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Okay, we want to have a bit of a discussion around the whole idea of financial fair play, and we are returning to a very early day-tripper guest, Ed Thompson of financialfairplay.co.uk. To get Ed's take on everything surrounding this and the Ferrari about it at the moment, would you mind just laying out for our listeners what the latest developments or proposed developments are? Yeah, okay. As best as I can, a lot of it's still a bit sketchy. A lot of news being three gifts a day, really, they're plucked to me. Well, over the weekend, plucked to me, gave some excuse to French magazine and explained what else was worth the change in financial fair play, so it's a bit sketchy. What he said is that some clubs are unhappy that if they've been taken over, but it's an issue in Eastern Europe and there's an issue in Italy where if clubs get taken over by a new owner, that they're somehow finding it rather difficult to kind of spend money initially and therefore run up a few losses in the early days of the ownership of the club. So it's making some clubs report back to platinum, so it's difficult for us to actually sell the clubs because people don't want to buy in because they know that they're capped on how much they can they can lose and got to try and break even, so that's sort of one issue. So he says he's going to address that and the other thing that looks likely to happen, and this is kind of the big thing really is that there's a restriction at the moment into how much money an owner can, or how an owner can inject funds into a club. So financial fair play works on a kind of break even principle, clubs broadly have to try and break even. And so what the rules say is, up till now is an owner can't put his hand in the pocket, make good any loss that the club's made. You know, we were all familiar with the city concept of Manchester City and Paris-Sanger man who's been running up huge losses and despite that they put the hand in the pocket and make good the losses, they fell financial fair play. And so there's been a number of kind of challenges to that and so it sounds like that rule's going to go when there's all kinds of implications if that actually changes. Just that for our listeners' point of view, I remember you explained to us before, the basic kind of crux of it is that you're led up to five million euros, isn't it? More than earned and that you can spend in every three-year assessment period. And then basically you have this acceptable allowances, sorry, acceptable losses allowance as well of about 25, 25 and a half million euros. So on my right hand there's about 30 million over and above an eight-three-year period, is that correct? Yeah. So it's a really complicated thing. It's the one to stop phone numbers when it gets confusing, but basically what they say is you've got to try and break even, but actually now it's not quite break even, they allow you to lose 30 million pounds maximum over three years, sorry, 30 million euros at maximum over three years. So that's, you know, about 25 million pounds or 80 million pounds each a year over the year. And so you can, you can move that, but you can only kind of go up to that level if the owner is prepared to put some cash into the club and make good any losses that the club have made over that period in excess of five million. So I appreciate you, you're listening to the glazing over there with kind of the decent number information. Basically, you've got to try and break even, but you can go up to 24 million pounds over three years. That's the maximum. And the problem is that that hasn't been proven to be enough, you know, it's eight million pounds a year. And so what's happened is some Italian clubs are saying, well, actually, you know, I think they seem like I'm saying, you know, we'd like to be able to put more in, you know, that there's kind of all, there's a concept out there, isn't there of kind of foreign people coming into football outside of Europe? And I think a lot of clog owners feel that actually this rule that stops the owners checking money and to fund a loss is making it harder to fund the clubs and for them to grow. So I think that will, it's likely to change. The issue that sort of screams at me is that the idea originally I think Platinny's rise was financial doping, wasn't it, that he was trying to avoid or that these rules were supposed to kind of scare us around or make alliances for it, but I mean, who is to say it has to be basically, there may be exceptions, but it has to be a plan that UEFA reckon is plausible. I was reading the Gabriel and Markali article today and he reckons that that's basically the gist. It has to be a plan that you wait for things as possible, but an alarm bell goes off there and my head is like, you know, whose call is that really and, you know, what's informing that decision? Yeah, I mean, it's always gets difficult when you put parameters on it, doesn't it? You can't lose more than X amount of money, you know, all the circumstances are different. You know, you perhaps might, you know, if you're looking at the flexible system, you might want a system where clubs could run up a bit more of a loss when they've got a new owner, you know, potentially. So who knows? Perhaps that might be some kind of nuance around the rules, but I mean, I guess the thing about financial fair play and thing to remember though, is that when it came in in UEFA, first of all, it was all about sustainability and it still is supposed to be all about sustainability. It isn't really all designed to kind of create a level playing field for clubs, it isn't supposed to, you know, help clubs compete with richer clubs. It's all supposed to be about clubs, but now it's just, you know, essentially just break even and balance their books and they didn't want to see clubs succeeding you when they couldn't pay the players wages, when they're racking up huge debts and the clubs will understand what could potentially go into into administration so that you are still very, very conscious of those kind of sustainability issues and changes that they're looking to make don't impact on those necessarily, you know, if they could be more flexible in your ownership cash coming in, if potentially they could be, could allow the thresholds to be bigger, then potentially, you know, it still shouldn't keep in mind from the line of concept of, you know, a club collapsing altogether. But what's really interesting is this, this rule that stops the owners injecting cash into a club to kind of make good any losses, that's, you know, we've seen a Paris-French money, we've seen it with Man City and this has been contested and it's got, there's a court case going on at the moment and the rationale for contesting it is to say, why should it matter if the Manchester Fair play is all about sustainability, why should it matter that the owners of the club are for many losses, the club's debts aren't growing, they're just putting the hand in the pocket and, you know, Paris-French Man and Manchester City aren't in any danger of collapsing them falling over as, you know, they're not going to go out of business, are they? So that's the kind of argument to say, actually, that it should be allowed, that they should be allowed to dip the cash in and it seems like there's also kind of a few, some legal aspects to this as well, you know, the European Commission's very keen to support financial fair play when it's all about sustainability, but now Paris-French Man and Manchester, effectively through this court that's going to want arguing, arguing that, you know, by them not being able to inject cash, it isn't nothing to do with sustainability, so I think you're being commissioner coming in through pressure there, so I think that could well change, but, sorry, I'm drowning on about this, but the concept, it's all very well for, you know, wealthy benefactors to say, well, it doesn't matter, it shouldn't affect as if we put our hands in the pocket, but actually it does, and this is why you have outlined the concept in the first place, because what they said was, and what they recognised was that if clubs were not big losses and the only just chucks the hands in the pocket, then what happens is then it drives up the price of players in the transfer market and also drives up the price of player wages, and then once that starts to happen, it starts to happen for all, because the spiral of escalation, which then makes everybody, you know, get a snowy away, you know, lots of clubs in the league and entering European competition start reporting, loss is again. I think we've started to see a situation improving in England anyway, you know, as there's an increased TV deal, as it started to make it so that clubs are now, most clubs are now starting to report a profit, and that is a change, and, you know, a lot of that is due to the financial fair play, and the concept that started off in life, and then it's been grafted onto the Premier League, with the Premier League's own rules. The only thing is, though, at the top end, basically, status quo remains, doesn't it, because when you have this thing about the kind of limitless outlay that you're allowed for academy and for infrastructure, stadium infrastructure, it basically does leave a situation where the really wealthy clubs can start pushing money into the club like that anyway, and I'm supposed to, I'm taking it from a selfish point of view, like this obviously a Liverpool-based show, and we're thinking about it, like, from our chance of breaking into, you know, the upper echelons, or having that kind of equality or a level playing field that, you know, that in theory, it's supposed to bring, I know, for example, John Henry's been quite downbeat about any potential changes, or even the current situation about that, like, unlimited outlay, because it means very rich people, rich clubs can separate themselves out another little bit, doesn't it? I think it does, and I think it just goes back to this concept, doesn't it, this concept of what financial fair plays that in the first place, you know, and you actually would still say it's about inability, they'd never intend a bit to make it a level playing field, and I think what's happened is a lot of people would see it as something that should make it a more level playing field, and the owners of Liverpool, you know, when they bought the club, they came out and said that one of the reasons that they bought it was because of financial fair play, I think they saw a scenario where the clubs would be more, would be breaking even more, they wouldn't have to chop those up, put their hands in the pocket to fund it, and where, you know, the club would have a chance of, you know, having some success, but I think what we've seen is, you know, certainly the growth of Manchester City has really started to change things, they're able, even with the current financial fair play rules, you know, they can play keeping by writing all kinds of commercial deals with Abu Dhabi companies that are kind of broadly influenced by the owner of the club, you know, actually, with the current rules, you know, Paris-Hanshman and Man City made them put it in the past, but actually they found a way around it, they just write commercial deals now, you know, you could look at them into all of their suspicious and a bit inflated, but the rules struggle to kind of adjust them downwards and to apply a fair value, because there's so many of them, each one in isolation might look broadly okay at the top end of what might be reasonable, but when I put them in up, you know, together, there's nothing you can do with me, so hence the city and the history of the will pass financial fair play and kind of get round rules, it kind of makes it much more difficult over the other clubs, and in any club that isn't kind of effectively controlled by a state and doesn't have the ability to kind of make up what it can actually do, it really, really starts to struggle by comparison, and I think it's, you know, potentially, but I have to see what the rules do, but if they really love the owners to inject the cash just to fund the loss, you know, and then sitting in price for financial management, the future is there as really I think. >> Hey, it's Phil, listen, just one question I have in the sort of leads on from there, does this actually bring a bit more fairness into fair play in terms of that if somebody rich comes into any club in Europe, potentially they can now grow that club quicker than they would have been able to under the financial fair play rules that exist at the moment? >> I think we haven't announced exactly what's going to happen yet, but it sounds like that is, is the intention of it. So yeah, so you can say, well, that's great, you know, you could have a club's like Everton, you know, in theory, Southampton, you know, dining at the top table, but I don't know, I don't know whether that's actually a hugely likely scenario, and whether really the problem that affects football today is a dearth of wealthy benefactor owners who aren't able to fund huge losses in the club, you know, there's a few, but it's not a situation that's hugely prevalent other than a few, you know, stand out incidents. >> Like my hugely conspiratorial mind just thinks like Platonian is linked to Italy and Italy's troubles with recent times in terms of money in the whole lot. If they had rich owners, and there is a few rich owners out the corner, Italian football can now prop up to the old teams that that have been struggling in Europe, and obviously he has his connections to PSG, not that I'm insinuating hunting there, it just seems very, very coincidental that all of a sudden that this sort of opens it up to PSG to really push on and become a superpower in Europe. >> Yes, I mean, I think that's why you've got to bear in your mind, you know, the way it works is that, you know, you represent clubs across Europe, and you know, these European clubs are starting to grumble, you've got Italy, Italian clubs starting to grumble about it, you've got strong representation in France. So, you know, I think that that represents, that's quite a few football authorities there, who are kind of all chipping away, and it doesn't take many of those to start exerting some real pressure. I mean, of course, if one ever happens, whatever gets agreed, and it, you know, you do wonder it could be a bit of a dog's dinner, but whatever gets agreed is going to have to be voted in by the European club, so that's the way it works, the European club session is going to have to vote in the rules. And there is another kind of interesting angle to this, which hasn't kind of been picked up yet, which is the impact on the Premier League, because, you know, a few years after financial fair play came in Europe, the Premier League introduced its own financial fair play rules or spending constraint rules. And actually, it's quite interesting to wonder what's going to happen there, because there's two aspects of these Premier League rules, and they're not kind of widely known because we don't generally talk about them, but there's two aspects. And one that says that a club can't make huge losses. It's a bit like the way it works in Europe, in Europe competitions, except rather than saying you can make more losses than 24 million over three years, you can't lose in the Premier League, you can't lose more than 105 million over three years, which is huge, huge figures, and actually the TV deals are so big that no clubs coming anywhere near making that kind of loss. So that's one angle, but the other one, which is really interesting, and which has gone under a report, is that there's a kind of salary capital, a wage increase cap that exists in the Premier League. So the current rules say that no club can increase their spending on wages by more than four million pounds a year each season, except they can go over this four million pounds if they write corresponding commercial income. So I just listened to you there. It's fascinating stuff, and we really appreciate the insight again, giving us a bit of a slant on things. So thanks very much for your time. Okay, look, we're going to get a bit of a reaction to Liverpool One Crystal Palace three, and have a look forward to Stoke versus Liverpool. But we are not going to do detailed review previews this week because that would just be wrong on so many levels. So we're going to start off with a topic that's very, very current, and that's Mr Raheem Sterling and the money stories that are circulating about him. So the way I thought we'd do this is I've got some questions in from listeners, and I'm just going to go around the table and get your responses to them. Now there will be cross over in them, so feel free to just give a short answer if you feel it's already been said. So like I said earlier, I'm not allowed to be joined by Chris here. So Chris, I'm going to start with you if that's okay with you. And there's a question in from Jed, the red, and Jed's wondering, would you be more concerned if Sterling or if I were leaving? More concerned of Sterling and I were leaving. Yeah. I've been concerned they were both leaving. Yeah, well, fair enough. Yeah. At the moment, as things stand, yeah, I've been more concerned of Sterling was leaving. Okay. He's just offered more to us as a player of the last couple of years. I know people are comparing him and I, but there's this incredible school of thought that people are going, oh, you know, it's fine if Sterling goes because we got I but he's going to be better. But so far, I don't see the evidence for that. Yeah, you're not buying that. Not especially now. What about what about this idea of what's Sterling that there is so much basically potential? Clearly, we've seen some excellence, but there's still it is still quite a raw count in many ways. I mean, is there any consolation to be to be gleaned from that, do you think that that perhaps, you know, maybe will go on to be great? Maybe won't. What do you think? The gamble is a gamble. I mean, if you if you sell him now, you know, and he goes on to say Chelsea or sitting and he becomes what I think he can become, which is a world-class player. We'll be kicking ourselves in four or five, six years time. I think he's astonishing. You look at his stats. He's 20 years old and he's he's gone off the board the last few months and I absolutely I can absolutely understand why because, you know, his head's not quite with it. But if you look at his stats for a 20 year old in this league to be entrusted with with the responsibility he has within our team, it's extraordinary. He's a Harris breath, but I've been our best player, our talisman almost and that's I think we should just try and keep trying to do a little bit of what we got here. I think that's fair enough. Andy, there is a good lot of revisionism going on about Sterling because it seems as if he might be going so people are trying to console themselves a little bit. Luke here is saying that look, you know, personally, I don't think he deserves anything over what Phil Coutinho earns. Holding a clump to Ransom is a no-no and he's a good future, but he will will he be a starter and other big clubs? Time will tell. How would you react to that? But what about the risk inherent for Sterling himself and going somewhere like Chelsea or Arsenal? Well, I could be a bit of boys here, but I think he's at the best club he could possibly be at the moment. You know, are we the fifth or fourth best team in England at the moment? I don't think he gets in to the Chelsea team. I don't think he really gets in to the air. Well, he gets in, but he doesn't get in every week with us. He's our top player. So he's not going to evaluate the same opportunities. And he's not going to evaluate the same looking after. He's got, I mean, he's still treated as one of our kids, you know, and he's got his little break off that you make it. I mean, the cluber don't have done everything for him, you know, and I don't know whether he get that at another club. It'd be a sinker kind of swaying thing with him. So for now, I think he should be so in another contract. And I think for all parties, him leaving and what's happened is a bad thing. I think he's been terribly badly advised. And it's put Liverpool in a position now where they've gone to the side, where they're going to max them out now and get as much as they can. They somewhere are they're going to hang on and do the kind of Suarez job. All you think down that with like we did with Suarez is going to be impossible. Yeah, because this is an English player, the media will swarm around, you know, he's a Liverpool start show. And he's shown any sort of promise, like, you know, they love that, you know, and they'll be attacking it. Not like Suarez was a different way. So I think we should be here. I think it's going to be a good thing for him to stay, a good thing for us to keep and to kind of find a sort of a compromise now. But I think it might even be beyond that at this stage. It could be gone. It should have been paid 150 grand a week. It's the gone rate. It's the gone right here. You know, when you're top players, it should have been just done like that. I don't I think it's about money. I think it's I think he feels like the club of kind of token for granted or they don't respect him. But the lack of respect he's shown for the club is just disgraceful, you know, for 20 year old, disgraceful. And I mean, you know, you got back to things like the the the point you were smoking and the the laughing gas and all that. It's just a lot of bollocks, like, you know, you can't be doing that. You just cannot be doing that at 20 years old at a club. And there, it was only pointed out to me, I didn't know what to suppose. This is a small thing, but just like, I look at small things and think they kind of tell a story. The players are walking around after the game and Sunday and, you know, all the players are the kids and kind of check, like his kids are running off like they're all over the shop. You had to go and get the guys a couple of times. I mean, that to me, it's just like, it might be a small thing. And the people listening now, they might be thinking, I'll go fuck yourself. And you like, maybe they are. They cannot do it. But it's just, it's all about respect. We're in a jersey, like if they were in the military, wearing a uniform, or you're wearing, you know, you just don't, you'd behave to the best you're building. And getting your agent are agreeing that your age of rings up stories parts and it was late and night and just fucking spouts all this shit. It's just beyond belief. It's not okay. Like, you need to be just fucking... But you know, you know, tonight, tonight, as we're recording this, they're doing the players of the player of the year awards. And Sterling won young player of the year and he was heckled and he was also booed by the fans at the Echo Arena, right? Yeah. And he was also people just shouting, "Are you staying? Are you staying?" And then suppose he was the ex-players also saying, "You should stay." Like, you know, we're torn in this into a circus at the same time. Like, the fans are as much responsible in terms of saying, if it's not. No, no, no. Andy, listen, listen to me. We are now because it's gone mad. This is what I'm saying. We better have just not, like, we better have saying nothing. How do you know? How do you say nothing to that? Well, like, it's a fucking award to do. What's the point? What is the point in heckling a failure for picking up an award for being the young player of the year? No. Like, if there was no phone call made to Skoy Sports and national broadcast the last night, there's none of this happens. Well, actually, do you know what I mean? My take on it was sitting there surrounded by people in the ground on Saturday. Every time he failed to reach a ball that was maybe within his reach or had a bad touch or whatever, all he could hear around you was 100,000 fuck off. Yeah. You know, seriously, the people are obsessed with the money. People are, I know you're saying it's about money, but the other people are obsessed with money. It's driving the whole conversation genuinely is. I know, but look, this is, this is going to happen regardless, even at United, Rooney did something almost identical to what's going on here, wanting to leave transfer requests the whole lot, right? And he stayed. The fans went apeshit over Rooney. You know, I remember when Gerard was talking about going to Chelsea, the fans were going apeshit over over Gerard leaving, right? And you know, that's not helping here is he hasn't helped himself. And I think as well, and it's one of the big things around this is that thing around the gas, harmless and not harmless, whatever. Right? But that is not going to make him look attractive to prospective buyers. So if I'm going into, if I'm going to negotiate where he may have had the likes of Boi Munich, and maybe Barcelona, Ram and Joe look at him right, they're going to look at, look at him now and say, you know what, I'm not sure about, I'm not sure about this kid. I'm not sure if he has the right attitude. So even from an asset point of view. They can afford him in a few years when they discover exactly what he's about. Yeah. Ringing, getting his A or whoever, you know, was responsible for doing that, you know, Leuranoi, that's just like, it's just madness. So, can you imagine, really, like, really handed in a transfer request grant, Gerard handed in a transfer, they didn't ring Royce Barnes, Niels, to tip them off that I'm Freudi. Oh, I'm kind of in a transfer request. That doesn't make any sense. It's so stupid. But there's the same fellow who's been advised to go on to be on BBC. Yeah. And deal with an interview saying that, you know, in the lead up to the Arsenal game, which was massive, you know, there was massive game and it, and that happens. Well, that's the advice argument again. It's a good one. Chris, can I give you, go and run this past yourself on Paul. The quote here from an article by Tony Barret today, which is interesting. It kind of puts a different slant on things. It's the kind of, well, the club has exactly covered themselves in glory here, too. What do you think about that? Basically, he goes on about, look, we've got no Champions League. We've had one trophy, it has a League Cup in nine seasons, three title challenges since '91, a transfer policy that prioritizes the future over the present, and an inability to compete for top four players. So basically Liverpool are failing the club, and he goes on then to say, thus far, the strongest argument delivered but have been able to muster in their attempts to convince Sterling to remain in the club is that it's the best place for his development. Now, we've heard Andy put down, it's a good point, but Barret's taken it is that, look, it's actually kind of a weak argument because all you're saying is, like, you know, that's all we've got for you, kid. What's your take on that, Chris? I think the fault large lies with Sterling here. Oh, more likely his agent. I think he's been, oh my god, he's been just badly advised. I've just had to be watching that Monday Night Football thing last night that Cara would just like to have an hour alone with 80 warts, and then we wouldn't have any problems anymore. The club came within two points last year of winning the title. We had a bad season this year. If that's a flip, I don't know that remains to be seen, but I would hope and pray that our players would have more faith and more loyalty in the club than, you know, just to run for the exit the second we finished fifth. But yeah, I think there's also a sense of complacency at the club, and there has been, whether it's Ian Air or or whomever, just a sense that, yeah, we brought you up, kid, we gave you a chance, we made you a star, we'll give you a contract on our terms, and you will sign it on our terms, and they were surprised when he turned it down. And I think that that took them by surprise, and they have never really covered themselves in glory with contract negotiations going all the way back to that Farago with Stevie. I know it was different people years ago, but look how close we came to losing Stevie G. Yeah, I mean 2005. Yeah, there is a pattern there for sure. It's absolutely a pattern, just a pattern of incompetent to the highest level, and I think it's coming back to bite us in the ass with this one. In terms of the club not really delivering the season, Sterling has to take some of the blame for that as well. I saw some of the day, I think it might have been Kara as well, actually. I'm on the football, he was basically saying that in the semi-final against Fither, everyone's dunked the place out, he's dunked the place out, but... Yeah, that's right, actually, yeah, that was very much part of his argument, wasn't it? Like, you know, they've got to show up too. Absolutely, how do you play to his potential? How do you play in the last three months with the deferve and necessity he had in the first three, four months of the season, and when he was looking really sharp and lively and it's moving, it's good, and he needs to work in his finishing obviously, but how do you play with that conviction? I don't think we'd be talking about finishing fifth, or whether we'd be talking necessarily about an FA Cup final, we're asked to fill it, we're playing Arsenal, it could have been us, it could have been us the top four, and now we'd think we'd be having these conversations at all. You know, one of the things that gets to me, the one thing that I really hold at the club at this moment in time is that this isn't just an isolated situation where it just happens to be Raheem Sterling's contract that has run down. Like, we were in such a strong position last season to toy down the young players that we wanted to toy down to longer contracts, you know, have them finished second. Now, the carrot was there that this is a club that's gone places, here's the Champions League. If we wanted, if we want to, like, they were never in a stronger position than to put contracts on the table to these young players with this thing behind and say, we are gone somewhere, and if you want to be part of it, sign a new long-term contract for ourselves. And for whatever reason, the club thought it was a good idea to go almost another season or only begin negotiations halfway through this season. Now, there's nothing, nothing in football that's guaranteed. You know, the, you know, Chelsea have finished out the top four in the last five years. You're not even finished outside the top four in the last five years. You know, City have only come into the top four in the last five years. There is nothing guaranteed in football. Apart from Arsenal, we'll finish in the top four. Well, well, we'll finish in the top four and not win the title. But, you know, there is nothing guaranteed. And when you get into it as a club, from the club's perspective, when they get into it, they're a strong bargaining point to not leverage themselves at that point to its maximum effect, toy down Coutinho, toy down Sterling at that stage, toy down Oi, toy down Henderson, before the season kicks off, then you've got the question who, and this is not a, this is not a. These are lads that have still got three years running on the contract, though. But you stick your troll with the voting, but your troll got a new contract the year before that, probably. Well, they didn't, because this is the problem with Sterling's, that he saw in the four year contract with whenever he tore in pro. What I'm saying is that Coutinho's one, we could have two and a half years to go, because he's got, he would have had two years left at the end of this season. So, and we've got to get in, that has to be a conscious decision made, that when you're in a, in the strongest bargaining point that you are, that that's when you're in an outside concept. Especially, I don't think you can say, I don't think you can really level that at the club, because I don't think anyone, like, we didn't foresee, like, the Rs falling over, so I was like, to this extent, you know, I don't think. But to not open negotiations, I need them. Yeah, but they did, before they got to, you know, the kind of, like, the two-year mark is usually where you're deciding, right, if he won't sign now, then we, like, we have to consider selling them. So, like, Sterling has like two and a half years left in his contract. So, I don't, I don't see, like, a big deal that we did leave. I don't think the club kind of taught, like, we could drop down the fucking fifth or sixth here. So, I don't have too much of a problem. I don't know what you can, I don't know what you should be now, when players down for, like, you would have been extending contracts there, six years, five or something like that. How two years on a three years left to have got five, you're not in a weak position. I'm just saying, we were in a really strong bargaining position, and we let that slip, because we expected to be back in the top four again this year. It is a bit of a win, so yeah, I think very enough, like, boy, I think, like, you can't make that your sort of thing from now on. Like, let's, let's just negotiate contracts, three or four years before there. The word is that the, the model may well be under, if you've got your players, you have to be prepared to negotiate early as opposed to late, because if they're in any way, shape or form, gonna become top players, and you're banking on them becoming top, top players, that if they get to 2021, but here's the thing. Well, I don't know, does it make any sense? Why would you just have fellas, so in a 10 year contract? Well, no, but here's the thing. Are you, are you banking on them becoming top players, so that they'll turn into very, very, very, very good assets? That's the worry about the plan that I think everyone secretly has, is that like, what's the goal here? Is the goal to develop these wonderful players that we can bring through and keep on lowish money for as long as we can, or is it to bring them through, so we can make a problem? Well, I don't think so. We haven't really seen everyone, so that. Like, he's only 20, like, and where, like, what is he, he's shown together maybe two half seasons of form, like, and we're making them, you know, absolutely joined there, and if, like, if he accepts the contracts, we're offering them, so I don't think it is a point of, you know, trying to keep them on low money, so we can eventually sell them. I think they are making an effort to kind of keep them, and I think it's, I think it's bollocks really, that people are kind of questioning the club's attitude, as if it's, you know, we're almost bringing it on ourselves, that, which, like, that is even. I think, sorry, I think the club is, you know, is to blame, to some extent, I mean, the club's policy towards Sterling is going to be at the moment, if he doesn't accept the offer, if he doesn't accept the contract, the 100 grand a week that they've offered him, reputedly, of course, that they're going to just let him wipe his contract down over two years, and just, you know, and watch him tie up the myth wages. I mean, I've seen so many stories going, well, if he'd signed that deal back in November, he'd have earned so, so much, and he's actually lost out on almost, you know, on a couple million already, and lost wages, as if that's not going to demoralize him, and put him on the sidelines, and, you know, think about Louis Suarez was that even when he was, you know, wanting to go to Arsenal, and trying to agitate, and trying to engineer a move, and, you know, Henry, and the rest of the owners, and Brandon sat him down and went right, no, you're going to stay with us, we're going to put you in reserves, we're going to teach you a lesson. Suarez is a born competitor, he could not allow himself to not play football, and to not give his all, and I don't think that Raheem Sterling is that player, I think if you demoralize him over the period of two years, you're going to get nothing from him. Well, I said the start, it was a different thing, and we need to make a compromise, that there's no sense in doing, as you say, Chris, and just making them unhappy, there's no sense in that, but then there's no sense in bound down to it, you can't set the prison, instead the club need to look like the big boys here, the club need to make a stance, and although it's not ideal, none of this is ideal, it fell as age and gone, and ringing the national broadcaster, at the 12 o'clock at night, like, it's not ideal, you know what I mean? So the club have to act on that, and there's no real great solution, the biggest, the best solution here is if they can come to a compromise, and just pay him halfway between, well, he wants somewhere, we want to pay him, and just move on, and let's be happy about it, and then actively look for a boy, because this fell is going to be trouble later on. I think you might be right, I think you might be right, I think you might be right now, as much as I love Raheem Stearland, I hate the same girl, right? I think if we get an offer of $25 million in the summer, we'll deal. Okay, well, let's try and save the deal, because that's a huge amount of money for a 20-year-old, with huge potential, but it's a huge amount of money. Fair enough, well, let's try and segue over this a little bit, we've got a couple of questions leading kind of tangentially from Craig Holden's wondering, with the likes of Coutinho, L'Alanna, Markovitch, Aib Tashira, Tashira, who's just announced as the club's academy player of the year, which is impressive, given that he's been on loan, and he's older than both Coutinho and Stearland, but however, Craig's asking if we actually really need to replace him, and then we've got another one from Aditya, I hope I've got that right, who's saying, "Who would you build your team around for the next three to five years?" Like, which of the players that we've got there in situ or is there anyone that you'd like to see brought in? So, can we move on a little bit from there, Paul, any thoughts on that? Coutinho is the only player, he's the only player that we have at the moment that you could build around, other than that, you're looking at new signings. Like, Aib, I agree that this kind of attitude of Stearland golf, he wants, because we vibe is ridiculous, so he vibe hasn't scored a goal for us yet, he's played half a season first, so it's absolutely ridiculous. So, like, Stearland, a lot of it is potential, what he has, boy, he is someone that you're on, yeah. Well, if he looks like he will be a cracking player, you can't just say, like, "Oh, we've got another young player, like, there's no way you can do that." Um, yeah, like, other than Coutinho, I think you're looking at new signings, Lilana, no, not a chance, Markovic showed, like, he showed a couple of dreams, but, you know what? Clashes. - I don't feel much. - I don't feel much. - Vaches. (laughing) - Vaches, names on that. - Vaches. - Vaches. - Vaches. - Vaches. (laughing) - Oh, Jake. Yeah, he's like- - Well, he's the good in the right way. (laughing) - Yeah. - He only has all potential. Like, yeah, you're not, you wouldn't go into next season going, oh, well, Markovich is obviously gonna explode and play brilliant this season. Like, it'd be madness. So you're like, yeah, you're looking at but in a few kind of stars up front. - Yeah. - If we do lose there. - Well, Chris, I know I put you in the shop, in the happy shop. With loads of money. And you can do what you want. Matt Roberts is saying, you're only allowed to sign one player here, though, however, in the summer. So which position would it be? - So you can't do it, you can only play one. - Yeah, you can go in, you can spend as much bloody money as you want, but can I be on one player? Who would you go for, Chris? (laughing) No pressure, fella. - Price, almighty. Well, we're talking daphnis. Then, yes, I'm pricing a messie away from Barcelona. - Yeah, and if we're talking slightly more attainable, what do you think? - More attainable stuff. I mean, I think we need, we need someone in midfield, I think. We need reinforcements. And I've seen Fidel linked recently. - That would be nice. - People like that would be nice. We'd be like, come and leave the Italian champions. Come and leave the people who lead the team that might win the champions league and come to us, we've got Europa League, it's fun. (laughing) That's the sort of, that's the caliber of player we need to be going for, but we have in the hope and hell of a lot, I think, sadly. But yeah, I'd break the bank in those guys. And you know what? I throw an extra 90 million towards Barcelona as well. I go, Lewis, come home mate, come home. - Yeah, I think that might be a popular shadow, right? - It's not working out for you over there. - Yeah, yeah. - Getting to your champions league foil win the leagues. - It's champions league messing. - If it's down to one player, I'd probably throw it all in. Like I said, and just 'cause you know, K-look's kind of reliable. Like, yeah, you throw them in, you'd score balls for you. Like, you know, not someone like Marco Vicu, you're kind of wondering, is he gone, or is he not? - So not Ben Teque is what you're saying. - Basically, yeah. (laughing) - You're not talking about his jerseys, but not Ben Teque. - Not Ben Teque is in the back. - Last letters. (laughing) - I'd go after, I think we've, I think when we were linked to a human song, I definitely would start going, yeah, I could see that walking. I could see where he fits in, type of player fits the profile, scores a lot of goals, can play as a wide forward, can also play centrally. You've got a tour coming up to Asia as well, which would be huge for Jersey sales, and there's all that to throw in, and... - I can't believe you've just thrown that in. - This is a puzzle, but Jesus Christ. - Well, that's what they look at, especially when you look at FFP and stuff like that, more money, the club can generate the better, the more it raises its profile, the better, the more it matches the concern on foreign TV rights, the better. - Genuinely, these things count now, if we have to go on... - What's Parchie's song up today, is this? - Yeah. (laughing) - It's probably co-confident in something. - But no, I, but I just think he's the right profile, is he a young player, scores goals, can play as the central forward, or can play as a wide forward, and probably would cost us less than 30 million quid, which is less than bent taking. - Less than bent taking. Ali, do you want to play our show, or will I move you on with another question? - Well, I wish there was a striker out there that was obtainable, but you just knew it's what's got goals, 'cause that's where we need it. It all seems to be about these wide attacking players. - Would you have Higuain if I sent them over your way? - Again, it sounds great, you get the fans all pumped up, but what do you really do it? - Yeah. - You know, it's such a gambly. - He's just ready to go to season on them. - Yeah. - And he's done a consistent. - And we probably were only a 20 goal man of season. - From a better spot being far, top four, this season. - And he walks his arse off at the pitch. - So I don't know, like, there's a lot of these wide players out there very similar, like, you know, you just go after some. - It's gold scores. Well, if you're gonna sign attackers, - You have to be gold scores. We can't afford to sign attacking players who are gonna make the name and assists, because we don't have anybody to finish those assists. - Would you get Pedro? He doesn't get a look in anymore. - Nah, I'm not a huge fan of Pedro. I'll be totally honest with you. - I'm a fan already, but I just wonder what he asked with us, 'cause he will be a main man, and that would be a huge teleporter. - I mean, he's just knocking a look in there. - Okay, well, let's change the coming in. - We've covered his arse, we will be talking about this one. - We've been tacking on our arse, be the crack. - Be the great crack. Okay, let's go question per person for a while. So, next one up, Paul is you, and the question from Juho is, "Will we win a league before Arsenal won a Champions League?" (laughing) - Yeah, let's say so. They never win in the Champions League. Now, the vanger is going to live for the next 100 years, it's like 89 at the Arsenal. He's not winning a Champions League. - It's just never happened before. - Nah, I don't think they are, no. - Okay, all right. - I don't fuck knows, and we win in the league. I think we win the Champions League anyway. - Andy Michael Freeman wants to know, "Given his talent, potential speed strength, should we be looking to develop?" I thought we mentioned earlier on Jordan, now you've been to a striker, any sense in that? - Um, well, he's an hourly, there's a lot of excitement around, though, but I just haven't really bought into it, um... (laughing) - Hey. (laughing) - 'Cause you have to, like, it's all about, for all over the moment, it's all about this dream of what he can become. Not so much what he's actually produced. How do you say you're going to develop a fella who's not banging in goals into a striker? He'd want to play in the front forest, and then say, "How are we pressing?" And then say, "Hi, hang on, there's something to work on here, so no." No, I'm getting ready. (laughing) - Something else. - It's okay, we got there. (laughing) Next one is from Shane. Chris, Shane is one of the things Stevie would make a good manager, based on what we've seen in his actual playing career today. (laughing) - Uh, no. - You don't, yeah, I think he might, that might be a loaded question, or just to elaborate a little bit on Moila. - I think he's too deep a thinker, weird enough. I think he would be tortured by being a manager. You know, just, you watch him try and answer a question in the interview, his brow furrows, and he feels like he's just, it's like, it's like Cara, a Monday night football, every time he gets asked a question, there's like a 10 second pause. - Yeah. - While his brain works into gear. - Yeah, yeah. - I think Stevie's a bit like that. I don't know, I'd love him to be a great manager, I'd love him to, you know, take over from Brendan in 10 years time, whenever we won the, you know, the Champions League for the eighth time, and, you know, we're bored of winning titles, and he just comes up, you know, organically through the club, but I don't know, I just can't see it somehow. I just, there's something about him, I don't think that's managerial, material. Also, and if I can cheekily leap onto the I've thing, I don't think I should be the player, we should be grooming to play out front. I think it should be Deja and Lava, and just get him as far as the fuck. (laughing) - What we can. - I think you might be honest with something there, I don't, Phil's always wanted to score it as a strike. - Scared as a striker is a fucking solution. There's no point in trying to benteke when we have Scared on the fucking defense. - Yeah. - 'Cause he offers the same. - He offers exactly the same. - And he has the same instant instincts in the box. - Yeah. - Okay, well for you Phil. - Okay, just on the Gerard show. - Okay. - For manager. - Go on. - Now that is my worst nightmare. It's like, it's like-- - Which kind of has his assistance. - Yeah, this is like the Shearer show as well. So remember when Shearer went to Newcastle? That torn out brilliant. Very rarely do really great players torn into really great managers. Because when they play the game, they play it differently to say average players. And that's why so many average players make good managers because they've had to learn how to play the game. They've had to learn all about tactics and all just to play at the level they play that. Whereas great players are so good and are so far ahead of the players around them. They don't necessarily need to understand tactics or how shaping all works because they just fit into it and they see the game at a different pace to everything else. I though because he can see he's so opinionated and so outspoken, right? I think he'd actually probably make a good number two in that he wouldn't be a yes man to the manager. So if the manager has an idea or something, he wouldn't be afraid to fucking say, "No, that's a stupid idea." And I think that's so important in a number two. I think a number two has to be able to challenge the, be able to challenge the manager. - Are these slow digs a column, Pasco? No, big call Pasco. Is that what you're getting out of here? - Actually, we should be just getting rid of Pasco. We're not getting rid of Pasco. (laughing) Realistically, realistically, it's just amazing. (laughing) That combination. Whatever about Rogers being a virtually unknown, like column Pasco just needs to be banned. - Is it true that he was a postman? - I don't, listen, I've seen that video. I'm not buying into this column. - I don't know. - I doubt the bullet, maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. We need a recognizable assistant. That's... - Well, you wouldn't miss Pasco on fairness. - No. - So you mean a high profile guy? I don't know if it was saying that Stevie could be. - Stevie, the whole notion of Stevie being manager, like he'd be a very young manager at the moment. The one young manager that you know of at the moment now has kind of gave what they're playing career when they're 22 with a bad injury, whatever. So they're being surrounded in the idea of management and coaching for a long, long time. Well, Jared's only started to do his badges. He'd want Gerard to head off and prove himself as a manager. Prove himself as a coach or prove himself as an assistant before he'd even remotely consider it. We're just reckless bringing in Gerard to save the club. - You don't... - The fuck would be the point. - He don't want Stevie to tarnish his reputation. You know, that's what happened to Sunas when he came in. And, you know, he's a livable great. But most people now associate him with the guy who kind of screwed it up. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Kenny was already a once-off, like, I mean, I don't know whether there's been a player manager to win so much, win a double and all that. - Don't know, right? - That's just, that's just, like-- - Apart from actual Roy's the Roy's the Roy's the role. - And years ago, we had player managers. Now, it's way more special. Footballers may have done. - Yeah. - Nah. - Okay, all right, let's-- - Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. - Brilliant, let's move up. Paul, question if you, I know you're busy there, fella, but I never got one. (laughs) - How are you feeling? - Well, do you know what you didn't? I actually-- - 'Cause I jumped in. - I actually fully blame Chris here and here for changing the subject twice there and bringing it back to a different question. Chris is totally your fault here, fella. Well, we'll go back to you for one question and, Phil. Qwata is doing well at Sunblan, according to Dick, as in Qwata. - Qwata. - Dick, Rickens, still he's doing great. So, is he-- - Dick, don't forget, doesn't he? Is he worth the other chance? - Is he worth the other chance? - That's a fucking wedge, no matter what. - Is he worth another chance at Liverpool? - Look, I was a fan of Qwata's when we signed him. I didn't think he was, I thought he actually played well on the pre-season tour and when he went there, it was like, well, he's never gonna get a chance at Liverpool. So, is he gonna get a chance at Liverpool? No, and to say he's playing well at Sunblan, I think he's played three games. - He's played four games. - Yeah, that's what I'm saying, yeah. Someone said he's playing well, and here I was. Jeez, I don't remember seeing him playing. - Yeah. - At all. (laughs) - So, he checked? - I know. - He's played four games. - He's played four games. - Oh, I have a fucking hell, get him back. (laughs) - For fairness, they seem to have not lost any of the games he played. - That's true. - So, which is the pretty decent record. - Yeah. - No, he's not gonna get a chance now at this stage. - You don't need to look at him, he's shit. - I'd rather... (laughs) - Come on, man, you can't say that. - You can't say that. - Then you'll look at the fucking clowns that we have the back stage. - Yeah, come on, it couldn't be any more clan character if you got him. And the next question Paul is for you. This is from Darren, he reckons, oh, you love this. - With Stevie gone and a lack of experience and winners at the club, is it worth a pun for Jabi Alonso? (laughs) - Oh, how can this stay in the look at that guy? - No, no, no, no, hang on, I'm thinking, like, I would not yell, I wouldn't mind them, because obviously... - I was trying not to be too excited. - Well, obviously we've tried that thing, you know, the kind of deep play in playmaker with someone who's not that legit, that's not what Jared is. So, like, I wouldn't mind trying it with someone who is, like, obviously, you don't need to get maybe a year or something out of Alonso now at this stage. All his magic pace is going. But yeah, I wouldn't mind going for it. The only problem, again, is that you'd be tying up a huge amount in wages, probably for someone, like, someone where you... We have more pressing needs, kind of, up front, scoring goals now, but I wouldn't mind taking a punt, don't I? - Right. - I think it's a great show. You know, like, previously, last year, when he was leaving Madrid and all that, it wasn't that fun that the idea, like, it's always a bad idea going back. But right now, in a current situation, players leave, and I think we are, like, we all want to chance and go on, but he is another one of the experienced players in the dressing room, like, I don't know, Torre, it could be gone, Lucas could be gone. It'd be, like, it'd be a great scam to get. And he's still playing at the top of this game. So, absolutely. - It was a non-start when Jared was here. - Yeah, 'cause there's no point in having the totem in your squad. - Yeah, but if you're gonna play with the role that Jared was playing, then you may as well get in the fella, who specializes in playing in that role. - You know what I mean? That's our pieces as well. I mean, he wasn't that neared about Madrid 'cause Ronaldo was taking them all, and then he starts getting all tam-free kicks he's taken. - That's right, you're far away. - We need to set a piece, but take our very badly now, so. - Second last question is for you, Andy, on this section, and it is a question from Sean. Sean's very downbeat, and he says, "How fucking grim is this situation currently?" He says, "I mean, are we one Mark of it "at your way from becoming a new castle?" (laughing) - I don't like that you're thinking. - No, no, no, we're not, we're not like that. Look, we're still fifth in the league. Like, Slagging Rogers is about coming out and saying, "Pair, it fucking is Pair." That's the problem, it is Pair. Everyone above us is richer and has been, you know, for the last 10 years as being way more successful than us. So, fifth coin of it is Pair. We can still go on and buy a couple of players. We're not going to have far from the new castle at the moment. So, no, I think that's rubbish. And there is a lot of people on Twitter and very downbeat fans that just don't put everything in perspective, but we're not, we're still fifth, and we still, I'd say, we're about, "Is Troy gonna score 15, 20 goals?" Season away from challenge for top four again. I'm probably one or two more players. Some of our suitable players in the system that, you know, a bit of experience like Alonso, away from actually putting us a little bit back closer to where we were previously. - I'll joke this. - Oh, I'll joke this. - We got storage for season. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's very true. - Well, I'll joke this out as well. Going back to the question I asked Chris to start in terms of, you know, what do we need? If you look at the spine that we have, potentially had, and you had Sacco, you have Emery Chan, you have Henderson who plays well when he's a gold midfielder, you'll be so out of him. You've got a fit storage and continue. But that's a very strong set of group of players to build a solid round. When we talk about who would you build the team around, you've got players there that you can build a very, very strong team around. You need to just compliment and add to them. - Yeah. - You know, like, you could imagine a midfield tree of Chan, Henderson, and Coutinho being more incapable of destroying nearly all the teams in the league. You know, from, say, six downwards, that midfield will be more than capable of taking on, on other teams, being able to play, being able to pass themselves around, and open up space and open up gaps. And that's without, like, up top you have a fit storage. You know, he's fucking brilliant when he plays. And then you've got, you know, we have, because of what's gone on, we've lost a bit of perspective in terms of what we actually have at the club. Because they haven't performed well, and whatever's gone on at the club, it just hasn't, just hasn't sat well. Luxury players are struggling to play and the whole lot, but we do have the potential to do a hell of a lot better than we've done this season. And that's the real frustration. - All right, well, let's talk briefly about that. I've got one more question for Chris. Primarily towards the end, and we'll see what we say about it as well. But let's, in an effort to be sort of semi serious and professional about this, acknowledge that we have one game left, a way to stoke in the season. - You wouldn't think it the way people are going on. - You wouldn't have to fucking play it towards an afternoon. - Yeah, it's like, what the fuck? - I know, you wouldn't think it. So we always get a little bit of predictions, and we get a little bit of an idea of what line it might be. Does anyone have any particular thoughts that they want to share in stoke, or will we just go straight predictions? 'Cause I don't care. - Can I say something? - All I'd say is, just don't play any one. That's not in the plans for next year. - Yeah, I think that absolutely was. - You know, I think that that was a good farewell for Jared now, that's it now. - Yeah. - You know, that was his last game. Don't put Jared through this shunt out there. - Yeah, yeah, you won't. - Just play whoever's in the plans for next season. - Yeah. - You know, make sure Jared knows. Play and make sure a few of these players are playing, even bring in a kid right back. - The kid right back? - My kid, bring him back. And I'll just do that. That's what I'll do to ask you, you know what I mean? - Chris, sorry you got it. - Here's the big question. - You play Sterling? - No, no, absolutely not. You can't attack the bollocks like that and get a game of follow. You should be, you should be getting the club flying. - Yeah, that's interesting. That's a very interesting one. - You should be flying a band from the club. It shouldn't be even at the awards for me. - What are you getting on? - He's getting on. He's getting, he's getting connected. (laughing) - Very only. - Periscope and into fucking sports news. - Phil, you want to say something about the snow game before we got the predictions? - I know nobody gives a shit about the snow game really. - It's hard to, really. - I know it's hard because if they couldn't give a shit about the hardest game, you wonder what's the point and even turn up, would it be better after just giving them a walk over? - Yeah. - I'm just ending the season the way it is. Unfortunately though, we finished seventh, which is possible after this weekend. Our season starts in July 2nd. After the fourth round of the Europa League starts in July 2nd. - Christ alive. - So, the players want the holiday. They want to go down there and they want to win that match because we finished fifth or straight into the group stages of the Europa. We finished seventh, we start the season on July 2nd. - And three points can swing out, it's sweet. - Three points, three points secures us fifth. - Our point ahead of sports. - Our point ahead of sports, I think two points ahead of Sil Tampton of sports and Sil Tampton both win and we lose, we'll finish seventh. Now, going back to Andy's point is about fifth being power, right? If we finish seventh, that flight that Brendan has to take over to Boston suddenly becomes a lot longer and it's a lot bigger of a conversation, a lot higher argument to keep his job. - He's gonna be, yeah, he's gonna be. - Because you've gone seventh, second, seventh and you're starting to look like, well, what is your, what can you manage to? Because the collapse we've put in, if we don't win, we'd have only picked up eight points in the nine matches. - Like that. - Like the idea of putting in a collapse, we've put in a great first there, right? - Well, we have, 'cause we've talked, we've talked about this incredible toward the in-game streak that we went down with. But the bit before the toward the in-game streak was a parter, right? And the collapse that's happened since that streak has been fucking symbolic. Eight points from a remaining, from 27. That was on the table. 27, which would have taken us to, well, what was the choo-choo club? - 22, I think it's only me. Now, how's the 17? - 78? - 70, one or something. - 81 it was. I think it was. - That's five different numbers. - That'd be count. - Whatever it was. - 78, 75. But those points have been dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping. And all of a sudden, we're in a position now where we're struggling to get over the line for fifth. And again, it comes back, this is back to the Brendan show. He's gone out on the major to say fifth as per. So if we don't finish fifth, he's put himself. - Yeah, he's put himself. - With his own words, he's put himself back into the shit. - And not for the first time. - Not for the first time. - You reminded me of a nice little sound bite I had prepared. - I got a lot of it. So cheers. (laughing) - In the last six games, there's been 15 points and a cup of wine at stake. And all we have to show for it is five points. Oh, it's fucking, it's absolute raw. - And it brings you back to the beginning of November when he was just still mad shit that didn't console it with the season previous. And playing players that every fan was gone. What the focus of the story? Well, as soon as he changed to a more comparable team to the season before, we went on that run. And then as soon as you kind of got found out a small bit, he just reverted back to November. - To November. And it's now quite instant in stock. We've just dropped points after points. Like we should be fucking top four. 'Cause you know it if gave Liverpool every opportunity. - As Phil says, Johnny Henry, be asking those questions, I guess. Okay, Chris, can we start with you then and get a prediction if you have any notion of how you think the game will go against stock? (laughing) - I think we'd be lucky to take the pitch to be honest. I'm in pessimistic mode at the moment. I think we're going to lose that one. Two nil. - There's a 10, huh? Fuck. Let's think. I think that happen to Spurs, we'll also lose. So we'll get fifth by default. - Okay, I see it. Lurch over the line, lovely, lovely. Paul, your prediction. - No, I don't care. (laughing) - Fuck sake, Paul. - Charlie, I don't want to score. That's my best. - Yeah, that's my best. And have you got any kind of ideas then you want to go down, Paul is really good. I got last year prediction for me. - Yeah, just I think probably win a 2-1. - 2-1. - Like the conviction is fucking amazing. Yeah, I'm in the same boat as Chris. I'm terribly pessimistic about how this goes. I don't see how we do it. And I think the starting thing has got to rattle things in order a little bit. So yeah, hopefully we'll get it by default, but we don't win that match, I don't think Phil. - I think we win because they want as long a holiday as possible. There's actually something underlying for them now. Forget you're open to Holler. - Or forget celebrating your club captain legend. - Yeah. - Fuck that shit. - Forget that. If the lads have to give up a holiday in Geon, give up the whole, the whole of Geon being off and Holler being Holler and they have to come back in the middle of Geon to start the season in July 2nd. They'll put in a performance to make sure that they have a longer holiday and a nice breakout to July. There's something for them to play for. - Yeah, given that he's lads an awful lot of credit though, 'cause like the likes a lot of them did this. I don't think there's one of a chore to him at Holler like when he's sitting there catching slides but it's not open to what I'm making. I don't think they're sitting across their minds about. They haven't thought this far ahead. I think the lures will end up in the qualifying rounds or whatever. And then in July or whenever it starts, they go. - This is... - It's ranching season back in Brazil and Lucas knows that he needs to get back off to get that was cattle back in after fucking firm. I mean, I've seen him in the cowboy hats. He was taking to himself, angry season lads, fuck this. I need to be back in Geon to get that cattle in and get the wheat done. Now he's gone. He'll lead the fucking team. - He will lead. See how it's finished. It is. It's farmer season. Farmer season in Brazil. - Priorities. - Priorities. - Okay, wait. Well look. - Continue on one to go back for a bit of beach holiday. - That's, that's all thoroughly depressing. Let's hope that we maybe do get this little bit of an extra stint and that the boys do go down the cynical route that you're talking about and get a bit of extra holiday. Chris, with no football this summer, and we do have a little bit of extra time to play around and to be perfectly honest, I think all of us could do with a football break. As our go-to-go for movies, what would you recommend coming up this summer? - I'd recommend just being in a bit of depression for the next few weeks. (laughing) Just reminded me there's no World Cup this summer. - Yeah, literally there's no 40, so. - You know what I'm minding. Yeah, it's actually, it should be a bit decent summer. My worry is that the best stuff's kind of already come and gone, but it's Avengers or Mad Max. But yeah, we thought about the Pixar movie Inside Out, that's gonna be great. Looking forward to Jurassic World, looking forward to Ant-Man. I'm intrigued to see just how awful Terminator Genesis is. That's gonna be it. - Are you basing that on the trailer, you are? - I'm basing on everything. - On everything. - Okay. - Okay. - That movie is not terrible, I will be shocked. - Yeah. - But you know, Fingers crossed, you know, I'm always hoping for the best, so you never know. But yeah, I'm looking forward to also mission if possible, but I think it's gonna be great. - How could that not be good? - Is Mad Max as good as everyone's saying to this? - It's great, it's fantastic. I'm gonna go see it again tomorrow night for the third time. - Oh, nice. (laughing) - That's a hell of a recommendation for fucking hell. - Here Chris, we've got a question, right? We were talking about this the last couple of weeks. You know we are man in the Avengers, the fellow with the bow and arrow, what's his name? - Oh, good. - Legolas. (laughing) - Yeah, we were trying to figure out what's the point to him. - What's the point? - Really what's the point of it? - Like the rest of them, there's a point to the rest of them, but like he doesn't even have a super parenting. - No, no, no, no, BCL, he's CC's good with the bow and arrow. You know, that's useful skill. - Is he literally just one of the best in the forest? - Is he just like one of our mates, who descent off in a really intense training program and brought him in? - He's making a wish strategy. - He's basically, look, if you go off a train really hard with a bow and arrow, you can get in the Avengers. - Yeah, you can come along. - His backstory is he's a make a wish foundation winner. - Yeah. (laughing) - Yeah, I knew you were gonna go there. - Chris, I've got-- - So does that mean that Lavrenden is in the next Avengers movie as well? (laughing) - Chris, I've got a very serious question. - I've got a very serious question for you, fella. We've got a guy here who's got like, it's almost like a handicap. He cannot help himself. He cannot remember the names of movies. We were trying to remember the movie. I think it's called Click. He was calling it a remote control. He doesn't know what to do. Have you got any sort of, is there any kind of mnemonics strategies or? Do you have anything that you can suggest where this guy, because he's in trouble? It's a real, it's a worry. And it's gonna, I'm just worried about him. It's gonna get worse. You know, and then he won't be able to deal with life. So, adding suggestions. - I'm just lucky that Star Wars, they called them all Star Wars. - That was handy. - Yeah, because I'm sorry. - I know what happens now. (laughing) - Listen, whatever title you wanna call the film, that's fine by me. You know, I used to work in a video store and some of the crap we would get, people would come in and go, you know, it doesn't matter what the film is called. They just go, Batman, one for Batman, please. Can I get Batman? (laughing) - Which one? Batman Forever, Batman or Robin, Batman? - Just Batman, yeah, yeah. - As long as it makes you happy, if you wanna call it Click Remote Control or latest out of Saturn, their piece of crap, whenever you want to do, whatever makes you happy. You know, my dad used to call Inspector Morse, Captain Moss. (laughing) - Chris, just one last one, right? This M crowd, what's the DC version of the sort of, is it the suicide squad? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What's the story with that? Look, they've seen about a billion pictures of it. When does that fill them out? Is that even major? - It's being filmed right now. It's out next November, I think. - Today, November, 2016. - Yeah, 'cause it was the end. And come here, what's the story with, you know, the new Batman film with Ben Affleck? See you soon, isn't he? - Batman versus Superman. - Is that Batman versus Superman, isn't it? - That is. - Ah, for fuck's sake. - Yeah. - That's their devil too. - Watch the trailer, it's a worry. - Is Robin in it? - No, no, Robin. - Oh, and it might be. - Oh, you reckon, okay. You see, this is where we get Chris on, he knows you. I don't know, I think. - Chris, what's your stance on Steven Seagal? (laughing) - Try it carefully. - Yeah, you should probably watch what you say here, man. - You stand behind him, because he's so large these days that he couldn't turn around to get you, if you said something at the bottom. My stance on Steven Seagal is that he's past his best. - Listen, go fuck yourself. (laughing) Here, do you reckon the greatest movie of all time? (laughing) - Your self and part of come up with an idea for a movie with Steven Seagal, which include Michael Flatley. Can you think of any other two actors that you put in a movie that would be better than that one? 'Cause I can't. - Like, good, good. Seriously, give us an original double act there. - Better than what? - Michael Flatley and Steven Seagal. - In Dance of Dead, in a set in Iraq. - Flaming for you. - No, no, no, no, it's in Iran now, 'cause of the nuclear shit, yeah, so. - Wow, that's pretty insane, actually. Yeah, I'd like to see that. (laughing) - Look, we'll try and make it happen. - The Kickstarter, me and Paul. (laughing) - Chris, you want to be on, Paul? - I'd like to see Jason's day them in Anton Deck. I'd like to see them with me here, just fighting Jason's day them. (laughing) - Yeah, expert, Chris, you're an absolute star, man, I really appreciate the input there. Thanks a lot. - I am Luchware, you are listening to Trippin's chat. (laughing) - Small midget fella. - It sounded a big midget fella. - Do you watch it, Paul? - No. - Do you watch, honey? - This is a fucking great roaring success. - Okay, Johnson dies in it. (laughing) - This is Walkland Johnson in it to make it happen. (laughing) - I love the fuck. Right, next, I'll go do these in order. First one is from Sweet, who was clarifying a few things about last week. Some of you boys give him abuse about being a fish tank fan. He's not at all, he's just... (laughing) Yeah, no, no, no, no. So anyway, he says he was watching Raiders of the Last Dark and he got thinking. You're not looking at his fish tank? - No, he lost a lot. He got thinking about his favorite movie scene. So what's your favorite movie scene, first off? - Is that gonna tell us this favorite movie scene, no? - It was the scene from Raiders of the Last Dark, I'd imagine, given that he was watching it. So yes, it was. - Was watching the Raiders of the Last Dark and got the thinking. Favorite movie scene. - Yeah, I did. - I'll tell you what mine is. Glengary Glen Ross, which got all the gold I was seeing, and it was dead, it was written specifically for it. - With the actual brass balls, that's fucking magic. - Absolutely, really. - You were saying that? - No. - Ah, you're lower. - It's class. - Yeah, well, no. I probably did, but I just don't know the name of the film. - That's fucking dead. - Yeah, you're never remembering that name. - They're salesmen. - No fucking salesmen. - They're salesmen. - You're probably called salesmen film. - Yeah, it's sales. Struggling salesmen, father. (laughing) - Mine is by far. - Go ahead. - Yeah, because you're more the fucker when you're loisted. - Oh, you love it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You love playing wanker anyway, like so. (laughing) - Yeah, I thought you had wankers, right? - The one in the air part that really got me going, 'cause I'm just always being mad about the aircraft, but when you hit the aviation field and it went up and blew the aircraft, that was amazing. (laughing) - That was amazing. - Yeah, yeah. - You're an aircraft fan, just blow the shit out of it. - Oh, just an aircraft wanker, yeah. - Aircraft wanker. - I'm sure you have some type of real air tables fucking favorite scene. - No, not at all. It's probably the untouchables. - Shock a lie. - No. - Shock a lie. - Shock a lie. - I've never seen that scene. - What do you mean chocolate? (laughing) What's your favorite scene? - Yorky, it's called Yorky. - Which scenes are favorite? - Yeah, they've seen the untouchables with the pram going down and it's all gone slow motion. The baby's pram has gone away down the steps in Grand Central Station and the car see is sliding into position at the bottom of the steps and he's taking, takes a guy out. Kevin Kastner's watching it all happening, no? Doesn't set for a minute. - I saw that film like absolutely years ago, I don't remember. - Yeah, I've just watched it all. - I like a pound, isn't it? - Yeah, De Niro's Capone and Sean Conner is in his class. That'd be me. - Mine is the Empire Strikes Back, right at the end. - Oh, go on, pop, I'm sorry. - Luke, I am a father. - Oh, that wouldn't be it. - Yeah, like that's the big reveal. You're not expecting that. - So what you're saying is when you saw that first of you kinda hit your end of your head. - This is the best ever. The fact of a spot, five. (laughing) - Well, you've been 37 for four years, so what I don't call you before. (laughing) - I don't believe it is. And even now, when you're watching it, you're just going, that's a deadly twist. You're not expecting that. - Yeah. - Yeah, aren't. Because he's after wearing the face off a sister and a horseman. - And there's no comfort. - There's no comfort out of the toilet. - So yeah. - Well, actually wearing the face off. - Stop it. (laughing) - Right, next question. - I was needing into the story. - Ah, for me. - Sorry, Andy. Sorry, you fella, go on, go on, go on. - Maybe in the big airplane, wanker, you know. We had the lads, heads wrecked on the plane, headin' out, like, you know, over the top, over the video on the takeoff and all, and it'll be plowin' in to be one of you. Follow Facebook pages, you know. - Hey, you're hittin' a fuckin' lot. - I don't really get to it. We see what was different is we flew out on there. - So, how are you, you're a close sort of take offs, you've got to like... - No, no, just, just... - Okay, go on, go on. - Listen, right? - We took off. - Sorry, bro. - I'm runway 1-6, right? - Yeah. - So, runway 1-4 is 2-8, which is, you know, the road, the back road to the airport. - Yeah, where people watch, yeah. - And they normally come in from right to left, right? 'Cause that's a prevailing wind. But the runway we went in, we flew out. - You lose me, fella. - Ballymone, right? - Yeah. - So that's what's interesting though. - Do you still be in a space room? - All the arrow sections we mad into that, 'cause it's not often you fly out that way. - Okay. - But it got me talkin' on the plane, about a story we played in Ballymone years ago. - Hey! (laughing) (laughing) - We were still talkin' about this story about a fella on a team, Kevin O'Connor, right? He's playing left full. And he got a bit distracted by the planes takin' off on Dublin Airport from Ballymone. They were flyin' over. So, some of the letter are, Kevin tuned the fuckin' stuff, watchin' the airplanes. So Kevin tuned in, just runs over, balls comin' down, and just smashes this fella up in the air, breaks 'em up, right? The only problem was, out there, the two pitches, side by side, right? (laughing) - He was never runnin' on to the wrong place. (laughing) I was just cleanin' (laughing) - I could just fella runnin' my tight aye, 'cause this place. (laughing) Kevin O'Connor comes out and fuckin' smashes him up in the air. (laughing) - Fuck's sake. - Was you bein' to drive and have to the airport and have a swiffed shandy lookin' at their planes? (laughing) - Normally go out a bit early, if I'm pickin' up someone from the airport, they'd head out a bit early, 'cause I'd have my apps go on like you know, you know, they're playin' for in the rap and then the air traffic control up, and I'd be like, no where everything is, no. (laughing) - That's the end of comin' into the fuckin' airport! - No, they'd not, like, now each car's on in and that, and they'd be listenin' away, and then now that's not comin' in. So, you gotta get into it, like, sometimes we can-- - No, no, Harry, hand that activity's on now. - How would you be listenin' to it, you can tune into the frequency of it. - I don't think you're saying, I don't think you're saying all this up. And then, you run that in the background and ring up the plane for in the rap, and that has an augmented reality hangin' on it now. (laughing) - And augmented reality. - Oh my God! - So, you know what augmented reality is? - I can only imagine. - See, you look through your camera. - Okay. - Into the sky, and it'll identify the plane, and then you can click on that, and you can see, like, it's real, and then-- - What's wrong with you? - If you see a plane flyin' over, we could be playin' golf the lads week, and then we'd look up and go, "Oh, yeah, that's, uh, the verge." - Do you look up through your phone? - No, we didn't know, 'cause at the time, we'd say, "That's the verge, it's there, it's there to Vegas." And they'd go, "Hell, you know that." This was a far engine, it's, you know, it's two o'clock, that fly's over here, and then they'd go, and they'd challenge, and they'd go, "Oh, fair enough." Here we go, put the phone up, and that'll be half. - It's very 2007, March 7, now, with the Vegas tryin' on. - Hang on, let's get a tour time. Would you have a pedal lookin' at a plane? (laughing) 'Cause you keep dodging this question, you know? - No, come on! (laughing) - 7, 8, 7! (laughing) - 8, 8, 8, 8, 8, 8! - Are they comin' on? - The organ is looking tall, so it's-- (laughing) - You know what I mean? Any old prop, like-- (laughing) - God, it was that night with the Airbus, yeah. (laughing) - Yeah. - Bobby, how can you three, 80, they'll come with you? (laughing) - Well, it'll give you a lift, don't you? (laughing) (laughing) - Have I got that one with this one, mate? (laughing) - How many different euphemisms for wankin' did you use there? (laughing) - Oh, my God, I think the-- (laughing) (laughing) - Okay, we're back on to another, hey, Phil. James wants to know what your favorite black is. Okay, Ali's a plane wanker. You're a space wanker, so-- (laughing) - What is your favorite planet in the solar system? - Bar earth, you can't choose the planet in which you-- - I have to pick a planet. - Yes. - Or another planetary body. - I knew this had happened, yes, it says planet, so stick to that. - That's before me now, as well. - Yeah. - Okay. (laughing) - Jupiter. - Yeah, boy? - Plastinize me. - Yeah? - See it in the sky without looking through a telescope? - Mm. - And I get a big, huge gas joint. - Fascinates. - Do you have an augmented reality app, as well? - I don't know if I'm looking at the stars, I'm not going to start it. - Yeah, do you pull me away to it? - At your business, I'm like-- (laughing) - Holy shit. - You have a fucking cunt. - We are getting some revelations here. (laughing) - Oh, there's no reality. - I love being down in Wicksford and looking up at a clear sky at night and you can actually see the middle-- - Is Wicksford closed at the space, sir? - It is. (laughing) - 'Cause now there's Licks back and under. (laughing) - Hang on, that's the best line ever. - There's Wicksford closed at the space. (laughing) - It's just the way he said he looked at the Wicksford. He's like, "It's a great view from Wickspect." (laughing) - I'm at the top of the sand dunes. - I bet you two boys had X-Ray Specs looking at birds when you were a little outside here. - What? - You did, didn't you? - X-Ray. - X-Ray Specs. - I think you're revealing a bit there. (laughing) - Well, maybe they were only in the 1960s comics I used to buy. I don't know, I don't know. - There was X-Ray Specs in '60s. - Yeah, they were, yeah. - Yeah? - Yeah, yeah, it's a bit closer, 'cause it's a little poor. (laughing) - The closer you get, the closer you are. - James' second question is who would win in a scrap or a fight to cast of Sopranos or the cast of Breaking Bad? - That's a fucking no-brainer. - What'd you say? - Sopranos, look, if you go back to your man. - Oh, for fuck's sake. (laughing) - Your man with the head on the hair. - Your man, the junkie lad that is with me and German, Hoisenberg. - Look at this gold. Yeah, what about it? - There are two, they weren't exactly fucking hard and criminal, isn't it, were they? Whereas the lads and the Sopranos. - There are a lot of hard and criminals in the cast. - It's having to be cast, like, you know, there's gangs and all, and break them by all. - Scary bars, there's no seasons. - There's no lads who would've had, like, real connections. Like, someone else lads and the Sopranos had real connections. - Geez, I don't know. - Going back through the days, they barely had loads of gangster films. Now, of course, there's fucking my feelings. - I'm shaving out of twins, lads and breaking bottles, scary bastards. - That's just, like, everyone says that. Look at Scary. He's got a shaving head. He's, and he's look scary, but he isn't. - Hmm. - Oh, he's-- - He's trying to solve Paulie well, not as well. - Yeah. - He's the best characters ever. He's, I don't know, I don't know if he's especially hard or anything, but he's funny. (laughing) - Right, next one is-- (laughing) - I'm moving swiftly, I thought. (laughing) - This is, again, kind of related, television related, team that we've got on through the show, anyway. Simon's wandering, Simon Brondish. What great TV show would you have missed if you hadn't embraced Terence in other words yet? So, what TV show would you have missed? - We're not to incriminate ourselves around him at all. - No. - But a friend of mine would have-- (laughing) - Someone I know. - It's that I know, yeah. - A close friend of mine. You wanna miss the jinx? - I've got that record, it's not having to watch it yet. - Oh, it's fucking sensational. - Yeah, I saw the first one, look, lads. - I'll tell you what. Probably the best television series I've seen. I'd say in 15, 20 years time, we're going to look back at that and go, that is one of the most amazing series ever. - Six episodes, is that right? - Yeah, it's a documentary, but it's fucking incredible. - What's it about? - It's about Robert Dorst. He is one of the heirs to the Dorst Family Fortune in New York. It's true story, and it's even going on. - It's a murder mystery, essentially, right? - Yeah, but the outcome of this continues to go on now, but it's still being probed and everything like this. But he's in it, and everything that happened around him, he's in it. I'm not going to say much because it will give away what happened before. - Dejinks. - Well, Dejinks, the jinks, yeah. - Paul, what's your amazing list? - It's on, it's on, I think it's still on the square, you're on demand. - Please. - Yeah. - The Sopranos. - The Sopranos, yeah. - I heard loads about it, like. - Yep. - Like, you know, it's not on Netflix, right? And I thought so, when they, when they-- - When your mate watched it. - When my mate who will remain the name that's downloaded them, then I got to see them, yeah? - That was Andy, that he had that time. Andy, your show. - Yeah, look in suits at the mound. - Like in suits. - Yeah, the mound says season four, which is kind of a pupsy, Torvy. So I'm not like, flowing back home to watch it anymore, you know? It was deadly for the forestry seasons. Now, it's not like this mad profound, like, TV show or anything like that, but it's a very enjoyable watch. - Oh, it's a really nice looking cast. - A nice looking cast. That does help. What are you going to say, Paul? - It's the forest kind of tree seasons or whatever. I don't know, it's a good watch, like, I just found it sat again a bit repetitive. But yeah, if you're a woman-- - What's her name in her? Rachel? - Yeah. (laughing) - If I'd not seen the Jinx Stones Gate, which is-- - That's manga, isn't it? - Yeah. That's probably one of the best series I've seen. Despite it being an anime series, it's probably one of the best things I've ever seen. - Genuinely. - Most of the best things I've ever seen have been actually on DVDs or on TV. Except, um, racing series. House cards are quite good. I haven't seen the third season. - I don't know, I thought the fourth season was fucking short, yeah. - You often hear of a someone watching TV showing and you discover, it's got soap coils. And that, like, that just does it for me, no way, in the story. - You wouldn't watch a movie with soap bottles on it. - Would you, I'd say you were a soap bottle worker. - I am a soap bottle worker. (laughing) - I am as well. - That to me is just, how do you watch the whole screen on the soap coils? Like, that's not a bad shout. Like, there is-- - I enjoyed, I enjoyed the Nordic noir stuffers. - I enjoyed the Nordic noir. (laughing) - You're a fucking tosser. (laughing) - How do I remember watching? You don't think that's something you're fucking googled or something like that? - Yeah, impressive things to say to your parties. I enjoy the Nordic noir. - That was the bridge. - Yeah, that was definitely-- - Keep going with the Nordic noir. - Don't ask me real fucking names. That was the last one I watched that I remember the name. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - There was another one. (laughing) - It was the one, the dragon, the thing. - Oh yeah, that was a movie. That was good though. - Yeah, put that with the, it was a Nordic series. - Do a trade 'em, to be fair, yeah. - My pay is when the show, the big story, the start, like, where you have to roll all the shit at the start of the movie. 'Cause you're only sitting down getting ready to like-- - Oh, hang on, so even those, even that little bit of text and screenpits, yeah. - Yeah, so nice, like-- - So nice, I have to roll in back and read it again because I'll be afraid of my life that I haven't got this fucking perfect now. (laughing) - This fucking feeling was ruined. - It's destroyed. - I like it, I don't mind at the end, you know. - How do you feel about the Bronx 1848? (laughing) - I don't like that as well because you know that in the movie, a few minutes later, it's gonna be one of those where I go-- - The Bronx 1857. - No, it would be a few years ago, before it. You know, that shit, like, you know, when you go back in time. I mean, you know, you're sitting the start of it like, you know, that's kind of, you're just jumping from-- - Holy shit. - And you go, I can't break. What, yeah, we haven't seen it before. (laughing) I'm not even looking after this, it's gone. Do you know where, what just happened there a few minutes ago, and now then let's fuck this back out of the way. (laughing) - So give me movies to just like, shit blowin' up a lot. (laughing) - With no writing. - Yeah, yeah. - And no words, just shit blowin' up. - Oh, fuck, shit. - Yeah, all the boy hurts, bang. - Fuckin' boom thing. (laughing) - There's some titles in that though, isn't there? - When they're speaking German, especially the first one. - There you go, that fuckin' chucky. - I've watched it that many times. (laughing) - You know, understand German. (laughing) - I just know exactly what they're saying. - Yeah, there he is, yeah. - Yeah. - Hands on the ass. - Set the star out, there's somethin' on his head. (laughing) - Too bastard. (laughing) - Yeah, that's right, and then I turn it off. Turn it off. Just the neighbor to turn it off. (laughing) - Right, look worth, don't. There's literally nothin' left to say. - Directed by the bollocks. (laughing) (laughing) - All right, as well. - Right, we finished with some admin. We want to thank Astro Park for hosting our show here every week. Check them out at Astro Park.ie. I want to give a quick shout to Dave Will, who's a very, very good and interesting postcard artist. He's got a lot of really interesting collections, match day ones, commemorative Istanbul ones, and Gerard ones as well. And you can find his stuff on DaveWill.bigcartell.com. They all have their own number of certificates and the likes, so check that out. The next thing we want to mention is another event. This is the Brendan Deveni charity match in Gala dinner. It's on in Mollongar Athletic Games 10, and it will be a match between Mollongar All-Stars and Brendan Deveni All-Stars with celebrities and people like Paul McGrath, Philip Ab, Alan Kennedy, and Steve Staunton featuring there. And you can buy tickets for that event at the Gravel Arms reception on 0449348563. The next event we want to mention are two five times events. First, for Irish listeners in Gala way, in the Pukan Bar, you can find out the details about that night with Robbie Fowler on our Twitter feed in the five times account. And for American listeners, there's a selection of nights in Toronto, New York, Charlotte, and Los Angeles. Night's involving, again, Robbie Fowler, but this time with Jason Muckett here, and Dee Dee Haman. And again, you can find the information for those nights on our Twitter feed and on the five times Twitter feed. We want to mention briefly the Dan Layden competition, Dan's an excellent Irish artist and he's promised us a wonderful print if you can answer the correct, correctly the competition question that we had earlier on. So you need to get on to our YouTube and have a look there and you can be in contact with the pod Twitter account there as well. We should really be playing some music fill in between times here 'cause this is very, very long. - You got the fucking longer now, we don't hold you up? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, your day trip is tonight. ♪ We shot him ♪ (laughing) Yeah. That worked well. - Yeah, your day trip is tonight where I Chris Hugh at Paul Brennan and the young Phil Casey, myself, Trevor Downey. - Say it. - Anything. - I was like, "Ah, I know you, I was gonna laugh." (laughing) - That laugh. (laughing) - I think I'm gonna convince that, like, no, it didn't even register what I knew I was saying. - Yeah, it just didn't happen. - So they were saying Joe was getting about to golf or something and so on, I'd just say, "Ah, golf ball." (laughing) - The trip was like, "The young Phil is under fucking golf." - Oh, yeah. - We were out. - That was breakfast, ah! - That's exactly what it was like. - He said breakfast, ah! (laughing) - It was one go here, right? There are most of them nights away there, so you could be forgetting, but one of them was there. (laughing) One of them was just amazing. Like, we walked past, there was like a far bar, say, right? And we walked past another far bar. There was just English lights heading out, playing a different hall. And they just went, "All right, lads, I'll just let her sit down." And he just went, "I have his lads." (laughing) - I was like, "Sorry to lagging behind." So we're saying they're, they're reactions. They were just looking at each other around. (laughing) - What the fuck? - The amount of coding have looked more or so. I'm sure he just talked. - I'll say you have a good job, but I always wonder what happens to the guy that walks into the video store. (laughing) - Fair play, dude. - It's a boy don't wear. (laughing) - If he doesn't get off to an absolute froyer of a start, the pressure on him is going to be huge and I'm not talking about from the media. Though it was already, you could see there's Mormons already in the fan base. - There's Mormons. - There's Mormons as well. (laughing) - I was unaware of this. - They bring their many wives. - I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know why they're against, but I don't know, it's good. - The cost of a fortune to bring the older families tonight. - Okay, okay, okay. (laughing) They're also critical lads to Mormon today. - That's what I was Mormon in there. - The people's house. (laughing) - Arasinal, this is the word. - So anyway, so you were saying, there's going to be Mormons. - There's going to be Mormons in the crowd. - That's good. (laughing) - And there'll be Mormons in the crowd. - Yeah, yeah. - The last thing we want to say is, right? It's just how it is in the world. There's more playing going on over one side. (laughing) But another playing, before we know, we left the fucking red arrows. (laughing) Smoking on, it's having no change. - What do you know, I mean, whoever can fuck the best, the biggest banner like the fucking blimps and everything to play. (laughing) - That's what they only win. - That'd be like the biggest banners every home playing. - Home's coming in, I'm parachute, you know. (laughing) - The end Rogers we chose banner on the weekend was hard to take. - That should be a shot there. - That should be. (laughing) - I wouldn't have had any sampling for the fuck I was performing for. (laughing) I was funny. Should've been just shot there. And let's see it then. No more playing. (laughing) That's what happens to you that's why you play it over after you play it. - It's shot there. - Part of the new main style tonight. So it was the end of this one. (laughing) - So, let's say you're in Tioga or Pilates or maybe you dabble in gymnastics like me. Either way, you know being flexible is key to doing what you love. That's why Smoothie King created this stretch and flex smoothie for people like us with whole fruits and organic veggies plus type two collagen. Make it part of your daily fitness routine to support flexibility and joint health. - So try this stretch and flex smoothie and tart cherry or pineapple kale. Order online today for pickup or delivery. Smoothie King, rule the day. - 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. - Oh, that's a cherry used to do in softball. - Uh, what? It's actually Geico's. - Whenever someone hit a triple, we would wave our bats and yell, 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. But we never got to use it because we would only hit home runs. Annoying. - The phrase is from Geico because they helped save people money. - Geico? - Yeah, they were our team sponsor. - Geico, 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. - This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network. - Sports Social, now on the Sports Social Podcast Network. - Hi, I'm Martin from Ness and Dorma, the retro football podcast. If you're a fan of '80s and '90s football, then this is the show for you. We're currently on a chronological footballing odyssey where I speak to authors, fans and experts, as we paint a picture of the two decades that shape the game like no others. The past is a foreign country to say, well, it's warmer here. Come and join us at Ness and Dorma, wherever you get your poets.
On this weeks pod we avoided the debacle of Saturday to focus on the main stories this week, FFP and Raheem Sterling. We talk to the foremost man on FFP Ed Thompson who runs www.financialfairplay.co.uk We then discuss the Raheem Sterling debacle with Empire Podcast host Chris Hewitt (the big red film buff that he is) on the ongoing saga and the likely future prospects. We take a look at the Stoke game with massive Apathetic glasses before discussing what to spend your time doing once the season ends on Sunday. We round off with Trippers chats and its a corker, including transportingesque level of revelations from some lads with augmented reality. Dont forget our Dan Leydon Competition so check out @LFCDaytrippers and @Anfieldindex twitter accounts for details, the answer is in this weeks video cast on YouTube -
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