- This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. (upbeat music) - Hello, good evening and welcome to the talking cup. I'm Gavin, Matt is beside me, Emmett is beside me. And we're gonna talk a lot of stuff about Liverpool, a little bit about the Euros. I'm wherever else you wanna speak. If you have, where do we wanna start? Oh, I'll tell you where I want to start. I wanna start on the golf day that we had on Friday. And again, it was great crack. Thanks a million day from the tone of 'em played, anyone that sponsored, anyone that supported, watch this on, social media going around the cars. Thanks to Keith, it was like the on-course rider, which like, pulls on twist on it, which was mad. Anyone that does no rider is on the coin. He's the fellow that walks the course on the coin. But now it was a really good day again. He raised, I think about 13, 1400 Euros on the day, which was grand, because we are worried in the run-up to it. That it'll just be a game of golf for me, won't make anything, but we did make a few quid. We're already in plans for next year, and a few people have spoken to, want to go big, big, big next year. So, believe it or not, and we'll see what we can do. We're just lost, talk about, we start with the Euros. England went through today, God knows how, and Spain popped Georgia away, but I really enjoyed watching Georgia. Just on today's games, Spain were impressive overall, and fairness, Georgia gave as good as the game, but that's just what happens. Spain was just a much better team. And then you look at England, too, like they literally, you know, if that's the lucky fella doesn't kick the ball out for a long trial, if you just swivels and kicks up the pitch England route, do it a bismill again. - Shocking, yeah. And then you come to the rescue of Trent and look, he hasn't played well when he has played, and then you're kind of thinking it's the manager, and then it's just like, I'm chatting to somebody else today and they're like, at some stage, and I think we've probably said this on this podcast, probably about Manchester United, when they've gone through tough times with managers where it looks like the players are playing for the manager or whatever it's like. Surely these group of 11 professionals can come together and decide, right, they're not for this bleeding messon and going. And not necessarily disobey the manager, but like put your stamp on a game like you, because I know he's risk-averse and that kind of stuff, but at some point these lads have to say, look, this is a business game. As much as they'll say that they don't look at social media cars, they do. Like, I just, literally was just about to watch an interview with lads that left the ground early before they scored the equalizer, so I'm looking forward to that now after this. But yeah, I just, I don't know what it is. I know we, I said, why did they look so good at hard, even when somebody says the 60-yard games they played, but like, it's not like these other countries that are coming into this haven't played loads of games. Now, I know that the England players will generally be in Europe and stuff like that, maybe the Slovakia players probably don't play in Europe or don't have as many games to play in Europe, but that's, it's not an excuse. I just, I don't know what is wrong with them. It's just, it looks like they need a good talk, the bleeding hole, and I thought they were gonna get it before bailing them. Obviously came to the rescue, much like he has for Ray on Madrid for a lot of disease and as well, last-minute winners are equalizers. What, like they're on the easy side of the draw. Like you wouldn't put a pass, them going the other way and getting to the final. - I think, I think so. - And bounce off them. - Yeah, something needs to change. Oh, you think I put a text message into the WhatsApp and it was like, it was Palmer's free kick, as a shot, Tony redirecting the ball back into goal and Kane's guard a winner. That's three, three of the players that I would always for didn't start the game. Like, that has to tell you something. And that was a world shot by Eze, but like, things happened when they came out. And also the fact that the only, I thought the only way that England were gonna get a goal is if Slovakia got really tired. And it turns out it was a wonder goal in the end. Oh, and I, honestly, like I'm way, like just to sing enough towards an hour, like a prep, it couldn't possibly be. I know people slagged Liverpool against West Brom in 2015 or whatever, when they went down and were drawn, stuff like that. But that's different. These were celebrating that way. I know you celebrate that you're true, but it was like they were celebrating the performance, like it all was part of the plan or it was a master stroke by Selkie and I just, there's something not right there. - Oh, I watched that one. - It's hard to put your finger on it. - It's not hard to put your finger on it, it's the manager. - It's simply the manager, like he makes one change. I think he makes, does he make one change from? - Oh tournament, he's only made one change, but two changes, but one part in. - Yeah, and you look at it today and he's just constantly changing who's put to the decker and Royce. Constantly just trying to babysit the fellow. And I watch decker and Royce in depth today. Like literally, I've done my studio where I just watch a player. And he genuinely does this thing where whenever all the center half has the ball and someone goes to press the center half, he stands directly behind the goi, pressing the center back. Doesn't make an angle, doesn't move, doesn't do fuck all. And he's a parlour, he's like a parlour. And like I'm literally saying to myself, if they can't see this, how are you meant to get balls in the midfield and someone on the torn to go and play football? All it leads to is fellas like Royce coming right back in the center half and playing a little fallback or maybe playing into a sack or a foul. But the other team I just said, and the manager can say he picks a team there today, sack is not on it, foul is not on it. Royce was okay, but like in terms of being the goi that's meant to manage the midfield and get them gone, he's not good enough. Mainly was actually better than him because Mainly was melting the pockets and I'm milled with the ball. Cain scores a goal, but my Jesus Christ, he's doing nothing for him. He thinks he's a six. He's doing nothing for him. He's going back to babysit Royce. Yeah, it's absolutely mad. And look, they get true. You know, I'd say they're relieved to get true. If they start coming out saying we believed in ourselves and we always thought that you're going to go and we just stop, you didn't believe in yourself because what you're doing was you throw a lot of players on and the only way you're going to go is from a long draw or a corner. You weren't opening up Slovakia whatsoever. It wasn't happening, but that's the way it goes. Ma, I'll give you a spell. We're going to go on to players later on and we want to talk about a player in this game ball. They go behind. Fair play, they charge, they give everything they had. They look down, there's on the break, every time they got up. Spain just keeps showing up the ball over and showing and showing and showing until they just, they just, you wilt, you know. And they get the equalizer, they go in front or they go goal and then you can just see that you knew you were going to take one of the more chances and he did, they look very impressive. - Yeah, I mean, the strength and depth that they have, I mean, it's something that Kevo Sullivan's pointed out about the Spain team, just the number of crosses that they put into the box. So they're able to put the crosses into the box and then when those second balls come down, they have those tidy players that are sitting there right on the edge of the box. I mean, it's fucking Roger, he's so good. He's just, he's so, so brilliant at it. But all those players, they just have that, that technical ability to play those short little passes in and around the box and it was always going to show for them. And I mean, I said into the telegram group that Slovakia and Georgia can be very, very proud of what their teams have done in this tournament. I mean, to get out of the group stages and then to put that fight up to them. In the end, it looks like a bit of a talking that Georgia took off of Spain. But a couple of late goals kind of makes the score line look worse than it was, but, you know, they were quite good just to get my two pence in on England is, England's one of the few teams, 'cause I haven't been able to watch all the games 'cause some of them are on in the middle of the afternoon for me over here in Canada. But I'm seeing a lot of teams. You look at Austria, you look at, you know, Turkey, you look at Switzerland, teams like this. Slovakia even today against England up until about the last 10 or 15 minutes that aren't trying to park the bus. They're not trying to do a Greece job. They're actually trying a Greece job. They're play like Greece did when they won the tournament. They're actually trying to play positive and attacking football and they're getting rewarded for it. And England is just, they're so the opposite of that. Like, it's so close to having a great, great Saturday afternoon, or Sunday afternoon watching them go out and then they pull it out at the end. But it's that other side of the draw that has, I mean, the Spain-Germany game is just, that is box off right there. - Yeah, that's what it is. - I mean, if the other two games go the way they're gonna go and you end up with Portugal and France and the other quarterfinals, it's that's the side of the draw to watch. - Yeah. You know, that's where the draw is, madness. England's where the draw, you know, I think if you were to beat Switzerland, you'd play possibly Austria or somebody else. - Turkey, Austria, Netherlands, Romania, or something like that. - Yeah, yeah. So, you know, you're looking at an okay choir and maybe it's one for a semigo. It's, for me, just watching England, I just think, what I think is, when the come up against a team that are as good as them, what are they going to do? Because they're up against teams here that aren't as good as them, but they're coming out and playing football against them. And they're struggling. Looks like they've actually played football against them for 44 minutes there today. Like actually played the ball around, moved them, and England were all over the place. Like all over the place. And the manager continues to sit there and continues to pick the same players that aren't walking. Like, people, so many of the chatters said, "M, Tony made a huge difference." Yes, he did, because what he did was, he came on as a center forward, and he went, and he put himself up against the center backs. He, you know, he made them walk for what they were doing. He went on, he went, "I'll go up in the air, "would you? "I'll struggle on the ground with you." Cain doesn't want to do that. Cain wants to go up and stand up there and then go, "I'll come six, six, 10 yards off "and get the ball and turn, "and then I might get on the sniff on the end." He doesn't want to engage center backs. So what's happening is, if he doesn't hold on to the ball, center backs is just strolling, they'll pass them, and playing football against England. And they're literally all over the place when it happens. And that manager continues to pick players that you go, he shouldn't be playing. Like, Phil Walden shouldn't be staring for England. I think he's a wonderful footballer, but in the way they play, he shouldn't be staring for England. Saka shouldn't be staring. Palmer should be staring, because what Palmer does is, he doesn't slow down. He gets the ball, and he goes at you. You know, he decides on the full back, "I'm gonna move at you, and I'm gonna push you back, "and I'm gonna go." Saka wants to stand off, stand off, play it, and so, Palmer's much better. But again, when you go back to the manager, and while he's trying to, the way he's trying to get into play, it just doesn't work for the players he has. He'd be much better when like two dorkoids left on the right side of the midfield, because that's all he wants him to do. It's stay in shape even when they're tired. It's mad, but look, the trail, Spain are trail, Germany went through last night, Italy went out, they were, but Paul, and you know, there's a couple more of these to come over the next couple of nights, and I'm looking forward to him as well. Moving on, and into transfers, and stuff like that. Look, this Anthony Gordon thing. I know people who have an opinion on, "Do you want Anthony Gordon? "Do you not want Anthony Gordon? "Is there any truth in it?" Is that not, you know, again, it all kind of feels like it's relying on Liverpool, the soil, and that they don't need to lose their ass anymore, and he moves on, and you make way for somebody else to come in. But, Emma, I come to you first. Even if you want them or don't want them, and people are saying it's a PRX soil, it's a new castle. If that's an attempt at a PRX soil, but a new castle, it's an Apollo. So you're basically going to, and if the rumours have to be true, okay, new castles have gone to Liverpool, about Anthony Gordon, and have thrown, drilled Quants's name into the mix. If Anthony Gordon was sitting there in Germany, tomorrow we're gone, "Why come we're off from here, aren't we?" As a PRX soil, it's even as a PRX soil. What is my name in the Fokker mix? What do you think of Anthony Gordon a possible move to Liverpool? What do you think of this PSR? I've gone to the whole PSR thing in the minute, but what do you make of this? Is this just an easy name to troll for Liverpool, because of everyone things they would do as a goal, Anthony Gordon players down that soil, new castle need to sell for PSR. Where are you on all this? I think, yeah, it's awful that they're telling the players that he wasn't the only one that they've told them, they've told it a few, hadn't they? For them, or for reports to say that they made contact with Liverpool, not the other way around, are they building an express, they're interested, but for them to do it, if that move doesn't happen, what kind of a relationship has Gordon now got with? With new castle, not necessarily any help, but with the actual probe itself. In terms of Anthony Gordon as a player, I think he's excellent, I really don't like him. And I didn't like him, I never didn't don't like him, I don't like him, I chose himself around the pitch and whatever, he's a little crumbed, basically. And it's different when they're yours. Do you know what I mean? Not that they're even and all that kind of stuff, but he's, I just, he is a Liverpool fan, I never knew he was a Liverpool fan, I knew he was at Liverpool Academy, but I didn't know he was a Liverpool fan, I always just the way he went on for everything against Liverpool, I always assumed that he was an Everton fan. But I think there are better options out there for similar amounts of money. And one that you're going to probably talk about in the world. And I think he's really good, I think he got 10 goals, 11 assists last year, which is probably more than the person that he's likely to replace Louis Diaz, but doesn't been now talk on whatsoever about Louis Diaz going. In fact, he came out, was a couple of weeks back then that he's really happy where he is. And if we are looking to get rid of, or not get rid of him, but if he is looking to move, we are looking to move him on. And Gordon is the person that's to come in, it'll probably be a deadline day deal, because first of all, I'm not going to have to open up a goal for me or something to try and get the money to get it to buy him. And for me, Gordon, if we signed him, I'd get behind it, but I just think there's better players out there for the money that Newcastle are going to be looking for. Yeah, John Owen, the chat is still reading the echo because he says according to local journalists, the line they're getting fed from the club is sent, the back is in the priority, DM is in the priority, forward is in the priority. Apparently we have the perfect squad already in place. The reason you're reading that is, John, is because they're not getting any line from the club. So what they're doing is they're making up a line and then they're going from there. But look, I tried to help you last week, you haven't taken the advice, it was not like a deal. Man, Anthony Gordon, you know, I'm seeing an awful lot of stuff around. I had enough money in there to get through PSR, but enough money in there to get through PSR, but that doesn't mean you're open to add into your squad this summer, or wherever it might be. I know you're into another financial year, but you still leave your boy players, you still don't have to sell them. Is that what they're going to do now? Are they going to boil all the players after the tour due to June and declared PSR and then hope to sell another load, but by the next June, because this trick ever walks once, mightn't walk again. Yeah, well, it's something that I said about when the news about Chelsea needing to offload a bunch of players before the end of June to comply with PSR is, you know, it's all well and good to sell off some of your young academy players, but eventually that cover runs bare and you don't have any more. So you're like, you can only go to that well so many times. Newcastle strike me as probably needing some defensive reinforcement. So it looks like they're going to have to bring some players in. So it could be possible that a player like Anthony Gordon or Alexander Isaac or Bruno Guemareche might still be available to leave the team to help them balance the books so they don't have to go through this in June of 2025. But in terms of the player himself, I'm kind of torn on him because I've shouted some rather awful things at my television screen, watching Anthony Gordon play. But like Emmett says, he's the kind of bastard that if he's playing for you, I think you can kind of get behind. I put him in the same grouping as like Bernardo Silva despise him when he's not playing for your team. But if you played for you, you'd be like, that's our bastard. He's not like Bruno Fernandez, where you're completely embarrassed of him as a footballer and you don't want him at your club at all. I think he's a dynamite talented player. Like I saw some people there in the chat saying that he's overrated. I don't think he's overrated. I think he could be the type of player that's just hitting his peak right now because I think he's what 24, 23, 24 or something around there. Yeah, he's just coming into the prime of his career. He's got he's got some dynamism about him. And the flip side of the he's a diver and goes down easy thing. Is he wins easy penalties? And one thing that we don't really do as a club is get the rub of the green when it comes to players that go down and get the soft calls in the box. So if he can bring some of that stardust over with him, then I'd be I'd be OK with that. To me, he's if you're talking about Louis Diaz going out and replacing him with Anthony Gordon, that's like for like swap that I think is better on pretty much every metric you're looking for. I think his output is better, his age is better, his homegrown status is better, which gives you better flexibility elsewhere in the squad where you're not going to be handcuffed by the non homegrown player quota in the squad. It just comes down to what he's going to cost from Newcastle. But like you said, it feels like he's being hung out to dry. And I don't get that because he seemed like a fairly key player for Newcastle last season. And I don't know why the club hierarchy would want to create any sort of waves in the media that might unsettle him and get him to the point where Anthony Gordon's coming into Newcastle after the euros and going, you guys don't want me anymore? Like, if you don't want me then, then tell me. I don't want to be here anymore. Yeah, and to be honest with you, we don't know what Liverpool is a club are saying to Louis Diaz because, you know, when it comes down to it, like nothing has come from Liverpool. So it's just fans just so it's not always the as the age he's at. Or he's left on a contract, F.S.G, fucking the new regime, whatever, you know, sell them, make the money, whatever it might be. Jonathan says, new concert owners are saying that he don't need to sell his acregard. Now, they just told two young players for $23.25 million. That ball has sailed, maybe so. But my biggest thing on that, and by the way, I wouldn't take Anthony Gordon just to let you know. Listen, I can't stand them. Comes to the last class of lovely fella, can't Roy the boy. He doesn't know how the brakes walk on them. But, you know, apparently, no, he's fella. But I can't fucking stand the ground he walks on. You know, I don't know. Like, we're meant to sit here now for the last two seasons, two plus seasons, and look at Anthony Gordon and go, what the fuck is this fella? Like, all you hear about him is him going down, falling over, looking for penalties, this, that, and you know. And then we're meant to sign him and go, ah, look, you know, he's all Roy, he's not. He's not. He's not even a little prick. And the mental gymnastics, you'd have to do week on week on week for this fella. It just doesn't add up for me. No, that's whatever amount of time, whatever amount of money it is. He's just not for me. You know, I looked her up. He gets a goal or assists every two and a half games for Newcastle. He was booked 12 times last season. I'll let you go and look over the reason the reason why he was booked. And overall, because he's English, he's worth 80 million quid. Not for me, he's not. He's not worth 80 million quid. It's not almost down there. I don't think he's worth 80. Well, that's the number that I've taken. He's not gone for any less. They signed them for 40. It's been for 44 million. And since they signed them, he's the number 10. He's the big fucking hope. He's in the England squad. But of course he's worth. Of course he's 70 and 80 million. That's the way the world walks now. He's not 80 million. For me, he's not 80 million. And honestly, you know what I mean? It's, um, Gav, you're talking about the Anthony Gordon I've ever done. Not at Newcastle. Are you having a fucking laugh? Are you having a laugh? Have you watched Anthony Gordon? Have you watched Anthony Gordon since he signed for Newcastle? You need trouble with your toys, you're on the tram, and you got taken off on a game. Didn't he, you fell over. Hold on a minute. Are you honestly telling me that you think that the fella the falls over and cheats and fucking everything else is the fella from Everton and that Newcastle. Come on. Go back and watch Newcastle against West Ham at St. James's Park, just that. No, I'll leave it at that. Won't take you too long. Watch the highlights. He's in most of them and not for the great reasons. But 80 million quid, not for me. The PSR team, you know, I got onto it in a minute. But I just think it's... He comes across the noise fella. He's a Liverpool fan all of a sudden. You know, when he was at Everton, it was all about when he was missed at Everton, he was that star boy. He was going to be this guy and the other for them. And then they just went, "We can't afford. "We have to sell." And he fucking forces way out of Everton. And now all of a sudden, he's all about how he's a Liverpool fan. Like, and if it is a PRX so it's by Newcastle, I think it's an horrendous one. And I don't like the chap. But in fairness, if he's sitting in Germany and gone, "What's going on here?" There's a part coming out. No, I don't know. He could have said, "Yeah, use me name "and just get a few boys out of the dorm. "Maybe I'll go for the next season." But it's still a Newcastle team that will struggle to invest, I think, to improve, a needs investment to improve. Do they have Europe this year? I don't think they do. No, they don't. No, they got kicked out because... Not kicked out, because... Who won the FA Cup? Oh, you know, it's because you know it's the FA Cup. Yeah, no, it's the FA Cup. Newcastle, yeah. Newcastle, yeah. But I just look... He's easy on the Oi as a player of times, but I think for me, I'll be watching him every week on... Oh, my geeze, I'm gonna have to fucking ting around, a way around fucking dealing with this cornfall and all the time, you know what I mean? And he's not watery. Who would you buy as a winger then that plays off at the left for about 80, 85 million then, yeah? The fella of Napoli, without a shadow for them. I love that one up there for you. Well, I'm gonna pour it out there now. I'd actually go with sawing him and killed up in the summer. Never really think of it. Yeah, but I'd saw him in the boat. If Lewis D has... And I'm still not 100% sure Lewis D has Davis the club, right? But if Lewis D has Davis the club, I'm signing the go out Napoli. Where there was shadow for them. He's fucking magic. Everything about his walkway, on the ball, his vision, everything about just... He... Do you know when you see a player and you go, he will just be a daughter Liverpool. He will be a daughter Liverpool. And I like the look of Williams off-spain, but he... Look, pace, power. Gotta go golf tonight. But he's a sort of fella that I think he went far off for a game. He's got a goalie jacket and Lewis D has treatment. And this treatment Lewis D has is getting right now. Like, people forget what Lewis D has went through. Injury was coming back. The whole team was down. There's more than everything else came back. It does his absolute best for Liverpool. Remember in the League Cup form, he fucking ran himself into the ground with the League Cup form. And everyone was like, "What are the performance from Lewis D has?" And the week later, he was just giving it a round. And what happens is, you know, there's a massive level for Mane Salah, you know, if you're coming up into those positions and following them, it's so hard to do it. But Williams is, you know, it's fantastic. You know what I mean? He is fantastic. But I just think... You know, Ferris Gallia, is that his name, is that who you say? - He's calling Ferris Gallia. - Yeah. Him is, you know, I just think he's magic. I just think if you put him in a little short people, he'll be just falling off every week. And he has at the back of the rope. That's where I am right. I just got totally disagree with you. Look at his underlying numbers. I do agree with an aptly player who showed his quality, I can't deny that. He was underlying numbers. - Gordon, presumably. - Gordon, okay. I looked it up. He played 51 times when he was at the last season. I think he got 12 goals and 11 assists. So that's a goal, he assists every two games. Just over two games. And he's booked 12 times. So that's the stats. That's the stats. The PSR stuff though. Matt, I'll come to you first. We've seen, you know... The Villa one. Villa saw in your man from Chelsea, flying 37 and a half million. I think he was a producer, wasn't he? - Yeah, he was a dog, my dad. - Yeah, yeah. Really, really good player. You see that and then you see, like, dub and go on from Everton to Villa for two million and Everton taking someone else from nine million and Newcastle have sold a guy around the verge of selling a guy to Northern Forest. He's played 50 Premier League games, has no goals. He still assists. And he's gone for 23 million at 21 years of edge. We didn't know who he was. And you're seeing all this PSR stuff, right? And look, everything got stoned, whether Forest got stoned at last year, and especially with the yamanda went to sports and he sold and beyond. Yeah, Brendan Johnson. And you're seeing all this stuff and you're currently gone. Yeah, it looks a bit roby, but... And the Premier League have apparently put out a statement saying they're gonna watch these teams and they're gonna make sure that this doesn't happen. The Premier League sanctioned these... Premier League sanctioned them. They say, "Yeah, go ahead." But this is what they're up against now, isn't it? Because of the rules they put in place and the light sanctions. They came to teams that failed at last year. There's teams out there now, Matt. I'm just gonna go, "Yeah, we'll just take the three points." Let's don't worry about it. Take the fucking three points. I mean, move on. - See, I've heard you say that and I don't know how much that's gonna be the case. Like, especially... So there's two separate issues. There's the issue of just saying, we'll take the points deduction. Like in baseball, they have a luxury tax. If you go over the salary cap and there's owners, Todd Bully specifically, that just say, "Fuck it, how much tax?" And they just peel off a couple, tens of millions. They pay the league and they're good to have an over-inflated salary. I don't think there's gonna be a lot of teams that do that because what was three points the difference for Newcastle? Newcastle would be playing in Europe next year with three points. A three-point swing can be a lot. That would be possibly enough to take you from a Champions League position into a Europa League position or from your open-to-conference or conference to absolutely nothing. Or in the case of some of those teams at the bottom, that might be, it wasn't last season, but it might be enough to put you into the bottom three and then you're relegated out of the league. So I don't know how much teams are gonna do that because the flip side of it is, is this bullshit over inflating the values of players like Allie Anderson or Yankuba Minte or stuff like that, which just makes me think that Harvey Elliott's value must be 390 million euros. If a guy that's got 50 games for Newcastle had very little effect. This isn't Lewis Miley, the young kid for Newcastle that actually did really well for them. Elliott Anderson was rather middling when he came in. They said he's got kind of no end product results coming out of it. Very few games, 33 some million for him. Like players like Curtis Jones and Harvey Elliott would be worth 150, 200 million euros there if you're using that because it's obviously malarkey. Like it's obviously garbage. It's like the Eddie had paying 10 times what any other company has paid to sponsor a stadium or a shirt before. Like there's something fishy going on here. So as much as it heartens me to see that teams are somewhat concerned about PSR, like there is obviously something to these rules because teams are making moves in the transfer market to try to comply with the rules. They are, but are the sanctions stronger? I'm amazed the ones that are buoyant. I'm amazed the one that's buoyant this guy. They're not in the forest. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, not in the forest can say spread our payments over 40 years, I think they can. And Newcastle can claim that's that totally, that's totally three million profit in this year, right? And that's grand, but like, 33 million for Elliott Anderson. Like I've read the stats here. He's a 21 year old Scotland player, Scottish player that's played 50 times for Newcastle. I don't have to break down Lee Cooper ever. He's played 50 times for Newcastle. - It should be 3.5 million. Is about what his value probably should be. - He's played 50 games, I think, is presumably the midfielder. And he's, he has three assists. He's no goals. He hasn't got a goal in Newcastle. No, I'm sorry. But like, we're, we're, we're sitting here, right? And we're talking about like, we could get this fella for, let me put it this way. We're talking about a goalkeeper here. That's probably the best back of goalkeeper in the division. And it's probably better than, I would say over half the goal, 14 goalkeepers in the league. - 90 million. - And we're going, 24 million. I think we could get 24. And there's a goal, literally, that's played 50 games in the Premier League. Has no goals. And he's gone for 33 million. If you told me Elliott Anderson, had played 50 times for Newcastle, he had 15 goals and 10 assists. He's only 10, he's only 21 though. I go, fuck me. That's a goal of assists every, every two games. 23 million. Yeah, you know what? But this stuff, this stuff is fucking mad. Like, you know what I mean? And look, you know me, I fucking hate the cheating that's going on. But apparently to me, Emma, 200,000 goals. Well, you hit someone with two points for last season and you hit someone else with three, right? And these lads, and I get max points, you know, three points can be the difference of Europe but three points. But surely close our way in this up there, I'm going, but hold on a minute. Let's fucking, let's not lose this player here. Forever. Let's take the fucking three point here and keep player A or player B because the more values of them over the course of the next two, three, four years. Yeah, and it probably depends on where a team is. In whose point, it's not in the first point, this chap of Newcastle by 23, is it? Yeah. I'm not up to speed with the whole team. But the talk is the new one has to sign in the goalkeeper of Forrest as well. I heard that earlier and I could be completely wrong when I say that. So, like, do we think that it's been like that daily in the books, like here? Like, you know what I'm saying? No, but surely not in Forrest that are going to have to pull up the two or three million. It's not going to say we're going to say that we're getting two or three million, but it's not like the man's city situation. No, what they're doing is, they'll say to Newcastle, we pay you two or three million for this goal. But we're going to pay you six million a year for the next five years or six, whatever. It's 6.7, 40 million a year for the next five years. But the new cousin can claim that it's totally three million per hand profit because the player on the 29th of June has been sold to not on Forrest for totally three million. So, it's not monetized across the contract for the selling club. It is for the buying club. Did you get me? Yeah, no, no, I get it. But it's still, like, what the fucking hell I do, they don't pay in two or three million for, like you said, for a chap that's, that did even play for Scotland in the Euros. I don't think it did. So, it's a Scottish international- It's the end of Scotland, it's one of the Euros. It's the Scottish international. But that's the thing. So, what the fuck are new? I want to fuck out of it. I want to pay in two or three million pounds. It's one I'm saying. But that's one I'm saying. But this is what I'm saying to you. Why is that deal going through? It's one thing, right? But the Premier League coming up and going, we're going to watch this and we're going to do this, like, they're the ones that are okay. The way they deal. When all the paintworks goes in, they go, boom, boom, boom, grand, boom, there you go, done. So, what are you putting out a warrant for? When there's a fellow going from one, like, academy to another for nine and ten million. There's guys that played four Premier League games, gone for ten million. They've been out on loan for the last two years. They've gone for ten million this way. And it's between Chelsea, Villa, Everton. That's the tree. I know forests are jumping in with Newcastle. It's, it's a bit mad. I think they're like, so with the way that Villa, like, so if Villa involved in it, the way Villa finished last season, top four, they could probably roll the dice on it. I don't think an atmosphere is going to fall to roll the dice on these on getting three points. Villa might be able to. Everton most certainly won't be able to. Newcastle probably could. So Newcastle and Aston Villa could probably roll the dice and say, look, we'll just take the hit on it. But I can't see why not in the forest and like, well, I mean, they've already been deduct the points. And I think we've been deduct the points and we still stayed up. So we'll just chance around again. And you're looking at the themes that are coming up, thinking. No, you see, because forests relax. No, because forests are going to be, forests are going to have 23 million on the books. Forests are going to have 6 million on the books. 6.75, there's a 6 from around that. They're going to have, they're going to have 6.6 million on the books for this year. Right? For the end of the year. It's not 23, it's 6.6. Yeah, so it doesn't impact them negatively and it impacts Newcastle positively. Positively because, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it should be, yeah. If it's a case that, if it's a case that they're going to do that, then I'd say it has to affect both clubs in the same way as in. If it's only 6.4 million going against, not in the forest, it's only 6.7 million whenever going for Newcastle. No, because Newcastle can do 23 million on the bottom right there in there. No, no, but I know they can, but you can't, like, that's obviously, you can't have one team bolted them and impacted positively from it, from the actual deal, when in fact it should have been negatively impacted, at least one of them. So it should be impacting both clubs the exact same. So if they're going to pull it out of whatever, whatever the five years or whatever, well then Newcastle should be made, pull it off over the table. Yeah, but it's never been that way. Because you've sold an answer for 23 million, you're a little put on your books right now. It won't appear in your account. Well again, for a forest then, it should appear on their account straight away. But now they're only paying 60 years, but that's where, obviously, somebody said it there, don't try and understand it. I purposely avoid this. No, it's very interesting. I just don't understand. If Liverpool go and sign a player, if Liverpool go and sign a player for 50 million pounds tomorrow, off Newcastle. Say anybody out in the garden for 80 million tomorrow, right? Liverpool would probably say, we're putting down 20 million upfront, and the 60 million will be done over the six year contract. So what happens is, Newcastle can put 80 million down in the books, and Liverpool put down 20, sorry, 30, right? So Liverpool have bought an 80 million pound player, but the only output is 30. And then every year, the Anthony Garden 10 million will go on there for another five years, right? But Newcastle get to put the 80 down now. Do you get me? But I don't understand why, when they don't have the money. I don't know why either. But that's the way it works. That's the way it works. But that's not saying it shouldn't. It should be if unless they're giving in the 80 million, they're in cash. You can't report on having that 80 million. So they should only be reporting on having 10 million. No, what it is, is they're 10 million a year thereafter. They're posting future guaranteed revenues in the books now, because they've agreed they're 80 million now. That's what they're doing. Sorry, that one was a super chart of humans go. Dylan John says, "I'd rather an equal Williams." Let me show you. Farad Scalia. Farad Scalia. That's it. Thank God, I'm personally. But I get it where we're interested in, because of the lack of English players, editors and news, most have seen something good about them. They know what is the best option. Yeah, I'm not saying they don't know what the best option is. And listen, they may well go on soil and Anthony Garden, right? All I'm saying is, I'll just give more opinions that I don't like. That's all. Um, well, I see- Amir, can I just say as well, the majority of people that are going mad to sign this chap, Fucking hated them six weeks ago as well. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're not a man. Yeah. So- Yeah. Hey, John says, Everton fans using the Caratail card, saying Newcastle are being forced to sell the best players to keep elite teams together to save the club. Yeah, I've- Can we just talk about this for a second? The Caratail, right? The Red Caratail. Well, you have a fucking day off, right? All these clubs. Are shareholders and stakeholders in the Premier League. They all sign the rules. They all agree to them. They all go along with them. And the reason A, B, R, C are being forced to sell players is because they've spent more money or too much of a percentage of the money that he- The spending- Let me put it very simply here. They got 100 million. They're allowed to spend 70, right? And they're not. They're spending Fucking 80. So, in the rules, you're not going to do that. So, when it comes around to them going, listen, on the tour to June, you need to have- You've all earned 100 million last year. You all need to show us that you've spent 70 million on players, wages, etc, etc, etc. And they all go, fuck. We didn't do that. We're going to have to sell someone here because we broke the fucking rules. So, instead of just hammering you and going, bum, you're done, right? Because they know you're breaking the rules. They give you to a certain date to get it back. It's not a caratail. What it is, is it's just simple fucking economics. The rules that they all saw in, all agree and all vote on, I know being put in place, and they come back and go, "Ah, the caratail." Now, everything have a fucking cheek, by the way. Everything they're currently sitting with 360 million pound worth of debt, or the trade-builder stadium, loiled about the cost of it, loiled about the cost of Covid, and continued to spend somewhere in the region of 86% of their income on wages. When the limit is 70. So, don't give me all this caratail bullshit, right? Yet, what you earn, you can spend a certain amount of it. If you don't earn it, don't spend it. Simple as that. It's not a caratail. It's simply not a caratail, right? And every time somebody comes up and says, "You're in trouble." It's all, "I are only trying to keep the top teams on the top." Trust me, if we're going until tomorrow, when we earn 600 million a year, so we can spend $420 million on whatever, and we spend $400 million, Liverpool would actually be hammered for it. Hammer for it. And not only that, because it's $420 million, as opposed to wherever everything I spend, which is probably half of that, Liverpool would probably look at an even bigger amount of points deductions, because what it looks to me like is from a zero to a certain amount, get your certain amount of points, from say 40 million up, get your another amount of points, like all these caratails are absolutely nonsense, and it's just lazy fucking idiots that talk to us. Well, there's a good comment there from John O'Gaff. It says, "People forget Barcelona. One of the elite cartel had to let Lionel Messi go because of FFE." So there's your cartel having to let their most legendary player leave because they couldn't comply with the rules anymore. What kind of cartel allows that to happen? It's just, it's Everton being upset that rules are being put into place. And like you said, like you think about it, if it's Aston Villa, Forest, Everton, Newcastle, City, Chelsea, that seems like there's about enough teams there to stop these rules from getting put into place. Isn't it? Don't you need 14 out of the 20? That's six. So all you need to do is flip one more vote, and you can keep these rules, but they keep putting them into place, and they keep getting stronger. Yeah, but the certain rules that I look, they're there to rules. And then there's other pieces that are coined that does not lay away on the vote. There'll be votes on them. But there'll be certain rules that will be in it. Like that's the fucking real. And it's actually they have to protect football clubs. Exactly. It's not to protect one or two. It's to protect them all. It's to stop them going so far, that they end up literally going to their business. Well, that's what it feels like, yeah, that's what it's going to take. It feels like it's going to take like a blue chip, you know, original founding member club to go broke. Not a brewery or, you know, some team that's playing in the conference league north or something like that. It's going to take a team that's been in and around the Premier League in recent memory to go broke. And, you know, if it's Everton, it might have to be Everton because they're running their business poorly. They're running their business poorly. And it's easy to see from a Liverpool point of view, especially because of all the FSD and FSD out-to-base that we've had to do over the last couple of years. We are run. Excellently. We're run excellently. We're building revenue in a sustainable way. We're spending in a sustainable way. We're not outlandishly paying players. We've got, you know, a set wage structure that comes in, and we're not willing to explode that for anything other than absolute superstar players. You have to be at a most solid level to get 300,000 a week. You don't just get to walk through the front door and be given 300,000 a week sort of thing. That's one of. I'm not saying it's the only way to do it, but that's one way to do it sustainably. But then you look at how teams like Nottingham Forest, all poor Nottingham Forest, we had all these players on loan, and we lost all those players. So we had to sign all those players. Well, yeah, but the only reason you brought all those players in on loan was to ensure that you got promoted. So you took a calculated gamble by bringing all those players in to get promoted. And it paid off, you got promoted, and what's the punishment? You didn't have any fucking players. So you had to go and sign 27 players in your first summers before coming back to the Premier League. And guess what that made you do? That made you be in breach of the spending rules. And guess what happens when you breach rules? You got to pay the piper. It's, I don't know, it's easy to sit here because we're in a very healthy financial position, and we are one of the elite clubs. We have a massive global fan base and huge commercial revenues and stuff like that. So I get that it's hard for fans of other smaller clubs to maybe stomach hearing Liverpool fans or Man United fans or Arsenal fans talk like this. But those are the rules. This is the way to run your club. And I don't want to have to see Everton go broke. I don't want to have to see Nots Forest go broke. And see that city and those fans lose their football club because they have an unscrupulous owner that spends way above their ability. And at the end of the day, if it comes to your club going bankrupt or your billionaire owner losing hundreds of millions of dollars, guess which one it's going to be? Because it ain't going to be the billionaire losing hundreds of millions to keep your football club going. Your football club is going to go broke. And that's what the rules are there for. There are, and the iron, the iron in place for that, they're in place for, and this is why they restrict owners pumping money in. Now, it doesn't, it doesn't apply to Liverpool at all. Because the money, the air owners don't pump money in, and they don't take it out. They run it as a standalone business. All right, it funds itself, it's self-sustaining. You know, and what it does is it stops, like say, Emma torn it up tomorrow, right? And Emma's a billionaire and torn it up and says, "Right, I'm taking our lead, you know it." And I'm going to the Premier League, and I'm going to pump 200 million into lead, you know it. And I'm going to deal with this year, the following year and the year after. Now he's half a billion down, and all of a sudden leads there and I'm very fucking good. What's he going to do? He's not, he's going to stop funding it. And people would say, "Ah, look, but he put 600 in." Yeah, but if they pay for all that, they have to pay all of that. Because if we put 600 million in, you've bought some serious book on players for some serious money, right? That okay, may go, but you still have to pay them. And if he stops us, fund them, right? To get you there, you're in a world of trouble. Look at Abrahamovich. Abrahamovich left Chelsea at 1.6 billion, he lent them. 1.6 billion pounds, he lent Chelsea over the time. People talk about Manchester United during massive debt. Yeah, they are, but he serviced the debt. He serviced the debt and they have a structure in a way that it's actually a way from the operating soil to Manchester United. Because it's a behemoth when they earn his money. They'll never, they can run up debt, right? You're allowed being debt. That's no problem. But the problem is when you can't service that debt and you can't pay players or you're not earning enough to stay under the seven and pay the players and stay under the 70%, that's where the issue comes from. Like Daniel says in the chat, "How many Premier League titles have you won by being careful?" One. One. And I'm absolutely all right with that. Because remember, the six that have been won around us have been one by a team that have, I'm not getting into it. I'm not getting into it. It's the same crowd that I know torn around saying, they feel like they're being hindered because the rules they signed up to is oppressive. Like, come on. You know what I mean? Like, where, where are we meant to go with this? Where are we meant to go with this? Like, when it comes down to this PSR, and I think the biggest people to look, I'm not. If everything, if Chelsea, whoever are doing it, right? If they can get away, fair play to them. Because the Premier League haven't, A, put enough sanctions in place when it's happened last year. And maybe they looked at when Rooker's, it's a transition period, but this is where it really starts. Everyone knows about it. But I guarantee you, if Neil Castle rock up tomorrow with our accounts, and in two weeks time, the Premier League go, listen, use our 80 million over here. We're doing it for three points. We're doing it for six points or nine points. They're straight away going to go, hold on. This team last season, we're over. We've got three. So where are we getting nine? And they go, well, you're three times over. Look, you never, you never pointed that out last season. You just said you were over. Do you know what I mean? So what they've done, what the Premier League have done here is, we're trying to fix an issue, which is admirable, right? I'm possibly the right thing to do instead of doing it over three years. So it goes and letting teams get into all the fucking states. But they're in over every year now. That's admirable. But what they've done last season, right, was they should have turned around and went, listen, this is a transition period. We're given, far less than we're giving evidence in a warning on this. Okay. We're giving them a warning. And boy, boy, on the tour to the June 2024, when that account's going in, if any user over, this is what you're getting. This amount gets you this amount. This amount gets you this amount of points, but they haven't. And teams are taking advantage. And you might not like it, but it's all down to the Premier League. It's all about them being, doing this in an inadequate way. And it's only going to go on and on and on. It's another season of people being sanctioned, possibly. And when the sanctions come, it's going to fucking drag out all season about, you know, we're going to protest against this. We're going to protest against that. And we'll all be sitting here next May gone. Where do people finish the league? Has all these things, are all these things done? That's what it's going to handle. Really, really is it. The pink card printing business in Liverpool, if you want a million dollar business idea, get into printing out pink cards and sell them outside of Goodison next year. Make millions. Yeah. There's going to be a new league table next year, is how many charges did you get off on? Let's see, it'll be top obviously. A new column beside Gold differential. Yeah, look, it's just, for me, they had a huge chance here to put something in place and be very transparent about it. But I know, I know I haven't seen supposed to statement, but trying to statement saying, we watch these transfers, PSR, blah, blah, blah. These all have to be sanctioned by the Premier League. The Premier League have to sanction these transfers. So clearly they go through the sanctions. So you can't turn around then and go, lads that over to the trade. You don't like it. Hold on. You're fucking signed off in the last week. You know what I mean? Makes no sense. Do you know what I mean? It makes no sense whatsoever. Look, it's going to rumble on. Well, you know, in an hour's time, it's the fourth of July, so it may not rumble on. And we just get into the normal transfer window. But we're even seeing like, sky, you know, a banging on about PSR deadlines. They made another deadline day of it. Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Is this what we're at? Is this actually what we're at? But look, Anthony Gordon, I don't know. I think there's better out there. And yeah. Let me just say that John, and I don't want to make it to John Hooscheld, and I was a few who's commented to John Hooscheld. He said something out there earlier on. Emmett, it's what you do when players don't play for you. You hate them and welcome to fandom. There's plenty of players that don't play for Liverpool. They really absolutely love. And some of them even play in the Premier League. You don't have to hate every player that doesn't play for Liverpool. But there are certain players that if Liverpool, I know the sport like Harry Kane absolutely hate me. If we were in for him, I would tell you I hate me when he joined. I would tell you I hate Fernandez. Hate absolutely this boys. It's not a case of if Liverpool then go in and try and buy them all of a sudden, they're going to love him. That's not the way like I will always hate those players. And I'm not, I'm not, I don't hate Anthony Gordon as much as Gav hates him. But I would prefer if we didn't sign him. If we ended up signing them, I'd obviously get behind it. But I don't hate him as much as I did. Gav would get behind him too. No, I wouldn't. Gav would get behind him too. Because I'll tell you why, I'll tell you why, really. Because Gav will solve and wanted to know if you hate Anthony Gordon as much as you dislike Thomas Tuckel. And I think that's a pretty good barometer. No, no, Tuckel's a lot more level like, you know what I mean? He's on another level. But but the team is like, you know, when I look at Anthony Gordon, I'm not saying he's not a good player. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is, I've watched Anthony Gordon for the last couple of years. And I'm looking at him and I'm saying to myself, like, I've often asked myself the question, like, I don't, I know Castle fans are even, I think it's more on New Castle because he's probably a oil pro for there. But I knew everything fans are New Castle fans looking, walking out of that ground well. I love that fucking Anthony Gordon fella. You know, when he blatantly goes down already watching much of the day, they don't know he going, ah, you know, trying to make, and I can't do that. I think when they, I think when he wins him a penalty, I think they're walking out of the ground. Okay, that's right. Right. Because he's our bastard. Yeah, but that's okay. But come here, that's fair enough if he, if he's dares, right? But when, when you're looking at him doing all this stuff, and then he's one of a joyful park club, are you going to, like, are you going to go from he is a dog and prick? I cannot stand them till he's doing it for Liverpool. It's all right. Yeah. Yeah, I probably will. I'm going to, I'll be serious with you. I almost suddenly will. I think the men's gymnastics that people will have to partake in. I'm the fucking Nadia Comanichi of mental gymnastics when it comes to my sports teams. I will flip over any bar you want. Uneven parallel doesn't matter. Yeah, I just, well, it's not for me. It's just not. And, you know, that's just, that's just the way I am. That's just the way I am. Jerry, Jerry asked a good question there. Yeah, um. Cab Emmett, is there any player that we have had or have the last few years that you don't like or you would love to, uh, or you? You are, are you? Are you, are you, are you? Oh, I'm a bit tired. I'm a bit torrid guy. And, you know, a bit stroke or something like that. Fuck's wrong. I was actually spotted myself on the screen there. I thought I looked a bit like Stephen Hawking. Does that lead? No, I don't want to switch. I'll read it for you. Cab Emmett. I'll read it for you. Cab Emmett, is there any player we've had or had the last few years that you don't like? Or did you love them all always? Erm... Did I buy the telly? Do it? No. I was just how bad the telly was a bit mad. But I didn't, like... You see, I think it needs to be. Right, so Antio says, "Come on, guy." He didn't deal with Suarez. I didn't know he was Suarez before he told him a little bit. Right? He was playing with fucking Grannigan and Oix. And I never watched him. It's a bit like Aaron Islam. I've never seen the cunt manage a bleeding game before. I've seen about 11 minutes of a hoylut because I sat here one night with Kev and Steve Morphy. And we all took on the hoylut at the same time where we were yapping away. That's it. I didn't know Antio knew he was Suarez. Yes, he was mad. Yes. Like, he was biting people. But when he bites someone you kind of drunk all, "Ah, he's the crack, isn't he?" He's not. He's biting the fucking people. He's biting people. And the funny thing is, right? The people go on about, you know, you know, he's the best player I've ever seen. He's the best we've ever had. And he's a fucking brilliant football, brilliant football. But people conveniently forget that little Suarez was training on his own and doing articles with the telegraph. Telling you how he wanted to live up here. He felt betrayed by live up here. Wanted to. He wanted to ask him. Wanted to this. Tornsback up has the best season you've ever seen. And people went just completely forgot about it. Then goes and bites someone at the woke up and seals him over where he live up here because of it. Like, you know what I mean? Like Suarez was a genius, right? But if he, if I didn't know Suarez, like, I've already been watching Suarez every week, falling over. I've got to say this, fucking. And then he tones up with us and he continues to fall over. Like, that's just the way I am. I'm sorry. It's the way I am. I'm probably wrong. Maybe. I don't know. I'm not as good as the barter of everybody else. I don't know. But for me, Anthony Gordon, unless he turned up a live up hole, I was flying and just took that over the game. I promise you, we're in a couple of weeks, people will be gone. I don't know. I think they might be able to touch their hole on him in a six months ago. And he's playing in black and white. You were calling him a dog even barter. You know what I mean? And maybe that's just, maybe that's just people's frame of mind. But he's not for me. He's not for me. And that's okay. He might sign and he won't be for me. Like Daniel says, but you love Suarez when he played with him. Yeah. Because I didn't watch fucking Ajax or Granigan or whatever he was playing for. And don't pretend that he is dead. He's fucking didn't know. He didn't know who he was. This fell at home when he went. Towards the end, no gab. After the shit that he did, the Evra, the biting, the wanting to leave for Arsenal. Towards the end, I'll say like after he left, it hurt for a little bit. But then it was like, holy shit, he was. That's a cunt. Like that guy was like, he was brilliant. But holy shit, if he hadn't played for Liverpool, if he had played for Arsenal, you would have hated Luis. Yeah, but you would. Also, a game wouldn't have wanted to join him for Arsenal. No, no, you wouldn't. This is what I'm saying. But if you do, you get on board with him. Yeah, but then he goes to Barcelona. He doesn't start beating people, does he? No, I think he was a good boy there. Yeah. But he got the overbite fix, maybe. Do you know what I mean? And the thing is like, Barcelona fans, maybe it's because it's in the same league. Do you know what I mean? Like, let me put it this way. If Bruno Fernandez was moving to Liverpool tomorrow. Fuck that, fuck. There you go. No. There you go. Yeah, why? Because everything about him I don't like. I don't think he tries. That's the biggest thing for me. The difference between Anthony Gordon, who's a little bit of a cheat, tries to scam a penalty in a card here and there. A lot of players do that. Bruno Fernandez doesn't try. He doesn't try. And that can be- I think Bruno Fernandez possibly has one of the highest levels of running in the Premier League. Forward. Just not back on defense. I think he may have distance covered. I think he might be in the- I'm gonna say the top 4% in the Premier League. I want you to go and check that out. Another one that I didn't like was Joffe. Joffe, I hate Joffe. Yeah, I didn't like Joffe. Never liked him. Never liked him. Um, no, I'm not gonna say I never liked him. I did like him when he arrived at Liverpool. But as soon as he spit, I think it was the Celtics of horror. That was it for me. I was like, the players got away from the football club. Um, there was a couple that I didn't like. Um. Do you know what I've started at this league? Can I interrupt him? I actually really liked him. He was sixth. In this league. In total distance covered. Ward Prowse, who was asking- I've met a player who was in there. Bruno Guimarez and Pedro Poro, then Bruno Fernandez. He was sixth. He was three or four hundred players in the team in the league though. And he plays every game. Bruno Fernandez does not get injured. He plays every single game. Yeah, well, this is what I'm saying like. So- There's a few that have started at this league since they've played for Liverpool. So, I've found a bit of a dislike for Enrique now. Uh, Enrique. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, me too. Me too. Stop, pal. Me too. And then there's like, I won't mention others because people look at me in a different way. But some of them do be on commentary and like they try and not be biased towards Liverpool to so much so that they are nearly fucking against Liverpool. And you're like, Jesus, Jesus Christ, the negative. Like, oh, Phil- I always laugh. Do you know who I always am? Phil Thompson, he used to wreck my head on Saturday. No, do you know who I always laugh at? Listen to Clementine about Liverpool. Runny wheel. Ah, stop. Hate football. Like, literally, literally- No, I don't even want to be hate football. I just think he's the soil. The team I played in was the best. And no one will ever come closer. And, like, even it will beat someone five-nil day in Liverpool. You know what I mean? You just hate it. But, no, look, that's just my personal opinion. I don't know if it's so heavy in Liverpool. I wouldn't have him. If he saw himself in Liverpool, I still wouldn't like him. I just wouldn't like him. No, don't get me wrong. If he was six months into it. And he wasn't falling all over the ground ago. Do you know what? I've been proven wrong. But honestly, I couldn't bring myself. Three weeks into a Liverpool career, where he doves on the ground, gets booked for it, and Liverpool fans are trying to make out that. No, he didn't deserve that show. Why would Anthony- poor Anthony do that? And I'm going to go on lads. Will the players stop? Do you know what I mean? Take the blade and red tint the glasses off. Like, you should do exactly what he's doing and what you hate him for six months ago. So, that's where I am. I think there's better options than him. I think there's better players than him. And for the price that's being called, I think there's definitely better options than Anthony Guard. Did somebody say earlier that he only has one year left on his contract? No, I wouldn't say so. Couldn't they? He only joined them last year, didn't he? Are they here before? January of the year before, I think, maybe, when the South first took over to him? Yeah. Yeah, I'd say he probably has three years left on his own. Two or three, yeah? Yeah, of course. So they definitely will be looking for the 80, close to the 80. Oh, yeah, look. He's not, and there's no danger looking to be in. You know, we're not in a trend Alexander Ireland situation here, where, you know, he's less than 12 months left in the jail now, from tomorrow. He's less than 12 months on a deal, and in my opinion, we'll leave it if I could just try and get out there. But, you know, we know he's nowhere near a situation, as of now. Pre-season, Monday, other lads back in. Few of them that left the auras early. I don't think they look so sad as well in others. Yeah, they're getting extra couple of weeks I'd say. So you probably see them mid-July. And they're looking forward to the, you know, I'd say you all love an Emma. I'd say you all love them. Wait for the content to come out now. Literally, before you said that, I was like, I'll be sitting waiting on tomorrow morning and see who arrives. Yeah, no, I always look forward to it. Look forward to see who's going to win the, who wouldn't they? Watch Carl out there. I was sub-slowed one of last year. Wasn't there? Lactic test. The lactic test. Oh, you're right. Robl, Robl had won six years prior every year sitting for the- Milner. Milner. Milner. Milner, what'd I say? Camilla here. And obviously, you could even see it in the players. That got me excited last year. And I was watching the content and you could see that the lads were actually blown away with. Obviously. And I think he could still have kept going even when everybody else had finished. Well, they're all prick in the ears and all that kind of stuff. Normally what happens is when I go in holidays, the transfer starts. So that's what I look forward to. Lying in. Have six in the morning. Keep me bed. Don't care if you don't want- You don't want people to do it. Or you do it. Because most quiet is time of the holiday. Have six in the morning. Down on the beds. Coffee. Air phones. Watching content. Peace. Quiet. I don't put the hotels down and leave. The boys stay there. It's more quiet to him. And that's when I get in most of the content. What I'm weird about. Oh yeah, well, well, here you go. Come here. You know, I'm a weird over this stage. Yeah, I do. You're looking for all the pre-season. All the contents. We're still about- Three or four weeks waiting the fourth candle, right? Me. Then the July 27th. That's okay. If we get anything as good as- I think it was the very first day of pre-season last year. They had that clip where Henderson was in, getting his measurements all done. And Rob all came in and went, whoa, look at you. It was the funniest soccer thing I've ever seen. And then it all went to shit because Henderson left in the storm of animosity for Saudi Arabia. But it was great. I can't wait for it. I was happy enough waking up the other morning to like 100 messages on WhatsApp and 200 in the telegram about a potential Anthony Gordon swap move. It was just nice to get some Liverpool news back in. Because it has been unbelievably quiet. We had the little flurry of Arna's slot first media sort of availabilities. And then it's gone quiet again. So it's been over a month now. It's been five, six weeks since we've had just a barrage of constant Liverpool stuff. So I've pretty much stopped listening to all other podcasts because there's not much to talk about. Like it's just people speculating about absolute nonsense. Oh, you would be good for us. You would be good for us. Yeah. Nobody knows anything. Like it's something. Inca might have been Avo or one of the old timers in the chapter saying like we have no idea who's going to be good in the Arna's slot system because none of us really have any idea of what that's going to look like. And that's very, very exciting. The only caveat I'll put on that though, Gav. And I'll say I finally, finally got some understanding of why you Irish lads hark back to italian 90 so much. Because damn, there is something about your team going to a fucking big tournament because I am all on board Canada, baby. I was up last night watching Canada in the most boring-- Is that Jesse Marsh's oldest? Jesse Marsh is a footballing genius. Let me tell you. He is terrible in England, but he's the greatest manager that the Canadian men's team has ever seen. And I actually mean that because he has got us playing fucking football. It is brilliant. We're out of the fucking groups in the Copa America. We're probably going to play Venezuela. We could go to the semi-finals of the Copa America. And it is lovely. It's lovely. I totally get this major tournament. Nationalism stuff now. I'm not a nationalist. It's great to see you keeping us new feet on the ground anyway, man. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Jesse Marsh is an American living-- We could literally be-- Yeah, I'm fine with it. We could literally-- No, no, I'm just going to say there are kind of similarities there because we obviously had an English manager when we went to these tournaments. Now, you've got an American manager managing the Canadian, sir. Yeah. No, it's great. I'll get on board with that. That's why I'm going to nice is on it. Can I-- boy, you can't have the Jesse on mud. They're a bit fucking hideous. I'm not going to lie to you. They honestly look like the most knock off Nike jersey. They don't want to get you one for Fox with. Yeah. They're really not good, but our team is actually-- Listen, come here. We are with Steve Wolf again today. And the four-cup hole there were four jerseys there. I was biker. I don't know what he was doing. I don't know whether he was just keeping them in his body just in case they're his favorites or something. Or he was just trying to sell them. I don't know what was going on. Every time I looked at them, he's dipping jersey, going out the bag. You're actually all right, isn't it? I'll sell them, man. I'll be in pass. So look at the quality of them and all that. I was like, oh, god, that's what they get appointed. Anyway, I think that's the barrier for us. We've talked down to the garden pre-season. It's on the way starting tomorrow. We've talked on PSR. We've drawn a few names around there. We've talked about the Galte. The link is in the description for our fundraiser. If you want to support the Phil Banks and the Loy House, please do so every euro, every pound, wherever you're traveling there, it all counts. And the one Phil is doing for Laurel in as well. As I always say, if you have a tenor, draw a forward to us and a forward to Phil. Bow links are there. Very, very good causes. Phil is doing exceptional stuff to get through these challenges. He has set himself and we are trying our best to help. Like I said, fans of our support and Phil Banks and the Loy House. So check it out if you can donate, great. If you can't share it on with your family or friends and their colleagues wherever it might be. Traveling out WhatsApp, bringing in to walk, throw the link up on everyone's desk and say, "Listen, lads are in our help and there's everyone traveling, quitting or wherever it might be." And that will help us. But that's about it. For the rest of the week, I haven't embraced the Zongongong holiday on Tuesday for a week. So sometime tomorrow, I go on to all the lads. I'll try to organize a few showers during the week. And then we go from there. So yeah, that's better. All shows this week will be free on YouTube for the simple reasons. They won't really get to download this week 'cause I won't be here. So anything going out this week will be for everybody for this week only. And then we'll be back next week. I mean, we'll be back on our normal schedule, podcast and everything else. Anything else before we go? - No, not at all. I mean, if there's any other Canadians out there, I hope everybody has a happy Canada Day, which is tomorrow and I guess to our American friends we're not on before then, happy 4th of July to go along with that. But yeah, good weekend, good weekend. Hopefully, I mean, it would have been better if England lost today and gone out 'cause it looks like the Americans are gonna go out of the Copa America and Canada is absolutely fine. - Don't know what it is. Yeah, I'm upset over the Americans 'cause I'm just a dog, the American commentary for all American games. It's new face. - Well, they're still gonna be doing it, but they'll have to get all behind Canada now. - No, no, but it's like American on the American. You know, it was just like-- - I'm getting an idea how good Christian was. - I'd do it again, Panamet was just phenomenal stuff. And the thing you do now is they like have like, they had P-A-N up the top for Panamet. One, USA, one, right? And then there was a red little block above America. So you know, we're looking at it. Oh, it's making up like that. - It's often embarrassing, isn't it? - And this banner just comes up on the screen and Roy underneath the thing, down to 10 men. And you're like, yeah, the red block tells me that, but you just keep flashing this up. - It brings another banner underneath that. It says down to 10 men and it says, USA have been down to 10 men since the 22nd minute. - Yeah, just kept going on and on and on about it. And it was like, and then there was a ball in, to the box, and yeah, man Robinson, I've fallen. Pushed it, it's got into the goalkeeper, but it gave back a claim there. And it was like, oh, oh, that's a bad one. And yeah, man was like, I think it might be his knee. And then the man was like, nah, I'm not too sure. I think it might be a shoulder. And then it was like, they'll look like a shoulder. And then it was like, yeah, man, I don't think it was. Yeah, man, I'm not far as torn or as I think torn. I know like, turn this guy up in this game. He has a contusion, a contusion on his leg. And I was like, this isn't fucking ER. You got down there. He has a bruise. Like, it's a bruise me, right? And they were like, yeah, I thought it was, it might have been that. And they were like, you're fucking lying bastards. You said shoulder half an hour ago, you fucking said ankle. And it was nothing to do with it. But it's so fucking great. Like, it's so great. And they were like, yeah, man, Timmy Dwey got sent off. And I go, oh, it just looks like a bit of a clash there. Next, I just told him, I'm out to the head of the fella, get to the red card. And I go, you cannot do that. You cannot do that. You're shouting at that. It's so fucking good. It's just-- Your American accent is my favorite thing in the world. All I want is for you to do American comms on a match. The morning five minutes down, 45 minutes down. Oh, yeah, man said, 45 minutes down, 45 minutes to go. I heard him say it the other night. I almost pissed myself last night. So good. And they just don't give up. I was like, yeah, man, score them. Yeah, man, Balagan scored, right? Lovely guy on the left foot, crossed the keeper top. Look at the shot from the weak left side. Just kisses the post on the way in, kisses the upright. Yeah, like, oh, my God, what a fucking thing, you know? Absolutely fantastic. It's just-- it's just so fucking good. It's just-- We're catching up. I've seen it in the commentary. I've seen it in years behind. But I'd say when the commentary on other countries, it's not as good. It's just-- there's a mix of commentary and like, you know, natural-- Yes. Yeah, like-- Want the win. Americans love nothing more than America. Oh, it's so fucking good, you know? And then you're my god. The best of fucking best of ever, really? That America, we're under the cautional second half, right? Under the cautional fucking panama, just pinging it around, pinging around. America, get a breakaway, chip to the back post, poor fucking, what's his name? The fella that's meant to be from Dallas Police from Mexico. Petty, petty-- what's his name? Pepe. Pepe. And it comes to the back post, really, and he goes there. And he goes, Pepe, all right. And so he goes, what a chance for team America, right? And next thing, next thing, right? Next thing he goes, the ball breaks out because that was-- because out of it, and your mind goes, that's the chance. That's the chance. That's lit up the stadium again. It's got this crowd going again. And next tomorrow, it comes to this game and the fucking crowd. And she's just standing there staring into space. And I was like, you couldn't have picked a world person to stay there to use out that's saying them with them, like uttering them words. It was, ah, it was fucking so fucking good. And I was just like, this is amazing. And then he went back on the guard. I was like, ah, it doesn't matter. It's just being a fucking wonderful night. It's just so fucking good. I just love it. I absolutely love it. I absolutely love it. It was so fucking good. It was a lot of peace as well. The physio, come on, and he goes, he's part of the-- I can't remember the words of yours, right? But instead, it's just calling this part of the physio. He's part of the fitness system team. And I was like, what? And he was like, OK, here he is on now. The fitness system team having a look at Turner here. And he goes, oh, he doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. And then I think I was like, he means the physio, no? And then I was like, what the fuck is going on here? It was fantastic. Anyway, I'm sorry for going on, right? I'm sorry for going on. And I'm not having to go on Americans. I'm not. I'm not doing my care, those care of hates Australia. I love America. It's just the difference in commentary when you see someone commentating on their own country is where it's just fucking fantastic. And it's absolutely brilliant. And then ads of cars about Ford, F-150s, Broncos, all that stuff, do anything. And then some restaurants in America are doing like these. They look like cupcakes, but there's mac and cheese in them. And I'm kind of remembering that. Oh, it's pizza pizza. That's pizza pizza. Is that? Yeah, that's pizza pizza. Yeah. That looks like a determination. I'm loving the ads. Love the fucking ads. It's amazing. So, yeah, that's where I am on the carpet. Don't give a bollocks here wins out. I just want the America to stay in it as long as possible. But I have a question. They've got to be Uruguay, so-- The MLS. The MLS deal is sort of common to me. I don't watch a ton of MLS. OK, the MLS have actually got British people coming and taking on them every time live. Because they want to be a serious league, they do. If you're serious about the sport, like Canada is, you get in any two, three people with accents you can find. But you know what else I'm loving? You know what else I'm loving, right? Kevin Kilban, and what's his name? Stephen Caldwell. Stephen Caldwell, right? So I think I've said this before. Stephen Caldwell, right, gets asked a question. But I can't remember the guy who's asking the questions. He doesn't matter. He's irrelevant. So he asked Stephen Caldwell a question, and he does this, right? So he looks towards Kevin Kilban to the side. He says, well, you know, the way things are going. And what he does is he swings down and looks straight down the camera in front of him. Like, he's trying to get you to join a cult, right? And he just keeps talking to you, right? And just does a meal. And I think he's got this from Bo Chairman, that used to do with a girlfriend's toy, because he used to stay there on the camera as well, right? But then what's happening is it's fucking catching on, because Kilban is starting to do it now as well. So Kilban is talking away, and he was like, yeah, you know, and then we just keep locking onto you, right? He just keeps locking onto this camera in front. And it's fucking amazing. And it was just like Kevin Kilban, and like, you know, Kevin Kilban's just over there. And this is the job, like, you know what I mean? I could say anything here that I was just going to think, yeah, she'll have said it. - He's got an accent. He's got an accent. He calls it football. He must know what he's talking about. Yeah, it's... - His nickname is Zinedine and Kilban as well, so... - This is what I have to deal with with Canadian soccer, soccer coverage, is this is the best of the best that we can get a Steven Caldwell and Kevin Kilban. It's, yeah, Jerry's not a right. - Kilbane moving to Canada is the best thing ever in half. - He has a deal there. I'd say he's just gone all over for the kappa. How's the other? - No, he does. He's done all of our footy for 10 years. - Oh, how's that? - Caldwell and Kilbane have been the guys for a decade. - Oh, how do I just tell you this? - How does he still be, just beyond the after-ball as well? The actual time, doesn't he? - Does he be on the? I don't know, I don't watch that. - I don't know, he's in the studio in Toronto. Like, honestly, Gav, I told you it was a joke, but I think it's serious. When they started covering soccer over here, they went, "Who knows anything about this?" And they heard the first two guys with accents that sounded remotely British, neither of them are British, and they went, "You're on!" - They said, "We're gonna cross over to Kevin now, and we're gonna cross over to Kevin and Stephen for their team at the tournament." They picked before the tournament began. - Oh, boy, Jesus, right? - I'm terrible. - If you can look at it, Kilbane had England's front three. He had England's front three as his front three that were his team at the tournament. - Oh, fucking good. And it was so fucking good. And it was like, two teams came up on it, and I was like, "What the fuck is this?" And they were like, "These are the teams we picked before the tournament started." And I'm like, "Oh, man, this is a ball." And then, you know what he had to name to say? He went, "Quit, happy with me, Tim." Man, one or two changes. - I sent him into the chat, did he not? - Huh? I think he did it one stage. - I sent him into the chat. - Yeah, for them. - Yeah, and listen, if you don't do anything else, if you don't do anything else for the summer, right? America play Uruguay, I think, on Monday, so tomorrow night. - Yeah, when I be into Tuesday. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Late tomorrow night. Please, just go. - Yeah, when I am for you guys. - Go and watch this. Like, just go, I'm watching. Just sit back. Don't worry about what Scarra matches. Take it all in. And it's the only time I'll ever give you this advice. Take it in from the soonest his broadcast ads. Roy Chouda, Roy Chouda fucking, Roy Chouda. - If anything, don't watch the game. Watch the free match. - Roy Chouda has to watch on TSN, isn't it? - TSN, TSN in Canada. - Or Fox Sports out of the States. 'Cause yeah, we get the American commentators, the same thing, the doctor that comes on to explain the referee's decision. And he's always so late that the referee has come on. And 'cause they're doing it at the Copa, they're doing it like NFL does, where the referee comes on, explains the decision only in fucking Spanish though, because all the referees are from South America. So the referee comes on and he's like, (speaking in foreign language) and then they move on, and then they bring this doctor and then he's like, yep, he's got nothing to say. - It's just the worst. - How you saying it? - You guys complain about Chouda. - Here's your commentary team for tonight, right? And it was like, here's your commentary team for tonight. And next of all, these four boxes, what was like, it was like, fucking, they had docked our Nick Riviera down the bar. I was like, this is fucking messing. Like, it's just little things that just are brilliant in it. But yeah, go and check it out, watch it. I'm watching from the minute the fucker broadcast starts, Roy through the Marlton. Like, where do you think this game will be won in last? Well, I think the midfield are maybe the final third. And I'm like. - Top of the six, top of the six. - No, it's big, he's got to get that shot on frame. Like, I'm sorry, on frame is, it's not a thing. Nobody's ever said on frame, it's on goal. - Nobody says on frame, these fucking American guys. - I'm tempted to do an MLS game now, and just me commentating on it. - Please, please, I'll buy another subscription to the channel if you're going to do that. - Yeah, hello, I'm Roy Troy. But anyway, go and watch TSN, America vs. Uruguay, watch it from start to finish, pick up all the ads at half time, it's fantastic. Like, if someone gets sent off, prepare yourself, it's just blazing on the screen. Like, at every fucking given moment, he can't wait to get on the screen. But yeah, it was so fucking good. Anyway, that's it, we're done. Sorry about that, the end. - I'm gonna try and make it, well, what would be better, Jamaica and Venezuela or Mexico? - Ecuador, Mexico, Ecuador, Mexico, winner goes through. - Okay, that's right. - And so if, because the winner of that group is who Canada plays, so Venezuela is on six, Ecuador and Mexico are on three points. So if Jamaica beats Venezuela, Ecuador beating Mexico means Canada would play Ecuador, but Mexico would have to kick the shit out of Ecuador to overturn the goal differential, 'cause I think it's plus two, plus one, minus one, minus three or something like that. So Jamaica were terrible, but Ecuador and Mexico will be the game to watch because it's winner go home for that group. - Yeah, well, there you go. It doesn't matter, Canada's winning the Copa America, it's all that matters. - Yeah, there you go. - Really, whatever here, I've enjoyed that immensely, especially in the last 20 minutes where Americans commentating on American sports is just the fucking greatest thing I've all done. Where they talk to you soon, look over there. - Or social podcast network.
