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Download the Experian app. Results will vary, not all subscriptions are eligible, savings are not guaranteed, paid membership with connected payment account required. [MUSIC PLAYING] It's Scotty Ooh, cost for breakfast. [MUSIC PLAYING] Well, everyone for bar six sits at Chili, 3.8 degrees and getting a little colder, heading for a top of 19 today. Thanks to Sonos, multi-room, listening, wireless home theatre and a whole lot more. Get that game-changing sound this season with Sonos, big show coming up our Macafay coffee chat. Grab those chicken McNuggets, 24 of them actually, for just $9.95, getting more for your money at Maca. Scotty, good morning. Hello, buddy. How are you going? How's your day yesterday? Do you just take away the top of the world attitude and just attack your day with it today? I did. I went and saw mum and dad and saw my niece, who's going to Melbourne. Lola and I watched her house get demolished next door. Oh, big... They're bad enough, the neighbours are bad enough. They said that's moving, it was not enough. Big claw came over and pulled the hard chat and said, "Boy, you're out of here, you couldn't knock over mine, couldn't you?" Incidentally. You could have acted a bit of insurance. So what are we going with today? Wonderful Wednesday or over it? I'm not so sure I can do back-to-back days, I've been really happy. Oh, waffle wins, that is. No. Everyone sucks. No, but I tell you what I did do yesterday, which is really rare for me. I had to go and get milk, which is not rare, which is not rare, which is not rare, but if I don't get it, no one does. Anyway, someone got the milk and I grabbed a box of cheese of us. Like, what was I thinking? Well, impulse buy. I had no intention. I don't buy cheese. This is not even near the dairy season. I was walking through from there, because you know how they placed the... Right down the back. Right down the back here, so you go there. You've got to walk past everything. You fell for the oldest tree in the book. The old ambush marketing. You've put in what they need the most down the back of the store and to walk through all the aisles. Correct. So come back, and there was a box of cheese of us there. I just don't buy that stuff. Yeah. I'll go down to Mum and Dad's if I want it. Anyway, had I went past that? Oh, it's got something. Yeah. $3.99 a box of cheese of us? Oh, well, you can't afford not to buy them. Yeah, they've gone. I had them all. I had them this morning. Can you see me when you walked in? Yeah, no, no. I thought they were left on the desk that we were using there as one of the sales team. Yeah. No, mine. That was your breakeet. Right. No, no, no. It was breakfast of champions. Cheezles. Have you got one of those... One of those... You don't have a lot of... But when you have it, you can't stop. Yeah. Try that, because there's another one. A lot of it to keep you real. If you have too many of those, I'm a peanuts M&M man. Are you really? Yeah, if I can. Would you start them and just keep going? No, they're gone. A little bag, big bag, medium bag, doesn't matter if I open them. They're cooked. 131255, join in the fun, 131255. Cheezles are great though. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know, buys the, you know, the multi-packs, and that for the kids' lunches, you know, just a little treat in there for lunch. And, um, Cheezles were one of them, and I think there were four packets of those in the cupboard, and I don't think the kids found one of them in the lunch box, because the Cheezles got me too. Chris out, uh, Special Gay. Pods are his, uh, the Mars flavor, and Griff is into the Maltese's. 131255, 131255. Pods. Give us a call. What's your weakness? What's your, just, what, one? So mine, mine is, well, as of yesterday. It's only one, because I could feel 25 minutes. Cheezles for me? Yeah, that'd be no M&Ms for me. No M&Ms. Pods them, um, Mars flavor, and Maltese's for Griff. 131255, a little family. Come on. Confess, confess to us right now. Are you sweet or a savory medical? Both. Yeah, both. Depends. You're giving me a double-coated Tim Tam, and I mean, all sorts of trouble as well. Whenever the, whenever, uh, the father-in-law's over, he's a, he's a sweet man, and there has to be some sort of chocolate biggie in there, and, you know, he has one. Well, I'm taken with you. No, no, no, no. No, but that is disappointing. That is real discipline. Well, that's what I wanted to explain. What he was managed to achieve post-football. Right, yeah. I'll try a marathon runner. Cheezles, burger rings, cheese, Swiss cheese. Not chicken. Oh, no, no, Mike. Mike, Mike. It's chicken all the way. Yeah, chicken. I'm a bit the same as you, Scotty. Chicken, Swiss cheese, do it for me. Yeah. Something that they were going to combine the two. Was there some sort of promo that was combining them? Well, having a mixed bag. Yeah, sure. I thought something like that. Oh, they're going to stop believing everything. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 13, 12, 55. Dave says, "Boys, I'll crack a slab on Saturday and give it a nudge by the end of the night." Okay. So, is that sweet or savory? Tomo says, "Ice cold tins go okay once you pop. Can't stop." Scotty from Scarborough cheese. Swiss chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Can we get them? Chicken. Yeah, that please. The famous chicken. You know, the little foam stuff you get in the box. You know, you get a box of something and it's got to be looked after. You know, like it's foam packaging. Yeah. And it's got the little foam. The long piece. How are you those? Right, yeah. You're right. I can't open a box without going through the entire polystyrene chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Chicken. Oh, nice chicken. These Pringle says, "Mick." Yeah, Pringle's tough, too. Yes. That's because they tell you. They tell you in the slogan, in the advertising. Once you pop, you can't stop me. I don't feel weak then, because if everyone can't stop. A lot of text coming in. We'd love some calls, 131255 048773676. Oh, John, one of these good ingosses today, Week Wednesday. We confess to things we have no self-control over. No, John. We're talking food and that is it. Chiquito for Scotty, from Bayswater and Doritos, if you're going on the savory side. Doritos, man. No, me neither. No, me neither. No, me neither. If I'm going to have a chip, it has to be hardcore salt and vinegar where the fact is it almost burns your eyes out. Right? I don't really like that. Yeah. And barbecue, where you actually start licking your fingers of all the stuff. Oh, sand bove over here. The only barbecue to go. Sand bove over here were just next level sort of punching the face sort of stuff. Do you remember having a glass of coat growing up? And it, you pour it into a glass. Right? And the bubbles, the bubbles would bubble up over the top and it would go up in those. Yeah, absolutely. And that was like, that was just like, it was just so good. And it was killing your insides. But it was just so good doing it. It was always alarming when you saw something that said, if you want to clean your coins, put them in a bowl of coke. There you go, it will clean your coins. You know, what you're doing to me? Those days when coke came in bottles and I just think it stores better than plastic. Oh, no doubt about it in the glass bottle. In the glass bottle? Yeah, in the ad. So just the water glistening off the bottle too. You got me every time. Carlos says, "Chorizo on a crusty Italian bread with butter is his weakness." Oh, oh, he stepped it up a notch. You said that? It was Carlos. Oh, he was a bloke. He went to school with half a French loaf and a roll of salami or something by the sand. So you know... Who made friends with Carl? You know Bastille Day. Yes. French Day, whatever it is. French Australia, though. Yeah. Sure. He used to go to primary school. My mum will vouch for this. And you used to take a bread roll and a block of chocolate because you used to eat the bread in the chocolate. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bread and chocolate together. Yeah. That's what they do in France. Oh, that's weird. No, it's real. Yeah, you know, and when you said do a school, it's just... Oh, fuck. We had a fondant sense. Chocolate found, doppin'. Would you play at your fountain at school? Yeah. If you breaded it. Wow. All right, we didn't do any of that in Les Mertie. Think about it. We're playing the Brisbane theme song. Chocolate. And just bread. That's what we had. And you stick it in the middle and go... Bread just to get the lemonade and sass after a little while. Yeah. And you just hook into the chocolate. Fresh bread and butter is a weakness. Really? Yeah. Fresh bread. Yeah. Crunchy, white bread and butter. Crunchy, white bread and butter. Oh, you're talking about like a crusty loaf top. They're not the stocked head and stuff. No, no, no, no. Not the pedestal, Mitch. No, no, no, no. Dip top. Yeah. It's gotta be some sort of new bar. Oh, it's a travel when I was a little boy. I love these stories. I love this journey that we're taking. And our listeners are right into it as well, giving us lots of text. You're at 487736. We're a family friend, still dope. Mum and Dad's family friend, Angela. She used to be a delivery lady for tip top. Yeah. And she would drive her out in a little red tip top van. A light little van. Yeah. Oh, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. To live with the bread, that tip top. Yeah. And they'd have the big doors at the back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was no passage. Yeah, they'd come out of Christ. Yeah. And there was no seat. No passenger seat. So I would travel around sitting on the floor of a tip top. Bakers van. Really? I was intrigued. I was intrigued by all of that stuff. Yeah. I loved that stuff. The floor. See, well, obviously. No, no, no, no. I just rolled around the floor. Yeah. Yeah. What's this break? Whoo. Right, yeah. Oh, those were the days. There's a lot coming in. Boys, I remember the cola or raspberry freezer here. Yeah. And the jelly chip ice cream. What was it being the jelly chip? Oh, I loved it. The cola and raspberry fridge. They came in that triangle. Yeah, yeah. And you cut the corner off it. Yeah, but if you didn't cut it, you had to use your teeth. Yeah. Oh, that was tough. You had to have the metal paper through the plastic. And just delight that one. Yeah. Love that. Love that. Keep them coming, everybody. What we went so after all these snacks we're going to be having. Fantastic. Yeah. It'll get you. Someone will... She just loves the burger rings. Oh, well, when you combo something and you're having to be a... And you're at the pub or something and you want to have a little snack with it. Boogering to beer. There's no great combination in the world. Nothing to worry about. Don't worry about Top of the World Tuesday. Nothing will make you happier than that. Jason says peanut M&Ms every day. Cheese and onion smiths. Have a great day, boys. Oh, come on. Who was that? That's him. Jason. That's our granny. Cheese and onion. Come on, mate. Darryl says cheesecake. I'm still filthy. They put a cheesecake shop opposite the local gym. Give to you as charged. Oh, you're going to earn it. That's OK. Veggie might and honey on toast. What? No, you've killed yourself, mate. Veggie might and honey. Yep. Well done. Veggie peanut butter and honey. No drama. Cheese and jacks crackers. Yeah. Yeah, I love crack pepper too. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you, Lisa. Thank you. Keep them coming. 048773673636. Come on. How are we going there? We just bought out the shop, boys. Big bag, too. Big bag. Yellow ones, in case you want. I've dried apricots in my weakness, like seriously dried apricots. I like prunes. And not when you're a kid, though. Now that you're old age, obviously. No, no. Just prunes. Prunes are good. What? Do you remember cling peaches? Yeah. Cling. Cling stone. Is that what they were? They're cling peaches. I love them. You've stepped up the demographic a little video, I think, from your childhood day. It's upside up to now. I've dried apricots, prunes, and fruit. Yes. Do you remember having my pop for Christmas? All he wanted was, because when you get to 80ish, there's not much you can buy a bloke. My pop was just happy with his tinned fruit. Yeah. I'm like, man, I can't give pop tinned fruit for Christmas. Yes. You watch his face. I'll pop. I'll pop what over his present. Yum, yum, yum, yum. What? Rice cream. Oh, you're making crap. No, no. Rice cream. In a can. Rice cream. Do you have it after you have your roast chicken in a can? No, no, no. Rice cream and ice cream, or ice cream and rice cream, we used to call it at home. Do you want your rice cream on your ice cream? Or do you want your ice cream on your rice cream? I think I know what it's made of, but I don't understand it whatsoever. Rice cream. Rice cream is cool. It's not like what you get at Chinese restaurants or when you go overseas. Yeah, that's sticky rice. Yeah, yeah. But it's an Australian version. Sticky rice is right. Rice pudding. My mum is the best rice pudding maker. And rhubarb. But the rhubarb, rhubarb had to be firm. Not rock hard, not snap, snap, rock hard. Oh, not mushy. But it had to be firm, cooked, like, you know what I mean? I don't just get all the, and lots of sugar. I think rhubarb's a forgotten one, you know, all of this. I love the rhubarb. Rhubarb. You can't find rhubarb often. Rhubarb's one of those. I think he's the cyclone. He's not affecting. He can't find a good rhubarb anymore. We never stuff, can't find it. They go, "Oh, I transport problems." His transport cyclone is a better weather condition. Do your mum ever say, because my mum never swore. It still doesn't swear. No, mine doesn't. If she wants to say... Mine doesn't. It's a blinky heck. That's a swear word for something. You go, "Oh, you mean..." You can hang buddy out. But if you said something to her, instead of hosing her, your mum would go, "Oh, rhubarb." You know what I mean? My mum thought it was a... I'd say, "Oh, rhubarb." I'm like, "What?" I never liked rhubarb for a while. It was always just connected with negativity. Tomo says, riding on the floor of tip-top van sounds like a crummy place to hang out. "Oh, Tomo, you're better than that." Giant sandwich. Now, the giant sandwich, I need to speak to the giant sandwich people. They used to be hard. Yeah. Hard. Yeah. And bigger and darker. Biggie's all soggy in there. Yeah, soggy and lighter. Yeah. And nowhere near as big. Much more. Much more. It's a rot. Yeah. Price up. Quality down. I'm with you, Mike. The cad Dracula ice cream. The school canteen. Yeah, trash. Crispy creams are amongst your likes given... Yes, yes. Thank you, Scotty. Yeah, the Crispy creams. Ash on Friday loves the Crispy creams. The Venetia Scotty. Yeah, just a little ball of heaven. Crispy creams. There's nothing to all night. No. Well, seriously, nothing. I know. You don't even bite them. You stick them in their dissolve in them out. Okay, that's broke clear. That sure will do that. That's broken. That's broken. Yeah. That's a little better. What's in drug of choice? What? Oh, really strong immunity inflammatory? Yeah. Yeah. What's in drug of choice? Well. Anyway, we would love to pack that right there. Yeah. 30, 12, 55, 0, 4, 8, 7, 3, 6, 7, 3, 6, 8... What's in that conversation? What did you do? It was on. Man, on heroin. Yeah, so I love it. You're going to get enough. Oh, gee. That's an equation. Yeah. Just hang on. Oh, yeah. Well, that seems to be... It's like breathing. Yeah, that's her end. Absolutely her end. Oh, that's fine. Mark Zafolus is going to join us. Of course, because it is... The Wimbledon is a couple of good Aussies one overnight. After seven o'clock. One way. Oh, they win. They won the first round of Wimbledon. Excellent. Or as some would say... Wimbledon. Brad Smith will join us after seven o'clock. He's the state 15th coach, because Dixie Marshall was the guest on Mark Duffield's show yesterday talking about the development pathways and keeping kids at boys and girls involved in the process of how you coach them. How do you find the best? How do you keep them interested? How do they pay? So, Brad Smith's going to be in the studio for seven o'clock to seven thirty. If you've got a question for Smithy about the 15th program and the new wave, that's the next kids that really get to put up before the 16th and the 18th programs. Of course, they're the next drafted kids. And Drew Jones is going to chat to us all things footy news. Of course, a big day today, because the stories picked up a bit of momentum since last night where John Ralph, I think, on Fox Footy broke down. He broke this on Jared Whiteley's show. I fell 360, if not there somewhere else. Jake Waterman, his name has been... Sort after that. Yeah, sort after now. Wouldn't he be? Out of contract at the end of next year, Paul Pios is his manager. We have got a calling for Pudo. Pudo? Brilliant. Why wouldn't you be chasing Jake Waterman if you think you could get him? Yeah. I don't think he's going to go anywhere to be at 100%. Oh, it would be time to think about that. On the end of the show, you tell me whether I'm taking that to the bank or not. Some of them didn't say, "No, no, it wasn't Count Dracula, it was Count Chuckula." And these ones, this has got me too Mike. So if it's, you've got to ask me Savory or Sweet, if it's Sweet, I'm just a pin on them an M all day. And a wheelchair, she's gone. But he might have gone with chicken in the business. Yeah, a lot of drumsticks and pizza flavour. No, no, no. It's barbecue shapes. Barbecue shapes. Do the fettiest food you can buy, barbecue shapes? Well, that explains a few things. Well, hello. I only know that 20 years ago. Yeah. Apparently, they're the first size of the box. It's officially the fattiest. But yeah, I think you're a purgest. Well, we were you 20 or 20 years ago when I was a cook. I was a cook. It was a make-up 30 years. I was a cook. I was asked coffee addict and I didn't. Oh, no, peanut and M's in barbecue shapes. It's starting to explain a couple of things. And a half a hot chocolate and a hot bakery roll, bread from the coals in Berwood East after a night shift when I was living in Mount Waverly was mint, getting first crack at a hot chocolate roll. I don't mind the red rooster roll. They used to have a cracker. I don't think they have that anymore. What? It was a cracking, chicken roll. It's a cracker. Oh, my God, that is. Christmas crackers. What the hell are you doing? So you talk about the... Yeah, they used to have a cracking roast. They did. But now it's clearly only goes into the microwave. The pre-made goes into the microwave and it gets... It worked. It worked. Yeah, but it gets waved beyond its existence. It comes out. It's just like soggy. You should pay for it while you get to it. But she, it tastes good. But mayonnaise. You know, there's so much sugar in mayonnaise. It's unbelievable. Why are you ruining the day for me? Until you clean up your plate. So eat it. Twenty-two past six. We have just spent... That was fun. I love the little memory line types. Memory line. Thank you to everyone who played alone. And tomorrow, take us and tell us what you went and got. Because I know there's people who are going to crumble. Scotty and Gus. Just eat it. Just eat it. Oh! Your people manners are a crying shame. I feel alive. ♪ I understand ♪ ♪ I see clearly ♪ Birthdays. Events. And some of the great moments in history. It's on this day. Have your birthday. Just celebrating a birthday. Thanks to Bow and a Day. Because little things are everything. You tell me it's Mark and Steve War's birthday. I'm warping it up. My brother Tony's birthday. Have a birthday, Tony. And I did ring him on the 20th of June. Thought he was his birthday then. But it's actually the 30th of July. The numbers aren't even wrong. No, not even close. He's in town. He's driven across from... Oh, that's a lot of it. From the border. It's the other one. From the border. From Queensland, New South Wales. He's been driving around. It's a heavy birthday. One of those vans. Things. You know, those Brits. Great nomad. Yeah. He's going to stay for a day and then keep driving through town. Sorry. Thanks for sticking around, mate. Kevin Johnson's 81 today. ♪ I'm going to look at you ♪ ♪ The best years of my life ♪ ♪ All the great ladies and gentlemen ♪ ♪ Don't imagine me ♪ You remember that song? That song is changed. That song is changed. No, he ain't rock and roll the best years of his life. It's a song that's not rock and roll about it. Well, hang on. In 1996, I became the AFL song. I changed the words. It was the AFL centenary song. Wow. Yeah, there you go. You learn something every day. Now, Judith Koch was born in 1943. She died in 2022. You'd know it better as Judith Durham. ♪ I'm the daughter of the diggers ♪ ♪ Who told them I belonged ♪ ♪ The girl became a woman ♪ ♪ On the long and dusty road ♪ ♪ I'm a child of the depression ♪ This is who blue McKellen missed me. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no ♪ That's the one. It's a beautiful song. Hmm. ♪ We are one ♪ Yeah. ♪ 'Cause we are very ♪ Yeah. Beautiful song. You know, story blue McKellen missed Mick Multhous's pre-game speech of the '94 Grand Final. There was one player missing from the room. No one noticed. He was up on the race watching the sneakers perform. Yeah. Pre-game. Missed it. That would be him. Laura Branigan. ♪ You take myself ♪ ♪ You take myself ♪ ♪ I, I live among the creatures of the night ♪ ♪ I have a number ♪ We died in 2004, ages 52. She did have a better song than that. Gloria was a number. Vince Clark in '63. ♪ Don't you know I never let you go down ♪ Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Mike wants to know, did part well change its name on this date? Did what? He parwelled. I think he did. I think he did. What? Tom Cruise is 61. That's not Tom Cruise, but that's... Risky business. Yeah. He was in Top Gun as well, of course. We know it was Maverick. It's an 18 mission impossible. Shane Lynch is 47. ♪ And I will get you same ♪ ♪ I'm strong ♪ ♪ She'll turn from the storm ♪ Wow. Boys on. ♪ No matter where it's found ♪ It's a real special gay type of tune, it's my name. Pussy Park's favourite son, Cav Templey, is celebrated to birthday today, 45 from Eskimo Joe. ♪ Dying as far a man ♪ ♪ So know you love the standard ♪ ♪ Do you understand ♪ Popular one royalty today. Sebastian Vettel is 36. Jack Braben won the French Grand Prix in 66. Brian Jones, Rolling Stones, passed away age 27 in 1969. ♪ I see the redstone as I wanted ♪ Quite amazing. And at the same date, the Brian Jones passed away. The Jim Morrison, the doors, lead Vettel has also died on this day in Paris, age 27. Again. ♪ Well, won't we be like my son ♪ ♪ Well, won't we be like my son ♪ A lot of people out of 27. A lot of fun. I know, I know, I know. I'm down the bike from Silver Channel, was that you? Was that you? No, was that you? No. Silver Channel? He's not dead yet, is he? Oh, I think that John's still gone, okay. Hey, hey. Didn't someone else die? I'm pretty sure Amy Winehouse was 27. I reckon... Some other ones. I'm just one of the things he led you more to being 27. That's the one I was thinking of. Well, he didn't sing a lot. I remember that. Everybody cool. He led you. Very cool. And sadly, sadly, I remember this day like I was yesterday, but it was nine years ago that Phil Walsh was murdered, was found in his Adelaide home coach. You remember that? Yeah. Quite a horrific time. John was fold-stepped in then. John was fold-stepped in then. John was fold went across to the Adelaide crows, then. Helped them out. Yeah. Remember that? How tough that was. And then Pikey took that. Did Pikey take it over then? Yes. Scott Pecamparelli was involved. Terrific time. Terrible time. Terrible time. Yeah. That great influence over a lot of people. Yeah. It's been many years here in the West. Of course, as the West Coast took, it was barren, don't miss out on the little mulch because little things are everything. So much to get through. After 6.30, after the 6.30 news, don't forget after seven. Brad Smith's going to join us. We're going to talk all things junior footy and development of the next wave of stars. Mark Sepholas is going to join us. He's going to join us. Right. And Drew Jones is going to join us too after 7.30. All things footy, including Jake Ford. Oh, Ford. It's Scott Pecamparelli. 27. 11. 7. ♪ To the country ♪ ♪ Gonna eat a lot of peaches ♪ ♪ I'm moving to the country ♪ ♪ I'm gonna eat me a lot of peaches ♪ Yeah. ♪ I'm moving to the country ♪ ♪ Gonna eat a lot of peaches ♪ Hey, pop some happiness, these things. Mody, happy. Little things. Little things. Little things. Nutrient water for day forecast. You're destination for all things water. Nineteen and sunny today. Becoming cloudy tomorrow in '19. Then partly cloudy on Friday. And then a shower or two on Saturday. 18 degrees. Irrigation, pump and filtration product. Specialist is Nutrient Water. Visit Nutrient Waterstore.com.au. Don't forget Saturday night footy here. It is the Dockers Take On Richmond. [crowd cheering] Michael Hutchins was 27. And Kurt Cobain was the one I was thinking of from Nirvana. He died the over 27. Well, she got special. Jimmy Hendrix. Yeah. Janice Joplin. Jack the Ripper. Was Jack the Ripper one? Well, he was left handed. Well, okay. It's all connected somehow. Charlie Cameron has signed a contract extension with Brisbane. Well, what? He's not going to Fremantle. He's not going to Fremantle. He was coming to Fremantle. We all did. Managers and just. What's going on here? He's listening. He's pulled the rug out from under us. He's tired. He's tired. Managers are getting right up there with real estate agent. So he'll be at the line until the end of 2028 yesterday as well. Jared Berry. Resigned at. I said that. I said that. I hadn't signed up last week. I thought he'd already signed. I knew something. Confirmed yesterday. Five years. Court of finals for the Euros are set after Netherlands beat Romania. Yeah. Three-nil last night. Turkey got over Austria. Two-one. So we'll see Spain take on Germany Portugal. Portugal will play France. England versus Switzerland and Netherlands versus Turkey. That's it. Not hard to say, is it? I just want Netherlands to keep winning because I'm just loving their fans at the moment. Yeah. That song that they do. Yeah. The Club one. The Club one. Don't do a club thing. I go. No. No. No. No. No. No. Get Mark. The Clap. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Something's gone wrong. No. It's not going to be a party's revolting already. Don't you even think you've been? Well, there's a water for now. Thank you. There's the sports update. I don't even know why I have one. It's unsponsored. Twenty-two away from seven. Three point eight. Yes. James. James Broadhurst is here talking all things grey hands. It's a great night out of the grey hands every Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday in Mandra. It's like back, isn't it? Yeah. What happened to Sticky? Well, we've seen the bond well with Sticky. Yeah. With Beezer. What's happened here? With Sticky and Beezer mate. Go on. Pull the rug under him. James. James. Good morning, Jim. No, no. We're not saying good morning. We want to know where Beezer and Sticky's gone. Yeah. Where did you go? What did you do to him? He was doing a very good job. He got better and Beezer. Yeah. He looked sounded like he wanted to be on the show. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a nice change. I don't know. On a Hollywood honey mate, he's on an interstate trip for work that's unavailable today. Yeah. Unfortunately, you've got me. OK. Is he up in Queensland with Sage Teneal doing her thing for the Queensland Cup? Yeah. Carrying her bag. Yeah. She was, isn't she? Hasn't she? She's reborn. She was, she was, she was God's key. And he's done an amazing job, Cody Charles. Amazing job. Yeah. This has been an incredible journey. I know you've been following it on the show, guys. What a wild ride it's been. As you mentioned, she came from nowhere to win the Nationals last year. And then she went back to nowhere. She was just badly out of form. And then just in the last month or so, it's come good again. Of course, those two track records that Mandarin wins the Paradise suit trophy. Now into this final of the Queensland Cup. Cody Charles reckons she's racing in the best form she ever has. But he does admit that the 7, 10-meter trip is right on her limit. But, you know, what she's won as an underdog in the past. So who knows what's going to happen there on Thursday night? George, what's happening with the heats of the West Chase at Mandarin on Saturday night? Yeah. Good series. Just went down there at Mandarin over the 4, 88-meter journey. A lot of good dogs coming together. Too much to mention in the scope of this show. We'll just focus on a couple of the highlights here, guys. Heat two, we've got a dog by the name of Miss Indie. Now she's having her first at Mandarin. She's an up and coming type. And I think she's got a lot of promises, Graham. Admittedly, it's been coming to a pretty difficult task. And she hit the field where one of those races where every dog has got a chance here. But, you know, looking forward to seeing how she goes in Heat two. And then in the four feet, we get to see Bezaki. Now he is something special. You haven't put him in your blackbook, put him in now. One of his past five, including the Nambulup Cup over this tracking distance about a fortnight ago. Look, he's an exciting dog. He comes from behind. And that can be a problem for him because he potentially can get caught in traffic. Now, so far, that hasn't been an issue for him. And we'll see how he goes there on Saturday. But he's certainly a big gun to this West Chase series. Good dog will do that. Give us your best bet mate for Northam on tomorrow night at Northam. Yeah, he was Northam tomorrow. And speaking of nice young dogs, this is another one. We're going for iconic jet. This dog goes around in race six jumps out of box eight here. Really classy. Youngster did get his first win up at Northam last week. Probably the only question mark for him is whether he'll handle the wide draw up there. But I think it'll be fine. We're going for him as a race six number eight iconic jet at Northam tomorrow. Nice work, Jimmy. Good to have you back legend. Greyhound's WA's James Broadhurst. Great night out of the Greyhound's every Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday at Mandra. Of course, you can get up to Northam and have a look to see as well. And of course, Caddington under reconstruction. Let's get a break away and come back. Talking tennis next. 3.8 degrees heading for a top of 19 Wimbledon. Michael Lagos after 7 o'clock. Brad Smith joins us in the studio talking all things player, junior development. And after 7.30, we'll get the update on all the Melbourne news. Of course, also that about Jake Waterman and he's linked to a couple of Victorian clubs. Let's talk tennis now. Mark Zafoulis is on a line talking all things tennis. Of course, high performance tennis coach. Founder of the tennis.menu.com assistant coach at Richmond's Via Felty. Mark, appreciate your time. Mixed night for the Aussies, a couple of nights into the Wimbledon, the Grand Slam. Yeah, thanks for having me. And yeah, was actually a mixed trip Wimbledon. And a little bit of a rain delay as well at the same time. But obviously a couple of our major hopes for the title. Both on the men's and women's side were playing last night. So it was good to watch as they went about their business. And obviously Alex Demon all was one of those who played against fellow Aussie James Duckworth, which was a really tight three set match. But good to see Alex get over the line in his first round match. Yeah, 76, 76, 76, 76. I have never, now I've followed tennis. I've got no massive skin in the game, but I do know most Australians. I've never heard of Adam Walton. I've never heard of him. Yeah, Adam, he's actually come through a different pathway in terms of college based. And he's come through very quietly. I'm going to say that he got through against Correa from Argentina. And he first round last night and straight sets and actually has a fairly good draw. Rublev, who is the sixth seed, went out in the first round. So he plays against his opponent, Kamasana, who's from Argentina as well. So he's got two of the Argentinians on grass. He's in a bad first two rounds for Adam Walton. So he's got a bad little draw there at Wimbledon for not tonight, but tomorrow night he will play. So it'd be quite an interesting round to see if he can get through to the third round. Well, who's their best hopes? Obviously, Demon is going to be our best hope. But it wouldn't be a cock and ark, it's going to be a pop run. They both had solid wins. Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting. Like I've spoken before about, you know, the hopes of winning the title. And I think the only one from our men's draw would be Alex. They would probably go all the way. But obviously some like Jordan Thompson is another one that probably comes to mind. It had a win two nights ago. And he's playing some really good tennis on the grass. And I think he's probably another one of our best bets to sort of get through. He came from two sets to love down to get through him when he's five. And obviously playing some good tennis had a good result last week, making the final in a lead-up event to this. And Lukok and Arcus will, will he serve, will always be there about and be out of trouble opponents. Alex, you pop in the same big serve, will be out of trouble opponents on the grass. But I think in terms of the actual title itself, I think Demon or, he's probably in his best position. He has been, I guess, in many years to be able to challenge for a title. And obviously being on grass, he loves the grass, loves the way it plays. His game suits the grass. And now with, I guess, Jockovic having surgery three weeks ago and being sort of slightly underdone. And obviously Murray pulling out yesterday. Rapper's not there. I think the draw starts open up to someone like Alex to maybe come through and have, you know, career-best result of Wimbledon. I'll just correct myself. Their cognitive scheme was suspended due to bad weather. Surprising. So there we are. He is set down to one and it's one all in the fourth set. What happens now? They just lobbed today and pick it up from one all? Yeah, correct. I'll just come back and start from where they finished off yesterday. And obviously with the grass, the real challenging part about rain at Wimbledon is, if you don't get the covers on in time, the grass gets quite wet and quite slippery. And we've seen some major injuries in the past coming down on that grass. Obviously, no spikes on the shoe. So it's a bit challenging to hold your feet. So they'll come back and finish from where they left off last night. And hopefully, for now, you can come back and win that match and see if you can continue his journey along Wimbledon. It changes everything for you though, doesn't it? Obviously you're recovery rate. If you get through that one, you've lost a day somewhere in recovery. So you can really mess you up. But anyway, what's happening on the women's side of the draw? Yeah, women's side of the draw. We had Isla Tomianovic, who has been coming back from some major injuries. She's missed a lot of tennis in the last two years. And she got through as a wild card in this event. She had a really good week in the lead up to this event and got given a wild card. And unfortunately played Yelena Osterpenko, French Open Champion a few years ago. And Osterpenko was just too strong last night, winning 6-1-6-2 in that match. And Tomianovic has had a lot of time out of the game. So I guess for her, you know, the positive issues back on court. And she's able to compete at the highest level again. And that's the biggest challenge for her. And I guess the other Aussie that was in action last night was Olivia Gedecky, another young Aussie girl who fought her way through qualifying and unfortunately lost last night, 6-4-6-4 to Montgomery from the US. And she had a decent draw. Montgomery is another qualifier as well. So it was a decent draw, but just couldn't get over the line last night. And it was a real challenge. Hey, Mark, we might check in with you early next week after the weekend's action. If we can, mate, to get an update on how the Aussies and how the big names are travelling. We're out of time at the moment. But we really appreciate you coming on the show. Anytime, guys. Thanks for having me. Yes, Mark's the fullest. Of course, the tennis menu dot com, if you want to know more. Breakfast, power bike, a boat attack on any job with Kubota's range of tractors, motors and utility vehicles. After seven o'clock Brad Smith will join us in the studio, talking all things player development, the state 15s he's involved in. And Dixie Marshall was on Mark Duffield's show yesterday, talking about a bit of an inquiry, a bit of a deep dive in regards to the retention of young players, boys and girls, and the best way forward. And trying to almost pick the eyes out of the Gold Coast Sydney Swans Academy style and try to get that up here. Trevor Nisabeth's involved in it as well. And a number of others will keep an eye on that one. Sonos, multi-room, listening, wireless home theatre and more. Experience the game, changing sound with Sonos Brad Smith. And after 7.30 Scotty, we've got Drew Jones talking all things footy. To Jones. So interesting enough. So if a tennis match is postponed. Yeah, what it means. From one all over night, do they just pick it up from one all or do they move it forward to about... Bite me. What's that? Yeah, well, man. And if they win, they'll shut up. Three points and take a piece. Letting for a drop in my team. Have another box of cheese. Oh, yes, please unpive with some luck. (LAUGHS) (UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS) (CHEERING) Welcome back, 3.7 degrees. Heading for a drop in 19. After 7.30, Drew Jones joins us from Fox Footy and Fox Sports News talking all things footy in the speculation, of course, of Blake Waterman. Watermelons. We're trying to get onto the bottom of that. Of course, his name has been linked to contract offer from Geelong and also Melbourne. Yeah. Hey, others. Whatever boosts it up and puts a rocket up there. We've got a calling for Paul Pios as well. Brad Smith is the name synonymous to WA football. I think it's a three-time premiership player, 15-time leading goalkeeper. So we'd like... Hey, we've just got to keep it all in the family. Do you still look like those? There's not many of us left, let me tell you right now. Hey, Smithy, thanks for coming in. No, thanks for having us. Yeah. Thanks for, um... The three-time premiership? Yes, three, yeah. Only letting go, because... Four, I think. Four, yeah. Four, I think you know. (LAUGHS) Four, I think. And, actually, to be honest, he played a significant part in that 49-year premiership drought that should be broken in 1973. Oh, that they broke. Although you say he played a significant part in this drought. 'Cause West Perth was a dominant team. They beat two of his three-time down in the second semi. Skidders old man played. It was a superstar for West Perth. I feel sorry. (PHONE RINGING) But got injured. It's just a warning sign. Got injured, had an injury, and didn't play in the grandi. Yeah. And he would have been the difference. Yeah. And... It's funny to say that. So that was in '73. No, without '73. No, what? That wasn't '73, yeah. So in 2003, I kicked. It was funny. Just a quick story. I kicked, I think, 81 goals up. 81 or 83. So did that. 83. And then I hurt my knee in the grand final and didn't participate. And he got injured the game before and didn't participate. So it was quite a... It was quite funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One hell of a career, though, mate. No, thanks, Scotty. Hey, so what are you doing now? I am. So I had... I was a long time at West Coast, as you know, and then caught the redundancy in during COVID. And then had a bit of time off. And now I'm running a footy program with Dan Rumbel at a school called Darling Rain Sports College. Great school. Great school. Absolutely, great school. And you're involved in the state school boys, and we talk about the 15s, predominantly, is that right? Yes. So first of all, thanks very much for giving us... No problems. ..the platform to talk about it. We're trying to raise the profile of it. Especially you had Dixie on yesterday to talk about that talent review that they're doing and they have to do it. That's Footy Commission. Footy Commission. Yep. So we're governed by school sport, WA. So, yeah, just want to get on and just... So they're the poor relation and they're trying to get some form of... You know, I understand their review that they're trying to do. They're trying to get a model similar to that of Gold Coast. And let's say that's not the same model, but that's how the academy works. And we need to try and take out the best info and best data out of what they do at the Gold Coast and also the Sydney Swans and all those academies. If they're the poor relation, so to speak of that, where does that put you guys? Well, that's why they're doing it, so we don't fall behind. Yeah. And we've got to make sure that we don't try to compare ourselves to the state of Victoria, either. Because our state is unique in the sense that everywhere you go in Victoria, there's a talent program. A really good talent program where you go to... The Murray book changes, Geelong, Benny, Go, Ballarat. You name it. There's a little town, you can go get a talent program. Over here, if you're a talent player in the Kimberley, there's not a good, competent, contemporary coach up there, the coach, your kid in the Kimberley. You've got to move. You've got to move. You've got to move. So they're the challenges that we can't really address. That's a barrier. Oh, I heard, listen to Dixie, I was quite interested because she had some great points. At one point, she said that with technology these days, we can coach satellite. I don't know if that's practical, to be honest with you. White does one, doesn't he? Yeah, he gives you some tips, that sort of thing. But you've got to be face-to-face. You can't replicate one-on-one coaching. And these kids we've got in the state school boys, there's 25 and they're all together. We've got kids that travel up from Bunbury and Geraldton and those places. But they're like morning kids. They're competing with each other. They're doing recoveries together. They're doing touch together. They're doing kicking programs together. They're learning. They're sweating together. We can't give a training program to a kid up in Geraldton or Caratha and say replicate what we're doing. It's just crazy if you think you do it. Or I'd like to know what technology can replicate that experience. The state school sport and school footy is not just Perth. That's the issue. No. And we're such a big state. Well, that's right. Well, that's traditionally speaking. So, when I first got involved, I spoke to people at the footy commission. Why aren't you governing this? Why are you with these guys? It was so umbrella. Yes. Well, they're not, but I think they should be working together. And probably the knocks they've had with the state school boys is one. They don't agree with the five games in the seven days, which is a legitimate concern. That's fair enough. We can't do nothing about it other than try to manage all their games throughout the year. We've also got wellness apps where the kids can log in and say this. I'm not feeling well. So, we'll manage their training and those sort of things. They've also been critical of state school boys of picking selecting kids that they want to win now. So, kids who are 15, they've got body like 18-year-old. They're not necessarily talented. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Might have put. Yes. Yes. So, we'd like to think now, Tom's a great up-and-coming coach. We'd like to think now that we select players who we think are talented enough to go on and play Waffle AFL. Not right now. We want to develop players that we think can go on and play AFL. Not be 150 Hall of Fame gamers for the Northern Federals or whoever we want. We want to try to get AFL players. So, to do that, we're brought in when we have our selection games. We'll bring in recruiters. So, we've had four or five recruiters come in and we've got a squad. We picked a squad last year. We got pipped in the grand finals. So, we went over there, bowled over Queensland, which are pretty good these days. It's not just a tick the box at New South Wales, same South Australia. And then we bowled over Vic 2 and then we played Vic 1, which is a combined Vic Country, Vic Metro team in Ballarat and the lard, the cold. And we just... Oh, they're such stacked. Yeah. These are all state schools, aren't they? Yeah. Well, it's called state school boys, but it's still the best player. You can come from a private school. Okay. You can come from a private school. So, our squad, out of the 25 we've got, we've got nine kids from state school, nine from PSA. And then we've got the rest from a Catholic school. All right. We're in a... Yeah. And if you've got a question for Brad Smith, 0487736736, Kathy says, thanks to all the coaching and extended staff for their time and support and expertise with our 15s. My grandson is in the team and travels from Geraldton each week for training to spot his own injury set back. He wouldn't miss a session. Can I tell you about that kid? His name's Reid. And he is an absolute gripper. So, first of all, he just missed out. He was a train on player and we told the train on kid. You didn't make the squad, but if you want to come and train, there's an injury. You're there. So, we had a few... Something in you. And he... Well, he was really good. Like he probably should have been initially. Anyway, he came down every session from Geraldton. His parents drove him down. All right. These are barriers they have. So, they need parents to support him. He's come down, played well in the trial game, someone gets injured. And we thought, "Hey, Reid's doing really well." So, we got Reid in the squad. Then we played Freo next-gen Academy last week and he's broken his collarbone, snapped in half. They put a plate in on it as well. So, he's got a plate in. He's in the sling and his dad rings up, "Listen, can you do something now if the son can't help himself? He's taking the sling off. He's done a 5K run. He's down on a local booty club. He's kicking the balls and we're going, "What's he doing?" "You love a team of roads?" Anyway, we signed it. Go rest up. What's the Netflix? Do your homework. All that. He's driven down. They've driven down to training. He's kicking the balls back. I reckon it's just going to be one of those stories you talk about in '15. He's playing, I fell, and we look back and go, "Remember when Reid was doing this stuff?" So... There's a barrier. Above and beyond. The barrier, Gerald and Kid, the commitment from the parents and himself is very, very inspiring that boys have got around him. I reckon he's going to... It'll be touch and go whether he gets to fly over with the Gold Coast, but he's a great story. So, one of your biggest challenges is obviously funding. So, the 16s and 18s get flown in a state, they play, they get put up and all that sort of jazz and they pay a registration fee of what, 500, 600 bucks or something like that. Yeah, 600. You're in the program? Yeah. So, it's $600 and it's totally different. So, they've got Adam Jones who oversees the 16s and 18s program. The guy, the Adam Jones for us at School Sport, I've come in and seen him around a bit. Peter Smith, he's been a store ward of School Sport, W.A.'s terrific guy and been terrific for School Sport. He'd pop down, I thought, "Oh geez, it'd be good if someone like Jones is always down here." But he... What he does, not only does he do it for W for our school, AFL, he does it for netball, cricket, volleyball. So, he's got to do all that. We don't have an Adam Jones to oversee our whole program. We're all sort of volunteers. So, all the states, the 16s and 18s, they all get paid and they're funded by the AFL club, so the royalties that they get from West Coast Eagles and Fremantle, they own the license. They get a lot of money from West Coast. Yeah. Obviously, they're flush with the cash. What do you get? What do you get? What costs do you guys? What... Okay. Yeah. So, they get 600 and they get the return flights and the coaching and the hotels and all that sort of stuff. Our boys have to cough up $3,000. Right. Yep, to play. So, they'll cover their flights, their levies, their gear, their gear like this. And also, they're not staying, we don't have their duty care, the coaches don't have the duty of care. They actually got to go over there and pay for their return flights, pay for an Airbnb, car to get around and then we'll just see them at training. So, it's... We've got some working-class families last year that have maxed out their credit cards. They're not going to deny their son to represent their stay. Right. So, they get it done. They somehow get it done. So, a couple of... We've got to... We've got to somehow lean on our relationships. I've rang a couple of people who said, "We just wanted this kid to help kick in two and a half or three grand." But, you know, I'd love if some WA company or corporate can come in and say this and we want to support this. There's not a lot we can give them in exposure or anything like that. It'll pretty much be a good thing, socially responsible sort of thing to do, son. I've helped young WA football be in the talent pathway, represent their state. So, I'd love it if there was a WA company out there that can kick in some money to help subsidise their representation in the program. It would be fantastic. You've got to know... There's going to be boys in Miss Ann. There has to be boys in Miss Ann. The cost of living at the moment is through the roof. People genuinely struggling at the moment to pay their bills, and you say, "He's three grand." You need that plus, plus, plus, two. Yes. So, all up. What does it cost? If you've got a boy going across to play in the state school boys, where are they going next? We're going on the Gold Coast. Yep. So, there's a couple of things there. So, we went to the Ballarat last year. I asked a parent that last night, and they said it cost us $10,000. So, that was all those costs that I just spoke about. Others will be six or seven, because they might only take one parent, but both parents and general, you know, general speaker want to go. They'll have a great time. They'll have a great time. They'll have a great time. They'll do a survey at the end of the program. What did you like about? They say overwhelming was a terrific program, but the cost is enormous. So, when we talk about programs and funding, and let's get this review going like Dixie, we need some coin. We need some coin. We're running off a smell of an oily raglock. We need 40. I'll get him from my school, or Tommy, our coach. He'll get him from his school, or bump out. Tommy, who are you talking about? Thomas Garter. He's our coach. He's a terrific young coach, and does a great job. So, yeah. That's... We're talking about talent review. We need some funds. Is there a responsibility? I know the eagles and the dockers pay their royalties that they have to pay. It doesn't seem a lot. I mean, the eagles have got $80 million at the bank, which is not bad for a not-for-profit. Is there a responsibility on eagles? I know they have a business to run, but how do you bricks in the bank is a fair war chest? If they get a responsibility to send a commission, they got a responsibility? They do. And the commission, I will say ever since we've sort of tried to get a line, I went and spoke to Adam Jones a bit about how he can make the program. He's been terrific. He flew over, watched their grand finals, saw a few things that he liked, he said, "Listen, you'll need help here. You'll need help there." And he's actually doing some things that's going to help us get some profile in and around the program. But I will say about the AFL Club last year, got David Wall's friend of mine, and Dave McMullen, they're listed recruiting manager for AFL. They came and watched. There was a few other recruiting clubs there. They came and spoke to our boys. And Wall's, he was terrific. He said, "Listen. It really is, and we really like what we see here. We're going to be helping our NGA boys as well, and West Coast NGA boys. We want to be on board somehow. How can we help? We said, "We need some coin." And he goes, "Listen, I'll speak to Simon Garlic." And then he called back a couple of weeks ago and said, "Garlic's on board. He's a wack of money." So we were very, very appreciated that. So from that, I rang a couple of old mates at West Coast, they said, "I know what they're doing." Well, I just know what Niz was like. If Niz was CEO, you just go up Niz and go, "Listen, very hard way." - Mate, this happened. - And he'd go, "Yup. Email this. See if yadda yadda yadda." So spoke to Maddy Clark, who I think would be terrific for West Coast. He's a new list manager, and they're getting some things together, too, and they're going to be helpful as well. So I want to say, shout out to both AFL. - Yeah. Well done. - That's good to hear. - Well done. The techs are coming in. My twin boys have just made the state school boys under 12 team, and travelled along in August for the national champ. They also made the team last year as a bottom age. The training's been sensational for my boys, and Brad said, "It's so good for my son to be around kids with the same talent." My issue is after this year, there is nothing for them for two years until the 15th. We've even contemplated moving east because my boys are exceptional players and want to be pushed in the next two years, and there's nothing quite like that here in the WA. We really like an academy, also says, and it costs them $9,000 to take their twins over for the carnival. - 12. - Yup. So a couple of things there. - So yeah, it is. So the 12s, so there's the 12s, and the next thing's fit. So they're talking about with review on all those pathways, I think, and they might maybe potentially do the 12s, or 14s, and then a 16. So there's not that big gap as you're saying there. - It is a number of the 15s, isn't it? Because we do go national 16s and A-dains, but 15s is up to year 10. - Oh, depending. Yeah, depending. So there's some year 9s and some year 10s. - Yeah. - Depending on where they are in the calendar year. - Okay. So bottom line is, Smithy, and this is a part of the reason. So in the simple terms is, you've got a whole range of boys who are playing football, but are not in a position for the best part, from all around the state, to fork out the money to go away on these state. Well, they do, they fork it out, but you would like to some sort of support. Now, so if you're a major company, and you do sponsor, what can you get? Is it just naming rights on your tracksuits and stuff like that? And, you know, hopefully there's some return on investment, you know, for those businesses. I mean, we know businesses. I know businesses. And I've just been on the phone, texting someone right now. I hope they're listening. And I know this person is well connected to the footy community. So they're just not aware of the plight. - Yes. - Is it a plight? Are you serious? Is it serious, Nate? - No, no, no, no, no, no. Well, as I said, there's only been, I'll rang that parent, there was one person the last four or five years that didn't come, a very good play, actually a good football person in Western Australia too. He got selected and he made the final 25, they said not to go. And I rang him, I said, listen, was it something about the program? Or what was it? He said, it was just a cost, really. And it wasn't really that they couldn't afford it, it was like, we just couldn't justify it. I said, no, I totally understand. - Do you think some kids slip through the cracks because of the cost it takes to go, isn't it? - No, no. So they'll come and try out. They have trial games and they don't have to put out 20 bucks. So they'll come down from everywhere and try. And if they make it, they make all these cuts and get down to the 25th and they'll somehow find the money, but it just really, really stretches them. - 131255, took your depot open line, or 10-0-4877-3676. Some people are saying it could be actually a sport for the rich at various levels you need to fork it out. - It's expensive. - And you, your boy plays Colts 40. - You pay Colts fees and then you pay your club fees as well because he's a borderline player and they have to be aligned to a club team. So you might play a handful of both and you're coughing up a couple of fees and there's boots and then there's travel and all that sort of jazz. - There's all that. It'd just be great if it was similar to the '16s and '18s program where you know, come up with five or six hundred. That's doable. - Seven to 10,000 is a real, real stretch, especially in today's club. - What's the group like now? What's the squad like? - Yeah, you're really good. So last year we picked 28 in the squad, 25 in the final squad and out of those 28, 19 have gone to the '16s. So the '15s play a really, really important part in the path like given. The reason they do is because you go out and watch these kids as 13 or 14s in the community and I do it all the time. And we talk about in the review a contemporary coaching, full forward, still at full forward at both ends. Like it's very, very 80s and 90s because their community coaches, their parents, yeah, exactly like it. So then when they get into the '15s, at the first time they're exposed to a football experience. Now because it's the first time for a lot of the kids, we've got to drip feed a lot of the stuff like from a total holistic game education, like we will drip feed them game previews before games. Game reviews, you know, recoveries, prehab, you know, defenders. We want defenders to play assertive or defenders to play lockdown or a rolling for line. So these guys have got, what's all this sort of stuff? So we want to make sure that they've got that good football experience, a football experience that also travels and then hand them over to the '16s and they've already had that one year of all that exposure of a footy program. And in the past, I think the state school boys, they've been critical of who they choose, the retention from going into the '15s and '16s isn't as high as what it is now. So hopefully we're ticking that football experience off in the talent pathway. So a lot of the things that Dixie's put in that working document, it's great. And we'd like to think that we're getting there, we're ticking a few of those boxes, but the big box that needs to be ticked is just some resourcing like what the footy commission get with the '16s and '18s. It's a good point you make, especially if it's a part of the pathway, it's got to start at another level down, it won't even have to start lower, but this is the closest part to that '16s and '18. There's a lot of talk early in the year that we're going to produce no talent this year now, obviously, it's on the '18s, draftable talent, but I think they've shown that there's I think there's probably five or six at all, more than likely get drafted, it's five or six enough. Well, I don't think, generally speaking, no is the short answer, but sometimes you're going to have those years that there's anomalies that there's not going to be as many as the other. Now, we've got to compare ourselves for like the like state, like the like state for us, given our football set ups, probably the San for the South Australia, and I think last 10, 15 years, we've always performed a smidge better than South Australian terms of draftables. We've always averaged... But we can't beat them in state games. Can't we? I don't know. It's for thee. Okay, I'm going to dumb this down just before we let you go, we appreciate it. Brad Smith is in the studio from school sport, of course, and talking about the '15s and they need help. They need some sort of financial support to help the next generation of kids because the parents are forking out and we've had parents text us in today as they 7 to 9 grand to get across and the like, and they love the program, but they just need some help. In simple terms, what sort of money do you need? Overall, if you said to me, and I guess I only said don't set a ceiling, well, what would be a nice little pot that would assist the group right now? Let's talk about right now. All right. Listen, I'm not an accountant or I'm worked as a CFO at the 40 clubs in marketing and business development to get anything is good, anything is good, anything live free on West Coast to keep chipping in, that's great. 50 to 100. Yeah. Okay. So we're talking about 50 to 100 grand. How much do you get out of the referee commission? Roughly. Nothing. Nothing. And how much before you put your hand out and mentioned the free mound on West Coast, how much did you get? Nothing. So who, who, who? How do you? So well, well, well, exactly. So we're going to play. Where, where? We're volunteers. So it's called the Point WA School Sport and Pete Smith would probably like you to answer a couple of those questions. So it's called the Point WA and the Education Department, they will, while on the way selecting the team, while I'm away coaching the team, they'll pay for someone to replace me at my school. Yeah. So that's, that's, that's a cost. Yeah. And there's four or five of them. I get all that. Yep. But that's not helping. That's not helping directly. It's helping the families because you get the best coaching. Great record and stuff. But we are genuinely talking about how do we take the financial burden of families who could be the families of the next star who could play at this stadium, who could be drafted, play through our state 16s and 18s program. And that's where they all come from. That's where the Harley Reid comes from through the country and all that sort of stuff. Bottom line is you're not getting any assistance. No. And that's what I'm here. To get any government assistance. Like a certain school sport, I understand there's always intertwined, but. No. No. All right. You talk about retention of players. This is. Yeah, it doesn't make any. So it's strange, but you talk about retention of players and people playing our sport. That'll have an influence on even maybe not the ones that make the state team, but the ones that might add 12 or 13 think, I'm a chance to make it, I want to make it, I want to make it. And then all of a sudden they go, well, if I do make it, that goal's unattainable because mom don't can't afford it. Yep. Speedy, we could go on, we could go on and on and on all about this. You've come in and you've certainly pushed the barret nicely, it is a wonderful talent pathway. In simple terms, can we win on the Gold Coast? Yeah. Look, we had some. We had some. When I'd read him, I'd get a finest spot for me when I read him. He's tough. He'll play with a couple of bones. Yeah. He might play with no bones at all. I hope he goes over because he plays for Keeps That Kid, that kind of boy. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for having us. And thanks to SELN. I do listen to the program. Thanks very much for giving us a platform to talk about this too. Do you miss me on Twitter? I miss you. It's been eight days, mate. It's been eight days. It's been eight days. I always like giving him a bit of a kick out when Keeps up a couple of winners there. When I actually messaged him, I messaged him to see if I can come on and pump up the 15th row. Oh, of course. I actually know. I said, listen, I've got to win us that day too for you. One, nothing. Didn't get nothing back from the great man. Did you back it? All his choice. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. Non-Pantomide. I'm a giver. I'm a giver. It's 26 past seven, four degrees, four degrees. Oh, it's jumping. Good luck to the walk to the cast. Get up. 19 is the top. Drew Jones talking footy after 7.30. 12.55, Toki Depo, open line, or Tek 0, 4.8, 7, 3, 6, 7, 3, 6, bed shed, experts in temperum mattresses, pillows, and adjustable bases, he can give us a text, and it's been very busy. Mark Duffield's in after eight o'clock. I listened to your Dixie Marshall interview, which was fantastic, and we just had Brad Smith in. So, again, down the foot, Jane, they're also in need of-- They're starving. Yeah, so it's-- and this is the different aspects of the talent development pathway and how it has to be resourced. And as Dixie said, a little bit further down the track, they will be going to people like the AFL and saying, "We need-- we have this plan, we're going to put this in place, we're going to try and increase the base number of kids involved, then we're going to try and upskill them in a better way using experts from across a range of sports, but we're going to need money to ressource it." So-- Can I ask you a question? It might be-- might be a dumb one. If both clubs-- and I know, obviously West Coast-- and I was told 80 million in the bank they have, they were not for profit, what's the responsibility in spending that? It's a good question, and I've been into this before, and it's why I've developed the theory that West Coast should be sold because they're more-- worth more to the WA football system privatized than as the entities that they are. The basically-- the way it operates is that they basically operate under a sublease from the football commission. But to all intents and purposes, while there is an agreement in place that they pay a royalty, they are a body independent from the football commission. Their board is responsible for their finances and not for the-- not for the finances of WA footy, and once you come to understand board responsibilities, they have to act in the best financial interests of their club, which doesn't involve donating money around the place. So-- What have you got coming up? John Hammond today from Hammond Legal, we'll be talking-- if you've got legal issues or you want to talk about sport and the law, pretty keen to talk to John today about where the Olympics coming up and the things we've seen happening around gymnastics programs and those sort of things. The fine line between being elite and crossing the line into stuff that could be termed as abuse of younger people-- it's an interesting sport, isn't it, gymnastics, because the participants at elite level are so young. And what happens there and what protections are in place for them. And also Eliza Riley, obviously, we'll talk to Eliza about the Women's Awards, WA for W Awards, which took place early in the week. I'm doing an auction for the Olympic Paralympic Fairwell Dinner on Friday night, just a handful of items. If you want to buy a car, there's a car up for grabs, it's a Toyota Land Cruise of 300 X. It's $130,000. Yeah. All right. So if you just-- I'll open the bidding at $5,000. If you're just walking fast, it won't get dropped in and buy itself a car. Yeah, well, that's a good one. A couple of texts coming in. "Hi, I've got the other daughter playing in the state 15, and we live in the country. We travel 10 hours once a week for training. The cost is even greater as my wife, or I need to take a day off work. I think it's unbelievable. The AFL will waffle do not invest money into this program, and this is a grassroots of the game." Yeah. And the-- this is school boys, or school girls. School girls? Yeah. Yeah. So that sits apart from the talent pathway, which is an interesting thing, because same sport, like top-line. Well, they have PSA kids playing, so they can go into the '16s and '18s programs right after this. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fascinating thing. Nine grand to send some kids away. Guys, instead of state government spending millions of dollars on concerts and UFC, they should be putting into junior sports. They shouldn't have to fork out hundreds of dollars for their kids to play. Well, they do. I mean, I think playing sport is not going to fund every cent, but it's the elite of the elite that are good enough to go to the next level. Yeah. Shouldn't really be forkin' out at top of that. And maybe, when they do spend millions on concerts in UFC, that brings a lot of money to the state as well. It does. Maybe, you know, you say, "Well, everything we're spending on these things and everything we make from it, we're going to give 10% to sport, or 20% to sport, or 20% of the arts, or that sort of jazz. This is just coming, and we'll hear you after 8 o'clock, Mark Duffhield, 4.3 degrees heading for 19. Drew Jones talking all things footy. Jake Waterman's contract on the agenda. [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] [MUSIC] We keep the best till last. Drew Jones, Fox Footy, you just seen pumping it out there at Connections. Dr. Jones. Well, wherever. Yeah. It's Club Geronimo's, whatever it's called. My ass, silver slipper, rumours. He would have dominated. Yeah. What was your type of choice, Josie? Could I have seen that Metro Spreo is re-ogrowing has had a re- there? I reckon they would have rolled aqua out on the top floor of Metropolis, Fremantle. We looked like Jack on the side afterwards. It's gone, the hungry Jack. So I was down there last week, having a chilly must of Wednesday, and it was amazing at what's that place down there? Yeah, you're Tommy. No, the famous place. The fish are Alex? No. No. In the main drag. No, don't go down there. What's it called? I don't know. It's, you know, famous. You're famous, John. Well, they have great and chilly muscles. It's got to know the name of it, but he loved it to the whole family there. Gino's awesome. Nah, just, you know, something else. Hey, Josie. We've got John to not talk about food and dancing, but Andrew Diddle had this to say about unpiring. I think it's as good as it's ever been. You're unpiring. In the second year of a four umpire system as well, so we're on a journey with the four umpire system. But I don't understand why, but there's always been a focus on unpiring, and it's been, you know, I'm pretty old and it's been around for as long as I've been around. And they will continue to be. But I think it caused the competition is so tight that maybe there's an increased focus on the umpire. That would be on down well with the punters. No, I don't go. We don't go. But maybe third or fourth question on unpliring that press conference in Adelaide. And I think Diddle's just got a little tongue tied and went away from the pre-rehearsed script that he was going through with his advisors at the AFL couldn't possibly believe in their heart of hearts that the umpiring is as good as it's ever been, surely. You wouldn't have thought so, because we're talking about it more than we've ever spoken about. And I said on Monday, when there's a loser's segment, when it was the umpiring, the players are confused, the coaches are confused, the fans are confused, and it looks more importantly and more alarmingly, the umpires are confused. I think Brad Scott actually told it well when he said it got to a point on Saturday night where there were so many bad decisions that it was like, well, in the end, we're not probably angry about the mistakes. It's more about we're just confused on the interpretations because some of the lack of the holding the ball calls mixed into the obvious areas that were made, that would have been infuriating to them. Obviously, the fans are going to get angry when decisions go against them, and someone said to me it was an atmosphere at the MCG that they hadn't experienced before. The way the game changed on about five or six umpiring decisions back to back to back in that third quarter, they should have come out on Monday and actually addressed it, which they didn't do. They said, oh, the decisions weren't decisive in the game. So we won't go through them one by one. But then they just left Brad Scott to do that on the half out 360 because they spoke to Scott for three hours on the phone explaining all the decisions. So they just didn't want to front the umpiring blunders that have been made on Saturday night. And to me, that was a mistake. They should have owned it early on Monday, and then we could have moved on. And then it's compounded by what's been said by Andrew Dillon. So in my view, the four umpires hasn't worked out. The unintended consequences of having inexperienced or core quality umpires on the field has detracted from the quality of the decision making. So I'll roll back to three umpires and then move everyone down a level and get them developing the lower levels. That's what I would do. Yeah. Agree. And I think there are umpires capable of doing two games. I think there's a Friday night and a Sunday afternoon. That's two days. Is that with four umpires? Because obviously with four, they run less. It's supposed to go with four, but just get rid of the inexperienced umpire and have another senior in that place, rather than say, hey, we've got two seniors, a mid-senior, and then a really young one that we don't know. There is massive confusion about the overruling. We see it so often that the end zone umpire, who's a hundred meters away, will make the core and the two umpires are standing literally right on it. Oh, over 20 way. Yeah. So look, look, it's a difficult job. Don't get me wrong. Oh, and we know that. And the rules keep changing, but they've got to get it right. And I'm not going to throw anyone under the bus on Wednesday, because that's not our style. We've been pretty good today than yesterday. Under the bus Wednesday, we could have. Yeah. So Laura Kane is out of the country? Well, I don't know. She's on holidays. I believe she's on holidays here, which just seems strange to me that people in extreme power take holidays during the season. There's October through to February, at least you could probably have a spell, but I believe she's. Oh, yes. Well, that's interesting. And that would explain why she didn't address the media on Monday. I mean, I took a week off to go to Byron during the season. So am I getting a pass for that? I said, I said positions of power, mate. All right. Well, senior AFL reporter at Foxport. No, very true. And not only that, Paul Hayser, we took AFL grand final layoff once. Yeah. Well, you can't do that. Not when it's the only one ever that's been in your state. No, no. He was playing. Yeah. Hey, Jordan Boyd is four hours. And you know what? I saw that incident, that free kick, and I thought, oh, there's a free kick. He got a week for that. And then it took four hours for him to appeal to get off. Got funky as well. The AFL said that Carlton were victim-blind by saying that Mansu ducked his head and wanted to for a free kick. Yeah. Today, that the final free kick is not a one-week suspension. Boyd was barely moving. And they looked to me like Mansu just sort of put his head down and bumped into him. So we said that happened during the game and it almost just a free kick. So I know that there was some response. So Jack Raywell was like, oh, how many weeks is Mansu getting? Yeah. He was sort of being sarcastic and didn't like the way that Carlton were arguing the case. But I think they were right, but in the end the tribunal actually said, no, it was a bump by Boyd, but we think the impact was so low that it's only working fine. So it was probably the right result, but I didn't think it was a reportable offense. Now, the big talking point that we've opened the show with, and I think John Ralph went with it on Fox, is the Jake Waterman sought after out of contract shortly at the end of next year. I think it is. I stand corrected on that. His player manager inside 50, Paul Pios, best mates of his dad, Chris. I noticed Peter forwarded and tagged Chris into a post about Jake Waterman's future. On social media. So the Waterman family are putting it out there themselves. So Jake's kind of getting a new deal, but there's a couple of Melbourne clubs chasing for him hard. And why wouldn't he? He's in great form. Well, I was just about to say, you can understand why other clubs would have their antennas up because he's playing such great footies. So he deserves a big pay rise, which he's going to get, depending on where he wants to go. And obviously, West Coast sort of stood by him through some issues that he's had injury wise and illness wise. So whether he feels that loyalty, obviously, the strong family history as well. But there'll be some enticing offers on the table, potentially from clubs that are more in the immediate leadership window if that's something that you're interested in. So having a lot of water going on the bridge with the contract going through to the end of next year, the Eagles have got a bit of work to do on that space, not just Jake, but a few others. So I've got plenty of money in the cap. I've got money to spend in West Coast, so you think they'd be out of some part of the dollars? No, we're going somewhere. There's a lot of money that's going to be going to one young man, that's for sure. I don't think there's any sense of he owes the club anything. He got seriously ill during the season while he's on the contract and there was a little bit of conjecture in how that was handled by the club through the family, weren't that police. I'm not sure he owes him anything, but he's going to be some clubs that'd be very, very keen. And the first one you think of straightaway is Melbourne. Yeah, so it's Melbourne and Geelong. Yeah. Melbourne and Geelong are two clubs in the front. Well, it's big. Tomahawk. Can I just say this? Standby. We're taking it to the bank. He ain't gone anyway. Wow. Take it to the bank, OK? There will be a deal announced within a month. This, well, they're going down the L.A. Yopa. They're going, wow, he's got so much interest and they're going to throw this much anyway and they're expecting within a week a deal to be done. Or in a use in Kyoto and in like they seem to be the clubs that keep the helping club. And throw Collinwood in there too. Everyone's going to Collinwood at some stage, you know. Paul's got to do his job and get the dollars up on the contract. He's going to get the stories out there that other clubs are interested. John Ralph, he is the poster boy for that story, isn't he? The manager's going to get some of the interest from other clubs. Yeah, exactly right. It's been a few that have misfolded. It's a thorn in the game. Hey, what about the pies? We see that bro McCree is going to miss six with a half, so the injury toll continues. Just when it looked like the pies were starting to get back some troops and there's going to be a lot of interest at the session today ahead of the big game against the bombs. Yeah, so Brad and Maynard and Josh Dakos both got caught, which they need to get through the session today and generally if they don't finish the main session for the pies, they don't give them a chance to prove themselves that the captain's run. That's been the pattern from Craig McCrayo as the journey. So they need to get through today. So yeah, Fox Sports will be there watching on. It's going to be a huge game on Friday night. I just feel like Essendon have got a little bit to prove and then Collinwood last week nearly got back. That would 10 guys down against North Melbourne. So they've got a few things to fix up, so I reckon we'll learn a lot Friday night should get absolute delta. Jonesy, you do get around to training. I'm just interested to know, we talk about these closed sessions and respect for clubs that have closed sessions. Tell us a bit about the closed session policy at a team like Collinwood. Do you get access to, do they let you win the whole session? Do they shut you out after half an hour? They can't have a closed session though, can they? And the media subscribe to it and drive past and say yes, we understand it and pay respect or how does it play out over there? No, no, we can watch every session at Collinwood except for the ones that have indoors and occasionally one camera might be allowed into the captain's run, but no, everything's on the table at the pies. It's different now. The very open grounds now, a lot of community space and all that sort of thing is very different from suburban grounds where they'd lock every gate and cover every hole, there's not many secrets. The two clubs here can't have closed sessions, but they do, but they do. They say the media is not at well-confident, you know, can come in for 20 minutes and then leave, but you can still watch it from outside, but you can't have it obviously, it optimizes only difficulty unless you work here at SCN, you can watch every session in time you like. When you watch the curators do their thing. Hey, Jonesy, we really appreciate your time, mate. It's been a busy show so far. We know you're a busy man. We appreciate it. We'd like a bit more, Dr Jones, if we can, if you boy to send the great man out. What would your disco wig be? What sort of kit would you roll out if you were just getting down there? Let's try to spray out that blue-row L-wood shirt which I used to roll out like a blue-row yellow. Did you roll the sleeves up? I'm going to say I got the jump done. Yeah. Oh, hello. That's right, I'm 92% done about the standard of all position down there, let me tell you right there. Good idea, Jonesy. Hey, boy. Thank you. [Music] [Music] [Music]
