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We've just seen pumping it out there at connections. We've got Dr Jones. Well, we're at Fred's Club, Geronimo's, what it's called, Jeremiah's, Silver Slipper, Rumors. He would have dominated. What was your club of choice, Josie? I think Metro's Freo is reo. I reckon they would have rolled aqua out on the top floor. It's a metropolis for a mental vehicle. It's gone, the hungry jack, so I was down there. Last week, having Chili Mussel Wednesday, and it was amazing. What's that place down there? Yeah, you're Tommy. The famous place. The Cicerallops? No. No. In the main drag. No, I don't go down there. What's it called? I don't know. It's famous. You're a famous, John. Well, they didn't have a great Chili Mussel. It's not to know the name of it, but he loved it to the whole family there. Geno's was like, nah, you know, something else. Hey, Jones, have we got you on to not talk about food and dancing? But Andrew Dillon had this to say that I'm paring. I think it's as good as it's ever been. You know, I'm paring. Yeah, we're in the second year of a four umpire system as well. So we're on a journey with the four umpire system, but I don't understand why, but there's always been a focus on umpiring and it's been, you know, I'm pretty old and it's been around for as long as I've been around. And they will continue to be. But I think it caused the competition is so tight. Maybe there's an increased focus on the umpire. Is that actually on down well with the punters? No. Own goal. Be going goal. Maybe third or fourth question on umpiring in that press conference in Adelaide, and I think Dale's just got a little tongue tied and went away from the pre-rehearse script that he was going through with his advisers. The AFL couldn't possibly believe in their harder parts that the umpiring is as good as it's ever been, surely. You wouldn't have thought so, because we're talking about it more than we've ever spoken about. And I said on Monday, when is the loser's segment? The umpiring, the players are confused, the coaches are confused, the fans are confused, and it looks more importantly and more alarmingly, the umpires are confused. I think Brad Scott actually played it well when he said it got to a point on Saturday night where there were so many bad decisions that it was like, but we're not, in the end, we're not probably angry about the mistakes. It's more about we're just confused on the interpretations, because some of the lack of the holding the ball calls mixed into the obvious areas that were made, that would have been infuriating to them. Obviously, the fans are going to get angry when decisions go against them, and someone said to me it was an atmosphere at the NCAA that they hadn't experienced before the way that just the game changed on about five or six umpiring decisions back to back in that third quarter. They should have come out on Monday and actually addressed it, which they didn't do, they said, "Oh, the decisions weren't decisive in the game, so we won't go through them one by one." But then they just left Brad Scott to do that on after 360, because they spoke to Scott for three hours on the phone explaining all the decisions, so they just didn't want to front the umpiring blunders that have been made on Saturday night, and to me that was a mistake, they should have owned it on early on Monday, and then we could have moved on, and then it's compounded by what's been said by Andrew Dillon, so in my view, the four umpires hasn't worked out. The unintended consequences of having inexperienced or core quality umpires on the field has detracted from the quality of the decision-making, so I'll roll back to three umpires and then move everyone down a level and get them developing in the lower levels. That's what I would do. Yeah, agree. And I think there are umpires capable of doing two games. I think there's a Friday night and a Sunday afternoon. That's two days. Is that with four umpires? Because obviously with four they run less. Happy to go with four, but just get rid of the inexperienced umpire and have another senior in that place, rather than say, "Hey, we've got two seniors, a mid-senior, and then a really young one that we don't know." There is massive confusion about the overruling. We see it so often that the end zone umpire, who's a hundred meters away, will make the core, and the two umpires are standing literally right on it. Oh, I've been 20-way. Yeah, so look at that. It's a difficult job. Don't get me wrong. And we know that. And the rules keep changing, but they've got to get it right. And I'm not willing to throw anyone under the bus on a Wednesday, because that's not our style. We've been pretty good today. Over the bus Wednesday, we could have. Yeah. So Laura Kane is out of the country? Well, I don't know. She's on holidays. I believe she's on holidays here, which just seems strange to me that people in the extreme power take holidays during the season. There's October through to February at least. You could probably have a spell, but I believe she's OS. Well, that's interesting. And that would explain why she didn't address the meeting on Monday. I mean, I took a week off to go to Byron during the season. So am I getting a pass for that? I said positions of power, mate. All right. Well, senior AFL reporter at Foxport. No, very true. And not only that, Paul Hayser, we took AFL grand final layoff once. Yeah. Well, you can't do that. No, but it's the only one ever that's been in your state. No, no, he was playing. Yeah. Hey, Jordan Boyd is four hours. And you know what? I saw that incident, that free kick. And I thought, oh, there's a free kick. He got a week for that. And then it took four hours for him to appeal to get off. Got funky as well. The AFL said that Carlton were victim blamed by saying that Mansfield ducked his head and wanted to for a free kick. Yeah. Today, that's a fine or a free kick. It's not a one-way suspension. Boyd was barely moving. And they looked to me like Mansfield just sort of put his head down and bumped into him. So we said I happened during the game and it's just a free kick. So I know that there was some response. So Jack Raywell was like, oh, how many weeks is Mansfield getting? Yeah. He was sort of being sarcastic and didn't like the way that Carlton were arguing the case. But I think they were right. But in the end, the tribe didn't actually said, no, it was a bump by Boyd. But we think the impact was so low that it's only working fine. So it was probably the right result. But I didn't think it was a reportable effect. Now, the big talking point that we've opened the show with. And I think John Ralph went with it on Fox. It's the Jake Waterman sort of out of contract shortly at the end of next year. I think it is. I'll stand corrected on that. And his player manager inside 50, Paul Pius, best mates of his dad, Chris. I noticed Peter forwarded and tagged Chris into a post about Jake Waterman's kitchen. There's one mum. On social media. So the Waterman family are putting it out there themselves. So Jake's kind of getting a new deal. But there's a couple of Melbourne clubs chasing for him hard. And why wouldn't he he's in great form? Well, I was just about to say, you can understand why other clubs would have their antennas up. Because he's playing such great footies. So he deserves a big pay rise, which he's going to guess, depending on where he wants to go. And obviously, West Coast sort of stood by him through some issues that he's had injury-wise and illness-wise. So whether he feels that loyalty, obviously, the strong family history as well. But, yeah, there'll be some enticing offers on the table, potentially from clubs that are more immediate. You know, in the immediate commission window, if that's something you're interested in. So, yeah, I mean, a lot of water going on the bridge with the contract going through to the end of next year. The Eagles have got a bit of work to do on that space. Not just Jake, but a few others. So, I've got plenty of money in the cap. I've got money to spend West Coast. So you think they'd be out of some part of the dollars? No, we're going somewhere. There's a lot of money that's going to be going to one young man. That's for sure. But I don't think there's any sense of he owes the club anything. He got seriously ill during the season while he's on the contract. And there was a little bit of conjecture on how that was handled by the club through, you know, the family weren't that pleased. I'm not sure he owes him anything. But, jeez, there'd be some clubs that'd be very, very keen. And the first one you'd think of straightaway is Melbourne. Yeah, so it's Melbourne and Geelong, yeah. Melbourne and Geelong are the two clubs of the four. They're the two clubs of the four. Can I just say this? Standby, we're taking it to the bank. He ain't going anywhere. Wow. Take it to the bank, okay? There will be a deal announced within a month. They're going down the alley at Yopa. They're going, "Wow, he's got so much interest!" And they're going to throw this much anyway. And they're expecting within a week a deal to be done. Or in a use in Kyoto or in a lake. They seem to be the clubs that keep helping. And throw Collingwood in there too. Everyone's going to Collingwood at some stage. Paul's got to do his job and get the dollars up on the contract. He's going to get the stories out there that other clubs are interested. John Ralph is the poster boy for that story, isn't he? The manager's going to pump up the interest from other clubs. Yeah, exactly right. It's been a few that have misfired. It's a thorn in the game. Hey, what about the pies? We see that Bro McCree is going to miss six with a half. So the injury toll continues just when it looked like the pies are starting to get back. Some troops. And there's going to be a lot of interest at the session today ahead of the big game against the bombs. Yeah, so Brad and Maynard and Josh Dakos both got corks, which they need to get through the session today. And generally, if they don't finish the main session for the pies, they don't give them a chance to prove themselves that the captain's run. That's been the pattern from Craig McCrayo as a journey. So they need to get through today. So yeah, Fox Sports will be there watching on. It's going to be a huge game on Friday night. I just feel like Esonin have got a little bit to prove. And then Collingwood last week nearly got back. That would 10 girls down against North Melbourne. So they've got a few of them to fix up. So I reckon we'll learn a lot Friday night should get up. Jonesy, you do get around to training. I'm just interested to know we talk about these closed sessions and respect for clubs that have closed sessions. Tell us a bit about the closed session policy at a team like Collingwood. Do you get access to? Do they let you win the whole session? Do they shut you out after half an hour? They can't have a closed session. Does the media subscribe to it and drive past and say yes, we understand it and pay respect? Or how does it play out over there? No, no, we can watch every session at Collingwood except for the ones that had indoors. And occasionally one camera might be allowed into the captain's run. But no, everything's on the table at the pass. It's different now. The very open grounds now, a lot of community space and all that sort of thing is very different from suburban grounds where they lock every gate and cover every hole. There's not many secrets. The two clubs here can't have closed sessions, but they do. They say the media is not at well-confident. It can come in for 20 minutes and then leave. But you can still watch it from outside. Yeah, absolutely. But you can't have it obviously. It optimizes the only difficult point unless you work here at SCN. You can watch every session in time you like. We can watch the curators do their thing. Hey, Jonesy, we really appreciate your time, mate. It's been a busy show so far. We know you're a busy man. We appreciate it. We'd like a bit more, Dr. Jones, if we can think. If you'd like to send the great man out. What would your disco wig be? What sort of kit would you roll out if you were just getting down there? It's just pretty old. It's a blue-row L-wood shirt that takes the roll out. It's like a blue-row yellow. Yeah. Did you roll the sleeves up? I'm going to say I got the jump dunk. Yeah. Oh, hello. Hello. That's right. It's a 92 percent. I don't know about the standard of all position down there. Let me tell you right now. Good idea, Jonesy. Hi, boys. Thank you. [Music]
