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Mint Mobile have got actually, and I have got Keith, because actually lives in these states where the cop America is having, and Keith, the car is a South American football connoisseur, as he's looking to call, he doesn't need to be called anything else but a connoisseur, so that's what I'm going to call him. So, I woke up this morning to see that Colombia had beaten Uruguay by one gold, of their golds, and none of the other golds, and Colombia had a man sent off, but it was all over shadow but with newness, climbing into the stands to fight all of Colombia, and I see reactions like Jesus Christ, this girl is a brain donor, sell him as quick as you can, other people were like, no, hold on, his family were in there, other people were like, no, his family were on the pitch, another people were like, no, someone's man, I fell over and passed out, okay, maybe it's all right, so I'm going to ask you two people to fill me in, because I think he was no more about it than I do, and then people in the chat will obviously have their say and I read it as much as I can, and my example is sitting there, I was starting to listen in, he said, the Colombian fans were the aggressors, they were drunk and violent, none of the Uruguayan players should be pulling for defending their families, that's what she says, and no real security of the game, in all opinion, she was watching it in real time, Keith, I'll come to you first, and fortunately the final will be Argentina vs Colombia, is it the best possible final in the carpe? Yeah, I probably used, I stayed up to watch this last night, fell asleep, about 30 minutes in, fuck all that happened, and got up this morning to see the chaos, starting to see what happened, but I would have said the order going out to Argentina, the best teams in South America at the moment, will Colombia have been better in this tournament outside than the order going out? I think Colombia have been excellent, surprisingly enough, how may Israel treat against blast from the past as being brilliant, as well back in the years, and Louis Diaz has done his bets, you know, so it's a good final, I wish it was your order going, and what we're going to talk about, you know, what happens at the end of the game, and things like that, but rather, it's been your way of a look, Colombia is a good team, and there was Diaz, this dude, he's the main sort of attacking trick behind maybe Hamiz Rodriguez as an icon, but it was a game that, I'd say, yeah, the best teams got there in the end, but the madness that seemed like this game is, it's crazy, crazy to think of, I think Colombia played the whole second half with 10 men, you know, because millions got sent off, Crystal Palace, Fallback. Did he get off? Well, when you say you got sent off, was there like two yellows, one was a bit harsh, I was just seldom American, he kicked some of those. Two yellows. Two yellows. An argument, given that we got second yellows, I gave them all the injury time in the fourth half, you know, so that essentially played the whole second half, down to 10, but you've gone on a low path that stage, they've taken the lead, so look, it was, he'd say it's a battle and performance then boy Colombia to get there, boy hook up, we're croaking on the main you get there and you're in the final and it's a big deal, it's something that I think maybe in Europe and actually more you'd say it differently over or so he did a world, but I don't think the copy gets enough respect. You know, people look at it, they go on with the World Cup is the pinnacle of international football and then the euro seems to have the next and everything else is just filler after that. They seem to give more weight and more gravitas to the auros, you know, Ronaldo winning the auros for Portugal and then Messi winning and that's only the copper America, do you know what I mean? So, I think the copper gets an unfair, along with the Afghan as well and both in saying all that, the Asia games. And it's funny because when the World Cup's come around, I think the two teams that everyone looks for is Argentina, Brazil, every time a World Cup comes around, it's like, you know, Brazil are amazing, Argentina are amazing. Who's the next big player that's coming out of there that we're going to see, it's not so much now because the world sees everything instantaneously, but years gone, boy, I remember like even going back to the likes of the 1990 World Cup and you're thinking, I'm thinking Claudio Canigier, you know, players like that and you're kind of going, this canigier and a long, dirty, bland hair running around the gaff like, you know what I mean? And I was remember the 1998 World Cup because the Nielsen, I don't know whether he'd done it. I think he'd move the year before or had he or he was on the verge of moving to a real record. Yeah. Record fake came out with nowhere because he wasn't one of the big names. Yeah. But look, it's a final that, you know, it's, you know, if you're an organizer, it's too massive to him. And, you know, the hammers, whatever you guys do, it's the thing on one side, you obviously have the messy, you know, thing on the other side and a couple of others are Argentina that probably come in near the end, but we want another copper. Actually, my biggest regret in all this is that I didn't watch this game on TSN because I can, as much as literally watching TSN come, our Americans coming to an American soccer or football. This might be my second favorite thing, like the commentary on this on TSN I think would have been fantastic. What's gone on is a bit mental, but like genuine, like, you know, the signs that would have been coming out. Well, that noon, as it's from a kill people, but what's the reaction being over there overall as a, is it being like, are you worried about the, are you worried about the World Cup? I mean, two years' time and security, do they feel like the USA hosts this tournament is being tarnished because it is already just going to look on past that and go look, it's the final, it's Argentina, Colombia, that's what I'm looking forward to, ignore all that last night, we're on to the final. Yeah, I mean, I've seen a few things, mostly when I've seen this, I've, I've seen Darwin Nunes being targeted as kind of this unruly player. There's been less about the security and more about basically, Uruguayan, Uruguayan players coming into a brawl after, you know, and, and them attacking the Colombian fans and there's very little context in a lot of the articles that I've read over here where it's, it's much more like, oh, yay, fight and less about, I mean, some of them don't even mention the fact that there were, you know, Uruguayan family members or anything like that happening. And obviously that's dependent on the publication that you're looking at, but a lot of them aren't going to do the deep digging into it and they're not going to want to bring publicity to it right now. But I do think it's something that they have to consider. I mean, it's clearly a wake up call, it's something that we were talking about in the telegram chat this morning, the US has a very kind of specific way of policing stadiums and we don't really have, like, a way sections, for example, and a lot of the police activity is very much like point of entry. So there's, there's so much police activity, like, right outside of a stadium and to get into a stadium is very much like going through airport security. And then they have security, like, in concourse areas, but they don't have the same kind of police presence in the stand. And I think what was really striking for me, and I think Matt mentioned it as well, was in our stadiums, typically there's never, like, any sort of famous people that are sitting in that kind of fan area, like they're either in hospitality that it has its own separate entrance and everything, or they're, like, courtside or whatever the other person that is. Yeah. They're not in a group of fans, and that was very shocking. So whoever marketed those tickets to those players' families made a huge error of judgment. But there's also something to be learned about, like, how to police a stadium in terms of away fans, because I think what I read was that was, I think there was like 70,000 fans. It was 90% Columbia fans that were in that stadium. And to have, like, high profile family members just sitting in the middle of that was always going to bring trouble. Um, so yeah, they definitely need to learn from that. But yeah, I haven't seen a ton on my side of the pond about, like, security issues yet. I'm sure it'll be brought up, but right now, the fingers being pointed squarely kind of at Darwin Nunez, which I don't think I think the security stuff will be harsh, well, they will be swept on that car. But because to me, they, the cop is sorry for voting in there, guys. The cop has not been a great tournament organizational voice. I think it's been natural for a long time. I've seen people giving out about the, um, I've seen people giving out about the, the size of the pitches. Yeah, the quality of the pitch has been a big problem. Yeah. The quality and so is like, they've had that made the pitch smaller because they couldn't put regulation pitches on all of them. Then we had Matt done a show last week and Matt will start the saying maybe it's the use and smaller stadiums for the carpet that won't get World Cup games, do you know what I mean? So when it comes to the World Cup, you'll have the big ones. Why are the big ones actually in America that it's the role quality and the, yeah, like, they're doing more across the country. So for one reason or another, a lot of these stadiums that they're using are like in California, in Texas. Um, there's the one in New York they've been using for the stadium, but they really haven't been spreading out. So I know in the World Cup, they're going to be a lot more spread out. Like I know Gillette Stadium, um, where the Patriots play, I don't even know if it's Gillette Stadium anymore, um, that's going to be used, um, and definitely they're going to use more of like the NFL style stadiums rather than, I think right now they're doing sort of the MLS or the multi-use stadiums. Yeah. It's the NFL ones, not where they're having the issues with the size of pitches. No. But the NFL ones have you which like it can make them. Yeah. Like last night was a multi-use, um, I know that there is an NFL team that plays there, but it was like a multi-use thing. Some of them, like the, the one in Kansas is like a really small pitch, I believe. So I don't know. It's definitely something they have to work out. So the NFL pitchers that are going to use in the likes of was the 80, 80 and T where the Cowboys play, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So I think, um, they're talking, I think, so I think if they can be, they can be built now, can't they? The likes of Atlanta and all the week, they're built for that the Dallas is built for they can play soccer. So you can in England with the sports stadium. So the pitches, the pitches, um, the pitches that weren't the right. So is, are these pitches that are used in the MLS or stadiums that are used in the, I don't know what the deal is with them, but they, they had to make all the other pitches in loin with the smaller ones. Apparently. Ah, okay. Right. So because they made a mess somewhere and they've just called a hounder, the boy just making that mess in all the grounds, the problem is a smaller pitch in this stadium, but you can't have a blade and a monster pitch over here. Do you all have to be uniform? Yeah. Yeah. You join in with this model. I can't say it's there. The problem with the NFL grounds, it will be getting the grass right because apparently they were just rolling pitches on top of, of the NFL ones and going, there you go. Um, but yeah, and look, with all the technology they have out there nowadays and the advancements in, in, in pitches and stuff, surely they can, they can find what it's going to be. There's a 48 teams in the next woke up or some ridiculous. Um, people of the mill stairs saying there is the NFL stadium start too small. There you go. Oh, it's hard. It was the NFL stadium start too small. I don't think you are void enough. Um, but look, that's, that's another issue. Um, how much footage have you seen of what's going on last night? Because I'm going to be honest with you, I've seen, I've seen various clips, still frames, you know, um, Darwin has seen his family or family members of teammates in trouble, grew up into the stand to try help, blah, blah, blah, blah. People are like, no, his family were on the pitch. They were safe and sound. I've seen a picture of them then holding, I think it's a son or a daughter. Um, and he's going to hold them, you know, holding the toilet in the middle of the pitch. Like, can we start off and say Darwin is a fucking idiot on a cabbage? I mean, Louis Darwin, newness, Darwin, newness does not help himself. No, he's going to get banned, but he's going to get slaughtered. How many of them are going to get, this is the thing, right? How many of them are going to get banned? Like Darwin, newness isn't the, I'm presuming Darwin, newness isn't the only your going player up in the stand. Am I right? There was like four of them that were named. It was new. Maxia Rocco. Yeah. Valverde, Jimenez. Those are the four that I have listed, but there were more than that. Yeah. Right. So these four guys leave the, so I leave the pitch after the game, climb up, because they didn't have to climb up something together. Yeah. The scale of all, they go up over the barrier and they end up in the middle of what seemed like Columbians and Euroguines and there was a gap between them and they go straight into the middle of the gap and they're having a go, right? That's not up for them. Kevin Sullivan says the interview he saw said that there was four of players went into the stands, right? That's not in there. And yes. Right. Pardon me, says you have to trust what's going on security. Well, it's kind of the trust we don't know, but part, but party has to trust the fact that if something happens, there's enough security in that area or we're in the concourse or we're in the stadium to get there and look after something I did hear one of the, one of the players motors passed out or something like that and then you're seeing Darwin is going to troubleshare and all sorts of stuff, but I agree with you. I think it's a fucking stupid thing to do, but part of me would think, well, if my family were up there, I'd be up that one as well, you know, I'd be all in, I won't be asking any questions. But out of everything we've seen, are we looking at four of your growing players getting hefty bonds for going into that ground or going into that stand? Is that what we're looking at? We think so. It also depends on which footage you're looking at. Yeah. Like some of the footage clearly shows like the Colombian fans throwing things at the Uruguayan families or groups of like supporters. And then there's other footage that makes it look like Darwin Nunes is single handedly like racing up to fight everybody. So it really just depends on what you're looking at. I mean, it doesn't look great when he grabs the chair and slings it against the wall and the advertising hoardings and has to be held back by like 30 people. But he's lucky that that gets intercepted, isn't it, that when he's developed some security fella gets his hand on that chair so he can't throw it because that that's worse. Went into the fans. We'd be having a very, very serious band conversation. Like six months plus. Yeah. So a couple of comments on it, right? Because like I said, I see in different clips and I, at times it's impossible because sometimes you're not going to look at it because I think I've seen that clip already. I'm not looking at it again. It could be something different, but you know, so a couple of bits on it. Kev says players asked the fans to stop because there were kids and families in there. When they didn't, then the players got into it. There was little to no security, right? Let me see. Let me see. It says there was footage of some of the family and kids getting taken into the soil to the pitch and the stance. So clearly was an issue, but then, but may not be much footage of that soil of it before the brawl. Okay. And Robin McGuire says what you were saying, security guard, knock at the chair of Nune and his hand. If he hit the supporter, there could have been a pitch invasion and Nune as we are overreacted for sure. I don't reckon Darwin was only, was only protecting his family. He was also thinking of team-made family as well as the skills of Pete. People of the men who says the fans started throwing stuff at them while they were still on the pitch. And this was well after the end of the game. Bro integers, you can't be doing that as a professional footballer. You have to keep your head. Then again, for some of those players, apparently it was personal. Trilla from Manila says expect a lengthy ban from Nune as that's, that's what he, that happens in records, a super diesel says to spend the sentence in your honor. And 90% of the standards are from Colombia. What sort of brawl will be looking at if your boy had won? Yeah, it's a fair point. Diaz and Darwin had an amazing embrace and in the background Lewis was still, Lewis was still scuffling. I'm presuming that was Suarez. Reports that the mum of your guardian was even taken to the hospital and have circulated and you can see many of the family members including their like velvety's mum, who he quickly ran to get to her. So look, Jose Maria Jimenez confirmed these claims, this actually you've put that in, confirmed these claims and said that police were nowhere to be found and they appeared almost half an hour later after I found avalanche their families. Just a very cool interview where Jose Jimenez, they interview like those. It was brave of him to come out and say all that. And keep saying and it doesn't even look like all these are probably going to come off. Can I ask you a few ones like Maria Jimenez? He's at let come at red center back, he's the captain of Uruguay I think, he's the captain. Oh, okay. Yeah, okay. Oh, I know who he is. I know him. It's just when you're starting on Jose Maria Jimenez. So he's, he's doing an interview at the end of the match and he's very emotional and he's, he's saying that he's, he said, he's probably going to cut this off or I'm going to say this is a disaster and all those, no police, there's no security. It's a disaster. It's a disaster. You know. A lot of, I don't think it was a very sort of golden brave thing to come out. Say, oh, you think you just have to see, he was, they were there, they got the sense of what was going on. It didn't come across like a scorpion, I just got beat and then it's sour grapes. It just saw a bandy, the bell were earlier, sour grapes, all this sort of showy. But I don't think it was any of that. I think it was a genuine, a genuine case that they were sort of concerned and they went in and told my people, um, midnight hoaxers, only a carrot wouldn't defend his family. Um, them lads were like carrots. No, it's, it's, I get, I get where, um, I get where you're coming from with that, right? Um, but the, but the problem is I'm will always be, if you're a footballer and you leave the pitch and enter the, the stands, right, in an aggressive way, you're opening yourself up for all sorts. Like if, if, if Darwin even gets in there and doesn't swing any digs, get in there and just throws a few shapes and makes himself look like he's about to kill somebody. He could get a band. He's left to feel the play. It's, look, it's the same as somebody, let me put it this way. If Keith is at the game last night, right, at the size, he doesn't like pick a player, right? Pick any player. He jumps out of the stand, runs onto the pitch and starts having a blade fully where somebody from Columbia or something from your boy, he can fully accept to be arrested, right? And baby band from football grounds for, for the rest of his life possibly. So a player leaving that, and I get all the thing about, sorry, I get all the thing about, you know, protecting the families and, and getting in there and people are saying, no, I was families on the pitch. I don't think I'm mad, I think, I think once one of them are girls, I think they'll all, a few of them will go anyway, because Jesus Christ, like if I'm saying that, I'm thinking to myself, right, he's gone in, if that doesn't work out well for him, he's in serious danger in there, I have to go in with him, you know, in a sort of way. But going back to security, like if you look, we were talking with the euros on the carpet and thing, if you look at the euros, right, the families and guests of all the players are always in the main stand in the stadiums, in the central part of it, about two towards up the stand, in areas where nobody else is getting in, and that's where I pull, end the story. So for, so for those Colombian, or those that you're going, supporters who are family or friends or whatever, of those you're going players, and indeed possibly you, Columbia, Columbia's family and friends were in there, but it's 90% Colombian, like I was saying, it's a fast, it's an absolute fast, and the thing you said at the start, this would be rushed under the car, it belongs to security thing, it can't be, it's the biggest, it's the biggest event in sport, is the World Cup football, it's the biggest, I think it's the biggest, I don't think the Olympics even comes closer, the biggest spectacle in sport is the World Cup, end the story, right. So to have that sort of thing happen, how big was the stadium? It was 70,000 people there last year. So it would be a big, it would be a big venue at your World Cup, it's probably going to be a venue for the World Cup, I presume, and you're there looking gone, listen, this broke out, and families of players were in danger, and very, very big danger because your security was so lax, there'd be an awful lot of people being asked an awful lot of questions this morning, especially FIFA will be asking questions this morning, and if you think about it, football associations are going to start asking questions, can we go to the World Cup, can we guarantee that our delegates or our family or our friends can go and be kept safe, and that's not me defending, you're going players jumping into the crowd, I understand it to a point, you know, I agree with it to a point, because if I talk to my family or indeed one of me mates have gone in there to help their family and could be left on their own, I'd probably go in with them, I understand that bit, but another part of me says, yeah, but lads, you know, you have to coin, you have to let the people that are meant to be doing that job, do that job, you know, start the way, but some of the parts are saying, the people weren't there to do that job, so there's an awful lot of angles that this is going to come from, and actually, I'll let you go for us and let's not come to keep, you know, we've seen things like, I think Eric Dora jumped into the stand, didn't he? Because someone was like, no, we just ran up, it was quite impressive getting over the chairs, I remember that time, it was really good, it was Colin Jackson in the 1992 Olympics, look him up, and he got a far game, and you know, you've seen things like this happen, but actually, it's sort of danger here that these foil goers get six months out of football. My dad works in B2B marketing, he came by my school for career day and said he was a big row as man, then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friends still laughing at me to this day. Not everyone gets B2B, but with LinkedIn, you'll be able to reach people who do, get $100 credit on your next ad campaign, go to linkedin.com/results to claim your credit, that's linkedin.com/results, terms and conditions apply, linkedin, the place to be, to be. Now, with nitrogen infused cushioning for lightweight, supreme softness that feels good every step, every street, every single day. 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I think it's going to be more than what Dyer got. I mean, it doesn't, I was looking at the FIFA website in terms of like misconduct and stuff, and it really doesn't matter if the offense was committed on the field or off the field. Their code of conduct, it even covers what they do on social media. So it doesn't matter if they were in the stands. I mean, any sort of assault is a three match ban that doesn't need to be a player. That can be anyone. I mean, it goes up to 15 matches for assaulting a match official. And I think that's kind of the end of that's as far as they go in terms of number of matches. So that would probably be the most extreme case. I don't know. I would say somewhere between four and 10 would be my guess. And it would be worldwide. It would be across all competitions because it's a FIFA like common ball is under the umbrella. So I know you were saying four and 10 game ban, right? But it wouldn't like Keith could be more of a thing where it's not a game ban. It's a toy and ban. And the air content. I told you the store. Well, they were swear. It's got six months, didn't he from all football? Well, yeah, he wasn't even allowed in stadiums. Yeah, it's hard to tell because, you know, does not really a precedent. You know, the Eric Doyle one. It wasn't as probably violent as this one. Do you know what I mean? The air content album, when he goes in and kicks your man has a scrap room, he got slaughtered for that. But that's two years ago. You got more in months. Yeah, he got no more plan. That's what it is. And if you think of it, like the only comparable thing that's maybe not even horrible is the malice at the palace in the NBA with the Detroit Pistons and the Indiana Pacers. When the Pacers players run into the crowd and start lettering fans and those who played mortar at that looks of run our test and all got a season ban. That was 86 games. That's an 86 game ban. But that's the NBA. We have games all the time. We don't know. It's hard to genuinely don't know what I want to get because I think you can rush into a punishment without the facts. And we're Liverpool fans, right? And we're looking at this from a spectrum of Darwin newness. And while looking to find the positives in it, you know what I mean? Like any person who's going to defend this family and things like that. I don't know how, you know, the powers that bear on the look at that. Do you know what I mean? Are you going to look at? Well, we don't give a shit about that. It looks bad. It's all about optics. Do you know what I mean? And the optics of no security will nobody really cares about that. Put the optics of players in and Darwin newness. The reason why you call them in absolute fucking ages, the chair thing that could have been worse. And the fact that he's absolutely scaling the wall, the wall he jumps up to get into the scrap is huge. And he's straight to the front. Do you know what I mean? He's in the front and center of the whole thing. And he's six foot three, a six foot two, whatever he is covered in tattoos, jersey off. And he's just a poster boy for us. I think he's going to get hammered. I think he's going to get hit with more than 10. That's what he's going to be made an example of. So, um, Kev has asked this question. There's supposed to be playing Canada at the weekend. Now if they let him play that at the weekend, did you have to get this band done and in before the weekend? It's a hard one, isn't it? You see, that's what I've heard. Like, I mean, I've heard them trying to get things figured out by this weekend. You see, the biggest, the biggest thing for me in this is, is the chair. Like, fair enough, you run up, you run up and you have, you know, literally like fucking spoiled. I'm I'm running up a fucking wall, right? Trying to get into the stand. Right. Fair enough. You're going in for whatever reason I'm going in for. He's more than aggressive when he gets in there. There's four of them dealing, right? There's four of them dealing it. The four of them will have their say on it. I presume and I presume they'll have some sort of hearing where they all turn around and go, listen, we lost the game, but we see in family members in danger and we went in because there was clearly no security around and it's, you know, it's, you know, human, natural human instinct to protect the people you love, all this sort of thing, right? That's fine. The problem for there, I was known as is he's rocking around the soil I'm going to chair. He's like something out of the WWE, like, you know what I mean? And he's like, it's not a table rather spoken chair much. What the fuck? Yeah. And only for like you said, Keith, I know there's in the chat said, if your man doesn't get a hand on that, that chair is going into that crowd. And it doesn't matter if it doesn't hear anyone. Now we are never in certain, right? Right? As a professional footballer. And I love down on this. I fucking love him. Right? I like, I so want them to just fucking hammer goals in political next season. Right? But that's where the issue's going to be. You can argue that you're going to protect people. You can argue that you're going up to look after people. You're, you know, you know, you can argue all that, but when you're rocking around in a chair with a chair, and you're trying to fucking fling it into into the stand, this is where this is where it gets very fucking hairy. And you know, someone said in the chat earlier, these, they feel these lads will get, they will get bands and then the USA Federation for ball federation or whatever to call themselves, they will get something. But that would be going the very host host and, you know, get it all the way because like, let's be honest about it. If you're organized that woke up for America, and that's happened in, in a game less than two years out, you know what I mean? I'm possibly one of the last chances for you to run events that is the last chance read if you don't want events that on that scale with that, I know the football fans from different countries in the stadium. And it doesn't look good. And it just doesn't look good. And what do we do? Actually, what do we do if we get a band deliver people have to deliver people have to look at cotton toys with their newness, do they have to look at making the soil in the for position? Because if you get six months, if you get six months off it, you're looking at February, January, January, January. There's a real, it's a case for Liverpool to say, you know what, we can't, this is, this we can't deal this. I mean, it's tough, like, there, because there's this extended extenuating circumstance of families, like, it's really hard to just paint him with the brush of, oh, he's just a hothead. Like he is, obviously, like, if you're grabbing a chair, like that could've been an incident of it in and of itself, like, you could just judge the chair incident and he'd probably still get a ban. Like, not even climbing the wall. The chair in no way is helping you protect your family. No, no. So that, I don't know, like, we all know that he is impulsive and is aggressive and we fuel him with this narrative. Like, I feel like the fans fuel him to almost be this character. And I'm not saying that we're in any way, like, at fault for him making these mistakes. But, like, at some point, I feel like his character needs to be it's assessed if nothing else. Like, I think he needs to sit down with some sort of sports psychologist and get this sorted out because we can't have him be, like, this kind of live wire that's always ready to go off in our team. And I'm all for, you know, I know that Shawnee loves this, like, like wild course kind of analogy. And I'm all for that and I'm not trying to tame him. But there does come a time where, like, you have to be able to pull yourself away from the precipice of, like, causing bodily damage. I mean, he doesn't have a horrible record. And I like, he has one red card for us in 65 appearances. Like, we think of him as this really hot headed guy. And I think we see a lot of that from the stands. Like, you know, when he's yelling from, like, the, the sidelines or when he's hopping over at, like, the hoarding is to get down. Like, it's almost like the off the pitch stuff is, is worse than what's on the pitch, which is interesting from a player perspective. I think a lot of times we're used to seeing the violence on the pitch. But I don't know, I like, I just think there's something with him where he could benefit just from like a psychological perspective. I don't, I doubt that slot wants to, like, throw him out as an option and just say, no, like, you're too hot headed for me. I mean, that would be a real shame if that was how you started your tenure as a new coach. Yeah, it's, you know, like, scales for pieces, you're a boy will walk away and refuse to play if their players are banned. The chair was trying to hardens. He was, what, taking a residual anger, prove his intent was to lunge into the crowd. Pete, look, I'm gonna be honest with you. When I see in that clip, I watched it and I honestly believe that the other guy doesn't get close to that chair. I think it is going into the, into the stand. That's my opinion, right? And like I said, I love the guy. I really like him. I think he's being dealt a very harsh kind of, he's being dealt a very harsh hand. I think over the last couple of months where he has missed chances and everyone's focused in on him, instead of looking at Liverpool, the defence, the midfield, the rest of the forward, and indeed the manager in the last two months of very season. And I think Darren Nunes has got most of the, most of the abuse. And I honestly believe that's because we've, we've turned into a fan base that loves the scapegoat over the last couple of years. And, you know, it'll be noon as now and it'll be someone else and three games in the next season. That's just how we seem to roll at the moment. And noise shops is a very counter. I got an oilman band. We'd be lucky to see Nunez before Christmas. The band, given that that time was from the FA, this, this, they'll come the ball may turn around and just, you know, say, look, we've had this, they were defending this for giving them suspended, you know, suspended bands or wherever it might be. But FIFA can overrule all this. And FIFA can come in and give them their own band. And that's where it could become, it could become a big issue, because FIFA will be a worldwide thing. Come the ball, could do something and say, you know what, you know, we're giving them bands and their bands in the next three, four, four, eight international games. It could be something that we don't know. Sleep before us, did you watch the game? Yes, did you go even watch the game? No, I watched the extended hoylots of the game. Today, he said Nunez was trash. But yeah, he probably didn't have a great game, but that happens, you know what I mean? But listen, I know what's happening with that when Nunez, right? I know what's happening with that when Nunez. People are absolutely fuming over the last, the end of last season. And they decided it's all down when Nunez has its fault. It couldn't be fought from the truth, in my opinion. And people that turned around to me and go, we would have won the league only for that when Nunez, you're talking earlier, all the absolute, yeah, that's my opinion. And if you want to argue with me, go ahead, I'll argue with you all day over. But that's the thing. You know, if you want to argue with me, boy, I mean, come on, and argue with me, but I fully believe you're around. But, you know, when it comes down, they're probably going to have to make a decision on this quite quick, because they can't have said and, you know, they have a match at the weekend. But Kate, you know, I don't want to see that when Nunez get a ban, because he's a Liverpool player, I don't want to see that when Nunez, you know, I don't want to see the Liverpool tournament, I'll write, that's the end of that when Nunez, because of what's happened there. And that when Nunez will have his soil of the story. But, you know, when we see players injured for six months, we go, ah, we can't be having feathers injured for six months. And people will make the argument if this fellas out for six months, and we don't know what it's going to be. You know what I mean? Um, you know, we don't know what it's going to be. We could be all talking this in the end of call. Now, look, we're not doing that in the very, you know what I mean? Which are terrible. It could happen, Kate, right? Yeah, which was a helpful thing. But the thing is, um, you know, if he's, if he's given a six-month ban for algorithmic sake, or even a three-month ban, and he misses eight, ten games with Liverpool, people will make the argument, listen, injured players, you know, cost you. But players getting banned like this, cost you. And I remember the time when Lewis Warner's got the bottom, people are like, listen, this fella has to go because he just keeps doing it. And in the end, he actually gets a meal off the back of the thing, you know, the killing, you know what I mean? But Kate, there will be people out there that will say, you know what? It might be time for just, it's just, it's too hard to handle. He's, he's not reliable. This stuff off the pitch, like I actually says, it causes more hassle than on it. And we've seen many players down the, down the years, keep where all failed actions end up wrecking their own failed potential, or, you know, for them and the clubs are like. It's a difficult one. I think I actually hit the nail on the head when she said he needs to get a psychologist, a club need to get a psychologist into him straight away. I walk on his, his, his mental state because all you don't think he's a bad apple. I don't think he's a bad egg. Do you know what I mean? I don't think it's a discipline issue with Darwin, known as he seems excellent around the training ground. He's supposed to be brilliant in and around training. It's just, he gets caught up in the emotion of the emotional moments, right? So I actually said it out. He's got one red card and that wasn't, it was in game, but it was a sort of off the ball. Yeah, man, Anderson is niggling at him and he sticks a half a head on to when he goes down. So it's not like he's crunching into tackles on his throne elbows or things like that. You know what I mean? Like it's, it was a steal, but the emotion got the better when he was being baited, baited, baited and bang you reacted. So we react in the emotional sort of the worst times possible. I think he can fit enough fixed up, I think he can address that with a psychologist, Louis Suarez, the, he got a psychologist into him as well. You know what I mean? They had to get the hypnotized him to stop bullying people, walk for a while, didn't walk. Walked again, then it didn't come off the smokes and he got to stop bullying people as well. It hasn't been anybody since he left the smoke. Our smoke suits them. Oh, he's still brilliant. You don't remain, he's doing great things, then so it worked. But I just think it's, you know, it's a psychological thing that when it gets emotional, and like I actually said as well, is that the Carlin coke final when it's, you know, the late goal and he's jumping down out of our foot and he's injured. Do you know what I mean? And he's fucking hoarding out of our steps and railings and hardens and everything else. I think he just gets caught up in a, in a motion. I think he gets, it's too emotional, he's too reactionary, too emotions. And I think that's what you need to fix him. I think if you sort it that way, and we've had this discussion back and forth and we've had this on WhatsApp groups and things like that. And it's, all you don't think the issue with Darwin known as is that he misses too many easy chances that he should score it. That is an issue. But I think if you get his focus, I get his head right, he doesn't miss them chances. And if you can get a player that's doing what he's doing, be so hits the misses, which is fucking you a driver. They can get their easy misses out of his game out of his mind out of his psyche. You've got the ceiling of one of the best players in the world here. And all you think it's worth trying to tap into that than it is cutting it loose, than than giving up on it. Because if you can get him to reach that potential, you've got one of the best players in the world. We've said this before, but is the, is the juice, water, squeeze at this stage? And that's what a lot of people have to think about. Yeah, I, I listen, I think it is, I think it is, you know, I think there's been a game in circumstance, in, in everything that's happened. You know, I think there's going to be, there's going to be stories from both sides that I can see them sort of rope before I play Canada, but you're going to get the ologo in Federation, the players coming out very strongly about security. You're going to get, whether it's come the ball or fever coming out, go on listen, you simply can't get into the stands. The chairting is going to be the killer for him, in my opinion. And but even, you know, if, in my opinion, if he gets, you know, the tutorials, the next 10 games that you're available for, for club and country, you can't play, right? Fine. I, I'm still, I'm still not, I wouldn't, I'd still be somebody that would worry around and go, yeah, look, you have to stop doing these fucking things. We have to get some sort, someone into your head to stop you doing these things. Now, I did see somebody saying, you know, I'm following the, they, they, Moik Dost said, psychology, psychologist, question mark for defending your family, you're having to laugh me, I'd love to know what you would do. We've said already. No, we've no, I don't know who it's directed at, but the thing is, we, we clearly said, the defending your family, we can actually get behind. It's the swinging of a fucking chair towards the stand full of people. That's the issue. And look, let's put it this way, right? If Darwin known as doesn't swing that chair yesterday, right? Doesn't pick up something that can be considered a weapon and swing it in the direction of fans were in the ground. And he scales a wall to try help family that he believes is in danger. He can stand up the small and go, oh, you felt they were in danger. I felt I wasn't security there. And the only people that were going to help where us, the players are the staff, right? But he can't actually stand up the small and say that because there's clearly pictures and videos of him holding a fucking chair and swinging it towards fans. That is no, listen, if he tries to understand that he's one of his family in the head, how is he protecting his fucking family? Do you know what I mean? So you can't be completely like, you know, total vision on this call. Darwin known as absolutely grand, like he's done nothing wrong. That's not true. Right? But you have to. That's where I understand where you're coming from. He's the emotion gets when someone said there is emotion is aggression and it's frustration is probably taking it with this chair. Do you know what I'm saying? But holding the chair is a fucking issue. And the story, you know what I mean? You need to channel the aggression in the right way and know where the line is. And he doesn't know where the line is. And this is the problem. You know, the chair is bad. Even when he goes into the crowd, he's front and center, trying to make his fans as well. Now, I don't know where his family are at this stage. The same videos of the the Uruguay players and delegates and people saying to the Columbia fans, look, this family here, this family here. We think it's on the Colombian fans. We don't blame the Oregon players on it. And you're saying this from an optical point of view, Darwin is the one who's front and center. He's the one with the chair. He's the one that is losing his shit, more than others. And he's going to get punished for that. And I think he needs to learn to cope that and channel that better. And we can all say, Oh, yeah, it's about your family, soy college and all this. You have to still have to learn if it was all that players are for their teams. If this was a Manchester, you know, okay, we'd all be playing a lap in a row, but I feel fouled. And that's something we'd be like, ah, fouled. We can't be there on that. So you have to be fair here. Darwin isn't in the fucking Roy here. Real talk says this feels like the OJ trial. If the chair don't fit, you're supposed to quit. Well, one of the best lines of all time. And let me see, let me see. Boom, boom, boom, boom. There wasn't a bit there as well. I wanted to read him, but I don't know where it's gone now. But yeah, look, we have to wait and see what happens. You are going to have, come the ball, you're going to have FIFA involved here. You're going to get involved. The players are going to have their side. There's going to be laws and laws said. The only thing that may stand to these players is the embarrassment over security, etc, on the American soil, the things. And they may want to sweep this under the carpet. Because of the World Cup coming up there in two years. Yeah, but FIFA won't. That's the problem. No, FIFA won't. FIFA won't. FIFA won't. FIFA won't. FIFA won't. FIFA won't. FIFA can solve our little, whatever, combo ball can't just say, listen, will there with this FIFA ever World Cup coming up there? Do you know what I mean? They're going to be like, now we want fucking punishments. Yeah, but but against that FIFA, FIFA will, but then FIFA are opening themselves up to everybody's who are going, well, hold on, you have a World Cup coming up there. And the federation you've given it to. And let's be honest, it's all under your, under your, you know, stewardship, the holla, euros, cupboards, wherever it's all under this FIFA stewardship when you think about it. Now, what's the security? Like, you know, like, you know, so it swings and roundabouts for them all. Um, but look, before we finish up a couple of things, um, Bordeaux, apparently, I think it was Bordeaux, apparently in talks with F.S.G. with regards to the sale of their football club. Um, what's the easiest choice you can make? Window instead of middle seat, picking a vendor who sends a great gift basket, outsourcing business tasks you hate. What about selling with Shopify? Whether you're selling a little or a lot, Shopify helps you do your thing. However you cha-ching, Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business, from the launch your online shop stage to the first real life store stage, all the way to the, did we just hit a million order stage? Shopify is there to help you grow, whether you're selling scented soap or offering outdoor outfits. Shopify helps you sell wherever and whatever you're selling. Shopify's got you covered. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at Shopify.com/try. Go to Shopify.com/try now to grow your business, no matter what stage you're in. Shopify.com/try. An interesting one because F.S.G. apparently we're looking, uh, maybe like, an MBA franchise or a, or there was rumors and then there was like, oh, they're waiting for a NFL franchise to become available and there was all sorts of stuff. But this looks like, and again, the Mike and Edward Mills back into F.S.G. multi-club ownership and things like that. It won't affect Liverpool in any way, to be honest with you. And it annoys me when people lose their shit and say that they won't. Ah, but of course, like, the boy in board allows you to won't spend money in Liverpool, and it's never even up with that. Like, you know what I mean? But, they're not messing around here, Keith, are they? No, that's not an opportunity. You know, they will buy a MBA team. I'm actually probably familiar with the, the, the state of play over in America. Was it, well, we got an MBA franchise to come to. There's, there's still franchise as we think being added to the MBA. We think, um, yeah, the Vegas want to come on board. And I think there's like, don't the LeBron James can't be involved as an act of player and things like that. So he can't be involved in ownership where he's playing. We want him to front it and all that. So look, there'll be, there'll be definitely movement in that space, I think, with the with FSJ over the next few years. But obviously, when Michael Edwards came back into the club, couldn't have been clear, he's not the Liverpool, uh, spawn director is the CEO of football for FSJ. And that remit will be leading the search for, uh, multi-club ownership. Now a lot of people are against this. I'm not a fan of it, but there's no point in being the model for congregations when it comes to these sort of things. Because in my opinion, that's what destroyed us in the 90s, when we had airway, they own things and we scoffed like Manchester and no, they'll never be commercial, they'll go on and becoming an absolute fucking juggernaut where we were left behind. So I think you have to do what I think all the clubs that they want to round about ways. And they have feed our clubs, they have clubs that are linked with them. Bordeaux Reuge Club. Now they're in the second tier. And they're being threatened to be dropped into the third. Because they're in the third. Yeah. And that's what I think they say that, I think they need something like 40 million euros or something just to, just to keep them, the trail being dropped into the total way, you know. So I don't know what the figures will be like. But Bordeaux is a Reuge Club, traditionally in France. It's not one of the big top heavyweight clubs, well, they're a big, big team. And if they can get them for a song, look, they got to live up over a song. We could say it being a good, you know, a good acquisition for them. It was always interesting to see what type of clubs they'll be going for. And Bordeaux is a big club and it's interesting. But we'll see what happens and what your costs and things like that. Yeah, actually, as apparently they're also looking at South American team, also a llama Bordeaux. But actually, like they're not messing about here, they have openly said that they're looking to purchase more football clubs around the world. And, you know, we all have heard of the NBA and the NFL and all sorts of stuff that he wanted to get on board with. But I did read something. I did read something was the last week, the week before, where they were literally saying, look, with everything we have at the moment, we're at full capacity as to what FSG can deal with the moment. But this is why this surprised me coming up this early with Bordeaux. But they're not going to go out on when it comes to football. I think they've hit on something with Liverpool. And there was a chance that they got 40, 40 in our years ago now. But they've hit on something where they go, look, we look at clubs that are traditional names that may be in the stress, and we can take them and use their, you know, algorithms or whatever they want to use to get them back to the top of the pinnacle of their, you know, their domestic football, maybe into Europe. And Bordeaux sounds like a decent fit when you hear what Kita said there, but, you know, the threats have gone into the tort here and need an extra amount of money just to save that awful. It's, someone says that Twitter from Manila says that you're on the end of Bordeaux are six time League one champions, League one champions, you know, yeah, they're not a big name. They won as early as 2009 recently. It's not, they're not off the map, yeah, you know, they've hit upon hard times because of COVID, they dropped out of League one to League two, or whatever League do or whatever. They, and, and I, you know, I think the only reason why this is actually coming out as news is because they're appealing this threat into dropping into the league, or whatever the French is doing really well here. When they get to make far and far, I'm really, really happy with me. So what's the far actually quarter? Yeah, yeah, I think we can all do the force. But yeah, so I mean, they've got, they've got a great following. They've got a history of Champions League and Europa League. And I think, you know, as much as these two things are going to be separate, like, I don't, it's not going to be like Liverpool light. It's not going to be a theater club. But there are things that might benefit Liverpool from having this club on the continent. And I think a lot of that is the young players that they can't recruit with the Brexit rules. And if they can do that through Bordeaux, like, I think that's kind of where, I guess the idea of a theater club comes into play, but I think they're going to want to see Bordeaux succeed in and of their own right. And if they do well, that's a good thing. It's not going to be like mini Liverpool. And I think what they're, what they're great at, what FSG are great at, is being opportunistic. And so they're, they see this sleeping giant that's like a distressed asset, basically. And they're like, we have an opportunity to buy this club on the cheap, basically. And I don't know if they'd be able to get that caliber of a club otherwise, if it wasn't struggling. Yeah, pretty good point. Yeah, I don't know. That's one, that's really thing. I think I understand why people are upset with like the multi club thing. I get it. Yeah, I think, I think the, I think the, if I have hit on some, and I think the experience over the last 40, like I said, 14 years at Liverpool, it's on a much bigger scale, obviously to Bordeaux. But some of the, you know, the basics as to what you've done on Liverpool and the mistakes they've made at Liverpool, because they haven't been perfect. But the mistakes they've made will have taught them when they go to a Bordeaux, or they end up in South America, that they can implement these things. And you know, this is a farmer that's really, really good. And if, if it's, if it's, if it's a farmer that walks with them, and they have the right people in charge of it, they can be confident enough that, you know, why they go off looking for more opportunities that these, these things like Bordeaux or whoever, whatever it might be, we'd be looked after. And the referee in the game last night got banned from actually fixed in 2004. I'm just saying, Robert McGuire. And yeah, but he's since then, he's fucking done so many big games ago. I couldn't believe the one up to these games where, oh, this referee was banned. You know, and it was like, most of the thing that was banned, I had me worry, there was the fact that he had a run in which he was bailing him, and bailing him got slaughtered for question. And I know he felt he was always going to be maybe a bit more friendly in his decisions, not to be seen to have any issues with Joe Bellingham. Anyway, I'll be watching, I'll be watching the club on definitely watching talent against you all, you know, on TSN. I mean, TSN's the best channel in the world now. That's, it's just a label. Yeah, but Kev killed by him. And the other fella, the scar, he's in a cult. He's fucking amazing. What's his name again? I can't remember his name. Come on, you know what I am. Stephen Caldwell, Stephen Caldwell. Oh, yeah. I can't believe my tummy goes, God, they're on there about 10 years. I was like, what? He's like, yeah, 10 to 10 years now. I was like, no way. But I'm fantastic, so I'm definitely going to watch that. Somebody did ask, could I say Uruguay and the American accent? I'm trying to think, is in the American accent, would they call them Uruguay, something like that? Would they be Uruguay? I can't do this accent. Yeah. Would it be that? You know, I think that's how they pronounce it on, on the TV carriages coverage is like Uruguay. Yeah, Uruguay. Uruguay. I don't know. It's like, it's like how they pronounce, what is it? Turkey it? Like, I don't know how they pronounce. No, this, this thing is a new thing. I don't know what that is. But this is a new thing, right? So Czechoslovakia was then the Czech Republic. And they were like, they were what's called Czechia, okay? And I look, I'm sure there's loads of political issues to that, right? Which is, which is absolutely fine. And they would, they were overseeing this going, Turkey, and I was like, what the fuck's going on here? Right? But clearly they've gone, they've gone away from the English saying of it, as Turkey, and they're going back to, what would have been the original word of it, in Turkey. I've seen it in the Ukraine as well, Kyiv, you know, it's not Kyiv, the way we always come back to Kyiv rather than Kyiv. It's there pronunciation. It's not ours. So that's fair. Well, we tell them, no, you're wrong on that. It should be. You're saying that wrong. It's not Czechia. It's Czech Republic. And start spelling it out from CZ. I didn't think your fellas got old Jews called them Czechoslovakia. No, I don't think you can but, you know what I mean? There's being wars and stuff on what is. I don't think you can. Do you know what I mean? But let me see. As a Canadian, I can tell you the TSN is worse off than borrowed out. I completely disagree with you. It's being the absolute star of the Urals. And when it was shut up without the star of the Cup of America, like I have so enjoyed Kevin Caban and Stephen Carwell. And just watch Stephen Carwell talking to the camera. It's like, he's like a cold leader. It's fucking incredible how he does it. And Kevin Caban does it then. They try, they try, copy each other and all. It's, it's great. Anyway, I think we've covered all the Darryl and stuff. FSG, doing all that stuff. And yeah, we might be back tomorrow. We don't know if we're going to be back Sunday because the finals aren't, you know, you know, all slides on the Sunday, we probably go on the latch and put that and just go, listen, we do a show some other time. But we'll definitely be back from Monday. And it'll be all about Liverpool. From a cup of oil on Sunday morning. So they know you Monday morning. Yeah. Yeah. It could be a heavy one. What Keith says that he has, if he Lewis D has our Alexis McAllister coming home with the blade and goal. We're guaranteed at least one cup of winter, which is great. Yeah. But Keith is saying that but then Keith 20 minutes into the game for all the sleep. Yeah. Yeah. So what time is it on for you guys? I think it's one, one a.m. It's the two a.m. ones that were killing me. And last night I fell asleep on a one a.m. over that was catching up on all the other games and also I think I'm going to prep myself now to yeah. You look like you're reading that down on a piece of paper. I think he's putting it in the water. Prepped for a cup of oil. It's right there. You know, banging around the fridge and going, right, we don't need any shopping this week. This is what needs to be done. I must be awake for this game. Bring back the magnets for the fridge. Yeah. Just a big huge magnet. You know, like a big heavy duty magnet that's like heavier than the fridge just absolutely clamped onto the door and you're like, that is all that's to happen this weekend in this house. I must be awake on Sunday night. Are you going to ring in to walk and say lads I won't be in Monday. Well, no, it's like the Super Bowl where you should go in after that as well. So, um, it should be okay. No more for me holidays. And anyway, so I'm going on Tuesday. Where are you going? So, I'm starting to salute. Oh, very nice. Very nice. So, I have the option of not walking Monday, you know, so. Then take that option. Now I'm going to kicks in. I have a have a roof on the nail grab. I'm going to the spine over two weeks. Well, 12 days, right? With the family. And then I'm on a late and stag weekend and I'll be fair that the tours that you'll get home. So, I'm on you back for a few days and I'm on a stag. And it's going to be a heavy, heavy stag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have to keep a few days of me. Absolutely, to simulate a job that is. A hundred percent. Yeah, a hundred percent. Yeah. You want to get the order of Malta on a speed order. And the crowd at Repatri H as well back to your home country there. They're going to be getting a few real director. Yeah, yeah. Once the crowd that deal with the Kevin Balts roasters, they've laid and give your family a dig out to get you back. They're getting a little late email. They have a way to go listen lads. I'm only back from Celia Roy. Chance is there and I'm not going to make it back from Elba Fair. What is the story of a prepay? What sort of this girl do I get for you to put me in the cargo part of the airline? Which is our best man on standby lads, best man on standby. Jesus, I just had an email like that. Fuck me. Yeah. The tour will be getting there. But anyway, listen, I'd like to say enjoy it. But Savoida, that's all I can say to you. Oh, we can start with an aspect of this age. Actually, have you only had all of these plans? How are you doing? Oh, like, any plans of the weekend? And who do you think will win the euros and the copper? I mean, I have to work early. I think, I think Spain win. Two, one, three, one, I think Spain win. The copper, I don't know because Colombia is on this mad winning streak. It's like the the world's longest winning streak. I think that's almost it. Yeah, you won't 20 games in a row. Why do you get games in a row without losing? Ah, no, hold on. Are they counting training games here? What are they doing? They're like competitive games. I think he's like drawn six of them or something like that. But the rest of them, he's one. So it's something ridiculous. So that would have to end. I mean, I don't think Argentina has looked like peak Argentina. I don't know about what you've seen, but they've, like, Messi's been nursing in New York, New Jersey, you know, it's right online. But yeah, Messi's been nursing an injury and he hasn't, like, it depends on if he shows up. Like, he showed up a little more against Canada than he did in the games previous. And if he does show up for the final, I think that swings it. So it kind of depends on him. You're going to Spain and Hilden. I'm going to throw Colombia in just to just to throw, like, a spanner in the works or whatever the term is. I'm going to, I'm going to agree with you on both of them. Keith. I'm going against you on both of them. I think England will win it. And I think actually, you know, I think England, England are going to get very, very lucky in the sense that the Spanish have been fighting away the best team at the oral. So it gets not even close. They're an amazing team. England has started to scoot that away through, where they've scooted away all the way through the tournament. And momentum is a big thing, and I say that about Liverpool, you know, momentum is what Cardi's in these. And to get a winner at that stage, they'll be confident on it. But I think if you're a Spanish player, it's like they're getting knocks and little niggles here and there. And it'll be curious to see the team, the line up that Spain put out for this. I have a feeling that England and Argentina are going to be the ones that win it. It is Miami. People in the Masters, right. I don't know why it's the New Jersey home game for Messi. There you go. Yeah. I've got a lot of Colombians as well. The Colombian. Yeah. No, I got that wrong. There's a big Colombian contingent everywhere in the planet. I know I found in Miami, it's like their second way from home. Yeah, because everywhere you mentioned about Colombia, it's like now, there's just loads of clums. Like Pete was on the other day or a couple weeks ago going, yeah, there was the as a goal to Barcelona, because just loads of Colombians there. So it's a bit like the Irish, like everywhere you go, it's like, yeah, oil and build this place, the Irish build this place. There's millions of them around. Yeah, but we're there because we immigrated and built everything. The Colombians are probably there for different reasons, they're not the main level. Yeah, whatever reason there is the scene with your grand. Yeah, they're doing great job. But there's Colombians everywhere. I think, yeah, it'd be interesting. Messi's hometown now are the heavily Colombian. Yeah, it'd be interesting. I just, I don't give a shit about the euros. It's the copper for me and I hope Argentina win. Paul, actually is really Colombia on a huge winning streak, and they're a very, very good team. And they've got Hammers Rodriguez, who we said, he was sort of having a bit of an Indian summer there. And they've got Richard Rios in the midfield and he blew his tears and developed players that we're familiar with as well. So it's going to be a very good game. I recommend having you as a napped Jordan Dioros final and stay up for the copper. That's what I'm going to do. The copper games have been so much more entertaining than the euros game. So like if you're bored by like the really safe park, the bus stuff that you're seeing in the euros, the copper is like the antithesis of that. It's just full steam ahead, crazy. Like if Darwin knew that it was a game, that's what the copper would be. Yeah, cool. So I'll probably watch both of them in fairness, because it's, well, I will definitely watch the euro phone because it's on like whenever eight o'clock here. But I'll definitely give the copper a bang as I want to clock as well. I'll be watching on TSN. If you're watching, I'm even on a channel, you're a trader. And as far as I can say, I know TSN, the king of sports at the time, our sports coverage, whatever you want to call it. Anyway, that has been us. We've covered loads there. I hope you enjoyed. If you didn't, welcome me there. We don't care. It's not what we can do, we're, it's gone now. That's being actually, that's being key to oil being gaff. Thanks a minute for watching. Hit the like, hit subscribe, become a member if you like. The phone raise, our link is in the description if you want to check them out as well and help us out. And yeah, that's a bad idea. We might be back tomorrow. We could be back Sunday. We'll definitely be back Monday. That's all I'm giving you. Well, we're new. [Music] Social podcast network
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Is Darwin In Big Trouble ?
Darwin Nunez was involved in a big bust up as trouble blew up in the stands as Columbia beat Uruguay in the Copa America Semi final… Could Darwin be looking at a lenghty ban?
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