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"It could derail Sydney" - David Schwarz (16/07/2024)

Melbourne Great and AFL Nation, David Schwarz, joined Scot Cummings and Tim Gossage to discuss the recent news and headlines out of the AFL. They touch on suspension news, Dean Cox and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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15 Jul 2024
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Melbourne Great and AFL Nation, David Schwarz, joined Scot Cummings and Tim Gossage to discuss the recent news and headlines out of the AFL. They touch on suspension news, Dean Cox and more.

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Were they back in business or were Essendon poor and just didn't really adapt to the wet weather at all? I don't think it was Melbourne so much. I thought Essendon played a really, really silly game of 40. They weren't brave. They got a tip, top two spot on the line and they tried to play too cute. I thought they played safe and they came back to bite them. They did what Hawthorne did to Melbourne, they were thinking about around four, where they tried to play the chip game and it just doesn't, you can't do that against Melbourne. The way to be Melbourne is just go and get the Fremantle tape from Ella Springs and that will show you how to beat them. You make them accountable and you take them on through the corridor and you run and run and run and rest and refuse to do that. So, yeah, I think they lost that game. Melbourne are going to do what they're going to do and it was enough to beat them. So, calling it in the box Scotty, I was very, very chuffed. Very, very chuffed. Very hard to be unboiled. Very hard to be unboiled. It's going to take you to Friday night. Where are the pies that made? Are they? Well, Connolly Onn, who's been selected in the Australian T20 team, he's a pies man. Where are they at? Is it fixable? They're problems at the moment or is that look like curtains for them this far out? I reckon the key injuries that they've had that have curtailed any real charge they're going to make. And the hunger's not there. They're not the same hungry side that they were last year, so I think Murphy early was a huge loss, my check not playing. Allied in and out, Cox gone, they've got no flexibility through the midfield. The goys missed the chunk of the season, yeah, they've just had no continuity. So, I don't know, I think they've been really good. They've lost some really close games, they've been in it up to their eyelids against my side. So, they're not horrible and they're still having a go. You can never criticise Collin Wood for not giving 100% effort, they just, it's just those are the 1% of the moment in their hunger, it's probably not there. We see so much now, Cox, in today's footy, where if there is one defender missing, the other one generally gets exposed because they all, you know, and you talk about Barris and McGovern, you talk about Lever and May and across the board, when there's two key defenders, they rely on each other so, so much, when one's gone, the other one gets exposed a little bit. Is this what we're seeing, like the loss of Nathan Murphy early to concussion and retirement, has that been the key factor in exposing Darcy Moore? Yeah, I think they're so rare, to find good defenders, we saw it was this way with orthon, he didn't play, they got belted. And I know, they'll down it's a long and all that sort of stuff, but they're key defenders for a reason. They get the job done, they always take a good player, and when you have good symmetry between a couple of them, well, it's even more powerful. So I agree, Scotty, I think you're having your key back when standing up. Yeah, we'll get Carlton, when Wittering got injured a couple of weeks ago, when he got that core key, you know, the game flipped on a dime, so it happens fast and, you know, we say that one player doesn't make a result, but, gee, I think we're seeing it more and more than ever, that actually it does make a result, and it does make a huge difference. David Schwartz, AFL nation Melbourne champion for Sonos, multi-room listening wireless home theatre, and a whole lot more. Our talk over here is the replacement for Adam Simpson, there's another six weeks to go, Jared Scowfield took the reins, and we saw some changes on the ground, and a bit of style I took on Brisbane. What sort of coach, in your opinion, now, that the deck is cleared to replace Adam Simpson, and there's been silence out of Sydney, I'm calling on Dean Cox to make a public statement in one way or the other, whether he wants to stay long-term as an assistant and replace John Lomar in five years' time, whatever that may be, or put his hand up for the Eagles job. What's your thoughts on that, and what's your thoughts on who the Eagles need, Ox? Well, I think a quality person, I think Cox would be ideal, and if I'm Dean Cox, I want to get out of that Sydney box, because all he does is get screened up by John Lomar. He's a whipping boy, I'd be out of there straightaway. You've got to remember John Lomar was a play manager many, many moons ago. He's actually my first play manager that I had, and so he knows the system. I think it'd be disrespectful for Dean Cox to come out publicly straightaway and give his intentions. There's no doubt his management behind the scenes is speaking to the right people, and whilst they've got a finals campaign on the line, I reckon Dean Cox has too much class to say, "Yeah, I'm putting my hand up until this job is done with Sydney, but behind the scenes, I wouldn't be surprised if he's already signaled that his intentions would be that if the job is available, he will be putting his hand up." Definitely left here, Coxie. You cannot hear a thing in his left hand. I'm of complete different viewpoint on that. I'm on polar opposites, I'm 180 from that. I think because of the speculation that can only be confusing for Sydney, confusing for West Coast. I know you're going to say what's happening behind the scenes, but footy is not behind the scenes. Footy is a very public game, and I think everyone at West Coast, be that members and supporters and Sydney members and supporters, I think because his name is such at the point of the end of both clubs at the moment, some form of guidance is required right now, because if the word is right, Cox, that he's staying, and he doesn't want to, and he got no contract with John Longwire or Sydney to coach in 2026 and beyond, but if he is hell-bent on happy in Sydney, why doesn't he just come out and say, "I'm not going to go back to WA. I'm happy here whether it be second in charge or whether it be future coach, whatever that may be." Don't you think that would be better for all parties? No, because I reckon that if he was staying at Sydney, that would have already been announced. So I reckon he's got to play his cards close to his chest, and he's got to do it behind scenes because he's the sort of person, he's got on a, he's got an honourable boat, he's not going to, he's not going to grapple over Sydney whilst they've got their best chance at, you know, playing in the grand final and possibly winning one until the time is right, and he'd be speaking with horse and, you know, the Sydney hierarchy, in exactly that. You know, they just don't need anything to, you know, ruffle feathers, and, you know, the last thing you want is a boat walking into the change rooms knowing that he's going to be going somewhere else, because it affects the trust, worthiness within the group. And I reckon it's only bad things can happen. I reckon if they play behind the scenes, they just say, "Look, we're going to make the decision after Sydney's campaign is over, so be patient, and we will make that decision at the time, but we're not being disrespectful to a club that he's been involved with for over a decade." And you find a lot of the time, too, if the assistant coach says, "I'm going to go and coach here or I'm going there," they get rid of him straight away, and that's what I'm saying. But I think that's what I'm saying, that's exactly the reason, that's why he has to say something. No, no, no, no, that's the wrong reason, because if you get rid of him, you lose a huge chess piece in being able to, hopefully, win a grand final for a side that you've been involved with. Sydney are going to blow up a finals campaign for Dean Cox for the sake of telling a few supporters four weeks earlier than what they need to. So you telling me that Dean Cox is, if Dean Cox is not in the coaches box for the next six games, and whether they're four games, and then the finals campaign, that's going to derail Sydney. Do you think the work's not been done? No, I reckon a good derail Sydney, because there'll be players who aren't at Dean Cox. There'll be players who have his trust that he's working with on a daily basis, that he has worked with for the last 10 years, just let's just pick a play, Chad Warner. Chad Warner's form's going well. He's got his confidant in Dean Cox. Dean Cox is no longer there. Chad Warner's, you know, his world's not turned upside down, but certainly it has changed significantly. And he's a big, he's a big figure within that club. He's not just a, you know, I did a talk up there two years ago. Dean Cox is right in the middle of everything that's happening. So I just wouldn't upset the Apple card. I don't think Sydney would. They're too professional. They're too smart. They'll deal with it. And a statement will be made in a week. I can almost read it now. Dean Cox is a contracted person here at the Sydney Swans, and we won't be talking until the end of our campaign. And do you think he'll coach the West Coast Eagles next year? Yes, I do. Yes. So he goes out on a flag and then comes back. I can see both of those. West Coast mates are left over, do they? Well, they're going to have to. But no, I think what Ox is saying about it. No, Ox, no, it's like what he's saying is that the deal will be done. The deal will be done. If Cox is the coach of the West Coast Eagles, it'll be understood. It'll be understood between parties, between management, between the Eagles, between Sydney. They just won't do anything to after the final, if they make it. The silence is different. It's rare that a coach gets sacked without a contingency plan up this week. Yeah. So they would have had sprinkles into Dean Cox probably eight weeks ago. There you go. There you go. If anything, what have you made of the player's suspensions? Obviously, Toby Bedford, Charlie Cameron. Well, Goss and I yesterday, he said here, I said, "I just don't think Charlie Cameron gets anything. I don't think he'll be OK with this one, but he's got three. We couldn't have been further from the truth." No, they've got to fix it. They've just got to fix it. Any juggle can be dangerous. Now, are we going to change the charter of the whole AFL about tackling? No, we're not. Because the charter isn't able to be changed. So what they've got to do is they've got to sort of that, they've got to work out. And it's not Michael Christians' fault. This is the AFL Commission and the Holorock of the AFL getting the wording right and getting the interpretation right so that tackling is a huge part of the game. And we see, I don't know any tackles per game, let's say it's 50 tackles again, it's a hundred tackles a game. At the moment, people don't know. If that bit to one is a three-week suspension, we're going to have less players playing over the next month than we've ever seen before. And they're not dangerous tackles, they're tackles that are bringing place to ground. The only way they can change it so the players don't get hurt is you cannot tackle plays to the ground. You've got to tackle them standing up. And then what will happen is every play that's being tackled will drop their knees and go to the ground and it'll be freaky. We're going to have 12 after game. And the game will be stuffed. And the game will be stuffed. Yeah, 12 asterisks is on the ground limit or not. Yeah, yeah, well the top ten, one over chance of winning and the blokes will be winning. Scotty has a little ferret sitting out on the wing to refuse to tackle. So here's a system, couldn't agree more on boss, couldn't agree more. Alrighty Ox, let's get our teeth into the round because we know you love to tip early. Yeah, who you got this week, you know? Yeah, what game you got? I got two, I think I got Friday night and which is the Adelaide game and I've got, I've got a good one actually. AWS and Gold Coast. I'm looking forward to that one. Should be the one. You can watch Essen and run around again on Friday. Oh, I can't wait for that. Imagine the crows got up and beat the bomb race. Alrighty, well, there's where's your tip Essen and take on Adelaide, Marvel Stadium Friday night. Essen by 10 goals. Oh, we end off to a stinker. Yeah. Yeah, no, that don't be unexpected. They'll realise what they did wrong and they'll adjust, Adelaide, Adelaide don't have the cattle to go with Essen so I'll tell the bombers. GWS Giants, the Gold Coast on the road, they've been terrible. Yeah, they have been and I think GWS, and I don't think the time you've been for decision will change the result. I'll say GWS should get their chocolates, you know, they've got the white shorts on Scotty. I know you were very good with the white shorts on but... Didn't like them. But if we had the Gold Coast, the Gold Coast would be hopeless with the white shorts on. Non-slimming it all very bad, the white shorts. Sincilda, Marvel, lock this in, West Coast will beat Sincilda and the market is completely upside down, outside as West Coast, alarmingly so. It's four bucks for it. Unbelievable for it. That market is so wrong, Sincilda are stinking. Now, Tim, I know you're a thanks man. This year's reverse psychology 101, come on, surely, surely, surely. I'm not a Sincilda fan, I just don't think they're listed any good, but I just can't see the West Coast second game, they're up last week, but I can't see themselves getting up and beating Sincilda. I'm going to tip the Saints. They should win. It might be 54 versus 47, but I'm going to take Sincilda. They don't score. And when they try to score like they did against Sydney, they win. So if they want to go into a shootout with West Coast, they will lose. West Coast will want Sincilda to take this game on. Otherwise, if Sincilda want to make it six goals to five, West Coast will kick 12 and win. But if they want to make it 15 goals all, Sincilda have got a chance, but that's not the way Sincilda play. That's why I think West Coast will see. It's talking like West Coast of the Harlem Globetrotters, it's not as if they score 12 every week. The last game I saw them play, they took the game on with a bit more, a band of freedom, and they were very... Yeah, second week. Second week, post-coach-sacking is always a downer. It's always a flat man. They're playing Sincilda. I'm with Ox. I'm going. Sincilda mate. They're terrible. Thank you. One of the worst team to watch in football. I won't watch the game. But I'm telling you right now, I'll have to catch some highlights, but I'll be tipping Sincilda too. And we've got Hawks in the pies of the MCG, Ox. Oh, god, this is going to be a good game. I'm going to tip Collingwood. I'm still yet to be 100% convinced with Hawthorne. We saw it again, still long against the bigger bodies, and the more mature teams, they still stay in the struggle. This is the last chance we're going with, they don't win, and that's why I can fly, we'll have them chewing through bricks, but they may not take out a few and the pies get the chocolate that I want. Geelong are hosting the Bulldogs in Geelong. They've won their last three, the cats, they're back, they're back. And he tipped it out. How do you tip the doggies? Well, I'm going to go to this game, I'm sitting up in the president's lunch, so looking forward to a little bit of royalty at the Caterine. Well, when you're a local Scotty, when you live there in Geelong, do you get invited to special things like this? I wasn't invited, I had a spare ticket, so I'm just kind of, oh, god, I'm kind of just sleeping there, so I don't want to say, just a friend of a friend, and no, they'll win, they'll win. The doggies can't put two games together, and they're very, very difficult to beat down at the Caterine. So I'll take the cats with, and I'm loving Patrick Dangerfield's footies, the best footies I've seen him play for probably two years. Port Adelaide, Host Richmond? Yeah, they went. So Paul Wynn, Richmond are done and dusted, but telling you now, Port Adelaide could be the biggest pretenders in the game. They should have, they were horrible last week, horrible against Gold Coast. The Hall fans didn't have a touch in the first quarter, super disappointing for the three best midfielders in the game, or the best three midfielders in the game, they've just got to get more out of them, and we're quite as rosy and Hall fans as they should be able to do the job on Richmond. Alright, let's turn our fixtures to the Sunday, Brisbane and Sydney in Brisbane. Sydney will beat them. Brisbane, Brisbane are okay, but travelling back from the west, it's one of my big question marks. I think it's too much of an ask, Sydney will be very fresh after playing Melbourne. He's the longest flight in footy, Fremantle are taking on Melbourne here at Optus Stadium. Yeah, Fremantle, I'm worried about Melbourne travelling over and you did a number on the Paul Fremantle did a number on Melbourne last time. I'm going to tip Fremantle, but hopefully my demons can lift and maybe surprise another one. But are they favourites Fremantle? Yeah, it would be, wouldn't they? Yeah, they're very short-priced favourites, yeah. Yeah, the last one, mate, is your beloved Blues. Your beloved Blues, they've had a reset, I believe they've had a player's meeting and a reset, they'll just do what they need to do against Northwind though. They have to, they just have, it would be, it would be a wonderful day for all Australians and all the people of the world if North Melbourne happened to get a win. That would be... Can you imagine, Scotty? Can you imagine? Oh, I can just see Corey McKernan, you know, he played for both clubs proudly. I can just see him wearing his North Melbourne scarf and just celebrating, and it would be... I'd be dropping it up and down, like on Street for two days, if that happened. It would be beautiful. Good on you. I always love our chats, mate. Breakfast power by Kubota. Take on any job with Kubota's range of tractors miles and utility vehicles. We love our chats. We'll do it again next week. Thanks, boys. Here he is.