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DT13 Hannibal Leiva

After the loss to Palace the lads discuss all the goings on both on and off the pitch. We talk the goals the game and of course Jurgy Bears annoyance at the early leavers. We close out with trippers chats with a discussion on cannibalism and puke. standard. Its the Daytrippers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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11 Nov 2015
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After the loss to Palace the lads discuss all the goings on both on and off the pitch. We talk the goals the game and of course Jurgy Bears annoyance at the early leavers. We close out with trippers chats with a discussion on cannibalism and puke. standard. Its the Daytrippers.

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A match which broke the gaffer's heart when everyone decided with 8 minutes to go and they're not going to bug her off and leave the poor man standing alone on the side of the ground. You know, the outrage is valid. Valid, I tell you. But anyway, we've got on. We've got Demoflod back after a long absence. God knows why he's been missing this long, but he has. And we've got Ray Radian. He might even sing us a song at some stage this evening. And of course, the voice of positivity. The man with the most saneest beliefs in football. And there's definitely out of place here on the day tripper. It's Dave Thomas. Trev's on demand, everyone. So hoping that he might be back very soon. And the next couple of weeks or so, so you won't have to listen to me try to host this show on a regular basis. And I know I can get back to just the understanding a bit at the start. I just all love so much. So anyway, look. Without further ado, let's talk about the man Alan Pardu. As he turns up again and walks away with the points of Anfield. And you know, he reckons he is club's match. Jesus wept. So lads. Crystal Palace 2. Alan Pardu did football genius as ever. Liverpool 1. You saw everything Crystal Palace is for us. Difficult match, really, to review. Because it's a bit round over the place. Literally a short play. Just as Dave said. The Game Boy Watch was very similar to kick-off 2 on the Game Boy in 1984. Dave, your tarts. I suppose let's let's let's let's let's let's start with the main thing. Bell Jorgi fucking slight in the crowd. Most people now will be getting on the high horse about this. I think it's great to be honest with you. Because we've been living with this imaginary legendary young field atmosphere, which simply doesn't exist. And he's had a go. And rightfully so. I think talking about the atmosphere at Anfield is like the most boring fucking discussion ever. Like that. Andy. Because nothing you could say. Nothing you could. I don't go down field. I don't pay my season ticket. So what right have I got to criticize anyone who does? First of all. Second of all. Second of all. There's legitimate ticket in issues which cause a drop in the atmosphere, which has been well-debated. But I just don't think it makes a fucking difference. I just don't I just don't think we should be able to be Chris of Paris in an empty stadium. I just don't understand why anyone. I understand why he said it. And I think he's looking to create a culture. I actually think if you look at his courts, I think his courts are actually more about the players giving up in the last 10 minutes rather than the fans leaving. I think he's more saying the fans don't give the sorry the players are not given the fans any reason to stay. They go in 82, 82, 85 minutes because they know this team's head's gone. They know they're not going to score. So I think he's indirectly having to go to his players rather than the fans. You know, that's my reading on. Trevor Francis, what was your take on? That's an interesting point. They made their kind of feel a bit annoyed at myself for getting so well on the barber. But I'll tell you what I felt initially. I think he was I think he was right to have a pop. I think it's fairly ballsy thing to do. Like he hasn't just come into the club and bought into everything. He's he's the man, like, you know, he's the biggest man in the club. And he's speaking his mind to a lot of managers who will be afraid to criticize the crowd. But he has he has their ears and he said something and I hope I help people, you know, stand up and listen and stop fucking off already because it's going on and off long time. And think about the atmosphere is like when the players that responding to clubs and enthusiasm, their fans will start responding to the players and enthusiasm. You can't just manufacture an atmosphere like the atmosphere was built on great soil. It's dominating English football and dominating Europe. And they weren't singing about a mid-table team. So let's fucking get things right in the pitch before people are wanting to create an atmosphere. Like we can't just pretend like that just because club has come from an incredible fan base in Dortmund, that it's just going to he's going to bring that with him. That's not realistic. So he said he said this bit now and I know he just hope like that things start to pick up in terms of people, you know, leaving because it's a terrible it's terrible to see. But don't expect like people just start singing songs, you know. That's only going to come from enjoy and enjoy. You know, you only get worked up and you know, you want to shout and scream and sing when you're seeing something on the pitch that they would have been. Diamond. Yes. The bastion of positivity that you are, right? Do you think it's a bit of a culture shock from? Like when you're going back to Andy's point, you know, the great fans in Dortmund. But the German fans tend to stay till the end of the games that's there. And like the likes of Dortmund, even when they were, even when he was doing poorly with Dortmund last year, you know, they were there till the death and they're still cheering the team off even when they were losing games. So like, do you think there is a bit of a culture shock in terms of what he's saying? Because you know, the English league as a whole, let's be straight about this. It's not what it was like in terms of atmospheres of games for a long, long time now at this stage. If you go back 18 months ago, you couldn't get a ticket from Anfield. There was fucking kills down the road, greeting the bus coming into the ground. There was an atmosphere there, but the atmosphere was there in the back performances. We've gone on the 12 months. Now let's call a spell of spell. It was in the league that year. That's what we did. We lost it. See it even when we lost the league. That's been a kick in the stones for every single fan. And then like all the last year, all the last year, it was being a bizmo. You know, and the fans have suffered on the back of that. And even the start of this season, it's been the exact same. The cup has come in. You might have been a little bit early to have a pop off the fans. But we don't believe in this league. I'm early. It's completely bollocks. You pay our ticket money. We've sat there too horrible, and then our drawers defeats the whole lot. We've sat there too horrible, and then our drawers defeats the whole lot. You say it? The fair to share. It's cold. It's cold. In protest, you say it's cold. Oh, you're on a sleep? Yeah. So, you might have been a little bit early there, but I think what I was saying is the biggest man in the club now. No long, for a team long, we're all guilty of it. We think we ruined the club. We know what's best for the club. And fans are being guilty of that for a long time. But now, let's just say the club's going to have a pop off. You're using it on this fucking club, well, yeah. So, yeah. It could be a bit of a culture shock, because in Germany, the deal stayed to the debt. And I feel that has been pretty shit this season. The arm is very dreadful. You can hear the pair talking to each other. Yeah. But that's something. You never used to hear that. As someone who likes to craft songs in a spare time, and hopefully we get a bar of your legendary Daniel Stuart song later on. Ooh. Ooh. Yeah. Is there anything, you know, like, coming off the back of that, is there anything that can be promoted or put, you know, created to get things going again? Like, you know, people staying to the end is not necessarily going to make anything better, but like... Yeah, I don't think that you can, like, let's say, manufacture armos and atmosphere, like that. You'll have to call them both. I don't know if it's more fucking a society issue where people are more interested in the social media. They're almost too kill to be fucking cutting, and they're, you know, I'm trying to say. Yeah. And they don't want to look this way. They're scared to stare at the song and they're around. I don't know about that. But in regards to our club having a go, see, no problem with it. Anytime we see opposition fans, they only boy be the one running. Look at them fucking assholes leaving. Yeah, yeah. So I'm not going to hold back now and say, "They're really fighting on it just because it's moving forward." I think he's perfectly right. And, well, he's going to hold that feelings by telling them that they've done something. I don't see the problem with it. He had a girl, and he's really 90%. The fact that we're talking about it means that the soy team's saying that, and with me, we're all watching the match, we're saying, "Look, it is focus leaving early." So, carefully going. If you can't grow in there, it should put on later flutes. Because I think they're all just leaving to get the flute. [laughter] Fucking daydreamers happen. Yeah. Oh, those daydreamers are walking already. Right, okay, look, that's the end of the day. Because, as Dave said, it smells boring to me. But onto the match itself, I suppose. Now, the result is shit. Let's be honest about it. Especially going off the back of the win against Chelsea. The one thing that we all said last week was that beating Chelsea is not worth a fucking wank if you don't go out and beat Crystal Palace the following week. Dave, what did you take it? What did you take it out again? I suppose attacking was, you know, there seems to be the beginning of something in terms of the way we're starting to play up front. But at the back, we still seem to have issues that are there. Yeah, well, I always enjoy it when you tell me what I think. [laughter] It's the way it's done. [laughter] That was like a sauna switch. [laughter] I'm talking. [laughter] I mean, look, I find it really difficult to get too worked up by my body, right? I actually watched the game. I enjoy that game more than games we've won over the last 12 months. Like, I actually thought I think we've got better at attacking since, I mean, to build on what you said, I do think we've got better at attacking since every game, the crops being there. And we should win that game. There's no doubt about it. From the continuous goal until they scored, we could easily score two goals, maybe three goals. I mean, we should win that game. Defensively, again, I wasn't all that concerned. I mean, I think the first goal is a sloppy goal. The second goal, like everyone thinks their team is shit at defending set pieces. And everyone thinks their team is shit at corner. So we think we're shit at defending set pieces. But actually, if you look at crops since crop has been here, we played six games, is it? Concedive five goals or seven games? Concedive five goals, whatever it is. If you compare that to the previous seven games, I mean, he's done tremendous work on the defense. So it's a work in progress. He's trying to play a different way. I actually thought we in the attack in third, I thought we were pretty good. But take issue or scored a couple. So I walked away from the game. Obviously, I'm disappointed we lost. Obviously, it's frustrating because it's fucking palace again. And it's another fucking, you know, bogey team performance. And it's a couple of the mistakes, a kind of silly mistakes. But if you take that out, then I actually thought we played pretty well. I'm enthused by the way that we attacked because I was a little worried in the first three or four games to go. But I see him much from an attack in sense. But he clearly knows how he wants to play. He clearly has an idea what he wants to do. Andy? Well, I think he'll tell you what to do. [LAUGHTER] Now, like Dave says, you know, you can't be pissed off. I think the midweek game, there was some really decent foundations laid in how to attack, especially the way oil played midweek. And I think he played quite well as well there yesterday. But I think we lost the match based on how we put it up to them physically. It just seemed like they were quicker into everything. And they were just out weighing us. There was lots of examples of how the force came. But how the force goal came in the middle of the park, where the Lucas gets a bit shoved around. Then the ball falls to camp, but he's on his heels and he gets knocked off easy. Then the ball's loose. Moreno tries to make a really high-fierce attempt at tackle. You know, like one of them where you don't even put your weight into the ball. Like a pass-y tackle? Yeah. That's unacceptable at that level. And then the goal comes from, is it challenging? Yeah, almost identical to the goal. But the goal, he helped us give away. He's ever done what he passes. Well, that one against everything. I think the ball's coming in. It's coming over someone's head. Yeah, kind of just trying to get something on it. The more you get, the better. The most you're foot on the ball, it's going away. And you don't expect to just bounce off the nearest player to you. But that was really, really bad. I don't think there's any excuse for trying to play a two-yard ball in a box full of bodies. And then for the second goal, like Benteke is free. I think it's scary. It's free because they're the big men. They're probably there to attack the ball. Benteke, it's strange how he goes to attack the ball. It's like it's here's all day. And he gets, he misses it by a mile. He pulls out from the six-yard box to meet that ball. And he jumps. And he must be two-foot under. So if you're going to go and attack the ball, at least we can get close to it. And then, you see Firmino getting out muscled. And I think it's Moreno is on the other defender. They're just savaged. Like, you at least put the player off. It's very hard, like if someone's running on to the ball, but you're just getting away. It's not going to be a penalty, just getting away. But he's just like, it was made against boys at times, physically. Dime out as a master of defense. Did you think it was a bit weird that Firmino was on Scott down? He would obviously be one of the targets off their corner. Well, he always got big for a big. Firmino woke me the strongest in the air. So you're not going to put him on the side of the half. And Dan would be relishing that. And he'd be nearly shouting and put it on my head. I'm going to go win this. All that soid, that's going to happen a lot of the time. The defender of the struggle is going to get ahead of him. What the fuck does mean lay down? Seriously. What does he do? Like, from a field perspective, that goes out of the soid. What's he hammering us right back into the airy ever? I'm not going to launch the defensive, but the only thing that I want to watch the back and the replay is if he knocks it to the side, if you look carefully, Balassie has pulled literally to the side of the post. So the only thing that I was thinking, maybe in the split section, the second, he goes, "Well, knock it to the side. I'm not going to straight to Balassie's foot." Right? So instead of trying to put it that way. I'll knock it straight into the other fellas' foot. The bit that I found weird was the motion that he did. It wasn't like he punched it into the round of cars to bounce back up like. You know what I mean? It was just the same thing. Everything is a little orthodox. What are you doing? It was like he went... He was awkward on the way he approached it even. Everything was wrong. I was even allowing from saying it late and saying, "What do you do?" You try to get the hardest punch into the air and try to get it as far clear as possible. That was the only thing that was scientific. If the strongest point you've got is a goalkeeper. You make saves. That's got to go away. I mean, at the end of the day, that's got to go away. And the Firmino thing, I have to watch it back. But weren't they players only? And he's just blocking the runner. I don't think he's actually marking. No, he is. Is he marking down? The half sound and half mark. See, I think, well, maybe the thought is that one of the big men, like Bentech, it comes and wins the world. And he's just putting down. Yeah, that's the freaking... So, if I take it missing, it is worse than Firmino. In my opinion, you leave Firmino open the halfway line, and you bring Bentech back to be the big man in there. I'm very happy to be talking with him. I know, but he was our robot. There was an old one. We had a little bit in the box. And we still got beat. Still got beat. Oh, jeez. No more fairness. They need a two haters on top. Oh, I don't know. Maybe Catenio was left out. Maybe. In fairness, going back, I think defensively, I think Klopp has been brilliant since his command. I've seen huge improvements. Yeah. In us, how we are systematically as a defensive unit. I think we still have them silly errors. They're individual errors. They're the ones that are costly. Once you've got that, once you've got out the individual errors, then we're going to see a lot more story back for performances. Because at the moment, I still think the lads are still on the nairs a little bit. You know, they haven't got over that. It's hardly surprising with that goal. I mean, I know we keep going back to the boat. Like he's just not commanding or instilling at any confidence in defense. They don't even want to pass a back tone. Like, obviously, that would fail for years. [LAUGHTER] That's kind of war about this. [LAUGHTER] Fuckin' man. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Sometimes he does kick it. Well, sometimes. So it is possible. You know, like he can actually do. So he's not like physically. Yeah. Like he's able to. So it has to be confidence. Mm-hmm. That the ball's rolling back to him. And someone's coming running in. And he just absolutely shits himself. And it's the same defending every set piece. He must be standing there just where he's completely worthy because. Yeah. But the gap between his, the way he, like, positions himself as if he's going to kick it. And where he actually kicks it. It's bigger than any goalkeeper I've ever seen. He kind of lines it up as if to go, "I got this lads." But take it, get ready for this. And then he goes the other fucking side. [LAUGHTER] Like, don't retain then. He also, like, when he knocks the ball ahead of himself, he does knock it a goal four over six yards. You know, most people just get out of their feet, say, two or three yards. So that they're close to the ball that if they need to take it or it's worse, they can. He just has a looks on the ball. Yeah. I think there's a nervousness about that. It just hasn't went away. You know? And for whatever amount of half decent performances he's put in, we always have that. You know, just something's going to give. He's easily upgradeable. Yeah. I'd be amazed if we don't upgrade in him or change him. I think it's interesting just on Minnie Lee. The club has said positive things about so many players. He hasn't said a single word about Minnie Lee. Has a said a single thing. Where are we even on Bogdan? I know we let him help him when we saw him. But I mean, he hasn't told much wrong. Does he? Do you not think we're just having the exact same conversation we did this time last year? And we ended up with Brad Jones and go on a Christmas time. And I suppose this was one of the things that we said last year. Like that if we don't, if we don't, if we didn't sign in with our goalkeeper, we'll end up having the same conversation because at some stage, Minnie Lee's form is going to drop. Yeah. And if that's happened. Right. Look, I don't, I don't, I don't have a labor on the really bad stuff. But I suppose like, let's, let's talk about the midfield. I know Chad had a pretty poor game. Lucas, though, had a, had a blinder for match. I can fairness to him. His, his performance levels have been so much improved since Cloppers come in. Damn, well, as, as Lucas is biggest fan. He was being settled myself. As Lucas is biggest fan, um, you're even impressed, which is, I'm, I'm as big as critic. I always help me and I don't think he should be there. Um, boy, my God, he's being excellent. Yesterday he was immense. You know, and there seems to be a whole new leaf out of being bred. And he's like the Lucas for four, four years ago. Like, whether he gets what Cloppers down or whether a club is going to breed and confidence until we, we tell them to, that, that he wants more from him. But he seems to be everywhere. You know, yesterday the biggest mistake in that game was removing Khan from the sodium. No matter how bad a Khan was playing, he never should have been taken out of there. If he would have taken him out of there, someone had to go and replace him. I think that's where the fun that we lost again. Cause I think, like, Lucas isn't the fits player in the world, but he had an awful lot of ground to cover for that last 20 minutes. Totally agree. Totally agree. Totally agree. I've seen so much criticism of, uh, Khan, but just like against Chelsea, it goes unnoticed when you watch in the game, how much of Lucas's work he does. And the reason Lucas is excellent is because Emory, they are a unit and okay. Emory has 21, 22, he gives the ball away. Sometimes he runs into blind alleys, but they work so well together. I completely agree. I've seen so much criticism of Khan and he does stupid things. Yeah, on the, on the body, those stupid things, but look, I mean, he is, he's lots of energy. Sometimes he's a bit slow, torn around and getting back. But look, as Demo says, it was an extra body in the midfield that we needed. And it was, it was such a critical time. Like, okay, you have to praise the manager cause he's shown a pair of balls that Roger didn't have for a long time. And he said, he said fuck a true caution the way in the put for me, no one. And says, we'll try and win this game. He probably felt like we, we come in this game. And in hindsight, it was the worst decision he could have possibly made because straight away, Palace got the run of the game. It, you know, it made a 50/50 game. It was a gold. We had chances. We had lots of chances. But at the same time, it left us very vulnerable. And immediately, even how the corner comes, it comes from Palace running into the channel. That charm would have been just there, mappled up. Yeah. And then like, I think it's Coutinho just hasn't got the legs to get back. Yeah. And then it's the way the corner and that's how the gold comes. So I'd rather see him going and keeping doing that. That's what, that's, you know, that's what a, you know, manager's supposed to do. I'm trying to chase and win games and it's not going to always happen that way. But against them, how, how physical they were and take away a man in the, in, in the midfield. Like it's, it's your secret. But you know, if you put, and I agree in hindsight, but I do think if he puts an island on instead of Firmino, the crowd goes mad during the lead. If he makes an island for Cat. Yeah. Well, Firmino have to, I mean, everybody sitting there must have been saying, get Firmino onto the pitch, but he could have. He could have thought it was. But I think he was forced into that. He does surprise me. He was forced into a soccer change though, wasn't he? So I think that he probably then went, I've kind of got to go two for one year. So I've got to do my, get Khan off because he's fucked and do something attacking. Yeah. I wonder if he had another sub. Would he have gone island for Khan? Yeah. Firmino for Lallana. And then maybe. Yeah. It shows that he has an awful lot of respect for an island, but he could, or Lucas, that he felt he could kind of do that job on his own. I can't believe how fucking strong he is as ours. Oh yeah. I've never noticed him to be so fucking strong like, and we have got, we've got strong, but we're not, that's strong. I mean, she pushed, pushed players all day. Yeah. Yeah. So what do you think of, because you come off such a good game in Russia? Yeah, I thought he was, you know, I thought he played well. Well, I bet I suppose I could say, um, I don't know, he wasn't involved as much as I wanted him to say, but I don't know if that was just the story we were planning that he wasn't, it wasn't going out on him as much. He wasn't, he seemed to be restricted when he done, he got to the edge of the box and he loves that cutting in thing and the options there, they had that banker for just sitting there and we seemed to go out. So it just didn't look like he was, he was penetrating the way he was there during the week, you know, but, um, look, he's, he's, he's moving on. He leaps and bounds of the last world and whatever claps whispering in his ear, he's coming out in interviews and saying he's giving them confidence and you can see it on the pitch. I thought I actually thought he was our best player. Really? Did you? I thought he was excellent. Yeah. I mean, I think what it misses, right? To be fair, you talk to a penetration. I do think it lacks that. I don't think if he had Firmino's, or Coutino's eye for a pass, he'd actually be fucking amazing. Yeah. But I actually thought he'd torment. He was, he was the out ball all the time. I thought it was a tormented pass. Yeah. I just, I thought it was. That's why the men started. You know what I mean, when we got there? He does like to come inside. I thought he was excellent, but if it was one criticism, he was taking that extra touch. Taking more extra touch on a football pitch gives the defense so much time. It only takes a split second for them to look around, see where they are, get settled, and then prepare himself with a ball coming in. If he takes one touch and gets the ball in, the palace defense don't really know where they are. Yeah. But to, you know, take an extra touch on a football pitch at that level. The other problem he had is that he was looking to cross and he, you know, I, so I think when he was trying to play the early board, he was looking up on his own in the box. Yeah. It was been taking, it was dropping deep all the time towards the edge of the 18 yard box. And when he put in a couple of good crosses and like, yeah, what would he add? Well, okay. Well, okay. But you keep staff, you keep flashing balls in eventually, you know, they've been hacking in this case, start responding, getting, getting closer because he doesn't want it. I can't do his job real. Yeah. Yeah. He's been flashing balls in all day. It, it, ball just has to fall, you know, off, off a player's chest or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Time old Elana. Puff. Puff. Yeah. You know, vanilla. That's him. He's not our milliner. He'll give you a shift. You know, you're not going to get angry at him. I don't think, you know, they're going to get any real quality. I don't feel the one of me, you know, um, I missed the four, 20 minutes of the game. I believe it was immense, you know, I didn't say it because I, I, I don't know he was watching the game. He was walking. He walked his wages. But like, any real quality, no, got a few little tones backwards, like you want players that are actually cutting teams open or giving you something, a real quality. I'm not saying that often, like, you know, it's. He starts snacking. That's the world of ideas. He's just like, then again, I don't think he does too much wrong. He's not too guilty given the ball away or anything, but he's just hasn't got that caught a team open to him. But then he won't be able to get the ball and he'll turn back into it and he'll lay it off. It, you know, it is. Yeah. I'll tell you start to deliver whether it's goals, assists are to create chances to for somebody else to create a sister or whatever. He seems to have an alter there. Oh, Andy, like, that's what's frustrating. Yeah. We just think. I thought he was now. I thought he's brilliant. I don't know. You said the fourth 20 minutes. I thought he was even like, you know, he was going after that he was going up to half to him. Talk. I remember saying that. No, it was just a standard discussion. We can't remember a lot of that. I think it's interesting. I think that if you watch his game and watch Coutinho's game, he has a better game in the game. We're Coutinho's coming up with the gold. So that's what's happening. Yeah, he scores the gold. Yeah. But Lallana gets the assist, right? Yeah. Well, Coutinho's a luxury player. Like, you don't, you can't say that a bit. Lallana. But I think Lallana is, Lallana's more involved in all of our good chances than Coutinho's. Lallana is central to everything good that we do. He has. But he is. That's what we talked about this. He is. Yeah. That's why he's keeping the place in the team, you know. But he has got to score goals. But if he's not scoring goals, then neither is anyone else. But if he's not scoring goals, then I can see why people would be frustrated with him. But I genuinely think if the game's the other way around, if Lallana scores the goal and Coutinho does everything that Lallana did in that game, people would be raving above what Coutinho does. For the fairness, people have been very critical of Coutinho as well, open till he got the goals against Chelsea. Oh, yeah. He was very critical. He's not playing well. Yeah. He's not playing well. It's open season and I need him. He's not playing well. They don't deserve to be in the team. Because he had enough chances in that second half to get two or three goals. It was worse. It was worse. I had to sign it. I'm hoping he's not going to be one of the players that can pull, you know, what he done against. He's able to box these out of our head kicks and beat that, did that clinical in front of the goal and then have games like that where he has two or three chances and really makes a bollocks of all of them. I think we will see a patchy, like that's coming in and out of injuries are just not playing well, one game and playing well, another game, that had a chance like at the time, I thought, oh, he's just, he's unlucky, you know, he just didn't get hurt. Jase, he could have. He could have done better, definitely could have done better, especially when that's one of the strong, strong points, like that's, that's should be for him. Meet and drink. Yeah. Well, what, what's the name about? I'm sorry to have the things to know me about. He's not making them runs in behind the founders and the short ones that continue a little line that I really can just fade into him. He's not making them. He's looking for feet all the time. Every single time. You score. I mean, it makes it easy for back four, you know, it is the fence. He didn't have a great game, but I mean, he scored four, eight or four, seven, whatever he scored. And it was his first start in the club, right? It's just the first game he started where from the start and he's part of the attack in play. Again, I think there were signs there that they're starting to work out all to play with him. And you'd always prefer a strike as they're missing them, they're not there. But yeah, I mean, I was disappointed. He should have scored two at least two goals there. I mean, the one where it comes, I think Ibokheim cuts it across and he, you know, he's at the near post side foot and that's got to go in and the header's got to go in. Snatches at it. Yeah. Come on. On the back of Tor, I didn't, it was very quiet and towards it as well. Like, you know, it was a very good game the week before. Like, that's two guys in a row now. He's being very stale. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. He's going on towards the, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I think his involvement in the play deeper down is actually a lot better than I thought it was going to be from him. His first touch is excellent. Yeah. He always finds play. He gets the middle there. Probably. He's just a six yard loss. We're so lacking goals. It's not pointing him in his all round game, being good and in line off, we need someone in the box. I think the way he can't play. That's going to be important. He's, you know, he needs a player that's going to bring us up the field, right? Yeah. And I think that it does that. I think he's got to be better, you know, in the 10 yards around the goal, you know, with, with half chances, do you know what I mean? Yeah. And I think that's the big thing. I think that the style that he, he, he, we're eventually trying to get to. It relies a lot as well on the tree behind him coming in with the goals. At the moment, it's really only a Catino who's, who's scoring goals in that attack and trio. Yeah. And even if you look at his, his Dortmund side, I suppose it's the frame of reference when you look back to it. And I'm not saying we're, we're at the same level as, as where he had that team, but like you had Kagawa, you had got to, you had the Cuba arc featuring the gold from like behind Leven Dowski. And then that also frees up Leven Dowski because if those three look like gold threats, if, Catino was scoring, which he is, and Alana was scoring regularly, and I would be scoring goals as well, straight away, it's going to create more space for Ben Techie in the box because those players will have to be merited on. Based on who's most likely to score goals, you'd start Catino and Jordan Eib, maybe, maybe one other. But because Jordan Eib should be, he looks the most likely to score, you know, the most likely to score on Sunday. Because Catino has that ace, so that's a problem there where it's just, he can, he's getting away, we're playing bad in games, I'm pulling out all these. So he's kind of putting the hair to drop him, you know. So let's talk about the goal. What was it like? I can't remember. I will go. Yeah. It's actually a pretty good goal. A better one, touch football, ball comes in, Leven Dowski. I actually think he's trying to flick it, and it comes, I mean, he does, but it comes, I don't think he was, he did what he was trying to do, and it falls into Catino scores from like 70 yards out. So let's go go. It was a well made, I think the flick, the flick post but take it off actually. Yeah. Yeah. It was a well made goal, but... Let's go finish. Yeah. I didn't say it with me. He could be fade for hours. He was still sitting on the floor. That's great. That's it. It was actually Eib. When the ball was fed and saw it, Eib would come in central, and he picked it up, and he opened up out the coin, and that kind of, that, that's what created the space. Yeah. He created the challenge really working in there. And actually, Firmino, sorry, Firmino is the other one I'd play with Eib. I'd play Eib Firmino and Catino, because Firmino and Eib have a real understanding. You've seen it. They really play well together. Well, let's say, one more second, Firmino, he's never done it off the bench for us. He's got to start. He's got to start, he's been very poor, and he pulled me some other bench for you. I will say, one thing though, when he did come on, like, he did look like he was going to get in the box if he could fade and show it was that, that one that he's cut off side for. Yeah. Yeah. Like, he's grown now into the player that we're expecting him to be long-term. He didn't need games. I don't know. But you know what I'm saying? He's trapped and really cracking up, because you're just seeing glimpses of it staring. Just staring to get there, and then he left out there, like, he was so upset. I think he starts after the international break. He'll start against City. I think he's in. I think he's in the conference. I mean, I think he likes La Lana, so I, I actually think he'd probably start him ahead of Eib, but I would start him ahead of La Lana, and Eib. Yeah, but then, you know, Miller's probably going to come back in the game against Eib. Yeah. I think, I think the Miller one's very interested. I'll be honest with you. I think it's very interesting that he's prepared, he was prepared to leave him out of the side. Well, he's injured. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Well, he's subbed into ice, and then, okay, he's injured now. So I think there's, there's definitely a feeling that I think he likes Miller. I just don't think he knows what to do. I think he likes Miller. Right. He's not where he's in, right? So he can clap a drop. Anyone he doesn't give a fuck. And to be honest with you, for me, I think he's looked at Miller, and he's probably saying to himself, I know what Chan can do in terms of when he, okay, we say that he sometimes misused the bar, but he has a greater range of what he can do in midfield and say, "Miller can." And he isn't good enough to replace Lucas as that defensive midfielder, and I just think at this moment, I think, though, when Henderson comes back in, you'll start seeing Chan getting some bench time, and Henderson replacing where he is in the team itself. I'm struggling to see where Miller fits into that team outside of that tree behind the striker. I think Miller's the one that's under the most threat in terms of, like, because Lucas starts, Jan starts, and then Henderson's going to come back. And then Miller then has got to go into the front three, and I'm like, "I don't see why he plays in that front three." So I think he's going to find himself in the cup, Europa, that type of sign. Filling in that rifle. Yeah. Yeah. I've got to remember, not too far out of January, he wouldn't be supposed to see anything like him in there. Well, at least he has to sign a midfield. I'd say Allen's out the door. Allen's out the door. Allen's out the door. The fact that Allen can't get on that pitch when he's taken a sentiment for you, I know he's looking to change things or whatever, but the fact that he's not putting him on. And Allen played well on Thursday, so I was surprised he didn't get any minutes to talk, but again, I think the lover and son maybe... You could see, he would see certain players go very quickly, as soon as possible, really. That would be in the UK. Yeah. Allen... I'm convinced he doesn't even know that in the UK is at the club. No, there's something weird going on there. He hasn't even told me a little bit about it. You're just looking at your mouth at half a car. He can't get into the training, right? So he's not... He's in the dark, very modern. There you go. There's a few players there that he can see gone very quickly, and he just replaces them with a bit more quality. I mean, I think it's interesting that the foresawing is probably going to be puddle. I don't think we're going to say puddle. But there is a third president to sign. He's gone with the Liverpool. What does he mean about Liverpool? They always just travel Liverpool into the mental upset. I think they've told them across Europe. Yeah. But I think you're signing... You're signing essentially a spine of his team. You're signing a goalkeeper on the right side of the centre back. It's an instrument fielder. And if he's got money, he'll get a striker. Right. He'll probably go to the summer. Right. He won't be born, I suppose. We're getting close to wrapping this up here. But the sake of injury lads, they look bad. Supposedly, it's not that bad, even though he's in the brace, and you're on. The way he limped out the foresaw and told me it was bad. Yeah. But when I don't go to the ligament, that's exactly how I walked out the pitch. It was a straight leg. And then the sink went back on and said, "What the fuck are you doing?" And then the fore saw me gyres it. It just goes again. The report's noticed that there's no... It's not an ACL injury, apparently. There's knee damage, but it's not an ACL. So he hasn't told him the ligaments, which is... I think if he tells him it's eight weeks. So I think, look, it could still be three weeks, we may not have him for city or whatever, but three weeks it's obviously better than eight weeks. But he hasn't actually been breaking all the thoughts. Exactly. He has some training. How about he really is thrown into a UH cold figure, isn't he? He's, like, the fans are, you know... He's on the floor crying, and the fucking crowd will just shout this out. That goes flailing a little bit. It's almost like a fucking wrestler match, I was looking out on it. It's like he's going to hardcore. That's what he said. He's coming. He's coming up. Come on back up. He'll suck it down to the top. Thank you. Thank you for shutting down. You're a package of CISO. You're a package of CISO. 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Sick from a sink is having to get your finger down. I really don't know. I know. But it's after a few ago. She was not worth that. No, no. That's terrible. That's absolutely terrible. Yeah, that's something that actually bothers me. You melt the people that go into a bathroom to get sick and get sick in the sink where it toilet it. It seems like it's cause of the level it's on. It's fuck level. Whatever. Well, it's horrible cleaning out today, Jack's bowl. But it's also to release it. Not the initial getting sick isn't the bill getting down your hands and knees on the ground. That's when you're a puke and non-stop for a oil. The forest one is dank. Just give me an orifice somewhere. Time to shit. You know what I mean? It's because the sink is first. I don't think it's a you make a decision. The sink is easier. You just go, what's the first thing that can be sick in the sink? And that's what happens. The last day of the season. The last day of the season. (laughter) I got on the bus. I got sick of the bus. I got sick of the back of the bus. I got sick of the bus. (laughter) Only the bus driver was pissing. I got the bus driver. (laughter) He was pissing. (laughter) I took my coat off and puked it to me. (laughter) Sit there at the way home. Oh, when we were on the bus, yeah. Oh, you fucking pig! (laughter) Oh. (laughter) It wasn't for your mind getting off with that dog I would have been sick. (laughter) (music) Oh, yeah. It's that time again. Fuck you at a minute. We're taking it all the way down to Jamaica. Medical boys. (music) The big tanks is ever to the wonderful people who host us here in the Astro Park in Tallah. You know, get on down. Five aside. Imaginary seven aside football. BANG! Get on down. (music) We've got absolutely nothing to plug. So, just for a few shout-outs, Neil Pills books there on Amazon. Go get that. It was free. You have to pay for it now. So pay for it. (music) As the amphia wrap, the vote for the FSF podcast, Tingimi Jiggy. The top fellas all around, so look, they welders there. Lots of hard work put in by them. Next year, we'll win at one Deann Field Index. (music) As you might have noticed, Jamie Holmes, do you be enjoying this recently? He's now become a regular part of the crew, and he's right in front field HQ. So look, give his article to Reed. And of course, of course, get on over to Deann Field Index. There's loads of deadly articles, stuff from Sam Maguire. And from our own trev down, even though he hasn't written at the moment, there's loads of his stuff there, and it's always worth to read. So get on down, read it, and don't be messing around. (music) Right, to round it out. Of course, we had the wonderful Welshman Dave Satriali joined us tonight. I'm very famous even, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got the demo flood, the man who brings positive clouds all over our heads. And of course, the man who has a song, Ray Brady. Eventually, we get him to sing that damn-storage song. He's been promising for ages, but he still won't do it. Fucking was. And of course, it was me, Phil Casey, hosting, hopefully not doing this much longer. But if I am, you're gonna have to live with it. Good night and God bless. (music) The victory is putting in fucking the thing from uncertainly to see that there was a nail ad. Oh yeah! I'm always going to take it on. Oh my God. It's a fucking party, like it was barred, right? Been in a ponytail down to fucking here, in a platelet. I know it's there, God. He was mostly in the bill. 53, 54. He was showing shapes. And you guys know where he went, though. He smashed a brew on him. Yeah. (laughter) Phil Burrow's checking the ponytail. (laughter) Yeah. Bit of old spice. Bit of real. That'll get it done. It's actually, you know, you know, in a brew. (laughter) I'm doing the answers. (laughter) Bit of licks Africa. (laughter) Oh, it's like breaking. (laughter) I don't know what makes up. Bit of licks Africa. Don't know what makes up. (laughter) Don't know what makes up. Don't know what makes up. Don't know what makes up. Don't know what makes up. Don't know what makes up. Don't know what makes up. Don't know what makes up. Don't know what makes up. (laughter) Someone had to end these chats. (laughter) You want to get a jingle further? (laughter) Any chats. (laughter) Yeah, there's magic. (laughter) Are you going to give us the story, son of a... No. Come on. You said the next one. You said the next one. Well, you said the large one in, 'cause it's exactly the song way you need for it. Come here. Just give us a bit of it. No. No, I don't think you have a song. No, I don't. (laughter) Wait till he comes back then a little. If I'm on the part again. (laughter) So Saturday night, anyway, day more. Yeah. Yeah. Should be all crack. Yeah, passport, green card. Wait, he's gone. In to tell. Wait a minute. Oh, go on to tell. Yeah. Ah, so we all have to stay out in yoga. Yeah. He does. (laughter) There's laws of place to go. 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