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7.1.24 Gwynn & Chris Hour 4: Nationals still talking about Jurickson Profar
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It had nothing to do with anything but it waited even funnier than it dropped a cornholing. Now to be fair, I believe it was, is it Jake Irvin? Yes, yes. I believe Jake Irvin was asked a question from our folks at Foulterritory. I think it's A.J. Prasinski, Scott Braun, and usually, who am I missing? Someone else is on there. Prasinski, by the way, was very adamant that Gore hit profile on purpose. I know what I'm just saying. I'm saying, I'm backing that up. His dude is a huge human being. I can't, there's a name. Huge human being. Andre the Giant? Former catcher. Former catcher for the Phillies. Huge human being. I'm looking. I don't see it. Let me Foulterritory TV people. Huge catcher for the Phillies. Huge human being. Wow. Like he's a big dude. He, they were doing an interview with Jake Irvin. He was asked about the fisticuffs or the, you know, fake fisticuffs that happened in San Diego. Jason Kipnis. Scrabies about to give it. Nope, it's not Kipnis. I'll figure it out. You don't worry about it. Anyway, let's play that sound from that interview there, Scrab. I think it's, like you said, it's case to case basis. It's, it's, do whatever you want. You won the game. You did something really cool that people dream of doing and it's a special moment. I think for me personally, you keep it within your team, make it about your boys and make it about your family. When you bring it to the other side of the field, you know, there's just a little bit different feeling for a celebration like that. I was going to echo that same statement. AJ, I'm with you. You can do whatever you want. If it's with your team, if you guys have a fun celebration, whether it's the old Adam Jones pie in the face or the Gatorade celebrations, when you start kind of crossing that line and looking into the other dugout and I think that's, that's a little bit of where it gets a little kind of like a gray area, to be honest. So I think if it stays on your side of the field and with your guys, you, there is really no limit that you can do. Is that fair to say? Yeah. I absolutely. And I didn't, we didn't want to hit him. We didn't want to hurt him. Guys were over it, you know, 10 minutes after the game, but we talked as a group and just said, you know, that's something that we don't want to put up with as a team and it's part of this scrappy attitude that we have and we have each other's backs. We're here for each other. And part of that is doing what Caver didn't just stand enough for his guy. It sounded like he was talking out of both sides of his mouth there. He definitely was talking out of both sides of his face. Right. He first said, he first said, Hey, you hit a walk off, you did something that most people dream of, do what you want. Then in the same breath, he said, but once you crossed that line, you come over here and you're looking to do our dugouts, then we feel some time away. But then he said, 10 minutes after we were all over it, but then they had a meeting 10 minutes after and decided, you know what, this isn't what we're, we're there was a lot of, there was a lot of speaking about to decide that you're over it. And then if you're over it, why did the catcher get in his face the next day, which is eight hours later, 12 hours later? Yeah, come on. That's no good. Listen, I think it, it misses the part of the regardless what the intention was of the past. This is the guard. They've put a ball in his chin. Yeah. That's right, Tony. Under his chin. Right. Yeah. I think the other thing is, and I don't know if you are, you know, by trait, you are a visitor in another team's building. I don't know that you get any rights at that point. Like you, you're visiting and not only are you visiting, you lost on a walk off. I think at that point, and listen, we talked about this when it happened. It wasn't a little weird that it ended up on their side of the field. Yes, definitely weird, but that doesn't mean that he was staring into the dugout. I know many of them seem seemingly thought that. It looked like he was up in the stands for the most part, even though he was on their side of the field. And again, it totally, it totally misses the fastball underneath the chin that, you know, de-cleeded him. Basically, his cleats came out from under him. He hit the ground hard. If I'm not mistaken, it wasn't that, but next pitch, next couple of pitches later, he walks it off. So all of that's playing into it. And, you know, I think you know that because Winker makes the first out of the inning. And as I told you guys, the thing that he said to pro far walking out the field was, are we good? Are we good? And then pro far comes up and clearly, Keebert had different idea of what, if they were all right, he certainly wasn't over it. I don't, maybe he missed the team meeting that they had about, you know, being over. I think that they all missed the team meeting about being over it because I don't think any of them are over it. You remember last night during the team? Oh, wait, you were not the team meeting last night. I think we're going to see just how over it, they're not on July 23rd when the Padres go there. Because even if the players are over it, well, they might be over it, but the fans are going to remember it in Washington, D.C. There's going to be loud boom when pro far comes up in that first inning, you can be sure. Here's the deal. Pro far still got hit and don't think that has just been swept over. It shouldn't be. You know, I won't be surprised at all if there is a, I hate to use the word get back because it's, you know, so taboo. I like it, Tony, use it. But, you know, but I think there's some get back. I think there's some get back possible. I know the one thing I'm going to be tuned into that series a little more closely than some of the others. And you know, and looking at that series, by the way, the Padres do not, this is a little jumping the gun, but they do not have an easy start to the second half of the season. The Padres, have you seen this? First three, first three, of course, I haven't seen it. Yeah, I'm Cleveland and live it. So I leave. Yeah, Cleveland, D.C. and Baltimore. That's a tough road. Right out to shoot, baby. And then when you get home, Dodgers. So yeah, it's gonna be tough. You know, I, you know, they got two more East Coast swings. I got that one. And then the first week of August, they go to Pittsburgh, Miami. So that's that that three game road. He's the longest of the season for the Padres. And you know, it'll be a chance for him to get started, get off to a good start out coming out of the break. But it won't be easy. Won't be easy. Are we on to anything else? Are we just doing a paupery here scrape? Or do you have something else you need to get to? No, I was just searching for new news. We got, well, I got James Wood struck out in a second at bat and his helmet flew off. So he probably knew what he was doing. Yeah, good. It's gonna go and bet you every bad, you know, we could trade her a bad trade when he gets his home run, his first home run. Here's a name that popped up on the wire today that I haven't heard in a long time. And it was a name that I really liked. And I think a lot of people really liked and a really, really popular person, both, you know, on the field and in the booth, especially pretty much be loved. And you talk about making a mistake that basically cost you at all. How about John Gruden, guys? Once the last time you even heard that name, John Gruden. And since since his, since his, uh, my guy for the red, for the guard was, no, the football team leaked all that stuff out. That was Chris when he found out literally this was Chris when he found out that the commanders were no longer the Washington football team. That's the worst one of all time. Miss speaking on the glance lambs is better than that one there. I got to excuse me. That's better than that one. Yeah, that one there. I don't know where I was going. It's an off day. It's a Monday. So we're getting a little soon. It's a happy hour. Anyway, John Gruden didn't get his name back in the news today, but it's not anything good for him. Unfortunately, he lost his bid in the Nevada. He took this all the way to the Nevada Supreme Court and he lost his bid to, uh, reconsider whether there was interference and conspiracy against him after he left the Raiders. Um, you know, Gruden claims it was leaked on purpose that forced him to resign the racist, sexist and homophobic emails, et cetera, that he sent many years early. He says it was all released and forwarded to force him out of his job. So he's saying he wrote them though. I don't think he was all there. I don't think there was any definite there. This was, uh, what was my man's name for the Boston football team that was getting them. Snyder. Snyder Snyder was like, look over here. Don't look at me. Look at this guy. It only worked for Snyder for a little while, but man, he really swallowed up Gruden. That I, you know, I, I can't stick up for anything Gruden said. So it's hard to say. I feel bad for him. And he said what he said. And if you put it out there, even if it's not been released, you're always running that risk. So yeah, man, you know, talking like that. Yeah, because you think it won't get out is going to get you buddy. Yeah. So I feel, I mean, I, cause I, I did not like Gruden. I don't even, it didn't like him before this stuff came out. You didn't like one of the, one of the big, it was great. Hey, one of the best, one of the best hard knocks, speeches of all time. Oh, Tony was all time. Yeah, it was good. All time. Chuckie was all right, but he's not all right anymore. No more, no more Mr. Chuckie. 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Padre start with the Rangers tomorrow night, three-game series. Tony, I don't know that you would have gotten any word on this, but as of this morning, the Padre's had not determined their starting rotation for this series. They said they might switch some things up. Had you heard anything about that? Because it says on, excuse me, MLB.com that Cease is starting tomorrow, followed by Mazur, and then King. I would just say that that sounds pretty accurate. Yeah, I don't think there's a, anyway, we'll see if the Padre's change anything up. But as far as we know, I don't believe that it'll be the case. So we'll all find out it goes together tomorrow. Technically Cease and Evaldi tomorrow. Technically, they would be changing things up, right? Because, you know, in terms of whose turn in the rotation, it would be. Got it. Because King would become an, King just pitched the second game of this past year. Cease, Mazur, in the second game. I'm looking on MLB.com and they're not very, not very helpful. Yeah, King in the third game again, Scherzer, Max Scherzer. Right. So he still, I mean, just, it just means, oh, yeah, he came, just come back a second start, I think, maybe since coming back, something along those lines. Yeah, it sounds about right. But I would say that your, your idea of the rotation is accurate. Okay. Do you think the UT's Bryce Miller gets fired up when the saddle mariners Bryce Miller pitches? Well, those weird things. Knowing, knowing, knowing Bryce Miller the way I know Bryce Miller, I don't think that like, I think it would be kind of cool if there was a pitcher in baseball, named Matt Scrabie. I would close your eye on that. It's not even on his radar. Don't think so. Don't think Bryce Miller knows anything about Bryce Miller? Well, I think Bryce Miller, the pitcher is spelled B-R-Y-S-E. No, no, no. Good try. I thought he was according to this. That's the Bryce Miller. That's the Bryce Wilson from. Ah, that's what I'm thinking of. Nice try. Scrabie, Mr. Bear of misinformation. Oh, he loves to use that when it works for his narrative. He's back when it works for his narrative. I'll start balloting, continues. Again, I can't go against and be hypocritical and tell you to hurry up and vote more. Because I think I should be all stars if they're all stars, not because we beg you to vote. But you probably want to keep up with how things are going. And Profar has slipped a little bit behind Kristen Yellich in the outfield. 21% to 20%. And then Fernando's third was 16%. But it's very, very tight in the American League or the National League All-Star balloting. So do what you wish with that arises 10 percentage points behind in the National League at second base behind Catel Marte. And Nachado is trailing out, boned by a pretty good margin at third base. So there you have it. How did I guess the Brewers fans just started voting because I was looking at this. It didn't seem like Jerkston was going to get caught. I guess maybe Brewers. Yeah, let me. I think because you probably haven't paid a lot since to how these all said that as you get closer to like the end date, more people. This just happens all the time. More people start paying more attention. They start voting more. And the things can change pretty quickly. And then, you know, they got the campaign. Now, I think the Padres are paired with the Blue Jays. I think it's like four Padres and one Blue Jays. It seems like a little uneven. What are your thoughts about the campaign, Tony? Wouldn't you just like it if people voted to who they voted for? I'm not a fan of. I mean, even though I love Jerkston's little kid up on the screen asking us to vote for me, it's very cute. But I think we should vote because we want to vote for him as the all star, not because they're begging us to do it. Yes, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. And, you know, but you know, that is, you know, you're taking advantage of the social media element. I mean, that's what makes, that's why they can do these campaigns now is because, you know, it doesn't cost you anything. Yeah, you smack a couple teams players together and you say, Hey, Blue Jays fan base vote for us. We'll vote for your guy here in San Diego. Oh, we're supposed to do that. I mean, I don't think we are supposed to do that, but the Padres are definitely doing that. By the way, on the homepage, MLB.com, not that hype means anything. Top photo, if you go to that page, MLB.com, James Wood smoked an opposite field single on his first at bat for the Nationals. And there's a big picture of him. Does anybody else feel like he's getting this crazy treatment that I don't know that many people even outside of us and other people know who James Wood is? Um, I mean, he kind of, he kind of did that for himself by the kind of year he was having down in Triple A, it kind of built the steam. And he's, I think he's a top like prospect and like not just his organization, but like all the base number three overall right now, according to this, do it for you. He has a, he has a challenge on MLB. The show. That's how good he is. He has his own challenge. By the way, Mackenzie Gore challenge. What? Oh, on MLB. Yeah, yes. You have to hit two extra base hits with him in a game and it's really hard because you have to go up against there and Nola. There and Nola keeps blowing me away every time. Okay, I don't know what you're talking about, but I do know this Mackenzie Gore may go punch CJ Abrams. Oh no, in a battle of former Padres any moment now. Oh no, because you know what happens with Gore, he doesn't like when guys don't make a play for him. He gets got taken out of this game with a two nothing lead, Tony. Next batter up with two men on hit a ground ball to an under CJ Abrams glove for an error. Next guy followed with a two run double and now the Mets are ahead three to two. Gore, this is after he came out after he came out. CJ made the air and now the lead is gone. So don't expect he's doing that. Don't expect Mackenzie Gore to welcome CJ Abrams back into the dugout with a big hug. CJ better get his better get his guard up when he walks in there. Mackenzie Gore, they showed a shot of him in the dugout. They did show us out of him and he is not really that gum real fast. Yeah, he didn't look pleased. He also has a weird hat. Have you ever noticed that his hat doesn't fit his head? No, I do notice that he didn't want to come out of the game in the first place. And he kind of barked at Davey Martinez. How many pitches did you find how many pitches? Yeah, 104 in the sixth. Hey, bro. Listen, listen. Oh, I'm not agreeing with you. I'm not agreeing with you. Oh, no, you're not. Yeah, I'm talking. I'm talking about I'm talking. Oh, look at that shot of him stewing in the dugout right now. So angry right now. There is Steve coming out of his ears. I'm fake talking to Mackenzie right now, but yeah, bruh, if you're gonna throw 104 pitches and how many innings four and what five and two thirds? Yeah, five and two thirds, they're gonna come get you up. I mean, that's this isn't new to to the twenty four baseball. Yeah, so like if you aren't efficient, they are going to come get you whether you have a lead or not. That is just the way it goes. And and so, you know, the step for Mackenzie now is because it's clear, dude, his stuff is is high level. I mean, he was throwing 94 mile per hour sliders against the Padres the other day. Like you just don't see that. But if you can't take the next step to now be efficient, you know, it's kind of like what Michael King Michael King in his last start, really good. And he was really good not because he got the six innings because he did it in like 85 pitches. He was efficient. If you're 105 and you're not through, you know, you and you know, the team is knocking on the door and your stress pitches are going high, they're going to come get you. So I assume Mackenzie's upset with himself. I know the errors happened thereafter. And I'm sure as he stews in that anger after this, after he goes into the clubhouse, he'll think about it like man, what could I have done to put myself in a better spot? And that is be it more efficient with my cat, my pitch count. They you know, they're looking at it as a young guy. You just think he's going to say to himself as he goes down the locker, CJ Abrams better not cross my line of sight right now. It was a total boot like it was right under his glove between his legs. Set up the big rally. CJ is turning into a CJ is turning into a really fine offensive. Yes, he is. He just has some he just has some laps in concentration at times. I mean, whether it's the two plays in San Diego. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, that was bad. He booted one. He booed had a big error in that Padres series that led to some runs too. And so I see he's gonna be awesome, man. I really enjoy watching him put together a bat seeing like how far he's come, but they're still levels to this. Right. As he gets, he locks in on the concentration part, man, he's going to be a really, really good player. And so same with Mackenzie as he cleans up his stuff. He's gonna be really, really good. Well, there was no replay when they came back from commercial of Mackenzie Gore beating up CJ Abrams. So fortunately a little too important to the team. I don't know. Nixon's Elza starter. He didn't have any problem one to punch him out. That's true. That's very true. That's all it did. He was waiting for since that when it came off. Now, now since that was not a small dude, so, you know, he definitely was risking something. Since I decided to haul off and take one on, I mean, he would have that that skinny frame would have had to to eat a nice thick punch. All right, met three gnats to bottom of the six. If you're wondering when in Chris, we were visited earlier today. And it was fun. Charlie Hoffman from the PGA had some some good commentary, some fun stuff, and took a little shot at Scrabby's favorite golf for Rory McElroy. It's all coming up in the next half hour. Stick around. 737 here in Dallas 537 there in San Diego last segment of the day. Charlie Ha. I'm joined this year we got it was a surprise visit, by the way. Scrabby came to the table with literally nothing. Oh, okay. You know, you didn't get to see him, Tony. I walked in. He had both his palms up in the air. It was kind of sad. I was I was actually we talked about it on Friday. To be fair. To be fair. Yes, to be fair, Scrabby put out a bunch of fillers. No one, no one got back. But it was funny. You're just saying that he came to the table. You look like that's why the character Oliver from the old movie. Alms for the poor. Just kind of had that forlorn look on your face. Tony just did the thing into the camera. So Charlie, Charlie, Charlie calling us. It was actually a gift. I texted him over the weekend. Yes. And then he texted me like 20 minutes before 240. He was like, hope this isn't too late. I'm like, no, it's not. You are on the show, sir. Perfect. You're on. And he was worthwhile. He was awesome. He joined us. He was awesome. Do we want to go to him now or do we need to? No, let's go now a little bit time. Let's go now. Yeah. Let's go now. All right. Well, if you missed it, Charlie Hoffman joined us earlier. Here he is. Our guy Charlie Hoffman is here though. And we just, we just love it when Charlie comes on the show, PGA golf tour, professional, Poway zone. And you know, nice enough to spend a little time with us here on this Monday afternoon. Charlie, how you been? Good to talk to you, sir. All good. And join a nice week off here in sunny San Diego. Nice to see the June gloom sort of go away. June gloom has gone away. We've also, yeah, we've given way to July first. And first of all, I want to ask about this tournament yesterday. If you saw this, the rocket mortgage tournament in Detroit and, you know, as a professional golfer, you probably have a feeling like no other when you see something like this happen. Yeah, is it? And he's got a 30 foot spot needs a two foot to four supply off. And, um, and then the second put was what four foot three four footer and a lift out. Cam Davis gets the win. Cam Davis even said he wouldn't wish that on anybody, even though he was the winner. How does, how much pain is that for some? I mean, I don't know that the guy sleeps for a month after missing that one. Well, if you've played golf long enough, we've all been there. Akshay is obviously one of our younger brighter stars on the PGA tour. And, you know, he played some phenomenal golf. I happened to catch literally maybe the last hole or two of that golf tournament. I was down, hanging out with the family down by the beach. But, you know what? It's one of those, the guy who played so amazing, had to have three put all week, and then nothing all I have to do is too public. Because that first putt was that TV doesn't do justice on that green, how much undulation there is on that green. So it, the putty miss wasn't an easy putt now. He should have probably, that first putt should have been a little bit closer, but it's one of those. You don't, you don't, you want to win golf tournaments, you never want to lose them. I've lost them, I've won some. But he, he, he's obviously going to be kicking himself because he played some amazing golf. And, and he didn't get a chance to go a few extra holes with Cam, and came with a beneficiary of it. Charlie, I feel like every time we have, you know, especially lately, we've had to ask like, you know, kind of tough golf questions, state of golf. So I'm starting a little different this time. Padre's playing some good baseball. Are you following them right now? How are you feeling as a Padre fan watching this team? Play some better baseball. You know, we, I, I took the family to a game a few weeks ago against Oakland, and it was a blast, and they won in a walk-off fashion. It was one of those walk-off wins. And it was, it was fun to be part of. And then they went on their losing streak. They went on the run when they were losing three minutes off the fire afterwards. So to say the least, I try to, I try to stay engaged via being on the East Coast and doing, doing playing golf or living, you know, I don't rarely catch live games. But it's, it's fun to watch them play some, some decent baseball. And hopefully I get a run for the playoff because I think our team's breathing good. And it's a, I think got the power to go, go a long distance in the playoffs. Charlie Hoffman, our guy on the PGA tour, our guest here on Gwen and Chris and Charlie, I mean, follow up with another short putt question. Well, you, you guys, you guys missed the Portugal this one. Oh, thank you. I'm sweating it out. I'm going to do my seed here. Got both of you guys watching this Portugal soccer thing. I couldn't find it on TV in the break. Yes. Gravy couldn't find it on our TV. He doesn't know where it is. So, wow, thank you, Charlie, for the update. And Portugal is thankfully through to the Euro quarter finals. That is great news. That is great news. But I'm going to ask you about another short putt and that's Rory at the US Open. And I know we, I don't know, maybe we like to, to, to try to make Rory out to be the bad guy. But did he owe it to us? You know, we're there, the media I'm talking about. We're there when he wins. We're there, you know, when things happen. You know, he missed it. I can totally get how frustrating it had to be. But was that the right move? Or do you understand him kind of just getting out of there and heading for the hills after that US Open? I'm trying to figure out a way to answer this question without become some sort of viral sensation. If there was a period of time where he couldn't keep the mic out of Rory's mouth about what he wanted to talk to her in the state of golf and the PJ tour. And then when the, I would say the most candid time in someone's life when you should answer those questions because there's a reason why we're making millions of dollars in this because of media. And yes, he does owe it to the fans. And yes, he does need to do that interview. We've, like I said, I've never lost the US Open. I've lost golf tournaments. But yeah, you do, you do, you owe it to everybody to do that. And that's just part of the gig is the answer to the hard questions and the hard times. And that's why people tune in to watch. And that's how you, that's how you have fans and why you have fans. And, and unfortunately he did not do that. I'm sure if you, if I talked to him or someone else talked to me, probably wish he had a mullion on that and had a, had a redo. But yeah, I think he should have answered those questions in a question. Fair enough. Certainly. Wasn't the first guy who, who's ever lost a big tournament like in the fashion that he did. And at least in my recollection, all of them stood in front of those cameras afterwards. It was a little disappointed to see it go down like that. But you know, Charlie, I got to ask you in terms of, you know, the PGA live, where, where are we at with the state of the PGA right now? You know, Bryson DeChamble wins that US Open, obviously on the live roster. Does that matter? Where are we at the state of PGA? Let's start there. Yeah. We'll go, we'll go back one second. I, when, when media is, I will say, of the purses, not of Roy's revenue is nearly 70% of the purses is our media contract. You owe it to the media to do it back to what he should have done. So you got to know where you're, where you're, where you're getting fed from. So, but, but on the note of the live in the PGA tour, thank God, since Jan 1, I've been off the board and I thought it was good easier for these guys once, once everything was going on. But it seems to be just getting harder and harder. But I know they're in, obviously, I know as much as probably you guys know as a media knows, they're in discussion. There is talking going on, which I believe in when I slowed down a lot of last year, you know, obviously there's not much to record on them in the last year. But we have a great partner with SSG, which is enabling us to, I would say hopefully partner with PIP and come up with the strategic plan to be partners going forward because I think if you break it all down, what's best for the game of golf? In the world is for all of us to be together and play under one umbrella and not be separate, separate identities. So where are we at with that? I don't know. But I think, I think after the period of time that lives going on in producing a product, there's not a lot of, I mean, it's gaining momentum, but not a ton of momentum. The major championships, I personally think, have gained from them. They could argue that they lose some of those live player because not world ranking points and so on and so forth. But their top players are playing the majors. And it gives the spike to the major championship. They've already had the spike. I mean, people want to watch us all play together. So more people are even tuning in, or I would say in general, for the game of golf during the major championships, our ratings are pretty stagnant, not going up, not going down, I would say for the most part. But it's something that to gain our fans back and the loyalty of our fans. I think we sort of need to be together and give the best product out there for you guys to watch. We're entertainers. I mean, we're competitors, but I mean, the reason why we make my, I mean, we're all competitors, but the reason why we're playing for the millions of dollars is because of the fans watching it and the engagement that we have with them. And I mean, what Price did was a riveting with the fans. I mean, he sort of turned over a whole new leaf from when he was on the PJ Tour to live tour. And he's engaged probably more than anybody on the PJ Tour right now. And it was great to watch him embrace all the fans and do what he did and show them, most of me showed. And I'm a golf fan also. I'm a player, but I'm a fan. And it was great to watch. And obviously, like he said, he didn't want to see really miss a three footer and went it that way. But Bryson went out and won that golf tournament. He got up and down from Ford and probably the hardest, if you ask every professional golfer, the harder shot in all the golf is a 50 yard bunker shot. And he stuffed the six feet in US Open Conditions and US Open Pressure. You got to take your hat off to that and say, well done, Bryson. And then the way he answered the questions and his interviews were great. So, I mean, if I guarantee Bryson, all of a sudden earned a lot more fans because of that performance than Rory did, that's for sure. Yeah. Scrabby's been a Bryson hater for a long time. Thanks, Chris. Who's coming along in a Rory lover to say Rory lover. Yeah, we're not talking in a weird spot. We're going to flip top you here as you should. Charlie Hoffman is with us. Charlie's had a couple of top tens this year on tour. And, you know, I mean, again, I think that's remarkable. I, you know, you're you're been in the game for so long, Charlie. I mean, 47 years old is, you know, that's it's a mole. Yeah, you're still the man as far as some of us are concerned, but to finish the game in the game of professional sports, I'm old. I mean, no, there's no game of life. I'm not. There's no doubt in professional sports. And I mean, to have two top tens and you talked about you just wanted to be healthy. You just wanted to feel good. Where are we here as we hit the midway point of the sea? I mean, are you still holding up good? I'm holding up good. My team that I've established through trainers, chiropractors, swing instructors, we're all kicking on all cylinders, everything, everything is great. It's actually a it's been good traveling. It's usually my hardest part. I think we figured something out with some new gadgets while I fly to keep sort of the blood flow going and everything going. And it's really worked out as of late. So I feel healthy. I mean, there's this life in general. I mean, I was out on the water this morning on the jet speed, daughter, wakeboarding and no pain usually sitting down pain going over bumps is pain, zero pain whatsoever. I feel great. I now that could change tomorrow night because I've been through this before, but as of right this second, everything is great. And I'm looking forward to going. I took this week off the sort of strategic we're hanging out with the family. As I say, you can't buy memories in that and you got to make them. So it's been a time with a family during the summer here in San Diego as I'm trying to take trying to play golf competitively. But most importantly, make sure my kids remember me and have a great time during the summers when we can spend some time together. Yeah. Well, we really appreciate you taking some time out to hang out with us. Don't pull a muscle answering this last question, Charlie, but I am playing Tory Pines for the first time ever on Friday. And I'm, I got to be honest, I mean, I'm pretty freaked out about it. Freaked out. I am. I don't know. It's a golf course. Yeah. Well, but you've seen me on, you know, certain courses, things don't always go my way. I mean, I'm, you know, I think I'm good enough to play a little over bogey golf, but I just give me anything I can take with me out to the course Friday, Charlie. I'll, it'll be forever appreciated. You know, Tory, Tory, you're playing the south, I assume. Yes, we are. Yeah. Yeah, we are. The south golf course is the use of them, caliber golf course. Now the roughs, I assume, not going to be up. I haven't been out there since January, so it would. Our guy, Charlie Hoffman is here though. And we just, we just love it when Charlie comes on the show, PGA golf tour, professional, Poway zone. And, you know, nice enough to spend a little time with us here on this Monday afternoon. Charlie, how you been? Good to talk to you, sir. All good. And join a nice week off here in sunny San Diego. Nice to see the June gloom, sort of go away. June gloom has gone away. We've also, yeah, we've given way to July 1st. And first of all, I want to ask you about this tournament yesterday. And if you saw this, the rocket mortgage tournament in Detroit and, you know, as a professional golfer, you probably have a feeling like no other when you see something like this happen. Yeah, is it? And he's got a 30 foot spot needs a two putt to force a playoff. And, and then the second putt was what? Four foot, three four footer and a lift out. Cam Davis gets the win. Cam Davis even said he wouldn't wish that on anybody, even though he was the winner. How does, how much pain is that for some? I mean, I don't know that the guy sleeps for a month after missing that one. Well, if you've played golf long enough, we've all been there actually, obviously one of our younger, brighter stars on the PGA tour. And, you know, he played for phenomenal golf. I, I happen to catch literally maybe the last hole or two of that golf tournament. I was down, hanging out with a family down by the beach. But, you know what? It's one of those, the guy who played so amazing, had to have three putt all week. And then nothing, all he has to do is two putt because that first putt was, that TV doesn't do justice on that, that green, how much undulation there is on that green. So it, the putty miss wasn't a needy putt now. He should have probably, that first, I should have been a little bit closer, but it's one of those. You don't, you don't, you want to win golf tournaments. You never want to lose them. I've lost them, I've won some. But he, he, he's obviously going to be kicking himself because he played some amazing golf and didn't get a chance to go a few extra holes with Cam and came with the beneficiary of it. Charlie, I feel like every time we have you on, especially lately, we've had to ask like, you know, kind of tough golf questions, state of golf. So I'll start a little different this time. Padres playing some good baseball. Are you following them right now? How you feeling as a Padres fan watching this team play some better baseball? You know what? I, I, I took the family to a game a few weeks ago against Oakland and it was a blast. And they won in a walk off fashion. It was one of the walk off wins. And it was, it was fun to be part of. And then they went on their losing streak. They went on the run. So to say the least, I try to, I try to stay engaged via being on the East Coast and doing, doing playing golf or living, you know, I don't rarely catch live games. But it's, it's fun to watch them play some, some decent baseball. And hopefully I get a run for the playoffs because I think our team's freezing good. And it's a, I think got the power to go, go a long distance in the playoffs. Charlie Hoffman, our guy on the PGA tour, our guest here on Gwen and Chris and Charlie, I mean, follow up with another short putt question. You guys, you guys missed the Portugal this one. Oh, thank you. I'm sweating it out. I did it to my seed here. Got both of you guys watching this Portugal soccer thing. I couldn't find it on TV in the break. Yes, Gravy couldn't find it on our TV. He doesn't know where it is. So, well, thank you Charlie for the update. And Portugal is thankfully through to the Euro quarter finals. That is great news. That is great news. But I'm going to ask you about another short putt and that's Rory at the US Open. And I know we, I don't know, maybe we like to, to, to try to make Rory out to be the bad guy. But did he owe it to us? You know, we're there, the media I'm talking about. We're there when he wins. We're there, you know, when things happen. You know, he missed it. I can totally get how frustrating it had to be. But was that the right move or do you understand him kind of just getting out of there and heading for the hills after that US Open? I'm trying to figure out a way to answer this question without becoming some sort of viral sensation. There was a period of time where he couldn't keep the mic out of Rory's mouth about what he wanted to talk to her in the state of golf in the PJ tour. And then when the, I would say the most candid time in someone's life when you should answer those questions because there's a reason why we're making millions of dollars in this because of media. And yes, he does owe it to the fans. And yes, he does need to do that interview. Like I said, I've never lost the US Open. I've lost golf tournaments. But yeah, you do, you owe it to everybody to do that. And that's just part of the gig is to answer the hard questions and the hard times. And that's why people tune in to watch. And that's how you, that's how you have fans and why you have fans. And, and unfortunately, he did not do that. I'm sure if you, if I talked to him or someone else talked to me, probably wish he had a mulligan on that and had a redo. But uh, yeah, I think he should answer those questions in a question. Fair enough. Certainly wasn't the first guy who, who's ever lost a big tournament like in the fashion that he did. And at least in my recollection, all of them stood in front of those cameras afterwards. It was a little disappointed to see it go down like that. But you know, Charlie, I got to ask you, in terms of, you know, the PGA live, where, where are we at with the state of the PGA right now? You know, Bryson DeChamble wins that US Open, obviously on the live roster. Does that matter? Where are we at the state of PGA? Let's start there. Yeah, we'll go, we'll go back one second. I went, when media is, I will say, of the purses, not of Rory's revenue, is nearly 70% of the purses is our media contract. You owe it to the media to do it back to what he should have done. So you got to know where you're, where you're getting fed from. So, but, but on the note of the live in the PGA tour, thank God since Jan 1, I've been off the board and uh, I thought it would get easier for these once, once everything was going on. But it seems to be just getting harder and harder. But I know they're in, obviously, I know as much as probably you guys know as a media knows, they're in discussion. There is talking going on, which I believe in when I slowed down a lot of last year, you know, obviously there was not much to record on that in the last year. But we have a great partner with SSG, which is enabling us to, I would say hopefully partner with PIP and come up with the strategic plan to be partners going forward. Because I think if you break it all down, what's best for the game of golf? In the world is for all of us to be together and play under one umbrella and not be separate, separate identities. So, where are we at with that? I don't know. But I think I think after the period of time that lives going on in producing a product, there's not a lot of, I mean, it's gaining momentum, but not a ton of momentum. The major championships I personally think have gained from them. They could argue that they lose some of those live players because not a world ranking points and so on and so forth. But their top players are playing the majors. And it gives the spike to the major championship. They've already had the spike. I mean, people want to watch us all play together. So, more people are even tuning in, I would say, in general, for the game of golf during the major championships. Our ratings are pretty stagnant, not going up, not going down, I would say, for the most part. But it's something that to gain our fans back and the loyalty of our fans. I think we sort of need to be together and get the best product out there for you guys to watch. We're entertainers. I mean, we're competitors, but I mean, the reason why we make my mean world competitors, but the reason why we're playing for the millions of dollars is because of the fans watching it and the engagement that we have with them. And I mean, what Price ended was the riveting with the fans. I mean, he sort of turned over a whole new leaf from when he was on the PJ Tour to live tour. And he's engaged probably more than anybody on the PJ Tour right now. And it was great to watch him embrace all the fans and do what he did and show the emotion he showed. And I'm a golf fan also. I'm a player, but I'm a fan. And it was great to watch. And obviously, like he said, he didn't want to see really miss a three-footer. And he went it that way. But Price went out and won that golf tournament. He got it up and down from Ford and probably the hardest if he does every professional golfer, the harder shot in all the golf is a 50-yard bunker shot. And he stuffed the six feet in US Open editions and US Open pressure. You got to take your hat off to that and say, well done, Bryce. And then the way he answered the questions and his interviews were great. So I mean, I guarantee Bryce and all of a sudden earned a lot more fans because of that performance and then Rory did. That's for sure. Yeah. Scrabby's been a Brice and Hader for a long time. Thanks, Chris. He's coming along in a Rory lover to say Rory lover. Yeah. We're going to get a weird spot. We're going to flop you here as you should. Charlie Hoffman is with us. Charlie's had a couple of top 10s this year on tour. And, you know, I mean, again, I think that's remarkable. You know, you're been in the game for so long, Charlie. I mean, 47 years old is, you know, that sits. I'm old. You're still young man, as far as some of us are concerned, but to finish. In the game in the game of professional sports, I'm old. I mean, now in the game of life, I'm not. There's no doubt in professional sports. And I mean, to have two top 10s and you talked about, you just wanted to be healthy. You just wanted to feel good. Where are we here as we hit the midway point of the sea? I mean, are you still holding up good? I'm holding up good. My team that I've established through trainers, chiropractors, swing instructors, we're all kicking on all cylinders, everything's great. It's actually a it's been good traveling. It's usually my hardest part. I think we figured something out with some new gadgets, why to keep sort of the blood flow going and everything going. And it's really worked out as of late. So I feel healthy. I mean, this life in general, I mean, I was out on the water this morning on the jet speed, daughter, wakeboarding and no pain usually sitting down, pain going over bumps, this pain, zero pain whatsoever. I feel great. Now that could change tomorrow night because I've been through this before, but right this second, everything's great. And I'm looking forward to going. I took this week off the sort of strategically hanging out with the family. As I say, you can't buy memories in that and you got to make them. So it's been a time with the family during the summer here in San Diego. I'm trying to take trying to play golf competitively, but most importantly, make sure my kids remember me and have a have a great time during the summers when we can spend some time together. Yeah, well, we really appreciate you taking some time out to hang out with us. Don't pull a muscle answering this last question, Charlie, but I am playing Tory Pines for the first time ever on Friday. And I'm, I gotta be honest, I mean, I'm pretty freaked out about it. Freaked out. I am. I don't want to. It's a golf course. Yeah, well, but you've seen me on, you know, certain courses, things don't always go my way. I mean, I'm, you know, I think I'm good enough to play a little over bogey golf, but just give me anything I can take with me out to the course Friday, Charlie. I'll, it'll be forever appreciated. You know, Tory, Tory, you're playing the South, I assume. Yes, we are. Yeah, we are. South golf course is the use of them, caliber golf course. Now the rough, I assume not going to be up. I haven't been out there since January or February. So what do you want to do at Tory? It's actually not that demanding the golf course off the tee, I would say. I mean, it's a long golf course. So if you play the correct key, so don't, you don't need to play all the way back and make a play, whatever, 7,500 yards, whatever it is, just go out and play the correct key. But most importantly, the greens are, the greens are structured very hard to almost repel balls and like the back, little shelf hits the center of the green. Don't, don't worry about where that pin is and try to, try to make a putt from the center of the green, because getting up and down around those greens is some, sometimes challenging. So I wouldn't try to challenge those pins too much and try to hit those center of the greens and hopefully make a couple long puts for birdie. Ah man, I'm, so I made a long one today and I think that used it up for the week. Can you explain bogey golf? Now that you have a professional golfer. Hold on, you made a long cut. You made it for the week or the year? I'm not. Maybe the year. This one was long enough to baby. I use it for the year. I think you're right, Charlie. Yeah, Matt gets mad at me because I, in my head, I play bogey golf. So I, I add a, I add a stroke to every hole. And if I get a bogey, then I call it a par in my head. I say that's not a thing. Matt gets mad at it for doing that, but I don't know. That's how I make my way around the course. So I don't know what your thoughts on that are, but your thoughts are whatever you, you know your handicap and that's what's great about the game of golf is if you keep a valid handicap, I could go give you a X amount of shots and we could have a great competition. That's what's great about it. If you're relevant, what par is for someone, I would say average golfers, but if you keep, if you actually keep score, you can have a great round or a great competition with anybody, no matter what their hand. I mean, I like the game with the guys on the golf course and I've had some of my best matches against the 17 or 14 handicap because guess what? They're getting a shot on every single hole and I've got to play my butt off. They make a par, it's a birdie. They make a birdie, it's an eagle. So I, I really enjoy those, sometimes those competitions amongst friends that are getting a ton of strokes is it makes me sort of, I mean, every shot means something because if you make a par, I've got to make a birdie. But so your thought process is fine, but I would challenge you to maybe try to make some par for birdies, not just bogey for par's. Yes. One of these days, challenge. One of these days, one of these days, maybe not Friday, but maybe the next time after that. Charlie, thanks so much for joining us. Have a great happy 4th of July and you know, you're welcome anytime. So you're, you know, you want to check in, just give us a call. We love to have you on and good luck. Enjoy the week with your family. Thanks, fella. Enjoy the fourth also and we'll talk soon. Charlie Hoffman getting it done and we really appreciate it. As mentioned, little Charlie never heard anybody coming up next. He's got a Scravenator t-shirt on. So he's ready for an hour of the Scravey Chronicles. 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