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You're not going to be able to make the best of your business. You're not going to be able to make the best of your business. You're not going to be able to make the best of your business. Right, right, right. Good evening. Yeah, I was too lazy to do a song this week, so anyway, we're back after a draw to West Brahms. Normally, we'd be coming in a bit, started down about the whole thing, but the great man, Yogi, has managed to flip it on its head and make everyone sort of positive about the whole thing. We're all in this together. He proved that we're bringing the team over to us at the end of the game. Tonight in the bunker, we've got Dave Thomas and Steve Daley in a slim down crew. We had to record this a little bit earlier than we normally would have, but we're going to have a chat about the draw. It's not something to be down about. There's a lot of things coming out. There's a lot of questions being answered. There's a lot of new stuff happening. I'm starting to see the emergence of what Jorgen Klopp probably wants his team to look like and how he wants them to play, even if that top half still isn't right. We can't defend us at peace, and we can't score us at peace either. We're going to do that, and then we're going to just have a look ahead to the Wafer game and also talk about the Europa League draw. Then we have a bit of a festive feel about the Trippers' chats this evening, so I hope you're all going to enjoy that one as well, as we give you a few of our favourites. I think it's an acoustic set tonight, don't trade with us in the house. So Liverpool too, and the West Bromwich of the Alvians too, and then before that we had the Nidal draw in Switzerland, I think it was. I think it was. It was. It was. It was many days ago. At this stage, so it was a very event for Matt, so that's why it sticks longer than memory is one of our famous drawers away from home. But anyway, the main event was the West Brom game yesterday, two-wheel draw. We got a point back when it looked like we were going to throw away three points, not a great result at home again, but Steve, any encouragement for you there? Yeah, there were. Henderson back in the team was a massive plus, and yeah, I was going to say he probably faded after 70, and he probably did. But even in the last final minute of the game, he was looking to get on the ball and trying to do something with it. His goal is absolutely what we've been lacking from midfield. It's exactly what I was saying a couple of weeks ago about what we had from James Milner in pre-season, and we haven't seen from him since, was that midfielder breaking from deep, getting in the box and getting on the end of something, and his run was exceptional. And massive credit to the line as well for the knockdown. I know we've probably come to the goals and stuff like that, but that was encouraging. It was nice to see Origi come on and show just an eagerness to get at them. Everybody gives Jordan I massive credit for doing exactly that, but I think Origi probably even nearly had a little bit more to what he was trying to do with the ball. Yet again, I'd be yesterday disappointed for me in the sense that he came on and regularly hit their full back with the ball, just smacked them with it, you know what I mean? It's the end product is so far off being anyway near what we need from them. But yeah, no, there were a positive, you know, it's probably a bad time to say, but I thought for a lot of the game, Lovren and Skertle looked quite comfortable again together. You know, Lovren gets milled, things change, Skertle was poor, probably with Chan. I haven't, I remember at the time looking at it and thinking Chan and Skertle were poor for losing him for the header on the second goal, but no, there were encouraging signs. It was a poor result, but I thought there was encouraging signs to be found there. Dave, Chan and Hendo on the sentiment field, something that I've probably said a lot of the see, I am young viewers, I was actually quite happy with them in the sentiment field, they're mobile unit, they tend to, they tend to call me very quite well. What was your thoughts? Yeah, I mean, I actually thought we missed Khan in the final third, rather than, I thought it was fine defensively, I thought defensively we were actually pretty good, apart from the set pieces. Lovren was actually, I thought very good yesterday. But in the Henderson and Chan, I actually think if you put Lucas behind them, that's a bit of midfield, you know, for Lucas behind them, play Henderson and Chan, either side of him, pushing on, bombing on, because I think we missed the legs. I think I thought Milna was poor yesterday. So you've got to kind of take it as a three, rather than the two. So two of them were very good, and I thought Milna was poor, and we just had no pace, like on no movement. So you'd like to see a one and a two. A one and a two, rather than a two and a half. Yeah, no, I think what you're saying there, it makes sense, Dave, in the sense of just taking that little bit of defensive responsibility away from them, just not taking it all away from them, but just easing it off a little bit. So you're getting the momentum of Chan and Henderson going forward. I think the other thing with Emma Chan is that he can, I actually think he can do the DM thing so easily, that it's almost like boring to him. Like he just gets bored, and then he's like, for much as piss off, I'm just going for a like, well, as I take all that away from him, I'd say, okay, go and play on the left, you know, the left of the three, drift in, take shots, you know, he's excellent. I mean, he's probably the best player we have, maybe apart from Henderson for passes in the final third, you know, just finding his target, finding where he wants to play the ball through balls, back heels, all that kind of stuff, he's penetrative, whereas Milna just wasn't yesterday. And I like Milner, I think he's got a role to play, but he's being overplayed at the moment, and he's just not, his confidence is gone. And, you know, I just, I actually think I'd play, yeah, take him off for a minute, you know, I take him out as well. We've got enough options. You take him out. Right. Right. You're loathing for him. Well, no. Yeah, but it's not, it's not because I wanted to do badly, it just does me head in. But I look at, looking up front, we had the statue was back, and, you know, he was again, you know, I feel, I feel a bit sorry for me, he has a big prize tag, but he just doesn't seem to fit into this team at home. Yeah, massively reactive to everything we were trying to do on the break. I found that he just seemed to be on his heels for every ball that was played to him. He was, you know, he was half a yard, whereas you would expect, you know, story of story to be on the front foot, expecting that pass and exploding away onto the, you know, into the flight of the past of the ball, he was that half yard behind, and then he was killing himself to try and get to it, rather than being comfortable when he met the ball. And that probably killed three or four really good chances we had, I think. Yeah. I mean, for a player that actually does have a very good first touch, usually with his back to goal, he's so slow to react to everything that's happening around him. I mean, I really like that guy, I think, but I think we've said on the pod before, he's the type of guy that's going to get you 10 goals a season, 15 goals a season without ever looking like, you know what I mean, he's never going to look like Sturridge. He's never going to look like, yeah, he's not going to be that guy. He's going to be. And I think a lot of his goals will come from being the plan B, you know, after all playing with someone else. And I actually think Origi's showing in the last few games has put his position under serious. For me, anyway, look, we've been techy, I don't know, I don't know if anybody fails this way around, I wouldn't have played him against best blow. Like, he was up against two fellas who are quite comfortable in the air, who basically are only quite comfortable in the air. It's like putting them up against Shawcross. Yeah. Just basically saying we're going to play to your strengths at the center half. Yeah. And I think didn't they play a center back in one of the fallback spots. I've already had four center backs across the fallback spot. But I think the thing, the thing I didn't get with, I think you play Ben Tech, if you're going to play Ben Techy, right, you've got to play players who are going to get beyond them, continue on a ladder and never going to get beyond a decade. They both want to come to midfield to get the ball. So I just didn't understand why we played, like, I can understand playing Ben Techy, if you play Ib and Origi, either side of him, because both of those players are going to want to get beyond him. Or even Firmino. Maybe Firmino is a little bit like Coutinho that likes to come deep. So I just didn't get how he thought that that fun three was going to work. And if it wasn't for Henderson, nobody would have ever gone beyond Ben Techy. So I didn't, to be fair to Ben Techy, there's a little bit of, I think he's got to show more, I think his confidence is a little knocked, I think he's missing, you know, half a yard of reaction time. But I also think just, we're just not setting the team, plus we can't cross a fucking ball at the sea of our lives. It's killer. I mean, it's fucking ridiculous. We can't take a corner. We can't take a six or four. You know? Like, we have a lethal concoction at the moment, our offensive set pieces are appalling and our defensive ability of set pieces is appalling. So, when you boil it back down to these points, we're trying to wait a whole month. If you're going to give away free kicks, and you're not going to give away free kicks and corner kicks in a game, if you're not going to be able to defend them properly, you're going to end up in trouble. Well, just on the offensive side, first of all, the fact that we can't take that, it is absolutely, I mean, say what you like about Ben Techy, if you can't cross them, you're taking away 40% of what he's good at. Absolutely. You know what I mean? It's just ridiculous that we can't. And also, why are we crossing so early from like 40 yards away from, I mean, you're not sort of going to eat that up all day, why aren't we breaking to the byline and crossing in? It's just-- Even the likes of what Milner did when he cut that ball back from Ben Techy was, okay, he didn't quite get to it and it didn't come off. But if you're doing that regularly enough, that is the sort of stuff that Ben-- I was going to say Ben Heskey, I didn't even mean to, but Ben Techy, that's the sort of stuff he's going to thrive on. And he will score goals like that, but if we have to do one or two things, we have to play a center forward that's going to work with the style of play that we're aiming for, or we need to change our style slightly to incorporate Ben Techy in a more effective manner because there's no point in having a 32 million pound player that plays like Ricky Lambert. No, it's pointless. It's pointless. And on the defensive side, fucking skirt or Jesus Christ, like, you know, okay, let's talk about this a little go, right? Yeah. Because it's very marginal that I get to this a lot. Oh, yeah. I can't understand. Can I just point out that none of our players, apart from Lelana, appear for our side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. None of our players. I think it's because they saw who was behind them. I was like, yeah, they just, I was like, where's you going to scoot? Oh, you can't. We all just looked at a new break. Fucks sake. Like, you know, I'm also just a bit concerned that the cake, you know, two weeks later, actually, may I just say. I think it's three weeks later. Well, I don't know. When was Jay's birthday? Three weeks ago. Well, then it's here for. And it looks like chocolate cake, but it was actually Madeira cake. Yeah. Yeah. It's chocolate cake. No, that's all right. How much would you, would you take to have a piece? Listen, it's just going to be stale. Fuck it. Fuck it. Steve would eat a dirty cake. Yeah. I'd actually say it was decent, but it was only OK. Anyway, sorry. Getting back onto football. I don't think cake-related matters. The big body bollocks, and you know what, he actually played, he played alright in terms of open play. He's just killing us at the minute with with certain areas where he just wants that extra couple of yards for his own comfort and it's killing us. Yeah. I think that he's the senior defender and look, we can argue about the merits of that. But if you watch the first goal, he's all at sea. Yeah. I mean, he actually ends up going, I think, on to the line thinking, well, I'll get the shot. I'll try to get the block. Yeah. He's completely. But actually, both are sent to halves. Don't go on a challenge for the ball. I don't know what's happening with the defensive center, but both of the center halves seem to be not attacking the ball and it's almost like a midfielders are the ones contesting headers. And I'm like, that's fucking crazy. Yeah. Because on the second goal, Lover and Gores with all some, but then doesn't challenge for the header. Why do you get, actually, I think the second goal is blocked off. Yeah. I think the second goal is false. But on the first one, and I just think skirt or this drop in deep, I mean, it's just crazy. The thing that annoys me is though, right? You can see them all fucking arms out, making sure everyone's up on the line and look at zoom and then you can see them up. I'm going to take an extra. I'm going to take you out here. Thanks. And as soon as the fellow goes to strike the bar, he drops the rest and hold the line. Yeah. If he holds the line, no, no, we get the offside anyway, but if he holds the line, there's no way. There's even a question. No, no, no, no, no. Stage is changing. No, no, no, no, no. Stage is changing. No, no, no, no, no. Stage is changing. No, no, no, no, no. Stage is changing. No, no, no, no, no. Stage is changing. No, no, no, no, no. Stage is changing. Stage is changing. Stage is changing. No, no, no, no, no. Stage is changing. Stage is changing. Stage is changing. No, no, no, no, no. Stage is changing. Stage is changing. And I haven't seen any explanation, but I think the linesman thinks it's an on goal. I think he thinks it's gone in off Skirtle. That's why he doesn't flag. Right. And then he says to the referee, did that go in? And then they have a conversation going, did that go in off Skirtle or did that go in off the West Brom play? And when the referee says it goes off the West Brom play, he goes right when he's off side. Yeah. But I think, because, I mean, I don't know if you, I was watching it on, I can't remember who was commentating. I was on some dodgy stream and they just couldn't believe that this line's going to take us along to make the decision. But I couldn't believe he'd taken that load. I was like, they're gone. What's going on? Because they were celebrating for a good 24 seconds after the goal. Yeah. And it wasn't even a hint of a flag going on. I don't have some, nah, nah, actually, you're off. I was off the corner. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I said, I'm not telling you a second ago. I was like, the ref back at the center second. No, sorry about that. That's freaky. So I think he thinks it's a long goal, but we were lucky then. We were lucky. And then we got punished on the second one. Yeah. It's just like every time they got a free kick, it looked like we were going to. It's about the application and what we're trying to do as a defensive unit. And whether that's ruled offside or not ruled offside doesn't make any difference about the way we're trying to do things. It is a failure of the system. It's still three yards deep. Yeah. Then the rest of the line. Which is just, I mean, Klopp must be going to fucking bananas. Yeah. And it just doesn't make sense. He can't do anything about it either. Like what? He can't play colo instead of him. So... But soccer is back now. Well, soccer will have to play against Watford. Because Lovren's injured. Because Lovren's gone. And he can't get back in the side. But then the center half sound contestant for the header. So I don't know what's going on on corners. I mean, I think he's obviously trying to play blockers. And if you watch on the first goal, Klein's really weak on the goal. Well, let's talk about the fourth goal. You can talk about how weak everyone is, right? I mean... But that's just fucking apart on goalkeeper. It's terrible. It's terrible. Terrible. Terrible. You know. And he doesn't come out of the box because Ben, someone said to me that Ben Teke kind of blocks them off. You know what, if your keeper comes out and number one, you have confidence in his ability and number two, he's commanding enough to make that shout and let you know he's coming and he's fucking milling that. You know he's going to hit you, Ben, whoever it needs to be, to get that ball out of there. And it's just really... It's a half-arced attempt at a punch. But that's the other thing. For me, I was looking like, "Oh, fuck, that's a fella who's just common." Yeah. As opposed to actually believing he's going to get on the end of the ball. It was a... It's a loser. Yeah, it's like he's coming because he believes it's the right thing to do rather than knowing he's coming. But it's also the consequence of him shouting that he's coming means the defense goes... Keepers got it. Yeah. So the reactions are a split second behind. And you could see it then with the rebound because everyone's gone, "Oh, fuck, he didn't get that. Shit." And then everyone's a couple of seconds behind. And actually, immediately he should clear the second ball as well. Yeah. That's where he's really poor. He misses the first one. But he actually lands on his feet. It's not like he's knocked over. Yeah. And he's watching it bouncing around with the say, "Oh, fucking jump away." And then he takes a step back, trying to get his positioning right to it. And I think he was taking the gold smother it. Yeah. Smother the fucking... So take a hit to the hit. You're allowed handling. You can use any part of your body. Yeah, yeah. Well, and he does a second half as well. There's a cross put in. There's not a West Brom player within 10 yards. He doesn't have it. And he pun... No, no, no, no. That's when he did it in the first half again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A crazy thing where he went leg in half the ball and nearly lost the fucking thing. But in the second half, he goes to punch, or sorry, he goes out and you're thinking, "Oh, yeah, he's just going to catch this and release it." And he punches it. And he just... There's no one near him. And he just punches in it to say, "Yeah, I'm fucking back." And you're like, "But that wasn't the right thing to do there either. Catch the fucking thing and roll it out to the floor line." It's just the impact is not going to roll out. The mistake... The mistake has on him and then subconsciously what it does to the defence. Yeah. Because for the rest of the game... They don't trust him. They don't trust him. Yeah, yeah. You know. I don't want to keep getting his back, but we're into it. It's November heading into December now, and we're having the exact same conversation we had this time now. Yeah. Which is the crazy thing. Well, I think we should give Brad Jones room. Well, Clop obviously thinks highly of him because they're going to give him a new contract. So Clop obviously thinks it's something they have to work with. Definitely think he'd be a great number too. Yeah. Right. So look, that's most of the gold we've looked at, we've had a look at scale. The outlover and injury. Yeah. Look at it. It looked fucking sore. It really did. It was a good red card. How the fuck do you get away with? Well, no, he was not said. I mean, there's three red cards in that game, right? Skirtle goes two footed on Rondon. Yeah. And Rondon jumps over him. Yeah. Milner was probably a red card, I think he's a red card, and that was a red card. It was an orange card, anyway. That was a red card. That's a terrible card. Yeah. He knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing. He's done it in a yellow. He's done it in a yellow. Not quite a red card, but it's more than a yellow. That's an orange card. No, you're on your last order. Don't be doing that again. Yeah, no, I'd agree with you on that. It's a shock. I mean, he knows what he's doing is without Gartner. He does put the problem as he does clip the ball first. He does. And Clap has come out and said that, you know, he gets the ball first. The only thing is, like, the rule is if the tackle's reckless. Yeah, true. So you know what I mean? Like, the rule gets the ball, but if it's a reckless, dangerous tackle, then... He didn't even give a foul. No. No. He didn't even give a foul. Never had a fucking red card. Yeah. But if it's interesting that the, you know, a couple of months back, like that would have been greeted by a massive chair around the stadium. It's okay. It's okay. It's fine. You know, every, you know, every, normally given a ball, like, said they'd known soccer was on the bench today anyway, but it was like, fuck who were you ever on here? The balls aren't clapped off for bringing a regi on. Yeah. Fair play to it. Yeah. It was the right decision. I totally win the game. But like, they don't get the points around. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. But like, moving out, like, looking at the substitutions and, like, bringing Firmino on as well, I don't even feel that we, we, we could have maybe brought Firmino on it, but earlier, especially with Pentake being as, as poor as he was, I think Firmino has been poor though recently. Like, I mean, I, I thought he was poor again yesterday. Yeah. He just looks, I don't know. He looks a little like, not sure about what he's trying to be on, like, fucking as if he's bamboozled by the whole enterprise at the moment, I don't know what he's doing. Like, you know, it's like, and it's a funny one because he's coming out to the press saying I didn't really get a chance under Rogers and I had injuries, no, but now Klopp understands me and I really feel that my best form is going to come. And then it doesn't. No, I don't know why we haven't tried the away formation at all. I don't know why he hasn't tried for me, you know, LaLanna and Coutinho. I thought, I actually thought that would have been the game to deal it in because you had the forebricks in. Yeah. Yeah. Pull them out. Pull them apart. Yeah. Yeah. Especially with Henderson, as you said, but Henderson there prepared to do the runs as well in behind them. You know, you, you would have got a bit more space in the, let's talk about the goal because the open goal, because to be fair, it's probably one of our best meals of the season. Yeah. And it's a great goal. It's like, there's a great, there's just combinations on over the place. Yeah. So I think Benteca wins it in the corner, lays it off to Coutinho. That's a great ball from, I mean, if I was being harsh, I would say, Benteca should be where LaLanna is and LaLanna should be where Benteca is. I mean, really, you know, but anyway, it's a great ball and no other midfielder than the Henderson makes that run. I mean, it's just a great, great run from Henderson, great header. I was fucking amazed LaLanna when that. Oh, you imagine. Oh, yeah. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's. And I was like, what? And he could finish. So it's a really good goal now. And hopefully that's a sign of things to come from Henderson, you know, again, playing, I'd play him further forward, Lucas behind him, getting bombing on because that's what we're going to need to break those teams down at home is midfielders getting past the striker. The thing that I actually liked about Benteca yesterday was on a couple of occasions in the first 20, 25 minutes, he tried to ship that ball a yard out from under his feet and get a shot off. Now, it didn't happen, but we've seen him score plenty of goals for Villa like that. And it's something he hasn't been there. He's nearly been. It's like because he's been lacking a little bit of confidence. He's been too cautious in his, in his approach and his play. And yesterday he was looking to just step that ball out of the yard beyond the defender to get the angle and get a shot off and that was nice to see and hopefully you can bring that into his game. He needs a bit of fucking arrogance, but he needs a fucking rocket, a disaster goal. I hate to make the comparison, right? But like, there's a huge element to Husky, but there is. There is. Don't biggest frustration. I remember the biggest frustration. How are people eating you? Look how big you are. Look, when he used to get occasionally angry, yeah, he'd be bashing lads all over the shop and he used to scar all his goals when you when you got angry, Husky, you got like a really good football. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I think when you have angry Benteca, you have a much better football. Look, angry Benteca was the player that hasn't turned up since. Yeah. Because he's knocking lads all over the shop that day. I mean, it's a bit mad. We seem to have all these constituent parts of the squad was just on work together. It's like we've got Firmino and you can kind of need the team around him to make him successful. And he's a 30 million pound player and then you've got Benteca and you go, really, really going to build a team on him to be successful. And he's a 30 million pound player. And then you've got Coutinho, who you need to play in a certain way. You've got Sturridge. You need to play in a certain way. And all of a sudden, it's like, I have some simply, I have a lot of sympathy with the club, but he's going, fucking hell, did anyone actually sit down and think about how you'd get all these in and see him taking? He's nothing. You know, thinking on no thought on. Isn't it hard though? You can't really level that a club. No, no, no. It's not a club. The only thing is though, like he was the one that was blowing the players all over the summer as well. I don't know. I have no. I don't know. What's thinking? I don't know. What was he doing? What was silly man? What was silly man? I mean, he was definitely like, do you know what I'm saying? But I mean, so I do on the bent-head game thing and I'm just like, he must be scratching his head going. I don't know how to, I can't quite figure out how to put this in. You know, we actually, and I know we only played a few games, but we could really do it with Danny Ings at the moment. Fucking right. Yeah. That's so cool. In terms of, I didn't listen. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. He's talking about it. Pons I shake. No, I don't know. Yeah, like, there's a massive spot for him there if he was around the squad at this stage. Just for what he could add in terms of – I said it last week, I think he's the type of forward that club would have loved to have when he came in, because we're talking about movement in a front tree, right? And given the injuries, the storage and the whole lot, and trying to get confidence into a rigor, which we seem to be getting into. Yeah, you could play him across any of the front three positions, though. I think Ings would have got a lot of game time feeling here now, and I think it would have eased the pressure a little bit on Bentek, as well. You could have played the two of them together, you know what I mean? And that is the problem. Every time we seem to play Bentek, he's up there on his own. And you can say what you – look, I'm trying to think, are there any – maybe Giroud, he's had a couple of good – are there any teams playing one striker up top at the moment that are really sort of – is it already playing up top on his own? City play, Bonnie. Yep, front on his own. Yeah, but even him. He's isolated so much of the – it's like this idea was a great idea for a couple of seasons, and everybody has done it, everybody's moved their teams that way. But similarly, the teams that are down lower have to come up with a way to combat that. But I think the way he normally – the way he has set up previously in that system means that the players behind the fellow who's up front scores goals as well, and one of the big problems we have is that we're not getting the regular scorers from, like, the likes of Milner. Milner was chipping in and the goal to sort of droid up. Yep, the way he's worried about that is scored all season, right? Yeah, that's where it ended. At any game to droid up. Yeah, yeah. And he should have scored just like – He should have scored just like – he should have scored just like that. He should have scored just like that. It's a bad finish. You should have to score that goal into it. I can never understand when a player gets into that situation, he has time. He has to lift the ball. Because if he plays it low like that in the keeper spreads, like, we've seen Schmuyker do it for years. We've seen like – that's why the goalkeeper spread that way. It's the biggest sort of distance they can cover. Listen. You know, Suarez, Messi, you know, they can keep the ball on the deck and stick it away. Because they know – they are hitting it absolutely perfect 99% at the time. But someone like Lelana, when they get in front of goal – you're right, they should be lifting the ball and trying to at least make it more difficult. It's too easy for the keeper to just spread themselves and you try and stick it under his legs. Well, they should know that the goalkeepers are going to – most of the goalkeepers are going to react that way. So if you lift the ball at least, once you get enough height on it, you're going to lift the ball. I mean, it's not just Lelana. I mean, Coutinho misses a sitter in the first half. I thought Henderson's shots were fucking terrible all down the throat of the goalkeeper, but Coutinho then – I mean, just that is one of his bad days, yes, in terms of shooting. Like, fucking hell, it's not that hard from 10 yards out, like, put it in the corner. Why is it so difficult to put it in the corner? Henderson's shots were very Stevie Gesk in the sense of – do you remember when Jared had fucking 18 months where he wouldn't put his laces through the ball? The side footed it into the – it was like he was warming the keeper up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just warming the keeper up. Take a few shots. I mean, I really were kicking off him for a minute. Ready? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what it was. It was very tame. It was nearly like he was yet again with his foot injury, maybe afraid to really – really go through it. – put his fucking foot through it. Yeah, maybe so, you know. Yeah. Because to be fair, to a fucking reiki, you know, at least he's fucking wet at it. What – let's talk about our Belgian wonder forward. You know, in fairness – the first couple of games, especially with the injured them, but Becky was out in storage, so he looked like a little boy lost on the pitch, right? Those goals against Southampton, he looks a different player, doesn't he? Yeah, of course. I mean, any striker does. You know, Ben, Becky gets a hat trick against Southampton. He'd gone in there with a completely different – it's what, goals change strikers. It's just that simple. You know what I mean? There's no two ways about it. And he's, you know, he's got confidence, and you can see that in him, and actually, Klopp has obviously worked on a few things with him, and younger players tend to listen more to managers. That's the reality. Like, do you know what has been taking? He's so special in that, wasn't he? Ooh. Reiki. I like it. I never imagined him to be as big as he is. Yeah. Like he is. He's a big – like, when he comes on, it's not like there's – here's the – here's the envelope coming off from the ceiling. No, no, no, no, no. So does Para House comes on? Yeah, he is. He is a big lad. I suppose, you know, the players are human as well, and he wasn't having good games. So, you know, the first couple of times, he goes, "Ah, for fuck's sake." The next time you think twice about whether you play that ball to him or not, or, you know, or you delay the pass, because you think, "Is he going to – you know, those little things do creep in, makes it more difficult for him." He goes and scores a hat trick. Yeah. All of a sudden, the players around him start to have more confidence. He's scoring different types of goals as well, to be fair to him. I mean, I know he hasn't scored loads, but the goals he's scoring are all kind of different types of goals. Yeah, absolutely. I did enjoy his celebration as if, like, he just put whatever for 40 yards. It's like – it's like – of course, I meant to bang it off the west from the fence. That's what I'm aiming for. That's what I'm aiming for. You lads. You lads. Don't do that. You just hit it straight in. That's weird. Why would you do that? Like, the flexions are much better. And the other thing I liked about it was, Firmino was celebrating before he had gone in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, whatever he was looking at, he was like, "That's gone in." Yeah. That's just like – That just shows you the vision of Firmino. That's it. We've got to get that guy in the team. So, but I just thought – I thought it really looked really good. And I think, as I said, I think he's genuinely – so, you'll probably – I think he's genuinely put in Bentek in the pressure for his place. No. Who knows? Maybe Sturridge is fit for Watford. But we're away, so maybe he'll play Firmino up front, I don't know. Yeah. Well, he's not going to start Sturridge against Watford anyway. Yeah. But I do think the way we're trying to play may suit Origi now compared to the way it did earlier in the season. Yeah. So, that's the other side of it as well, because the players have bought into his ideals – you know, you're reading a lot of stuff now, but he has the same points average per game as what Rogers had. But this is how Bob looks like. This is like what he had after fucking three years. This fellow is only in the job a few months, and we can't even talk. But let's look at something, you know, the walk. What was going on in the Soilland? Because he was fucking – I was wild. I was brilliant. He was absolutely really – I was literally sitting there, and I just went – I loved it. It was just mental. I would rather have to just stop showing a match with it, right? I'm just showing him. The club can. The sky, whoever, I have to just get the club come and just keep it on and on and on. But people think – I mean, first of all, it's all calculated, right? The club's not just some – he is a bit of a lunatic, but he's not just some fucking lunatic, right? No. He knows that Anfield is like a library, and he's gone all right then. Yeah. I'll be the fucking entertainment. Yeah. If I need to be a fucking clown, I'll be the clown. And I'll fucking intimidate the linesman, and I'll intimidate the other manager, and I'll fucking shout and scream and – And let's be honest. We as fans, especially Liverpool fans, react to that. They love it. They fucking laugh at it. Look at that yesterday, though. 2-1 down to West Brom. You wouldn't have heard a fucking pin drop in there six weeks ago. Yeah. And people just go – This is bollocks. And you can't tell me that that doesn't have an impact on the team, because suddenly we had six players in there fucking bollocks. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just go for it. Exactly. Because they then realise the crowd aren't just sitting there going, "Fuck this." The crowd are saying – Come on the fuck. It's 3-1. Fuck it. It doesn't matter. It's trying to make it too old. Well, look at the difference between that reaction and United, right? I mean, United would have no problem. They don't care – they care about losing, but they want to lose in a particular way. Yeah. They want to lose having a go, not doing sideways passes. So when United were losing the boardmouth, they were still knocking it around in their back four. Whereas we're fucking going for it. Yeah. I think the crowd – I think what club did yesterday was – Brilliant. Brilliant. I think that it will actually have a long-term impact on – The crowd. Yeah. Because the crowd will go – they're going to go for it now. So we'll stay and we'll support them and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. And him walking over and going and getting the players together and saying, "No, go and say fucking thank you for them, you know, staying and clapping you and all that." Yeah. But you know, listen, the type of thing is obviously going to, you know, order fans. Mmm. Like, I literally haven't read a single thing on it because I just don't give a fuck. As I was saying to you yesterday, this wouldn't have been unusual even when the Dortmund team were – when he had them in the relegation zone last year, he used to get the team to go down and talk to the fans. Remember, Hummel – it was a Hummel zone on the railings. Oh, on the railings. Chatting to the actual fans. Yeah. Talk. I apologize on the fans for what had just gone on on the Hummel. Yeah. But listen, what people should be – people who are criticizing it – and I saw Tony Evans writing an article saying that he'd mission either or whatever, he shouldn't have done it or whatever, "Fucking stupid." But what's criminal about this is that players don't do this normally, that this is – like, that they don't go and say thanks to the fans as a matter of fucking course. Yeah. It's such an unusual event that a manager has told his players to go and say thank you to their fans. It's so unusual. It's so, you know, out of character for the Premier League, that's what people should be writing about. Well, I think it was the hand-holding probably, it was more so the – It's been enjoyed the hand-holding. Yeah. Hey. Who does a – we're all good hands right now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We don't have a good hand-off. We're trying to concentrate. I remember, I remember, you know, with Arsenal and it happened, was it Ozil tried to fuck off the pitch after they've lost, and I think it was Merta Zachar. I could be wrong on that, but I think it was Merta Zachar sent him back and said, "No, get over there and fucking clap the fans that have come down to watch that fight," you know what I mean? So it does happen with other fans. It's just the way in which we did it. And you know what? Absolutely. As I said a couple of times now, I trust Klopp in whatever his ideas are, because as you said, he's not just doing it for back pages, he's not doing it for just to be fucking the class clown, he's doing it for calculated reasons. And also, he's doing it because we just drew a West Brom. Yeah. So he's like, "Let them write about me, let them say that I am," you know, and it was a great article by Tony Barret today saying, "That's what Klopp has done is he's made everything about him in the last few weeks." Take the focus. All the mistakes have been his. Like when we lost to Newcastle, it was his fault. Minnily fucking up, that's his fault. Sturridge getting injured, his fault. So Klopp is going, "I'm the biggest man in this club." Yeah. They had a minder. I'm okay with that. I'm okay with that. So you won't see loads of articles today about Minnily or about it, you know, any of this kind of stuff. It's all about Klopp and people are criticizing, either supporting him or criticizing him. Like, I'd be honest with you, I was like, "They're going, this is great." Fucking great. But then I was asked to take myself. That was some winner team. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Ah, knock it in. Who are you? Yeah, you would slaughter them, of course, but like, you know, in terms of us as a fan base, knowing what's been wrong with Anfield for so long, I think it could, as Dave said, it could have a massive effect on how the crowd react. That's why I was like, "They're gone." If I didn't know about this, they've missed what's been going on here for the last four over six years. Yeah. The only time we've had an atmosphere was on that run in towards... Yeah, for four months. If he'd sent the players over to the crowd, right, and the gesture was interpreted as the players are apologizing, right, let's say the players are going over and said, "That was shit." Yeah. Sorry for that. You get no criticism at all. People think that he's celebrating. He's not fucking celebrating. He's saying, "Thank you." He's saying, "Thank you." For the first. And sports are communal thing. You watch any other sport. You know, you watch Wimbledon, or you watch a tennis match and they win. The first thing they do is go into the crowd and like throw their stuff in and say, "Thanks on all that kind of stuff." Yeah. The crowd. So it's crazy that it's so unusual. And what would you have paid to say and punch the lights out of Tony Piulos? Ah, fucking hell. I love the fact that he wouldn't shake his hand. It's when he does that cross team thing. And his bottom jaw goes down and he's just gone, "Ahhh." He's a fool. Yeah. Yeah. It's just fucking brilliant. Yeah. He just looks absolutely insane at that moment. And then he'll turn around and smile at the light and then I go, "Yeah, no problem. Yeah." He was going mad, right? The referee came over and said, "Calm down." And he went, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." And the ref turned around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He goes, "Go, go, go, go." He arms around the left. Oh, it's fucking brilliant. He doesn't give a fuck. He goes, "Go, go, go, go, go." And he shouldn't do that. He's fucking right. He's absolutely right. And as I said, I mean, look, he's ours. Yeah. Right? So I don't give a fuck if anyone else has taken a piss out of him. You know, United fans take the piss out of you. You would absolutely do. The piss out of you tomorrow. There's no club in the Premier League right now that wouldn't swap their manager. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I'll say, like, you know, I'm one that would have said before, I hate these messianic managers and stuff like the way we put that on. But look, he's the messiah. I know I'm fucking on on board. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to follow the Holy Guard all the way to the end of the season. So let's be honest, right? As a fan base, we have had, you know, six years since, you know, we came second under Rafa. And even then, people were like split on Rafa. So six years of divided camps when it comes to the manager. So finally, you appoint a manager that has credibility, has caliber, character, and yeah. All right. It's not his team. He said, there's going to be bumps in the road, you know what I mean? But to be honest with you, after beating City the way we beat them, like, if that's what he can do, then I can accept the rest. Yeah. That's what that's the pinnacle. That's what he's on his good day. That's what he can get. I haven't freaked out at the Newcastle loss. I haven't freaked out at that when we were, you know, you're going off for fuck's sake. Of course you are. It's frustrating to lose any match. So, you know, but what you're saying in the back of your mind is everybody else is fucking up. Okay. It should be a time at which we're capitalizing and really getting ourselves and establishing there's, we should be in there a sort of third spot, fourth spot. That's where you're looking at it. You're looking at saying, let's overtake Spurs and United for the moment and then really a nesser because they have to, variety of stops going goals or whatever are happening. Get injured. Yeah. Yeah. Stuff will happen whereby, do you know what I mean? That's the story there. You know, I'm sort of saying to myself, we can have all these hiccups in this first season and hopefully still finish fourth in the same way Van Hal did last year. You know, get, just get four. Just get there. And then when the summer comes along, you've got Champions League football, you've got revenue from it and you've Jurgen Klopp to be able to go on a track. And he will then be able to try and buy the type of players that he's doing. Plus, we're out of the Europa League group stages now, which obviously had an impact. If I'm being honest, he picked the wrong team against Ceon. You know what I mean? I don't know whether Fatigue had an impact or whatever, but you know, for him not to play Lucas in Switzerland and then not play him at the weekend, same with Alan. You know, I think he made some errors in the team selection, but look, he's clearly taking the approach that he's going to play a strong side in every competition. And I'll probably be a little bit of that as well as about him going, I want to really stress test these guys and see who I can rely on, who I can't, you know, because he's not going to get enough opportunity to see some of them otherwise. So we haven't got that any further. So, you know, we've got a week to prepare for Watford now. We've got to beat Watford. That's the reality. But Spurs lost a Newcastle. Yeah. You know, absolutely. The very next week. People are saying they've... Steve McLaren is the manager of the month. Right. People are saying the Pochettino's got Spurs. They're going to get fourth, you know, Chelsea have fallen away or whatever. But there we go. They lose a Newcastle. Okay. Look, let's wind it on to the weekend. I'm not sure. Segue for me. I have to talk about Watford. As I said at the statuses, I didn't even know Watford were in the league. Right? I don't know if they were about that. So, yeah, they're fucking a couple of points above us. And to be honest with you, like, I thought, when I saw Keke Sanchez-Flowers, I was right there going, "Who's he managing?" Yeah. What's going on here? There's no Keke. What? What? Yeah. So, my research in Watford has been, as you can see, has been in depth. So, do we know any other place for them? They're very good now. But they've got a Gallo up front in Danny. Yeah. And Danny. And they've got a, they're very good straightforward. He's on fire, actually, a Gallo. A Gallo. Yeah. Yeah. He's second top scorer in the battleships. Yeah. So, they're a good outfit now. And they play a nice football. And... Danny's doing so much work for a Gallo. Yeah. He's not scoring the goals. Mm-hmm. But he's getting a huge amount of the plaudits. Yeah. Because he's, you know, they've, they've, they've struck up one of these partnerships. Yeah. You know what I mean? And your man, Gomez isn't go for him. Remember he used to play for him. Yeah, he's having a good season as well. No, look, he was critical of his sports for some of the, but he also did some brilliant things when he's there. Oh, yeah. He's very good there. He's, to me, he's always been a mini-lay level keeper. Yeah. And you know what? Mini-lay would look good and go for what for it as well. Yeah. You know, because... That's what you need at that level. Exactly. Exactly. You know what I mean? You don't, you know, they're not quite good enough for Champions League level clubs or clubs aspiring for Champions League. They're that step down. You know what I mean? So he looks brilliant. You know, a match of the day or the odd live match, you know, and sometimes he just fakes an injury to come after him. Yeah, but we're away. We're away from home and they aren't necessarily parking the bus. So it's probably the sort of away game we want. They like to play football. Yeah. And that should suit us. Yeah. As in, they're going to come out a little bit. They press like we do. We have better players. Yeah. Therefore, I mean... That's why we're two points behind them. Yeah. We've got, right, so we've got SACO coming back. I only want to think it's not going to be a straight Swapsi for Lovren, because he's only got one leg left now for SACO. Well, Lovren's definitely out to SACO or SACO, I think just PSN today, they'll start. I wouldn't be overly worried if it was Colo. Colo for one game isn't too bad. Yeah, he's not too bad. If you're relying on him, he goes down. Those two lads could cause him trouble, you know, they've had good movement in the matches that I see. That's not an image, an image I did while I sent him back. Yeah. I mean, if we needed to, I think he did. Yeah. It's just interesting. Look, you could see it. He was stepping into midfield again, and he was going on an amazing dribble with the pack when he was at center back. But we needed it. We had to get an equalizer. Yeah, of course. That's what you want, sir. The other thing is, it's the first week the club has had without a mid-week game or an international break. And to be able to have six days now, it's not Sunday again, is it? It's Sunday, yeah. It is Sunday, yeah. It is on the fucking hill. These Sunday games are killer. So you've got six days to what you call it, to get the lads together, get a proper number of sessions in, because he's not having to prep for a game in two days' time, have a recovery day, then have a day to prep for the next, you know? Well, we've got nine games in 39 days now, so we've got a lot of games coming up like you know. So, I mean, I think that... What is the start of it? This is the start of the Christmas madness. And actually, I think in the nine games, we've got, I think, Leicester's like the toughest game. Yeah, the toughest game. We should... We've got to run on paper. Until we hit Arsenal and you know, we'll go back to back, isn't it? We've got Stoke in the car and cup and stuff like that, or Capra, one cup or whatever. But so on paper, we should have a good run. But I mean, saying that, I would have expected six points from Newcastle on West Brom. But you weren't looking at that. So we've got to be what, for that's a reality, but it will be a tough game. We were sitting here a few weeks ago saying we should be looking at 13 points from 15. I'm not going to get it. And we've only got one out of six. That was the start of those start running games. Yeah. We've got 12 out of 10 and what you do is you need to double in a match. Can we do a double win? Yeah. And if you get a score draw, it's like when you used to do the pools. Actually, if you get a score draw, you have an extra point. If you end a 21's win as well, you're going to an extra point. Oh, it's still achievable. Yeah. You're probably using the double win system. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. In a parallel universe. So who do we start the prunter? Do you start the rig? Are you for me? Yeah. You scored four goals in three games. Why not play a player that's high on confidence rather than a player that's low on confidence? Yeah. Either. I mean, I'd probably sit Bintech out and play a Reggio Firmino. I suppose it's two schools I thought Bintech, it probably just needs a goal and suddenly maybe he turns into that angry monster that we all hope he's going to turn into. But I'd probably drop him out. He's probably a more fluid. I just want to see us, I'm interested in what is his, he's got a whole week to play with his to build his team. What is that team? If that's Firmino, Coutino, and Alana. I'm happy to see that as well, especially with Henderson in midfield now. Exactly. Well, I think if you have Lucas and you have Chan and Henderson in front of him, and then you had Firmino, Alana, and Coutinho, you're going to have a lot of runners past, well, at least you have Henderson. I mean, I think you're going to have a lot of runners, and by that, I mean one runner past. And then I think he's got a one runner past. Bintech and Rege, Bintech and Rege, Ib, Milner, all on a bench. That's a strong bench. That's a strong bench. Come on and change. Maybe Sturridge if Sturridge is fit, comes back. I mean, I think the rest of the team kind of picks itself, although I think Merino, after the way Brad Smith played in the capital on top of things, Merino's under a bit of pressure. So do we think Brad Smith, like with this runner games, you're going to have... You're going to have... You're going to definitely have players in and out because people are going to people that smile knocks even just, you know, wants to talk to us again. We may. I know Brad Smith had a good game, and he really did, and I won't knock him. You kicked the fair few players on the whole. I was just going to say, I see no point in playing Brad Smith at left full. If you're going to play LaLana from Eno and continue from... If you're going to go with Bintech, if you're going to spread the games whereby people are going to come in and come out, be sensible about putting him in when he's got something to aim at. The delivery of the ball was excellent, both in the Southampton game and in the C on game. Well, what I'm interested to see is that the move went off Olegi if he was playing there and you had someone do like that, because the one thing he did against Southampton was he didn't just attack the back post all the time. So if you... Let's not beat that Chelsea, 1-0. Yeah. Greatness. Brad, he just scored. Yeah. He's on another run of 12 games this time. Brad, he hates scoring goals, doesn't he? Yeah. You know, he's got... Stay tuned to your lads for an update. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder who's going to say... Someone's going to sign him and I'm going to realise he's the next America steward. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. But like, you know, that's the thing about Olegi, I want to see, is that run that he made against Southampton, an actual thing or was it just a one-off? Because if he makes that type of run, he's going to score goals because that's how storage scores are not a lot of goals. He just beats players through the front post and flicks the ball back across goal. Yeah, absolutely. Exactly. I think we have a lot... I mean, it's just about finding the right combination. We have lots of options, lots of different strengths, lots of personnel in the side. That, you know, I'm interested to see what he does with the players and, you know, what's his number one kind of formation, you know? Okay. We rounded it off. The draft of Europa, Augsburg Away. Yeah. As teams can go, it's a relatively favourable draw. Yeah, it is. And away from home first. Away from home. They're doing fairly poorly and... Yeah. They aren't the team... They're 13 to 14 to think. And they've won four matches this season in the last phase. I mean, you know, club probably knows them pretty well. Yeah. So you would fancy the team goal. I know what to beat them, like, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it was good. I mean, when we did a serious rounds now, this is why we should be playing strong teams and we should be doing all right. You know, so I like the Europa League. I know a lot of people have a lot of criticism about it, but I like it. I think it's... And it's clearly a tournament that he's taken seriously. Money runs, we know. Away from the final. Five. Yes. Four rounds to the final. Four rounds to the final. And then the final. So there's five rounds of games left to lift the cup, basically. That's grand, so... Yeah. That's fast in the bag. Well, you know what? We're winning that. The thing is, he really... He's a smart enough manager to not just be using this as a second round or a second rate competition. He's going to look at this and say, Champions League at the end of this. Be sensible about this and say, "Okay, we will try our damnedest to get for it." But fuck it. You know what I mean? Let's look at this as a viable option. And there's not many teams in that... You know, when we're looking at how we can play and how we've played against City and Chelsea, there's not many teams in that competition that I'd be too worried about. Look, the reality is, right, I think what he's shown so far is he is not a manager that looks at any game and goes, "I don't mind if I lose this." Yes. Yeah. He wants to win every game. Yeah. Yeah. And people rightly criticise him for that, right? Because the squad maybe won't be able to handle it. And our record after the Europa League would suggest that we'd be doing better in the league if we had played... No, Europe. Yeah. Europe. But he's not going to do that. So everyone's just going to have to get on board with that. He's not the character that's going to go, "I'm going to play a bad side because I don't care if I lose this game." He wants to win every game. It's basically him saying he doesn't want to give anybody an out. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's saying, "I'm not giving any of you an excuse to blame something for a poor performance. Keep your standard tie." Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Happy out. Happy out. And fly into Munich. You are. And if you want to go to the Oxford game, the Away Lake Forest, you do fly into Munich so you could have a two-city destination. Three tour. Yeah. No, I'd have to get a last trip to Germany. Yeah. Which we can't talk about. You didn't have to fucking go on it. You didn't have to stay with you, Stevie. Yeah. True. And have everything on the McDonalds menu. Twice. And one from my friend Trevor, who's going to die because of this trip. Yeah, yeah. Trevor's not being seen since Germany. We've never seen Trevor since. Well, I was just running wheeling and you're listening to "Trippa Chats." Unbelievable stuff. You asked me anything about Liverpool, FC. I will answer that immediately. I'm an encyclopedia. As you know, I played for Liverpool in the 1980s. What many trophies. I played with the likes of Kenny Daggle each crime soon as we wanted to want a team we were. We were just unbelievable. Anyway, "Trippa Chats." You see. Well, I saw him on the trailer for some movies. Did you see? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Sorry. I said to my wife, I said, "Come on, have a look at this." I said, "One of the lads, I do the podcast with this in a movie." And the first shot of the movie is some boots. I'm taking her fucking, you know, a little purple tongue. Oh, she's like... I got on myself. I can get on board with this. Yeah. Next minute, then, I go... She has a great artist as well. I was like, "Your trip walks in, not a make-a-good. I fucking do it." Then next to the pants, the trev and the band lookin' shit. I was looking shifty. I was looking shifty. I was waiting to see your finger and gloves. I was thinking about your fingerless gloves. It was that with the trev head from talking Germany with the fair and everything along. Oh. So I say, "Well, this must be a different trailer." I don't know if this is not a fucking trev. So, yeah, trev, the actor. Is it in Irish, the movie? No. 'Cause I didn't understand a word she was saying in there. She's Russian and Trev's from Navan, so that's understandable. It's in the most part, I'm just trying to get up. Yeah. I can't wait. I'm actually going to go see that movie. I don't know where it's on. I'll just get my guess. Here's Trev, so we do DVD. We should have like a trip as a thing. It's not out till 2016. Isn't it? No. I don't know. I think they don't want to go ahead. They don't want to go ahead. They don't want to go ahead to Star Wars. Yeah. I heard George Lucas paid them a few for the step over a week or two. They're worried about the opening weekend in Star Wars versus Trev, you know? So for all your Trev heads out there, Daria at the movie is coming in 2016, to select its cinemas, we might be selling them on the Trev, but we'll be banging out and burn DVD. If you get a sign, so if you ever want to see Trev in a porno, it's a good film. How do you know it's a good film? Well, it's won a couple of awards. He paid me the same. I should have. It doesn't mean to do these things. He doesn't know what a good footballer is either, but he's on here every fucking week. So yeah, it's been over a few awards. I want something in Mexico and it is... You put something in Mexico. Everyone in Nevada would say international awards first. The second, both made up. They're actually just under can. And I am making a day there, because the can, there's Sundance, there's the Montreal, and then there's Nevada in Mexico. Mexico. The Mexican film industry. But there is a lot of people who love Trev out there, and this was before Trev died, so he's actually alive in the film, and you can see him in the film. Some of his acting is... I've seen a range of the emotions. He's put them on here a few times. I've seen a few emotions from Trev, usually in murderous rage. Looking at us for a notch in the fuck-up, so we can go to the next segue. 20. Come on. No. Try words anyway, on the topic of television programs. Yes. Anything you want to watch in over the Christmas time? No. No? No? Nothing. What is your favourite Christmas movie? Santa Claus movie. Yeah? With Dudley Moore? Yeah. I was talking about that. Is there... No, I'm not asking what's the greatest. I'm asking, is it your actual favourite Christmas movie? There are... It's one of the... I watch it every time it comes on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Santa Claus movie. It's brilliant. I love Elphino. I do love Elphino. Yeah. No, Elph is right up there for me. Or Die Hard. Die Hard. Yeah. Like, well, I just... I love Christmas. I'm not gonna lie, like, I really fucking... I've no kids. Steve, what people don't realise is that you have an 18 for Christmas tree in your living room. It is true. You have 1000 decorations that you love from Grafton Street. There's kids... It's not quite 18, but... It's not quite 18, but... He's also been on his pre-Christmas diet. Yeah. No, I'm off. I'm off that now. It was a pre-Christmas diet to carry the Christmas tree home from Grafton Street. Oh, you wanted the fucking way to that thing. It was 13 and a half feet when it came into the house. Oh, really? Yeah. It was really... And I chopped nearly two feet off it so we could get the star on and then put two and a half thousand lights on it. Yeah. It's very bright. It's very nice. It looks nice, though. It does look nice. It does look nice. I can see it from a house on week now. In fairness, you tell me that. I just kept taking a nashin' on Christmas vacation. That's exactly what I did. Yeah. And then he has to chop down the next ornate. The one that fucking comes through the window. What's it gonna say? No, Christmas movies... Yeah, because I do honestly fucking love Christmas, I just have a folder of movies and I watch them every year. So, like ones that, like, proper fucking rom-coms and everything. I was watching them. Well, love actually. Love actually. The family stone. Fucking... While you were sleeping with Sandra Bullock. Oh, fuck off. See what I'm saying? Like this one talking about... Then you've got Elf. You've got fucking... Elf is... You've got... Home Alone, obviously. Home Alone 2. Yeah. You've got... Let me see now... Gremlins is one of my favourite Christmas movies. Gremlins. I don't watch Gremlins as a Christmas movie, to be honest with you. I just don't. It's not in there. It's got fucking tons of others. I'm trying to think off top my head now, but... What's your answer? Well, Santa Claus... Santa Claus the movie... The Santa Claus, which is... No, I'm not there, Santa Claus. The four Santa Claus is actually quite... Yeah, it's after that it goes... Bad Santa. Bad Santa. The Grinch. What's the one wearing a sword in a grinder? Jingle on the way. Yeah. The other one decked the halls, returning to Vino. Yeah. Matthew Broderick. Yeah. There we go. What else? I just love watching them all. It just gets me into Christmassy mood. And then you've got Scrooge. You've got Scrooge. Oh, the Muppets Christmas Carol. Yeah, the Muppets Christmas Carol. The Muppets Christmas Carol. There's no four of them. So you've got the Momma Jim Carrey, which I love. You've got the Muppets Christmas Carol. You've got the old school Christmas Carol. And then you've got Scrooge with Bill Murray, which is fucking brilliant. Plus, it's a wonderful life. It's a wonderful life. It's amazing as well. It can't be that like, you know? Yeah. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. Oh, you pretty chair. Well, I think on that, he was 90 yesterday. Was he? Yeah. 90 yesterday. Not a fan of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. The original. Yeah. Oh, I love it. With Gene Waller. I love the sounds. Yeah. Because I love the umpelomps. They're deadly, right? It's better than a Johnny Depp one, which is utter fucking muck. Oh, my God. Yeah. Where he plays my guitar. Gene Waller is just a little bit fucking freaky in it though. Yeah. He's just on the boat. He's going to come with me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Your imagination. Yeah. And then the start's going all trippy. All of a sudden, the Beatles decided to get involved. And then it was a fucking acid trip down the boat. I actually know. I tell a lot. It is a great movie. Yeah. It is a great movie. No, I was thinking Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was a shit movie. Yeah. Chitty Chitty Bang was not great. Chitty Chitty Bang Bang has its obvious. That's your woman. I am truly scrumptious. No. Your woman. The nanny. Oh, Mary Poppins. That's the one. Yeah. I do like Mary Poppins. Yeah. Mary Poppins is under it. It's not very realistic. But it's a great movie. It's in the same for Star Wars, to be honest, you know? Well, we don't know. Because it was a galaxy far, far away. So we don't know what's going on over there. This is London and Victorian times. We weren't there either. Interesting how they all speak English, though, didn't it? What? In a galaxy far, far away. Yeah. They all speak English. It's just handy. Just handy. Well, they all must have had exactly the same evolutionary process as the human race. Yeah. As we know, that's what always happens. Exactly. Yeah. It's convenient. It's convenient. So yeah, Christmas movies. That's a lot of Christmas movies. That is a lot of Christmas movies. That is a lot of Christmas movies. What's your favorite Christmas song then? Oh, I'll tell you. Right? I know it's Coronius Folk, but last Christmas, boy, wham. I absolutely adore that. Yeah. I had a chat with the missus there the other day. And we were saying, if you could pick one song that you were responsible for having written, to take the credit as that being your song. And she chose a great one straight away. She said, "War is over by John Lennon." And that is a fucking amazing song. It doesn't have to be a Christmas song. Yeah. Yeah. It has to be a Christmas song that you have to pick. And then I was sort of saying, "Okay, you've got quite Christmas. You've got wham, last Christmas." And there's a couple of others. Like, you've got fucking Band-Aid as well, which was a Christmas. I mean, tune. Let me just clarify the rules. Do you want to take the credit for it because you'd make more money from it? No, well, you want to take the credit from it because then it's like, no, because it's not about necessarily the royalties, but just in terms of the kudos. To be proud of it. Yeah. To be proud of the song. One of the songs that always makes me feel happy, and I know the songs shouldn't make you feel that, but stop the cavalry. Yeah. I don't even know why that's a fucking Christmas. It just says Christmas in it. It's not a Christmas song. And there's bells in it. Yeah. I like whole plays as well. E-17. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Then I've got some opportunity. My favourite Christmas song is "Step Into Christmas" by Alton John. I think it's a great song. It's a great song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a Christmas song. Step Into Christmas. It's a good song. It's a good song. It's a good song. It's a great song. It's a great song. It's a proper one that you find just have popping around with the trolley and you're going to be a super market fucking scary. It's a good Christmas. The pogs been done today. I'm sick of it. I'm fucking sick of it. I do love the pogs song, but you have to not hear it for a couple of years. Call the line, "Thank you." Which is impossible to not hear it. Yeah. So if you enjoy it. If you can hear it for two or two years, and then you hear it go, "Beltar." Yeah. Yeah. But you hear it a whole hundred and forty times. The darkness is great. Oh yeah. I like something with a bit of upbeat. I don't like the whole mordelinch. I love Roy Wood and Wizardly. Yeah. It's a great one. And Slade. Slade. Yeah. I never tore it out with songs. Yeah. Because you never hear the line of classics. Yeah. And shake it a little bit. And shake it a little bit. Oh yeah. Can't be shaky. Yeah. Shaky, shaky. Right. Oh yeah. These tripletats. Yeah. What I'll be known as when I get Parkinson's. Shaky, Stevie. No, you want to be known as that Wobbly. Yeah. Jello, man. You're known as that. Anyway. Yeah. I'll just jiggle this. It's a dark alley. A dark alley. Who do you want to meet? And who do you not want to meet in a dark alley? So you're in a dark alley, who do you want to meet? Yeah. Batman. Yeah. Batman. He'd only be there to beat the head off you. I don't know if I kicked the shit out of it. No, but let's talk about Batman. He's a multi-millionaire public school boy who dresses in black as a bat. He's not tough for talk. Why would anyone be scared of Batman? Well, he's got an armored suit. And his best friend is his butler. Yeah. Fucking pussy. Seriously. But like a Superman, not like worse. Superman's an alien. Even still though. In a cape though. In a cape. And his jocks on the outside of his toy. Superman could fly so fast that he could turn back time. Yeah. Which is fucking ridiculous. I hate that movie. Fly so fast, the Earth spins the wrong way. Yeah. I fucking hate that movie. That's better. The end really goes backwards to save that minger. Yeah. Sick. If you were Superman. And you could have 80 woman in the world. Why would you have her? Because you're not better than you. Nothing better to do. There's laws better to do. Anyway, Superman has crap. Superman. No, Superman's not. But do you think Batman in tight is worse? Batman's a pussy, yeah. Alright, fair enough. That doesn't answer the question of who would you like and who would you not like. You're just completely decided. So he'd like to beat me Batman so I could tell that he's a pussy. Plus he'd be in a alley. And then I'd like to meet Superman so he could save me from Batman. When it turns out he's not quite the pussy I thought he was. Plus he'd be in an alley which is where his parents got shot. So I feel like you're just taunting. Do you remember? Yeah. This is where it happened. Yeah. Last time you were here I didn't work out to fucking help me. So walk on my head. Shout out, Batboy. Why does nobody have a shoot in the head? Because he has a helmet on. Is there, is it? Yeah. Why does nobody have a shoot James Bond in here? It's the same thing like that. Because headshots kill you and that wouldn't make for many movies. Yeah. It feels great. I love Mr Bond. Three minutes and well, I love Mr Bond. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Quick. Get it down back. Take it out of his arm. Take it out of his arm. Take it out of his arm. Take a one for long enough. I was going to say, yeah. It wouldn't like to meet Conor McGregor. An alley. If he took Umbridge to anything about me. Because I think he beat the ballerks at me. Fuck off. I had this conversation with somebody today and they thought they'd kill both Conor McGregor and Katie Taylor. They had this. I'd be most scared of Katie Taylor and I would Conor McGregor. Nah. The two of them would knock seven shades of shit out of everybody. I know. Oh yeah. You'd be hoping for a lucky shot with all the power you want. No, because no matter how hard I punched him, it's going to do fucking nothing to him. But he'll eventually catch him. Yes, you can't hit him. Even if you knock him up, he'd wake up and come and fight. Yeah. And then some holes as well. Yeah. I'm a terrible fighter. Yeah. Yeah. And everybody, like most people that I know aren't good fighters. Everyone's a terrible fighter. Unless your job is fighter. You're a terrible fighter. You're one of the tankers that goes out specifically to get into fights three to four times a week. But have you ever been out in Ireland? Have you ever been out in Ireland? The scene of fight and thought, oh, that's a good fight. It's just two guys hugging. I saw one of the worst fights ever in my life outside there. Wonder Max in boring, awfully years ago, and two of the drunkest men in Ireland decided in the middle of the road, they were going to have this fight. And both of them believed they were excellent fighters. So one of them, one of them decided a three punch combo was his special role to show. So as he was coming towards you, man, I can't do it in here. Yeah, we don't even have a prior skill for me to try and explain it. But he'd come in and just go like, I miss your mom with all three punches. Like none of them landed. And the other guy decided, I know what I'm going to do. Around house to the knees, there's no promise like this motherfucker. And they spent 10 minutes not hitting each other in the worst fight in Ireland. And everybody, three o'clock in the morning, absolutely bollocks after coming out of this. I was reaching the chips and burgers, waiting for your mini most to come and bring you home. It was like, we should pay them to do this easy. That's what we can work in magic. There's got to be a YouTube channel called drunk fights. Oh, yeah, just terrible, terrible fights, you know. So who wouldn't I want to meet in an alley? Let me think now. Yeah, kind of a Greg is a good show. Mike Tyson. Yeah, just unhinged. A wild and unhinged. Like, I wouldn't want to meet anybody in a dark alley. Because the people that, like, if we get the chance to meet somebody, like, I'd much rather meet them in, I don't know, the hot tub or something. You know, the hot tub. All right, Seth. In my grotto. Well, I do have a grotto. Yeah, besides the Christmas tree. The Christmas tree known as a forest. Every other human. With its pet skills. You're going to want to meet people and not in a dark alley. You know? Yeah, I'm afraid as it is. They'd like to know what that's on. Wouldn't want to meet Ray in an alley, would you? Well, you wouldn't want to meet Ray in an alley. Depends. He'd probably be in there for three days. But you never really know how to take Ray at the start. You know what I mean? No. He's a bit like, you know, yeah, like, is he going to hug me or rub me car? No, you're right. Any tradition. Any real Christmas tradition you have? Like, they're shitty family. No, no, no, yeah, because... Yeah, like, myself and the Misses, because we don't have Christmas dinner together. Yeah. And that is our tradition. Like, even though we've been together years, she goes to her family and I go to mine. And there's nothing weird or awkward about that. It's just, that's what we do. So we always go out for a meal before Christmas and just have that together. And then she always comes over to my house on Christmas, the night of Christmas day after we've had our dinners, whatever. Yeah. Like, nothing other than that, really. You know what I mean? My parents used to have one where they didn't put the Christmas tree up until I'd got... My sister got to bed on Christmas Eve night, and then they'd completely decorate the house and the tree and the whole lot. So you'd wake up on Christmas wine and come down your whole house to transform into this Christmas wonderland. It's fucking magical in it. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. Like, it's unusual because you do love the idea of the lead up to Christmas and having your tree up and everything like that. There wasn't a single decoration in the house. And then it just turned into a fucking Santa arrived. You went to bed, Santa arrived to treat every time you came in. Clicked his fingers and the house just became Christmas. Yeah. And it saved them an extra two weeks of having to look at the fucking tree. Yeah. Because they took it down on Stephen's name. Yeah. Christmas is done in the box. Fuck off. Yeah. No, I don't have any really. I mean, my wife collects Christmas decorations. So she, the only thing that goes on our tree is like bespoke decorations that she's collected. Like, so we don't buy boxes. Yeah. We're the same. You know, like everything's worn off. Exactly. Yeah. So there's fucking my hundreds of them on the fucking tree. Like it's ridiculous. You know, so everywhere we go, we got to buy a Christmas decoration. If I can spare us in July, let's get a Christmas decoration. Christmas tree. In the man game. It feels like it's in the bed of the Christmas tree that I chopped off. It's Christmas tree. It feels got a bay leaf in a can. I'm growing it for next year. So if you do need to get that. You need to get rid of any, just send them. Send some decorations to fill them. If you're around there. Anybody out there? I'm going to shelter. That's open on Christmas day. Maybe a hot meal. Even a cup of soup. Me and Trev might be looking for a place to stay. Unless he goes big time now after his movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For some more season. He'll be over there in a mansion rented in LA. Yeah. We might be over with him. Roger Trev actually made his own. Imagine he got like nominated for an Oscar. They had to interview him all the time. Like, you know what, different chat shows and he's amazing. Imagine how much cocaine he'd have to do with shopping. I mean, fuck it out. I'm glad we leave it there. Admin time. That Christmas feel. Welcome to my Christmas song. I'd like to thank you for being here. I've got a feeling. So I'm a fan in you, that Christmas car. You can't feel Christmas with a bit of Elton John. You hear? So, anyway, big thanks to the wonderful lads in the Astral Park our last time here this year. So, just a big shout out to Del and the lads who look after us each week. And let us use the fine facilities up here. And, you know, if you want to get down, play a bit of fight aside over the winter time. Give the lads a shout. I'm sure Del will look after you when you get down here. That's www.astropark.io. And ask for Del. It's that time of year. Trev Downey has a movie coming out. So, we want you to keep your eyes peeled. Daria, it's a spectacular. We reckon there could be an Oscar in it for Trev. Trev is the leading man. The leading man in this film. And, my God, does he lead. Daria, don't forget the name. Tell your friends and family. Trev Downey. Trev Downey in Daria. [Music] Right then, to round it out. Next week is something completely different to what we normally do, but it is the Christmas special. So, keep your ears peeled. So, anyway, from the normal part. Big thanks from everyone involved over the course of the year, especially myself, for listening and for, you know, giving us all your kind words and your harsh words. As the Supreme Overlord, a goalkeeper and talent. It is tough at the top here. And, you know, now, genuinely, we do love all the support. We love you all. We do love you all. It's Christmas time. You can't love everybody at Christmas time. So, for tonight, it was Stephen Daley. It was Dave Thomas on a slim down panel. It was myself, Phil Casey. So, good night, God bless. 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