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So to help us, we brought in a reverse auctioneer, which is apparently a thing. - Mint Mobile Unlimited Premium Wireless. - Have it to get 30, 30, 30, 30, but to get 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, but to get 15, 15, 15, 15, just 15 bucks a month, so. - Give it a try at mintmobile.com/switch. - $45 up front for three months plus taxes and fees, promoting for new customers for limited time, unlimited more than 40 gigabytes per month, slows, full turns at mintmobile.com. - Okay, touch this. - On Scotty and Goss, it's hammer time. - Okay, touch this. - With Hamish Bracial, West Coast Poly Complete Tank Solutions. Tanks for Agriculture, Residential and Industry. West Coast Poly.com.au. Hammer Ratio rejoins us this time every Monday. Hammer, appreciate your time this morning. What's left in the tank for Adam Simpson? Good morning. - Oh, good morning. It's a tough question. I think that's what everyone's asking. Look, I think they were more competitive, but geez, they were just, it's still a no-and-go loss. I don't know how much these, I don't know how much that tank's got. Might have some cracks, might have some leaks, they've got some duct tape sticking over it, but look, it's they've been through worse. They have certainly been through worse at that 40 club over the last three years, but it feels a bit different this time, I think, doesn't it? - It certainly does. You can't give up seven first quarter goals, and then after that, Scotty, after that, we've spoken about this ad nauseam this morning, they were okay, they were okay, but there's nothing clinical what they do, it is almost forced footy, there's nothing smooth about what they do. - There's nothing exciting about it, and there's nothing that suggests that they're on the way up and they're on their improve and they're gonna get out of this mess that they're in. And it's not, and I did something strange hammer on the weekend, I jumped on a post, and I read the comments. I don't normally read the tweet, and I was, I'm glad I'm not semi, because it was just vitriol, and they've had enough for a lot of the supporters in, that's a very small cross-section of supporters, but they're after him now, and a lot of the equal supporters, well, the loud ones on socials, they've just at the end of their tether. - Yeah, I mean, I feel for him, because I look at that least, and think there's probably five guys playing on the weekend that will be there in 40 years. And if you're a coach of a football club, and that's the situation on Graham, with the list of players, you've got it. It's nearly impossible, and I mean, the nature of football is that head coaches are often the ones that have to make the change, but it's highly-read. Jake Waterman potentially, Oscar Allen, if his body holds up, Brady Hoff, you're sort of clutching its drawers to get much further past that, that you can sort of guarantee it will be on their listing file, it will be on their listing file for you, so it just makes it really hard. But I mean, you feel for him, I think it's been, you know, he's had a great tenure at West Coast, and whether or not it comes up now, or, you know, they leave it to the end of the year. He's, the fans are, I feel like the fans are in a different position, and the thought process is different now for the fully club than it was, you know, in the last couple of years where they've been really struggling, and it's got to do with the fact that they're listed, it's kind of like they've got players available now, and they're still not performing, and, you know, it is their only, it only is their second game, they've all played in, you know, in unison together, but it's, it does feel different, and you feel for it, but, you know, it's just nature of football. - Coming up after 7.30, Hammer, we're going to, Scotty and I have given ourselves a task of rating the coaches out of 10, for their entire tenure at their footy club, whether it be Damien Hardwick in 17 games at Gold Coast, or whether we can, Inchley, 10 years, or Adam Simpson, 10 years, whatever it may be, out of 10 for their work, it's tough, it is really tough, 'cause you're not really comparing, you're not comparing. - We're not comparing. - Yeah, so just tell us, Hammer, give Adam Simpson a mark out of 10, question me out and notice for you, but out of 10 for his tenure at the football club. - Well, yeah, that'd be tough, so he started winning, well, his first year, 24-aim, was his 50 years for you, sorry, was his first year, they made a grand final the year after. Oh, look, the last three years would have certainly dropped the rating, but I still think it's probably a seven and a half, maybe in an eight out of 10. - Wow! - You're an octopus. - You're an octopus. - Really? - You're an octopus. - Really? - You're an octopus. - Yeah, well, I'll talk to you through it. You got to a grand final in your second year, you won a premiership in your fourth, fifth year. You know, finals every year for pretty much six years, right? And then you dropped off a cliff. So you couldn't, I couldn't fault him until 2020. - Yeah, it's a good point. - And then, you know, you can't, even 2021, they were sort of not really that great, but they still made finals in '21? I think they still made finals in '21. - Nah, nah, nah, nah, I didn't. - Nah, nah, nah, that was, that was... - 2020, they made 2020. - 2020, 2020. I mean, the first... - I can't fault him for six years. And then... - No, good point. - I've got a clear. - The cliff's been pretty fatal for him. So his winning percentage in 2022 was nine and a half. He had 13% winning there. He's less than eight in this year. But before that, you're right. He was in the high 70s and mid 70s for a long time and a high 60s. - It still has a winning record, believe it or not. He has a winning record. - Yeah. - He's getting tired. - Yeah, well, I mean, that's... - Yeah, I think a lot of... If you were to rate the top pair, if you were to rate all the coaches at the moment, there's a sour taste in your mouth over the last couple of years, for sure. But yeah, I think he couldn't fault him for the first six years of his tenure at West Coast. And that's probably what gave him the last couple of years of longevity, because, you know, you're allowed a weather of storm when you've been a very good coach for a long time. So I don't know how much he can weather the remaining of the remainder of the season. But yeah, you're certainly a very good coach. And he's the early days of West Coast. - And the question would be who's going to replace him? And that can't continue to... - That's the question. That's the question. It's like the other thing, you don't like a list where it comes in for... - They've got to get a definitive answer out of the Cox camp, don't they? West Coast Poly complete tank solutions. Tanks for Agriculture, Residential Industry. West Coast Poly.com.au. Free, oh, wow, Josh Tracy, wow. Two years ago, Josh Tracy had a lot of work to do and I've been lambasted apparently. I'm not that I... - I've got smack, too. - Yeah, not that I've engaged too much. In fact, I've been not engaged at all with the socials, but I will say this, that a lot of people are going back over two years. When we questioned Josh Tracy that if he didn't left him, he might be out the door. Well, he's had an outstanding pre-season and everyone you speak to inside the Fremantle camp say, "This is the real Josh Tracy we were hoping to see a little bit earlier." But, gee, he stepped up and he has really become the key forward and many believe the best since Pavlage. - Wow, yeah, he's flying. And to be honest, Josh, people would have a go at you for what you said to your dog who had sent us four years ago, but he is just a big tall frame who attacks the footy. He's got, I mean, there's not many old-school sort of forwards left, I don't think in the comp, but he just runs straight lines at the ball, doesn't matter who's in front of him. He crashes packs, he can kick. The thing of that end that I really love, watching the weekend, those little kick-lays where he's just sort of facing the other way, points a finger out the back, turns around and because he can kick the ball 55 meters, he can do that anywhere inside the arc and it's dangerous and he just looked excellent. He's a pillar for them and I've said a lot the start of this year that the style of ball movement that they have when the pressure comes on and they're trying to handle, handle, handle, that sort of breaks down and now they've got him as an available target when that happens. You can change your style of ball movement and just kick it, kick it a tracy up the line and set up off that. It's got to be massive and yes, he's young and there's a lot of pressure on him to sort of continue the form that he's in but he was excellent on the weekend. - Mate, there was man love in the country boxer and we were calling it, I'm unabashed fan of his now. And I said, well, we're in a week ago or two weeks ago, I know he's being compared to Pav now but I reckon he's working, he's in rewalt, Nick rewalt work rate areas right now. He's doing absolutely everything. He's leading and his coverage of the ground is enormous but then he loves hitting blokes, he loves tackling, his groundwork is good and as you said there, the understanding is now got with his midfield of being able to just have this relationship with him where they know where he's going to go and he knows where he needs to be and they'll find him. That relationship now has gone to a new level because he is the number one man there. - Yeah, exactly. The first, I think the first market he took on the game was a laid out market, he took at the sort of back 50 on the junction, he's running everywhere and he had to take a bite for a little bit of the game and I was watching it and black wasn't dropping off him, he was just getting outworked and had 25 metres on laid out marks on the wing and it was, you know, for a play like that who is one, a big K target, you're expecting him to just hold back but he's getting up and he's getting back the ground. He's covering it really, really well but he just looks for the physicality. I mean, when Sean Darcy went down, he was happy to go in the rock because it's just, oh, here it is, he's the other bike that I just get to smash into and his game sort of breeds off that physicality and he takes himself to another level when things are getting rough and tough and I remember the Gold Coast game when he bought over Sam Collins and he just looks to engage and then clash through packs and it almost feels like he goes to a, you know, takes his game up a level every now and again when he gets that contact and he feels it and I think that's what Freil were crying out for because their best football is, you know, untouched, silky through the middle of the ground but now that they can rely on a bike who is just happy to take it to that crash and bash and make it a bit of a dogfight, he's something that they haven't had in a while and it's, yeah, it's going to be massive for them in the back half of the year. - They're a big winner on the weekend and with Carlton losing and Sydney losing all of a sudden, Freilman is now lying off a top two spot which is quite remarkable but well done to them. They're very close to a premise. They're probably a little closer than West Coast. (laughing) - Now, Emma, what's left in the tank with the Gold Coast sons? This was Damien Hardwick post-match. - I'm angry, to be fair. And as a footy club, we've got to grow the (beep) up to be perfectly on a skews of language but, you know, we've been in this situation too many times so it's up to me and the Magic Committee to sit there and get our boys going. - Loved it, loved it, loved it. Oh, I loved it, I loved it. I mean, there's a coach that has had a lot of experience and has had a lot of success and, you know, he got the job there based on his resume and he's gone over and they've just, I don't know what it is. It has to, it's a mental thing obviously because you can't be, your side doesn't change. You've still got the same list playing. But, yeah, for the honesty of the coach, I'd choose you to be tough week to be the Gold Coast list because you are going to get belted on the track by the sounds of that. But, look, I don't think there is anything left in the tank for them this year. They can't, they're not going to make finals. They're not going to fire a shot. They just have to win again away from home. They are fortunate that they've got West Coast in a couple of weeks at office and they're a chance. But, yeah, they're, what's left in the tank for them is a big whack between the eye, between the eye of this week from their coach and then, you know, they've just got to find a way to get over it. It's a monkey on the back that is just going to continue to grow and grow and grow. And, you just would hate to see them get to the end of this year and not win one away from home because that'll kill them over the off-season and it'll set them up poorly for next year. So, they've got to, that monkey off the back need to get going this year. And, I think they'll be going off the West Coast down and throwing everything at it. But, it's, yeah, I loved hearing that from my week. That was, I thought it was someone that had gone the old AIO at some point because I was, yeah, following the interview. But, watching it back, it was, it was powerful. And, I think the boys are in for a big way. Yeah, I agree. You know, I reckon you'll get fined for it. But, there's not one person here that doesn't think, "Shh, that's okay." And, no worries, you're not supposed to say about it. Are they live? Yeah. Are they live? Yeah, I'm pretty sure they are. I'm pretty sure they are. But, either way, either way, no one I know is offended by it or horrified by it or shocked by it or anything, stuff like that. But, Ham, have you been in the game a long, long time? So, and you've seen the difference in players now between what they can handle 10 years ago and what they can handle now as far as direct feedback goes. But, it'd be fair to say that if your team needs to grow up, being told that you need to grow up is possibly the best thing you can absolutely hear. And, we'll see what they're made of now, whether they suck it up or whether they respond. Definitely. I think looking at the way that he's attacked the first, you know, he'd stand around to whatever it has been at the Gold Coast. He looks like he's tried to sort of be a nice and new school coach that, you know, given the boys a bit of freedom and don't worry about it, it's okay, we'll get the next wake. And, I think for some young players, that works and for some young groups, that works. But, it comes to a point where you have to sort of, there's a lot in the sand and you have to click a switch. And, I think listening to that and, you know, putting myself in the players' point of view, you sort of, you can get away with making excuses for yourself and it gets so far into the year that it's like, well, we are the best team ever at home and then we are a completely different side away from home, but there's reasons. It might be, well, the umpires were bad to us this game or something happened on the flight that we got sort of, you know, it was four hours we got delayed or something. I think you can start to make excuses for yourself along the way and for a coach to say that, you've stripped off all those excuses and it's just laid bare and said, it's not anything else but us. And, I think the players and the leadership group and the group as a whole will be listening to that and be thinking, wow, it's, you know, it's made it pretty clear that we're not there yet and we've got a long way to go. And that's for the play. It just, it's a massive reality check. It gets your head away from the clouds and back to the now and it's, you know, it'll be a wake-up call that a lot of them need. And, yeah, I think all those excuses that you can potentially be subconsciously making or you can be sideways moaning about these sorties, well, I wanted to take it on the flight and they only had the fish or something like that. It's little things but the coach dropping the F bomb and saying, we need to grow up. Strip's all of that away and it's like, you know, it's on us and we've got to do something about it. So, I think it was awesome and I think you'll see a response the next time they go away. - Absolutely, well spoken. Last week, you and I both had four premiership contenders as Sydney, Carlton, Collinwood and Freeman. We both had the same four. Where do you see it now? Because I've taken the pies out of it. - Yeah, well, I didn't think that Essenin were good and I thought that Collinwood were good. I think I've dropped Collinwood out. I'll have to go Collinwood out and put JWS in based on the performance of the weekend. But I also think that Essen and I, they've gone up a few notches in my book because I mean, I look at their list and they've got good players but I didn't realize how good, like Durham's a star, Collin was a pretty good player, McGraw has gone. And then McGraw's a number one. He's playing like it. They've got good, we've got really good players and Zach Merritt I think is probably the best captain of the year, him or Patty Kripsen. Oh yeah, yeah, I just can't, you can't really fault them and they're winning. And that's the thing about the ladder, the ladder doesn't lie at this point of the year and yes, that Collinwood was the only top eight team there, but they're just winning games. So, you know, I don't think they're in the contention for a premiership. I think if they got there at the end of the year, Sydney had beat him, but they've gone up. But yeah, Collinwood dropped out. I still think Carlton is there. Sydney have had a couple of weeks but they're still the best team of the call. Three out of really solidified that position for me. And yeah, I think JWS were excellent and the way that they were able to bounce back, it was a 75 point swing. Now, we're not 39 points down to 35 points up in about a quarter and a half of football. So, you can't be doing that against Carlton and not be in the contention, I don't think. - Agree and Paul Hayserby is looking like a genius all of a sudden because he did say Carlton would be gone. - I need him to say it again. I really want him to say it again because that's what drove them last time. But now that they're out of the 18 GWS slip in like that, it's amazing this season. This season is phenomenally exciting because they've had a losing streak and everyone's got their shot to bits and one great win on the weekend. How is all over him? They've won one game in about six and these all over him and they've spotted into the eight. It's a great season of footy. - Apart from the odd anomaly where St. Kilda kicked half decent scores, I think he gains Brisbane and North Melbourne. They haven't cracked 100, albeit they didn't crack 100 against Sydney. - Doesn't matter. - It doesn't matter, but they look like they play with some freedom. Should that be a little bit of a blueprint to Ross Lyon? I was he so stubborn that he'll go back to his miserly ways. - I don't like it. I don't like it. It's too many scores. - I don't like to worry. - I think he'll double down on time to stop the opposition group scoring so much. But, oh, I mean, looking at them, the games that I remember watching from them that I was like, "Gee, that looks pretty good." The game against Brisbane when they were so far gone that it was just Brad Hill just thought, "I'm just going to do everything I can to run and play on." And that looked really good. And then yesterday they had Sydney who had a spell at half time when they just went, "I'll go keep 5 in a row and I'll have 25 points up." And it's you, they come from behind attitude of just, "I'm going to do play on instinct, "play with a bit of freedom." The score, there's no point trying to restrict their score because we need the score. That's when they look good. That's when their players decide to sort of start flowing and they've got exciting players if you actually look at their talent on the park. But when they try and play that defensive brand of football and stop their team from scoring, it becomes a bit of a slogan. That's what Rothline known for. But yeah, when they're in their backs up against the wall, they can really pin the years back and go for it. And I think that's got to be the blueprint going forward. You'd like to be able to do that from a little start instead of the third or five goal head start. But I think that looks really good. And I'd obviously, they were able to damage and beat the best team in the comp when they were, when they're put in that position. But yeah, the fans would have enjoyed it. I don't think they would have made it there, but that's the look that they want. And that's the look that everyone sort of expects now going forward, but I don't know, I think it'll be. I think Ross will double down, but yeah, geez, it looked exciting. Nine games this year and Kilda have been involved in with 10 points or less win all those. And that's just another one of them all. And Sydney kicking after half time, three goals, 11. Didn't help them and said Kilda came out and kicked nine goals too, which is good kicking is good football. Oh, I say, Haney Hammer, weak. - Oh, look, it didn't look great. It certainly looked like he punched a bike in the head. (laughing) That thing, that having been said though, the tribunal has been all over the shop this year. And Jesse Hogan punched a guy in the face in the goal square, got off. How you going? You feel bounced Sam Walsh's head four feet under the turf and he got off. And Charlie Cameron did the same thing and got off. So there's been a couple of instances where guys have got off. He shouldn't get off. He punched someone in the face, but he will be in brown, low metal contention. The AFL would just put the guy in the game. (laughing) - And he's a really good bloke. - He's a really good bloke. - He's a really good bloke. - He's a really good bloke. So I would be willing to put anything on the fact that he gets off because of those factors, which is ridiculous. And it's just, it's the way that this great game he's out at the moment, that the AFL will say, okay, he's the poster boys, Sydney. He's gonna be up there in a brown low and we need them to be good to go at the game. So no, you're not getting awake, which is ridiculous, but it'll happen. - Seven rounds left. Let's get some tips thanks to West Coast Polycomplete Tank Solutions. So we've had a lot left in the Tank, who's got left in the Tank and looks like West Coast. Empty and Collingwood likewise, but FreeO and GWS might be the ones who have got some filling to do. And they could be doing that in the next seven weeks. The tips are like this. At one stage, you had zero out of five, just to remind you. - Oh, it's horrible on the right hand. I was horrible. I know the rub it in. - He's finished okay. FreeO, Melbourne, Brisbane. We all got, we had, so we all had a combination of, we all, yourself, Scotty, Haze and myself all, had Blues, FreeO, Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane. So we all got three out of five, but it was the front half of the selection panel where I got two, Scotty got one, Haze got two, and you got none. I would repeat, you got none. - What's the need for that? - I can hear ya. - Okay. So at the moment, you're last on '83. Scotty's on '83, Haze is on '91, and he's really hanging around like a bad smell. He's tagging, and I'm on '93. - And Hammer, you've just-- - He's in clear, yeah. Russ Lyon, I'm from two girls back, and now what's the same pin and back and go back? - Yeah, all right, here we go. - Hammer in this, in this darn age, mate. Your fourth, I'm third. - Yeah. - Everyone gets a ribbon. - Haze is second, and Goss is first, last. - It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter winning. It's not about winning, no one keeps the score. - Oh, yes they do. - Right, Friday, calling with a host, Jollong MCG. - Four, Jollong are pretty good though. - I thought on the way. - Really, really good. - Good, and all of a sudden they're, you know, they're sort of backfire shots. Collingwood, average. This is a hard one to do my main morning, but you have to go off based on how it goes. Oh, I'm going to go Jollong. I think Collingwood is shot. - All righty, Hawthorne in Tassie, host Fremantle. - Fremantle are the real deal, and I know the Hawks are flying and it's hard to beat them down there, but Hawthorne will not have what it takes to match against the Fremantle Buckers, and Freya will win by four-plus goals. - Sydney, host North Melbourne, SCG. - Sydney will win by 100 points, they're back. - They're bounding under a couple of high losses, 100 points, but North are good, they'll be fine, but yeah, they'll get max. - I love Monday dipping. - Yeah, it's never three game losing three. We should actually do it. That should be our motto. Western Bulldogs, host Carlton. Oh gee, this is not the greatest after the weekend. The Bulldogs looked very good leading into the game. I tipped them, which was disappointing, because I was wrong. - Me too. - Yeah, they just didn't prove to me that they've got what it takes. If you can't beat Port Adelaide, how are you going to beat Carlton? Carlton win this game, and they bounce back, and all will be right. They've got that end of the ladder. - Adelaide. - Yeah, all right, Carlton. Adelaide weren't too bad against Brisbane. Now they go home, and they host St. Kilda, 15th, plays 14th. - Safety just beat Sydney. Adelaide at home are a leg up, so you've got to give them that. - They won't have any competitive against Brisbane. - They won't have any. - Yeah, I know, they were competitive against Brisbane without being great. Ross Lyon will probably try and be defensive. I, oh, this is a flip of a coin. I don't have one. I'm doing it in my head. Head that was there for Sydney. That's all right, St. Kilda win this. Wow, I should have done it. I'm going to show you on tiles, you idiot. Why don't you go tiles? (all laughing) - Melbourne back enough to beat Essen and the MCG on Saturday night. - No, they're not. Essen and win. Melbourne have just beaten West Coast. People on your tip, your hat, too. They weren't that, they were good. They kicked seven gold in the first quarter, and then it was pretty much Evan's Davidson, like, quarter of the football. Essen and the good, Melbourne aren't. Essen and win. - Okay, and seeing there's some doubt about Max Gorman with an ankle Sunday. Gold Coast, host, Port Adelaide. - No, Gold Coast is the best. Gold Coast is the best team of all time at home, so the Gold Coast will wipe the floor with that, with Port up there. - GWS travel to the MCG to take on Richmond. - GWS should be getting that one done pretty comfortably. - And here, 440 Easton, 240 Perth, Brisbane travel all the way across the country to take on the West Coast Eagles. It's going to be tough. It's going to be a tough one for the coaches. It's, yep, it's going to be ugly. It could be pretty bad, and then Brisbane will be winning that game. - Always good to chat on a Monday. Thanks to West Coast Poly, complete tank solutions. They're loving what you bring into the table. Tanks for agriculture, residential and industry. West Coast Poly.com.au. What have you got left in the tank for East Perth? When are you back? - I'll be back after the buy, so we're going to buy this week, and then we've got Perth after that, so I'll be back for that Perth game. Feeling good, ready to go. I think with the tipping from here on out, because I'm 10 off, I'm 13 off the pace. I think you guys should start to have the tip on Monday. - No. - And I should get the tip. I should be able to tip it after I have a frickin' game. (all laughing) - Good morning, Chance. We don't want to talk about the Waffle, whose team beat your team, and... - No, my team, good beat your team. Gosh, very good. - Damn, how many is, is he still there? - Yeah, no, he's still there. - Yeah, he's still there. He's in here, he's in here. - Bloody umpires. - Nothing about the Waffle? - Bloody umpires. How about the ducks, though? - Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Just goin'. - Just goin'. - Just goin', hangin' by, thread the ducks, they're just, they're not in here. - Yeah, they're probably the best team in the company. - They are the best team in the company, and they are the best team in the company. So, fun. - Yeah, yeah, what's that? - What, six, no, I think, I'm not sure. We're just taking a one week at a time, it's, we got a clam on who were back in business. Clam on a right back in business. That's a big game of steel blue. There's gonna be Range Rovers and Bentley's pinched from steel blue all Saturday afternoon. That's gonna be a big one, but, and that's what he's just goin'. - Good idea, how much, appreciate it. Do it again next week. - Pleasure, all right, see you then. - Hammer racial, West Coast Poly, complete tank solutions, tanks for agriculture, residential, and industry. West Coast Poly.com.au. News is just around the corner. 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