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Right in the week leading into the crunch tie with United we look back at the learnings from the Swansea game. Trev goes full pirate with his Tripperland Crew as they look at what isnt and is working. We talk about the weekends crunch tie and round out with questions on childhood, bikes among others. Climb aboard me heartys ARR ARRRRRRRRR Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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19 Mar 2015
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Right in the week leading into the crunch tie with United we look back at the learnings from the Swansea game. Trev goes full pirate with his Tripperland Crew as they look at what isnt and is working. We talk about the weekends crunch tie and round out with questions on childhood, bikes among others. Climb aboard me heartys ARR ARRRRRRRRR

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[MUSIC] Just off the shores of Neverland, I hide away at CO. Ho, ho, let's go. Let's go. I'm pirate banded out with the plans of Captain Cook and Smee, yo, ho. Yo, ho, let's go. Let's go. The Mary crew, I'm Neverland Pirates through. I'm through their dolly buck and ears. Joy, we drink and the Neverland Pirates come alone. We need some volunteer. [MUSIC] Yo, ho, Jake and the Neverland Pirates. Climb aboard me hearties and be a pirate crew. Let's go. We think and the Neverland Pirates will set the coast together. Come on and join the crew. [MUSIC] Yo, ho, let's go. Ho, ho. Climb aboard me hearties, it's the day trippers. [MUSIC] Two must wins in the bag, but all that means is that the next two are now must win as a result. Success begets expectation. It was a real Jekyll unhide of a performance against Swansea and left us with plenty to talk about. Players we've waxed lyrical about were well off the boil. We're looking at you, Emery. The captain knew there was a contribution somewhat when an early yellow but came up trumps. Many of they showed the composure and reflexes of an all-dawn favorite for the Golden Gloves. Sacco made clowns of the home fans by being imperious on his recall. And the manager often lying over his in-game tactics. Out-tactic everyone in the world ever, even Timmy. Reporting for duty against medical advice and sporting some highly dubious prior cheek eyewear. [SOUND] Following my recent head implosion, I'm Lang John Trev Downey. And joining me in the bunker tonight is a man on the line, called Neil Poole from We Are Liverpool Fanzine. And in the bunker itself, we have Andy Namix Young, Neil Grayer than Gray Gray. And of course, captain dilution himself, Phil Casey. Yeah, let's begin with a review of Swansea, Neil Liverpool, one. Just the one game to talk about. So let's focus on that one. Pretty much a tough bastard of a ground for us since Swansea returned to the top here. Monday night was no different. Ultimately, the whole Liverpool finished with three points in the bag. And that looked far from likely at halftime. So we should really start with the man who seems to have been responsible for delivering that victory more than anyone that's the guy for himself. Neil, your thoughts on Brandon's management of the game? >> I think he definitely was responsible for it. I'll be honest with you, I was skeptical at first of whether he was responsible for it because I've always had the view that any manager at all should know all the different formations. And therefore, if you're standing there doing your day job as such, and another manager puts out a certain formation that is beating your formation, then that's your day job to know what you then change it to. There's always so many formations in the world. But the more I start to think about it, I think the more I realize I was really like to be a bit cynical, I'm probably quite some kind of fact, because I always remember when Rafa Benitez was here at the same time as Jose Mourinho, and they both had a habit of sort of substituting and affecting the game. I'd always remember being quite sort of obsessed. That Jose Mourinho was always lauded as a genius. There is a substitutions while Rafa was always criticized for having got it wrong in the first place, and therefore have it to make the substitutions. So, it could system with that view, the more I thought, as well as that. I think it was entirely down to Brendan Rodgers, and he was obviously making the changes in the first half as well, and when he swapped, he's staring Atlanta around. So, you know, he's made a change there, but I mean, it's great because I was watching a half-time when we discussed what should they actually do. And I wasn't too sure, and when he came out and he did that, that's the right thing. A football manager at Liverpool should be coming out and thinking of something that Liverpool fans can't, and that actually works, and that's what he did. So, I think it was entirely down to him, like the whole thing, like the diamond with the back and everything, not too sure that that's done that often. So, no, absolutely creds soon for coming up with the idea, and yeah, maybe you would expect the manager to do that, but a lot of them don't, and most fans of most teams, that's what they criticized their managers for. So, you know, we only have one or two ideas, so, no, yeah, I think it was entirely down to Brendan Rodgers, and obviously, a half-time as well, I think he's up to the seat. You know, he's had a bit of a good go with them, so maybe it's not just a tactical thing that Rodgers has done, it's also the man-management and, you know, the old-school stuff that he's done in terms of just, you know... Motivation and all that kind of thing. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, yeah, Andy, to be fair about the whole thing, you can talk about whether it's a, what are you reacted to about a situation which he created himself in the first place, but let's start from the start, and that was a ballsy enough team selection in terms of the people that were left out. Yeah, just on the formation, like, the whole thing of playing tree and then a diamond is on scene, and a tart, like, it left us very vulnerable down the left and right, but only Swansea had that bad, like, they, you know, they've got so bad, it's unbelievable, like, another team would have put us to bed in the fourth half, and I don't think it was all formation, it was just a lack of urgency, and I'm quite worried now, going forward, that the team aren't going to move the ball forward as fast as they have been, you know? Mm-hmm. But, yeah, and, I mean, I was quite happy with the team selection, it was, I got back in, like, it was the obvious one, you know, it's the only affair that he might leave out, but, you know, we have a situation here now where Rodgers has started dealing with what the fans have been shouting out for ages and has been going on a long time, so, yeah. So you were happy with the personnel starting? Yeah, it was back to the layout of them and the formation. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. And I was quite interested to see how LaLana would walk out on that right wing back role, and he kind of changed a very sharp, so it wouldn't mind seeing a bit more of that, because I think the way LaLana is at the moment, he might kind of find his feet there, like, what our players have found our feet and our position. That's an interesting one that Andy focuses on LaLana there, Neil, because when we come to the idea of favourites, and an awful lot of people were thought, "Oh, Jesus, the lover is going to start this, Neil." But no, Sacco came back in, and as Andy said, that was the sensible thing to do. Jared was floating around, people were worried that, you know, he had started when perhaps he wouldn't have been the best choice to start. But LaLana, is he one of the last ones that hangs around in that kind of, is he a favour of Brendan's category? You know, did it seem to be that Brendan was trying to find a spot for him to work? I don't think so per se, his form is fluctuates a lot. Like, it's only a couple of weeks back, he was just, sorry, just before he had that injury. Remember, he was probably our best player for a short spell for maybe three or four consecutive games. Then he came back in, he found a hard tip, find that form again. But I don't think that he's trying to find necessarily some way to shoehorn him into the Force XI. I mean, there's a problem there, right? I mean, that's obvious, so he's, I mean, you have to try it. Like, what he's done up to this point in the season, so if he's trying different personalities in different places, then maybe it would just click because when LaLana's in there, it'll have to go for it, because maybe he was the obvious choice there. So, and he changes around that, it seems to work out, but in terms of the personnel, I think he got the personnel fairly bang on from, in terms of the starting XI, I don't think. And I don't think it was the tactic either, that was the problem in the Force XI. But it was just, the formation that we're playing, it's so dependent on quick-share passes and accuracy in the pass, I mean, Alan and Henderson, they wouldn't be people you talk about in the really high bracket of pass and accuracy. So, they have to be playing at a level of eight, nine out of ten for that formation or that diamond formation or the fortress, whatever you want to call for it to work. So the fact that they were a little bit below par and the pass on wasn't as snappy as it usually is, and it wasn't fine to defeat every single time. But that caused more of a problem rather than the formation we started with the top. If players were playing beneath their level for the Force XI. Fair enough. We can all categor and Neville went on a lot there at a half time about how Swansea have got it so really, and they've been excellent in all of this. Lots of teams have played with kind of a screen in front of our back players, you know, and chased down and pressed, but we've been able to manage a lot better at other times. It just so happened that Liverpool were like, it was like they were a fucking drunk or something at the start. Like, how bad was Alan at the start, how much better was he in the second half? It was like he couldn't string two passes together. So, people get caught up in formations and shapes and all that. For me, like, it's always about just the philosophy and the idea that Brendan has with the team and that's using the ball and making the ball work as a ball to the players. And they just weren't doing it in the Force XI. It wasn't, there was a much better output in the second half. Is your summarization of the whole thing then, that basically in the second half, are you reducing it down to an effort thing? I think they just got a fucking kick in the arse. You think it's a set of time? Okay. I think they've been asking questions that a certain player has gone, what's going on? Fair play to them. The player has to be, the change of shape can help as well because it freshens up the players and psychologically the players have a new idea. Now, the formation didn't really change, so Jared came on and they changed the grenade formation. Yeah, yeah. But it was like you rolled a grenade onto the pitch, which are, and then when the blue up all the players, wherever they ended up, that was the shape of the rest of the game. But he didn't just automatically change, but when Jared come on and he's seen him pointing out where to be, and he started to have the partner. I mean, it worked out, but I mean, the energy and everything else from the second half. What's the main thing? Phil, would you hook in on Andy saying there? In a way, in a way, look, I think Rogers managed it very well in terms of the change of shape and the change in going back to that pressing that we'd start pressing, and it wasn't just that game. We'd start pressing over the last couple of games. We weren't pressing as ruthlessly or as hard as we had been, and sometimes that can set into the players, even though they set out what a game plan to do something, they don't necessarily execute it because they've fallen into a lull or into a way of playing in previous matches and they've gotten away with it. He'd set himself that he expected Swansea to play a diamond. Now, I actually think this game was a very good test for us because eventually, in something that Andy has said previously, teams are going to look at that three-four, two-one system, a three-four, one-two system, whatever it is, and look to how do we counteract it. And I thought Gary Monk to his credit, he did it very well. We set the diamond up that way and get into the way he played. Because essentially, all they did was by putting the diamond in there, they let us come down and the boy, dealt with whatever was going into the box, and then we didn't have the space behind the space in front of there back for it to get the two boys standing and continue and ended up in the land and continue to bounce around and they just didn't have space because there was always a player there. So I wouldn't criticise him there. My only thought was that maybe he could have changed a little bit earlier, and I know he changes it at half time. I know that happens, right? I don't know how that'll change, to be fair. He sees that's not working. Yeah. He changes it. And that's not having a pop in him. He has the players on the pitch to change shape earlier, if he needs being, and going back to something new, Pills said there about, you know, Joe's, I used to get lauded for changing tactics. I think he used to get lauded because he changed tactics so early in games. He wasn't afraid to make a substitution at the twenty-five minutes, or he wasn't afraid to change completely to shape after twenty, twenty minutes in a game because it clearly wasn't working. And I thought that maybe in the forest half, yeah, it's a very light criticism, it's not something that I'm going to beat him over the head with or anything like that. But I think with Emory Chan there, he wasn't having a particularly good game where he was, and he seemed to target him with Gummy's that was there. But I thought there was a time when I thought to myself, you know what, actually if he pushed Chan into the centre of the fence like that, where he can step in and become an auxiliary midfielder and allow them to go to a diamond and have the lads, you know, Skirtland and Sacco to play more as Orthodox centrebacks at times, maybe we would have got more possession and more ownership of the ball because, again, it would have pushed Henderson and Allen that little bit further and would have nullified the effect of their diamond. Well, look, that's just watching the game and that's looking at it and thinking to yourself, you know, is there something we could do here? He did event, he does go and do that in the second half and we reap the rewards because of it because we totally dominate the second table. We absolutely crucified them in the second half, we just put them to bed, they just offered nothing against us. And again, it goes back to his nice and cynical, wasn't it, it was really well managed. The other bit that I think maybe, you know, that needs to be looked at and needs to be asked, and it's one, I'm sure, he'll ask himself, by putting the storage in, going back to the idea of the mobile front tree, when we didn't have a recognised striker in storage of the land and container that was playing, they just ran everywhere, constantly, right? And as much as I know, we've laughed and joked about storage having a dump on the pitch once your score is, it doesn't really matter, but he's not scoring at the moment. And he isn't putting in the same effort as the other two boys do. So when you take that bit of pressing away at the top end, you know, the real hard pressing that's going on, it just allows their back four to be a bit more comfortable, because you could see storage trying to press it, but he doesn't press it, he's not aggressive in the way that he presses the defenders, whereas the legs are sterling and the land are continuing. You could even see it in the fourth half, when we do land in decent up to top end, you tend to be either a continue or a sterling or a land and sterling, going and really aggressively pressing their back, the two or three defenders that run the ball at the time. So that's the only things, but overall, his performance last night was that if a manager where if you see it, say, that's brilliant, he's identified the floor, he's identified the weakness and he's executed the game plan the way he wanted to execute and executed brilliantly, because it got us into the game, it got us something in the game where it nobody, I don't know, be honest with you, I don't think anybody thought it was going to come. The only thing is the goal, like he does direct the goal from the sideline, like, you know what I mean, it was pointed out, I know it was pointed out and scoring out, but you can see him, you know, and that's that's that's real sort of a real sort of coach, you know, I've gone away from the manager, but like a real coach, he's seen the things he wants him to do, something he's asked him to execute, and he's even in-game coaching, going back to Nioh's earlier show, it's very raffet as well, because raffet used to constantly coach when he was telling people where to go, I want you here, I want you there, but Brendan, as we all know, Brendan's a very good attacking coach, so if he wants to coach attacking while he's on the sideline in games like that, and it leads to goals, fucking coach away, coach away, do that as much as you want, because it's brilliant to look at, you know, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair, fair. I really enjoyed the last four minutes of the game, where we basically killed it, stone dead, and took throw in, it was wonderful, and fair and storage contributed more than he did. And as I said at the time, the one thing I'd say about that was, that was the best killing of a game I've seen in about four over six years, boy, I live up here with him, that no stage in those last few minutes that I think we were going to try all the way, I do something to shoot the movie, which is something that we've, you know, as little people found, we've got a new studio that's going to be fucking hairy, scaredy over the last four minutes of games if we've got a narrow lead. Yeah, absolutely. Well, look, let's take it on, have a look at a few of the players, and I suppose we'll start with the captain, captain, fantastic. Mr. Henderson, Neil, when you're looking at this player, he does seem to have a hell of a lot going on. People like to talk about his limitations, but he started to prove those people wrong. If you're looking at him and comparing them, so a shorthand way for people to understand them, is he not like Jared at all? Is he more like Frank Lampard in the way that he operates? I mean, even the goal, you know, it's a lovely, long-person role, well-timed and, you know, a deflection, flooky, looking finish, you know, that he just drives in classic Lampard, really, isn't it? I mean, if he gets the goal, staff, Frank Lampard gets that, and more than that, for the year, the comparison is to be there. I don't think Frank Lampard has probably got the physique similar around the same way his aim and the same as, well, yeah, if he's there, but they say it's ours, which has been ridicule Lampard, and there's always the comparison between him and Jared, you know, he is obviously a good player, and he's scored a hell of a lot of goals over the years, so it does anything out of his game. You can take the terms of not arriving on the ball later. I mean, again, I don't know if that's just a bit of a Chelsea thing. I remember Joe Colos, he's got loads of spawning holes when he played for Chelsea, but you never actually gotten when he played for us. So, yeah, he couldn't fucking braid when he was playing for us, I know, yeah, yeah. So, I wouldn't say, what I wouldn't say per se, he's more like Frank Lampard and Stephen Gerard, but I would say, if he's got some of those facets to his game, then I'm more than happy from the two after him, certainly. On his performance, I heard someone say, kind of somewhat up nicely, he did kind of neuter himself a little bit with the air in the yellow, didn't he? In terms of putting himself about and the level of intensity that we expect and the challenges from him, it did kind of take another way away from his performance, certainly, in that first half, I think. Yeah, I mean, it was one of those games where sometimes you can spot, you know, within the first five minutes of the game, you've been, oh, fuck, now what's going on here with him? Because, I mean, you know, we kicked Shelby in the face and then he's just a given way to preach it. Oh, you know, on the edge of the box, he was losing the ball all the time, and it was one of those that literally within the fair few minutes, you're thinking, George is not on it today at all, but I don't, I've got a feeling that it's hard to say with Henderson, I'd like to say that the yellow wouldn't actually bother him, but just as he was supposed to say that, I've just actually fall back to, obviously, descended off that he got last season against Man's City. You know, there's a horrific sort of experiences out of getting two yellows and getting sent off and towards the end of the season. So I don't know if that is at the back of his mind, it wasn't in my mind, I've literally just remembered it as a spoken opponent there. So, you know, maybe you've got a point of four, you would always be thankful for all of that, you know, any soundtrack. As a professional football, you just get on with the fact that you've got a yellow. I mean, he's got the type of player that dives, I think it's low to yellows anyway. So, yeah, yeah, we may have muted him to some extent, but I'll figure with his shift to be honest to the first half of it, like the rest of them were. Yeah, and he won't about that, though, just basically like the rest of the team, and as you said earlier on, the whole lot were off the pace and then he picks it up in a second as well. Yeah, well, he sort of did. I don't think there was a performance in the team, apart from Meg's fourth half and Sacco and Sterling's second half. Yeah, you wouldn't give him the Joe Allen, though. I think Allen got a hell of a lot of price, but to me, the stand there once were Sterling and Sacco's second half performances. Allen was terrible in the fourth half, like terrible, terrible, like, you know, terrible, terrible, really, really bad. But yeah, now I appreciate it. He was, he was, he was excellent in the left-hand side of the diamond. He was in fairness to him, and he went on a couple of meals that were just very unlike, showed a little bit extra to his game, you know, when he was in the box and he was the winner of the hell and everything. So, no offense. Yeah, he was. Yeah, I take that back. Allen as well. That could be a podcast first. I'm going to move on before that goes wrong. On that idea of top performances, Neil, we did have some contenders there for our amount in the match, Andy's highlighted them there, and Minile was tremendous. Sacco was tremendous. Skirtle had a decent game for himself, Joe Allen, also, and who else do you imagine? Oh, he felt Sterling in the second half. I would fully agree to that. I thought Sterling was wonderful when he went to that, that, changed the position. Who for you will stand up? Over the course of that match, you'll be very, over the course of that was 90 minutes. We very had to give it to anyone else by Mingle. I'm really sure we wouldn't have been in this, we wouldn't, no matter how much we turned around the second half, we wouldn't have been in the game anyway. So, like, you can say, like, his saves were more important than, as important as a goal in the fourth half anyway. So, we wouldn't have the opportunity to go back only for him. And then, on from that, um, Skirtle has been remarkably impressive over the last, or the last good few months now, I know it's probably not a very popular thing to say, but I mean, you can't deny the fact he's been excellent. And then it's, it's to do with settling into the back tree and having the two other guys either side of them. Sorry, yeah, your negatives are negated a little bit. I know that's probably a double negative, but anyway, but yeah, like, so he's been really, really impressive for me. Rock solid, I'd say, in fact, no, I know his distribution isn't great. Sometimes his headers don't go where that's quite disposable. But as a defender, he's doing really, really well, mainly we know he's going to dive in and yeah, he's in and out sometimes, but he's been really, really impressive for me. You know, I have to say. What about, well, he gets a little bit extra credit for being go-jestic considering that Emory Chandler is slightly off the boil on his right hand today, which is unusual for him. Yeah, well, actually, Cam was, that was probably his worst game for us, maybe. Was it in my opinion, I think, for us anyway? He was isolated as well, wasn't he? He was, and the fourth half they picked, well, I said he picked on, and that sounds really good. He picked on them. He picked on them. No, but you and your hair. Taking your cars. Taking your cars is there. What do you think your cars is? Ah-ha, I'm going to try and pick down. Have you ever had a fucking hair done, anything like the abuse that the Swansea fans have? Well, given sake, it was hilarious. Yeah, but come on, he didn't snap, so he'd have not liked it, but he just kept getting better and better. He just kept getting better and better. Like, where's that even cold for? How'd that be in a previous incident? No, we wanted to be dating a couple of shit-tings in the forest couple of minutes in possession. It's the first two touches with Daji, and as a result, they went, "Ah, with Daji." I wasn't even going to do it. Do you see when they were slagging them off, and he basically just ran past everyone, and then just laid off. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I suppose got, I suppose got, talking about looking at the stand-out performance, the defense in the Skirtland's Sacco and Minua Dao's tree there, they had to make up for a chant, having a bad game. Now, many times, though, in the fourth half of the season, you know, one of them was having a bad game, it inevitably led to the rest coming down to their level, instead of retaining their level, and bringing them back to their level, as opposed to just a bad far, yeah. So, it's a big thing, there's a bit of mental character there now that wasn't there before, and fair play to them, because I think the team themselves understand that these are constant Muslim games, it's the Al Kliche, every single game they're playing, there's a cup for them at this stage, you know. So, it's a credit to both Sacco and Skirtle that they retained their concentration, retained everything that was going on, and kept us going on, because you could even see, you know, they were looking for those paths into midfield, and because Alan and Henderson weren't able to get torn and get on the ball and help with the outballs and move us into different phases of play, they never lasted, like, that's a credit. You don't know if love rum is in there, what are you kept it together? What it does show is that, you know, maybe at last Brendan has identified that he knows what his fourth choice back three years, right, but putting Sacco straight back in for the most win game against Swansea, it just shows you, I think he's definitely come up in terms of you know, Brendan's estimation of how good he is and what he brings to the team, and similarly, like, putting Chan back in there, I know it wasn't his best game, but he didn't take him off either, the easy thing could have been to take him off a half time and bring Lovren in, or even bring your man in. Talk to me about how would you respond to this as Emory's biggest fanboy, Herschel was wondering, Herschel Maury says, could somebody explain how Lovren snuck out of a field at Emory Chan's kit, which I think is a little bit of a harsh assessment of Emory's performance, but you can see where he's gone. He was such an atypical performance. Listen to me, right, every player is going to go through peaks and troughs, every player is going to have a bad game here and there, right, and Chan had a bad game, and eventually it was going to happen, he can't keep having blinders all the time. You know, he had a bad game, but he was credit, I'd say it again, second half, pulled a sock, so got his levels back and played out the game well and stopped being a weakness down, that's why. So, you know, I really think that, you know, when we talk about the man that matched performance, it's very hard to give based on one person in the fourth half, and I actually think Joe Allen did very well throughout the game. I didn't think his pass was great in the fourth half, but what he did was he was a bundle of energy where Henderson was flailing, he picked up the water, he carried it all and kept going and kept going. He kept going, his one, two half his face at the end of the day, that was awesome. That's what we're going to say. The look, the look is shocked when it hits his face. He flicks his arm and is like, well, that wasn't meant to happen. Show him on your midget, but, you know, what, genuine, I think, for him as well, it's, you know, we talked about it, that it generally takes a bit of time to come back, even if he's not only had a minor injury, well, fair play, he came back in, kept his standards and got us passing right in the second half, and a lot of those help with the change in shape, but, you know, mini-lay, he didn't have much to do in fairness at the second half, his distribution is still a bit, but, you know, his save, the save that he makes from secrets and shot is world-class. It's absolutely world-class, he's full stretch, the force, I'll be honest with you, as a goalkeeper, I wasn't jumping up and down to go to force him because you'd expect to save that one. It comes, it's not travelling like a bullet, it's coming at a nice speed and it gives it enough time to get down and react to it and he's able to get back open and cover it off the second half. But the secrets and shot comes around the player and he has to really adjust his feet and get over to it and it's a fantastic save. And he gets two hands, so, yeah, which is, yeah, yeah. And it wasn't just the amazing saves, he was punching fuck out across. But he's doing a few corners. I'll go back to it. Fantastic. And that's what we said about him before, he's approached the second half. Since he's been trapped, he's really played like a fellow with nothing to lose and it's freedom as a player. It's freedom's performance levels, he's no longer afraid to try something or do something or, you know, where he might have been second-guessed himself about, well, I don't want to make a mistake. The self-doubt was gone. And I think that comes from being, he knew that he was out the door at Christmas. If you know what I mean, he knew he was basically going to see at the end of the season if he didn't sign someone in January and then it was probably number two at come to summer time. But because he's put himself with that carefree attitude, what would be interesting to see is if we come around and we don't sign and say I recognize number one, right? How he reacts to us in another goalkeeper that puts him under pressure where he might start then second-guessing about what he's doing and making sure he's being safe. But on that form, he's worth points to us like he was last year. Yeah, yeah. On that form. Now, it's not that his kicking is still so laughably shite, I was actually enjoying how awful it was because he was so good, otherwise, you know? If Mengele had been in the form he's in now towards coming at this stage last year, he was the one that he... Yeah. He wasn't, like, he's at a higher level now than he has been at any time at Liverpool, like he's better than he had. He's a better goalkeeper than I taught you at that point. What he's still now, which is a huge departure from where he was for the fourth, say, 18 months, he was at Liverpool, because he's dominating this box. Forget the distribution. He's dominating, as he said, he's called for every cross and he's getting to them, right? It's not that he's just coming and trying to handle whatever. He's getting to them, 90% of the cross that he's calling for, and he's making a talent interaction across the action. Cross-cross the action, yeah. And that's made such a big difference. And you can see his starting position is much higher in the box. When you look now, he's not afraid to be up around the edge of his box where before he was sitting on a six-yard line, so it was a big distance to make up. He's coming out, he's outside the box. And it was even a time last night, he was miles outside the box at one stage. And you're just saying, right, that's what you wanted him to do. That's what, when we were asking, when we wanted to see him improve, that's exactly what we look for him to improve at. So, you know, it's great to see Longmay continue. And had he been on the match last night, it would have been well, well deserved. Purely on that save alone from Seagerson. But the other stuff that goes on, but pure on that save alone from Seagerson, that's a torn up point in the match when he makes that sound. Absolutely. Neil, another man whose name is getting thrown around there is what's Mamaloo Sacco. Now, we had a couple of comments in from listeners talking about, you know, if we ran out of something to talk about, we could also always talk to Chris about the level of arousal achieved when Sacco glowed past the whole Swansy side, which one of the lads mentioned a few minutes ago. And we had another one in from a red mentality saying, "How can you explain the media's endless criticism of Sacco, even though he's becoming one of our biggest assets?" Now, it was funny to see the media, general media reaction being echoed in the Swansy crowd, but by God, he really did silence them as the match went on, don't he? Yeah, I mean, the media thing is just ridiculous. It's almost like, and I suppose you get this with fans and we all do it and we do it about ourselves as, you know, our own scapegoat and everything. But if you spend months and months and months saying, "That's the one, she has him ridiculing them." And if you're doing it publicly on television, then a lot of these pundits aren't all of us, they're going to tear around and say, "Oh, I was wrong." So they're like, "They just go silent on it." Well, they're not, he's actually given the credits that is deserved. I mean, I don't think he was quite as great as people were making out when he first came. I think how he's playing now, when I was playing since Christmas, it's by far the best we've seen of him. And it's probably the level that is fans who just supported him regardless of how he was playing. 40 was played, but he's being absolutely brilliant now. And this whole thing about an awkward style and things, I mean, I don't even know just that, to be honest. I'm not really sort of, you know, seeing, it's not something I'm particularly looking out for. And it's almost like, because everyone says all the time, it's got this awkward style, you find yourself going, "Oh, yeah, Sacco's got an awkward style, but I haven't actually noticed it themselves." No, it's a force that the forced agenda now really is. Yeah, it's absolutely ridiculous, but I mean, going back to something that Neil said, I think that, in regards to scale, I mean, everyone seems to be keen, well, not everyone, you know, that's a bit of a generalization, but there's a tendency to go, right, Sacco's the best, you know, is the defender that's making a difference. Ciarne is the defender that's making a difference. I think scale is being just as good as Sacco and Ciarne. I think that's free as a unit of being exceptional. I think the way they used to marry together and also with me, you're like, "So, is that backfall?" I think that's definitely a case of, you know, sums being grated in the whole of the past. And I think Sacco is a part of that, as Sacco's being absolutely excellent. Well, I think what's good about the way that unit works, well, is that even when Sacco was injured and loathing came in, because it's taken along nicely, and I was like, "It's just like a machine pairing along." It's like you could even put someone like loathing, who obviously isn't still level of Sacco, and we still never can see that that many goals, or you can make a change. You could put Johnson in there for a small amount of time, and like, you know, the world has been flowed, even though we all expected it to, you know what I mean? So, I just, with that, then that backfall, including Mingulate, is, it's been absolutely revelation, and Sacco, yeah, is a key part of that. But, I mean, I'd give the credit as well to the scale in China. And Mingulate, I think all of them together would be absolutely exceptional. And for me, I just wouldn't want to see that broke up at all now. However, I would be confident that if one does get injured, that it's not going to be the end of the world, which is what we've seen in the last few weeks. Yeah, yeah, that is, that is encouraging. To go to the far end of the park, we're talking about what's working well in the defensive part of the pitch. What's working not so well in the attacking part of the pitch, we've spoken about briefly flag it up there. It's Danny Sturge. He is struggling. There's no two ways about it, and it's hard to know whether it's fitness, or form, or combination of both. Was he really unfortunate with that effort at the end, or did you find yourself like me kind of cursing him that he didn't take something a little bit more simple on than what appeared to be a very ambitious effort? But overall, talk to me about Sturge. Yeah, again, it was just one of those poor games. There was part of, especially in the second half, which he did impress me. He was adding something else that, you know, okay, this isn't coming out, where he's on the lead strike, or on his post, the responsibilities here, the scar goes. He was coming short a lot, and he was coming out with Roy, Roy, and he was just being a team player. You know, just getting on the ball, moving around, trying to find his feet. Look, Sturge knows that chances are going to come from him. He might be enforcing a bit lately. He wants to be the man. That's what he's all about. It's not going to work that way. He's not going to just walk back into the team and just be the man. Like, Liverpool got themselves back to this level, without him, with Sterling, Coutinho, LaLana, whoever, up back a bit across the top. You might just need to start thinking a bit more like down players. Sturge is well able to pull himself a bit. He's well able to come from different positions. We've seen a lot last season, you know, when Suarez was in the team, and you had to get one, they're going to do a healthy accommodate to Bolton, because Bolton obviously preferred to play through the middle. But when Sturge had to play with it, he'd done it quite well. So he's just going to have to deal that now. It's because it's happened before LaLana. He's come back and been immediately effective. And people are hoping that that would be the case again. Yeah, we might have been playing a different way at the time. Like, you know, when Liverpool start playing well, but if they start going to the levels, they wear last season. Where the Blonde teams were early. Where they were really like a frightened team. Because I still don't think teams are coming to play. They were feeling being frightened. I think most teams are coming along thinking we can put this round to an end. Whereas last season, there was a stage where teams were just, didn't know what to do. Yeah. To a fold, nearly on. So when Liverpool come back out, if they do, where there's a lot of, you know, we're getting a lot of ball on the final tour. And he's getting more space, and teams are frightened and standing off. Storage is going to score goals. But how much of us not being as frightened as we were is down to the fact that maybe he's not operating anywhere near at this level. Like, I mean, to shun the responsibility back on to him for a bit to play devil's advocate. Is it because he's underperforming that we are effectively less effective? I think I don't know. It's because he's only back so long. Yeah. It's hard to know. Like, we said last week that he seems to be holding something back. He's afraid, I think he's afraid, that he might be out. He find himself out of the team for rest of the season. I didn't think it's performed. So it was poor. But I don't think it's, I still see every game. A common armour-smarting. Do you? Yeah. I mean, I actually think the game the weekend could suit him. But I probably wouldn't play him. Because it's too, it's... Because other players have been playing too well. Okay. I think tactically, you know, the best thing to do would be to probably not play him. But I actually do think it could be the game that would suit him. Okay. Well, we'll definitely come to you and your money down and come back to it. We're doing pretty good. Thank you. Just on storage's effort. Oh, that's fantastic, wasn't it? Did you think so? Yeah, well, they wanted to hit the post. I genuinely didn't think it was fantastic at all. I think for storage in terms of storage, so rather than his shot to hit the post at the end of the match, I think it's probably mentioned before. He's a lad playing with the injury on the back of his mind. I mean, I don't think that's... You reckon that's clear, do you? I think it's crystal clear. Because of the very nature of the type of footballer that he is, that he works in explosive movements and his physiological makeup. If he doesn't recover proper from this injury, it could see an end to his career playing at that level. I mean, challenging for championships, Champions League, international level. I mean, he could drop down and play at a lower level. But he hasn't got that explosiveness in his game. He's effectively hit that. The finer points of his games are going to disappear. So not only is he struggling to come back from injury, he's struggling. He's so careful that he doesn't want to ruin the rest of his career. I think that's... To me, it's playing to see that's on his mind. Because he doesn't look to me like a lad who has sprinted at 100% since he's come back. Yeah, yeah, further, so I think that's... So, then, just to go back to his chance at the end of the match, I thought it was... I suppose you could say it looked lazy, but I didn't think that. I thought it was a bit of a bit of genius. I don't know what it is, and it's not lazy, but... If he scores, it brings back the others about him shitting on the pitch and then just scores. It does. It does. Yeah, it's just... It's that thing about... It was a great... I thought it was great. Again, I think he's been reowned by Moreno, dancing with him. You reckon that's what did it? Yeah. I think he looked to be back and far until Moreno decided to jump in on the dance. So, Moreno's folded up. He's getting away with more than actually Moreno. He's been shit lately. Yeah, he has. I tell you what, I wouldn't have taken him off. I would have taken him off before Moreno. I think Moreno had started to come into the game and decide not. That's... He's the last Sacred Horse. I'm telling you, he's the last Sacred Horse. He is the last Sacred Horse. There's something really sacred about him. He's taking the Sacred Horses. He's speaking the Sacred Horses. He liked that for a segue. Look at little... He's talking to me about Stevie J. He's talking about... He's talking about Captain Blackbeard. He's talking to me. He's talking to me. He's talking to me. He's talking to me. Fuck off from your heart. Talk to me. Talk to me about Stephen Jared Impact. So, we've been calling out for a long time. Listen. Did you see it working well there? I said at the start of the season. Did you say it? Did you say it? I did fucking say it at the start. And if I didn't, I taught it at the start of the season. I said it. You taught it. You taught it. But, you know, that's exactly what we want them. So, get them on at 62 minutes. It was two minutes later. 62 minutes at the time. Yeah. Yeah. It was two minutes later. You know, he comes on. The thing we don't drive for me was that he could always put into 25 minutes at true this season. And then his legs seem to go on. I'm just... It's pure age thing. You know what I mean? You're asking to play in Santa Feer. Oh, it's hard to... When he appeared in Santa Feer, I was like, "Oh, no." But then you could see he's able to get around for those 24, 26 minutes that he's on the pitch. He's able to put it in. He sees what's going on. He... Of all our midfielders, he was the one that's able to face a pass along the ground, right? If you look at all the passes up until then, even continue, was floating passes out to Lad's feet, right? But if you face it along the ground, you know what I mean? It just moves. It moves. It's so much quicker. I mean, instead, you're open play open. You can keep the movement going. Did you see that coming? Did you see him coming and sitting deep? I did not see that coming. I didn't see it coming, but I did. If I was... I always felt that, you know, whatever... If he came on in the front tree, or if he came on as the attacking midfielder, for 24 minutes, you're going to get an absolute blunderbusser of him. And again, he comes on and he showed another level that, you know, he's fully there. He's fully tuned in. He has what he needs to do for those for a straight to time. And as I said to you, when you bring Stephen Gerard off the bench, the mental impact, going back to Andy's bit about, you know, blasting teams away, teams are looking at that and they're saying, bollocks. Here's Gerard for 24 minutes. What? You know, no matter what's going to happen, he could step up and crack a free kick to the top corner. He might just pull one out of his locker from nowhere. But it hobbles your chaos teary when it comes on deep, doesn't it? It does hobble it. It does, and it doesn't, because as Andy said, to bring the chaos teary back in, we went in with the grenade formation at that point. It was hot, didn't it? It was hot. It was hot. You see what happens? It's the new ones. There's a pin on at the top of it, right? But it genuinely, you know, it was the night. And I hope he's used that way towards the end for the rest of the season, because I think he offers us so much, doing those small cameo roles, that he could have a huge big impact. And it also, for Henderson, I know he didn't have a particularly great game, but he had a much better second half. But it retains his authority on the pitch. I know he hands the iron bag to Gerard, but it's not that, you know, people are still, he's still the go-to man then for the start, for the games when they kick off, and he's still the man that's leading the team out into the pitch, and it's allowing him to grow mentally as a captain. I'm not saying that as a player, but as a captain, he's feeling that, well, actually, you know, I'm the on-page captain. And he has the impact. Well, Steve is the club captain. I fully accept that when he comes on, I give him the handband. But I'm the fellow who leads this team out, and it's me who's going to be responsible for this kicking off right in the right way. So, you know, that's Gordon. I always do like saying, I continue to use him that way. I think he brings us so much when you bring him that way. There's no harm in it. You know what I mean? We get to you, Steve and Gerard, to his fullest potential for his remaining time at the club. Well, look, we'll talk about Steven and whether he should start or not against United in the preview. But I just want to finish out on this topic. And before we go to the last little one, and just by asking you, Neil, for your thoughts on the idea of Gerard as an impact sub for the rest of the season, because we've talked about it on here. But be interesting, get your take. I think he's perfect for the impact sub because of the diversity he's got. I mean, it's not even the case that you bring him on to play in one position. Like you just said there, you didn't expect him to be put where he was put. I think he played so well there because it's essentially the position he played well in in the second half of last season. Yeah, you know, the deep line thing. But what you've got there, I mean, you've never thought that we'd think of Steve and Gerard as an utility player. But as a sub, that's exactly what he is. In terms of if we need to get a goal, you could put him in a front frame. We could put him high up in the midfields. We could put him in a hold in position like we did. It's almost like, you know, you've got like, you set up three players in one there when you bring Gerard on. Now, I don't think you'd be able to, we know that maybe you can't do it quite for the nice few minutes. But for a half an hour, if you've essentially got one player on the pitch who can play a number of positions and therefore, depending on the way the game has gone and what is needed in that game, he will pretty much, unless I mean, he lays down this shit game or something. He's not going to do it there. But pretty much, he could at least be a solution for a problem. Whether it will work every time or not. I'm not too sure. But as he's shown that for us as career, as he like, you know, he ends up right back in his stand ball. And there's always the thought that whatever position he would play, he would be the best player in that position on the pitch. But he's not that quite that player anymore. But he's still got that impact. And also what you said about this. I think we'll use sides sometimes. This is the impact Steve and Gerard has on all the teams and all the fans is that I think we've been spent so long the last two years going on about how he's not to play. He was. Is that you've got to remember not everybody else watches him. We have a lot of other people. He is still Steve and Gerard that he was. So, you know, he's a psychological tool as well. Yeah, obviously. Yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, good on him. But I wouldn't be starting for the rest of the season. I would be using him as an impact. No matter how much I love him. And I sort of wanted to see him as many times as I can before he goes. I think it's better for the team as he is used as a sub, yeah. Yeah. I'm speaking of utility players. Everyone's kind of utility player on the brand and Rogers. It seems to be. But there's another utility player coming off the bench towards the end of the match with a 100% statistic at Mountus Glen Johnson. How do you like them apples? I don't like them apples. I mean, I don't know. It's just like, it's just mad. It's just mad. I don't know. He's a psychological tool as well. I don't know why he insists on Johnson. You'd have anyone in the team. I had them just sick at this stage. You know, everyone started thinking he'd be gone in the summer. All this playing, I'm just sort of suggest what I was. Yeah. No need to be playing. Phil, you wanted to come in and look at this. Yeah, yeah. I was from 100% passing. And it was one pass. Well, I came and stayed. It was 100%. A lot of pass. A lot of pass. It went all over the tree yards. Yeah. You know, it's just like, it is an improvement. The ball was in the far corner of the pitch. So, like, there was never any chance of even getting on the ball. It was basically starting a storage up in the far corner. You know, I would have brought Lauren on sooner in that there. Even there as a wing back than somebody that's not going to be there next year. Because I don't care. I don't think even if Brendan wants to keep him, I think the club has made the decision that he's gone. Yeah. You know what I mean? His agent is out today saying that they're speaking to other clubs. Yeah. So, you know, the sooner he's gone, the better because it just puts this whole conversation to bed. It does, yeah. Even though he is now on 100% passing. Yeah. It was funny as interesting. His agent said that I was listening to it at Allen Park. He spoke to it as a light show. It doesn't matter. His agent said today, yeah, we're really thinking about going to Rambo. But we haven't spoken to them and they haven't spoken to us. So, I don't know what I mean. Exactly. He can say anything. He's going to go and play in the NFL, isn't he? We haven't touched spoke to anyone better. So, I was killed. Could he play in the NFL? What position could he play? Right wing back. He could play in any position. Any position. A punter. A punter? No. A punter. No, no, no. I don't know if I got American football to kind of put them somewhere. I think he might be just better after. That was so young. One place you wouldn't have been in safety. That's what I'm sure earlier. Neil, to finish this off and finish our review off, the result was a very enjoyable result. Even if the match wasn't an enjoyable match to watch, we're pretty relieved at the end of it. It was, to go back full circle, the best seeing out of the game that we've actually seen as we've put fans in quite a while, it reminded older chaps like myself and Casey there of the 80s. It was lovely, beautifully cynical and just a nice way to calmly finish a game. Yeah, it was never in doubt. Sure it was. No. And we've been criticizing stories for being a little bit lazy, but he was in transit too, wasn't he? Yeah. I mean, he kept possession great. I know it was all down in the corner and let's get a one-minute away. That's what it was. Just onesie, but that's what you want to do. That's what you want to do. I mean, but that's the game after CD. Who did we play after that? We won two, Neil. I can't remember. That was similar. We never looked in doubt from the force-minute straight. I mean, so that's a character trait that's developing in the team and it all comes stems from the reliability at the back and we do like be fair, we have a good chance we're not going to concede here. So that momentum, if you want to throw that character has been building up for a couple of weeks. Now, I know I may have throw it off in the cup match, but don't mind the FA Cup, it's ridiculous. I'm not having the favourite competition. So the fact that we closed it, that steely mentality, there's been signs of that growing throughout the team anyway. But it was brilliant to just close out like that and just say, this isn't going to use me. Just blow it up, ref. That's what you would have heard a few years ago. All right, blow it up. I'll blow up the review then. Oh, segue. Yes. And we are. Okay, let's look forward to what many people see as the biggest game of the season, the visit of United, especially when there's so much riding on it, hard not to be incredibly tense about this one. So there come their place. Anything apart from a loss is probably a good result for them. Can we start off, Neil, with you analysing in great detail how a team is shot as United can be stumbling towards Champions League with so much momentum? I don't watch them, so that has to be honest. I know, but literally I can't abide them. I feel queasy watching them. So I don't really watch any other teams other than Liverpool. So I only really see them when they play us. So if you want to have the analysis, it's down to a formations philosophy, tactics, that big clipboard van girls girl, I don't know, maybe they're not as bad as we think. I don't know. See, what are these bad, I mean, they're also muddy dispense, they're over 100 million or whatever, and what they're paying in wages, all I could assume is that some of that quality most people, not Falcal, the rest of them, some of that quality, most just be coming through. Yeah, sorry, go on. As I say, I think the league is that bad. I mean, there is a lot of trust, and if you look at it pretty much, that's what the movie talks about since Christmas is everyone that we're competing with is at that same run, and it's almost like all the shit teams has dropped off at the same time, and all the ones who have been competing for the Champions League spot have found a level, and they've been on those sides, whether even Southampton and Spurs. I mean, I wouldn't get too excited about, I mean, I never saw the game, but I wouldn't get too excited about them being in Spurs. I mean, we'd dick them the last four times on the trot, and they're very good at it, to be honest. If they've gone from being a bogey team of us, it's one that you would gladly play every week. Yeah. So, I'm not really too much into the fact that, man, it's a beat, Spurs, who are chefs at home. It doesn't worry me, and you'll probably want me predictions and later, but I'm not too concerned about them, because, well, I haven't seen them, so I don't know what to be scared off, to be honest. Yeah. Andy, poorly there with some shaveringly good analysis of football that he's never watched. So that's particularly good day-tripper stuff. I'm going to come to you about United as a force. I'm going to imagine that you've seen a bit of it. Is it actually what Neil Paul is saying around there, that there's enough of their good players actually coming good enough of the time for them to be where they are? Is that what it's all about? Just the quality? No, I mean, like, when you think about the money they spent there, like, the MRA is going to pop into your head, no file count. It's not these quality players that are seeing them throughout, it's very hard to put your finger in it. Like, they were so bad around the time they bashed us well, they didn't bash us, you know, we put them, but they beat us training. They were so bad then, but, like, looking at them a bit lately, the sports games the first time they impressed me this season. I thought they were brilliant down the fourth half, I thought sports rolled over a little bit. They went back to start playing a back four there, you know, the way the fans were chanting. So tactics, that guy went back to a flat back four, and it seems to be walking out when they play a dime, and sometimes they play two of top wave on Parisian file count and Ronie and behind their lately Ronie on top on his own. So I'd say, like, playing us, they'll probably play Ronie on top on his own and play a dime in there, some sort of a far two, three, one, something like that, they're not, they're not a team we should be scared of, they, maybe his name says they have decent players. We all know Manchester, you know, they have decent players, but Van Gallus far from you to Lewis and them decent players, they're way better than he is getting them. Okay. So while he's there, as long as he's there, and with more, is there a huge opportunities for which was blown away, because Rodgers is a bit of manager, I don't know. He has, it's, they're ugly at the moment, like, and, I mean, listen to man, you know, it fans there, I think they're in a kind of a denial, like, you know, they, they lend matey of that, they're not happy, but they think just because it's not Moias, that this is better. And because he's brought, introduced all these quality players that things are, things are on the improvement. But I don't think that points, isn't that a hell of a lot better, maybe, maybe there's four of our six points better off, anywhere this day is last, he's not too sure. Well, concern, well, concerns me about them is, and I'd echo this sentence, any time I've watched them, it's generally been against teams that you expect them to be, and they've struggled to beat them, or haven't, or they'll drop points, right? But the games that I've watched them in, you know, the bigger matches say, it looks against Chelsea and Arsenal and stuff like that, they're level scenes that have come up with three or four or five levels from where they've been playing outright, and they've gotten results out of it. I think they've got the best role, best set of results against the teams in the top six out of four. Yeah, yeah. Out of anyone else. So, you know, that's my concern, because when I look back at everyone, and we talked about everyone in February, where it was all the hard teams, you're saying, "Jesus, that's a really hard run of fixtures, and we need to do well," and that, like, they're facing the same. We went loads of conference off the sports game, and as you said, look, they don't need to win. If they, once they don't lose, they're still two points clear of us, right? They're still top four, they're still two points clear of us, it's running out. The games running out, and it's still in their hands, and they're halfway true, they're really hard, spelled in terms of matches, and known that we then have to go to Arsenal and Chelsea still as well. So, there's potentially two games where we could drop points. So, I'm looking at the saying, you know, for us, looking at them, they're going to come in, they're going to come in full of conference, not so much in terms of the start of football or the playing, but of the run of fun that they've had in the big games, and they're not going to be fairing at all. And the one thing about fun, Halen, you know, he sort of confused me, because for a guy who was being so tactically adept over the course of his career and has had teams playing relatively good football wherever he's gone, probably with the exception of Halen in the World Cup, but now you're knighted in terms of the way they're playing as well, it seems very strange, but he will have looked at that Swansea game. He will look at how the game plan that they implemented against us, and he will look to replicate that with the players that he has, and it probably suits his team better in terms of setting up that way in a diamond with the midfielders, et cetera, he has to try to go and replicate what Swans he did, but with better quality up front and better quality attacker-wise in terms of the individual players they have. So there's always going to be a threat there in a fair there in terms of them coming and scraping results, or fluking results, or getting something out again, which we think, if you're to stack the two teams up, stack the four and open, stack the way the team's been playing since Christmas, we should be clear winners on one and clearly out. But do you actually think you'll do that as opposed to going to the default setting of the game? No, I think he will, because that's the type of years. He may go to the default setting for the last 24 minutes or something if he wants to go and win the game, or he wants to get a go back or something like that, you know what I mean? But a genuinely thing, just looking at him, that he will have seen the Swans he game plan and said, "They may have tweaked this, they may have tweaked this tree at the back forum and field system." And it would be interesting to see how Brendan has then counteracting against the fella, who will look the changes in play in terms of, and will look to change his tactics around, and if we change, then he'll look to change it again to try to create new spaces and new opportunities against us if we go to a diamond. So I think it's going to be fascinating. I fucking hate this match. I hate this match more than any game in the year. I think it's especially in ours team, because the majority of Irish football fans are already in our Liverpool, and when you walk into your job, it's one of the other, and it's always in your face when things don't work out, and that tree nail at Christmas just fucking killed me like you know what I mean? Because we weren't even bad in the day, we could have easily come out with a tree I'll draw with the amount of chances, clear chances that we had against the guy in the whole lot. So I'm already coiled up like a fucking wild spring thinking about this match, and it's like, just get us to win, get us to win, get our noses in front, get the fucking win, get it into our hands for the forced time this season for top four, just keep going, the next three games put three fucking wins, and then if we go into the Chelsea match or whatever, whether it's four games or whatever, just put the ones in the bar up to the Chelsea game, and if we drop some points there, we drop some points there, just let's get this fucking game and get the win under our belts, forget what's gone on before, it's just the next four games get fucking four wins, and you know we're almost there, we're almost there. Six more wins for our nine games gives us 72 points, as Andy did on his Andy Numbik spot, 72 points normally guarantees you a top four place, so that's what you're looking at, six wins together. That was really enjoyable because you started off, just get two more wins, that was just get four, just six wins, fucking brilliant. That's no more wins. Phil is articulating what we're all thinking there is, it's not an enjoyable match, is it this one, or do you have a different take in the tournament? That's an average excitement, doesn't it, I kind of get a bit of a bozzie, you know what I mean? Yeah, because my life is severely lacking and I'll bozzie at the minute, so I get a bit of a bozzie all that. No, but I tell you what it is for me, this match, although, if you're taken on as long as 90 minutes, this game, the build up to this game has started months ago, and it was always just get ourselves in a position where we can play them for three points, and we beat them, we can move on and pass the mill. So the build up for me has been happening for two months or since we had our turnaround. This was always if we can just get, give ourselves a chance, we're 80% of the way there. Just the last little push, get us across the line, the last 20%, get the three points of move on. So I see it as not a match on its own, but it's something that's been growing and building for months on end. But I honestly do think we're going to beat them. And do you think that could be the deciding psychological team? Well, I think psychologically, because of we were so badly turned over down there, or like a train, it's discarded, that's a proper turnover, isn't it? So to go from where we were then, we were at a really low ebb, and if we can beat them, take their position in the championship, that's the turnaround, please. Like, isn't it from, it's black and white, yin and yang, isn't it? So they have that motivation, and they got it right in the second half, and I wouldn't be too worried myself about Van Galle doing what Swansea did in the fourth half, because we countered that, and we blew, I know they're better players, but we blew Swansy away in the second half, 70% per session or something like that, and it should have been a discourse or something like that. So I mean, I think he'll be thinking more along the lines of, well, so Roger's figured out that, I mean, that's that, there's no point in playing that because they blew Swansy away. So he's going to have to come up with something else. There's different players to do, like, if you ask a matter to do that, like, you Chelsea where Deloitte see the back of matter, matter what really do that for you, like, that sort of donkey walk, you know. That's not, that's the point that was making, like, he hasn't got that option because we have, we, like, Roger Zaza, in my opinion, has already answered that question, if that's the formation you want to go, you know what I mean? And one of the things where he's suspended, he must be says, he's suspended, she pushed a ref, didn't he? Yeah. But he got a second yellow for that. Yeah, I don't know if anyone kicks in or there. Hmm. There's, there's research. I mean, there's, there's, there's kind of players, there's kind of their more advancement failures, like Deemoree, Fellaini, Matty, who else, Jat Yanazoy, you're not really thinking they'll do that job quite so well. And I mean, they're, they're more forward thinking players. So Joe Allen, Henderson, whoever, they should be able to find a little space around their players. Which is why you can see him reverting to the default setting, like, fuck it, let's not put that Fellaini and see what happens. I wouldn't say they go at the starting on that. I sure live a pill of three center halves. Yeah. No, I don't mean from the start, but when that, when that pressing possibly goes to the start of it. Yeah. I think if they do, right? Yeah. Fairness, I think, character point of view, which three centerbacks, where they were getting the space to hit Fellaini, right? One of our centerbacks can step out and always challenge for the headers and he won't give, he won't get cleaner free headers, aren't it? If they put him up along, so a Chan, Chan loves to call an attacker header. Yeah. And he doesn't mind the fucking physical battle going on as well. So, that doesn't bother me as much. I just think, you know, as I said, these games often turn into fucking lottery jobs in terms of, you know, it's always so tight. It's always so nervous. So many times a mistake opens up the, opens up the, the forced goal and then you often see the team discards the forced goal, maybe score a second on a tour because on a counter attack. And that's, that's where my fucking nerves are because we will chase the game. If we go one down, we will go and chase the game and maybe then we get a little bit exposed because we're going to chase a hard. But if we go one up, then we've got, we're going to have so much space to exploit against them. You know what I mean? It's just going to open up for us. And when you've got the looks of sterling and even storage, if you get storage up against any of the plebs, they haven't sent a center back, like he's going to batter them. Even if he can't go on, he's going to batter them. You know what I mean? Just ones, if he has a definition built on, we're going to be in such a good position. Well, as I already said, he's so close. He's twisting and turning towards that. I think a big, big game in front of Anfield, you know, for storage in his own head to be able to score on maybe one or two against, you know, to win the match, to put us back top four. This is where he says, I'm back, and I'm back with a fucking vengeance. I am the man. Yeah, absolutely. Neil, a couple of the things we talked about earlier on, we just flagged them up. We said we returned them in the preview center and selection, and I suppose we start with the club captain. For you, is there an argument? I know you've kind of touched on already, but is there an argument for Jarred to start? Or if there's not, do you think there's a likelihood given Brendan has shown indications towards sentimentality in the past in the selections? No, I don't think there is an argument for him to start. I actually don't think he will start. I mean, it seems, with him going and with him being out and with his playing so well, I mean, I think he's proven with Sacco, that he says that he's got back to that sort of metatocracy. It's just a way to do the players where Sacco was playing so well, he got injured, and then we played at half for the reserves, did OK in that, and then he's come back straight to the team. That's his position. I think the same happens with Jarred, but the inverse of it, where he won't just come back in the team because, you know, Alan's been playing well there, I mean, that's the issue we'd replaced unless he's got to sort of put him in the phone free, which I don't think would be advisable. So I think Brandon might have just got over, that's just that thing with Jarred now, and I don't think he will just throw him in at starting, and now I don't think he should either, but in terms of storage, I personally would rather storage came on. I agree, Talia, with a lot to say there, about, you know, if you will afford it in his head, you know, we've got like a decent record, scoring against it, but I think I'd quite like to see him come on with, you know, for like a second or four, half an hour to go. Pretty much, I'd go without starting against Man City, you know, with Sterling, the Coutinho, the Atlanta, you know, that real energy and high pressure, and really do what we did last season, and just sort of trying to get out of the traps, because you've got the likes of Jarred, and stories there, so just come on as substitutions and make a real impact. I think we needed that, and that's our goal for everybody, but this is similar, I don't know. I'm sure he does listen to you, man, Andy Young's not in his head in agreement, you've been calling to come on. Yeah, and he was just talking, he owed you a amount of cents there, like he's a great 100%, exactly the way we went against it, and just from the very beginning, just got ultimately, I mean, the opposite to Swansea pretty much, like the temptation for Rajas must be there to start to sell good open, maybe catch them on the counter or whatever, just fail ourselves into the game. I just really hope he doesn't do that, and I would be happy to see Stauhish on the pitch if he's on the pitch, because I really do think he could do something against you this weekend, but if I was picking a team, I'd be going exactly against it, and just busy tree up front, like, you know what I mean? The fairies there, they would have a good game against them, because they're not as clinical, maybe a storage, if he took a chance, like, you know, that has not going to just, you know, storage just stop class once he's in a goal, and then Jared, man, do you know anyway, I can see Jared getting to the team, and someone gets a knock towards the end of the week, and trying to make that, I'll just flabbergasted what Rajas now, if he was to turn around and put Jared. Even the poorer Lana, and he was poor, let's be honest, against what he, you don't see him coming out for Jared. No, no, I mean, like, Lana's getting a lot of stick, he's still on ground, he's still fine, you know, he's a squad player, and he has, he's quick feet, and he can create something, and he has a pass, and he keeps possession, he's still not rising on something to do. Yeah. Okay, like, I mean, he could probably try and take a bit of a, less won't touch, like, I mean, be able to battle a bit quicker, as he did, you know, before he got injured, and he was playing quite well. So I'd be gone, how he went against it, and he was, he was decent versus he. Neil, one area that is, is kind of up for grabs, is the wing back, kind of very off the pitch, and you've got various personnel there who could or come in or come out, what are you thinking? That looks like D.C. Mark, which come back in. Well, I suppose it is a problem, I already, isn't it, well, it's hard to call it a problem earlier, really, when we're winning, knock and see, it goes. It's very hard to single any area, it was a problem. It's a weak area, maybe, probably no more a week than the left, and the left wing back in my opinion. But, you know, I suppose it might, it's, well, you'd be very reluctant to put Sterling in there anyway, because you want him busy upfront, I mean, well, just echo what Andy and Neil were saying. You want them busy upfront, and you want the all out all in all action, like we did with City, but, you know, it's very hard to replicate one performance against a separate team. But, so, yes, Sterling will be wasted in there, so, Markovich, I suppose, but, I mean, we did get it right in the second half against ones, you know what I mean? So, it swings around about, isn't it, it's 6 or 1/2, doesn't it, or, Markovich hasn't let us down. Anytime he's played, he's full of energy, and he's not going to listen. His final bar isn't great. I mentioned a final bar from the left hand, so I did really poorly times as well. And the left wing back. Well, what would be your personal call for it then, just, like, in other words, what does the team look like, if you, if you're suggesting a Fluid 3 upfront with Surgeon Venture, is that what you're thinking? No, it plays storage. You play storage. Yeah. Okay, so then who does take that right wing backs, but for you in preference? I'd probably start the way we started against onesie. Okay. Yeah. Okay, Phil, what do you think about that on the... And then, if it's not walking, we show it against onesie, we can change it around and make them 11 players walk. I mean, I make them 11 players walk. Yeah. I wouldn't start, L'Ana. You wouldn't. I think Mark, which is a better right wing back. I don't think he's the solution, but I think he's a better right wing back than L'Ana. And I want to start starting on Coutinho in that top tree. It's George Knight, the solution, L'Ana. Yeah, but he's not fit. Just in. L'Ana. Well, long term, it'll be interesting. You could develop him that way if that's what your formation is going to be, because he definitely has all the skill sets needed in terms of pace, physicality, you know, ability on the ball, and he's young and is more than capable of learning that position. And let's be honest about it. It's not really a wing back. We're playing with attacking wingers. You know, when we pin them back, we play with attacking wingers. Moreno is a good fallback, but he's also a very effective wing back in terms of what it is. So you're looking to sign somebody, if the talk of Danny Alva has been available at the end of the season, you know, as to come in as an experienced player, he'd be ideal for playing, you know, as a right wing back and then trying to develop an oil in that position as well. So, you know, for me, that's where looking at its own day, if it's a choice between a man and Mario Kvitch in terms of who starts at right wing back, I certainly wouldn't be put in staring. I think we knew it was staring when we put him in as a wing back, and I want him up top because I think he'd do all sorts of damage in an attacking threat. And for me, I start storage. I know for all the pornists that's been going on, as I said, my take is that I just think he's going to be so old for this game, and I think he brings that going back to Andy's bit. We're playing against the goalkeeper, who's absolutely world-class. He's in the top five goalkeepers in the world, but able to shout over there at this stage, right? And I want my most clinical finisher on the park because when we get chances, we can't afford, you know, we can't have three, four, five chances before we can score, we need to score as many as we possibly can as quickly as we possibly can. Yeah. So, that's where it starts to be there. So, that's a bit of a bad act, like I don't see any other changes. I wouldn't start at Stevie, I'd keep him on the bench for exactly what I said, impact so that's the best way to go. Now, if we have to bring Stevie off the bench against, you know, the fucking roar and the noise that's going to come on when he appears on, it's going to be fright, and it's going to drive the crowd again, and hopefully the crowd is well up, and normally it's a great atmosphere for these games. So, you know, that's the extra spark for that second half that really goes in. But no, I wouldn't, outside that that's the only position for grabs from me is the wing background and I'll start Markovich there, because again, I think Markovich can destroy Shaw. You know, Jenna, I don't think if he gets a shot, and he roasted Rocco for Mark Rollo, as we're saying, and he roasted, absolutely roasted Lopez last year, and yeah, the Rocco when he was playing against Lisbon last year, so Lopez is not going to want to see him call up. Well, he's not going to want to start against Markovich because he's going to be having nightmares about last season when he sees him. So, there's a bit of psychology going on there as well, but listen, if we, you know, that's me thinking on a... I'm just, I'm fucking nervous, I'm swear to God, I'm wound up looking fucking spring over and it's... The tension, the tension for this game for me started as soon as the final whistle went against one's, he was just thinking, "Baaah, fucking bastard, I just want to beat these." There's actually nothing enjoyable about this match for me ever, I can't enjoy it. Neil, let's get the ball rolling with our predictions. What do you think, fella, what's your show? I think we all win quite comfortably in the end, I reckon it might be free won, and my worry, and it goes back to what Phil says, you know what, he's like annoying little things that might happen. I think it's Mark and I can soon use referee in it, and he's not a great referee, he loves giving it a penalty, and when you've got the likes of Rooney and De Maria and Ashley Young, it will all dive and rat, it does worry me that there might be, you know, the classic controversial incidents that it goes against us, we don't get it wrong, I've been appreciative, you get a penalty video if it doesn't, in fact that makes it better. So with the exception of that little worry and something like that happening, then I'm quite confident going into this game, I'm saying that now, but at this moment in time, I'm quite confident, so I can see he's actually got a few goals against him, so I'm going to go 3-1. 3-1 from Perley Andy? Yeah, it's gone, you know, one of two ways for me, it's a scrappy one-one draw, I don't say it's being beat, I really don't, or else if they go with them from the start, we're going to bash them, because there's some analyses in being promised to bash you in the back. They're that bad at the back, they just haven't been punished, they just haven't been. So it's between 1-1 and 3-0, 4-0, mad like that, for me, and I'm not going to see the game live, so I'll just now be more look to miss a cracker, so I ain't going to say Liverpool far, man, you know it, Neil. Lovely stuff. Andy? I'll be joining the hell out of this, Neil, what are you thinking? I'm confident as always, Jeff. Are you? Yeah, a 2-3, Neil, let's say. I can't see that I'm scarring against the fucking rubbish. And I want to see, like, does that work? I know it's a bit, you know, your game where I'll stress over and over, but they're not really any good, and we're playing really well, so that tells me we win 2-3, Neil. Yeah, well, clearly. All right. Well, that do you? I'll take that. I'll take that for that. Obviously it's 2-1, it's my show, because like what the fuck I'll sort of be at this stage in the season, Phil. Something just says to me that we lose, but I think it's the Liverpool thing. We lose, but we would still end up making top four. Right. There'll be that fucking dejection and depression that it looks like it's gone. But we come back. Yeah, because we love a Hollywood story. Like when we got beat by Chelsea on the league. Yeah. I mean, as the fee puts four points between us again, it'd be such a kick in the stones, wouldn't it? Oh, no. But would you take a draw, Neil? No. Because I think, I think I would, because... I think I would as well. I don't think I would, I would, no, to be honest. No, I think the drop of our points, then us between them over the end of the season. Yeah, the last... It's a draw to avoid, we're hearing now if you're up for the draw, to avoid the fee and to put four points between us. It's probably not too bad. Mm. Maintain status quo and take your chance from the last... But I've got a fair far, Neil. That's like 80 more points to one. I want Noynil for the last nine games. Is that your official prediction? Well, Noynil. Yeah. OK. But before we finish, Neil, would you tell us a thing or two about where Liverpool, the fans in and talk to us a little bit about that before we finish up? Oh, but I say... yeah, it's Liverpool fans in. We're on issue seven at the moment, which I'm quite gobswacked, we got that far, to be honest. Yeah. I've still got a few left of the latest issue. I'll be selling it outside the ground from about two hours before kickoff, so I don't know what time kickoff is on... Half-hour? Half-hour? Half-hour? Yeah. That's probably why it's so far cold. Yeah. Thank you. That's my time. Yeah. That's my time. It's my time. Yeah. That's my time. So, yeah, be there. It's all sort of sale, home-baked, and hat scarf for a bad shop, which is by the flat sign, if you don't want to buy it off me, or me, or me, or me, dad. So yeah. And the... And the web address? We are at Liverpoolfanzine.com, and we have loads of good stuff in there, yeah. You boys are in there as usual, regulars, excellence. Well, yeah, loads of good stuff in there, so, yeah. Bye. It's only 150. I had money expecting to get in before the end of the campaign, you know. But one more. That's going to be up for the QPR game, which is on the second of May, so that'll be the last one. And then, in the summer, there'll be a free digital only version, so we're at the moment, you've got to subscribe digitally, or you buy the hard copy. I'm just going to do a free digital one. I might do a handful of hard copies for people who want them, but some people collect them and that. And would actually want it. But so, yeah. So there'll be a free one probably into just a sort of back of the season. Whenever you tell the writers, basically. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, listen. Thanks a million for all the contribution. Really appreciate it. I am Lujware. 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I grabbed you and that, you were like... I'm not allowed to die. After I got the dog. The first thing I said to you was not a person. No, you're a king. A king. A dog. What thing could you... What on the phone? I don't know, I don't know, but I'm in a foreign extinguisher. I just do a book with water in it. You're saying the only pressure here. I don't know, man. Phil, we've got shit. Boxers. I'll kill you. That's... That'd be a restaurant. That's fair, though. So you'd watch your house burn down in a sort of... At least with some clothes up here. I'd claim what's... I'd claim what's going on. Alright. I don't think you're embarrassing in the house, 'cause... It's like a... Oh, my mate. Come and fix that. The room which I got on the bathroom. Yeah, I'm at the table. You're like... Yeah. That works. Yeah. You heard that box? It's dog soup. It's dog soup. It's dog soup. It's called me dog. It's called me dog soup. It's called me dog soup. You know, they'll be in a foreign-proof box. 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I'm still not really over that. Honestly, I was only thinking of that about two weeks ago. I never fucking got that back. I want to meet that, put it in the boy and sell. Not what I did when I definitely had that one's heartbreak and stuff. Everything is possible as a child. One of the things for me is, I used to spend hours just playing football and being the best football in the world. And you told me, "Yeah, it could have happened for you." No, I'd get eaten. I used to commentate on my own game. When the lads were playing football, I'd be commentating what we're playing as well. Oh, if you wanted to know something just like that, she knows what kind of everything is. And now you have to check Google and everything. I just have to tell you that. Have you had any of us in the queue? (Laughing) I've been asking the clue. You know what I like? Safe, tourty and farting. Did you think you were going to play for an oil and then live up an oil and then what? I fucking knew it. I definitely was. Yeah, because I was... Yeah, I did. I thought there was a chance that I was going to make it. Because I was like getting trailers and stuff. So it was like, it's there in front of you. Trying something about tirting. When do you give up Andy? When do you give up the ghost? Believe me. Believe me, you might be in there. My ballot telly's done. (Laughing) I was like, "Oh, football when I was about 24, 24." You didn't think of 24 you were in there. You know, I'm volunteering in my game, you know. (Laughing) No, no. Yeah, even, I suppose, but it's not as a kid. Even at 26th, there were a couple of opportunities to go to the league of war into that stage. One of the fours game was going to be against Sondeland. I had to solve it when I was coming back off injury. I didn't. And even then, at that age, I think you said, "You know, if we have a really good game there, you never know what could happen." Like, "No, Jay, like, it still goes to your head. You still have those fucking dreams." Even at that, even at an older age, when you know, like, it's completely unlikely and I'm glad it's going to happen. Even still, you're sitting in a carp and someone is trying to get your boots left. No, no, no, because passcode is just me then. (Laughing) I finished, usually, I was face-waysing and I'm feeling like I'm going to ask him. Oh, no, I got your boots! I'm just really going to just wipe that tickle up. I didn't think you'd fail. You never, was it a George Way as fucking, cause it was something that needs you to say. Sondel, didn't you, if I saw Hunter? Yeah, I was. They were just spinning me around like, "How would you think you'd fail?" I would say, "Yeah, cause I was praying for everything." He says, "Listen, my mate is deadly." (Laughing) And they were still for a player. How would you know about you thinking? What, no? Do you think the fans were caught on straight away? (Laughing) The current issue, you. I think they might know. (Laughing) I think they might know. It's kind of 15, you're all proud of those, aren't you? (Laughing) Who's the fucking pirate? Who's the pirate playing for? Well, it's such a real scenario, isn't it? (Laughing) Yeah, you looked a bit younger. Yeah. But you're physically, physically as incapable. (Laughing) That's what you feel now. What they can't look, what they can't look what you're forced to touch about. Within five minutes. They're maybe two touches. They're going to see it, aren't they? They're sitting there, aren't they? You could see it, you could see it in Andrey Varon and immediately. (Laughing) Are you still out right now, having been much worse than Brad Jones? I might get away with it. (Laughing) For the love of Christ. (Laughing) On the same kind of topic, Barry Scott's wondering what was your favorite bike as a kid. (Laughing) (Laughing) I probably should have shown it that, shouldn't I? (Laughing) Barry's wondering what's your favorite bike? As a kid, as a kid, yeah, yeah. What was your favorite bike? Oh, he had a blue and yellow rally born at the time of BMX. Oh, they were fucking weird. With the five mags under the mags. That's in the mags. Yeah, and it was the 40 mag way and not the seven ones out. It was fucking savage. You must be. And I still had it right and I had the fucking gear to go out and not. Like, obviously, Ireland being the hub of fucking BMX, haven't I? I was just saying. We used to go up to... You were going on the gear, huh? Yeah. Oh, in the mag corner. Yeah. I don't know what the rally mag was. It was blue. It was blue. It was green mag wheels, huh? Nah, this had yellow mag wheels on it. They were the cheapest. They're mag at that time of street. This was fucking top end. Look at you fucking. I was like, wait, wait, wait. There was a BMX track. There was a penny for him. (Laughing) There was two. There was a bunch of mag wheels. Two sort of race BMX tracks won up in the Phoenix Park. There's one in the Phoenix Park. Oh, yeah. And there was one up in Marley Park that built specially for it. I used to fly around there thinking it was the bee's knees. It must be about seven at a time. It was just spectacular. I'll be a mess. Do you want to have one of them bikes with no brakes? (Laughing) I used to stop it. Stop it by the brakes. The pedal brake brakes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna say... The hardest way to stop is you put your heel around. Stick your heel into the back. Yeah. I need to do a daily skate that way. Yeah. Oh, you could break your leg. It was your foot getting in there actually. Oh, Jesus! It was the worst soy glist ever. What were you cycling? What was your bike? Would you be a mess? Well, I would have had just all the different boys. All the boys. A little lab. You know, fuckin' BMX. A little lesser. A little lesser. A fucking melting boy. Yeah. But it didn't matter what he was cycling. Or he had a near-death experience. (Laughing) Right. I got knocked down in the lane way. See, where we lived, those lanes were on the back. Which led into the field. And it used to be a great little kind of jump across. From the lane way into the field. Yeah. So, everyone did that. Everyone cleared it. (Laughing) Brilliant into the lane way. And everyone's gone. No! No! (Laughing) This is a car coming down. (Laughing) Well, I got it out of my egg in the alley. Just fuckin' psycho straight on from there. Anybody else would have known? That's a warning sign to stop. (Laughing) But you told me to. Well, you told me to. Well, you told me to. Well, you told me to. So, you could go on to skill one more and just... So, you could go straight into the rounds. (Laughing) And this fuckin' split me head open. It was knocked out. Hospital job. Fractured school. And then. It's fuckin' hell. Yeah. (Laughing) And then I fractured the school with the car accident as well. And then the other time, it was up me. You should have got a helmet on the upper portion of the court. You really should have got a helmet on your hands. You only had those leather helmets at the toilet. (Laughing) Just strips a leather on your head. That's a hell day. (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) Get the fuck. (Laughing) The lip was separated from your face. (Laughing) (Laughing) (Laughing) Fucking hell. That was horrific. But so like you remember that boy to walk skin came out. (Laughing) That was a tough to sell. He was trying to say like I'm always safe on the boy. (Laughing) And the first time I got there the boy was dying to cycle but was kind of frosty, comes now out and they said I'm fucking anyway. You know what I mean? Everyone's so ignorant. This is where I look. I'll be grand and I got my fucking knee. I feel like he caught the pedals. (Laughing) I was just kidding all the way. (Laughing) I looked at the crowd he alters in the lower seat. He's just breaking my shit lap. How many times of fractured scores has got a tape for you? Stear care boys. (Laughing) I saw that boy. But now I'm in tight for that boy to walk skin again. Just don't do it boy. Well it's all tempted. (Laughing) I was just probably just leaving me. (Laughing) Yeah, I'm out of a bike. Oh imagine. Imagine. I'll be fucked. (Laughing) Flow is just wondering what's your car song. The song that when it comes on and you're in the car you just have to give it everything. Give it socks and sing along to it. What's your song? Eddie Morphy's parody all the time. Does that happen much? (Laughing) Yeah. That's how it plays. It's on your playlist. That's all right. I fucking love that tune. Yeah. So you give it socks you sing. I fucking bounce around the car singing. Yeah. I saw Eddie Morphy. And he says. Yeah. Would you be a singer in the car? I'm looking right. Yeah. You're rolling the window now. Do you remember last year when poetry and my ocean was gone? Yeah. And the original song. Like I got that downloaded. I got it onto the phone just to fucking listen to him. I used to blare that in the car. Windows down. Just fucking shit. (Laughing) (Laughing) And everyone just like looking at it. (Laughing) But that was a brilliant car song. I was listening to that like I'm repeat. That was all the way into the car. That's a happy music. Are you a good singer, are you? I'm amazed. (Laughing) I'm amazed. You're a good singer. Good car singer. Yeah, well everybody is an honor. What's your favorite car song to? I discovered stuff that I got to range for. That's not more. Yes, they were in your range. Yeah, yeah. I've been in a cave but something deep. I can't hit the horn. I can't hit the horn. I can't hit the horn. You're always struggling with your never walk alone. Yeah, there's a part of that. (Laughing) And like I just purposely stopped singing for that. (Laughing) Imagine if everyone just stops singing for that bit. (Laughing) I was actually going to ask if you're a good car singer. But we hear you singing every fucking time before you come up in the park. It's terrifying. It's fucking brilliant. (Laughing) You know the part of it is it's walk on through the wind. If you're singing it out. Forget about it. Forget about it. Forget about it. You start getting that cronky shit. (Laughing) If you don't go in at the wind... If you start down too high, you're fucked up. Start off in the wrong end. You're done. You're done. (Laughing) Do you want to be able to sound like a castrati? You do sound like a castrati. Well, no, I don't... You have to... (Laughing) You have to hit the pitch. You have to have about your balls. (Laughing) (Laughing) Fuck's sake. Right. Last one. How do you think about it? It's down rails. Oh, yeah. Hang on. So, you just asked me to answer. Like, you can actually sing... I didn't say a good thing that much. Yeah. In the camera. Even Ian Casey. Even Ian Casey. Okay. Right. This is the last one then. This is from John. And John says... John obviously hasn't listened to a full episode of the... of the podcast. 'Cause he says, "Trev, you manage a very unruly dressing room very well." That's you people, by the way. What Premier League manager are you most like? And who the lads think they're most like? So, that's the question I'm going to put you around the table. What Premier League manager do you think you're most like? Why leave you ill? Just leave me ill. You're my director of football. Yeah, I think I am. We don't want any. Feel free to include me. No, I have something to do with you. I have something to do with you. For me, I'll put it for you. Definitely tinny for you. I don't have any more for my team. Where are you going? What? What? What are you doing? Checking me both. Thank you. Fucking for it. Yeah. There's another side-class manager. Oh, Steve the Pirate. There you go. I'm fucking... Gary won't Steve the Pirate. Gary won't Steve the Pirate. He's happy. Argh. Argh. And are we tactics by flying nearby? So, anyway, that's... What manager do you worry about me of? Who are you most like? Manager, at least speaking. Er, I think I'd be like Kenny. Would you? Yeah. What is that? Because I'd be a belligerent fucker with a media. Yeah. Erm, I'd be more into the all the time before ball and, you know, how you draw a lot. You'd be getting me as a Clemson. Yeah, game of training. Game of training. Five or six years of training. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Game of training. Erm, so yeah, Kenny. Game of training. Yeah. That's what I just really like. Game of training. Game of training. Game of training. Three laps in the game of training. Game of training. Er, yeah. Phil, who are you most like? I know what you'd love to be like, but a marina I bought. Realistically speaking, who are you most like? It's a tough one, isn't it? I think I'm like Brendan, personally. I do. Seriously. Why? Huh? Why? Why flawed? Because, because I'm full of shit. I'm a waffler. Yeah. I'm a waffler. Yeah. But at the back, there is some sounds there, and, you know, yeah, I go, I go, Brendan. I know you want to be, you want to be Joseph? Nah, I wouldn't be that arrogant. What? What? What? Actually, I won't be that arrogant. I don't know. Actually, I won't be that arrogant. It's been said all night, yeah. Yeah. It's Joseph. Louis van dal. Louis van dal, yeah. Yeah. With the mask. With the mask. With the mask. It's a couple of size masks. Neil? Neil. Neil's a bit like clappers, isn't he? Clapper, great. Clapper, great, yeah. There you go. Here on the club. Yeah. I don't know with that shit, isn't it? I'm happy with that. Yeah. I don't know how dangerous it was. Oh, go on. No, it's a football genius. Yeah, a football genius, exactly. Actually, fat sound. That's who I am. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I reckon I'm a football genius. Well, it's where I'll clearly not. Like, I reckon I am. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll be in the scatting. Oh, scatting. Yeah. Thanks for going there. That'll do. Look at that. Look at that. We finished with some admin. Our weekly shout for our kind host, Astro Park. And you can book your pitch time at Astro Park. Don't forget that the AI channel app will launch towards the end of the month. And we'll be on there as one of the flagship podcasts. Exciting time. So keep an eye out for that. Your day trippers tonight were Neil Poole and the young Neil Gray. Phil Casey on myself. Trev Downey. Is it still there? No. He's gone. Hey, man. He's going to take an L because he's a headache. Oh, my head. He's going to take a take on me. Yeah, we went with the extraction travel. That's all right. You're always grounded. I've got a pack of their hands. There it is. That's causing the problems. I bet you doesn't feel anything now. Yeah. Put a hat on you back in. 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