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7.2.24 Gwynn & Chris Hour 1: Padres in Texas to take on the Rangers
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Begin their three-game set against the Texas Rangers here tonight. 605, I believe, my, excuse me, no, 705, my time, 505, I believe out there in San Diego. Chris, how's your day to name one, man? Looking forward to, you know, it's so weird, Tony, when you play baseball every day. I know that, I know that a day off is like heaven sent for those of you that are, you know, with the team and traveling and, you know, getting ready every day and, you know, going back to your hotel and getting ready the next day. But for the rest of us, a day off is kind of stinks. I mean, we're so used to having a game to watch every single day. And, you know, yesterday baseball not only, you know, had the Padres off, they had almost everybody off. They made me watch the Rockies and Brewers last night. It was the only game I could find, but yeah, I watched that too. Yeah, and it was an okay game for, you know, what it was, but yeah, I mean, it's so weird when you're used to playing every day, but, you know, I think obviously the Padres are going to have more days off than anybody else. The rest of the way, they've played more games. So, you know, a little refreshed and hopefully go right back, pick up where they left off in Boston. Yeah, no, no, I'm not a lie, because I'm doing the show from my room. Yeah, I need to get out of this bad boy. I've been stuck in this room that this, that off they couldn't have ended like any faster. I've been counting down the time to this 330 bus that's coming around here quick. And so I kind of have the same feeling. I don't normally have that, but I just have got a little. I have, I will tell you, Tony, when it comes to all-time laziest human being, I think I've set a few records through the years on off days. I really do because I know exactly what you're saying. I mean, you know, with the, I think of Anchorage, Alaska, more than anything else, when I would travel with the gulls and, you know, when they would play up there, they would play three or four games before, you know, because it was such a long road trip. So we ended up staying up there for a week sometimes and playing three games, which meant they were three or four days off. And I can only take so many triple features at the Anchorage movie house. And I'm going to admit to this, but I'm probably like everybody else. I mean, I would go to those, you know, those cinema plexes in Anchorage and- Did you, were you in the 1930s when you went to Anchorage? What do you mean? They don't- What is the cinema plex? I don't know. It's a movie place with a bunch of different theaters. What do you call it? What has it changed names? I have never seen two theaters even close enough to be even in a plex. Have you not been to Fashion Valley where there's 21 theaters? Have you been to Mission Valley where there's 18 theaters? Have you just- I guess- That's where the plexes. I got you. I got you. Yeah. I don't know what you- I think that's- I think we would just- I think Scrabe and I would just call that a movie theater. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I'm gonna get to this one. Fine. I would go to the movie theater. I would get there at about 12 o'clock. I would buy the huge free refill popcorn. Wow. And I would go- Hang on. I would go in and see the first movie. Then when the movie was over, I would, you know, dutifully walk out of the theater. Always seem to have to go to the restroom for some reason at that point. Then come out of the restroom fresh, go back, fill up my popcorn, and go see the second movie. I mean, who didn't do that? I mean, nobody's gonna pay twice. I actually never did, but I think I was a little too old. That was a good trick- Stop. Yeah. I did it all. I swear. You really never did that. I never did that. No, I did that all the time. And I mean, honestly, I'd stay till the sun went down, come back, have the tea meal. And like you said, Tony, just go back to your room. I mean, your anchorage is not exactly a hot spot. Number one, number two, it's actually a cold spot. It's so cold you can't go out and do anything. Correct. Yeah. Exactly. The exact opposite of a hot spot. That's right. So if they would play on a Tuesday and a Thursday, I mean, Wednesday, honestly, I didn't see anything but the inside of my hotel room. So I know of what you speak, for sure. Safe to say that, yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready to go see the new stadium. Ready to get out and get a little fresh air tonight. Let's hope that we get another Dylan C's performance, like the last one. I, you know, when he's good, like that, what was it against Washington, I think last Wednesday or Thursday, seven innings, one hit. You know, he looks like he, I know it's not possible, but he looks like he should be able to do this every time because he's, he's so dominant when he's in command. And it's just, it's a show. Go ahead. It just goes, it just goes to show you that, you know, how important throw in the ball where you want to. Yes, you're right. Because, because that is really the difference. It's, it's not like his stuff, is it worse? Like, it's just a matter of him throwing the ball where he wants. And when he's throwing the ball where he wants, you get a result like his last start. The, the previous starts, he may have times where he's throwing the ball where he wants, but there are more times where he's not throwing the ball where he wants. And it seems like, and especially in his starts, teams aren't missing it. And so it was nice to see him kind of get back in the groove of things a little bit. Yeah. Last, that last start. Yeah, I'd like to see that tonight. You know, it is true. And we watch a game on television. I mean, if you break it down, really, who other than Luis arrives hits a pitch that's not kind of in the meaty part of the strike zone hard? You know what I mean? I mean, when pitchers make their pitches, and they paint the corners or they put it at the knees, inside, outside, up, down, you know, if they're hitting the line on the box rather than inside the box, it's pretty hard to hit these guys. However, if you do put it in the box, as you said, Tony, they don't miss. That's how good these guys professionally are as hitters. And, you know, that's the key to cease tonight. And that's what I've always thought. You know, I know that everybody talks about how fast everybody throws, the spin rate now, et cetera. But pitching is still a lot like real estate. And that comes down to location, location, location. And, you know, if you can locate, you don't have to have, you know, even Dylan Cece's stuff to get guys out. So I'm hoping that'll be what we see tonight. And the other side you got of Aldi pitching for Texas. And I, you know, this is a guy that seems to me that when the chips are down, right, in October, this guy's very dangerous, right? And then I eat, right? I mean, he's one of the best postseason pitchers. He was there for all of those key games last year. I think he pitched shutout ball in the clinching game. And he pitched great for Boston in the World Series several years ago. And then I look at him today. He's got a losing record in a four and a half ERA. And I'm like, what happened to that guy who dominates in October? So, wait, wait, wait. I think you might have some old stats. Okay. What's he got? Yeah, he's four and three. Oh, four and three. He's got a, and he's got a three, four, five right now. Well, he, he must have, yeah, you're right. He's nice to know that the bear is missing. The bear misinformation has arrived on the scene. He had a, he had a bad start. He had a bad start. That's what I meant to say. Yeah. Well, that's what she meant to say. Look, I can't, I can't counter to Ponto to memorize every single player in the major league statistics. Scrape. Oh, I don't know. You sure do think I need to memorize everything. Oh, you're a producer. You're at another level. You've got to memorize. You've got to, you've got to do that kind of stuff. That's, that's funny. That's real funny. Yeah. Yeah, but either way, your point is well taken. This dude has the ability to go out and throw up some zeros. This offense hasn't looked quite right this year for the Rangers. I think Simian's in a bit of pretty bad slump right now. Is Seager still hurting? I know he was uh, he had missed some time there for a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to tough. This is, this is a team to clearly not playing to the World Series of the 38 and 46. Wow. Coming into eight games under 500. Yeah, I'm, they had to get a new manager over there. I mean, what's the guy doing down there? He manages that team. Thought he was going to the hall to be. That's the game. Uh, I'm, I'm looking forward to see a boat stroke. Sure. We're going to go get to see him. I get to see Mr, Mr. Venable down there as well. She'll still see him in there. He's still GM. He's a little bit tougher to track. You don't run into any of that much. Yeah, it's a little harder to run into to see why. But yeah, I mean, I guess it's not hard because he's seven foot. But I'm just saying like I don't run into him. Yeah, but you know that I think that that, you know, the Rangers winning the World Series last year. You know, it was a great story for Bochi, of course, and everything. But I think it was a little tough to swallow in San Diego. And that's not our fault, but to see Bochi win again, to see Chris Young go win, will Venable win. I don't know. That takes a little piece out of me. I, I, you know, they were our guys and now they're their guys. And they didn't, they didn't win a World Series as our guys. I had to break it to you, Chris. But Bruce Bochi was someone else's guy. I'm aware of that and every time he did certain lines. And every time he won with a giant. He was a time someone else's guy. He was, but every time he won with the Giants, I always felt some type of way about it. That's kind of the point on that. I think a lot of, I, I think a lot of people felt that way as it pertained to the Giants. And I'm sure there was some folks that, you know, not felt some type of way in a bad way about Bochi winning it. But like, man, you know, let's say people think, man, we had him at one time. Yeah, I mean, the third base coach, a little longer. The third base coach for the San Francisco Giants during their World Series championship years was a guy who sits in the very seat that you sit in now, Tony. Tim Flannery, he was a broadcaster, right? The year that you were here in 2000 was 10. When you guys had the lead, I know he was broadcasting that team. And everybody loves Flan around here. But you know, yeah, sitting them down there, waving runners in and winning World Series. Wrong team, wrong team. Sorry, Scrave, I can't just give that one to you. Giant fan. I'm okay. Scrave, how's, how's your, how's your, how's your buddy Lucky doing? Oh, thank you. Oh, yes. It's been a rugged day for the producer of the program. Oh, yes. I am lucky. Let me just start by saying he's okay. He's on, he's on the mend. Good. This is the first real incident I've had with him, like where he was hurt or something. And I didn't know what was happening. But I told everyone yesterday, he had this like spot on his cheek. And I did tweet this out at Matt Scrabe and Instagram did too. Yeah, I think they shouldn't allow that picture to be out. It wasn't that cold. It's tough to look at. That's good. I guess I'm weird though, because I had the one who searches out bad. Yeah, it didn't break and stuff like that. I felt bad for the dog, man. Well, yeah, like who owns this dog? I mean, take care of it. Don't ever say that. Take care of this dog, geez. So anyway, I go to bed last night. It was looking bad. I was like, I'm gonna give it till this morning. So I wake up this morning. It was bloody. And it was worse. And it was bigger. It was a pussie. It was a little pussie, a little pussy. So I said, all right, I'm taking you to the vet, big guy. And called him, got an appointment, went over there. And apparently they think it was a bug bite that got infected. And then he just kept scratching it. Yeah, that's what dogs tend to do. Yeah, but I can't believe that he got this huge wound on his face from just scratching it. And like a day and a half, it was crazy. A likely story coming from the owner of the dog. What do you think I did? Maybe it was just neglect. And you allowed him to venture into somewhere where he should not have. I am not Antonio, whatever his name is for the raider. I can't remember. Antonio Pierce. Antonio Pierce, you're not a dog neglecter. I am not a dog neglecter. To prove that you're not a dog neglecter. I don't know, man. He lets you dog to hold with himself. Maybe you are. Hey, I took him right to the back. Maybe you are. I sat with him. He's big enough now that in the morning, we hug each other, good morning. And he really wanted to hug this morning. He needed something was up. He needed one. I think what you need to do now to put a tiny little bow on this whole incident with Lucky the Dog is get a couple of pictures of him with his plastic cone on and tweet those out so he can all get a good little laugh out. Here, here, since I don't have a child, I spend money on him like it is my child. So I got him a donut instead of the cone. A donut? Yeah, I don't know what that is. Because then he can't like, he can't get to it. I don't know, Tony, do you know what I'm talking about? Like a dog donut? Yes, I do know what you're talking about. Yeah, so it's not like the cone because the cone, I could see Lucky walking through doors and just keep getting like... Stop hitting the side of a span on the door. Yeah, and I could also see him just ripping that thing into a million pieces because he's a found dog, but when he gets angry, he gets angry. Well, I'm glad Lucky's okay. Thank you. And everybody is, you know, happy and healthy. I cried this morning. In the, in the, going in Chris family. You cried. Yeah. Because, and that is because... I was scared. You were fearing the worst. I was scared. You were fearing the worst. Yeah, you're that way. Oh yeah, I thought it was flesh-eating bacteria and it was going to eat its face off. That's what I originally thought. That's what... That's because you watch too many of those great movies you watch. That'll be careful. Last thing before, last thing before we go to break, to get us, to get us back to the sports room. We, I think we might have predicted this happening and maybe we get into it later on in the show. We don't have that much show to be quite frank, so maybe we just entertain it a little bit later. But Michael Parsons, this podcast is finally gotten them into some trouble. I don't know if you guys saw it. Whoa, no, but he says crazy stuff. Ah, this is a report coming from Dallas, I see. This is, yes, this is a report coming from Dallas. I think it was, you know, the first hand on my feed today that I saw it. But you guys know who Malik Hooker is, right? He's one of the defenders, I believe, for the Cowboys. He's a veteran. He was on, oh my gosh, Kishan's podcast. I can't even remember what it's called anymore. It doesn't matter. Okay. All it matters is that Kishan asked him how he felt about the podcast. And you could see him, like, about teammates doing the, about Michael, in particular, doing the podcast. And he basically was like, I, you know, it's not for me. You know, there are, he's a, there's certain guys it works for. He mentioned the Kelsey's and how they still go out and ball. And he said the same could go for Michael, but he would say that, you know, you getting, and I don't know if he was calling out, uh, a mica, but he was making a point that you don't want to get into the idea of you just saying stuff randomly to get clicks when you're, when you're, when you're on there. And he went on to say, you know, in as long as he's taking care of business. If, if, you know, I'm out here busting my behind in the run defense sucks. And then I see you on the podcast, like, what's your priorities? You know what I'm saying? Now, I don't know if those were particular shots or he was just using that as an example of when he wouldn't be okay with it, but mica, then tweet it and then delete it as he typically does. Yes, he does. The, the comment of, I wish he would have, I wish he's something along the lines. I wish he would have just said that to me. And then I suppose to go on, as opposed to going on a podcast, I think he said. And so I found that to be kind of ironic because he says wild stuff on his podcast. And the moment that his teammate is like, yo, as long as you're taking care of business, you know, I don't have a problem with it. He is upset by him saying that on the podcast. Let's find that to be kind of. Are we happy that, uh, no Padre player currently active has a podcast? Or do we miss the fact that there might be some fun opportunities there if they had one? No, they've never had one. I think I know. I think it's good. I think it's good. They don't, right? Do we, do we know of a podcast that exists of a player and them team and this team actually winning? Yeah, I look at them like, there's just no way you can do a podcast and make it good without ruffling some feathers on your own, in your own locker room. You just can't do it. Well, you know, I will say, I will say Paul George does a pretty good job of it. He keeps it. He keeps it out of his own locker room, or he's talking about himself. But my point is like, you know, it's not like there's a case out there where there's a guy who has a podcast and it's, well, that's not true because the Kelsey's certainly. It's way easier because you got a lot more time in football. It's harder for, I think. Yeah, that's also true. That's also true. Yeah. You have like, oh, yeah, I don't know. I think, I think the Padres are during the good spot, wherever they, however they're doing it now. Yes. All right. Keep it quiet. Keep it quiet. So yeah, keep it quiet. Let's get to break when we return, just getting rolling. Morgan and Chris on the other side. I do it while making coffee. I do it in the car. I do it when the kids are asleep. What are they all doing? 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Chrisello, Tony Gwen Jr. in Dallas with the Padres. They get set to take on the Texas Rangers match. Scrabies alongside here in the Odyssey Palace. Missing his pup. But in all seriousness, I'm glad the lucky the dog is okay. Thank you very much. And on the mend. Yes. But I kind of missed the laugh that I would get if she had the halo on. Because I always laugh at dogs when I have it. Oh, is what he had the halo on? Yeah. Oh, I'll take a picture later and pose it for everyone. Oh, something. I'm not sure if I'm going to put him in the halo or the donut. So. All right. No, I think the halo is just an automatic. It's comedic relief. It is. It is what that is. Because we used to have a dog way back when I had to wear the halo all the time because it kept getting in trouble with stuff. Right, right, right. And every single time it would walk through a door, it would be flumbling. Yeah. Going through a dog door too. We're like, when are you going to realize that you cannot get through the dog door? Cats with halo's have a real problem because cats use their whiskers to judge how wide an opening is. Is that right? That is right. I do not know that. If a cat's whiskers touch the sides, then it knows that its body cannot fit through. Geez, I had no idea. I didn't know that. I don't know much about cats. Stick with this program. Stick with this program. And you'll learn about cats. You'll come out with little factoids that you thought you'd never know. Yeah. That's what cats use their whiskers for. Among other things. All right. Let's get back to it. Padres and Rangers tonight, as mentioned, game one. Now, the three-game series down in Texas and just makes me think of, you know, unfortunately makes me think of the COVID season anytime you go down to Texas. But this is where Slam Diego was born. Padres hit four grand slams in four games. I think three of those games were in Texas. It's where Fernando swung in the 3-0 pitch and hit a grand slam. I think I'll see if I can find that highlight. And yeah, that was kind of the beginning of a lot of stuff in that 2020 season, which turned out OK for the Padres. They ended up going down to the Dodgers, finally, in the COVID, you know, NL playoffs, which were played right here in the globe-life field, in the stadium. But the Rangers are also the defending World Series champions, not playing anywhere near like that, though. As Tony pointed out in the open, they're 38 and 46. They are eight games under 500. And, you know, it is interesting how we here in San Diego and everywhere, but especially us, because we're the ones going through it. You got the Fernando grand slam? I do. You know, it's really funny when I'm listening to this. I forget that Jesse and Tony at the time we're doing it at Peko Park off of a TV. They were not there. So you'll hear like Jesse, you'll hear the highlight, and you can tell immediately when here it is. All right, let's relive that moment in history. See what he does here. Three balls and no strikes. Runners lead at all three bases, and the pitch to Tatis is swung on and hit out to deep right field. It is up and down a grand slam for Fernando Tatis Jr. He leaves Mike Trout behind with his 11th home run of this season. His second of the night, and in the last 40 minutes or so, he has hit two home runs and driven in seven. The Padres have made it a blowout. 14 to three in Arlington. You want to know what hits me most about the whole thing? So weird. No crowd noise. While they didn't. They weren't. There was no crowd. Well, they pumped in crowd noise. They pumped in what they could. That was so weird to listen to. Our cardboard cutouts sitting in the stands, watching that grand slam as there were here in San Diego. It's really a time I'd rather kind of forget. So I'm sorry I brought it up in the first place. No, that was a good memory. That particular memory was a good one, but the Texas Rangers, right? I mean, the only memories they have are what they did last October, and I bring this up because, you know, we get so engrossed in what's happened in San Diego, and how guys like Manny has struggled mightily. He hasn't struggled anywhere near as much as Adelis Garcia has. This is a guy. Wasn't he the MVP of the World Series or the playoff or something? He was on. They couldn't get him out last October runs every other day. Yeah, he does have 16 home runs, but he's hitting 221. His OPS is 710. I'll give you another example of a guy Evan Carter. Does that name ring a bell? Yeah, he's like really? This was the guy who came up right at the very end of last season, went crazy in the playoffs and was basically handed the A.L. Rookie of the Year award this year before the season ever started. He's not going to win it. Evan Carter's hitting 188 right now with five home runs and 15 RBIs. Jackson Merrill has almost more home runs, and this guy has RBIs. And, you know, we need to remind ourselves how fortunate the Padres have been to have, you know, so many guys contribute to their success this season. Even your favorite Ranger. Cory Seinger, yeah, he's been hurt. Been hurt on and off. He's got 15 homers, but only hitting 260. You know, so it hasn't even been a great year for him. Marcus Simeon's down to 235. The Rangers as a team are only hitting 238. Here's what Matt Snyder. That's 25 points lower than the Padres. This is the, you know, the Rangers we're talking about, but they have done nothing. Matt Snyder said yesterday in his power rankings article, when it came to the Rangers, he basically said, well, fans last year said, go all in. I win a World Series and I don't worry about it. I'll deal with it later on. Well, they're dealing with it later on, and everybody's angry now. So you can't be angry if your team goes all in and wins a World Series. Well, uh, now injuries have been part of it, right? Scherzer's only pitched two games. He's going to pitch in this series. DeGrom is pitched in zero games, right? So Cody Bradford, who started the year pretty well for them, is only pitched in three games. Uh, they have had a nice boost from Kirby Yates. Remember him? Good old Kirby's got 11 saves at the back end of that bullpen. But, um, you know, look, it's been a wildly disappointing year for a team that won the World Series last year. They're no weren't even close to the playoffs right now. Uh, let's just hope the Padres can keep them scuffling. Uh, although last year, remember when the Rangers came out here in the summer? Yeah, Padres swept them. They did swept them. And you know how that all turned out? Not so good for the Padres and real good for the Rangers. So yeah, I remember that. Man, every week last year was like, okay, they turned it around. Yeah, but this year they actually did turn it around. Yes, but they're, you know, they're four games over 500 scrape. I don't want to say anything. I'm keeping moving, Padra. Yeah, you got to keep it going because that can switch real quick. So we'll have game one of the series tonight. Little after five o'clock, Sam Lovett's got the pregame show at four o'clock. When we come back, one of our favorites on this program, we always enjoy having Mark Ziegler on. He's getting ready to head to France. Some people have all the luck. He'll be covering the Olympics for the San Diego Union Tribune. Did you know that that includes break dancing? I did know break dancing was a sport. It's in the Olympics. I know that. I don't know if you call it a sport. We'll get Mark Ziegler's thoughts on other stuff when we come back on Gwen and Chris. No balls in one strike. The big right hand are ready and delivers. Swing and a grab all the shortstop. Kim has it. Friendly hop. Throw to first. That is a no hitter and that is history. Joe Musgrove with the first no hitter in Padre history. Yeah, that happened also in Globe Life Park. I talked all about the 2020 visit when Sam Diego was born. But the next April, Padre swept a three game series. And that series started with Joe Musgrove's no hitter. That was Isaiah Kiner-Philippa grounding out to Haas and Kim to end the ball game. Ball caught at first base by Jirksen Profar playing first base that evening for the Padres and Joe Musgrove. Yeah, so five straight for the Padres at Globe Life Ball Park there. And they'll try to extend that tonight in game one of a three game series. Welcome back, Chris Sello. Tony Gwen Jr is in Texas. He'll be rejoining the program in just a little bit. Matt Scravey is alongside. But we're happy to be joined right now. By one of our guys. And we always enjoy having him on the program. Mr. Mark Ziegler from the San Diego Union Tribune joins us. And I heard, I don't know if you're aware of this, Mark, you may want to reconsider once you find this out. But we are golfing partners this Friday in the junior world media. Let's do it. Yeah, because I heard you shoot like 75 or something. So no, not, not bad, but I'm looking. It's Tory South. So basically you're going to be hating golf by about the 14th hole. But other than that, it'll be fun. Well, we'll have a good time. And I am looking forward to it. I've never played out there before. And I don't know that I'm really good enough to qualify, but I'll give it my best shot. But it will be fun. Always fun having you on the program. Let's start with the. Yeah, I know we've covered a variety of things with you today. But I know you, you know, you keep a very close eye on the US and the soccer. And last night they get beat by, was it Uruguay? One nil, get knocked out of the Copa America a little earlier than people were hoping. People are talking that it's time to change coaches. My, from my perspective, Mark, and I don't follow soccer as closely as you do. I mean, you're never going to give up, but is it just possible that maybe we'll just never be great at soccer? I mean, because we've been trying for a long, long time. The men's side. The men's side. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's a really frustrating because, you know, Americans are really good at a lot of stuff. And they have just a knack of figuring it out and getting good at it. You know, even some sports that traditionally, you know, the United States wasn't good at. They have become good at, and this is the one that the men on the men's side, not the women's side, obviously, but on the men's side, they just can't figure it out. And I just think it's mostly the federation. A federation can't get out of its own way. You know, there's a long history, and I may write something about this. There's a long history of in the World Cup where they call second cycle coaches, guys who stick around for another four years, and it almost never works. And that's in a lot of countries. But in the United States, we've tried it three times before Greg Beralter and we're over three. Now we're about to be over four. I'm assuming he's going to get fired. You never know, but I'm assuming that's what's going to happen. And so I mean, I think the federation can't sort of figure it out. It shouldn't be that difficult. But the federation is one of those organizations like this in a lot of Olympic sports in the United States where there's no change over. There's no turnover. It's just the same guys over and over and over again, trying the same things and think they have all the answers. And unless you shake that up, nothing's really going to change. Yeah, it's kind of a shame. Because I mean, I really think the soccer is we're on the verge, you know, breaking through especially right here in San Diego. We've got the team coming next year, the MLS. And I just, you know, I think the success of a national team, you know, might put us over the hump and soccer. And I know the soccer people out there are going to tell me they're already over the hump. But, you know, I think it's going to take something a little bigger. Mark, on the women's side, we find out Alex Morgan doesn't make the Olympic team. Maybe it was time, you know, father time is undefeated, as they always say. Is this a big deal? Should we have been surprised? Because I mean, you know, Alex has kind of become a bit of a hero around these parts. No, I shouldn't have been surprised. You know, her game has dropped off quite a bit. Her popularity hasn't. But her game has. And you can't get in the habit of making a national team a popularity contest. I think they made that mistake at the last World Cup. They took Megan Rapino. They took a couple other players that probably shouldn't have been there. Based on their legacy and pedigree and all that. And it was a mistake. It's these tournaments, you play a lot of games in a short amount of time. It's not like club soccer playing maybe once a week. You can rest players. You can't rest people. You got to, you know, you get small rosters in the Olympics. You only get 18. And to have a forward who is aging, who can't score on an 18-woman roster, just does not make sense. And I'm actually kind of proud of them for making that move. I mean, I feel bad for Alex. But, you know, there's some good young players behind her. And I think it's their turn and their chance. And yeah, I think a lot of people within the soccer community. Maybe we're a little sad, but not surprised. We're talking to Mark Ziegler here of the San Diego Union Tribune about a whole host of things today. And a popa revisit. A popa revisit. And the next thing I wanted to ask you about is because we were texting yesterday and you said you were headed up to an event for the Team USA skateboarding team. I hope I have that right. But how was that? And what are you kind of looking forward to in this Olympics? So, San Diego is, and some people, I think the average sports fan would not realize this. We are the epicenter of skateboarding. Now, obviously because of Tony Hawk, but in terms of competitive skateboarding, now that it's an Olympic sport, San Diego is the epicenter. And you look at, I mean, this is incredible. So, there's two disciplines. There's Park, which is kind of the Bowl. And then there's Street, which is more like rails and stairs and tricks like that. On the park team, so you get three athletes from each country if you have a certain ranking status. So, we had three guys who are ranked one, two, three in the world. And one of them had a bad last trousers series of trials and had a bad last qualifying trial and got passed by a guy who was, I think, fifth of the world. And he jumped up into that top three in the US. All four of those guys are from San Diego. These are the four best guys in the world. And then the other guy who would be in the top five, the guy named Keegan Palmer, who's from Australia, but he was born in San Diego, moved to Australia, moved back like these seven or eight and has lived here ever since in ETA's training. He won the gold medal in the last Olympics. So, basically the five best guys in the world are all here. And the other thing that's unique about skateboarding, it's just, it's really fun. I went up, they introduced the team and they had media sessions with all these guys, is, you know, like LeBron James doesn't go in just regularly to pick up basketball, right? You just don't see him unless you buy a ticket and go see him play. These guys are in the skate parks all around San Diego, San Ocean Beach. They're up at Antoinita's, they're an ocean side. You name it, you can show up at a skate park and there's an Olympic medalist skating with you, who's approachable and you can talk to him and they can teach a tricks and it's just the coolest vibe of a sport that I don't know if that exists anywhere else in the world in any other sport and that's all right here. And it's cool. So, yeah, to answer your question by the Olympics, I'll be covering a lot of skateboarding because not just, you know, again, not just the US team, but a lot of foreign athletes too are based here. And even the ones who aren't based here come through the train because the weather, because of the skate parks and because the level of competition, not a competition level of ability, they want to be with guys out there who are kind of pushing the envelope of the sport and there's just tons of them everywhere here. Yeah, it's funny you say that you can just go to a park and you can see an Olympic medalist and that's, I was driving by a YMCA one day up in North County and there was so many people just sitting around this half pipe and so I pulled over. I wanted to see because there was enough people and I don't remember who it was, but it was a guy who was on the Olympic team or at least trying out for the Olympic team and he was doing all these crazy tricks and spending time with little kids and teaching them how to kick flip and things like that. It was pretty awesome. Sure, their parents were thrilled. They were. They were. Hey, Mark Ziegler's with us heading for France soon. The Olympics opening ceremony is three weeks from Friday, July 26. So, the Olympics are pretty much upon us. I'm watching TV the other day and I see a whole segment mark on the fact that break dancing is now an Olympic sport break dancing. It's not even called break dancing anymore. It's called breaking. Are you planning to attend this and when do we make the line between sports and activities, Mark? Well, when I heard that breaking with Gurney Olympic, I'm like, okay, I'm not going out to watch that. I don't know anything about it. I don't know, you know, is this sport? Is it not? I don't know, but I'm just glad I have to cover it. Well, then the team, two members of the team, it's a four person team for announced and the other people from New York and I'm like, okay, whatever. And then two more announced and there's a girl from Chula Vista. So, I will be out there probably watching that and I'm assuming United States is really good at it. I think we invented it. So, we should be good at it. And I was just reading up a little bit about her and she grew up at Chula Vista, homeschooled and been all over the world and done videos and it was pretty famous within that community. Just like the skateboarders, like, there's one guy I heard and he has a sponsorship and has like a million dollar bonus if he wins a gold. I mean, these guys are making bank. I mean, they do videos. They're YouTube sensations. They're able to monetize that. They have sponsors. Their big time. There's a guy named Jagger Eaton who was trying to become the first guy ever to qualify in both park and street disciplines and felt, you the guy felt just short. He was ranked and had a bad last trials. He is just a stud. I mean, he is, I don't want to say he's the next Tony Hawk because no one's the next Tony Hawk, but he is starting to gain that sort of status everywhere he goes. Everyone knows who he is among that culture and then probably among our friends would, he could walk in a room. We wouldn't know who he was, but there's a little bit of that probably with breaking as well. So yeah, it's going to be interesting to see. I guess I'm going to have to learn about it and and not make fun of it. No, I'm not going to make fun of it. I was, I was surprised and I'm like, okay, I did notice ballroom dancing is not on the the docket though this time around. That's what I watch on true TV. What am I going to do now? Yeah, we'll just go watch you go watch it. It's still, it's still there. It's just not going to be in the Olympics. Mark sealers with us. Quick update on Brian Dutcher's team. I know it's the off season or whatever. Mark, is there anything new that we need to know about Aztec basketball before you leave town? So this is like the last kind of quiet week. The 4th of July holiday is really the last downtime they have. Players start arriving, you know, later this week, this weekend and you know, Sandy State is two summer sessions now. So they're coming to the second session of summer school. The first session, they kind of let leave it up to them some stay. A lot of them go home. That's their one break. And then they'll start practicing next week. They're allowed certain number of hours. I think it's eight hours a week and you can, you know, add that up and do it how you want, whether the individual workouts or group workouts or somebody's will do full team scrimmages you know, a couple days a week for 40 minutes. And we'll really get started getting a bigger, a better picture of the team. Right now they have one scholarship left. If they were to use it, it probably would be on that small forward, the Elijah Saunders type position. They've looked at some guys. I think the feeling is they're not going to take a guy unless he's really, really good and older, like a veteran player they could come in and start. Otherwise, they don't want to get a younger player in the way of the foreman they have and the freshman and a red shirt freshman they have in that position. So I think they'll still look every now and then you see a player de-commit from a school that he was going to transfer to. So those kind of players could be in, you know, in play, but I think they're just going to be patient and they're happy with what they have. But beyond that, they'll start practicing and kind of get a better feel for what kind of team they're going to have. I could say that it's going to be a fascinating season. That's what I wanted to ask you about because there are so many names that are so many recognizable names that are leaving the team. You got Lamont Butler now in Kentucky and you got other guys like Elijah Saunders that left the team. What's the feeling around the program? Do they feel like they're going to pick up where they left off? What do you think they're thinking right now behind closed doors? My guess, if I were to get their heads, that they're looking at their roster going where we're going to be bigger and we're going to be maybe more raw talent than we had last year and in the previous years, but we're not going to be as old. And in college basketball, I mean, San Diego State rode that to a national championship game. They were older than some NBA starting lineups. I mean, they were an old, old team. They're all seniors, fifth year seniors, sixth year senior in one play, in one case. You know, junior was the young guy in the rotation. And they're not going to be that now. They're going to rely on, you know, three, four freshman, redshirt freshman next year and a sophomore who barely played. And so, you know, half the rotation is going to be newer guys and inexperienced guys and they're very talented. But, you know, is there any replacement for experience in college basketball? We're about to find out. And that's what I think makes it so exciting. But they're not going to lack talent. They've got some guys who can really play. But as you've seen, college basketball has become such an old game compared to what it was before where freshmen could step in. It's rare now that freshmen really step in and are impactful. So I think as a coach, to answer your question, there's probably a little bit of anxiety there about the youth and the youthful mistakes that you're going to see. And you have to live with and sort of work through. Can't wait for the season, Mark. Got less than a minute, probably. Kishod and Ladid, did they land in good spots with their NBA signings? Yeah, Kishod, a great spot in Miami. They're known for the development of undrafted free agents. You can't ask for a better spot. He did train down there in Miami. So he's a little bit familiar with the city and the organization. And he got a two-way contract, which pays him pretty well and kind of gives him some stability. Jaden, you know, feel that a lot of offers, it took a while because he was sorting through them all. But he's going to play the Summer League with Minnesota. I believe it's an exhibit 10 contract, which is something better than a Summer League contract, but certainly not what Kishod got. And it's going to be more reliant on how he does in Summer League. But because he's older, bigger, stronger, I think he has a shot at really making an impact at Summer League against some of these younger players because he's so much more mature. So hopefully he can that experience and his age will help him there. And then hopefully he gets an invite to training camp. He goes from there. But the Timberwolves are a great organization. And we've seen the way they built the team into a title contender. So I think they're both in pretty good spots. I see Jaden with these setting screens for Ant-Man next season. And I hope anyway. Marcus, see you Friday out on the course. Have a good 4th of July. Look forward to seeing you then, man. Thanks for the time. Yeah, looking forward to it. Yes, sir. Yes. Okay, there he goes. Mark Ziegler with a little update on everything. See, you learn a lot of stuff on this show. I mean, I'm pretty sure that 80% of the people out there didn't know that breakdancing was in the Olympics. I honestly think that you knew that though. Yeah, because it's been like a joke over the years that that's like involved. I think, I mean, breaking, it's called breaking now. It's not called breakdancing. It does look very difficult. Oh, I'm sure it's difficult. And the core strength for those people is insane. But is it a sport or is it an activity? I guess we could go back and forth. We're going to have to break down the definition of sport because people tell me golf is in a sport. Wow. Good point. Yeah. Because you can play it. Oh, and you can't be a breaker. You can be a golfer, but not a breaker. No. All right, more going to Chris coming up. One hour to go, we'll jam it full of fun stuff, including our big five. Stick around. I do it while making coffee. I do it in the car. 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The big right hand are ready and delivers. Swing and a grab all the shortstop. Kim has it. Friendly hop. Throw to first. That is a no-hitter and that is history. Joe Musgrove with the first no-hitter in Padre history. Yeah, that happened also in Globe Life Park. I talked all about the 2020 visit when Slam Diego was born. But the next April, Padre swept a three game series and that series started with Joe Musgrove's no-hitter. That was Isaiah Kiner-Folefa grounding out to Hassan Kim to end the ball game. Ball caught at first base by Jerkson Profar playing first base that evening for the Padre's and Joe Musgrove. Yeah, so five straight for the Padre's at Globe Life ballpark there and they'll try to extend that tonight in game one of a three game series. Welcome back, Criscello. Tony Gwen Jr. is in Texas. He'll be rejoining the program in just a little bit. Matt Scravey is alongside. But we're happy to be joined right now by one of our guys and we always enjoy having him on the program. Mr. Mark Ziegler from the San Diego Union Tribune joins us and I heard, I don't know if you're aware of this, Mark, you may want to reconsider once you find this out. But we are golfing partners this Friday. I heard that in the junior world. Let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, because I heard you shoot like 75 or something. So no, not not bad, but I'm looking. It's Tory South. So basically you're going to be hating golf by about the 14th hole. But other than that, it'll be fun. Well, we'll have a good time and I am looking forward to it. I've never played out there before. And I don't know that I'm really good enough to qualify, but I'll give it my best shot. But it will be fun. Always fun having you on the program. Let's start with the, yeah, I know we've covered a variety of things with you today. But I know you know, you keep a very close eye on the US and the soccer. And last night they get beat by was it Uruguay? One nil? Yep. Get knocked out of the Copa America a little earlier than people were hoping and people are talking that it's time to change coaches. My, from my perspective, Mark, and I don't follow soccer as closely as you do. I mean, you're never going to give up, but is it just possible that maybe we'll just never be great at soccer? I mean, because we've been trying for a long, long time. The men's side. The men's side. Yeah, exactly. It's, yeah, it's a really frustrating because, you know, Americans are really good at a lot of stuff and they have just a knack of figuring it out and getting good at it. You know, even some sports that traditionally, you know, the United States wasn't good at, they'd become good at. And this is the one that the men, on the men's side, not the women's side, obviously. But on the men's side, they just can't figure it out. And I just think it's, it's mostly the Federation. The Federation can't get out of its own way. You know, there's a long history, and I may write something about this, there's a long history of, in the World Cup, where they call second cycle coaches, guys who stick around for another four years, and it almost never works. And that's in a lot of countries. But in the United States, we've tried it three times before Greg Beralter and we're over three. Now we're about to be over four. I'm assuming he's going to get fired. You never know, but I'm assuming that's what's going to happen. And so, I mean, it just, I think the Federation can't sort of figure it out. It shouldn't be that difficult. But the Federation is one of those organizations, and it's like this, in a lot of Olympic sports in the United States, where they just, there's no change over. There's no turnover. It's just the same guys over and over and over again, trying the same things, and think they have all the answers. And unless you shake that up, nothing's really going to change. Yeah, it's kind of a shame. Because I mean, I really think the soccer, we're on the verge, you know, breaking through especially right here in San Diego, we've got the team coming next year, the MLS. And I just, you know, I think the success of a national team, you know, might put us over the hump in soccer. And I know the soccer people out there are going to tell me they're already over the hump. But you know, I think it's going to take something a little bigger. Mark, on the women's side, we find out Alex Morgan doesn't make the Olympic team. Maybe it was time, you know, father time is undefeated, as they always say. Is this a big deal? Is this, should we have been surprised? Because I mean, you know, Alex has kind of become a bit of a hero around these parts. No, I shouldn't have been surprised. You know, her game has dropped off quite a bit. Her popularity hasn't. But her game has, and you can't get in the habit of making a national team a popularity contest. I think they made that mistake at the last World Cup. They took Megan Rapino. They took a couple other players that probably shouldn't have been there based on their just their legacy and pedigree and all that. And it was a mistake. It's these tournaments. You play a lot of games in a short amount of time. It's not like club soccer playing maybe once a week. You can rest players. You can't rest people. You got to, you know, you get small rosters in the Olympics. You only get 18. And to have a forward who is aging, who can't score on an 18-woman roster just does not make sense. And I'm actually kind of proud of them for making that move. I mean, I feel bad for Alex. But, you know, there's some good young players behind her, and I think it's their turn and their chance. And yeah, I think a lot of people within the soccer community maybe were a little sad, but not surprised. I'm talking to Mark Ziegler here of the San Diego Union Tribune about a whole host of things today. And a pope revisit pope revisit. And the next thing I wanted to ask you about is because we were texting yesterday and you said you were headed up to an event for the team USA skateboarding team. I hope I have that right. But how was that? And what are you kind of looking for forward to in this Olympics? So San Diego is and I and you know, some people, I think the average sports fan would not realize this. We are the epicenter of skateboarding. Now, obviously because of Tony Hawk. But in terms of competitive skateboarding, now that it's an Olympic sport, San Diego is the epicenter. And you look at, I mean, this is incredible. So there's two disciplines. There's Park, which is kind of the bowl. And then there's Street, which is more like rails and stairs and tricks like that. On the park team, so you get three athletes from each country if you have a certain ranking status. So we had three guys who are ranked one, two, three in the world. And one of them had a bad last series of trials and had a bad last qualifying trial and got passed by a guy who was, I think, fifth of the world. And he jumped up into that top three in the US. All four of those guys are from San Diego. These are the four best guys in the world. And then the other guy who would be in the top five is a guy named Keegan Palmer, who's from Australia, but he was born in San Diego, moved to Australia, moved back like the seven or eight and has lived here ever since in Encinitas training. He won the gold medal in the last Olympics. So basically the five best guys in the world are all here. And the other thing that's unique about skateboarding, it's just, it's really fun. I went up, they introduced the team and they had media sessions with all these guys, is like LeBron James doesn't go in just regularly to pick up basketball. You just don't see him unless you buy a ticket and go see him play. These guys are in the skate parks all around San Diego, San Ocean Beach. They're up at Encinitas. They're an ocean side. You name it, you can show up at a skate park and there's an Olympic medalist skating with you who's approachable and you can talk to him and they can teach you tricks. And it's just the coolest vibe of a sport that I don't know if that exists anywhere else in the world in any other sport. And that's all right here. And it's cool. So yeah, to answer your question by the Olympics, I'll be covering a lot of skate too are based here. And even the ones who aren't based here come through the train because the weather, because of the skate parks, and because the level of competition, not a competition level of ability, they want to be with guys out there who are kind of pushing the envelope of the sport. And there's just tons of them everywhere here. Yeah, it's funny you say that you can just go to a park and you can see an Olympic medalist. And that's, I was driving by a YMCA one day up in North County. And there was so many people just sitting around this half pipe. And so I pulled over, I wanted to see because there was enough people. And of, I don't remember who it was, but it was a guy who was on the Olympic team, we're at least trying out for the Olympic team. And he was doing all these crazy tricks and spending time with little kids and teaching them how to kick flip and things like that. It was pretty awesome. Sure, their parents were thrilled. And they were, they were. Yeah. Hey, Mark Ziegler's with us heading for France soon, the Olympics opening ceremony is three weeks from Friday, July 26. So the Olympics are pretty much upon us. I'm watching TV the other day. And I see a whole segment, Mark, on the fact that breakdancing is now an Olympic sport. Breakdancing is not even called breakdancing anymore. It's called breaking. Are you planning to attend this? And when do we make the line between sports and activities, Mark? Or you said a big question. When I heard that breaking was going to the Olympics, I'm like, okay, I'm not going out to watch that. I don't know anything about it. I don't know, you know, is this sport? Is it not? I don't know, but I'm just glad I don't have to cover it. Well, then the team, two members of the team, it's a four person team, we're announcing the other people from New York, and I'm like, okay, whatever. And then two more announced, and there's a girl from Chula Vista. So I will be out there probably watching that. And I'm assuming the United States is really good at it. I think we invented it, so we should be good at it. And I was just reading up a little bit about her, and she grew up at Chula Vista, homeschooled, and been all over the world, and done videos, and it's pretty famous within that community. Just like the skateboarders, like, there's one guy I heard, he had a sponsorship and has a million dollar bonus if he wins a gold. I mean, these guys are making bank. I mean, they do videos, they're YouTube sensations, they're able to monetize that, they have sponsors. There's a guy named Jagger Eaton, who was trying to become the first guy ever to qualify in both park and street disciplines. He was a guy who fell just short, he was ranked, and had a bad last trial. He is just a stud. I mean, I don't want to say he's the next Tony Hawk, because no one's the next Tony Hawk. But he is starting to gain that sort of status everywhere he goes, everyone knows who he is among that culture. And then probably among our friends, he could walk in a room, we wouldn't know who he was. But there's a little bit of that, probably with breaking as well. So yeah, it's going to be interesting to see, I guess I'm going to have to learn about it and, and not make fun of it. Yeah, they're not going to make fun of it. I just, I was, I was surprised that I'm like, okay, I did notice ballroom dancing is not on the, the docket though, this time around. That's what I watch on true TV. What am I going to do now? Yeah, we'll just go watch, you go watch it. It's still, it's still there. It's just not going to be in the Olympics. Mark Zealer is with us. Quick update on Brian Dutcher's team. I know it's the off season or whatever. Mark, is there anything new that we need to know about Aztec basketball before you leave town? So this is like the last kind of quiet week. The 4th of July holiday is, is really the last downtime they have. Players start arriving, you know, later this week, this weekend. And, you know, San Diego State is two summer sessions now. So they're coming through the second session of summer school. The first session, they kind of let leave it up to them. Some stay, a lot of them go home. That's their one break. And then they'll start practicing next week. They're allowed certain number of hours, I think it's eight hours a week. And you can, you know, add that up and do it how you want with the individual workouts or group workouts or somebody to do full team scrimmages, you know, a couple of days a week for 40 minutes. And we'll really get started getting a bigger, a better picture of the team. Right now they have one scholarship left. If they were to use it, it probably would be on that small forward, the Elijah Saunders type position. They've looked at some guys. I think the feeling is they're not going to take a guy unless he's really, really good and older. Like a veteran player, they could come in and start. Otherwise they don't want to get a younger player in the way of the foreman they have and the freshman and a registered freshman they have in that position. So I think they'll still look. Every now and then you see a player de-commit from a school that he was going to transfer to. So those kind of players could be in, you know, in play. But I think they're just going to be patient and they're happy with what they have. But beyond that, they'll start practicing and kind of get a better feel for what kind of team they're going to have. It'll be it. Like I said, it's going to be a fascinating season. That's what I wanted to ask you about because there are so many names that are so many recognizable names that are leaving the team. You got Lamont Butler now in Kentucky and you got other guys like Elijah Saunders that left the team. What's the feeling around the program? Do they feel like they're going to pick up where they left off? What do you think they're thinking right now behind closed doors? My guess, if I were to get their heads, if they're looking at their roster going well, we're going to be bigger and we're going to be maybe more raw talent than we had last year and the previous years, but we're not going to be as old. And in college basketball, I mean, San Diego State rode that to a national championship game. They were older than some NBA starting lineups. I mean, they were an old, old team. They're all seniors, fifth year seniors, sixth year senior in one place, one case. Junior was the young guy in the rotation. And they're not going to be that now. They're going to rely on three, four freshmen, redshirt freshmen next year and a sophomore who barely played. And so, you know, half the rotation is going to be newer guys and inexperienced guys and they're very talented, but is there any replacement for experience in college basketball? We're about to find out. And that's what I think makes it so exciting. But they're not going to lack talent. They've got some guys who can really play. But as you've seen, college basketball has become such an old game compared to what it was before where freshmen could step in. It's rare now that freshmen really step in and are impactful. So I think as a coach, to answer your question, there's probably a little bit of anxiety there about the youth and the youthful mistakes that you're going to see. And you have to live with and sort of work through. Can't wait for the season, Mark. Got less than a minute, probably. Keyshod and Ladid, did they land in good spots with their NBA signings? Yeah. Keyshod, a great spot in Miami. They're known for the development of undrafted free agents. You can't ask for a better spot. He did train down there in Miami. So he's a little bit familiar with the city and the organization. And he got a two-way contract, which pays him pretty well and kind of gives him some stability. Jayden, you know, feel that a lot of offers, it took a while because he was sorting through them all, but he's going to play the Summer League with Minnesota. I believe it's an exhibit 10 contract, which is something better than a Summer League contract, but certainly not what Keyshod got. And it's going to be more reliant on how he does in Summer League. But because he's older, bigger, stronger, I think he has a shot at really making an impact in Summer League against some of these younger players, because he's so much more mature. So hopefully he can, that experience and his age will help him there. And then hopefully he gets an invite to train camp. He goes from there. But the Timberwolves are a great organization. And we've seen the way they built the team into a title contender. So I think they're both in pretty good spots. I see Jayden Ladid setting screens for Ant-Man next season. And I hope, anyway. Marcus, see you Friday out on the course. Have a good 4th of July. Look forward to seeing you then, man. Thanks for the time. Yeah, looking forward to it. Yes, sir. Okay, there he goes. Mark Ziegler with a little update on everything. See, you learn a lot of stuff on this show. I mean, I'm pretty sure that 80% of the people out there didn't know that breakdancing was in the Olympics. I honestly think you knew that though. Yeah, because it's been like a joke over the years that that's like involved. I think, I mean, breaking, it's called breaking now. It's not called breakdancing. It does look very difficult. Oh, I'm sure it's difficult. And the core strength for those people is insane. But is it a sport or is it an activity? I guess we can go back and forth. We're going to have to break down the definition of sport because people tell me golf isn't a sport. Wow, good point. Yeah, because you can play it. Oh, you can't be a breaker. You can be a golfer, but not a breaker. No. All right, we're going to Chris coming up one hour to go. We'll jam it full of fun stuff, including our big five. Stick around. I do it while making coffee. I do it in the car. I do it when the kids are asleep. What are they all doing? 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