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Download the Experian app. Results will vary, not all subscriptions are eligible, savings are not guaranteed, paid membership with connected payment account required. MUSIC Hello, good evening and welcome to the Talking Cup on Gav. We are here with a show on Euro 2024 as the last round of group games are on the way, and some of them are on the way. I'm joined by actually, and I'm joined by Kev, and we're a little bit late because we're all just kind of reacting or relaxing after. Italy absolutely robbed the draw off Croatia, which was phenomenal. I can't remember the fella's name that scored. I don't know what he said when he came on, but I thought it was something like... I could have sworn he said he was banned for about 7 months and came back to the end, but maybe injured. Was it banned? Ben, yeah, Ben. He came back to the game for you, and he said, "I think it's him anyway, it might not be him." Well, it was a fella come on in the game, and he said he was banned for 7 months, but he picked him anyway. So, we're going to have a little look at the games tonight. We're going to look forward to the remainder of the group games, and then, you know what, we might try a couple of players that are impressed us, or who we think might win, whatever we want to do. I don't know who plays who. I'd say, like, you know, you need a mathematician to walk out who's going to play here in this corner. But that's where we're going to go. Actually, Italy, on the way to Croatia holding on, Madrich beside himself with nerves. Califiori Desoids, I'll just run through here and play a couple of one-tills, get it out of the fella that was betting for ages. I'm worth finishing for him, still. I think his name is Zikani. I don't know if that's pronounced right. Yeah, probably about what that sounds as good as I'm going to do on here. That was his first goal for Italy. So, good time to score that. I didn't see that coming. I thought for sure they were going out. I thought we were going to have a whole, actually, I don't even know if they were going to go out with three points, but I thought the story was there for, you know, Italy collapse again. But, yeah, what a kick in the teeth for poor Madrich. I really thought that that was going to be his Cinderella moment. Yeah, absolutely madly. They take off Madrich, who, of course, missed the penalty earlier in the game and a minute later, scores. And I think, right, just ten minutes to go, or whatever, it was about ten minutes to go when he comes off, but then the addy. And every couple of minutes, they're just cutting to the dugout, and he's sitting there, and his nerves are gone, he's talking, he's biting his jersey, he's doing everything. But what a finish by Italy. And in fairness, the sum about Italy, where you think these focus will do it, because their mentality is ridiculous. It is, but you look at Croatia. Croatia have that vast amount of experience when it comes to getting through groups. They just always seem to have enough. I remember when we were doing the preview to all of this. I didn't think Croatia had it. I thought there was too many of those players that were over the hill on the slide, but as the clock kept ticking down, I was just kept in. They just know how to do this. You know, there's enough quality and experience on the pitch. Then he started making silly changes. I couldn't understand. He took off your man, who was a Covidage, and left Brozevich on. I just thought that was a weird one. And it's like instantly set up for the draw. They started at 5-3-2, and they were quite content, quite happy. Nothing was really happening in the game, until the goal. And they were monitored, you know, and missed a penalty. You had done a room that went from here out to the villain in about 30 seconds. And then it was all hands to come for Italy, because outside they were going to go through anyway, you know, as one of the best four best third place teams. Easy, yeah. That could have thrown up all kinds of chaos in the next round. Because they would have come up against one of the stronger nations early. But Croatia would have gone through. And Zachary Giannis, the guy whose name. It was a beautiful finish, but it came at him at the perfect angle. All he had to do was open his body and time it. That's all he had to do. Didn't have to hit the back off the ball or anything. You open his body up and timed it in. It was a beautiful finish. And to be fair, I thought the Croatia keeper had a really good night. I thought he had a really good game. He was impressed a lot actually. But all in all, I think over the three games, I've enjoyed watching Italy. And even in the Spain game where Spain dominated the ball, it was only an old goal that got the win. I think there's a lot more of come from Italy, but the thing is, I think they're struggling. They're missing a number nine. And there's a few sides in this tournament where you look at them. The difference between having a number nine, the likes of Germany was full crook that can come off the bench and affect games and score goals. And Italy with Schmacher's got in no kind of form. And the difference, it's a marked difference between the two. And there's a few sides like that. I thought in fairness, when I see Italy against Albania in the worst game and Schmacher was there, I was thinking, I think he's had quite a decent season. We had Atlanta. Really good, he's never put around field. And he was really, I thought he was really good in the Europa League final as well. But the thing is, I'm not too sure they played the suit. I don't think they put an awful lot of ball in the box. They're looking for Kiese, Barela, and others to play angles around the box. You know, nearly score perfect goals. And I think Schmacher is a bit more old-school where I put it in there. And he's technically a player, but I think he wants to be in there finishing. But having said that, Kiese knocks a brilliant one across the box in injury time. And I don't know what he's doing. He's literally going to go beyond them before he tries to get it. But yeah, it may come to haunt him, but the only thing I would say is that Italy, for me, I think Barela's being poor. I don't think he's taken again on the control. Bare, Albania. I think he was anonymous against Spain. They mostly don't wear it. But even to me, even to me, I thought in my Barela, it's kind of, if Italy are on top, he looks at Rolls Royce. When they're not on top, I think he's a bit touchy. He gives frees away. Physically, I think Croatia got the better of them. But Italy are going to this now gone, you know, cat with nine lures or whatever you want to call it. And for me, they will go in and go, "You know what? If we come up against Spain again, we'll probably do the same as what we've done during the week." But we'll make sure we attack a little bit more, because when they actually got out of Spain, they had some chances. Yeah. Actually, go on, Tev. Well, I said, the one thing that impressed me with Italy was the centre-back pairing, Bastoni and Califiori. But he's missing for the next game. He's got a second booking, so he's going to be missing for the next game. It's going to be interesting to see what to do with that. But Bastoni looks very good there. But Bastoni's not much older. I think it's about 23 or 24 or something like that. He's not that much older. But the two of them as a partnership, Bastoni playing right-sided as a left-footed player. It just looks so easy and so natural for him. He looks a proper defensive leader. I mean, if he stays in Italy, fine, but whoever decides to put money down for him, it's going to take a serious amount of cash to get him out of it. The star is only Royce, as this tournament goes on. Bastoni and Califiori, I think Bastoni's is very well known. But I think doing it on this stage always brings you up a level, but Califiori, yeah, the star is Royce and all the time. You'll probably see him staying in Italy. Who's your belonging? Yeah, you're progressing and getting me over in Italy, because that's what usually what I'd hide in the fairness deal is to stay there. Actually, when you look at that group, Spain will come out with three wins from three. I look completely impressive throughout our unfairness. You look at Italy, go on through, and Croatia won't, they'll go through, because there's a goal difference. It's worse than it's a hungry, or one of them does somebody down there that had two points I've seen them earlier. But coming out of that group, you're not going to want Spain in the next round as a runner up or a tour place from somewhere. But I don't think you're going to want Italy either, because Italy are a team that can just frustrate you and frustrate you and frustrate you. And the mentality to go, yeah, we'll just play 120 minutes and just go with penalties, no problem. Yeah, I mean, they're set up to defend Italian players, too, and that's what they did today. I think over the course of the three games, sorry, I think over the course of the three games, they were more impressive than Croatia. I think they deserve to go through. And I think they face Switzerland, I think is probably their next opponent, if they finish second in the group. So I think they'll actually, like, they'll fancy themselves against Switzerland. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think Spain was clearly the most impressive one out of that group. I mean, they were playing their entire second string today and barely looked like they got out of first gear. I mean, the goal that they scored was beautiful. And I think, I don't know, I think they're the ones in my book that are the ones to be. Sorry. I think Spain are the ones to be in my opinion so far. I like the look of Spain. I just think France just seemed to be sitting there pouring in second gear and could possibly go through a couple of gears as well. But we're going to have a minute. I'm just looking up the knockouts now. Yeah. Like, Spain pay a toward play. How did you walk out? Like, so you have a group winners, right? Yeah. But some of them play the toward best teams and some of them play second in the group. How did he walk that out? Is that just? The age of six. Six winners. Right? Yeah. But say the forced, the forced in group D plays second in group F, right? But forced in group E play toward, the toward plays team. Yeah. And then you have Germany play a second place team. And I think, but it's part of the top of the group, they play a toward play. Like the six, what I'm saying is the six group winners, but there's only four, four places. There's only four toward plays teams. So how did you decide out of those six, which four get the toward plays teams? Did you get me like, is that just? Yeah. I think it must have been decided at the, at the start when the draw was made. So they literally set out that form and then whatever group you're drawn into. That's what you fall into. That's what you fall into. But yeah, the Switzerland Italy is the five o'clock kickoff on Saturday in Berlin. There'll be two games Saturday. Switzerland Italy will be the first game. The second game will be Germany against someone that hasn't been decided yet. You see, there'll be Germany against whoever comes second in group C. Yeah. But looking at moving on to tomorrow's, actually I stayed with you tomorrow's groups. We start with the Netherlands top the group, France and second, Austria and toward Poland are bottom one go show. Unless they win tomorrow. I suppose, yeah, no, they need a big win tomorrow. Oh, but look at this group, you know, France play Poland. So you strongly fancy France to win that. But it's a real winner takes all I think between Austria and Holland because if Holland come out in the soil, it will be played for the draw. You know, you can see what happens. The Giddly get away with tonight. But if the Netherlands come out to play for a draw, it still goes to the best toward place. But that throws you all over the place. I said I've been impressed with France, but Holland top that group. One of you thought of Holland and even Austria to Auschwitz. Um, like it's not, they're not a team that's really wowed me. I, I think there's, there's moments of brilliance. I think like Gackpo has shown that in the national team, he has a special kind of confidence that he doesn't have quite yet at Liverpool, probably through lack of game time and professional change. Um, so he's, he's exciting. Um, I mean, I think France are playing well beneath where they can be. I mean, I don't even think they've gotten out of first gear in general. I think it'll be interesting if I think it looks like Mbappe will play. Um, I mean, at least he, I think he was in like a close behind closed doors friendly the other day and scored a load of goals. Um, so I don't think there's any issue with him playing. So I think that will set France, I mean, I would assume France will top the group. I think Netherlands will probably come second. Um, I don't know, Austria, bit of a wild card. So we'll see. It, um, kind of, you know, the way it stands, these three teams could go through. Three point teams, good enough to get you through as a, as a best toward place. Um, I don't know if that's right, was best toward place finishes or one of whatever way you want to pull it. But how big is it for even France or the Dutch to go and go? Yeah, we've topped that group. Just as a conferencing. Like, how big is it for Holland to turn around and go? Yeah. Tough group for Austria. Uh, you know, how good France are, you know, um, runners up in the World Cup and stuff like that. How big would it be for the Dutch to go? Yeah, we topped that group. I think it'd be massive for Holland considering they were in the same qualifying group. As France. And the French got the better of them over the qualifying period. And look, there was plenty of needle in that game. The two countries don't like each other. And, you know, so it wouldn't, it would be great for them. But to be honest, the Netherlands are another one of those sides were desperately missing a proper striker. You know, Memphis to probably is not the number nine that you'd hang your hat on. And to be fair, Austria on the Ragnick are very organized. They're aggressive enough. They're competent. And there are some good players. They don't have any standout world class superstars. But they have a very good unit. And I think in Conrad Limer, he's been very good. Battle in midfield tomorrow. That'd be a great game to watch. Because the battle in midfield will be what decides it. And the Netherlands have been good in midfield. You man, the young kid is unknown from PSG in Germany. I can't remember his name. Young skinny, weedy kid. But. Oh, come to me in a second. It's quite a list. Javi Simmons. Javi Simmons, yeah. He looks really, really, he looks quality. If he's allowed to get on the ball and take the ball, carry it. And bring others into play. Him and Gatbo could have a real good game. It would be interesting to see what he does with Germany for him as well. Because he started the last game. But with France, I think he, when they were defending, the Netherlands drifted back into like a back-bripe. But when he got on the ball, he was trying to bump forward. And it just didn't quite work. So what the Netherlands do on the right? With their right winger. Let's see what happens. But yeah, this is, I think, genuinely, I think Austria could do them. They've got that in them, I think, that organization that they could nickel and then they could play on the break. So this is very interesting. They could nickel and then they could play on the break. So this is far from a gimme, for the Netherlands, to be honest. Yeah, I think we're, I agree with John on the Holland, the Netherlands, the Dutch, wherever you want to put it. I agree with John on Memphis Topoy. I think Memphis Topoy is in it because, I don't know, is he going to free kicks or something like that? Because he's still not from for me. You know, he's up there with a hand band on with number 10 on it, which is weird. You know, he goes off Vampirse as their top scorer of all time. I get that. But he's had a long career. Yeah, I'm looking at this tournament that I'm thinking to me, sadly. I think he missed a couple of chances in the opening game against, I was watching it. I was quite a half watching it while I was having a point. And he missed quite a few chances. But I think he was a Poland. He played in that opening game. Yeah. Yeah. And then I watched him against the French, and I taught Roy for his experience. You know, is he going to pull off these center halves, pull wood, try to overload with gakbo, try to do the same with Fringpong? You know, is he going to be going to change with Javi Simmons? Has he got, and he didn't. He stood up front against two center halves, and every time I came near him, I bounced off. And the thing that worries me a little bit about the Dutch is that if you're going to have a forward like that, you need your right and left attackers to be killers. You know, it's a little bit like when Liverpool had Firmino, who wasn't considering anyone else, gold scorer. But Manning and Salik were kidding, because they would be getting positions in score loads of goals. I just don't see gakbo as played well after left. But when I look at even Fringpong, like that chance early for Fringpong against France, he breaks through. And a killer takes two touches and comes across the defender and puts himself in on goal. He takes two touches, which brings him away from goal and gives defenders a chance. Yeah. And I don't mind forwards that interplay and stuff like that, but I'm not seeing that from the point. And listen, it might come, but that leaves an awful lot of expectation for me on your right and left side attackers. And I don't know if Fringpong has it. And I don't know if Holland has another one that can play out there that can do that. Don't know about it. Don't know about it. Man is seen as a gold scoring attacker. He's not seen as an assist man. So that might be the thing. But I'm trying to look through the knockout here again. And I think if you win this group, do you end up with Torke at the moment in the next round? Because all I have here is... That's what I'm trying to set over here. Yeah, so I'm looking at the knockout here. So one, the forcing group D will play second in group F, right? And at the moment, Torke are second in group F. So if you win that group, you get Torke, okay? If... Not an easy game. No, but if Fring can take you to come second in group D, I'm just trying to find it. Second in group D. It's Belgium. You will play second in group B. Just Belgium. Okay. Which is Belgium. You're going from Torke, you're Belgium. You depend on where you come in that group. So I think it's huge for whoever wins this group. I really, really do. And, you know, actually you're saying Spain is impressed. You know, all, you know, you're possibly... You definitely expect France to come out with this tomorrow and possibly Holland or Austria. But with Spain, when you look at those teams up against Spain later on in the competition, do you think Spain will be worried about what it is? I feel like... I mean, personally, I feel like it might be a bit of a stretch for the Dutch. But I'm looking, if I'm Spain, I'm looking on France. Just feel like they'll build here. You know, that strength and depth will become a huge issue I think towards the end of the month. Well, I mean, like I said, I was just trying to go through this whole standings. And one thing that I've noticed is that Spain, Germany and Portugal are all on the same bracket. And so whoever comes in second tomorrow will be on the side of Spain, Germany and Portugal. Yeah. Which, to me, strikes me as the side of the bracket that you want to avoid. Yeah. You know, so I do think there's incentive there. I mean, whether you're playing Turkey or Belgium, I mean, that to me is second to the fact that you're going to have to go through Portugal, Germany and Spain. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think the Dutch have it in them, to be honest. I haven't seen enough. I mean, I watch Portugal and I saw them go into another year in Spain and I saw them go into another year. Same thing with Germany. I haven't seen that year with another. Yeah. Look, it's an argument for the Dutch. I know this way out there, but we're very forced. Comes off the bench, we're consistent for the Dutch. I know the boys had a big long career and he's, you know, so many goals off top score and stuff like that. But to me, he feels like maybe not very close, but that sort of player suits Holland a little bit better. Somebody that the looks of Simmons, Gakbo, you know, whether it's Frim Pong, Malin as being mentioned, and even the two center midfielders that he can bounce balls off and play. You know, the sort of way. I'm just wondering at some stage due to Dutch tournament go, you know what, we might need to change our tactic a little bit because it is going to come. It's going to come where Holland are going to be in a knockout game and they're going to be one, two, and then, you know, and they're going to have to go for this earlier than the usual day, which is probably 10 minutes to go. They bring on very close. I'm just wondering that that sort. And maybe it's not total football, the Dutch, they want everybody to be absolute, you know, technicians. Whereas I think someone a little bit more, you know, just rough and ready, physical and looking to be the one that you bounce a football off for most of the game and let the user let's do that game. Might be a way to go for football. They have other options. I mean, you've got Xerxes that can play up front. Yeah. Six. I mean, he's strongly linked with the move to the Premier League, six, three, six, four. I haven't seen anything of them to be honest. I don't know. Brian Broppy is another one that can play up front as a lone striker. Does it for Ajax? He can play off the wing as well. So they have options as well as the course that they can play one up front and play off him, you know, and he can occupy centre backs. He's well capable of playing with his back to go and bringing others into play. And in fairness, the Dutch strength really, when you look at the midfield that they have, they have players that can link the play and play off of a target man, central striker. So decision for Coombe and to try it. I think he should try it because three games in a week at the end of a long season. It's a tough ask to go with the same 11 or close to the same 11 again. So I think he should make changes. And I think it wouldn't be a bit surprised to see Big Horse start get an hour and then see where you are, see where the lay of the group is. And if you want to make a change, you've got Xerxes could come on and do the same job as working. If not, you can try Malin if you want a quick nippy player or you can bring on to the pie if you want to go down that road. Yeah. Moving into the next group though, I'm looking at tomorrow's fixtures. We've kind of covered France and Holland, Austria, Poland. I think the Holland last year game is going to be brilliant I think. Because when I watched Austria against France, I just thought they were so well drilled with these loads of energy and it wasn't like they were, you know, holding on against France and not having to go. They had a real goal. You know, they had a real goal of them. It wasn't like, look, he's got to be more nailable. You know, he's didn't get much of the ball. Actually, I have plenty of it. But tomorrow then you have, you have Denmark, Serbia and England, Slovenia. And, you know, it's, this is very interesting. 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Local and national games on YouTube TV, NFL Sunday Ticket for Out of Market Games, excludes digital-only games. Well, let's pause. If England get beaten and boy Slovenia and Denmark beat Serbia, England will finish toward the group. But with far points, they'll be absolutely fine. And it's this group I'm looking at, right? And I'm thinking to myself, if your wing groups say, and again, I'm going to start with what would happen. And I'm trying to, I'm trying to walk out with exactly what would happen. But if you wing group C, I think you end up with the toward in DRE. And I think that's the way it's come up. Whoever qualifies as a DRE in toward place, you will get. So, you know, when you look at that group, I think that might be the Belgian group, isn't it? Whether they're all on three points. Yeah, they're all on three, yeah. Yeah. So you have, let me see, you have group D, which will be toward in the Netherlands, France, Austria group. Or you would have, I think it's the Belgian group, which has Belgian, Ukraine, whoever else in it just allows all the teams in that group. I just can't remember them all. But start with England, actually, you know, we watch, live up here, we watch an awful lot of English football. You know, and you're watching them. And we had a shoulder tonight, and I just, I just think the fella is just born. And he just won't, he won't bring out the best in the players that he has, because he's so defensive and he's so, he's so, like, adverse to, and he's sort of risk, a risk averse. But England need to win this tomorrow, actually, because if England draw this tomorrow, if England were to draw this tomorrow, we have four points out of that group. The media will be all on. He'll be like, look, his beat, Serbia boy, go, he's drew with Denmark. He drew with Slovenia. Like, no one's confident going there. Jesus, if he lost it. And, you know, if he lost Slovenia and, you know, Denmark beat Serbia, England will be taught in the group. Like, this is a huge game for England in loads of different ways. Performance was the way they're going to look to go into the knockouts and where they are in those knockouts when they go in. Yeah, I mean, they can't be going into the knockout round with this monkey on their back. Like, they have to prove some sort of a point and at least just prove that they've got, like, a style of play for lack of a better word. Because right now, all they're doing is they're getting goal ahead and then they're sitting back. And they're basically just parking the bus, which is actually, I think, being kind to them, because I don't even know if they have the tactics to park a bus. I think they just don't know what they're doing. So they have to figure something out tomorrow. I think, I don't think Trent's going to be on the bench. It looks like Connor Gallagher is going to take that spot. And I think it'll be interesting to see if the performance is the same without the convenient Trent scapegoat. And if he's not there, you know, who's going to be the next person on the chopping block, I guess, is my question. I mean, if they don't do well, I'm really curious who's going to be the next person that the media pick up on. It's an interesting one, because there was a great point made by somebody in the chat today, and I apologize if I get the name. But they basically said, "Look, the English media kept telling you that Trent can't play right back, and he's a midfielder." And he's played a couple of games in a tournament for England in midfield, and all of a sudden he's now going to midfield. You know, and it seems to be the very, very easy way out. And I'm not talking about idiots on Twitter, I'm talking about, you know, pundits, and I use that in inverted comments, because I don't think I need to run any good. Which is the looks of Alan Shearer, you know, who, you know, never shut up talking about, you know, positive things for England and commentary and stuff. And then just lashing Trent when Trent is an issue, but he's not the only one. There was 11 issues on the pitch today. You know, there was genuinely 11 issues on the pitch against them, actually, the day. And the easy thing to do is, it actually shows a lack of a lack of, I think, football intelligence to pick at one player when you've had a game like that. I think it does just in England still, you know, you're clearly not watching the game. What you're doing is you're going, what's the easiest thing to say here that not even for clicks, just what's the easy thing to kind of sound relevant. You know, I'm not really, don't even know what I'm talking about, but I just was a Trent, you know, because he was the last player into the team or something like that. It's mind-blowing to me how they can pick out him. And I'm not saying he was good, but it's mind-blowing to me how he can pick out him and go, "He's the issue. He's the issue." Like, when you look at, it's clearly the manager is the issue. Like, it's clearly like, like, you cannot tell me he's not the issue here. Like, he has, like, and I'll say it again. Like I said, you know, he has a full back that flows forward in Walker. So let him go. Keep trippy where you want, 'cause he's a bit not used to left back, right? You have that. Then you have a number six that was moved out in number six position. He was moved out in number six position late on the season for Arizona at 104 million pounds. You have a guy on the left that has no left back to moving up, so we just keep being cornered by two people all the time. You have a guy on the right who, because that full back won't go forward, he's being cornered. So you have a striker that wants to come deeper and deeper because he feels like he's not involved in the game whatsoever. And then you have Joe Bellingham, who wanders around where he wants, but literally ends up more than him to know on top of Trent and Royce. So, and it's all because they are literally boxed into a certain area of the pitch where they have the ball, and they're not going anywhere for it. And it's basically used for a guy's up front. You're left, you're Roy, you're striker, and Joe Bellingham. You got to win the tournament for us, and we have to sit back here and watch. And that doesn't work, because teams are good. And teams are going to go, we just play seven at the back, and we just swamp your four, and then air four will be joined by two or three. To go with Joe, six, and let's see who wins. Let's see who wins the game of roulette. The manager has clearly the issue here, and why that trend has dropped, and Carmi Gallagher comes in, or, well, it doesn't matter who you put in that team, because the outlook from that manager absolutely negates what talents these players have or what impact they can make on the game. Kev, if they don't win this tomorrow, they go through, they will go through. But they don't win that game tomorrow. The absolute kind is like, you've had Harry Kane coming out of the week having to go off, explain opponents, apparently. And I haven't seen it, I've just read that you had to go. But this is only going to ramp up tenfold. If England come out with this group before he points tomorrow, have one game, one deal against Serbia, and fail to beat Denmark and Slovenia. Kane had a pop-off, Gary Lineker. He had a pop-off Gary Lineker for a Lineker, basically, giving the basics of what a striker needs to do in a game of football. Make runs, press the ball, look to stretch the play. They're basics. Nothing extraordinary, stop dropping deep. It was nothing out of the way. What Harry Kane come out with was just more dribble and nonsense. His press conference tonight, Garra Southgate, is basically telling you, I don't give a shit about anyone thinks. I'm leaving at the end of this tournament, so I don't care. I'll play how I want, pick who I want, and what are you going to do? I'm leaving anyway, so what? I'm not going to the World Cup in 2026, I know that. When you watch England's two games so far, it's actually criminal that he left track going to show home. If you want someone who can play out on the left, who can take kind of fallback, and that's his natural position, whether he's had a good batter in different season for Manchester City's irrelevant, he's good at doing that. He'll get you up the pitch just by drawing fouls. That's what he's very good at. The fact that he picked this way, he picked the squad with the way England play, in mind. You've seen how England have played for two games. He picked the wrong squad, he picked the wrong squad if that's the way he's going to play. And it's criminal what he's done, it's criminal what he's been allowed to get away with. You come out tonight, I don't pay any attention to the media, I've been in the job long enough. It's a bottle of a dog's back to me. It's a bottle of a dog's back to you because you don't care. And it's not the fact that you don't care, you're going. The worst they can do is sack you. You're going anyway, so it doesn't matter. - But you're saying he's talking more drivel tonight, right? You're talking more drivel, and he's talking about this, and he's talking about that, right? But at the end of the day, right, whether he listens to the media or gets affected by the media, his limitations as a football manager, right, a big guy is only Sean Honda. If he is saying he doesn't take any word from the media or outside interference, this is all me. His limitations as a manager of a football team is fucking like... - When you look at the forward talent in England, when you look at the forward talent, that England have available to them, you get, you've seen Seth Fabregas in studios, and his punditry is actually quite good. You saw Thomas Frank, when he was doing punditry work on an England game, on the Denmark game. And I swear to God, you give Thomas Frank that job with the players that he has available to him. They'd be organised, they'd be aggressive, and they'd play on the front foot. Gary Southgate went from Middlesbrough to England under 21s to the England national team, and that's what he knows. You know, there's nothing else. The job has evolved around him. Look, they did well. They got to the semi-final in Russia unexpectedly. Then they've been to a final, and an over-semi-final. Yeah, this is another semi-final. Ordinarily, you'd look at that and say, you know what, that's not bad. You know, it's not great, it's not bad. But at the same time, when you look at who they had to be to get there, and it was like walking over broken glass, watching them go through knockout games to get to where they got to, and to fall short. But by falling short, it gave him over two years, because maybe next time, maybe next time, Bellingham's coming through, this is coming through, that's coming through. Ultimately, he's limited. He's very limited. He's a very little experience outside of qualifying, and they generally qualify really easy, so they're not really tested until they get to knockout football. And when they get to the knockout football, they haven't played enough high-level opponents in meaningful football, not friendlies, in meaningful games, to know what to do. This setup he's got with 4-3. But it's not hard to know what to do. Like, I'd argue, right? But I know you want to keep 6 at the back, you want to keep your 4 at the back, you want to keep your 2 in the midfield, and that 6 is just that unit that wants to defend. I've no issue with that. If you want to be like that off the ball, absolutely be like that off the ball. But yeah, actually, I would argue England look more secure, right? If they have their 2 centre backs and one full back back, they have a guy in the 6 position, one slightly ahead of them when you have the ball, and one full back up the pitches apart all fall. Because one, your cars are more trouble. And two, when the ball breaks, you have more men up front that might win a back for you. And you're still sitting with 4 fucking people, gold soil at the ball, every time the ball breaks. And most of the time the ball's breaking 80 yards from your goal. It's not like when you lose it, the fall back, the two wingers, and the little run back, the little run back. But what you're seeing from England is, is 4 and 2, and they don't go beyond the ball. And then with the other 4, you're seeing them all being crowded there, nobody going to the sport, losing the ball. And teams have been able to just pop one ball into midfield. And these two guys are so far back that Ericsson Gillenite was a prime example. When Denmark won the ball, Ericsson was taking it. In the circle, in the centre circle, in England's half, and was able to turn and look and go, where is he going? Because the two lads were dropping on the centre backs. And the ball's 60, 70 yards from the goal. A classic tonight, if you watch Italy, what's late in the game, Darmian was playing as a left wing back or a left back. And look, Darmian is right footed, he can do a job at left back, similar to what Joe Gomez does. He's a centre back, a right back, a left back who can do a job. The runs he made every single time was beyond their full back, just simply to occupy him. That's all he did. If he got the ball, he tried to put across him with his left foot once. And that was just to show that he could. And the rest of the time, it was to pop it back to players who were in better space because of the fact that he was there. Kieran Trippier will never do that. No, because Pauline Scranton, Kieran Trippier isn't allowed to do that. This is my whole point, that's set in stone where we're not going to concede any goals. And they've come over with a 1-0 win and a 1-0 draw. So it's actually not making them, you know, it's not even making the way you go. Do you know what? They won 2-0 and they didn't give a sniff for another team. That's not a truth. That's not a truth. It simply isn't, but I expect them to be Slovene tomorrow. I do expect them to. I think they'll get the win. But on the other side of it, actually you've got Denmark and Serbia. What? I was going to say. On the other side, you've got Denmark and Serbia. In the way, I actually find the Denmark to win. But, you know, again, it's another group, isn't it? If you come over 2nd, it's a bit dodgy. If you actually come over 4th, this is a group where you come over 4th. You're like you've really got a jump ahead on people because you're getting a toward-place team. You know what I mean? So a toward-place team, I know it's only a small group. There's a real confidence for anybody to compel this group at 4th. And Denmark have a big chance to do that. Yeah. And like we were talking about earlier, do you want to face off with Germany and then probably Spain? Or would you rather go over and hang out with Switzerland and Italy? Because that's the difference between 1st and 2nd. So I know we're talking about England getting through no matter what. There's still something to play for. I think Denmark thinks there's something to play for. I don't know. I mean, it could be a whole, like, very similar today. Sorry. Very similar to today where things flip-flop throughout the course of the game up until the final whistle. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. So if are we all going on England, Denmark through here? Or is anybody going to throw Slovenia, Serbia into the mix, Kev? No, I think it'll be England, Denmark. But Serbia, Denmark is a toss-up. It's 50/50. It's a case whose striker turns up under there. Yeah. Because they match each other up really well across the pitch. It's a case who gets ahead and who can stay confident when they're ahead. Yeah. See it out. Yeah. Whoever goes up the second goal is vital. Yeah. And, like, again, I suppose I'm just waiting. To be honest, I'm waiting for the end of the weekend. The groups are over. I just go, "Listen, can you just show me eight teams at the top?" And eight teams at the bottom. And the little grid where they move up. Because honestly, I'm looking at this goal. And what group is that? What is it? Like, you know what I mean? It's absolute America. I think I've been going back and forth this whole show trying to figure it out. Oh, no. I'm going from group to group and going, "Hold on. 3AD. Hold on. Go back." Which is an A, isn't it? Like, you need an absolute Excel spreadsheet for a pull. But the end of the week. But the end of the week. It's kind of when you need him. Yeah. Yeah. Ershani, who's being Excel, has he been an XLM champion the last couple of years? Ershani. So, yeah. That's what we need. But that's tomorrow's games. I'm not going to go beyond them. I'm going to be honest with you. Because we will do shows for the week where we look. So, you've got France against Poland. Holland against Austria. Both are for APM tomorrow. You've got Denmark and Serbia and England against Slovenia. Of course, both kicking off at APM. Ershani here in Ireland or the UK. And, you know what? I think, you know, if I'm picking them games. I'm probably watching Holland the last year. And then I'm trying to dual screen the other two games to be honest with you. At APM. Yeah. We'll probably come back at 10 PM tomorrow night and do something on those games. But just before you go, because, you know, there's always a mixed match of heels on here. And what were they on? One player that's really impressed you. In the Euros. And it doesn't have to be, you know, all in bappy. You know what I mean? But one player that's really impressed yourself around the tournament. And I'll ask you this again next week. But who do you think is going on the winner? I think the one player that's impressed me is Mooseella. I think his dribbling skills have really. I mean, he's been great. I just don't get the chance to watch him that often. So to watch him. Just take on players and take on this kind of mantle of, I thought that. I didn't throw him in as like a young player, the year candidate for this tournament. But I think he's really impressed me. I have others, but I'll just stick with him. And then. Does he interest you and impress you because this talk of a bit of a contract Wrangler, but I mean, you're using your inner sensei to get him to the local. I think if I was going to go that way, I'd go meet the Williams. Okay. He's the one that I think, I don't know, he feels very like Monet 2.0. But if I was going to look for one in that mold, I think it'd be him. I think what interests me about Mooseella is the back history of him being an England player and then moving over to Germany. I think England could have very much used a player like him this tournament. But they wouldn't. God, I'd say we would have played him in the six. I know. But in an ideal world with a competent coach, I think he would have caused some damage to the tournament if he was on the team. And then who's going to win it? I'm just having a really hard time seeing like past Spain. I think, you know, depending on how France do tomorrow, like I just feel like they're sleeping. But are they a sleeping giant or are they just sleeping? I don't know. Whereas Spain, to me, they just like already look like they have a level of dominance and silkiness that, you know, the great Spain teams have had in the past. I think when I look at Spain, they do have that element of dominance. What I'd probably like to see before I'd edge towards Spain is a really tough second round game. You probably won't get a really tough quarter form. You know, the team that has weapons to hold and they see it. You know, and then you're going to go, yeah, you're seeing a kind of an odd round thing from Spain. France have had that. I think they've had a really tough game against Austria, which they came through. I think they've had a really tough game against Holland, which they did lose. And I think where Mbappe come on back, you know, I think that's where I am with France. But I think Spain called Swamie. If I see them, you know, let's say they went and they'd be a Holland in a quarter form. I don't even know if they're on the same side of the draw. But I'm saying somebody like that has a real attacking threat and pull it up in a massive way and put them under 20 to 24 minutes of staying pressure and Spain see it true. That's my only day ever with Spain is when they actually, it comes on top of them. How did they deal with it? And so far, to be honest, they've dealt with everything thrown away. But your really mucial is a fantastic footballer. Everyone in the right point will be going after him. If there is a contract issue, I'll point him in again. Yeah. If England had a manager that didn't order cocktails such as when he was able to go to a restaurant and maybe he could play for England, he would be unbelievable for him. But of course, Garret Elgaid does on his court redraw and does not mean he can do the change. So, Kev, play out of 10 pressure. Who's on the winner? Lame in your mouth is unbelievable. He's frightening. I mean, this is the first time we've been able to sit down and just watch him. Yeah, I don't watch Spanish football, not like I used to. But at 16 years of age, he doesn't give a shit about anyone's reputation. He was playing against Italy, against seasoned fallbacks who are top-top tier. You know, really good quality fallbacks. And he just rinsed them. He didn't give a shit. He's quick. His game intelligence is off the scale. His ability to pick pass and his composure is very messy like in not moving. Yeah. In being at the right place and being in the right body position to square a fall back up. Nico Williams as well has been very good. But for me, Lame in your mouth has been the standard in the tournament. And the more I see, the more I see him, I can imagine what he's going to be like in four years time when he's 20 at the euros, the next euros. Yeah, he'll probably join the girls and drink. He won't be your full part on four years. I mean, he'll be playing until like 2038 or something. Yeah. Yeah. He'll join girls and drink. That'll be the end of it. That's it. Well, that's it. When they go from minor to senior. Yeah. Yeah. Someone used to call in James Milner and have a mentor. Yeah. Just, you know what? Barris, I want you to just sign James Milner and go look your heads down. Yeah. All right. For the next 10 years. He's probably James Milner's old enough, well old enough to be down in a lot of states. Yeah. It's great. But you know what? Like we're talking about the looks of Madrich at 29. Yeah. Or somebody else, someone else doing the rounds of the euros is really old. It's quick. It's quick. Oh, yeah. He's rockin'. He's 44. He's 44. Yeah. And then even the voice of Em, I see him. It was a cent a half to the day. It was a cent a half playing to the day for somebody. No. Not Pepe. It was somebody else. I was like, jeez. He's that old. I can't remember who it was. No, it wasn't. It was in the copy. I was watching America last night and read who plays for Fulham. He's like, totally. Yeah. And I was like, jeez, that fellas 26. Watch the couple last night. Fox Sports, it was on. It was in Dallas, Texas. And I've never had someone watching the game or football. The American commentary was there. You watched them both or just USA? I watched the USA. I watched Europe as well. But I watched the USA as Bolivia and the phenomenal commentary. Like, unbelievable to the point where I was raw and laughing. Like, and it was just, you know what it was. It wasn't like, I wasn't laughing at them. I could have gone. These people don't know what they're talking about. It's just a terminology to use and how excited they get. It's very different. Yeah, man, literally went, right? It was half time to win. Half time here in Dallas. I think it was in Dallas. It wasn't AT&T, isn't it? Yeah. Cowboys, isn't it? And he goes, half time here. It's USA 2, Bolivia nil. 45 minutes gone. 45 minutes to go. Yeah. And I was like, why are you so excited? Everyone knows the second half as cool. That's his thing. Like, he does that every single game. Oh, that's it. So it's this guy's thing. That's like touch phrase or whatever. Okay. Because you've done this thing later where I was telling the last of a moment this guy comes on for America, Pepe, right? And they were like, here comes, they were talking about him. He plays for PSV. He used to play for some team in Dallas. And he goes, a couple of chances. And he goes, oh, here's Pepe trying to get a goal in his arm, adopted their city. It's home city. And he goes, I'm trying to get this in his home city. And it kept going, kept going. Then the ball was trying to play from him. He missed one from five yards. And he goes, oh, that must be a curse on him today. Trying to go to the goal and is adopted in his home city. And then too much, he went, well, when I say home city, I mean, adopted cities from Mexico. And I was like, this is fucking phenomenal. And I just, like, I ended up, I ended up not watching the game. I was just listening to this guy. I don't think he said. He might have said he's from Mexico. But he wasn't from the place he kept telling people he was from. It was just fantastic. And it was like, do you know what? I take that. I take that over mountain toilet any day of the week. Because the only thing I do, I hate this top of the six and top of the boxing. I'm like, lads, he's on the edge of the six yard box. Or he's on the edge of the box. The top of the six and the top of the box. I was a big thing. That's what you're in being like. But then I have time. I have time, man. I'm sorry to go out with big hands. But I have time, right? I was like, alexilatus is sitting there. And I was like, fuck me. Look at alexilatus. He's great for his age, right? And I was like, I remember, I remember like in, in 1993, they had that America cup or whatever they call it. He beat England one nail. And I think I'm way into one or something. Alexilatus, he scored. He played, definitely. It was before the '94 I woke up. And I always remember the goal. The goal posts were just like goal posts that he carried under the picture. And there's the fucking goal. We don't put them in the ground, which they've actually gone back to in this carpet where you can see that the bars are on the ground behind the post. A lot of them are on concrete stadiums. Like underneath their concrete and they roll the grass out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's nothing going on the ground. So they've gone back to these goals, right? But alexilatus comes on. And alexilatus literally turns into Roy Kayne, right? For 20 seconds. It was fantastic because he goes, "Alexi, what do you think we need to do?" And he goes, "Well, you know, we've got a goal after two minutes. We can't score at McConor and we'll really score at McConor." He was like, "Yeah, it was a short corner." And he came in. He called into the top corner. It's not really from a set piece. They have a set P person. He's giving it a set P person. We need to do this. We need to do this. And then he goes, so I was like, "Relax alexilatus. I turned it up a half, right?" So then when they're coming back out, he goes, "Well, what do you feel America needs to do in the second half?" Alexi, and he goes, "Well, Western McKinney, Western McKinney needs to play better." He needs to do more. He's looked a target. He looked at Western McKinney. It's one of the best coaches I've ever seen in football to get the tone with the ball. And it was like alexilatus is literally watching way too many clips of Roy King on Instagram. I'll tell you. Alexilatus is one step away from Matt Latissier. He's a player. Is he a player, yeah? He's a pure space cadet. He is way out there. He is an absolute spacer. Yeah. But I mean, I think Daniel Sturridge is on some of the comments on the three teams as well out there. Yeah. I honestly think Sturridge is brilliant. The best ones I've seen. The best ones I've seen though, if he's got a chance, watch the Euros on TSN, which I think is a Canadian channel, Canadian network, right? It is after Walmart, right? Like Kevin Kombana showing up in a suit that looks like it's just static. You know when you cable TV, you pull the cable out and just black and white static? He's torn over in a suit like this. She can't even see fucking Kevin Kombana. She can't see the rest of his body. They've got Caldwell. Yeah, man, Caldwell, he used to play for Borne, like the Scottish guy. And he's talking to the camera like he's trying to get you to join a cult that he's fucking brilliant because what he did was he asked him a question and he has a guy that was working his left and he keeps going like, yeah, so what I think is, and then he just turns and stares at you down the camera going. He needs to do this. He's had him with another couple of guys. They asked somebody on, at the start of the Denmark game, how do you, where do you think this game will be won? And the person goes, well, I think it'll be won a midfield or a final toward it. And I was like, you know what? You're not wrong. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. You win midfield and the goals are in the final toward of the pitch. Absolutely spot on. It's fantastic. Did you see any of the cover? I don't know if this is unique to the United States, but the Fox coverage, it was the Germany Hunger Games where they dressed up as pretzels. They were in full outfit. It was a girl. It was a girl on last night for Italy, our American versus Bolivia. And she had like a full, like a star-spangled banner going in the fucking suit. It was like mad. It's absolutely amazing. It was like, yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So they dressed up in like the, they were in full outfit. Like weld comedy. But it was a girl, it was a girl on last night. Yeah, it's absolutely. Yeah, they really go all out. Yeah. And it's just incredible. But the American guy, then he was going, if he mentioned one more time, right? The Pulitzer Girl in the team of the year in Serie A was going to ring in and go, listen, we are fucking now. I was going to ring Fox and go, listen, if you tell that prick, we are now here in the team of the year. He must have flashed it up on the screen. Every time he got the ball, seven goals, nine assists for a Pulitzer, an AC Milan team of the year. You would think there's no one else on the team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he is starboy. He is starboy. He's a really fucking good player. But then they have a Giovanni Rainer, right? Yeah. Who is the laziest footballer I've ever seen. Did you have any Rainer? Like everyone sweating the humidity. I don't know how humid it is in Dallas, Texas. I'm presuming it's heat humid, right? And everyone's running around and sweating. And Giovanni Rainer's running around, right? Not a hero. He's not a beautiful fucking sweat. And he's just like, yeah, I'll just pass the ball over here and whip them off in 70 minutes. And then weirdly, I was thinking about Brendan Aronson, who played for Leeds, went off to not hurt to Berlin. Do you love Berlin? Was it not a Berlin team? Union. Union Berlin. And avoided relegation. But he's gone back to Leeds because he's on the contrary. And I was thinking, Brendan Aronson, he's American. What's happened to him? And I swear to God, I only tore it. And then he went, Brendan Aronson's going to make way into the fray here and there. And I was like, fuck off. I was like, I only tore it in the head. So look, I was like, maybe if I think of somebody else, so they're American, you know what I don't know. Matcha Man Randy Savage might come out of the game. And for now, it was just, it was the most enjoyable for all the watching ages. Imagine what it's going to be like in the World Cup. Imagine if Ireland qualify and they have to dress up. They have to dress up as some of them. Never can't. Yeah, they would, they would dress up as a legend. Or drunk fucking banjo players. Like, honestly, right? We're so bad at football at the minute. If I weren't qualified for the 2026 World Cup, it'll be a crime against humanity if they don't fucking base them in New York and Boston. And literally say, listen lads, you don't have to go to Mexico for Canada. You can stay and play in the joint stadium and some plays in Boston. They can play in July. I think one of the stadiums they're using is July. So they can just base out of Boston. Yeah, literally if they do Boston in New York, it'll be the greatest World Cup of all time. Absolutely. Look, and I'm not messing. If Ireland were to play in name stadium when 90,000 fucking attendance, if Ireland were playing in that, it would literally be sold out of world people. I promise you. They'd be, they'd be one of the credit unions. Nobody, and I include, nobody, and I include America will travel as well to this World Cup as Ireland model. After chain, how good it will be. I definitely go. I definitely go. We just all pack a van up so it actually is a category. Listen, we're going to be here for two weeks. Pain, no attention. It's all good. If you're at this box, that isn't a box, that won't stop back. No, but the train that goes to and from. So it's Boston to where? To New York. Foxborough. Foxborough. It's only like an hour away. From where you live in Boston. Yeah. Fox, it's where it's the stadium. Yeah. It's where the Patriots play and it's where, yeah. That's where they're doing some of the games. Okay. Um, but anyway, um, listen, they're letting about 84 teams into the next World Cup. So we have to make, do you know what I mean? Like, literally, like what you should do is, they should turn around and go, how many political agreements have you got with America? And then they start at the top and they go, "Oh, Ireland have laws. You're in." Right? They're in. And then just walk down and then when you get down, when feel about 16 is based on your right now, the qualifying starts. There's fucking 20 spots left. That's the only way we're only getting there to be fair. Yeah. I think if you, if your country, as pre-clearance said, the airport that you're leaving from, you automatically get seated. Yeah. We don't sun green cards. We don't sun green cards. We don't sun green cards. That's all I want. We got off here. Listen, the fella, we got off. The fella checking up house when we grabbed the other end is probably called all royally. Don't be worrying about it. I know. I knew it was my. Something like that. And then we just walk into America. We have to crack. Gav and his fucking Winnebago again. Yeah. Listen, I don't know what it is. When I go anywhere, I just, I always hit when I go to America. I shouldn't be in a hotel. I should be in an RV. Just ringing, actually going. I'm going to ring the airport. Yeah, but I'm just ringing, actually going, listen. I'm just going to pack her outside the house. 10 days max. Right? And I want to know any of your neighbors. And I'll be grand. Look, do you know what? I'm going to go out somewhere with you and your neighbors. They'd love me. They'd be literally gone. Literally just stay. Well, we'll have a great crack. But yeah, we kind of went on a tangent there. We went home with the euros and then we go out. But listen, you get a chance to watch. If you watch them, did you watch new notes at all last time? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Just curious. What did you get? I told you the decent game. I think does one shot in the fourth half, he hit straight at the keeper from Bill Ford in yards, which I think he should probably take a touch and then look to place it. The header I think in the second half, which is a little bit more difficult than it looks. And he doesn't go too far. But the goal is brilliant. The goal's a great finish. Yeah. It was a lovely, it's like Polly. Yeah. But we're at the stage now where I've known as, you know, Troy is a chef in 24 yards and goals narrowly avoided. He'd say, look, we're holding his car. That's where we're at at the minute. I'd love him to have a good cop. I'd come back with five, six, seven goals under his belt. Possibly a medal under his belt and come back. But listen, I can't wait to see him again. I'm going to have a good year. I love him. I love him. He has flaws. He has, you know, those percentages. He needs to rise in his game. But overall, I still think he's worked. He's worked on the other. But boy, if you're going to watch the car, but I know you're going to watch Messina. You're going to watch Brazil. Please watch an American game. Like on Fox. Just watch it. I'm going down. I don't watch any, you know, of the pregame stuff and the halftime stuff. But literally, right? I watched the pregame stuff on the doors. I got really into this. Half-time is literally a competition to see who can sell the most fucking trucks between the Ford F-150, the some-croids, our job. And Ford, the new Bronco as well. And it's literally an ad. And then, in between, there's a fella. There's a fella selling toils going. Listen, this is water. And it's a fucking low-time guarantee. And then there was the best ad, which was like somebody got some decking outside the house. And it was like, literally changed our lives. Like we have an area in there where we can play and they're having water, balloon, foitz, and something. Fuck off. You put a deck at the back. You know what I mean? You clearly got paid some sort of royalty to deal with this. But fantastic advertisements as well. So, and all around experience is 9/10. Fox parts, American, the carpet. Fuck off the club. You know, it's all the bits around it. The football's good as well. Well, there you go. Um, let's go to pieces. 10 days, Max has got three years later. And actually, he's still trying to get immigration to the part of the fucker. Like Louis Diaz is there just in the game. Well, that's what you mean after you go home. And boy, that's where we are. That's where it's been. Kevin, do you think you thought you were winning? Yeah, I think Spain. Spain, they look the most likely. I'm going to just go with France just to be like that. Anyway, tomorrow, we will possibly do a show tomorrow. But there's a chance me and Phil are doing a new podcast tomorrow. And there's a chance we're going to play. And record it in front of you, members. And I'm told actually in Kevin, two topics for tomorrow. And I know they're thinking about it because I can see actually laughing about them already. And Kevin's, Kevin's just saying nothing. But they're fantastic topics. Phil will have to go home. Yeah. Trust me. Don't miss it. There's no, there's no football. This podcast will be no life and death stuff. There is no football on it. Okay. So if you see a government where it says Gavin Phil on a podcast, the next couple of days, our live show, there's no football on it. Okay. We won't even really, we're not even going to release it to download. I don't think we don't know what we're going to do yet. It's definitely going to do tomorrow at some stage. But we see where we go. We may do it at nine o'clock and just record it on our own somewhere. And then see where it goes. But we should be on here at 10 tomorrow with some Euro stuff. If not, we'll be there tonight after to do some reaction to the England stuff and some looking ahead to whatever groups are left. Actually, Kev, thanks a million. Thanks to everyone in the chat. Thanks to everyone for, for all of you, for being members. Please continue to do so. I have a good crack. We're doing our best this summer. Jesus Christ, we need a transfer of any sort. Like literally some blow for 1.40 million is going to be torture is really back. I'll take it right now. And just so we can talk about it. But it's not happening tomorrow. But we are looking at doing a quiz towards the end of the week. We'll be a Liverpool based quiz. I'm not going to tell them what it's about. Because these people might be on it. And I'm not giving them any kills. There you go. Actually, Kev, thanks a million. I've been God for so much American. The Copper America. It's way better than the fucking Euros. Talk to you in a bit. All right now. [MUSIC] [MUSIC]