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There's been denials, there's been rumours, there's the normal run of the nail stuff now if our Liverpool fans, as the week has carried on. So we get to discuss it all and we're going to try to bring some humour to applause me. We are struggling to find the humour at the bottom of the humour barrel at this moment and time when it comes to the Liverpool football club. Joining me tonight, I've got Ray Brady, who's back fresh from his hollish from Turkey, looking well even though his head is slightly expanded or else his body has contracted. We've got Neil Gray, you know Neil from run Twitter account because I've taken my lever that I don't have time for at the moment and Neil is the man behind the tweets. And of course we have Mr Andy Young, who inevitably has been hit by this depression bug as well as this shite fest continues. So I'm Phil Casey and it could be the last time you hear me hosting for a while. So get on board. Roy Denloud's Norwich at the weekend, great crack wasn't it? Ray, did you love it? Back to winner waves. Yeah, no, that killed me. That killed me and sent me over the edge. I fell out all over football and the way you're going there. Yeah, totally. We were epoxy all over the fucking pitch. Shite atmosphere, not a lot to be positive. Actually, I tell you one thing, can I give you one bit of positivity? Yeah. Zacho and Moreno look well to get a quote, quote, quote, quote. And other than that, oh, just too many, too many fucking no shows. Yeah. No fluidity. No game plan. No. Just piss, Paul. Go pass the ball, Paul. Andy. My own take on it was... Andy, my own take on it was... It was better than Shite because it'd been really Shite for a few weeks. Yeah. And had we got out with a one there, we probably would have been saying, right, fuck it, you need to get the shit you win to get the badness of your system. Yeah. Well, it was the first game of the season where we made that the opposition look like a showy team. Like, we looked like... Hadn't Charles as both the opposition. And the change in formation and the set up and all, it was looked like it was going to work very well. Looked my balance. We looked more... I looked at the back, bro. I think that was just an arduous lack of ambition in that game. So, it's hard to know. It kind of felt like I was nearly enjoying the game at times. I thought like... [LAUGHTER] Shit! [LAUGHTER] I'm about to look at it. I felt like I was slightly enjoying the game at times. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] Well, they've broken everyone. The cons were all shattered. [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] Yay! Getting your beauty. But you know what I am. Can you just call me? Yeah. It's like the... It's kind of like that. [LAUGHTER] Neighbors is at the cum la mater. [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] [LAUGHTER] Where was he? So, when I was the fourth half when I was thinking to myself, you know, we'd better scar here in the fourth half, Lee. Yep. And I suppose a half time, uh, Liverpool and Rodgers would have just started being thinking we'd go out and do the same here. We'd keep problem with scar, whereas Norwich would have always had to change something. So they made a couple of changes around the park, like, and then completely neutralized and it was an abysmal second half. But there was still, there was still chances here and there, like, now look, we could give out a shot about Rodgers, and then everything else, but like, Rodgers can't be held accountable for him, makes flap, he can't be held accountable for a continue, should have scarred, you know, like, there was other chances where we should have gone better. So I think he, I think he put enough out there and he made enough changes to win the game, but the players kind of let him down, let him down as well, you know. You know, a lot of time before the game was about storage at a torn, obviously he's not playing tonight because he did, did on a risk ahead of the weekend, right? He looked very rusty, didn't he? And despite all the, the plot of tonight was going on, he did look very rusty in comparison to what was due to him. Yeah, well, I didn't watch the match on Sunday, right? Well, I watched it today, but I fuck with that, because we're not watching this match at the moment, I do not know it as much, they could have talked about the hours ago. I was out there here now, they showed that it was going on, how bad we were and all that, and it wasn't actually as bad as they thought it was going to be. I thought you'd be nearly suicidal, I wasn't quite that bad, maybe because I wasn't white you'd expect on this goal or something, I don't know the reason why, but it's storage in particular, um, for a fellow who's been out for so long, he did it all right, like, watch here, everybody just wants him to do well so much, and no one is going to criticize him, and it's very hard to criticize him because he's been out for so long, he did all right, he got an hour of him, but that was it. It was a big risky talk playing him, I think, but I don't know, so he don't all right yet, listen, he's rusty, what do you want me to say, he's very, he's a very good footballer, you can see, he can just see from the touches he has, he's straight ahead of everyone else. Did you see any link up with the attacker, 'cause I didn't, obviously I didn't know, and the commentators were trying to, well, the commentator I was listening, was trying to force that point, saying you can see these two are going to link up well together, but they try it, but they seem to be on a different wavelength, and maybe that's 'cause storage has been out so long, but in tech he doesn't even know what the club may be, it'll happen, I don't know, 'cause then tech is going to play through the middle, so storage is going to have to be either side at any particular time, so how that's going to work out, only time will tell, but they didn't link up particularly well now, but then again, at the same time, what was the two boys behind them, the two midfielders are not capable of playing in the midfield too, so they weren't getting much bar later. Look, we finished with how bad the midfielders were, but going back, we reverted the trade at the back for a league, which was more or less so imposted in the Europa game, right? Sako was back in from the start, and Moreno comes in on the left-hand side, they're a much better proposition down that side, in trade at the back, it just suits the whole lot of us, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah, and I thought, yeah, it definitely did, I thought Emery Chan had a great game as well, but the right side of that setup was where we were falling down, and I thought Sako and Moreno, which I said earlier, where the hoyloy of it, Sako just looked so played in the short, he's just a propero, never defender, you know, he didn't, there was cars any harm there, you know, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh he didn't, yeah, no, I thought he'd done well, yeah. I think we don't like it, we don't like it, we don't like it, we don't like it. He's still playing it. He should just do the same thing down the idea, you know what I mean, he's the impression of himself, which is kind of a line where a lot of fans impression of him. He's letting him do his arm, and it's like, yeah, I don't even, I don't, no, that's the impression you got from him, I understand. These runs are just ridiculously, the end product of these runs, yeah, like sometimes he just hits this kind of stripe spread straight back to the opposition, you know, he runs in the corner as he runs, like if he's a bit more composed, I don't know, as usual. On a defensive point of view, as the Roy Santa back over there, he played well, but then runs I talked about, I think that's just in the player, I think when he came through, he was more assured than that, and he was laying it off sideways. If the bar wasn't on, he was laying it off now, like he was saying, he's trying to force the issue to him. And trying to make that like, it's almost as if he's tried, it's Steve and Gerard, it's gone now, I'm going to do what he's not saying that that's gone true as him, but that's the impression. Well, Milner, you have to remember how anonymous Milner was, and I don't think he held them at all, and that's all, and I think he was really lacking in something, and then runs were due to the fact that I don't think he had any option. Sacco always had that little bar marina, was just going ahead, he just didn't seem to have it, you know, it didn't click, it didn't click, it didn't click, well, no, you know. Sacco seems to have a better choice of all, he's really had to play the bar, fizzing into players for, you know, like three smaller gaps where Chantakes, one or two of our torches, he's looking up, he wants to, constantly wants to play the Hollywood bar, and the big bar is not, he goes on a run then, so I don't know, look, it's a great hill to have that a player can get into a stride, like that L defense, I'm forced in, if it was walking I'd be all over it, once or twice a match, it's a bit like, it's a bit like, loving, and I mean people would be afraid to, to criticize Chant in the same way they, uh, criticize loving, but if loving was to simplify things and do things a bit, you know, it would improve us dramatically, you know, anyway, neither would the, yeah, okay, look, I think, I think we're all unanimous that Moreno and Sacco did well, despite everything that went down, and if you're going to pick any of the 11, they were the two that were going to stand out and say they, they, they, they, they, they, they nailed us buffer for, for this weekend, on, um, okay, let's, let's take the chanting and start the lead in, they've got, they had two very limited midfield, I don't give it, I don't, I don't understand how you can play any type of far in a midfield with Lucas there, because he doesn't have the mobility, you're playing at home, you know, like, going back to your point, we put them under lots of pressure, but it wasn't that we had a sentiment field that was able to push up and get involved in what was going on, yeah, Miller was trying, but he was, he was, he was, look, let's be honest about it, he's having to do to run the two players, that's what, that's what Henderson has been doing for a long time, that's an, I think a Lucas, what, I think the director of Lucas was given, he done that, like, for what you expect Lucas to do, he done all right, it's Miller, he's supposed to give the creativity out of the two of them, and he didn't give it at all whatsoever, he only came into the match when Liverpool got on top of an Irish and we were going forward, then when there was more possession and the space started to create, we started creating space, he came on into the game, but he's never going to force the issue and he's not going to want, he's not going to be the one from the midfield to create opportunities for others, well, he certainly was, wasn't on Sunday, I mean, that's for sure. Well, I wouldn't criticize Lucas too much, he did what he expected him to do, his average performance, he expected, he expected he should have to come from Miller and it didn't happen, look, when he's capable of that, I don't know, when Lucas was Karl upon, he did toy deal with, you know, when he, you know, he had to make a little interception here or there, and he was the one that fed storage for that chance, you know, it was a good ball, it was a good ball, it was a good ball, I thought, I know he did, they could have done a little bit more meat, and then, but we'd be over-critic a little bit, so now he's fine, yeah, but if you watch it, it did, the ball do it, it just needs to be played a bit more from from Oita, anyway, and maybe I'm being harsh on Lucas, because I don't like to fail as in, he's an affable bloke after pitch, but I'm under pitch, I'm not a fan, I think he's just there to make up numbers, you know. Yeah, look, we don't really have much choice though, the other option was to put roster in or play some type of diamond, and this is what I want to ask, and this is not, look, I don't think that anyone around the table who's got the champion Rodgers is the best manager in the world at this moment in time, right, but, you know, when you start a team, when I start a team, it's the same as the United team, when everyone, I think everyone started a team, straight away, we think diamond, yeah, and yet again, we don't, we refuse to play the diamond, which doesn't, it doesn't seem to make any sense to any fan whatsoever, would we get more from those players in the diamond formation, in European, and this is, I'm not asking for fucking coaching manuals here, I'm just saying, just from looking at us, he seems very reticent to re-employ that diamond, Neil. I don't know, it's a funny hard question to answer, because when we got, when they, well, I suppose the natural progression of a match when you're playing against Norwich, and it's one of their happy with that, they're going to sit back, so we're going to get more resistance when we're going to come into it. Well, we did come into it when we did, in the last 15 minutes, particularly when we created a lot of chances. So, what we weren't so much playing, we didn't, Lucas has gone off, obviously, and it was our attack at that stage, so, well, if you're talking about the previous 80 minutes when a diamond had made any difference, no, I don't think so, because we haven't got the person now available to play in the diamond, in my opinion. Okay, great. Look, it just stinks of our vicarciousness from Roger, so don't get it, it's something that brought them so much success with fair enough, different players, different personnel, but a system that, you know, he just seemed to just pack off and doesn't want to go back near again, and I don't know the reason behind it, you know, maybe it's, you know, the pressure's building, doesn't want to get beaten, like, I don't agree with starting, Lucas, I don't know, we haven't got options, but, you know, someone might mention a roster even getting the game, I just think we need to be a bit mama while at home, it was very, very lethargic, and it's never going to be fast and per play, or I don't think with Lucas on the pitch, you know, that's just it. Well, the last few games have proven we weren't very capable of conceding goals again. It looked like he couldn't assault a little back far, so we, so we, he might have been quite reluctant to set up as a diamond, don't forget last time he was a diamond, we were scarmer goals than everybody, so, conceding the goal or till didn't really matter at that point in time, so he's gone to that tree at the back because it's the only kind of system in the last 12 months, it's actually stopped as conceding goals, and right now I'd say use it, just keep using it, get us, like, you know, I mean, I don't see the function and just, just want the Liverpool to lose, like, I want Liverpool to win games, and I think that formation is probably the best way now going forward to win games, but long term, and, you know, it's not gonna work, but I don't think, but I don't think Roger's is gonna be at Liverpool long term, so we'll be all forward, just stick him with that tree at the back, but the only fuck, like, it just annoys me that they're probably the best Roy back, you know, around for the last few seasons, and he's now gonna be a Roy wing back, it's such a waste, like, we had a potentially a good looking back forwarder in playing Moreno on the left coin, Roy Sacco, and then, fuck it, Joe Garmel is like, it's, you know, quite possible that we could have it back far, but he's not really, it doesn't look like he's kind of like playing a back far, so I say, just for the time being, play that formation, I'll be happy to see it, I'm only clogged with a few points, get us back somewhere, and hopefully, Americans, the sport, the sport, whether he goes, hits up, or we have an abysmal run, or else he gets it together a bit, I'm looking to the future now, and organized, and that's a lot of your clap or whatever, what up, parallel, fuck's sake, fuck's sake, bogged down the mill then, there's no post, damn, I was really, we slept in that laptop, and there we go, they're all dressed up as had to see it together, look, seriously, that's just embarrassing that is, yeah, let's help you with annoying six points, you know, I don't care, I really, I don't feel anything, no, I'm just going through the middle of that, no, what's skeletal, why is he fucking one of them, stand up, that's a pawn, why is that, that's what he goes, back so, back so, back so, I was picking up the player in the last time, where's the ball back? No man left full there. Moreno. Yeah, but no one steps in about 15 yards ahead of Skirt. Skirt loans back, which are my, Moreno's then trying to cover in between two seven bucks. Well, I can't make helter attacks all the way. It's hard to kind of say where players should be here, players should be there. Oh, whatever. Why? Just when the stream starts to walk. Oh, yeah. Just, maybe I don't just stick Chelsea on. Yeah. Oh. I love to be girls in this. There's a blue flag on that. A little flares. No poor or no party, huh? Anyway, um, as the, I'll, if we were on the play of diamond, right? Yeah. How would you sell? How would I sell? Yep. Well, look, we said it last week, and the same as what, what Andy has talked about there. I would have happily seen Gomez and Saka, I would have been, I would have said, look. So you go far? Yeah, I'd play, I'd personally, I would have had Klein lower than Saka and Moreno. Right. Because I think, I think Lovern at Royce in the back will, alongside Saka will be a better defender than Skirtlet, Royce in the back, right? And we're going to play, we're going to play, we've played a lot of money from, and he's going to be played, right? So then, then the midfield would have been Chan, Milner, Catenio, and, either for me, no, all Atlanta at the top, whichever will look, I'm not getting into the bounds of it. And then up top then, I would have played, then Tech A and Ings. You know, I wasn't expecting stories to start, but you know, I would have played two up the top. But for me, we know Catenio can play in that midfield. And he also gives us something from deep, that he's able to pick the ball up, he's able to move it around, he's able to create something. You've got the legs in Milner, Chan might be our natural defence in midfielder, but a bit like Alonso, going back to Andy's point, he wants to spread the ball, he wants to get on the ball and move forward, right? And we know he's more and more more than Lucas is. And then you've got, you've already got for me, now, Atlanta at the top of the game, and you've got your two centre backs. The other thing is that's, Chan will naturally, in that setup, when the two full backs push, he'll drop in as the central centre backs of the two centre backs. And this again, he's been playing as the Roy as Roy centre backs, so it's in him now. It's in him, too, to drop back in. He's bad at the bottom. Do you know what I mean? He's playing defence. I have to say, it's been more impressive playing at the back than I have been with midfielder in the midfielder. Maybe he was playing as the proper centre defence of the field, and as Phil says, drops into the middle as opposed to being on the Roy and so, and he becomes a bit of a librarian. - Yeah. - He becomes far away. - Yeah. - Yeah. - So, yeah. - I don't know. - You were asking me, how do you fit the diamond in my five? - No, no, no, no. - No, no, no. - Now I understand what you're saying. - The question is different now. - Because, like, you're still sort of play tree at the back. - No, we do still have to. We absolutely have depression over the diamond, then if you want to play as flat as far. - That's what it works. Yeah. - Whenever we see the team, even tonight, when you're looking at the team, you're taking yourself, that's some form of diamond. Because when he names it, you're not, you're still not imagining, when you see the midfielders, that's, that's... Not what I was going to say in his wisdom, but exact opposite, in fact, was hoping that the midfields for the two boys made for particularly were going to be more dynamic, but they just haven't got that in their game. Was he hoping that they would almost take it upon themselves to swap positions if necessary, but that just didn't materialize whatsoever? - I don't, I just, and I think we're out, and it's not, it's not having, it's not bashing them, right? But I just don't know. - And listen, it's time to bash them. I don't give a fuck. Like, it's... - No, no, I'm not even talking about Roger. I just don't understand how you can, how you can set up with a midfield to Luke's in it, because he's never going to get up and down to Patreon. - And neither is Miller either, and well, sorry, he is, he's not got to create activity, certainly he isn't going to come from him. So, like, when you play the fans that when you play, I do it, I think, my fingers are the only tits there, no nothing. - But when you play a DM, right, you're expecting someone else to be, to create a force, obviously, because then I got, but we hadn't got that so to expect it just to happen, just because I'll listen, he'll be grand. - That seemed to be the opportunity a little bit, didn't it? Stick Miller in there. He told me he wants to play there, so we were probably getting caught up though in this rally, you know, when we were talking about the two, and the one of the two was going to be creative, then he's looking forward to our head, and we don't need the creation there. We have, for me, we have Lelana, we have Coutinho, they're going to do that. So I think he's looking at it as a block or two, and I think that seems to be really, really gone, really cautious, have pressure building, let's not get beaten, and even that's not war for him. - Yeah, so, like, are we, are we going to talk about him? - If you want, if you want, yeah. - Well, because I want to talk here, because I feel like that was a bit disrad, I kind of rolled candles back for me, and I can sort of excuse other results, you know, you get beaten by your knighted, and I'll traffic, like, you know, that's going to happen the most, and they got to all traffic, like, you know, the Villa game, they were caught cold, and they can see that everything's fucking out the window, and, you know, it's difficult to come back from that. But this was a game where we dominated, you know what I mean, and, so, what happens now throughout the season, when we do dominate games, dominate games and draw on our, giving them one chance in the whole game, and I can see it, and I think it's a mistake as usual, and it's just, it's just got too much for me, you know, and all fellas, like, call this very early, Rogers Hill, call them very early, and they're all very happy with themselves now. But I don't really sign up for that thing of being Roy, if, say, clap was to come in, and things didn't go well from up at the start, I'd like to see him give him time. The same people are going to be called for his head straightaway, you have to give a manager a time, and, like, Liverpool land the toilet club, there should be change in manager all the time, and Rogers was seen as a kind of a long term, so we gave him every, every chance possible. It's bothering me so much now, it's, it's a lassies and part two. It's not like he's finally said to himself, you know what, like, I mean, lassies, and I was wrong to be so kind of fensively minded, like, he sold this product to Liverpool of attacking, pressing, intense football, and playing teams to death, and everything in this dossier. That dossier isn't going to wash shit now, if he goes for a new job, because they'll, they'll just, they'll call his bluff to say to him, that's what you tell Liverpool, what's the story, what, where did you go into protection mode, where have you spent the whole of a season, last season, trying to save your job? And why have you, like, the owners have obviously said to him, listen, that's not good enough, and he must be, had to kind of, um, reflect on everything, and I thought, I was for sure that this season would be the season to say, you know what, I was, I was, I was, I was, I, I loite myself last year, and I wasn't what I should have been, and this time it's buzzer. Let's go down swinging, and let's go change things, and nobody would blame Rogers if he goes, tries to attack teams, and, and it fails, nobody would blame, they go fair play to him. But this is Balak Snellick, and I mean, it's not happening, and I just, I wish it, he was out the corner down, but I've said this too many times now, and it doesn't look like it's going to change, they, I wouldn't like to see him sack tomorrow, just to bring in Gary McAzay, Interim Manager, and God knows, you know, what, what happens to the season then, so they need to be planted ahead, hopefully, hopefully they're speaking to somebody behind a, behind the scenes. They have to be. I don't like to see, I don't like to see, I don't like to see Manager Shaft, and anyway, like, you know, they, they read the young people behind their back, but look, it's the middle of this, it's going to be the middle of the season, if it happens, I'd like to think that they're, they make the plant in the head, where it's actually, you're clapping out. Would you, would you be happy with him down now? Or would you rather? That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't like to see him going tomorrow, if there's no replacement. So if it means, wait until January, I'm bringing a clap in there, so replace and Rogers were clapped. As opposed to replacing Rogers, where, like, just somebody there says, "Filled Thompson, I suck with that." Now, imagine he came in and he put a few results together, the question, if he asked the owner's questions to say, "Oh, well, maybe we'll stick with him, and then you miss out and clap with yourself." And I just, you need to get in and get these fella. There won't be two managers that are available, like that, we're not going to get anyone that's employed right now, like, I mean, who's, eh, Simone, he are, eh, I'm on Emery, off Seville. They're not going to leave the post at this stage, or Rafa. You have to, like, you have to get someone before they are, I don't know. Okay, let me just bring it back around, because, to be quite honest, I'm paying me geek listening to the Rogers thing, because, and it's not that, it's the wrong thing. It's just, it's now, it's gotten so far at this stage. It's like a part of the year of itself now. It's, yeah, and it's, as we said, look, this is a very slow car crash, and tonight is just another example of it. He's not going to have any excuses. He's put out a team that is essentially a force team, and they're struggling to make chances against, I don't know, what, even League, Caroline, or even League 2, League 2, right? And, and the same, the same issues have cropped up again, stupid defensive mistakes, players being caught out of position, fellas rushing in, same issues, and, looks like- Listen, that was, that was, that was something that was used to almost have had a no-handy briefly touched on a day or talk, maybe you can't blame Rogers for, you know, mingles flapping on, but, equally, when people were, were, were fucking, blown smoke or berserk, they were quite happy when, continue pulled out a bit of foot and brilliant to, to congratulate Rogers on a, do you know what I mean? So, you can't have about ways, you can't run around and, and yes, they are individual things, per se, but the manager takes the foot and brought to it, and he has to, and he has to- Look, look, and, and this is what I'm getting around to, you know, looking at the game tonight, looking at the team that he's picked, there's not a single, there's not a single Liverpool fan here that is not expecting us to win under normal circumstances, right? Now, as the torns out, we're drawn here, now, we, we could win this, if you remember, we struggled to beat Middlesbroughton, it was a hundred, hundred, forty-nine thousand two. Yeah, at the forty-nine thousand, thirty-nine thousand, ninety-nine hundred-nine, in penalties last year, and, many late hook twenty-seven penalties in, in the thing itself, we didn't get near one of them. He didn't, he did not take the, was that amazing? I think he might have saved it, we know what I mean. I think, I think, I think, I know what he's saying, that we wouldn't, he's saying, it's not a bit, I think, I know what I'm saying, that's a shit average, isn't it? Well, again, we're back, we've got, we're playing against sub-standard opposition, and we've gone with the trade, the back formation, he hasn't looked to change things around, and, you know, he's playing a very experienced team, he is, going back to Andy's point, if, if you want to come out fucking, you know, harder, just go for it, this is the game to come out and just go for it, yes and no, right? Yeah, most definitely. Well, that's what I've wanted, and that's what I said, he's playing Lucas now, in games which just thinks of him being over cautious again, he needs to go balls out, he's grasping at straws now, if that's what is going on under pressure, he's finally copping on, he's under pressure. Look, you just think about how, how, how, how, what's apparent to this, from fucking thousands loin industry, only two years ago, singing his name over the wall, he was a god, he was a god, and that was playing this fucking brand of football that none of us have seen in fucking years, everyone, it was, had everyone, regardless of the league finish, to watch us play in music, so eating again, and to go back into this, to watch and dribble, and fucking keep us practically smoking a fucking poop in the opposition end against us, you know, it's fucking terrible, it really is terrible, he's broken me, it's broken me much you don't, you don't actually need Luis Juarez, this played a type of football game, he gave us, yeah, of course it helps, he gave us something very, very special, he was, but there was games we played well, and he didn't play well, it did happen amongst the big run, you know, like, it did happen, you know, and it started the season when he was suspended and all, we weren't winning games, so like, let's not just say, the only way Liverpool can play well as the Suarez of the team, he sets a great example in everything, but fuck me, I think it's just Rodgers last his way, and I don't think he has the balls to go back, like, he's clinging on to that job, he's blessed, he's fucking blessed, I just, I just sacked him, and got in, and I'd been out, I'd been spending from last December to, to me seeing him, I could get a proper replacement, maybe they were, and they, they, they couldn't find him, but they're the ones that are sitting down having these chats with him, and I don't know what Francis tells his talent, but like, I was just convinced that someone who's kind of, what do I would do, why was him kind of thing, I was thinking he would have had to say to him, listen Roy, I'm very sorry, it wasn't good enough, let's change a few things in the back room, we get some more players in, and I promise you this season, I'm gonna go back to trying to play like we did in 13, 14, but it hasn't happened, so now we're just, we can't enter where we fired the majority of the football has been shaped rather than, you know, there was a period where it was 50/50, with a great time, and now it's majority show, and that, then few months, then fucking glorious few months, when we were fucking breathtaking to watch, you know, and that's, that's the exception. I think, I think the problem is bigger than Rogers, right, I think the problem is, it's a fun, you know. Yeah, no, it is bigger than Rogers, cause, I'll tell you why, because I was only talking about it during the week, right, like we, we don't spend enough money, and we sell our best players, I mean, no manager, whatever manager, and if you got Jose Mourinho in there, we're not gonna win, fuck all, cause we sell our best players, and we don't spend enough money, I mean, it's a simple mathematical equation, whoever spends the most money wins the league, on average. Yeah. So I'd say, if we keep, we keep the club model as it is at the minute, and regardless of who the fucker manager is, we'll have one good room where we'll nearly win the league once every 10 years, and we'll finish 4th, 5th, 6th, or the other 9th times, we can't. That's the law of average, we're not going to be this beautiful. They have spent more than other teams, in terms of cash, and transfers. We sold our best players, Andy, you know what I mean? We sell our best players, we're not going to win, fuck all. No, we're not. But we don't, we don't pay the dollars. Well, yeah, I'm talking about the one I'm talking about. You don't attract the best players. Like you've seen that thing on the internet today, that the explorers are playing in the mail at 240 grand a week, that is just the minus, and the top players are getting that, like what the most we get from when it's 80 grand, and we're going here for the mailer. Well, we agree with that, right? But I don't agree with that. I don't agree that Mourinho wouldn't be able to get better with them players, or aren't you like? Like Roger's last season, right, as bad as we were, how many points were we off for? I'm not trying to say that. A different manager won't get better and won't get more than those players. They may very well do, but a different manager isn't going to win the league, we'll Liverpool. It doesn't matter. No, I know that. And the lot of averages we won't, we've not qualified for that. Why not even dream? Why not even dream in a win the league? Even just being in contention and with fourth. But if you don't spend the money to be in contention with fourth, you're not going to be... We can't be. We can't be against Liverpool. We're so far. I know it's themed, right? He's gone, but we never replaced him. How many points were we off for? Our last season, Phil. Eight, nine, ten. It's nine, wasn't it? I don't know. I just can't... I am fully convinced, Ray, fifth, as gone by that equation, Ray. Yeah. Fifth is par. And Rodgers has said it a few times. Yeah, it is. But that's what... No, play up on his face because he finished sixth, but fifth is par. So you want the manager who's capable of getting the players to play above par? We've lost Suarez, and we've lost Sterling, but he wasn't a massive player for us anyway. We've got big money for him. There will be players. Our managers out there that can only dream of being out of the spends, the Suarez and the Sterling money. They would have improved the team more. Definitely. They would have got players in from the continent and improved the team more. With that sort of cash to spend, they would have exceeded par. I'm convinced. I'm not going to... I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I think that over the course of this season, right, where I talk to the end of the minute, I'm going to play particularly. But I think if you left... I don't know. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it. 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But I'm not saying it anymore. I'm not saying it anymore. I'm not saying it anymore. I'm not saying it anymore. really Trev's written work at this moment in time has taken a hit because of his health. But he's back, he's writing again and he's arguably one of the best Liverpool writers, if not the best Liverpool writer out there. So look, the book is a great read, get it, read that chapter, you'll enjoy it and it's inevitably Trev's stuff. So look, and you'll see the stuff coming up, he's got two articles, he's got two on Anfield next this week. So get read and try stuff, send them some goodwill messages because I've hacked into his phone and I will be able to respond to some of your tweets. And all those articles you're reading are actually Neil, as we said in the pod. So he's just pretending to be Trev, so keep that on. So your day trippers tonight, they were me, Phil Casey. We had Dan Roberts on stats and Andy Young on computer games from the '90s, particularly Super Soccer and his love of all things Brendan Rogers at the moment. We've Neil Gray, who seems to be some fanboy of David Cameron when it comes to pigs and enjoying himself of pigs. And right ready, that's the man back from talk as he said with the slightly swollen head. So look, Ganoi, God bless. I'm going to try to overlay a track somehow on this, assuming that the kids don't kill me between now and then. And we're back next time, next week, and maybe, just maybe, the regeneration might happen. Good leaving. Now, look at all these things. Actually, there is a question that brings them in. You know, I'm really gay in all the all our football games, you've heard of a Louisan. Yep. Do you remember Super Soccer? Super Soccer. On the Nintendo 64. No, I didn't have Nintendo now. On the Nintendo 64. Yes. Super Soccer was behind the goal view. And all the fake players, it was a fellow on the call of Oscar for Argentina. That was a bledel. Yeah. On the worst player, I was a fellow called court. Off air. Jimmy. He was a Santa man, and he was slow as fuck, and the court's gone against you. It was bizarre. It was like that. Yeah. There it is. That was your organ, I think. That's Italian. That's the game. We're in talk now. Take your paper in the fucking arcades. Yeah. Super soccer. Well, you couldn't play that in the arcades because I'm telling you, that's the that fucking clip there. You're just unless we had that. That was a there was a cheat call. If you were out to do the cheat call, like it was unstoppable shots. Unstoppable shots. Hopefully you pick Argentina and it got Oscar. We'll see the teams come now. Why don't you see court for Germany? I failed you, my muck. Yeah, I was a partridge, Ray. Ah, it's too long, is it? Look, there's a super in here. Yeah. We do remember that game. Very hard to drag the team along. That's a bit of a glitch win. A pause when um, when court comes on, court comes on. I think he was called your, how are you showing that? Obviously called your, this, this song's also, doesn't it? I'm our entrance and 90s. Oh, I love that. That was me. That was me. I don't know what he was trying to tell me. No. What? No, it's good. I forgot all about it. I think it's on Netflix or maybe it's not. German. That's just my, it's good. Look out. Missed our robot. There's the team. There's court there. There's court number eight in the middle of the park. Slow as fuck. And Lautar, he was quality. I can't believe it. So like, yeah, shit stream. It's our, it's our, um, watching the call. Does that mean that's fucking no hoyl? It's going to be, um, if nobody has it. I don't know the hoyl, it's not right. Well, he was cameraing it. It was like, if there's so much. What is camera show? He was cameraing it. Is camera, is that a word now, is it? Are you in the camera? Who's camera in it? I mean, no, I mean, who's doing the camera? It was camera there watching the game. Yeah. Clooching. That's strong. That's strong. I don't want to say the only one brand, the Rajas and all that smoking jazz is gone. Oh, that's not a hint of it. A brand new Rajas. A brand new Rajas, a river builder on the way to the championship. Can only score one goal in a game, but can see it in 15 orders. The dossier was allowed up by him. He got a letter off your mouth. He got a letter from your mouth. He got a letter from your mouth. Oh, he can't believe it. It's down to you. That's a material, sir. Jesus. That's the real thing. It would lie to us. Well, as I started with him coming up with Denion, we haven't been in contact with Anjil Adi or anybody else. We even fucking put that out there. And it's about the screen that they put it in as far as I'm on. Yeah. Yeah, we haven't been in touch with Anjil Adi. Carol, if you're listening, we haven't been in contact with you. Let's play the Troy name here. You're really in charge of this league, apart from Newport. Let's try the name of what it takes for an album. Name teams in the league for our talking in that league, maybe for an album. No, talk here both at the FC Manchester. No, talking about Red Bridge. They're not late. Oh, God. Oh, God. He's part of it during that league. Luton. Part of it during that league. Holy shit, boy. Um, seriously. They're letting our women deny that league. Okay, they've gone back down. Little MC, Wilton. I don't remember the game. Little buddy. Uh, York. Nope. Late Dorian's. Yep. He's in, he's in, he's in. No. York, aren't they? Is this an average for a store killer? Hardly pill. No, I'm trying to say. Crawley town. Crawley town. Are in that league, lads. God, that's the same. We missed it. Wow, God. Nobody. They drew it to Wildy. They were beat by part failed. Can't. I'm ready to miss this. Just for the crack. But holy, wait on the handsome. So Tony Evans can go on an absolute mentaler tomorrow. Holy, keep as much. No? There's more to go to battle. You cheeky. Oh, man. That was worth the panel. The gods needed that to happen. There is a safe. I'm actually ping that we went all over. Just seeing that yoke on the, if you go on to your smartphone, it has frequently visited places. Yeah, yeah. Did you ever see that? Like, basically, it's county gathering information where you're at, and it's an Apple app can access that. And then God knows how many tour party apps are used as well as, you know, terms of use of the app at all. But like, I went out the morning and I said, like, it's shall we open the double amount? Somewhere in the double amount of the salad. So you look. It's a plantation, Andy, wasn't it? Five. Look. I know. Around the Wicklow mountains. Around the Wicklow mountains. No, I'm going to, oh, I'm not going to end up getting hauled in for some sort of more. I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to show you. The compass, we're just looking right. Get out of the way. We're going to feel an enemy phone. I'm not frequently busy. I can't remember being somewhere in the middle of the world. I'm not recollecting that incident, you know. Right, question. Do you want to do a public force? Will we do the tripper's chapter with force? Time to fire up the grill. Time to go to Total Wine and find the perfect flavor to pair with those burgers. Ooh, I love their beer cooler. You love their prices even more. Wonderous selection, helpful guides, ridiculously low prices, Total Wine and more. 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