Hamish Brayshaw joined Scott Cummings and Tim Gossage to dissect the woeful loss to St Kilda on the road.
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SEN WA Breakfast
Hammertime - West Coast White Flag (22/07/2024)
I've been pretty harsh this morning on West Coast. I think they're empty. Yeah. What they saw, what we saw against the kill of their empty. And I named one player. I did it yesterday and I'll name it again. That I felt who basically sums up what their list looks like and where they have to make some tough decisions. And that's Jamie Crips. Jamie had just a day to forget. He has been good this year. Really good. But I reckon eventually it wears you down the bounce of the ball doesn't go your way. You don't chase, you don't tackle. And I just watched him with the open eyes and thinking, you know, he will set the standard. No tackles inside forward 50, 21 new tackles inside 50 against St. Kilda and St. Kilda 17 goals. Yeah. And I'll just look at Criper and I think I love him and we've loved him. He's premiership player and has been good this year. But I think the cliff came very quickly for a lot of players on the weekend. Yeah, it's as to what's left in the tank, it is bare and dry and starting to rust because there is not a lot to give. I think you saw against Brisbane, the dropped or the sacked coach response, which is often the way with a lot of teams when a new coach comes in, they came out with flair. They had sort of, they had all this youth that was just free to do whatever they want. And they got close to a premiership favourite. And that doesn't last very long. And I think now they're going to really struggle. They've got, they would have thought North Melbourne was a winnable game, but they've got, you know, North Melbourne have taken it up to Carlton and they're, you know, they're in reasonably good form. Gold Coast here. Gold Coast here, that's the one that they're thinking, oh, can, but Gold Coast to be looking at that game, thinking we'd break in the curse this week, no question about it. Fremantle, I just can't see them happening. Can't see the same thing happening in the first Derby. They've got a run home that would have on paper appeared good. And now I think it's just going to be a real tough slog to the finish line for the West Coast Eagles. From your point of view, haven't I? And we've been saying for a long time, they haven't made hard calls over the years and that's why they're in this mess. Now they have to make some that what could possibly be savage calls at the end of this season as a player. If you're on that list as a player, is it detrimental to see not your mates, but players get maybe torched by the club to say, no, we have to go in another direction. Sorry, you're gone. Do you look at it as a player and go, geez, that's harsh. And what are they going to do that to me next year? Or do you go, no, boys, it's a reset. And we've have to make these hard calls if we're going to go anywhere. Can it deflate you? I think it can deflate you, but I think after three years of of real pain and hurt, I don't think it'll be a surprise. And I think guys will be expecting that to happen. I think just on the men with the brutal and the savage cuts at the end of the year, they can't cut everyone. So they've got to have, you know, you're not going to be able to have 15 go and 15 drafted because the talent isn't going to be there. And I think they've got to have a good balance and it'll be the guys like Crippa who is going to be, that'll be the tough calls, you know, whether or not he adds a level of experience that these younger guys can learn off for another year, or if it's just, I know you've still got something to offer if you can offer it somewhere else, go for it. But otherwise we need someone new. They'll be the really hard ones and can't cut everyone, but it's going to have to be pretty tough back into the year. And then that opens up the question we spoke about. I mentioned this yesterday on the broadcast that I have, I'm not saying he's going to get the job, but I'm hearing the jungle drums have been beating over the weekend. Ken Hinckley's starting to emerge as a contender, as on the wanted list. What are your thoughts on that? And I'm still confused as to, and you guys are the experts, but just tell us which, what do they need? And I know they need to decide as a football club. Do they need a development coach, a Hanson stroke Graham, or do they need, Hinckley, Chris Scott, John Longwell? We know they've all got some credentials to senior blokes, but is that what the club needs if they're bottomed out? Yeah, the thing is, too, and the decision to make is, is the next person they coach, who they appoint coach, is he going to be a premiership coach? Or is he going to be a three to five year, get us to the rebuild and then we bring someone else into take us that next step? So there's decisions they make. We asked it before, do they go an untried coach? Do they go a senior coach who's done it? He's just saying, Hinckley. And do you want the job, if you think that you're not going to be the premiership coach, you're going to be there to do a role for the club for a short period of time? I think you should look at Hawthorne and think there's your mold. We've got Sam Mitchell in, who is not necessarily a developing coach. He's had a long time in the, he was in the system for a long time, but he was still four or five years into being a coach. And the way that he has approached that list is, "Hey guys, you're all young, I'm young. Let's just have fun and do what we want." They are cool on the field. They've got a bit of swagger about them. And all their flares and their personalities are allowed to show on the field, whereas you get an old school, you know, Ken Hinckley, I use as an example, you get a senior coach who's been around the system for 20 years. He's not letting Jack Ginnovin turn to the crowd and put them to sleep. He's saying, "Oh mate, let's just play with it." But Sam Mitchell says, "Boys, let's do it. Let's play on that edge. Let's play with Flair." I think it's a risk to go and get a young coach and say, "I do that." But I think there's the mold. They've, Hawthorne were a poxelist two years ago and everyone would look at them and think they're going to have a really strong, you know, four or five year rebuild. But they've turned it around in a year and a half. And I think that's, if you're the West Coast Eagles, it's going to be a tough mold to shake for the staunch West Coast supporters who are, you know, died in the wall and very, very traditional. But I think you've got to go down that route. -Today, you might be the one to answer this day. Today almost get, it's been putting us in silly as psychologists. We're talking about different people now. So, Goss and I, obviously, from an old school. And you're in the system now and you see young guys and how they act. And then we're on the prime example of that. Do they almost need to get a psychologist to analyze their entire list of who they've got left and what they like and what they don't like and what they can handle and what they can't handle before they go on a point of coach? -Oh, look, it's not the worst idea. I don't think you should let the animals run the zoo and there's got to be a level of someone coming in to sort of set their standard. But I think if you can have a good blend of we're setting an example, but we're letting you guys do your thing, which I think San Mitchell has done perfectly, that'll really work for them. Because they've got talented young kids. But at the moment, they're all playing in there with the exception of Harley Reid. They're all playing inside themselves and they're all sort of, you know, they've got to shell around them because they're scared to do anything. Whereas I think if you give someone that job, like one of these young guys who are, you know, going to take their first senior job, I think you can let them just break free of that and really show talent. And I think that's what Hawthorne's done and here's your strength. Boys can't play to it and it's shown that it works.