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On Your Marks... -Ep 285 The Fumblerooski Podcast

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30 Jul 2024
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Top 10 teams going into the 2024 NFL season and two at Tongue of Ayloa and Jordan Love signed two massive extensions. Are they worth it? I'm Adam Wright, this is the Fumble Ruski Podcast. It may not have always showed it in the stat sheet but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. No one's got to get that 6 or 7th spot. Welcome to the Fumble Ruski Podcast by Power88 and Seeker Weapon Consulting. I'm Adam Wright with CJ Madeeros. We got a great episode planned for you guys today as this is the first week where we are actually getting football and we will not have a week where we don't have football until mid-February. Ladies and gentlemen, we did it. The Hall of Fame game is this Thursday at 8 o'clock p.m. We've got the Houston Texans at the Chicago Bears. A couple of the most interesting teams going into this season I might add, the Houston Texans made a massive turnaround going from the one of the worst teams in the league to being potentially a Super Bowl contender already and also being division champions last year. Also you have the Chicago Bears who just added a ton of talent on the offensive side of the ball and just added a new quarterback so a lot of things to unpack there but we're going to start with team rankings so we've finished with all of our player rankings for every skill position and we're going on to top 10 NFL teams so we're going to go from 10 through 1 each of us have a ranking. This is going into the season so remember if we have a team that you do not want to be at its certain spot okay fine if you disagree but just remember this is going into next year just because a team is lower that had a good season last year that has nothing to like last season has nothing to do with this year so just remember that. All right without further ado CJ start us off. All right Ian my number 10 from the AFC East is the Miami Dolphins. Now there's no denying the talent they have I mean let's just be real these guys you know to just got extended more on that later you know Waddle Hill, Moaster, A-chain but I've said this before they're all sizzle no steak you know once you take away their gimmicks they usually don't last very long especially not in the playoffs but based on talent alone they are a top 10 team. Now my number nine kind of same thing with the Dolphins just with a little more substances the Philadelphia Eagles these guys they got exposed last season they got punched in the mouth and you know that they're listening to the media and they are ready to prove people wrong however word of caution if they don't succeed that this year then I am hearing that it's probably going to be Sirionny's head but then again you got Jalen Hurts you got AJ Brown a good young defense that basically ripped from Georgia but that's either here nor there but yeah no I have confidence in them then at number eight also from the NFC East is the Dallas Cowboys. A bunch of guys in contract years that are going to be playing lights out but once again this is also what we think they're going to do so I think they're going to tear it up for the regular season but come on once they get to the playoffs you and I both know how that story ends. At number seven this might shock some people from the NFC West it's the San Francisco 49ers reigning NFC champs. Why is that you might ask? Look Christian McCaffrey is good Devo Samuel you know Brock Purdy, Nick Boso, Fred Warner, Towneau, Hufanga all all good but one I don't know if they're going to have IU to start the year and two Super Bowl hangover is very very real just ask the Denver Broncos. And then at my number six from the NFC North the Green Bay hackers they have the makings of something special again they have found their third straight franchise quarterback because you know it was better than hearing the cheese heads whine all the time if they didn't get it. However once again well I think Jordan Love has the makings to be the next big thing in Green Bay. I also think one year does not an elite player make and as a result I put them at six but don't be shocked if they're representing the NFC in the Super Bowl. My number five the Baltimore Ravens lost some pieces on the O line but counterpoint Derek Henry and they got Nate Wiggins in the draft so they've stayed roughly the same but once again we're going to need Lamar stay healthy for a second straight year and Derek Henry's going to take that offense to the next level. At number four the Detroit Lions I feel weird saying this but I have a lot of hope for these guys. I really do. I mean look at how they've played in the past and then look at last season. I have no reason to suspect that they won't make the NFC Championship again and they got better. That's the thing they kept all of their young pieces. They added in free agency you know they beefed up the line and their secondary so why not Detroit. Am I number three it's the Houston Texans. CJ Stroud as a rookie blew the doors off the league and hand they actually got better. They built around him by adding people like Stefan Diggs and Joe Mixin and not to mention they added some players on defense as well. The only thing that has me a little wary is much like the Packers. I think that one year isn't the best evaluator. We'll see come this year but I just think the Texas ceiling is also higher. At number two it's the reigning champs the Kansas City Chiefs. The Chiefs are kind of like the old Patriots where so long as they had their guy that Pats and Tom Bray the Chiefs have Mahomes you can never ever count them out. However is worth noting that strictly from a roster standpoint Kansas City got worse. They lost few pieces especially like on defense so but we all once again as long as they have Mahomes he'll probably wilt them to the AFC Championship game barring a catastrophic collapse. My number one's got to be the Cincinnati Bengals because for Sensei it's just a matter of what they want to do. The pressure is on. I'm going to be honest with you look at what they're saying it's Super Roller Boss right. They know that come next season T Higgins will not be in a bad uniform in a massive cap crunch and while they did lose Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixin they beefed up the offensive line. The offensive line is best they haven't been. The defense lost a few key pieces but that was kind of offset with a few more under the radar signings that will still work. So overall as long as Burrow stays healthy they will be a Super Bowl threat and the reason I think that the Bengals are going to be as dangerous as ever because they know that it's now or never for the Super Bowl and if I know Sensei they want it now. All right so as for my list going here at 10 I actually have the Miami Dolphins too just like you for all the same reasons. They have a lot of good talent on the offensive side of the ball can't put it together. They'll probably division be division champions too. Again they're going to be it's going to be between them and the bangle them and the Bills and the Jets. It's going to be a contest of who loses in the wild card round to the Texans or the Chiefs or the in the division around for that matter. At number nine I have the Green Bay Packers. Jordan Love is coming up. He has proven that he is a very very good wide very good quarterback at least at least that he's a starting quarterback in this league. The only reason that I have have them this low is because they have too many question marks in their pass catching core. One of those players is to step up and be the number one guy. At number eight I have the Dallas Cowboys. Based on talent this team should be much much higher on this list. This is a team that constantly restocks the the restocks that covered with talent through the draft but they just can't get it done once they get to the postseason. They may be division champions. They may the either way I think they're going to the playoffs. Only problem is they just can't put together every year. I'm anticipating very big years from Dak Prescott and Seeding Lamb statistically but it's not going to end up mattering. At number seven I have the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals are going to play better than Joe Burroughs quality of his haircut. However that doesn't say too much because it's not it's not the best look for him. Not my favorite but they have they have the talent to return to the playoffs and at least be a contending team. They're top seven in the league in my book but I mean they they've lost a couple of pieces on their offense and they're they have a little bit of a cap crunch that's starting to become it's I fear a little bit of a distraction and then at number six I have their division rival Baltimore Ravens. So the Ravens lost a couple pieces on their offensive line. They've lost a little bit in their in their defense. There's no two ways about it. The reason I have them top six is because of those RPOs that they are going to run with Derek Henry and Lamar Jackson. I'm hearing a lot of well Derek Henry isn't the same guy. He's washed. He just had 1,100 yards last year even if he has 900 this year even if he's a fraction of what he was. Let's say 75% of what he usually is. That's still a very very deadly combo between him and Lamar Jackson and on top of that they have a past game that has improved the from lap from a couple seasons ago. Now going to number five entering the top five of my top 10. We have the Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles are an improved team. This is a guy who this is a team that is complete that looking at the running back position. This is a run first team that just added Saquon Barkley. With him and Jalen Hertz it's going to be a deadly combo. They are a team that is run first. They heard the fans when they were complaining all season long during the at least during the second half start running the football. Well now they have a guy who can do that with Jalen Hertz and they still have AJ Brown and they have Devonta Smith and Dallas Goddard to be multi-dimensional on offense. At number four we have the San Francisco 49ers. Another team that based off personnel should be much higher on the list. The problem is they just lost the Super Bowl. It's not an analytical argument. I get it but it just always ends up being that way. No team that loses the Super Bowl ends up being the same team the next year. Doesn't matter if they have their ducks in a row or anything. There's always something that goes wrong. They could even end up being playoff a playoff team. I would bank on them being a playoff team and even division champions but they're just not going to be the same team that they were last year. Again not an analytical argument but that's the way it goes. At number three I have the Detroit Lions. This is a team that's on the up and up. They lost in the conference in the NFC Championship and they improved afterwards over the off season. Their biggest weakness was their secondary. They worked on that via free agency and through the draft. That was their biggest weakness and they plugged that up. Now the team top to bottom is solid. They're going to go as far as Jared Goff allows them to. I have my doubts that he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback but he's gotten the team to a Super Bowl before. Once you're there to give your team the chance why not them? So we'll see. At number two I have the Kansas City Chiefs. This is a team that based on the roster in the same ways that I've said the Dallas Cowboys, the Cincinnati Bengals, the San Francisco 49ers should be higher. The Kansas City Chiefs should be lower based on their talent. They have Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey and aging Travis Kelsey at that. What else do they have? They have Xavier Worthy who's a massive question mark. Who knows if he'll end up panning out? He'll be either really good or really bad. You have Marquis Brown, fine, good number two receiver. You have Rishi Rice so far as proven to be a number two receiver and Travis Kelsey a number one but the older he gets how who knows how much longer it'll last of him being at playing at such a high level and an offensive line that's okay. I praise it because they keep Patrick Mahomes on his feet but I don't dispute the fact that they are a heavily penalized unit and a defense that is there's no two ways about it elite. So yeah this team is a very good team and with any other elite quarterback they would be maybe top five. They're number two out of respect for Patrick Mahomes because he's going to take them to, he's going to take them to heights that we never would have thought this team would go just like he has in the last couple of years. With that being said my number one and they've earned it this off, they've earned it this off season and this past season by overplaying their expectations, the Houston Texans. CJ Stroud had one of the best rookie seasons of any quarterback of all time. A position that by nature is very hard to be good at in your first year in the league. So how is he going to be with an improved roster in his second year of development and oh by the way playing a full season. God forbid he barring any sort of health, any health issue. He didn't miss a few games last year but this is a guy who, I mean the sky is the limit for this kid in CJ Stroud. You've got Nico Collins, you have Tank Dell, you've got Stefan Diggs now, you have Dalton Schultz, you have an offensive line that's among the best young lines in the league. So what's going to stop you? It's all up to CJ Stroud and this young team. I think what this team has a high chance of getting the number one seed but I would not be surprised if they get knocked out sometime in the playoffs by the Kansas City Chiefs of the Cincinnati Bengals because they're just that one team that yes they have all the talent in the world. The future is bright but they're too young and they need more, they need a little bit more experience. They're not just, they're not quite there yet. Talent wise they're there, they need to get their hands a little dirty and then maybe a couple years down the road we'll see the Houston Texans as world champions. But that's my number, that's my, that's kind of my list. Remember the way I, also the way we, the way we rank how these teams go, yes it's how good they're going to be but it's does not mean number one is going to be the Super Bowl champion. Right? So the, I have the Houston Texans at number one, I don't necessarily have the confidence in them to win it all. The Chiefs I think they can do that because they have a quarterback who's a cyborg. The Cincinnati Bengals have some experience. I even think that Green Bay Packers, they have a lot of question marks but Jordan Love, the way he was able to do more with less. Again, they don't have a number one right now. And then offensive line that was just middle of the pack. I found it very impressive the way Love played. I get all the arguments about, about Jordan Love, small sample size. He hasn't quite proven it yet. What we saw so far was incredible. 30 touchdown passes in your first season starting with a roster that wasn't all that good. If you gave Justin Fields this roster and he started playing bad, people would be making excuses for Justin Fields saying this roster is bad. So I think it's, doesn't that, doesn't that put things into perspective for the, for the Chicago Bears and some of their in-cell fans? Oh yeah. If you're new, if you're not new to this show, you already know how we feel about not bears fans but the field's a whiners there. If you're not, if you're not, if you are new to the show, then we've been, listen, Justin Fields is a good kid and he has some incredible physical abilities. Problem is, the potential is there. The problem has been that the kid just can't play quarterback. Even the Steelers are thinking of using them in special teams. And the Bears agreed with us and they said, we're going to draft Caleb Williams and we're, we're moving on from Fields. Bears fans don't like that. Justin Fields was a fan favorite, understandably so, but he was not a franchise quarterback. And some, some posts that we put out on our Instagram did not get the best reception from the Bears fan base. We'll just say that much. Um, all right. So there you have it. Both of our top 10 teams going into the 2024 NFL season. We're going to move on. Next, we are going to talk about Toa Tonga Valoa and Jordan Love being signed to massive contract extensions. They're just a couple of many in a trend where the quarterback market is going up as far as contracts go. And it's not exactly good for the future of the league as far as the market goes financially. And for being able to afford contracts on other positions, that'll be next. This is the Fumbleruski podcast. It may not have always showed it in the statute, but you can see him making throws when he needs to make the throws back to back games where he has three touchdowns. Someone's got to get that six or seven spot. He's an elite wide receiver as a rookie. Truly a loose, loose scenario for both designs. Welcome back to the Fumbleruski podcast by power 88 and secret weapon consulting. I'm Adam Wright with CJ Madeeros. So now that we are on, we have moved on from division previews, we are now covering some of the more, um, present day events, things that are happening right now, covering the actual news. Um, because let's face it, nothing happens during the summer time. So we give you guys some stuff to sort of preview the upcoming season. Now that it's literally this week, where the Hall of Fame game starts, we're going to touch on a couple of current stuff like is to a Tungavai Loa and the exact numbers on his contract, um, four years, 212.4 million dollars, 167 million guaranteed. And for Jordan Love, it is four years, 220 million. So he got even more. And listen, Jordan Love had a great season. And you guys heard what I just said about Love last segment. I do believe that it's a tough situation because how are you going to, you can't not pay this kid. He is about to, he's going to be a free agent soon because believe it or not, he sat three years and then he had his first full season this year. So now he is going into his fifth season, where he is under his last year of Packers control. And the, the longer you wait, the more leverage Jordan Love has, because if he's, if he's not paid by you, he's going somewhere else, he's believe it. Jordan Love's demand is going to be very high from the rest of the league, a lot of quarterback, hungry teams who would love Jordan Love. So I kind of, I, I err on the side of agreeing with this contract because you, the, I mean, the Packers have no choice. Their hands were tied. If they didn't give them this, then you lose your franchise quarterback. Now the fact that they had to give them, I'm not saying it's a good thing that they gave it to them because yes, you have your, you have your guy for the next four years, actually five, because you still have this season, you have your guy for the next five years, but now you're going to be having some trouble adding to the roster around them, where you already did with the two guys pro, with the two guys prior, you managed to figure it out to an extent. I mean, you won two Super Bowls during that time, but out of 40 seasons. So think about that for a second. I mean, I, I'm not saying I, I kind of agree with the contract. I, I gotta say, I, I agree with the contract. This is like, this is like that scene from the Joker where he's, where he's on the game. He's on the, uh, tonight's show and he's saying, you're serious. You think that's funny. I'm like, I'm tired of saying that it pretending it's not. It's, it's, it was the right move to make. There's no two ways about it. They had to do it. They weren't going to just say, well, what are you going to do to Jordan love? Are you going to say, well, you haven't proven it yet. It was only one year. Do you think love is going to take that well or do you think he's just going to go and say, Hey, um, teams around the league, they won't pay me. Do you want to pay me? That's going to be the way it goes. They were tied down. It's not a good contract. I'm not trying to say that. I'm saying they had no choice, no choice. CJ your thoughts. When it comes to Jordan love's contracts, Adam, I do agree. I don't like it. I mean, look, Jordan love he needed a new deal, but they made him like one of, if not the highest paid quarterback in NFL history. I mean, he could be worth it. Once again, that is the, uh, contractual equivalent of a lottery ticket. I mean, maybe it'll work, but oh my God, if it turns out he's a one year wonder that GM Gooden Koon store, whatever his name is, is going to have his head paraded around a spike in the city of Green Bay. But that, that's not why we're here. Uh, I do agree that they had no choice. And that's just where the quarterback market is. And this is something that I have said numerous other episodes. When you have a quarterback who can even be fringe top 10 bare minimum, you're giving him 180 mil. That's just the way the market is. And it seemed, you know, like that he, I mean, it seemed like he was going to hold out. I mean, he was not going to practice until he got a deal. And if you're an executive, you probably shouldn't roll the dice on just saying, well, I hope he plays, you know what I mean? Because that's the last thing you want is to try to call a quarterback's bluff. And then it turns out, ah, crap, they are not bluffing. And then next thing you know, is your season goes down the drain and you evolve leverage. And there's another thing too. What happened before Jordan loves contract? Toa got his extension, which I'll touch on in a second. So when Toa got his deal, although any leverage you might have had got significantly diminished, not to mention that if you want to take a track down south to Arlington, Texas with the Dallas Cowboys, uh, whoa, Dak needs a contract as well. And it's literally a, like a don't blink first kind of thing, if that makes sense. It's definitely a you had to sign that guy, otherwise you're the odd man out, meaning that you're going to have to give out a even, probably an even bigger contract. Let's be real. And at this point, it was literally just a race against time because if you were the last guy to not, if you're last team, why is the last guy in the last GM who did not sign your quarterback? You no longer have leverage. And this one of those case, we have to bite the bullet. However, you did bring up a good point about now. Once the contract kicks in next season, you're in a bit of a cap crunch because you have a lot of good players on the defensive side of the ball. Like for example, you've just signed Xavier McKinney, you have Jair Alexander, they just extended Kenny Clark. You've got Quay Walker as well at linebacker, Ed Druscher, Rashawn Gary. Those are good, but now one's love kicks in. I don't know how you're going to make it work, especially because your offense needs work. Look, you signed Josh Jacobs. You swapped him out for Aaron Jones. Good job. I applaud you. But who are your receivers? Jaden Reed. Ooh, Christian Watson, Romeo Dobbs. I'm, oh, shiver me timbers, scary. Like, look, that's no disrespect to them, but, and I like the ball, but one of them ought to be the guy because while I respect their game, I don't feel comfortable mentioning them in the same breath as the Justin Jefferson's and the CD lambs and the Tyree kills of the world. To be fair, you don't need the CD lambs, Justin Jefferson. No, I know you don't, but even still, I mean, we've had this conversation before. It's all about, you know, your iukes and your Higgins's and your waddles, but even still, I wouldn't even know if I'd put them on that tier if I'm being honest. So I feel like one of them has to step up and honestly, I think one of them will. However, you put yourself in a precarious position that if they do not step up, then one is going to have no weapons because you broke the bank and then, oh, and then there's Toa. He even got in the words of a wise man named Adam Wright, he got paid a lot of money to just under throw Tyree kill. You saw that? Yeah, I saw that. It was funny, but, but yeah, that's the thing. It's like Toa, I don't know. He's one of those guys where it's becoming blatantly obvious. So you know how Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady can carry subpar weapons? For Toa, it's the inverse where it's blatantly obvious that even though he's the quarterback, he is being carried by elite weapons. And it's not like a Josh Allen, where you get him a wide receiver one to help him develop. For Toa, it's not a developmental piece, it's a crutch. And we have seen that when you take his crutch away, it's not pretty. When Hill is not playing, Toa does not play well. So there's an excuse. And my point is you have a lot of guys with massive contracts. I mean, you just lost Christian Wilkins on the defense. And by the way, the offensive line got worse. The offensive line got worse. I don't know how that was possible, but you did. And when you look at Toa, whose head, his brain rattled around, perhaps one too many times, that is very, very concerning. And this is just a bigger indictment of the quarterback market overall. Just because like I said, we have a guy that's French top hanger, I have to give him so much of money. And I don't know what happens, but it just seems like as soon as somebody becomes remotely decent, your team loses all leverage. But Adam, you're going to say something? Yeah. So look at the, the market has gotten so bad that the bills and chiefs are getting praise for their court, for their contracts to Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes, which yeah, it looks a lot better than what they have. But that doesn't mean their contracts are good. I think people, people always look at it relative to the rest of the league. And the rest of the league is bad. It's worse. Don't get me wrong. But that doesn't mean that Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes have team team friendly deals. Let's not pretend that because they don't. They've had to let go of a lot, both teams have had to let go of a lot of talent and have had to bend over backwards just to keep the little that they have had left around their star quarterbacks. So that's a little scary that we are looking at the chiefs and bills and actually praising them for those deals because those are not those are not good deals. That doesn't make their deals good. It just makes them better than the others. It's relative because, I mean, why do you think the chiefs have had to cheap out at the wide receiver position in recent years? The best acquisitions that they have made via free agency or trade has been Juju Smith, Schuster and Marquis Brown. Those were the best guys that they've gotten. They were barely even in the market for DeAndre Hopkins when he was a free agent. He was laid out to, he was handed out on a silver platter to the chief saying, "Oh, you guys just lost Tyree Kill. Here's your replacement for a couple of years." And they didn't take it. What does that tell you about their contract to Patrick Mahomes? Or how about Legeria Sneed and Chris Jones? They were barely able to keep Chris Jones. Yes, Sneed's gone. And Sneed is gone. And Travis Kelsey, God bless him. The guy has figured it out. He's taken a... But they just don't have... The talent that they have should not be enough, but it is. They're lucky because they have the best quarterback in the game and one of the best of all time. The bills haven't been so lucky, have they? No. I haven't even mentioned them yet. They've... They had it even worse. They lost most of their key players on defense. Just in one offseason. And they traded a waste of on digs. Oh, and Adam just supports more salt in the wound. Not only do they lose their wide receiver one, they lost their wide receiver two in free agency in Gabe Davis. Yeah. So they brought in... They did bring in Curtis Samuel. And they brought it... Yeah. And they still have Khalil Shakir. They drafted you. And they did draft Keon Coleman. One of those guys can step up and be a number one. Maybe. Or they're saying... Not Curtis Samuel, but Keon Coleman, maybe Khalil Shakir turns into something. But they better hope that one of them does. Or that Josh Allen can make something out of nothing. Because if they don't, with the current contract that Josh Allen has, it's going to be hard for them to just pay through their teeth for one of these premier wide receivers. And it's true. I just... The thing is, though, I mean, I was hearing... So when I was reading comments on posts about the Jordan Love and two of contracts, or was I look at my home such a good guy, the chiefs aren't paying him anything. It's like, are we forgetting that Patrick Mahomes was also the highest paid quarterback in history at one point? Wasn't his deal worth like 500 million? Or something like weird like that? Yeah. And they're like, "Oh, look at him. His deal is cheap." Yeah, compared to them. But let me ask you something. What do you think is going to happen when Mahomes deal is up? And... Oh, yeah, Keon Coleman said he's going to be seven layers of screwed. When his deal is up? Oh, yeah, Mahomes. Deal is mean like a decade from now? Oh, yeah, yeah. It was 10 years. I forgot. I was confusing it with someone else. Sorry. I was talking about Allen. Because someone said, "Oh, Allen is going to take a pay cut." Spoiler alert, no, he's not. And the only reason that Mahomes' five million dollar deal works goes because he's only making 50 million a year. But that's including incentives. When you have other people that are making like 55 mil plus guaranteed. And honestly, the question is no longer, how do you build, in my opinion, the question is not even how you build a team around these big contracts. We have to look beyond that. We have to think bigger. The question for me at least now becomes, how the hell do you fix the market? That's literally what it has to be because there is no world where to a tug of Ayloa and Trevor Lawrence should be in the top five highest paid quarterbacks. Maybe Jordan Love if he could prove himself. I mean, that's more of a lottery ticket. It's better than the two would deal, but still there should be no world where the quarterbacks who are, like I said, fringe top 10 have this much leverage. Look, I mean, they had to trade away Tyree Kill and then they compensated for it by adding Juju Smith, Schuster, one year for only one year, by the way, and Marquis Brown. So I'd, but I would rather be the chiefs than the, than the dolphins because they've paid through the teeth for Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle. And they're stuck with an average quarterback with the chiefs. They have the one and the best of all time they're overpaying. And he's making more with less. He's doing more with less with the average targets that he has. MVS, Rashie Rice, even Caderius Tony, he did something for a few seconds with. I'd rather, that being said, I would rather have the quarterback than the, than the wide receiver, but don't overpay for an average quarterback. I mean, they just overpaid for, for Tua when they probably shouldn't have. And I think there's, for that reason, there's going to be, there is going to be a massive collapse in the market in the same way that we saw a collapse with the, with the running back position, where teams just decided we're not paying you. In the same way that teams are, I predict are going to do the same thing with a wide receiver position. They're going to look at the wide receiver, the wide receiver contracts that are about to be up and say, what are you going to do if we pay you? If you're just going to flirt with 2000 yards every year while we miss the playoffs and suffer, we're not interested in that. Patrick Mahomes is winning them Super Bowls. That contract's worth it. What are you doing, Tyree Kill? I think that's what's going to happen. And I think we're, we're going to see that with the quarterback position where teams are going to look at the Tua's of the world and the Trevor's of the world and say, what are you going to do? If you're just going to barely make the playoffs for us and not do anything more, why would we pay you? Teams have to start thinking about that. Think about themselves. Stand up for yourselves. In the same way the organization, the players make the organizations, the organizations make the players. Without the organizations, the players are nothing. So it's a mutual, it's a mutual deal. It is a mutual thing. So just think about that for a second. But that's all kind of I have on the matter. Do you have any other talking points to add to this? Now, once again, like I usually damn a proponent of the free market, but like the owners or GMs like got to get together and say, no, we got to start dropping prices here because this is going to kill you because only when you have a guy like Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady and even still Brady was never the highest pay to pay cuts, unless you have like the best quarterback in the league, you're not going to win because also you have something like literally like them can will your team to win. I mean, you don't just stand like because all these guys are not getting it done. Right. Like you need to, if you're going to pay an elite quarterback, at least make sure that he's a guy who doesn't need like absolutely need those targets, we're going to find out for sure if the bills can survive without Stefan Diggs because that's all Josh Allen has had during his days of being elite. So we're going to find out, but with Patrick Mahomes, we knew with Tom Brady, we knew. And even Aaron Rodgers was able to take a guy like Devonta Adams and work with him for a few years and he eventually became a top target. Same thing with Jordan Love with Jordan Nelson. Holy crap. That was a butcher with Jordan Nelson over a few seasons. He was terrible, but then it just clicked. And maybe that happens with Jordan Love because Love does look like a really good quarterback right now, but we'll see how good. I think we know with two of them. I do think we know. And I think the dolphins were kind of tied, had their hands tied behind their backs. But if I were the dolphins, I probably would have just let them go. But that would have, I don't know, everyone loved everyone on the team loves to us. So it would have turned the front off. It would have turned the players against the front office. So it's a tough situation. But either way, I disagree with the two a deal. I agree with the love deal. That'll be my final verdict. All right. Any other thoughts before we end the show tonight? No. All right. Well, we are officially at the start of the league season. As far as games go, the Hall of Fame game coming up. Texans at Bears. That's going to be a fun one. But that'll do it for us tonight. Thank you for listening to us. We have new episodes out on Tuesdays at 730 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel. We also have all our episodes available on spot our Instagram @FumbleRuskey_podcast to keep up with our podcast that labels coverage on the NFL. Otherwise, we'll see you next week over and out.