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I'm Paul Brennan, and my captors tonight in my attempt to make this the worst podcast in history so I don't have to host again are Stephen Daily, Dave Thomas, quiff fancier, pale, pale, cassy, and the undead second time contributor Trev Downey. [LAUGHTER] I'm going to talk about all the action that's gone down this week. Keep it moving. What's that? Yeah, what has happened though? I'll count you in. [LAUGHTER] Two, one, go. Right then, we're going to begin with a little look at our rivals then. But first of all, I think we have to kind of figure out who our rivals are. Because I came in thinking, like, we'd have a look at Chelsea Arsenal United, but didn't feel started. The more I thought, are we looking at Spurs, Southampton, and Everton there? What do you think, Phil? Yeah, I'm with you on this, Phil. Why not with me? I said I'm beginning to think. Yeah, no, no, you're with me on this one then. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, I am. Well, look, I don't see Chelsea and City being our rivals, to be honest with you, right? And I can't-- Arsenal is our target. I always is our target to make top four. But I do think that Arsenal could be very strong this year. Of all the teams that are looking likely to challenge when they probably needed the least amount of players, and they've signed a very good goalkeeper in pair of check, they still need to make one or two songs. Probably not a center forward and a defensive midfielder. And if they did, they have a very, very strong squad. You'd say, like, if they got their shit together, they could very well challenge for themselves. So if you finish with Arsenal, you're definitely going to be in the top three from me. So then it's down to right. So where do we go to next? You know, Tottenham are themselves-- like, Southampton have done it the last two years. They put themselves there, thereabouts in terms of being top four, four, five, six, whatever it is, you know? So I'd be looking at saying, primarily, I'd say, spores are cells, and you know what you're doing? They're scrapping over there, four, please. Yeah, no, you don't think they have. They're getting anywhere near us now. Well, I think everything will do a lot better this year than last year, because they don't have your upper leg. But do I take-- no, look, again, they're squad is smaller than all your teams. And you can boil it down to the numbers. That will take its toll at some stage during the season, as it always has for Everton. So they might do well. They could be talking about being above us and winning the league at Christmas time. But at the time, we get to the end of the season. They'll be beneath the scale. I'm surprised-- I'm surprised you're asking, Sean. I don't see it. I mean, I think that-- Yeah, but you're wrong. Well, awesome. Awesome, Science Sanchez last year, you know? And got less points than they got the year before. They haven't added in. When they've added a goalkeeper, I don't think wins a point. So I don't think they lost their third best defensive record in the league last year. You don't think check is a massive upgrade on Chezney and the-- I think on an individual-- And Ospina, who's the most divorced man on Earth. I think on an individual, a player basis is an upgrade. But you've got to look at, does that get the more point? I mean, that's the whole point, right? Does he change something that was broke in last season? I don't think he does, necessarily. You might get a further ahead than Arsenal. I mean, you don't need to add one player, right? If they add a striker, they don't even need that a striker. I think the defense is still dodgy. They have-- they've made some-- I don't think they need-- I mean, they've got signings on them. I mean, they've got Schneider and their Schweitzer. Well, Schneider and will probably make a difference. Definitely. I think he makes a difference, definitely. They've signed a right back, so they're better a right back. But Schneider backs just keep in the hair? I don't know. I'm telling you. I mean, and even the-- even the centre back, they were looking to buy a Rama, so you know, I just don't think it was the right centre back for them. But I think you're-- I did. I don't see how-- I think Arsenal have more to do left in this window than you-- than you like to do. And I-- like, they still need a midfielder. Arsenal could do with a centre back as well. And they need-- they definitely need a forward. If you look at-- if they're honestly looking to challenge for the title, they need a striker that's going to get him 25 goals. And they don't have that. Was he might-- might have taken it? It's just that Arsenal had less-- had less than buying this window. They had less. But you know, they did have done 80% of their business. Arsenal have-- Arsenal have signed one goalkeeper. Yeah, but again, there's still a lot of time to go on the window. Well, no, but what it's saying on right now, right? Not this fantasy thing where you feel they're going to squad up, like, you know? My biggest hope for you know, it would be that, you know, rail go big for the hair towards the end of the window. Or else the hair has had his head turned. Because I think if they do lose him, or if he doesn't repeat what he did last year, then what Phil said about their defense comes into play, I think, because he saved them so many points. You're looking at it. We were discussed in last year, and the hair got them top four over us. You're looking at the right-- I mean, you know, it's like we put the most optimistic loss on our business. And we're saying, well, I can see-- oh my god, all this is going to click and it's all going to work. And then you're looking at your night there. Or someone like you're trying to go, yeah, but they send them back, you know? And trying to say it goes, is that it goes gone? And Schneigling, that's a big step up for him. Now, how is he going to do? And the pie is fucking very raw, very raw. And if Rooney gets hurt, then they got no striker at all. You know, so that's what we do, right? You're trying to talk to someone else. And where do you sit on this business where Phil reckons we're scrapping it out with fucking fall over or something like this? If you can't start the season, hoping that you're going to be rivals with the likes of Sidi and Arsenal and all that, what's the fucking point? Seriously, in that words, I can completely see the realism of it, just what's the point? I want to be in La La Land for another couple of weeks. Yeah, you want to have a moment of bliss where you're kind of thinking, oh, yeah, we're going to fucking win the league here. And listen, the Liverpool, like all the savings, told us that we've stolen the match over our rivals, Manchester United, and we are going to sign Thomas Mueller. This is fucking amazing news. This is amazing news. And as a result, I'm all turning around. I think we're going to win the league. But we are waiting with Bayon Brett now from Mueller and Royce. Oh, yeah. So, coverage. Yeah, what does he exist? Nope. Yeah, but we thought Joe Gomez didn't exist. And he turns out to be the best player ever. As I said last week, how do we know that that's Joe Gomez? Anyone else. That is very true. But I think that, I mean, I don't think work. I think that I could totally get, like, if we look at where we finished last season and the way we performed last season, but even then, only Spurs finished ahead of us. So, you're going to argue Spurs is-- Your point about, look, we're looking at other people. We're looking at, or we're clutching at straws about the weakness that they might have. And it's a fair, a second point. Because we're trying to paint ourselves in the best place, but, look, Benteke is going to start to season up front for us on his own. Sturge is not going to be back for a couple of months. So, we've got to go with this, right? We've got another wonderful attack over from me. No, Coutinho's going to go back in. Maybe it will work. Well, I certainly like to have the most to do. And we've done the most, right? So, Sydney have added Sterling. They still think they have a lot of gaps in there. In that team, they need a central midfield. But, again, it's wishful thinking, right? It's wishful thinking. Chelsea have added Falco. That's it. You're right, they've done a lot, we've done a lot. So, it depends on whether you have the type of person that thinks that stability is more important. Which, let's be honest, if we don't assign two players this window, I want to be going fucking mental, right? So, if you think stability is more important, then Chelsea and Arsenal and City are probably the most stable. But if you think that, actually, the transfer market is how you make quantum leaps, then, as in United, that have probably have the most reason to feel positive. Because we've done the most business. We've got the best hand. And also, we're trying to poke holes in the teams above us. But I think we're, our fan base is probably guilty more than Spurs fan bases are building Spurs up. Our fan base every year seems to be like Spurs. I remember they signed all the fucking midfielders and we're like, "Oh, no!" And we absolutely demolished them. So, I think we are guilty as well of going to teams around us, like Southampton as well or another team, where, remember, all the Liverpool fans are like, "Oh, we're not going to get in the top half." Yeah, but Southampton just signed Stephen Corca. So, they're going down. So, I wouldn't worry about that. They're like, "Can I have a nail red for an effect?" They're down, basically. I mean, they're basically... They've got 15-point... Shorty classy during the week, wasn't it? They actually signed him yet. I don't know how he's played for them, hasn't he? I think he has, yeah, I think that's done. But, going back to your sports point, they've finished, well, four of the last six seasons? Yeah, which is... Well, we've been certified. No, no, I'm just saying, if you look at it and you look at where we are, take away that one season where we finished second. Yeah. We still have a lot to prove that we're a top four team. Yeah, but I think a lot of our fans do build spores up, and they're basically just kind of like, another version of us, maybe a couple more points a few other years. I think we constantly are fans, you think... Oh, spores have improved, and they're going to not blow us out of the water. Whereas, if we get our shit together, we usually finish ahead of spores, I think. Spores, spores are... Don't, that's the thing. If we get our shit together, it's not a big if... But if we do, we will finish ahead of spores. But you're right about, you know, it's... You know, you can look at what other teams are doing, and you can think, "Jesus Christ, that's... "I mean, that's such a great move." Whereas, if we made that move, we'd probably be more critical of it. I mean, the Pedro thing is a good example of, you know, a lot of people are going, "Pedrophy and I did it, "Oh, my God, what a sign in that is." But I'm telling you, if we sign Pedro for 22 million, half of our fan base would be going, "Mm, not sure about that now, you know, "bit of a boss of Egypt." And to be afraid, another boss, yeah, I'm like... I'm afraid he was late for us. And it was sort of like, some fans are brilliant, some fans that, "Oh, I don't know about that." And then all the fans are, "Oh, shit, he's going to your night." And so, so, that doesn't seem... You know, a three-time European Cup winner, a five-league type of winner, whatever the hell he is, World Cup winner, European Championship winner. And we're all fine, but some of us, and probably people around the table would go, "Mm." (laughing) What a challenge, right? No, we had this chat. I'm out, Pedro, when he was linked with us last year. And we were saying, "Okay." Yeah, on paper, it makes sense. You know, I'll wing forward, somebody that scores goals the whole up, but the problem with Barcelona players, and that's not an over... They don't necessarily adapt when they leave Barcelona. Especially the ones that have come true to Messi, and have only played the Barcelona way right the way through their career, because that's all they know. So, unless they're going to a similar setup, and a team that has similar beliefs, it takes them a longer time to adjust. Bojan is a fucking classic example. He's been to a billion clubs until he arrived at Stoke. And look, he's at Stoke. You know what I mean? Again, it's a mid-table side that if you have 10 good games in the season, of some people are thinking, "No, he's a decent player." He can do it on a bigger side. And then, generally, down to Charlie Adams, a great example of that, you know? I just think, I mean, the Pedro's just an example of how you can look at it, how your perspective of another signing is clouded by whether you're signing them, or whether the club is signing them. Yeah, it's just... Ben Tequis, the ultimate one as well. Ben Tequis is a great example of... I generally think if Chelsea signed Ben Tequis, we'd all be going to fucking hell. I said, "People will be worried." Well, I said a few weeks ago that, I kind of like, when Ben Tequis came onto the scene, I was like, "Jesus, he's really good." But when I heard we were in chess, it's like, "Oh, I fucking did that to Charlie." So, yeah, you have a point there. I'm sort of linked to that then. What are the expectations going into this season? The expectations, but what do we think we should be aiming for? And what do we think we're gonna get then? That was smooth. I like that. That's segue. Segue is a smoother segue than a weekend. So what... Should I have a shit himself here? I do, well. (laughing) I think... Yeah, I'll talk to you. Look, my expectation, I think if he doesn't get top four, he's gonna get fired. Or if he doesn't make a very good fist of it. That's just a sentence, though. What's your expectation? (laughing) So I look at this two ways, right? I think that, legitimately, we have a squad that can finish top four, but I struggle with who's gonna not finish top four. I mean, that's what I genuinely think. That's my issue, isn't it? Who do we bump in here, right? Yeah, the only ones I see are... Or who do we outperform rather than who do we drop? Who do we outperform? Potentially United, if their signings don't work. And potentially City, if they go to shit. Because Arsenal aren't going to go to shit. United, we're very unconvinced in last year. Like, they finished ahead of us, but they stumbled over the line. I think you're a shout if they lost their goalkeeper at the last minute, that would be fucking wins. Obviously, yeah. But... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just sort of think, I want a tilt at top four, like a proper one where we go into the last few games with a chance of getting in top four. I take that, because I think that the teams around that area are quite strong. Just, I don't know if we're gonna get that far, because there is this kind of poisonous cloud around Rogers, where people are just waiting for them. People wanted to clap in, and they're waiting for Rogers to flip up, and I think it's just gonna be horrible if we hit any sort of platform. And that's what clouds my expectation is, the Rogers thing. Because I think it'll go so bad so quickly, if we hit a few bad results. But the reality is, people need to pull their head out of their ass. He's not going anywhere. You know what I mean? They've just spent 80 million pound buying him all the players he wants. They replace his backroom staff with all the people he wanted. They have not lessened his responsibility. They have an appointment at a director of football. They, crop was on the market. They could have went to get him. So, people expect then, first of all, they will not sack in mid-season. But they've imagined the amount of energy he's gonna be invested in actually hating and being negative about him, if we lost the first two or three games. - It'll be, I believe, like you said, to waste of time. - But then, yeah, I agree, it'll be exhausting, but they're not gonna fire him. - I'm bearing in mind that the 13, 14 season is gonna be even further back in people's memories. Like, it's not gonna be like, well, we'll give him one more goal because of last season. This time, if he does run into trouble, he's probably, like, I think it's it. - But look at the fixture that he's got. They've already got the rationale for why they wouldn't fire him after a bad start. They've already got, look at those first seven ways. They've already got, you know, the excuse to give him time, let the fixture list stabilize, go into, you know, a series of fixtures, whereby it's a little bit more kind of, 'cause I don't think it's gonna come to that. I actually think we'll start well. But, like, people sit and they go in, he'd be fired by Christmas, I mean, it's gonna have to go Hodgson level horrific. For them to even contemplate getting rid of it. They didn't wanna fire Hodgson. - You don't remember that, you know? - Do you think it's the, like, the set-up is there that, like, the fans, like, could get that venomous with them? - I don't know. I mean, it's difficult to judge, I think. A lot of it would be about the ground rather than the online presence. It's difficult to gauge what that would be like. I mean, look, everything, everything is a fucking disaster to it, you know what I mean? It's like, you know, everything's bad. - Failure's your statement to say something there, go on. - My expectation for this year is to get back into the Champions League by hook or by crook, right? And I don't know if we can deal through the league, but I know we can deal with it when we're up in the league. - Oh, here we go. - I'm fucking curious. - Oh, yeah, it's a good show, too. - Yeah? - Yeah. - I mean, I'd be with him as well. - And it kills two boards at one stone. You win a trophy, you win a European trophy, so if you win that, like, fucking straight away, Rodgers is one of European trophy, and he's also got the claw back into the Champions League. And it's, I still don't think it's as hard a trophy to win as it is to break the top four with the four teams ahead of us. Well, the five of you include sports, given that we didn't finish ahead in the last year, so, you know, we have to get above sports for a start. Our aim, as I said, our aim in every single season should be the finishable version, right? That's the minimum aim that we should be doing. It's not top four, it's finishable version. Because if you finishable version, there's a good chance you're gonna finish toward. If you just fall short of finishing above Arsenal, you're probably gonna end up fourth. That's always a target for me. And then, like the season before last, I still believe that we got it into our heads that we could catch Arsenal and get past Arsenal after we hammered them. Remember in the February of that year, right? And then as soon as that belief was there and we wanted to put space between ourselves and them to consolidate and get overloading quickly for the Champions League, straight away you're into a run which takes into a title challenge. So, now, and this is not me saying we're in for a title challenge, but I just think the logic is get above Arsenal, stay above Arsenal, and then anything can happen after that. - Yeah, so you think it's easier to win the Europa League? But do you, like, and unlike, yeah, on paper it is, just give the Europa League everything winner and you're in the title today. - Ignore the fucking League Cup. Ignore the FA Cup, right? And I'll tell you why. And this is the mad logic that always gets to me, right? People are always in, oh, win the League Cup, win the FA Cup, good tradition, history and the whole lot. Win those two trophies. You're in the fucking Europa League which everyone has done, the Alta tournament was in. - Alta Ballux, win the Alta League, and you're in the Champions League. - Do you look at us on the Rodgers and think that it would be easier, more realistic for us to go and win a European Cup when he's been so bad in Europe, basically. Let's put it that way, where is he has shown that he can put the run together. - Okay, if you want to, the most likely Cup he'd win is the League Cup because that's the one that's had the biggest number of winners over the last 20 years, right? The FA Cup tends to be won by a team that's in the top four, right? So, you're only really going to win the FA Cup if you're finishing the top four, right? So I'm saying to you, it's going to be a tough note for us to crack the top four. We're wasting energy with concentrating on the FA Cup and the League Cup because neither of them get you into the Champions League. So, all our focus and all our energy for this whole season has to be on the two things that can get us into the Champions League. And everything after that is just a complete distraction. And this ball looks out here, but we'll just present the second straight into your Open League and the whole lot. If that gets you through the group, fine. But if it doesn't, then to me, that's another European failure in Roger's book. And Roger's, of all the things he has to do, we're talking about, he has to get top four of the whole lot. His record in Europe as Liverpool manager is fucking pathetic. - Yeah, I agree with most of what you're saying up to the point where I think it's far more realistic that he kind of picks the league. He beats one of the teams in and around us over the course of a season in the league, then he goes out and just suddenly cobbles together this giant run in Europe and wins the Cup. - But it's progress, isn't it? - I think both of them are likely, to be honest. Both of them are neither of them are a slam dunk. The thing that makes me slightly nervous about the top four thing is, I think the top four, the gap between, say, Chelsea and Sydney and Spurs, or let's say Chelsea and Arsenal and, let's say Southampton, they run this, but the gap between, say, the top four of five and the rest of the league is gonna be bigger next season than ever. So, like, it would not surprise me for Chelsea to go through the league and beaten. You know, it would not surprise me if Arsenal only lost two games and they were probably against the title rivals. Do you know what I mean? The kind of father in the league. So the amount, I think the amount of points you're gonna need next season to get into the top four is gonna be bigger than what it was last season and probably bigger than it was the season before. So actually, our ask is bigger. It's not that it's impossible on, or even on, you know, much more unlikely, but Europe, I think it's easier to plot the strategy to win the Europa League than it is to plot the strategy to win the Premier League. And also, and also, Dave, our squad is better set up than it's ever been on the Rodgers for European tilt. There's a lot more attack and talent available that isn't, like you said, second string, proper footballers there. And they could have half decent defence going out each time. And I heard today somewhere, I think every single game we have in Europe in the group stage is followed by a home match, which is a massive advantage as well. - I do the two team thing, but I play the second team in the league against the cannon fodder in the league. Like I think if you're playing the sectors in the Europa League, and then your game on Sundays against Sunderland, then, put it out, put it out. - The Europa League, the IBS, the Origis against them. - But again, the Europa League offers you the opportunity in the group stages to be more conducive to rotating the squad around, because there's going to be a lot of teams from poorer leagues that you should be able to beat easier than say the cannon fodder in the Premier League. - Awesome. - You can actually take a game by game without disrupting your whole season when you look at that. - But that's not a massive challenge for Brandon, 'cause he hasn't looked like he can do that. - But Trev, that's exactly what he has to do. This is what I'm talking about learning and progression for him this year. - If he is to maintain his position as Liverpool manager into the future, that's a critical learning point from, and it's a critical progression in his managerial career, because if he can't manage a team that plays in Europe and plays in the league at the weekend, or can't manage in Europe, then he has no future on what he has to happen to see. - Yeah. - But he's got the squad fight, I think, is your point, Trev. - Yeah, we're better set up than we have, but-- - Maybe we're saying, well, 14 players in two summers. I mean, you know, we're-- - This is his point, yeah. - And I don't know the strategy. I just think that the idea of writing off the Europa League as just, you know, a glorified training session for our reserves is mental. - As bananas. - You know, he's either gonna blend it and not have two teams and, you know, take it in chunks of 10 games and say, okay, these 10 games, you know, Milner and Henderson are probably gonna play it. - I think that's the most likely. - Yeah, and you're playing in Europe and at the Premier League, you know, I think you do things like that, and look to rotate more as the season goes on. Get through the group stages, then see where we're at. - Okay, like, so he has a lot of options in the squad, one of the things that's been kind of gain and traction this week is who's gonna start in defense, specifically 10 children, friends. Now, a few weeks ago, Phil, this was put to you when you thought that's a load of bollocks given out about who's playing in friendlies, but as the friendlies have worn on, Mamadice Sacco isn't playing much, and when he does, it seems to be with, like, certain reserve teams. Like, it's a second string team that he's playing in, and Deja and Lovren is kind of playing quite a lot in the first team, so what do you think now? Has your tune changed at all? - Yep. (laughing) - We're not on periscope at the moment, but this is the most resigned I've ever seen, Phil. - I said to you that weeks ago, that I reckoned he'd start the season along so it was our fourth choice center back. I'm not sorry to resign myself, and in the same way that I'd resign myself that we're still gonna be attacking, I'd resign myself that Lovren would start the season. - But that's your natural pessimism coming out. - It's not, but when everyone else was kind of saying, "Oh my God, Lovren's gonna start the season." You were kind of going, "No, that's bollocks. "This is only friendlies." - Initially, yeah. And then they decided to descend Sakowoff just to take selfies in the crowd and get his bid showing by the man, right? So I said to myself, "Look, you know what I mean? "You can lose your plot over what goes on, "friendlies in the whole lot, "and you can lose your plot over who's gonna start the season." But look, what's happened every year with Sakow is that he's been bained, and then the person that's been playing instead of him as being overly shit, then he's got in, kept his place, and that person who was meant to start the season ends up being the bained. So, you know, I know I'm gonna have to go to show a few weeks of Lovren, but then he'll be dancing on Lovren, and Sakow will be back in. So I'm not gonna lose the plot over this. - Dave, I think you think of it definitely, you think Sakow's gonna start here. - Well, I think if you look at, aside from two friendly game selections, which could be for a number of reasons, right? Could be, like, Lovren does need to get game time. He does need to like build his confidence up a little, but he does need to-- - Just sit up. - Well, they're not gonna sit up. - So this is what's so stupid about some of these arguments, is you can't just, like-- - Don't care, stupid, just throw him in the 16 side and say, "We're never gonna talk to you again." Like, he's caught at a squad. I think that, I do think they're worried about Sakow's fitness as well. Like, it suffers a lot of muscle strains, and that's why I wonder why they think, and geez, all the climate changes, and the travel, and the jet lag, and all that kind of stuff. Throw in this guy into like, you know, competitive games is probably not the smartest thing to do. We don't need to do that. So I personally, the other massive bit of evidence is that he started Sakow in every game when loved one was fit for the last six months. So he's gonna start the Sakow every time. So, like, why would the, when Sakow every time Sakow would be fit for the last six months, he started, right? So I don't see what's changed over the summer that makes Roger suddenly go, "Oh, I'll bomb him out." - But there is the perception that he, you know, the threshold for where he says, "That's unacceptable from Sakow." It's quite lower than what it is for love, and like, love and seems to get away with it a lot more. - I think a lot of times we project, you know, theories onto what the manager does. And the reality is, I'm sure it's not as sinister as people would like to make out that he fucking hates Sakow and he loves love her. Like, Sakow was a committee sign in and love runs his sign. So he loves, you know, it's absolutely bollocks. We, you don't get to see these players in training like that. - I agree, I agree, which it is. - I don't, I don't think it's a cynical kind of day. A shoulder committee now event being Sakow. But I do think he has a bit of bias towards the players that he kind of said. - Because he has a way of playing, like every manager, he has a way of playing, right? And in his head, whether that transcends itself onto the pitch, in his head, he thinks, this is the way I wanna play, and this player, or these players, or this way of playing, or this style, or this tactic, or whatever, is gonna work for me. Obviously, that doesn't always happen. But you wanna see telling me that Brendan Rogers, who, as we've all just talked about, right, could get Sakow's manager, is gonna deliberately weaken his team to make a point to a group of men that he has to work with every day, that he's gonna deliberately make a team weaker. - Or does he know he's weaker than his team? - But that's what it's different, right? He might genuinely think that love run for the way he wants to play is a better sign. - Yeah, that's what I'm worried about, though. I don't think it is a cynical kind of, I'm gonna stick my finger up the committee here and binge their player. What do you think, Tramp? - And I'll never say you about that. - My entire Sandy is relying on my ITK chums who are telling me that the journals are telling them that it's definitely gonna be Sakow and Skirtle to start the season, and that's such a fucking shit thing to be reliant on, and yet I am. - We should be worried about Skirtle. - We should be worried about Skirtle. - We should be worried about Skirtle. - We should be worried about Skirtle. - It's a very good fucking point. - The fucking hell. - The fact that this guy is-- - He has the voice captain hat, he's grand. - Yeah, he has the voice captain hat, yeah. - And this guy is our first to happen, basically, like, I could, like, love run and Sakow fight it out. - Untouchable. - But they're fighting it out to partner one of the worst defenders we've had in fucking life. (laughing) - Thank God for the Joe Gomez renaissance. (laughing) It is only a matter of time before Skirtle, but we're gonna be shit defensively, lads, right? So, we may as well, well, we are. Look at the way he's trying to, look at the way we're gonna play next season. He hasn't signed a defensive midfielder. He signed the most attacking right back in the league, right? He's got the most attacking left back in the league. - But he is at least the right back. - Yeah, he is at least the right back, rather than the zombie. - There is that last season. And you still think the midfield is grand the way it is, Phil, the just-- - That's great. - You. (laughing) - That's great. - He's not been serious at all, is he? - I think, 'cause you think it's gonna be a nice little rotation thing, where everybody's gonna, like, eventually, fill in, fluently. - I think it's gonna work. - I think the first couple of games will probably be fucking tear your hair out when you see the selection. - Yeah, it'll be all over show. - And then it'll settle down once he realizes that he could get the sack, right? - Okay. - And then that's what's gonna happen. - But that's been terrible in the past, 'cause it's led to him picking the same shit team week in, week out, with his shit favorite week in, week out. - Listen, he's not gonna get the sack, 'cause he's not gonna beat the sack. - No, no, no, that's not what I'm saying, but he knows he's not gonna get the sack. - But once the pressure comes on, then he'll start making intelligent decisions, which is generally what he does, right? Now, I'm hoping that the pressure's on now. I hope that the pressure is on now, so that he starts making intelligent decisions from the Nazis. - But lover in a side, lover in a side, right? And we've debated that. What selections is he making in preseason that's making you think that he's gonna make all these mad decisions? Like, you mentioned that these pick is the right midfield. - Well, Alan and Lucas are in it, so it's not. - But who's you gonna pick instead? - Is it a traffic home? - Anyone. - Do you know what I mean? - Seriously, who's you gonna pick instead? You wanna play Emmerish, and Emmerish. - No, so who's you gonna play? - I'd play Rastavir, give him game time. - I'd be if not. - I'm fucking serious. - Rastavir's my four foot forward, but it's... - I don't give a shit. - I don't give a shit. - Look, we have two lads there who are just not capable of playing there. Right, so... - I wouldn't play the bad in no Lucas and Alan. - I thought, well, I thought Lucas wasn't good at all, in pre-season, and Alan, every time I watched Alan, I wanted to kick him. Because he already fell over, he wasn't playing well. He just didn't play well in pre-season, and it was just gone. - He did, though. - Jesus Christ, will we sell this for her? Like, do you know what I mean? Just get rid of him, because he's a nothin' player. He was a fan of Alan, and I've looked at him, and I'm going, you're not bringing anything. Yeah, if you're gonna play in this role as a defensive midfielder, you're not suited for it. You'll never be suited for it. So this is the stupidest decision ever, right? So, but I will say, attacking was, I think we're a lot better. - Yeah. - So I think we'll score a lot more goals, which is important when we play against shit teams. Because last year, we played against shit teams and scored no goals. So, you know, if we can not concede the 50 goals, we concede every season. But then we'll have a better season. - You basically don't like Bentake. So where are all these goals coming from for me? You know, he's gonna hit 20 in his first season. - You have to. You have to, but all right, listen. - I said last week, Ben Heskey, if you scored 15 to 17 goals, I'll be happy with that. - Yeah, now, yeah, I saw what I, yeah. - I think that's what happened. - I think that's what happened. - I think that's what happened. - I would take 15 to 17 goals. Didn't Heskey get 18 in his fourth season? I mean, so it is possible, right? So I'm 10, you know. - So it is possible 'cause Emile Heskey did it. - But I'm just saying, right? That if we get 15 to 17 goals, out of Ben Heskey, we'll be grand, right? Now, if you get Firmino and he chips in with 10 goals, be from set piece to whatever, that's a good return. You've still got storage to come back. I think you can get more goals as well this season. So I think attacking boys will actually be fine this year. - Okay. - I'm just, I'm just waiting until the intelligent of the, the intelligence of decisions will be revealed as to who plays where, and I think to start the season, I don't think for me, you know, starts the start of the season because he's, I think Alana will start ahead of him. And I think, you know, when you look at the midfield, Lucas or Alana will start ahead of Chan because Chan hasn't been there for the whole preseason. I think those lads will come in gradually over the fourth couple of games. - Which is where it should be, it shouldn't be playing. - Well done. - Well, there's that bit about like, there's not playing players who aren't fully fit and I'm playing shit lads. And look, I'd rather play player who's 80% fit because they give you more on the shit lads. - Well, I gotta be honest, I'm obviously at the, yeah, they're in the respect of our family because I actually think-- - I think you're at the end of a few specks. - Yeah, I actually think the, the shape and the system that we've played, you know, from a defensive perspective is actually not pretty good in preseason. Two mad moments aside, right? One in first game where we conceded where Lucas didn't track the ball and one when Lover and a Skirt will add their, you know, walk in dead moment. But the rest of the time, I actually think Henderson and Miller in midfield works really well with someone with them. So I think you could play that two ways. You either play with them too slightly deeper, we'll continue ahead of them, we'll play them as attackers, which is what I think he'll do, particularly looking at our fixtures. He's gonna go, he's gonna go away to stalk on his first game. He's gonna have to dog it a little bit. That's why Alan or Lucas is gonna play. But I think that's fine, I think that's work. Are we worried about the lack of specialists maybe in midfield? Obviously, I think everyone knows that the DM-shippers said we're not playing. We also don't seem to have a player who can kind of dictate games on his own with his past. And we simply put all our eggs in there. These three lads can combine well and will play well, Baske. I think he's not gonna play that way. There's so much up in the air before this season because formation-wise in terms of individuals coming into the team, more new lads that were reliant on hitting the ground running. You know the way Liverpool fans used to be famous for, you know, this could be our year. I really think we could win the league this season. Have you heard this fucking podcast, haven't you? Like, seriously, we are all so scarred as humans. It's fucking unbelievable. It's like a support group in here. It's like a support group in here. It's about cut that's going on in the middle of the world. Jesus. I'm not, I'm just being honest. It just fears I have, I've just seen. It's just, it's just, you know, amazing shit. You're coming up with stuff like the manager, it isn't gonna make intelligent decisions until he fears the sack. That's fucking nonsense. Like, that's what happened last year. He's already decided the way he wants to play. It's already a bit. How do you know? Of course he has, he's played 4.3.3 in every single game. If that's the case, then, I'm on board. I said it last week, if that's the shape, we're gonna play Brilliant, right? If we turn up on the fourth day of the season... That's the shape we're gonna play, that's fine. Apart from picking all the shit players... Picking all the shit, I think it's shit. I think it's shit that. I think it's shit that. Seriously though, I can, I've no issue, but I saw him play a certain shape last year in preseason and didn't start the season with it. And my worry is that every season we've started, we've started with a 4.2.3 one. Right, so... No, no, no, 4.3, 3, all fucking summer. And then the same right fourth kind of season, we lucked this day, we won't play this way, we didn't play that. Your issue in preseason last year was that he played 4.2.3 one in preseason and 4.2.3 one at the start of the season and you don't like 4.2.3 one. So you didn't change it. You just played the system you don't like. So he's playing this year in the system that he has. Well, he has to play us for it now, doesn't he? He has played us for a 4.3. It's easy, he's going to go in the first day against Stoke pre-season talk. Remember what we did against the tight Pepsi-Cola All-Stars? Do that again last year. But we've been a bit like a headless corpse, like, you know, we've had no attack in threat, really, you know. That's because we haven't gotten a big bend into the team yet. It's only a matter of time. Watch it happen. I'm a fan of tech, I think. I think he's going to be great. I think he's going to be great. Fifteen to seven in gold, I'm happy. Sit in and look at pig and shit. If he's got us for 15 goals, that is a hell of a return for his friends. What's that on you? Happy days. Trev touch done, you know, just do what you did against the thawy, cold, 11, or whatever they were at. On that kind of subject, OK? The planets have aligned, OK? And Mark Lawrencean has taken a break from being a giant rabbit's minge, and he's actually made two points, OK? Two points that have actually resonated with Liverpool fans, well, sections of the fans. One of them is that he feels that our pre-season hasn't been intense enough. He thinks there's been absolutely no competition. And I always spoke last week that that's kind of good, buying a few goals, and we're OK defensively. But he feels that with only two games left to go, two friendlies, I think they're, I think they're consecutive days. Well, sad end Sunday. So it's basically just one round of friends. Friendlies have friendsies. Yeah, friendsies, yeah. Laurel feels that we're nowhere near the level we should be. We're not really in, are we? At the moment. I have to say, it's wonderful that we have a Laurel White section on this podcast. I'm delighted to be returning to it. Look, basically, if Laurel's saying that you should pretty much go with it, complete opposite way, and take a lot of heart from that. So Laurel says we're fucked. I'm happy, what does he say? Well, he also says that I should shut the fuck up. Which is a bit difficult now. To be fair, that's actually a very good point. LAUGHTER What is the deal with this? I mean, every day, he seems to do about three interviews. I'll tell you what happened, right? Dave Thomas once said to us, right? So he's only going to want our two interviews out, and it's just the same lines out of every interview. Ever since then, he's been out every single day with a new-- Almost a point, yeah, almost. It's like I've got a direct line to fucking Atlanta, just to get rid of Dave Thomas' nose. I think that just on the first point, I think there is a well-established theory that there is a fuck-all correlation between anything that happens in preseason and the season you're about to have. We had an adultman last year, and we all thought we were going to win the league, and look at the season we had. There's no correlation between it. The team, the manager, the fitness people, they know what the best thing to do is, and they, I'm sure, they structure the preseason competition, probably because we're in the Europa League, and actually there is four Premier League games before the international this time, rather than three or something like that, or whatever it is, and they probably figure that playing a slightly lower-class opposition, you know, working on fitness, working on technique, trying to integrate more players, actually, it's more important than playing in the fucking Emirates Cup against-- So what you're saying is that, even though Laurel thinks we look a bit leggy, you're not worried. I just think that there is no-- We have no idea what a good preseason looks like to have a good season. You know, what does that look like? It's bullshit. There's no correlation between it. It is, though. It's bullshit. At the end of the day, try to have your first point with the best. If he says it, think the opposite. And I'll allow that person, I'd love to hear more for a bit. [LAUGHTER] It's fucking weird. You want to bring him home to Mam, you would. OK, then there's quite a few-- we seem to have done most of our incoming business, but there's quite a few shits around that won't flush. And are we likely to flush these lads, like, while we're talking? Well, I think there's a few inevitabilities, right? We're going to hear loads of stories with Balotelli and Seven Million quid, and then he'll go on loan and on transfer deadline, right? Yeah, or for free. Yeah. And the same will happen with Barini. We'll probably get a 100 million bid for Barini, and he won't want to go there, and then he'll go out and loan to someone along the last day on the transfer deadline day. Lambert looks to be on his way if he can just get him out of training, because he just won't go. He's working. He's working his way from one side of the pitch to the other. [LAUGHTER] He'll be there and win. He's soldered the laps from the first session. He just needs the fabled full preseason under his belt. That's all. That's all. And Andre Wisdom has gone along to narrows. What do we make of this? Because he had just signed a new deal, hadn't he? Yeah, yeah. I'd look, I don't think he's going to have a future club. He's not coming to work. If he did, he'd be staying this year, because we should be needing him for cover, and he's not. Yeah, Big Joe Gomez can't affect him without even playing a match. Andre Wisdom is one of those players that we'll always make money on, right? Because his English player sent the half. He's kind of a good defender. He's been around a couple of clubs. I think we're getting 1.5 million as a loan fee, which is brilliant. You know, if we sold him, we would have probably already sold it for 1.5 million before he signed the contract. We'd get 1.5 million this season. And he does well. And he's selling for 2 million. That's 3.5 million. But he clearly has no future as a club. Clearly, he's not good enough. He was never good enough, though. And that someone made a great point to me that I was thinking, maybe we might get 3 or 4 million from him. But who's this James Chester has gone for something like 8 million, so I don't know, maybe we'll get... If he has a good season on Orange, some kind of a fucking hole. If he has a good season on Orange, and Orange, or something like that, then you'll get 4 or 5 million from him, you know, his price has got... Yeah, look at that again, you know, best of luck to him as well. But he did well for the 21s and stuff like that. And you don't want to see if fellow just go down the tubes either. Like, you know what I mean? No, it's... He seems to be a noise bloke in terms of the stuff that you've seen him around the press. It's a shame, but they've obviously made a judgement on them. They clearly have. I think the Lawry one will be interesting. Yeah. I think this is his make-up break. Yeah, he seems to be having the kind of... The time wisdom had last year where he kind of needs to break into the team. He needs to get into the team and test share it as well. Like, everyone thinks that I got to share his only a kid break himself, but what's his 20-20? It's a 20-20 or something. Yeah, yeah, so it's like it's make-up break for him as well. I don't think he's going to make it. I don't think... I think it's too many players in front of him. Just think, you know, he's not... It's amazing. He's not quick enough, he doesn't score enough goals. He can't play in that front three. And Lawry, I just don't think he's ever going to get the chance. I just think the manager doesn't fancy him. He's never... It's just never going to happen. But will we be lucky enough to move on all three of the lads that you mentioned at the start? That's the big question. Like, by the tally, we kind of went into the market saying, "Okay, by the tally, you can go for half of what we paid for him." And I think it's a Santoria Chairman that's come out and said, "No, we're not going to... You can reduce that again." Oh, he's been a cheeky fucker. I don't think so. I think, and I'm seeing people going mental going, "Oh, those Italian clubs, you know, I always try to drive the price down." Yeah, of course. That's what they're trying to do. Just because we're crappin' it, right? Just because we're crappin' it, right? We're not paying $22.5 million for Bentech 8. We're not paying $22.5 million for Bentech 8. Okay, we pay $23. It's only six weeks in the winter. Fuck. Quick before they call it a shock. They didn't get the awesome power steam, we're not going towards it. Oh! And the worst ever. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not ever here for Bentech 8? Oh, Jesus, man! Get the fuck out! It's only six weeks left, and absolutely nobody else wants to buy it. Quick, get it. But the ballet tally thing, I think Andy made a good point on... I don't know if he was on the part on to it. I want to use, like, you know, for all year, right? We've heard how great ballet tally is, and how Rogers has mishandled it, right? And how really ballet tally's better than Bentech 8, you know? And we should just be working on... Well, where's all the smart managers then? Rogers is such a bad manager. Where's all the smart managers that, actually, if they just treated him right, and just were nice to ballet tally, he'd actually be a really great player. Exactly. Why are the only clubs that want them to promote their clubs in, going from Saribet to Saria, and Sam Doria, who want them for free? Yeah, truth be cold. One of Brendan's strengths, whether you're like him or Radum or not, is his man-management. And if he can't get anything out of your mind, then, you know, it's not a great time. It's just, it's another stick to beat Rogers with. Yes. You know, he hasn't been able to get anything out of ballet tally. Well, where the fuck are all... Where's Manchini coming in for a 10 million pound bit? At the end of the day, this is, I think, the third summer in a row where a club is dying to see the back of ballet tally. Exactly. And then Milan just barely got rid of him last year, because we came in. Yeah. It's clearly a tad of the kid, but there's clearly bigger issues there than what we see on a football pitch, right, you know? Okay. Then Liverpool, apparently, have come third in a survey of sort of the biggest bollocks club in England behind United and Chelsea. What do we make of that? Grant. Grant? Do you know who cares? It's okay. Seriously. It's like, what club do you hate? The fuck are you in the survey about what club you hate? I know. I know. Imagine being the type of cunt that fills in a survey on the mirror about which club you hate. Like, I used to imagine that from there. Like, go and pick Chelsea. Right? You're coming down the club, Dave? No, I know. I'm not going to say the first thing. I'm not going to work in London. I've got some surveys I need to fill in about, you know, clubs that I hate. It's a stoke at the top there. Like, genuine. It must be not stoke fancy, fucking filling in. Unless you play in a club, do you ever think about other clubs? Unless you play in them that weekend. Does it ever cross your mind to hate other clubs? I don't. I don't. I don't. Well, you hate Liverpool enough, so. I'm going to be on a good space for it. It was a survey of one. I hate Chelsea, and I fucking troll Liverpool in there as well. I hate you for what you've done to me. Dave will just say five in an August five. I hate five in an August five. I think that's basically it other than Trippers Chats as a. What about the real truss? Yeah, you forgot the roof, bro. I was sorry. Yeah. That's not the roof. Hang on. Hang on. I'll tear it up and I'll let it out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He's not a chance. Fucking cunt. So we're talking about the roof, are we? Well, you have to. You have to talk about the roof. Did you not see the pictures? Okay. They put the truss on. Did you not see it? Oh, we never talked about our new shit Brazilian name. Ah, Alan. Fuck that shit. Can't be on Bob. Phil. Luke. Us. No, but, you know, it's Firmino and it's fucking Coutinho. Alan. Oh, come on. But you said it isn't. It is. It's still all their first names. Yeah. Alan. Bob. Phil. And Lucas. But they don't go by fucking Bob and Phil. They go by fucking deck names. And in this night... It could be Fred. Remember Brazil playing in the World Cup with Fred or Fred? Fred. There was another one even worse again. But Alan's bad. Alan is bad, yeah. For a Brazilian. Is he good or? Douglas was ill. Howard. He's... Howard. Don't. Howard. That ducos. Is Alan supposed to be good? He was an 18-year-old and he's potential half a million move from SC International. Which means he'll get loaned out and he's on the interview. I don't know. I don't know. A whole lot of it. A big figure or something. But look at Ferris. Look at his fault. That's his name. It's obviously his parents' fault. They need to take a look along and look at themselves in the mirror. Like, you don't like people called Alan and they're like, "Oh, man." Or is it just Brazilians? Prince! I don't like Brazil. Every Brazilians have a kill name. Let's be honest. I grew up at Brazilians. There wasn't like a fucking Alan in the 86. And the fact that they tend to be given a lot of names and he's picked Alan out. Oh, no. He has Rodriguez, the salesman. Had you just put the sales on? He would have been a salesman on Mambo for that. Or Rodriguez would be on that. Alan. Alan. Yeah, he's coming for that one. Fair play to him. As long as I don't know his fellow, I might be like... The roof trust is that this is the big news that the roof trust was. The roof trust. This was absolutely brilliant. Rivet and stuff. Oh! Hey! Hey! Hey! I've just sealed the day and I'll have to present another part. I'm actually quite literally going to leave now and go for a piss. That is terrible. That is terrible. Dave, you wanted to talk about the roof trust. What did you have to say to us? Yeah, Dave. I feel like they've made up the word trust. That was my big thing about it. I was like... Have I seen that word before? I don't think I know. They've just made that up to make us a brand new thing. We're going to find out that a month it's going to be like... Trust sponsored by Dr. Pepper. I don't get it here. I just never heard that word, but I don't give a fuck. Yeah, there was a bit much made of it. They weren't really asking what a part of this thing was. I was like... I just wore it at school. You know, it was leaning on something that's going to scare me. I couldn't give a fuck to you. But the build up to it. Basically it was like... Look at this amazing... They're putting the thing on the top. It's a giant hunger of metal being put on a bigger hunger of metal. We've all lived in Dublin for the last God knows how many years. Seeing something lifted by a crane is not exactly, you know, news to us. It's just shit. When the stand is finished. The only thing I like about it is that it prompts a whole stadium debate on Twitter between like fans who have season tickets, fans who don't have season tickets. It's not going to be big enough. It's going to be too big. We should've gone to... Too many conferences. It's quite fun to watch all that happen. But I suppose, given that we probably won't sign any more players for the rest of the window, it does allow us now to have name and rights rumours because they will have to replace the players in any way. And they have started. They started to make that move, yeah. Uradio are back in. Uradio. I remember the last time they were back in and they said, "Look, I don't know what the fuck he's talking about like this." That's another made-up meme as well. It's not going to be just making upwards, Joe Gomez, Truss and Uradio. I'm not even fucking hearing it. One thing I've forgotten about the departures, Barini apparently has been linked with Aston Villa. Aston Villa, we've heard the story about today. Are we ever where, like, easy? They're not saying that important to me. That seems to be the dream team. That seems to be the reality. They started to just try to replace Voice and Benteque with Adebior and Barini. That's wonderful. Isn't it? It gets basically the same thing, isn't it? The same thing. The same thing. The same thing. The same thing. The same thing. The same thing. The same thing. The same thing. That's the one edit you'll do on the part. Don't get rid of that. How do I? The same thing. If you were a football manager, what would you have to even judge Barini on? It's movement. But, like, you had half a good season at Sunderland. I mean, what the fuck else has he done? Like, you know? I mean, I don't even know how you take that. He's got to be another last minute. Exit, and there's going to be loans all over the fucking place. Loan first. Because people want to have something to cry about. They can cry about that. What's left in a contract here? It probably is a one year. We'll probably do it cleverly. Remember, you know, it's just like cleverly going on. But, when I've only one year left in my concert, just half a year ago. Yeah. I mean, I think he died. I think he's saying the Premier League of Barini. I think he seemed to be doing well. I think he's somewhat... I genuinely think he's more suited to Italian League. There's an awful lot of Italian strikers. They're suited only to the Italian League. They're mobiles. It's not only. He went off to Dortmund. It was complete flop, right? And it works grand for the type of football that are not often out of Italian teams play, where it's all really tight and you look for a fellow at the moment, and they're able to get true balls into many scorers' goals. And I think he'll do well in Italian League. I don't see how he does well in the Premier League. Yeah, he's a bit of a... He's a bit of a Philippo and Zaggy that was dropped in his head or something. It's okay. That's kind of sums them up a bit. There's nothing outside the box and there's not much inside the box that he does. He doesn't really score many goals. Yeah, but we are not getting rid of him for any amount of money. If he was English, he'd be the most hated player at the club. It's only because he's Italian, and then again, it's Roger's bad man. But again, I think the gas thing is we've all just completely forgotten Enrique is there. Or we've all just accepted that Enrique is going nowhere. And we'll spend his whole summer and his whole winter on holidays. I'll just buzz around here. He can't be kept anyway. Can he be kept again this season? No, he's there. He's there. He's there. He can't be there to start. And to be fair, he's willing to go. Yeah. He gets across the page. He gets across the pitch. Alright, that's that then, I think. We're in charge now. Oh, yes. We're in charge now. Hello, this is Ronnie Wheel and Aaron, your list of triple chats. Unbelievable stuff. You asked me anything about Liverpool FC. I will answer it immediately. I'm an encyclopedia. As you know, I play for Liverpool in the 1980s. What many trophies played with the likes of Kenny Daggle each game soon as we wanted to want a team we were. We were just unbelievable. Anyway, triple chats. Some triple chats have come in then on Twitter. Um, Jalek Wreck, it asks, "What are your predictions for the biggest disappointment of next season?" I'd say Phil probably has about 17 predictions. If you're a fucking spit will know. So we're talking about Liverpool. I'll take it. Yeah. What do you think is going to be the biggest disappointment of the season? I think you and I did were win the league. Oh, really? That's a fucking... That's a horror show. I mean, I'm... I'll be disappointing, all right. I'll try to... I think that would kill me because we were above them and so far ahead of them. But if they do two other signings, I send them back and I forward, they could win the league. That's a monstrous improvement though. That's basically our 13, 14 season. They have to have only... They have to go all the way in, wouldn't they? Yeah. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm saying that would be like the biggest... Yeah, that would be my... Either that or like... I just hit the joke. Like, Firmino won't look out. Like, the one sign in the day. I'm so excited about it. I'm so excited about it. I mean, it was sad. Did you not see it from all the past? I mean, I feel like LaMella. You know, I was so excited. I was so excited. I was so excited. I definitely did fuck off. You have tell me your fears. Say it to me. My biggest fear, genuinely, is that Hendo won't work out as captain. I might go into himself a little bit in terms of disappear for all the... Yeah, show. Off the form scale of it. That's a worthy for me. But I'm not going to say any of the new boys. I'm going to just blindly, stupidly, hope they'll all be brilliant. I'm so excited about Hendison. He seemed to have his bollocks out in pre-season. He had the Rabona passes. They're not mega-conscious. Listen, don't get me out. I'm ready to go massively higher than most people. But that would be a terrible disappointment for me. It's a fear. You mentioned fear. It's not that it's going to happen. You're just worried about it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think Daniel Storage's fitness is going to be the biggest disappointment of the season. Yeah. That's a shout as well. I don't think it's going to be as disappointing as last season. I don't know. I think some players are just fucking coursed when it comes to injuries. And they're still... I still love to fill it. I want the same. I want the same at the 2014-14 level. And I'm so looking forward. You're hearing that he's stronger than he has been. You know, this is sort of a melt. And when he comes back, he'd be better than he ever was. And his pace is there. And all this type of stuff it is. And he's just going, "Yeah, come on, come on, come on." I remember last year. And you could see that he wasn't right when he came back. Yeah. And the fucking was just the life of me driving down and going, "Jesus, we're fucking over here." I think that kills a lot of people's hope. But the ideal situation is that Bantech is hammering goals in. And your man can take his time coming up. But do you know where that storage comes back as a plus-rabbit? As a plus-rabbit? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I remember Jarrah that like two, three seasons where he just couldn't, like, grind injury after grind injury. And then somebody went and got a fix that actually came back. I'm hoping that he's not just fit, as in, recovered from an injury, but they've sorted out the root core. Fixed. Yeah. 'Cause a fully fit storage. One of our soins is going to be absolute dog shit. No, half of them are going to be. No, half aren't going to walk out. Well, if you have to roll the dice, who would you go for? I think Klein. Really? Yeah. I'd be worried about that. I've seen a few things in pre-season. But then again, like it's pre-season. So I don't want to say that that's how it's going to land, right? But I just think, I've seen a couple of things where he was the wrong side of players all the time. And I'm there going to be stuff. You know, you don't get punished in pre-season. Maybe it's just getting up to speed in the hole. I'm hoping that the recovery pace is good enough to get him out of those situations. But I don't want to say that he's going to be. Do you know that way? Of the sayings, I think. Origi is probably the one that worries me the most. He looks the least polished in terms of... But I think he could be a very good player. I think his movement is very good. I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to write them off, but like... It's fucking moving. It's basic stuff. Do you know what I mean? There's like some basic stuff that hopefully we can work on and bring out of him. He's definitely got a lot of raw attributes, but there's some basic stuff. He basically looks exactly the way we thought he would. He looks like a player that could go either way. Which is like you. Which is what we were taught. It also proves that we were right not to bring him back when everyone was having a fucking heart attack. Yeah, just bring Origi back. It's like, no, he's not ready. I have a couple of mild fears for the season. First one, like Joe's a marinio probably won't fall off a room for Anthony Bay. I'm just like that. That is worth it. Secondly, I'm gonna go with the big one. The obvious one. I'm worried about Ben Tekken. Because like 32 million and... Like I've said before as well, I'm not happy with the fact that Ings is like, you know, an Origi like punt. So like, if Ben Tekken doesn't hit the ground runner, we're fairly fucked, I think, up front. So that would be my sort of worry. But let's see. I don't want to fucking keep putting there. But like having a dig at him. But I am. I'll just get that in there. I'm quite worried. I'm quite worried. I'm quite worried. Alright. So some non football ones then. Sweets off Twitter once in a while. Steven Seagal flying Blue Thunder versus John Cloud Van Dan flying air wolf. Who wins? The fucking Blue Thunder every night of week. This comes back to like the conversation last week. I'm aware that air wolf is a helicopter. That's correct. Okay. I don't know what the fuck Blue Thunder is a helicopter as well. Yeah. They're both from shit A.D. Steve. Stupid fuckhead. Stupid fuckhead. Basically. Greatest generation for television ever. The greatest day I gave for TV, according to film. Because my number guy. What the fuck is wrong with you? What the fuck is wrong with you? Change the landscape of the table. That's exactly it. Change the landscape of the table. I want to hear how did it change the landscape. If it wasn't for Magnum PI, it'd be no true detective. No, it wouldn't have happened. Of course. You can see the logical progression from Magnum PI. Up until then it was all trench coats and fucking history blue. Fucking Colombo and all that bollocks. Magnum comes along with his color. There's a Ferrari. There's a bit of drama in it. It was 5-0. 15 years before Magnum PI. No, no, no. It was the same fucking show. No, no, no. Jim Immunity did go around on a Hawaiian shirt to be fair. Yeah, yeah. Hawaiian shorts were in. He had a Ferrari. You know, it was all on those voices in his head. So, it was that sort of, you know, mental problems going on. Then he was having flashbacks to Vietnam. Listen to me. Magnum PI is immense. And he had a tach. So, you're not short. It's not short. It's not short. It's not short. It's not short. Just because you had to watch fucking HDV Kimbo. Fuck! And it was in Welch and it was some fucking Norman Price fucking to your Magnum's voice. Because Irish TV in the '80s was fucking legendary. But it's got to be. Yeah, it's got to be. Fuck. Yeah, bollocks. Hey, we have real and indie ears, mate. I know what I've watched it. Gabriel Born was on air television for condensed. Stick that. What did you have? What did you have? Yeah. I'm going to have to present here and lay down the law. Hey. Blue Thunder and Air Wolf. What are the attributes here? Like, what are the differences? Air Wolf was a clearly superior. Yeah. One was a military helicopter, which was Air Wolf. And Blue Thunder was a police helicopter, which didn't have military capabilities. But this is a blue thunder. Blue Thunder has demons. Stick that. No. So. Stick that could be out, could have a model helicopter and he would win. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Fuck's sake. Shark for that dam. Come on. Shark for that dam be drunk. What cures likes. We'll be doing the splits. Yeah. It's a bit. We'll be messing around that. So Gala just put his hand out the window and do air wolf and that pure shark needle model. He's just going to... She got a pull of pistol on air wolf. No even that. Hi. We've got another one here from Mark Shanley. How he is? Nice to hear you. Hey, Mark. What is your all time favorite WWF finishing move? Oh, fucking wrestling. Who would you like to stick it on? Well, I appreciate this one because you still can do it. You still can do it. So that's like 80s. Yeah. So I actually appreciate all the shit 80s finishing move. So even the notorious Hulk Hogan's leg drop, like that was just... You basically just ran across the yolk, right? And then fell onto a fella and your man was dead. With his leg. Okay. Well, he had to hulk up first. You had to hulk up first. Hulk up. Fucking wrestling. Big boot into the face. Then a leg drop. And then the leg drop. Say something racist. Absolutely fine, someone. The choke slam as well is ridiculous because basically they get the other fella to jump up into the air and land on the back. The best one. And you're trying to pick out which wrestling moves are ridiculous. From the ridiculous part. That's made up of a script that ridiculously accurate. But you think one of the moves is ridiculous. It's slightly more ridiculous. The shitest ones are the best ones because they're just absolutely ridiculous. But if you made what the actual best one was, it was the perfect place by Mr. Perfect. Oh, fuck. What was that? It was kind of a suplex thing where he threw the guy over his shoulder and was arched on his back. Took a lot of time. What was the name? Mr. Mr. Perfect. He was dead. Sounds brilliant. That's the point. Was his name. He's dead. Good on him. Harry said he says if you had to form a WWE, oh he gots for WWE. You know, that's modern day. He's modern day stuff. He's just young pup. Yeah. If you had to go, if you had to form a WWE tag team with a footballer of your choice. What was the ultimate warrior to finish a move? He used to shake the rocks. Yeah. And just jump off the top. So basically, against the ropes, knock them down and then a big splash. Harry's question is the easily answered. Don't worry, Harry. I'll read out your question here again. I can actually fucking hear it. It's mama's circle. You and mama's side. So you want to form with every fucking time and colotore because you always need the funny lads in the tag team. So Colot will do what he is for you to play in the tag team. No, too. You said mama's side. No, you have to be with him. You're in it with him. I'd be, I'd be, I'd be the par barrier. I just fucking stand and go, what I do is I form a tag team with Fabio Barini and then I turn heel on him and I join. I joined Trevor and Zacho. But his movement, we'll get him over. A frenzy hashtag. All right, David Hartree says, does frenzy find that morally repugnant that Harry Kane doesn't use his time war powers for good? Who wouldn't? I mean, that's my biggest disappointment that, you know, I did, didn't say Harry Kane. That's a good shot. That would have been absolutely fucking brilliant. Twenty-five million. There's still time? He could, yeah, he could. And a nice panic by, but like, yeah, well, I mean, he's got psychomanders as powers and all he does is like score, you know, kind of fucking annoyingly shy goals with it. This is all he does. Like, well, I suppose he makes a nice living area. He could rob Bancus and so he could do, he could do worse stuff with it. But yeah, he's been a bit of a bollocks like he could kind of, he could save, he could save people from being murdered with this. You know, like, some fellas, some fellas in an alley, he's about to stab you and suddenly stumble into the slide and he doesn't really know why Harry Kane's behind him, but it's underpants on the other side of a shot, it's got, oh, not today, not up to me with his voice. Yeah, it is, it's a bit strange. Oh, hey, Sean McArville on Twitter says, craft beer, pulled pork and everything, burrito shops. Oh, this is going, this might not go, this might not go, this might go by. What's the next hipster's craze likely to take over? He's calling you a hipster bass and you and your burritos. Yes, I know. I haven't got into the pulled pork bit though. No, I haven't pulled pork in a, pulled pork in a bap, it's fucking over. No, I haven't, I haven't, haven't indulged. Were you? What about craft beer? You're a beer, Wayne Garringer? Yes. Yeah. But I haven't got into, the craft, the craft beer and then the, and then it's just the imported like stuff that you get. I'm not really asking about the beer, you're going for the hipster, the hipster lock these days where you're equipped that you're developing and you try to beer it as well. You, you, you, you push those two things together, you're in dangerous, dangerous hipster. Just have to headband the home today. Thankful. Thankful. Headbands. I don't get the craft beer thing. Like, you know, it's like, I remember comedy routine years ago about like non-alcoholic lager. It's like, it's not like lager is a, is a tasty thing. Yeah. It's like, it's craft beer is the same. Like, why would you eat it? You see, like, wank as your pub is going, mmm, that's nutty. Nice. It's like, oh, you drink it to get drunk, like, who gives a few, wanted to taste as nice as possible? I think, I think it's time sweatbands made to come back. You know on the wrist? Yeah. Because they're very like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're, like, they're beyond boog luck. Okay, they're functional. Yeah. And they are quite attractive. Is that what you're saying? Well, I don't know if you're attractive, but I just think it's the type of thing to code like John. Some of you develop your sweatbands, don't you? I do have sweatbands. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, I do have sweatbands. Not just for running. I have wristbands that I used to wear when I was a tennis wanker. Actually, what I wanted to hear before, didn't you? A wrist, a sweatband. Get the fuck. No, he had sleeveless, um, which was a glove sleeves, you know, where, like a sleeve and a glove all together. Down in a few years. I was the first one. Sleeved in a glove. Yeah. A glove and a sleeve. A glove and a sleeve. A glove and a sleeve. Are sweatbands. Travers already take this off. I did. I actually know. I did have a leather cuff one, so I took, I made a mistake of taking a fall off. I love myself with a glass of wine on fuck you guys and all these cells let her cuff and I was a wanker for months after. That went badly. Yeah. It's also done blazer and zippy jumper, which is, which I thought was a nice combination. Which is a new one. Basically. Yeah, basically. So keep it up. Keep it up. Keep it all in just face. Just focus easily. Because if you want to know what the legend is, he's forever setting the trends here. Is the hipster. Oh, I'm, I'm trying to talk about you. The hipster. The hipster. The hipster is that wanker. Fuck sake. Admin. www.astropark.io. Your day trippers tonight where Dave Thomas, Steven Daley, Phil Casey, Trev Downey, and myself, Dan Roberts. Martin Steinbeck says, did you ever have, did you ever have a false friend accident in public when you want to fight or crap your pants instead? No. No. Fuck. I never had one in public. I think I told you, I'm WhatsApp about five months ago, I had, you know, the runs or whatever. And like, at first, the first one, it happened to be twice. The first one, I didn't know I had the runs. I thought it was just frat. And it's like, is that? It's like, come out. That's it. Yeah. It was like, that was horrific. Then it was like, you know, I'd taken, you know, medicine onto the doctor, and everything seemed to be grand. And I was sitting there playing on the PlayStation. And it just happened again. Like, you know, I had been farting, like, all day, and everything seemed to be OK. Everything seemed to be OK. Everything seemed to be in walking order, and then it just stopped saying to me. But yeah, no, everything wasn't OK. So that's all. So the answer to that is yes. W, w, w, w, dot, I'd man. This podcast is brought to you by Progressive. Are you thinking more about how to tighten up your budget these days? 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