people have seen the Mariners over the last three years realize it's a very good team but also realizes they haven't done anything to prove that you should believe them when they get into a league. Because I don't know that even as they were 10 games up anybody actually counted the Astros out and here we are about to hit the break and the Astros are two games behind and they got a few more matches. See you know this I'm sorry I'm going to digress a little bit here. This is why I like the heavy-handed scheduling of your division versus what we have now. The Padres don't play the Dodgers again at home. All season their next time they play the Dodgers will be in September at L.A. Like that's crazy to me. Yeah you're seven eight games out you don't have a chance from one of the series in the middle of the summer right to you know make up a bunch of ground yeah or vice versa the other two can put you away but yes there's not enough inter-division games anymore because of this schedule agreed but there are still plenty of games against the Mariners so we got that which is a perfect segue into our guests. Ryan Divis Seattle Times joins us here on Gwen and Chris Ryan how's your day how you enjoying San Diego? Oh loving it you know back home in Seattle it's 95 and they don't handle heat there well they don't handle well they don't handle excessive heat a lot of places don't have air conditioning up there so you know I'm enjoying my Marriott lifestyle in this nice 80 degree weather here in San Diego like I don't know why anybody would want me. Yeah listen the Marriott lifestyle can be nice especially when you got some AC that can control everything I just I just experienced that a little bit myself Ryan I want to ask you a little bit about this ball club about I'd say a little bit about a month ago this team looked like it could run and hide in the in the American League West that has not been the case this team has struggled a little bit the lead they had that was once ten dwindled down to two what what has happened in that span of time with this Mariners ball club. Yeah they got a hit in the face by a big slap of reality they realize that if you average free runs a game no matter how good your starting rotation is it's not just sustainable to keep winning baseball games at the big league level I mean they're starting rotation's been outstanding all year so I think they they're first or second in quality starts you know they go out they get you six almost every day but you know when you when you struggle to score four runs in a game and it's an ordeal score four runs and even in modern baseball we're batting averages down and strikeouts are up and everybody's relying on the whole runs you got to find a way to get four and I mean for the Mariners it's just difficult to do it at times. Ryan I want to talk about well let's talk about Logan Gilbert first he's pitching tonight and he's had really good success against the Padres you talked about quality starts I think he's got 14 out of 18 so it's almost every time out yet he's only got five wins which speaks to what you're saying about this offense does the offense simply well I asked about Logan Gilbert so let's stay there how good is this guy and how how good should he be if he was getting support yeah I mean like you look at it there's you know in all those qualities starts I think there's four or five no decisions and like three losses where he gave it to the losses he gave up two runs and they lost yeah it's uh he's been outstanding so he he was a guy that they drafted in the first round and you look at him and while I will you know as a former college catcher I will say that no pitcher is athletic ever he really doesn't look athletic in anyway he's six foot seven kind of walks on his toes you know I mean but he's got the longest arms I've ever seen he's got the biggest hands I've ever seen like a baseball looks like a golf ball in his hands and he's kind of with the modern pitcher is and like you know he's got the water ball the med ball the weighted bag all that stuff that he does in between starts and warming up like Paul skiing you know he's gone to a pitching guru since he was 14 years old or 13 years old like how to build all the stuff and he's also a guy that like continues to like monitor all the data so he understands spin rates pitch shaping all the tunneling aspects and what he does is he'll just continue to add to his repertoire when he first came up he threw a four-seam fastball 70 for 70 percent of the time he had a slider curve ball and change it we no longer has a change it just got splitter got it you got two-seamer four-seamer he's got a cutter slider curve ball you know he's got everything because he continues to add because like as he said you got to keep adding you got to keep adding to try and combat these hitters so you know that's he's kind of evolved and that's what made him good that's kind of like lifted him into the alter status is he continues to add pitches and shape refine his repertoire so like he's not getting beat up by left-handed pitchers or he's not getting beat up for homers you know he found ways to adjust to what hitters are doing to them first of all Ryan you and I subscribe to the same thought in terms of pitchers and never being athletes they will tell you hey hey hey hey hey hey we'll tell you differently all of them will but I want to I want to pin you down on on on Logan a little bit because he is getting better it seems like I've seen him the past I've seen all starts against the Padres he's been dominant in all but it seems like this year he has taken another step forward he's an all-star this year is that in part because he keeps adding to his repertoire is it that simple yeah I mean like it's you know the splitter especially because he didn't have a change-up so you know you get that splitter which is like kind of the new pitch coming back I think all the Mariners are doing it so he has the splitter and it it it changes the eye level because it's on multiple planes y'all it's got I think it's an 84 so you're you're talking about the the good V-load difference and you know it has a lot of movement and you got to have that against lefties I mean it seems to just load up with lefties against him he didn't have a way to combat it you know change kind of the plane on the slider a little bit all the stuff they continue to evolve and what it really does is he doesn't have patterns you know he's not predictable you can go anywhere anyway and he's shown a willingness to throw any of them again you know like she said starts this year where he's throwing his fastball 25% of the time you know two years ago it was 75% of the time yeah that's a big change in the mentality you know these guys go up you know pumping heaters by guys at the double layer level and thinking that's what it takes but that's what's going to make you good and when you get there and you realize oh this doesn't happen I mean look at Chris paddock you guys remember that yeah they catch up to the fastball good hitters will find a way to hit that fastball so how do you combat it and that's what he's done Ryan Divish Seattle Times is with us uh Ryan I want to ask about Julio Rodriguez so it's kind of where I was headed last question before I pulled myself back to where I wanted to be uh 16 games uh one home run one RBI that's unbelievable for a guy of his stature it's got only 30 RBIs this season he's only hitting 247 his on base is under 300 I'm telling you things you already know his OPS is a paltry 632 this is Julio Rodriguez now he gets a quad injury Saturday gets a plate apparent Sunday uh what's the latest with him and what's been wrong with him uh well I expect him to play I don't know if he'll start today but I expect him to play in this series the quad injury wasn't too serious that they saw it anyways it's more precautionary um and I think it's smart he didn't try and push it and hurt himself as far as the bat I don't know if there's what you know it's it's been a lot of things it's been approached it's been swing changes uh that he made in the offseason that didn't manifest in the success and you know and it's all kind of just multiplied so like he this offseason he he changed up the load in his swing a little bit he's less legs um is real but it was really static looking and they you know like the idea of going back to get forward as as you guys know this guy has a statue would like to say you need to get in a good athletic position and get a good pitch to hit Julio was doing neither he was he's the best athlete on the team and he looked at least athletic in the box and so they've been trying to get back to maybe what he was doing before but you know it just hasn't synced up and then part of the problem with that too is that they attacked him like he attacked all right-handed power hitters pound him inside with fast balls and thinkers and then go soft away soft away soft away until he chased and he would chase because he's a guy that put up numbers is you know it's first two years and when you aren't putting up numbers and you don't understand why you just keep swinging and swinging more and you're playing right into their hands so he's kind of gotten better with his approach um at times sometimes the moment gets a little big for him you know he's 23 still but uh he'll still get a little swing happy they brought in his in the mares basically called his personal hitting coach that he works within the offseason a guy out of Tampa flew him in for this last homestead was nine days they were out there every day because the hitting coach was like well we need something you know something's got a something's got to get better so they brought him in and it looked better you get a homer had a double and then he got hurt um but he's really just been kind of late with his timing late on the fastball and then when you're late on the fastball you're just not hitting good fast balls you're missing him put you in a bad position for breaking pitches so if he plays that's something you want to watch is just kind of see where his timing's like if he you know they're what they're trying to just um in part on him is that it's okay to get started early get started early get your foot down and get in a position to hit the ball because before it was like everything was trying to go at the same time and he would follow so we'll see if it happens um but i know this much if they if he doesn't get going he doesn't kind of you know he's not going to get his normal numbers but if he doesn't start being more productive he came on go anywhere because for a bad offensive team as it is and when he's not going there they're a horrible offensive team it's every players kryptonite trying to get more after i mean two really good seasons um tried to win the swing change and it seems like it hasn't caught around i gotta ask first of all i've been pretty impressed but you break down of a lot of these dudes man have you heard you're on it um i gotta ask you i mean this offense has never been like a juggernaut by any stretch but they had pockets where they could put up runs i mean you start going through the numbers it seems like everybody is having a down year offensively i mean what what has been the conversation around the offense as a whole i know you mentioned they haven't been able to score runs but they they were pretty content with this group coming in why have they performed so poorly offensively i mean like they strike out at just an alarming rate back to that 32 i think uh the time and you know and really a lot of the strikeouts aren't even about the swings on strike three they're missing a lot of fastballs in the zone early you know filing them off not doing damage but you know they went out and they had some payroll issues you know similar to pottery you got to maneuver some stuff so they made some trades moved some money around they go out and add Mitch Garver on a free agent sign and then they trade for Mitch Hanniger to come back and he's had success in Seattle and trades for Jorge Polanco whose former all-stars always kind of put up numbers if he's healthy no those guys have been any good i mean like you look at the Mariners offense they only have one player with an OPS over 750 hence Luke Rayleigh progressive them are all below Ty France's struggle got hurt struggle Julio struggled JP Crawford after a year where he hit 270 had about a 390 400 on base percentage struggling you know they they've had the collective struggles of this team have been just unreal you know they've already fired Brant Brown who they hired to be kind of their offensive coordinator hitting coach i mean like everybody wants the other hitting coaches fired but i think it's just it's just kind of a mast on them guys are struggled at the same time and everybody's trying to figure it out and a lot of them have just tried to hit their way out of it i think sometimes when you in MLB when you want to get more hits you need to swing less and they they haven't really proven they can do that yet and so until they do i mean like everybody's talking about the trade deadline and they need to add bad you can go out in Luis Robert but if these other guys don't hit it'll just be what Luis Robert hit me nobody else because like really right now you look at it i you know Cal Raleigh has been really good late in games they know it's at Homer's but you know 210 batting average and strike it out at 35 percent so they don't they just don't have any sort of consistency in terms of 237 on the clock Brian Divish Seattle Times will join us shortly break down this mayor and her team that at one point seem to be running away with the American League West that is no longer the case the Houston Astros have i wouldn't even say they've caught fire there are two games above 500 and they've closed that at one point i think it was a 10 game lead yeah to down to two mariners were 44 and 31 Tony on June 18th so that's less than a month ago since then the mariners have gone five and twelve yeah and that has opened the door for the Astros to get back in the running and a lot of people think the mariners are going to really be kicking themselves when it's all said and done because they they had a chance to kind of put Houston high right beyond they didn't quite do it this is a team that last year was 88 and 74 they were 14 games over 500 not in the playoffs the Arizona Diamondbacks were like four games over 500 and went to the World Series right like that's not fair but that's how it works out sometimes so the irony though is that that Diamondbacks team did end up losing to the team that beat out the mariners in that division yeah right in the Texas Rangers but you're right i think most people have seen the mariners over the last three years realize it's a very good team but also realizes they haven't done anything to prove that you should believe them when they get into a league because i don't know that even as they were 10 games up anybody actually counted the Astros out and here we are about to hit bit the break and the Astros are two games behind and they got a few more matches see and you know this i'm sorry i'm going to digress a little bit here this is why i like the heavy-handed scheduling of your division versus what we have now the Padres don't play the the Dodgers again at home all see their next time they play the Dodgers will be in September at LA like that's crazy to me yeah your seven eight games out you don't have a chance from one of the series in the middle of the summer right to you know make up a bunch of ground yeah or vice versa the other two can put you away but yes there's not enough inter-division games anymore because of this schedule agreed but there are still plenty of games against the Mariners so if there is a deep which is a perfect segue into our guests Ryan Divis Seattle Times joins us here on Gwen and Chris Ryan how's your day how you enjoy in San Diego oh loving it uh you know back home in Seattle it's 95 and they don't handle heat there well they don't handle the well they don't handle excessive heat a lot of places don't have air conditioning up there so you know i'm enjoying my Marriott lifestyle in this nice 80 degree weather here in San Diego like i don't know why anybody would want me yeah listen the Marriott lifestyle can be nice especially when you got some AC that can control everything i just i just experienced that a little bit myself Ryan i want to ask you a little bit about this ball club about i'd say a little bit about a month ago this team looked like it could run and hide in the in the American League West that has not been the case this team has struggled a little bit the lead they had that was once ten dwindled down to two what what has happened in that span of time with this Mariners ball club yeah they got a hit in the face by a big flop of reality um they realize that if you average free runs a game no matter how good your starting rotation is it's not sustainable to keep winning baseball games at the big league level i mean they're starting rotation has been outstanding all year so i think they they're first or second in quality starts you know they go out they get you six almost every day but you know when you struggle to score four runs in a game and it's an ordeal of score four runs and even in modern baseball where batting averages down and strikeouts are up and everybody's relying on the whole runs you got to find a way to get four and i mean for the Mariners it's just difficult to do it at times ryan uh i want to talk about uh well let's talk about logan gilbert first he's pitching tonight and he's had really good success against the Padres you talked about quality starts i think he's got 14 out of 18 so it's almost every time out yet he's only got five wins which speaks to what you're saying about this offense does the offense simply well i asked about logan gilbert so let's stay there uh how good is this guy and how how good should he be if he was getting support yeah i mean like you look at it there's you know in all those qualities start they think there's four or five no decisions and like three losses where he gave two of the losses he gave up two runs and they lost um yeah it's uh he's been outstanding so he he was a guy that they drafted in the first round and you look at him and while i will you know as the former college catcher i will say that no pitcher is athletic ever he really doesn't look athletic in any way anyway he six foot seven kind of walks on his toes you know i mean but he's got the longest arms i've ever seen he's got the biggest hands i've ever seen like a baseball looks like a golf ball in his hands and he's kind of what the modern picture is and like you know he's got the water ball the med ball the weighted bags all that stuff that he does in between starts and warming up like Paul skiing you know he's gone to a pitching guru since he was 14 years old or 13 years old like how to build all this stuff and he's also a guy that like continues to like monitor all the data so he understands spin rates pitch shaping all the tunneling aspects and what he does is he'll just continue to add his repertoire when he first came up he threw a 14 basketball 73 70 percent of the time he had a slider curveball and change it we no longer have the change it just got splitter got it you got two femur four femur he's got a cutter slider curveball you know he's got everything because he continues bad because like as he said you got to keep adding you got to keep adding to try and combat these hitters so you know that he's kind of evolved and that's what made him good that's kind of like lifted him into the all-star status is he continues to add pitches and refine his repertoire so like he's not getting beat up by left-handed pitchers or he's not getting beat up for homers you know he's found ways to adjust to what hitters are doing to him first of all Ryan you and I subscribe to the same thought in terms of pitchers and never being athletes they will tell you hey hey hey hey we'll tell you differently all of them will but I want to I want to pin you down on on on Logan a little bit because he is getting better it seems like I've seen him the past I've seen all starts against the Padres he's been dominant in all but it seems like this year he has taken another step forward he's an all-star this year is that in part because he keeps adding to his repertoire is it that simple yeah I mean like it's you know just splitter especially because he didn't have a change-up so you know you get that splitter which is like kind of the new pitch coming back I think all the Mariners are doing it so he has the splitter and it it's it changes the eye level because it's on multiple planes y'all it's got I think it's at 84 so you're you're talking about the the good uh below difference and you know it has a lot of movement and you got to have that against lefties I mean it seems to just load up with lefties against them he didn't have a way to combat it you know change kind of the plane on the slider a little bit all the stuff they continue to evolve and what it really does is he doesn't have patterns you know he's not predictable you can go anywhere anyway and he's showing a willingness to throw any of them again you know like she said starts this year where he's thrown his fastball 25 percent of the time you know two years ago it was 75 percent of the time yeah that's a big change in the mentality you know these guys go up you know pumping heaters by guys at the double layer level and thinking that's what it takes but that's what's gonna make you good and when you get there and you realize oh this doesn't happen I mean look at Chris Paddick you guys remember that yeah they catch up to the fastball good hitters will find a way to hit that fastball so how do you combat it and that's what he's done Ryan Divish Seattle Times is with us uh Ryan I want to ask about Julio Rodriguez that's kind of where I was headed last question before I pulled myself back to where I wanted to be 16 games uh one home run one RBI that's unbelievable for a guy of his stature he's got only 30 RBIs this season he's only hitting 247 his on base is under 300 I'm telling you things you already know his OPS is a paltry 632 this is Julio Rodriguez now he gets a quad injury Saturday gets a plate apparent Sunday what's the latest with him and what's been wrong with him uh well I expect him to play I don't know if they'll start today but I expect him to play in the series the quad injury wasn't too serious that they saw it anyways it's more precautionary um and I think it's smart he didn't try and push it and hurt himself as far as the bat I don't know if there's what you know it's it's been a lot of things it's been approached it's been swing changes uh that he made in the offseason that didn't manifest in the success and you know and it's all kind of just multiplied so like he this offseason he he changed up the load and his swing a little bit he's less legs um is real but it was really static looking and they you know like the idea of going back to get forward as as you guys know this guy has a statue would like to say you need to get in a good athletic position and get a good pitch to hit Julio was doing neither he was he's the best athlete on the team and he looked at least athletic in the box and so they've been trying to get back to maybe what he was doing before but you know it just hasn't synced up and then part of the problem with that too is that they attacked him like he attacked all right-handed power hitters pound him inside with fast balls and sinkers and then go soft away soft away soft away until he chased and he would chase because he's a guy that put up numbers is you know it's first two years and when you aren't putting up numbers and you don't understand why you just keep swinging and swinging more and you're playing right into their hands so he's kind of gotten better with his approach um at times sometimes the moment gets a little big for him you know he's 23 still but uh he'll still get a little swing happy they brought in his in the mares basically called his personal hitting coach that he works within the offseason a guy out of Tampa flew him in for this last homestead was nine days they were out there every day because the hitting coach was like well we need something you know something's got a something's got to get better so they brought him in and it looked better you get a homer had a double and then he got hurt um but he's really just been kind of late with his timing late on the fast ball and then when you're late on the fast ball you're just not hitting good fast balls you're missing him put you in a bad position for breaking pitches so if he plays that's something you want to watch is just kind of see where his timing's like if he you know they're what they're trying to just um in part on him is that it's okay to get started early get started early get your foot down and get in a position to hit the ball because before it was like everything was trying to go at the same time and he would fall over so we'll see if it happens um but i know this much if they if he doesn't get going he doesn't kind of you know he's not going to get his normal numbers but if he doesn't start being more productive he came won't go anywhere because whole bot offensive team as it is and when he's not going there they're a horrible offensive team it's every players kryptonite trying to get more after i mean two really good seasons um tried to win the swing change and it seems like it hasn't caught around i gotta ask first of all i've been pretty impressed but you break down a lot of these dudes nanny you've got anything on it um i gotta ask you i mean this offense has never been like a juggernaut by any stretch but they had pockets where they could put up runs i mean you start going through the numbers it seems like everybody is having a down year offensively i mean what what has been the conversation around the offense as a whole i know you mentioned they haven't been able to score runs but they they were pretty content with this group coming in why have they performed so poorly offensively i mean like they strike out at just an alarming rate back to that 32 i think uh the time and you know and really a lot of the strikeouts aren't even about the swings on strike three they're missing a lot of fastballs in the zone early you know found them off not doing damage but you know they went out and they had some payroll issues you know similar to pottery you got to maneuver some stuff so they made some trades move some money around they go out and add Mitch Garver on a free agent's sign and then they trade for mechanical to come back and he did success in Seattle and trade for Jorge Polanco whose former all-stars always kind of put up numbers if he's healthy none of those guys have been any good i mean like you look at the Mariners offense they only have one player with an ops over 750 hits Luke Rayleigh progressive them are all below Ty Francis struggle got hurt struggle Julio struggled JP Crawford after a year where you hit 270 had about a 390 400 on base percentage struggling you know they they've had the collective struggles of this team have been just unreal you know they've already fired brent brown who they hired to be kind of their offensive coordinator hitting coach i mean like everybody wants the other hitting coaches fired but i think it's just it's just kind of a mast on them guys are struggled at the same time and everybody's trying to figure it out and a lot of them have just tried to hit their way out of it i think sometimes when you in MLB when you want to get more hits you need to swing less and they they haven't really proven they can do that yet and so until they do i mean like everybody's talking about the trade deadline and they need to add bad you can go out and Luis Robert but if these other guys don't hit it'll just be what Luis Robert hitting it nobody else because like really right now you look at it i you know Cal Raleigh has been really good late in games they know it's at homers but you know 210 batting average and strike it out at 35% so they don't they just don't have any sort of consistency in terms of results like it's it's a struggle for them to put two hits or three hits in an inning together sorry to hear that and hopefully it won't pick up until you guys leave town but uh Ryan David's Seattle Times great stuff i got another minute left Ryan if you can sneak in the trade that took place a couple years ago around these parts that sent Austin Nola here and Munoz and France and others there has never really been looked upon too happily here how about in Seattle i know you said Ty was struggling a bit he's our Aztec guy Munoz with the closer 14 saves i'm assuming they still feel that was a success oh yeah i mean because like everybody kind of knew that Austin there was a shelf life and how how successful he could be because he got beat up so much he was older and i think Munoz has just been outstanding you know they locked him up to a long-term deal and really if you look at it how do you not strain his back a little bit in that game in Oakland covering home he would probably be an all-star um and he still could be i mean but you know he's just dominant when he gets in there he's got the slider out of the two-seam or at 99 miles an hour and just a good guy so you know even if they just get under his Munoz out of that deal they'll keep him it'll be pretty happy out of that trade you know if Ty France is gone and then you got to remember too there was that other trade for a player to be named later named Matt brash who's had TJ this year but you know Taylor Williams for Matt brash and you get you know brash at Tommy John this year but last year you know he had a he was striking out batters at a 40% rate and he'll be back in a year and backs on a hundred and with a nasty slider so they paid it okay in those deals i mean they've had some other trades that haven't been good but those ones have worked out okay yeah losing Munoz hurt my soul for sure you you saw that one comment when when that one was to happen uh Ryan man great work man appreciate you coming on spizz sometime i'm sure i'll connect with you here today at the field but i appreciate you coming on today no problem take it easy guys good stuff Ryan Ryan divis Seattle Times fantastic work there on Gwen and Chris and uh yeah yeah yeah usually i have to ask you stuff but this time you know he covered for us that was good he 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