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Only one place to start, that's Phil Catini on, there's a tremendous shooting, which all of a sudden he can do. So, after a season where he's been our best player, definitely, and he introduced us all to the Catini on. He's also raised a pulley draggy void of the far post shot from his game and he's banging in gold to the season. Match winners, if you don't mind. This is a good thing and how are you feeling about Phil and his recently acquired ability to shoot? Yeah, very nervous about it, actually. Yeah, this is your theory about other people poaching, isn't it? Well, it's obvious, isn't it? Like... Is it? Yeah. I mean, now he's the focal point of that team and everybody is looking at Catini on. I'm thinking about him as being built around Catini on. Everything that happens, it's all Catini on. So, no doubt, by our say, right, how much are they going to be sniffing around? So, my point now is to build up, but for the time being, anyway, it's brilliant. Yeah, that's enjoyed it. And I've got a superstar again and he's just, again, we get out his class. There were at least three occasions where he struck the ball absolutely wonderfully, one of them straight down the keeper's throat and another one got a deflection and went over the top. It was towards the end of the match. Now, that's a different style of shooting. Like, it's like he's learned how to strike the ball correctly in the under pressure. Yeah, I mean, I suppose, as well as when you're so desperate to score because he knows he needs to add more goals to his game. I mean, what number 10 is this kind of scar? Like, you know, has some sort of a goal ratio on a tree or whatever. And he hadn't got that. So, there would have been an awful lot of pressure. Like, it's all well and good. Like, the chip's over the top and keeping possession of little tournament players in soil. But if you don't have the end product, you can't be recognised as one of the best players in Europe. But adding goals was getting, that's what he is. So, I mean, now we've just seen, since we've done what he is, like, you know, all the pressure's off, it's back and he's just banging them. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the thing for the isn't it? You know, Ali was mentioning about him being desperate to score. But that doesn't come across. There's a kind of relaxation about it. In the same way, as Henderson was around here, the better shot that he took, it just looks all deliberate and poised. I was watching it the other day. And kind of both streaks, kind of, were the same way. Not by the continues, only in Southampton. It was very the samey. Just as Ali was saying there a minute ago, when he's streaking the ball, he's pretty much like, I mean, you take a driver out on the forest here, you're through the mortar, the ball down the fairway. You're not only coming across it, you don't hit it. Container was doing that. That's how he was always coming across and dragging away, because he was trying to force it. Well, you know what's down the streaks? Even Henderson's one and the tilt catenials, he doesn't boast the ball. Yeah, he's just deliberate. He just streaks through it and it's a flilled motion. And they'd say, well, I don't know where, if I'm sure they're practicing on a lot and trying and things like that. But it seems to be something that he's kind of grasped now. And he said the streaks have become a lot more purpose. He's not trying to mortar the ball and rip the back the net off. He's actually just trying to get them on tag with a bit of height and a bit of power and then he can over them. And it seems to be walking by from there. If you look at some of his shooting previous to this, like it was he was chasing the ball. Yeah. You know, he's just trying to swing a leg at it. Yeah. Now he was like, now if you look at any of the stale shots, like, you know, when they capture his mind, he's looking straight down the bar and he's very relaxed and like, just the shape you can tell that he's going to connect. That's what I'm saying. It was the only part of this game where you seem to be, as you say, out of control. Yeah. Whereas up to that, all the poise is there, the three balls through and the thing passes. But the shooting, as you say, almost seemed to be escaping him. So he was pulling across the goal. Yeah. I don't know what it is with so many young players. They take, like, obviously they're ripping it open. I don't want to lie to the level. And when they come on the scene, they find hard for the goals to come on the finish and to come on. If Sterling's finishing isn't the best and the continue, you see it with him. But like, as time goes on, they're just saying, this just seems to appear on our way. Like, we had Suarez struggling to, you know, the scar on his four season, you know, and for the second season is where he always failed. He was playing at 90 miles an hour, and he wasn't relaxed. But it just seems to come all of a sudden. And that's what's happening, like, you know. So there doesn't have to be some bad explanation to it. There's a lot of us in the head. And there's just he's so controlled looking now that he was previous. Podrick, how do you mean, is that what you're telling me here? You see, you're going to make golf a lot, Jordan. No, damn, I brought him to golf, buddy. It's so true. You know what I mean? Golf is the same. And you just, once you're feeling relaxed, get the hit. Makes such a difference. Yeah, fair enough. We should also give a special mention to Jordan Henderson's hit there as well. It's been briefly flagged, but that's a hell of a strike. And it was something that people were crying about, his lack of, I suppose, end product as well. I mean, you know, all the energy in the world, all the industry in the world. But people want them to have end product. I think some, I think it was Cara, who was saying, it's that now four goals in tennis in the season, which is pretty bloody impressive. I think it's four goals. Yeah, sort of like four goals in tennis. Yeah, it's great. I mean, Henderson certainly needs to work in his goal ratio. You know, it's not so much that he doesn't score. And I think that he gets in such great positions a lot of the times that he should score more. You know, he misses, I think he misses sitters. Henderson does. And that's a great goal on Sunday. Fantastic goal. You know, no keeper saves that, you know, fair play to him. And he played really well. Certainly second half, Henderson was excellent. First half a little bit, you know, like all of them a little bit within themselves. But it's a great goal. And you know, you want to see him adding more same as Coutinho. Those are the, in the system we play. If you don't play a recognize striker, you've got to be getting goals from the three or four players that are playing in and around the box. I'd be a little bit worried that we are, we're relying on those types of goals. I suppose if you're going to slightly criticize, you'd say, are we, are we paying the trade and enough are we getting through? We did a little bit on Sunday, I suppose. But no, it's a great goal. As for Coutinho, I mean, the goal is almost like, it's not even the best thing he did that game. You know what I mean? The best things he did were all in his general play. He was the best player on the pitch by a country mile. You know, if David Silva did what Coutinho did in that game, that we'd be talking about it for months and months and months, or has that or something like that, Coutinho was phenomenal. He absolutely destroyed City's back six. You know, he was abstract. Yeah, Zabaled on Torsten. Zabaled was like the best right back in the league. And he just, he beat them all ends up every time. So Coutinho and Henderson for the goal. Fair play, but Coutinho was just magic. That win against City on the back of the Spurs and Southampton results. Irrespective of points on the board, that represents the best role of form in the league. That is the best role of all the family team in the league. Yeah, look, I mean, to put it into a bit of context, you know, we lost to, you know, I did on December 14th. We haven't lost the league game since December 14th, you know. And we've taken, I think it's 11 points out of 15 against Everton, Arsenal, Spurs, Southampton, and City. So, you know, and we've beaten West Ham in there, it will also above us as well. So that is not an easy run of fixtures. If you were, you know, we did the part after the 3-0 last year, and I did, and there is no way anyone would have predicted that we were capable of that type of run, no way. You know, we're in, it's chalk and cheese. We've gone from relegation form to title win-inform. I mean, that's the difference in the two halves of the season. So, I mean, it's phenomenal. And, yeah, the last three results in particular, the Southampton, Spurs, and City results, they are, they are season changing results. You know, that's three results there, which just changed the complexion of the season 5. Are you optimistic that that's sustainable than just to finish up on that run-of-form topic? I mean, look, you know, the season, I think we're all a little bit winded by the first part of the season. The season's been a tough season, you know, the first half in particular. And let's not forget, we lost on Thursday. You know, we went out to Europe, we went out to another competition on Thursday. So, there's still these little wobbles that we have. You know, and, but yeah, we're playing with a lot of confidence right now. If you look at our run-in versus particularly United's, you'd think that, you know, we've got to match them game for game, and then we've got to beat them. I think we easily match them game for game. You know, in fact, I think we do better than that, and then it comes down to what we do against them. So, yeah, very confident. It's great to see, you know, great result yesterday, and, you know, long-may continue. Yeah, absolutely. Phil, last week, one of the topics on the agenda was the great Joe Allen debate, and we didn't really talk a whole lot about it. Now, the man himself presented a hell of an argument in his own favor yesterday. He was my man, the match, actually. Just busy to hold, getting his foot in. He was basically creating a platform for the other guys to go and do their thing. How did you feel about, over the course of the two games, if not just yesterday, whichever one you want to look at? Allen, for me, I've said a number of times. It takes me four games, four games to get back up to speed. And yesterday, we showed Joe Allen up to speed. Up until then, most people have been saying, "I didn't really see what he's doing." He was doing an awful lot of very good work around the pitch, but he didn't have that sort of... He didn't have his pass and level up to speed. Now, that's what takes him up to the next level. You could see him on the ball yesterday. Very, very good with the pass that was coming off. You know, they were in soy stuff. He was able to get us through midfield very quickly. You know, get the ball. When Henderson wasn't on the ball, he got the ball in around the center circle. He was able to find somebody in there final toward, which is straight away. Liddy Al Ruby telling me he's breaking the game line all the time. I mean, torn to see his defense completely. And torn to midfield. And they were then chasing the ball backwards. Without him having to run through midfield, without him having to go on a big slalomy run and allowed him to catch up or re-group and reshape. And there's so many times that he just gets on the ball and it's a little touch and then straight through. And it gives Coutinho... Coutinho is collecting the ball on the run and heading into space to get his head up and see what's going on. You know, everything about yesterday outside of the fourth 10 minutes was held to scout a madness, right? It was just what you want, what was good about last year. It was really quick. It was really pacey football. There wasn't a lot of hoof on going on. We were getting the ball. We were moving it very quickly through the pitch itself. And you know, Alan was key to what was going on. He just allows the defense. It gives the defense always an option on the ball. When one of the three center backs is there, he's there. He's able to take its side on and he's able to then get another pass forward. And it gets his foot in as well. He gets his foot in. Yeah, look, he's always, and he has been doing the last game. He's a little pest basically. He just gets in the face of the opposition team and he never is relentless. Now, the problem he has sometimes is his physicality. He can be pushed off the ball. He's not the biggest player in the world. But to his credit, he went up against a couple of monsters yesterday and was well able to handle himself. I think the other thing is Joe Allen looks playing against Manchester City in the same way that Vincent Courtney hates playing at Anfield. You know, there's some teams that always seem to play well again. And when you go back to even Allen's four season for us, and his best game he had for us in those open and 10 games was against City in Anfield when he just absolutely bossed the midfield. That was a peak, yeah, at Orae as well. He had him in his pocket at that stage. If he was saying nine out of ten yesterday, he drops back a little bit. Is he still along with Hendo and will continue ahead? Is that the tree or around the middle of the park that you want to see? You take this truth to the end there. I think we're too quick to dump players. I also think we're too quick to put players back in as fans, like, you know, he's in there on Merritt at the moment. And as long as he's performed, then he deserves all right. So, yeah, for you. We shouldn't put the problem that we fall into is that then if somebody goes up, goes a bit off form, we start to draw a breath and go, "Oh, Ben, I shouldn't take him out because he's too good to take out." It's a bit the same with Coutinho. Coutinho hadn't been playing as well. At the Southampton game, he scores the goal but didn't do much else in the actual game itself. He gets rested for the Bessictus away game. And you could see the difference in that he was so lively. He was back to the levels he was beforehand. And a bit maybe with Sterling. I know Sterling went off to under holiday Jamaica. He's come back had a great run of farm. He's gone into a little trough now at this stage. He was poor against Bessictus. He was he was lively yesterday, if still making the wrong decision now in the box, which has creeped back into his game, but then it tends to creep back in with fatigue. So there's probably more options to rotate those players now than there was before. But just go back to Coutinho because I didn't get to talk about them. It's just great. And as Andy said, it's something that we deal with pro fans. We're always worried that one of the big sides are going to come in and take a player like him. And the best comparison is when you look at David Silva and you look at it, he's been at his peak and he's probably just coming off the top of his peak now in terms of where he's been. And you look at Coutinho and you say, "Jesus, that fella is already getting close to what David Silva was bringing on a regular basis to Man City." And it has been our best player this season. There's no doubts about that. And even with the little dip of form he had, he was still making things happen. He mightn't have been doing it over 90 minutes, but he was able to deal it over 10, 15 minutes, enough to change games, enough to get the wins under a belt. So we should just be delighted to have them. And along may you continue. Well, go right outside. You wouldn't swap Coutinho for any of their forward players. Not in that position. Not in the way we play, do you know what I mean? I mean, Silva's a great player, but you need to play in a particular formation for... Silva's not going to do the running and the Coutinho does, so to put the tackles in the Coutinho does. Even apart from Aguero, I wouldn't swap in for any of the forward players they had on yesterday. Silva's been very hot and cold. I mean, the fourth season he came into league led to play, so people just, I mean, I suppose everyone knew about him. He was just playing regular and Spanish for their team. And it was like everyone's excited about him. Coutinho came in as a bit of a no-no. And he doesn't get into the Brazil squad in general. So they're very quick to ignore him. But I mean, you look at what Coutinho is doing now. Like, Silva hasn't done anything better than this. I agree. Yeah. I mean, if Coutinho can do this continuously, we have a player like Silva that we paid $8 million for. Like, it's absolutely incredible. But what I didn't say that Coutinho is probably tactically more aware than Silva is, because Silva's great when you get the ball. He's loyal, he's buzzing. Sometimes he loves the ball, he doesn't really give a fuck. Yeah, he doesn't give a fuck. He just switches off. Where if you see when we lose possession, Coutinho's dropping in to where he's supposed to be, he's dropping in the field, he's chasing back to Harry. So he goes going to get a little more. So we just want his, probably, now it's hard to say he's going to be better than Silva. But I think he's more tactically aware than Silva. If you know you're overall, if you know you have a 70% of the ball, you probably want Silva. But if you not have it in that game, you know, if it's only going to be 50-50, you might have less than 50%. You want Coutinho every time. But it's just what Rodgers has done to the team. And he has every player walking a Balaxar. He don't survive in that team unless you're walking. Whereas in City, they can carry players. You know, they have a very solid team. So they just, they have players that are just luxury players. I mean, who want Nazarene in that team? Yeah. I think three players, Coutinho was one of them, did over 11K yesterday. La Lana, Alan, and Coutinho, I think, all different places. It's a unbelievable output, like, you know what I mean? You know, Coutinho was getting the product today because he deserves them. But there was another 10 players out there that were just, you know, as effective in terms of what they delivered, in terms of the actual, in the results. That performance yesterday was such a contrast to the shot that went down from the second half and the Bessictus match. It's phenomenal. And given the short turnaround as well, like, it's such a credit to the performance that they put on out there yesterday. Like, it genuinely is. And it also shows the value of Coutinho, of Henderson in the midfield, you know, when we're in there. And also, of Emery Chan in the back four, on the back three, you know, because we didn't look as good, defensively against Bessictus. Now, even though, you know, the goal that happens, it's a combination of Skirtland, Chan's fault. But, you know, you're looking at the difference in that back three when you have him in there, because he is the out bar. Now, without Sacco, we need at least one of those defenders to be really, really good in the bar. And that's what he does. And even credit to Loveren yesterday. And I think Loveren, in fairness, played very well yesterday. But, and he wasn't doing a stupid 64-year-old crossfield pass, and it just never fucking came off. Or doing a stupid pass. It's something that Andy mentioned last week. He went back to just being, if he got it, he just gave it to one of the midfielders, and the midfielders, and he wasn't playing it back to Menilla. He just tried to play the game as simple as possible. That made him look a much better player. Well, one of the most obvious things that you could see from Loveren, yesterday, was he was sliding passes into Coutinho's feet, and said he couldn't stop it. And it was relentless. And granted, that was the second half, more than the first half. I thought he was a bit shaky in the first half of Loveren, but I want to talk about the defense. You brought up Chan. We'll talk about Chan and Loveren, because we should do that. Let's start with that idea of Loveren. Do you think there are signs of a gradual return of his confidence in that second half against City, or is that wishful thinking on Airpar? No, I think it's silly. He's always been a decent player that has gone and suffered on the back of how the team played. At the start of the season, everyone was sure that the start of the season. That's basic. You know, everyone was. But he seemed to be the main man that got the brunt of everything. He got the finger pointed out on the side. It's all Loveren as well. So, Lake Minnulei, I think the last one was on the playoff pod. I said, "The best thing for Minnulei is to take a building, for an on-lead milfer, with a trio of his confidence back." Now, as the center half runs the confidence is gone, it's very hard to go back into a sewer. You're going to be nervous. And we've seen that in every game he's come in, when he started. He's been nervous for 10, 15 minutes. But as soon as he's sat alone, he's been falling. He was falling against the sickness. Then the penalty just ruins everything he's done in the game. Yeah. You know? And then everyone has to go up. And I thought it was only four, 10 minutes of soil. You looked a bit rough, a bit rough. But then he sat alone. I thought you had a very, very low game. Yeah. Look, if you've been part of a defense over 120 minutes, that hasn't been that shaky, pointing the finger out more over the penalties, nonsense, isn't it? I mean, at least you've had the stance to take one. Yeah, exactly. There were those other players that probably should have stepped up ahead of them. You would like to see him. You just have a half. He's probably the last man you want to see. He's stuck up for 100th. Yeah, he is. Yeah. And the other member of the defense that was flagged there, and he was on my channel. And after that central midfield display against Bixetas, he was really returned to the kind of Emrechand that we've seen into the defense yesterday against City. I mean, with a couple of people, you can just respond to these if you want. They're taking their own take away. Coptastic, it was right then saying that Emrechand's best position is actually defense, discourse. And then Craig Holden saying, "Should we make Emrechand captain over Hendo next season?" That's how impressive he was with his leadership. I mean, this is the kind of effect he's having on people after... I thought a very, very, very, very average game in the middle. Yeah, I think I just find some of the remarks about certain players. Salbazar. And the same, the opposite way when people are slaughter and lovers. And it's completely like it's irrational. And it's not balanced at all. Like, I mean, if you were, if Twitter was your basis, you'd never watch football, you would believe that Lovern should be playing the conference. Or Shot or something. And Shot should be playing, you know, World Cup finals. Yeah, right. Like, it's, it's, it's ridiculous, you know what I mean? Um, like, like, I think he's great, but I want them in my field. And I don't think he's a great center half at all. I think the two games in the week, it's sort of pointed out to you that, well, look, we really need him in that defense at the moment. And he's excellent there. No? Yeah. Okay. Like, I mean, he didn't have a great game in the week that, like, that was Liverpool back to, um, pre-Connie United. Crystal Palace, when I felt we were the worst team in the league. Like, there was certainly an argument to say that this team, on corn farms, the worst team in the league. And that's what they looked like. Now, can he just hold Chan accountable? Like, it's such a knee-jerk reaction. Like, you just can't say, like, okay, you're misplayers, like, Henderson out there. Like, he would have made a huge difference. But the likes of Chan, you can't just say, oh, one game. That means you don't play him in field anymore. The future's in midfield. But even taking his own performance, just on its own merits. But the problem you've got. Wait, that's the choice. Well, I'm not expecting the choice. Taking his own performance on its own. What, what do you think? I mean, like, was it not a really, really underlying in the fact that with cheeses, we need that kind of thing? Yeah, look, in the fourth half, he was good. I thought he was all right. There was the second half, or the 70 minutes, the second half, and then the action time was the worst. Like, Liverpool performance was non-gold. Yeah, there was no big idea. So, like, I just rather erase that. Like, that didn't happen. Like, so, I mean, it's just, if you look at, look, Chan is making mistakes at the back every game. So scared, so sickle when he's in there and so is loving. That's why Trey is working out so well, because he's always got cover on players. And as a unit, it's working out brilliantly. But no way would you put two of them players together to create a back four. Why would you create a back four? No, you wouldn't. But if, if, if they were, if you weren't, if you were the partner, if you want a partnership, what would you, what would you do? Who's your two? I wouldn't play the, I wouldn't play the two. Like, I wouldn't play the back four, but the, the orthodox way to play both balls are two, set the halves. But there's no, there's no need to play. Okay, right. So, say Liverpool are gonna go forward playing this formation forever, right? Yep. You know, for as long as Rodgers is there. Yep. And they need to replace one of these players. Yeah. How do you go out and play a really center back that plays with Sweeper? Like, how do you find that player who's used to playing in that system all the time? Players are brought up playing either left or right. And it just so happens that they've adapted this system. Maybe in England or Britain, they do. Well, like, not in the continent. Well, look at all the teams across. That's why you have the likes of the Germans who, that they have plenty of the defence midfielders also play a center backs and do right-to-head shoot for teams. So, if you're gonna, if you're gonna do it, you don't shop for your center backs in England. You'll be shopping in, in, in countries where they do that with, with ours. Yeah, obviously, look, you've seen them. We've seen them doing it in England playing, like, teams have played three at the back temporarily. Like, Liverpool, they, the late '90s. You know, they've done it. They've got lots of teams have tried it out. But we did it for the best part of it. It's just four years under, under Roy Evans and we came close to winning championships in the whole lot. So, a little boring have done it and an event has done it and they've done it, like, out of a prolonged period of time. But if they were to go back to default, it's still a center halves. I think, look, it's, it's, it's a bit like, it doesn't fucking matter. [LAUGHTER] Not the part. [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] But if you're going to, if you're going to revert back to afar, which I think is inevitable eventually, because teams will start setting up to counteract this system that we have. They haven't even begun to sources out yet. And when that happens, which it will never to be happened, I think you're going to find a hard to have a two. And I wouldn't have challenged there, with, with Scarra, Larr. With Saka or what? I wouldn't have Scarra in it too. No, well, because... Scarra was a horrendous defender when he has responsibility. I know. Now he has no responsibility. He just reacts to what he says on front of it. But listen, that's-- And he's looking like an amazing player. So you stick with the tree for as long as it takes it to replace the center backs and say, "Bring in a partnership." Yeah. Or, but also, if you move to a four, you play slightly different formation, which is, do you probably play three in midfield? Do you play in defense in midfielder? Yeah. So you're essentially playing three anyway? Who's going to sit in front of it? Yeah. So I think that the question, to bring it back to Emmajan about whether he plays in midfield or whether he plays in defense, the reason he looks better in defense is because when he plays in midfield, he hasn't got Emmajan playing behind him in defense. He's got Colotoure playing there. So, Colonum. Right, but that's genuinely what I would do. I would go out in this-- Like, if you're looking who to buy, I wouldn't mind leaving Jean there for another season. Because I think it's easier to go and buy a defensive midfielder or someone who plays at the base of the midfield than it is to go and buy to Andy's point. A right-sided center back who can play in both the two and a three or can play in that formation. So, you can't judge Emmajan on one game in midfield because he had Lovren Skirtle and Toure playing behind him, which is not a good-- And he didn't have Henderson in the midfield with him. So I think there's a lot of things-- You just can't judge him on that. Personally, I wouldn't move in from where he is right now. I think he's-- I think particularly until Sako is fit. If Sako was fit, and then maybe you played Lovren on the other side, and Sako was your out ball, then you could play Jean in midfield potentially, and that would work a little better. But when he plays Lovren, Toure, and Skirtle, with all due respect to all three of them, none of them can pass. And none of them can really carry the ball the way Jean can carry it, or the way Sako can carry Sako. Maybe just give him a license to come out with a fencebar, because the trail he offers going far is unbelievable. Like, he bothers people out of the way. Yeah. You know what I mean? And sometimes when you're not getting anywhere in a game, it just takes a player like Jean to just go on a run, and players are just falling all over the place around him. But he didn't do it yesterday. But to be fair, he has done it in a lot of games that he's played in the backside. I mean, we'll play a city essay, so he probably was told. How do you mean the forward run? He did one. He did one, but I think he was playing right back. He was playing right way back, right way back. So I think that there probably was a little bit of, you know what, we're playing a city, Markovich is playing right wing back, just hold back a little bit. I don't remember in the last 10 minutes, he was sent a forward. Yeah, we broke. I mean, what's the fucking saying? We broke from their corner, and he was in the center forward, and it needed. Had, I think it was staring at the time, played a four-time cross for the ball. He was screaming for the ball. They stick him in there. He definitely after about 80 minutes, right? I think I scored. Yeah, I think I scored. He's just a, he's been an unbelievable player. Like, he has such confidence going forward, defensively, everything with his pass, and like, he's, you know, I mean, he's atrocious for the goal, he's poor for the goal. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, he's poor for the goal. No, he is, he's poor for the goal. He's poorly blaming him. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. I'm scared of him. All right, let's get both sides, Andy. You don't, go ahead. Okay, I don't. I'm with Andy, I don't know, I think it's so, yeah. Like, I mean, like, fair enough. Damn old, like, he's done his culture and badges, and, I mean, he's managed teams. I have him managed teams, but, like, he knows players. Yeah, he does not have a player full-time. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Fair enough. I didn't play center half. Damn old player center half. So he's probably has a bar to educate the opinion on it. But what, on that particular incident, I don't blame. I don't put hold, scaredly countable for going for that bar. It appears to be that ball, it appears to be that Aguero's going to release a true in the middle, because that's where you can see, scaredly, see is where Jekyll is. And he's reading what's going to happen. And that's just the sweet best job. You mean Silver's got to be related. No, where else played the ball in? Oh, sorry, yeah. So you can see, scared, looking, and then, um, Aguero's flowing across the box and scared at the end of this. He's going to play it into Jekyll's feet now, and I'm going to react. So we react, we just react to the wrong ball. The ball was fucking unbelievable. It's just sitting all over, like, you just hit the reverse ball. And before, you know, Jekyll's just gone. The only player on the page that can see Jekyll's role as can, and he doesn't respond to it at all. He's got to step up. But that's not what's, like, that's because he's not a center half. He's not tuned in to what a next guess, guess on what a striker's going to do. Now, I think of scarettles in that position, and Chandler's in the other position. It still happens. No, I think it doesn't react. I'd say you're scared, and we'll follow. OK, slowly, your take. What I'd say is, as a center half, Randy Defender, the American man, the American behind him, you don't fucking stand in front of him, because the ball's leading behind you in trouble. Yeah. So all of a sudden, he's got in front of Aguero, or in front of Jekyll. Yeah. That's the wrong sort for a center half to be on. At the start. What I'd say is... We don't want to enter rotary, but I'll just say, can we get out of here? You just have to be in the show. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. First of all, we're in Canada's wrecking Jekyll. Yeah, OK. But as a center half, the player comes in front of him. Yeah. If he just holds a position as a tree, Jekyll has nowhere to run. Aguero has nowhere to play the ball, because Henderson's already in there, ready to pick up the run. Skirtle steps out. He's still looking for an overie. Henderson's already there, ready to cut the cut of Aguero off with his run. He's in front of the skirt. Yeah, but the fact is, what I'd say essentially asked him, sorry again, what I said, right? If it's reversed, and it's scared to wear a can of this, and can't lose that, right? You've got two things. Four, ten, can't lose and step out in front. So that ball's not there to be played. What if he does do that, or will guarantee his scared to walk over, because he'll be more reactive to the family than he is proactive. Yeah. You know, where can will be proactive, and he'd stay in there, because he know I'm going to keep me shaped. I'm going to give him something to think about. And all he's got, where's he going to go? Yeah. Where's he going to go? Skirtle made up his mind. Need to show him how to go. For me, I think the goal still happens if skirtle stays or he is. It goes to your side. I don't think it does. It goes very well again. It does. It's where he should be standing. Okay. Okay. Skirtle. Oh, hang on, hang on. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. One last, one last take, we'll leave it at that. No, I just thought both of them were a fault. Yeah, yeah. That's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's simple. It's that, you know, Skirtle shouldn't step out the way he does. He has, he, there's two players close in the way down. There's no need from to step in and become a toward body. As soon as he steps out, he creates the space for both Jekyll to step in to, and that ball to be played. Now, if he doesn't step in there, that doesn't happen. Now when that happens, Channa's on his heels. Channa has to react. Channa has to react. You can't, you can't just look at the player. You've seen Skirtle go on a mad one, right? So now you need to say, okay, well, I have to cover it, cover his ass here. He doesn't. And you can see that as he doesn't even read that that's going to happen. Because when the ball lands at Jekyll's feet, only then does Channa start to react. It's too late then because he gets out of the way. What I would say is, I agree that they're both at fault. And, but what I would say is, it's a great goal, they move us all over the pit. It goes over and back twice. They move the entire midfields. Let's be honest. Right the way to the edge of the 18 yard box. And then, personally, I think the only way you stop that is to play Jekyll's off site. And that's where it can do it does after react. But I mean, we're nitpicking, really. It's a great goal. It's a phenomenal goal. And actually, I think, I think, Jekyll's very unlucky. Yeah, he gets to the hand of that. Absolutely everything possible to stop that shot. Girls don't think they're underneath his body. But he makes himself huge. Yeah. Jekyll probably couldn't have put the ball in anywhere else. And we'll have got to say, like, if that had been Lovren, probably we all would have fucking slaughtered them. Like, if he had made the mistake, that scared me. Well, some have made the joke. Well, what's Lovren doing? My own friends, if you look at me, I probably should have followed the game. [LAUGHTER] But I mean, I'll speak up for Lovren, because I actually, I think, it's completely unbalanced, like, how did the criticism comes to us? And then, look, let's take the mood up a little bit by looking at a different player. All the girls, Adam and Alana. And to be fair, he got plenty of stake recently for being ineffective. And, you know, I don't think he could stand over that criticism and get too annoyed about it. But yesterday, to be fair, he was pretty immense. You saw all the technique that he's famous for, and displayed the turns. The turns on the run, passes, finishes. To be fair, I think he could have had two assists and two goals. He is the unluckiest man in the world. Yeah, two assists and two goals. And that's tremendously. And to be fair, I think the one unless the decision was given for a foul by Skirtle, I don't think he's off, sorry. He's not put Skirtles off so it is the bottom. No, that's tight. That's tight, anyway. It's the same with the force goal. The force goal, if he scores that, that's something that Suarez did last year. That's the best goal you'll see. The ball comes in. And the touch and then the smack. It was just like... Dude, the first touch is incredible. But the finish is done. If only I needed that goal, it was like... Yeah, you wanted that. That's a point of fun. Like, the only thing is a fucking lovely player. He's a player who just takes rare pleasure or watches. Like, and it's so unusual to have an English player like that. I mean, it's like he's being brought up somewhere else. Well, he's had two goals this loud. He had another goal where he broke through at the end of a lovely move and he shot weekly kind of at the keeper. Now, that's... And he had a chance from Markovitch's unbelievable... Ah, the chip on my mailbox. Which he should score. Which he drags across the goals and fairs. Someone could have gotten that. Yeah, no, I don't think he did well. I'd be in harsh. But he also could have two assists. You know, it's a tremendous performance. Someone had to start their continual 27 games. Three goals for assists. Lalanna, 22 games. Six goals for assists. I mean, even those stats for themselves do tend to suggest that he's being comparatively effective. Now, do we see Lalanna as a fella? Who's going to grow into the shirt? Is he showing signs of growing into the shirt? Or do we see someone who might be just kind of always a little bit patchy? Lalanna is someone who, like I said, in Italy, he's like one touch away from being just a phenomenal player. He tends to take one touch too many regularly. And actually, if he just laid it off a little earlier, or shot a little earlier, or, you know, pass a little earlier, I actually think he'd be, he'd be the best player on the park. Because he gets into great positions. He's got great feet. He's strong. He's, you know, covers ground. He makes tackles. He does everything that you want from someone who's playing in that role behind the strike and next to continue. I think he's got a great finish on him as well. What he lacks is a, is a yard a pace. So the first chance he gets where Coutinho puts him through. If he's a yard quicker, he scores that, right? So I think he lacks a yard a pace for everything else about him like Andy. I really like watching him. He's a little frustrated sometimes because you just think there's sometimes an easier thing that he could do, an easier pass or an easier shot or something. But I think we'll see, I think we'll see him continue to get better. But I think he'll be even better next season. Phil, you agree? No, I'm not in a bad way. I think he's a, I think he's a, he's a good Premiership squad player. I think he's very effective as a Premiership player. I don't think he's as effective in Europe. I don't think he has been as effective in Europe when we've played European teams. I think they're able to cope with that type of player more. He takes one to touch too many in Europe. But in the Premier League, he's able to do it. And listen, we've talked about your talk about all the time. You need options. You need a squad. You need to be able to have a player like him to come in to affect games. Even affect games against Manchester City, etc. So I've absolutely no issues with him. Even if he is a bit patchy. So Sterling's a bit patchy. Continue is a bit patchy. The problem you have is that he's older than them, right? And the price tag that goes with him. But look, if he's going to come in, do a bit, deliver something for us. That's what you paid the money for. He was tremendous yesterday. He was tremendous yesterday. He was absolutely tremendous yesterday. He never stopped running. He never gave up. He was so unfortunate not to get a goal out there. You know, he worked his absolute socks off. And sometimes, I remember when you know it used to fucking play Rick Arsen's head every year by playing the most Walkman team against them all the time, right? And he rarely did fairs and play his best players. He always played mad things like, I can't remember the name. Park it always played. Park it always played. And he's always more at Arsen, right? So you need players like Leland in a squad, because he's going to have games where he's going to have big influences on and he had a huge influence yesterday. And I don't know if she wouldn't be in a squad. Or he would actually say that the games look yesterday, seal him better than say the bottom half of the table. Or is that? Because a lot of them teams will come and they'll put their man behind the ball and sit and there's no room for them to get tracked. Or you actually don't think this is good at treading passes through what's continue maybe. Right, I wouldn't even go and play. Or if he's got room to play, yesterday our game was so open, it was ridiculous. So every time I broke down, there was 20 years of space for him and continue to play. And they ran him up in it. And I think games like that will seal him better. The against maybe you know it's right here. He'll struggle against the looks of the Chelsea's. He'll struggle against the Jordan tents that would just set the. And they had against the high struggling this year. And he's played well in games that have been more open. I think it's very tough to play for us as well. I think the manager demands an awful lot. We talked about this last season, but even more this season, he demands an awful lot from his front players. I mean, you've got a, I mean, Sturridge can't get in the team. Stanley Sturridge can't get in the team because he's not doing enough that the manager was thinking about that for a minute. I'll go to striker. So you've got to be, you've got to do an awful lot to get into that front three. A fair play to La Lana. Like that must be nothing like he's been asked to do before. Yeah, that's a big ask. Listen, no, no, yeah. And like, yeah, ask me about like, I wasn't criticizing there. I think he's a genuinely good premiership footballer. And how many times have we crawled out to have good premiership footballers in our squad to give us options in the team? We're always talking about that. We don't sign players of good enough quality to be in it. We've signed one, whatever about, forget the price tag now. We've signed him. He's working hard. He's being effective. You just put the stats there. Six gold, four assists, 22 games. That's a good return for a guy who's not a center force. We're not going to keep it. Look, take it. I've never been able to fucking deem a real like, you know, 74 can have. He's like, no, not an even nerdy output. I feel like, I mean, people are going to list the field saying he's a good squad player. But like, why does that have to be so like, like, it's not a bad term? Yeah, it's not because he's not a car player. He's, he is a squad player. He will be the one of, you know, four or six that are coming from in and out of the team. And you're going to have your, your scoring in the team. Joellen for the front three. Back in the day. Absolutely. Joellen is, Joellen, like, you, you want that fucking, a good amount of players. Look, all Kenny's League winning teams had tremendous squad players. Yeah. That's how they won. And they put their players that we can end up with our teams. And they have the right attitude as well. Yeah. I mean, it's just good that nobody ever said things like that. He used to know why Vinley and Hartson are, what's the, what does something like? So that would have been, that would have been a huge compliment. Nobody is compared with anyone because he's not the new anyone. He's a very unique player. He is, actually. Yeah. And I mean, like, he's a good premiership player. Okay. And that's, you know, he's a first team squad ready. That's the one. No, no, no, it's the type of player. Do you know how many times have we looked at, even when Rafa was there, and you'd see somebody put in, you got to have a fuck's sake. Yeah. You know, I mean, what's he doing in the team? When you see Leland in the, in the team, you never take yourself off a fuck's sake. Or on the bench. He's like, Ben, I own, take the price tag out of it. But you don't want to say Ben, are you? I'm already standing. Yeah, you could just bring him on. He could play in one of two or three positions. He's always going to give you a seven, eight, out of ten game. Occasionally he's going to have a nine, out of ten game to run the show. And that's fine. And I was delighted from you. It was great. So, it's just such a pity that that goal. That goal goes down with Suarez. It's just a little freaky. And Markovitch is one. And Suarez is bullied to hit the post. Yeah, that was goals that just never cut. And Markovitch is one earlier against the bar. Yes. Ah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dany Storage, it was name check there a few minutes ago by Phil. And we had the conversation last pod because, listen, he'd been comparatively in effect for him over a course of a couple of games. And the Bishiktas came, came along, and to be fair, he had met himself. He stunked the place out. And then he's dropped to the bench. OK, the fitness excuse is given. But a lot of people were very surprised by that. Is there any reason for concern? A lot of people are saying, listen, he's an automatic first-team starter all the time. When have we reached that threshold now? Do we think that was a deliberate decision by Brandon, as Dave suggests? It definitely was. And the character mentioned it before the game, because he found it very strange that he started both of the Europa games and was left out of Premier League games. Yeah. We'd be screaming and saying, what did you fucking deal with? Yeah. Especially his old team and all that crack. Yeah, I've got to say it all. To me, he looks like he's still playing with the handbrake on. Yeah. You know, he hasn't looked to, I haven't seen him really open. It looks like he's taken a lot out of all, doesn't he? He doesn't look like he's ready to kind of really open up and test that muscle injury. I can see where Roger is protecting. I don't think he thinks that he's ready yet either. You know, the chance he gets the one that he just puts words of hosts? The difference there between him last year, he would have just disappeared away from the defender and wrapped the foot around her. But it was almost, I hate saying this, right? It was almost Torres post injury when he couldn't open the legs up. And there wasn't that force of acceleration that used to be in it. I don't think it was not just the technical side of not hitting it. I don't think that it's gone that way, right? But that straight was gone. I know. I hope that force of acceleration isn't gone. I don't think it is. I think it's a case of that what's going to happen is there's going to be some game. He's going to just go for something, right? And just the team will go out of his memory and he'll just go. And then in fact, he's a man talking about he's in his own head. He's like, you can't blame him. The guy has been on the treatment table for six months. Like six years. He's fucking shitting himself that he's going to do something. And he hasn't just had one injury. He's had three or four injuries. I'd say he's just going to ease himself. He actually looks unusually gnarkey on the page as well. But the point is, we, and this is where people have criticized the manager, right, for not having a meritocracy when it comes to the site, right? But this is meritocracy on display. Daniel Sarridge is not doing enough to get into the site, even though we've cried out for strike losses. And Rogers is saying, no, you're not doing enough to get into the site. So we've, you know, people have already got him about, you know, the college. But volatility and things like that. But this is the way we've got to manage the site. You've got a young, hungry side. Nobody walks back into it. Simple as that. It's why we have a manager. Like we are, we're all fans. We think we see the writing for the team all the time. And we're so around self-woken often. Well, look how many meltdowns happen between every team selection, right? Since we lost, you and I did. Every time we produce a team, someone has a meltdown. We haven't lost a game. Exactly. And again, Rogers is looking at them neither for a very fucking day. Good day. Or whatever, Tony, knock on the trash. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] He's following a round watch in a lot. Yeah. I mean, Rogers, Rogers, like you see, he's put a bit of faith in the manager. You know, you've all these pundits sitting on their arse and the studios and people at home on Twitter. And they're having a call and not starting storage. If he's not starting, it's for a reason. Yeah. And I mean, we put this, Tony, on together, our recovery, whatever you want to call it, without storage. So it's a bit of a luxury that we can bring him on, to bring him off the bench and, you know, give him a chance to get into it. And I'm sure he will eventually. It just, it does just bring up something. And I'll be sure for a signable. He does need to become the second man again. And bring in, someone as good if not better than them. Because we can't afford to be the only player for a whole half a season and then need time to come back into it, you know. Fair enough. We'll have a whole summer to work that one out. In the meantime, let's just finish off with a mention of... Summer's got a distant memory tonight with the snow. Yes, the snow. They won't come in and skis on a snowmobile. It's so low. All we don't want to afford to do it. Credit to day more coming in on the skis. Credit to day more at the end of the day. Right, let's finish off with a mention for a larger market, which 21 today, apparently, they're just a little bit trivia. But not even 19. Happy birthday, Lazar. Happy birthday, Lazar. Listen, as well as that, Jordan Eib kind of confirmation that they're looking at maybe a month with this LCL strain that he's got. So you're looking at Markovitch. Is he going to be the man there for the running? Are we happy with him? I know, we're not in the preview, but I have a plan. Go tell me your plan. No, no. I'll do it in the preview because we can... Well, then I'll ask you a question about Lazar Markovitch. I thought he was very average yesterday with some glimpses of great talent. I was talking about the chip pass and the whole lot. It wasn't his best game. Again, he's having a little dip in form at the moment, which is fine because, as you just said, he's 21. He's going to have ups and downs and he's not a wingback. Let's not forget that part. And you can see the quality on the ball when he was in the final tour, that he was much better. You know what I mean? He was able to play a little ball like that. He was able to see it. You can see I think ultimately he replaced the land in that front tree, and possibly I will as well, because I think his range of passing is a lot better than the land and he's more pacing. I think ultimately that's where he's going to end up. But going back to what we're saying, it's an option. You know what I mean? If we had two right-wing backs, two real right-wing backs, like one of the kids coming through, if they're going up to the legs of my back, or somebody like that coming through and you have, well, Flanno's back from injury. He's trying to, Flanno back as well. Flanno's playing on front. Can anyone see Flanno on that position? No, it's in that wingback position. Yeah, on one of the things. You couldn't see him as a full back, or isn't he? I don't know. Let's be fair. He convinced you. I think he's going back on the full back. Traditional. I think he'd be okay. Well, I think he'd be fine, but he couldn't play left. Well, I know he played left back a lot last season. He couldn't play where Marina was playing, because the left-hand side is where we play. That's our entire game. What's down there left-hand side? What I'd say about if he's playing that position, when you have Maricovitch Moreno and Oi playing that position, they all attack. They're full back. He's not going to do it. He's got e-relent, he's got e-relent. Let's see the attack there. And they make them torn. Flanno's going to get it. He's going to play for you, everyone in size. I think he'll be terrible. I don't think he'll steal me. I don't know. I guess I guess he'll get my run. I think he's not going to be worse than Enrique, right? And he's not going to be worse than Glenson. So, you know, in terms of... I think he's not going to get my career long. Well, I think my career... There's something going on there, definitely, yeah. Either he's homesick or something. I think he's more than capable to reach out there, but he's not even getting lucky. And so, let's just look at it. Say whatever's going on is going on. Maybe they're going to convert until right center back. But if you look at Flanno again, he's proved that he's competent in either full opposition. So, if you uncover or if you want the defence of full back, I'd say he's going to be the go-to option for Brendan to be honest with you. I don't know what to say at all. He's only back training tonight. That's another far from... It is. Yeah, but tragically, Jordan I'd say for 24 weeks. This couldn't have been shitty or tiny, really, like, to be fair. I think Mark, which is fine. We've only got a game a week now, that's... Don't worry. If you've lost our title plan, we're in... Like, I mean... Mark, if it's your first 20, well, he's 20 up to today. Well, what for a 20 or all of a time? Yeah. But coming into the start, I can't say... Every game he's played has been 20. How much? How much your of a 20, one-year-all player he is. Yeah. Like, it's... We actually forget about Sterling's compiler. Sterling has played there, and you can't play there. Sterling, folks, it was that... Actually, nobody knew who was playing there for a few minutes. Yes, it was funny. I had a call... Emery John was great there. He was quality. I mean, you know, if you need to move it. But I think Mark, which was fine. I think Mark, which provided he doesn't have an absolute nightmare for the last eight, nine, ten games. He's done enough this season to show that we got a player there. And he hasn't got fucking like a... Hold one still on that one. Sorry. I mean, that's what we else. Yeah. There's that absolute recommendation. He hasn't gotten rolled once. Well, cut it off. You know, he's hopping a bit. One of the best attacking left falls in the game. And he never got down there at all. Neither did Nazry yesterday. Daily, we're brilliant, right? That's a little short finish for the review. Emery John. Right, let's take a look forward down to Liverpool. Burnley in the Premier League and Liverpool. Blackburn in the FA Cup. Now, given an elimination from the Europa League, does Sunday afternoon take on extra significance? Or does the same argument stand that we've heard in the pod before with regard to the prize that's available in prioritization? We've heard some strong opinions in this before. Does anyone want to get a start on this particularly? Yeah. Wednesday takes fucking priority. Fuck something. No, no, no, I'm not talking about priority specifically. I'm talking about the match itself. Right. The only match that counts now is Wednesday. That's what you're saying. It's the only one that counts. That's the only one that gets a chance. Let's go football. And then on Sunday, we're up against the team from the championship. And we should be able to rest players and bring in a change team and still get through that game. We're playing at home. We should be able to give players and run out. We should be able to get, you know, fellas like Gerard and stuff if he's fit to come in and have his game down. And, you know, have them, if they need to be come off the bench and the lead matches, you know, get sack going back under his belt without having the pressure of getting a result. But are those concerns that you had before? And you've made this argument for early. Not considerably, but the lack of prospective fixtures in Europe does not make that comparatively small amount of fixtures. They'll not make it, you know, less of an issue, really. Not going to play the same team every game. It's basically what I'm saying. He can if he wants to. And once we be bornly on Wednesday, he can play fucking himself if he wants at the weekend. Oh, don't care. That's it. Ah, I'm sorry. An art is everything. It is. It's everything. Well, this is a fantastic opportunity to win the FA Cup. I think it's, it's, we've got to tell what our so-called best so is in the competition, playing the Gerard, you know, and then we've got a fucking unbelievable chance for a cupboard in there. So we can get a cupboard when we get forward. That is a fucking immense. So you're saying we can't bring in the likes of Gerard and sack out on B Blackboard? No, no, you can, but you're, you're. I'm not sure. I'm not saying I said you're not sour. I know. But I would be fearful if they were there. It's what it's all about. I want this to win them Sunday, but like, I don't even care. It was a bony match. Oh, would you like to be an Arsenal fan and just go season in season? Just quote for each other. No, I would like to be an Arsenal fan. Still, still aware is what it's all about. It's three games. It's three games. The league is what it's all about. Champions League is what it's all about. It's three games. The family of the local SEO would be elated like. I mean, it was kind of jealous looking at all the fucking pictures that she has here on down with trophy. And you make a good point. Did you see the face of Marino? Yes, Amanda, you admire immensely. Amanda, you admire immensely. He was absolutely fucking thrilled with that win. Hang on a second. No, you hang on a second. No, you hang on a second. He finished. The point I'm making is very simple. It's just to follow on from what Andy's saying. Sometimes you need a bloody trophy to get a wrong go. Yeah, I know, but a league travel. I don't be fair. Roger's desperately in this show. So why is he so fucking thrilled yesterday with this? Because he's a cunt. You're not taking the point. You see, he lost. Wow. It's a four-point lever to go. You reckon he's up there with the throws up. Roger, that's it. He said he lives it. Oh, jeez. I think it's a point. The point I'm making is mental to care so little about winning a trophy. I agree with you. What? Strong favorites to win that trophy now. If they finish for Arthur, towards our second or whatever, they'll be able to keep loving the league this season. Lifting a trophy would be just a cream on top of it all. And that day at Wembley, whatever you decided to go, already watching it in a pool with the lads, like, there's nothing fucking like it. There is no scenario whereby winning the FA Cup is a bad thing. No, there's no, there's no scenario where there's a bad thing. At this stage, the competition, I don't know how he could be so careless. I've got to say, in a way, I think where Phil's going to cross him, if Chelsea are stealing, seat you're stealing, all the big ones are stealing it. Then they're going to say, we haven't really got a chance here, boys. We might be in with a bit of a chance. Let's just concentrate in the league and see what happens in the Cup. But we actually think we've got a fucking phenomenal opportunity to win this Cup this year. Oh, would you put only a store of a team and a new manager, or a youngest manager starting something off, needs a trophy to get the thing? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is that not a valid reason for it to be a priority? Forts? No, not all of them are forts. But you're just going to have to just be in there. We've got three games to that cup on. We don't have to headache nobody or open. That's gone. We've got three games to add on to the few league games. What I think with the squad we have, we should be more capable of putting the quality team in the field for the rest of our games. Yeah. But that's not my argument. My argument is that we can still bring players in, rest players on Sunday. So you can put out the same team against Bournley on Wednesday. You don't need to make any changes from the weekend. And then you can bring players in that you want, that you're going to rely on with the one in common. And it shouldn't affect anything. And now the other thing is that, say we do lose the Blackborne, is that going to ultimately affect our season? Of course it is. Yeah, I think it is. If we lose, oh, sorry, the Blackborne. Yeah. No. If we lose the Bournley to start affect our season. Well, actually losing the Blackborne fails, it ends that chance of winning a trophy. Don't forget that one. I think it's going to be right there anyway, because he's going to play the same side. Right? Because we've got... We've got eight games off after the Blackborne game. If Gerard has fit, Gerard plays. He'd play the same team in both games. I'm not saying you think he should. I'm saying if Gerard has fit, he'll definitely play it. But even if Gerard plays, he'll play ahead of maybe Coutinho, LaLana in one of those attacking midfield. I don't know. Well, look, anyway, the point is that he won't prioritize. He'll play his strongest side, or what's closest to strongest side in both games. And he should, because he's got eight days off after it. Well, my playing roots out of the back. Yeah. Please, you're out of front. Yeah, he plays. He's always in here. Oh, he's traditionally, as he got all, he used to be all backwards. You know, playing safe. Listen, I mean, I think that... I know they were kind of hinted at it there, but I honestly, I don't think Steve and Gerard should start another game for us. Well, that's hardly controversial at this stage, Dave, but... Well, it'll be... I bet it'll be controversial. I think a lot of people will agree to. If you had to lose one of these two games, which one would it be? That's a tough call, Phil. And I tell you why, because I didn't expect this to be City. So I think when you're looking at the running, if we'd lost to City yesterday, nobody would be right then off our top four chances, right? So let's say we've got a Burnley, and we draw, or we lose... It's the same as if we'd lost to City and be Burnley. We want to take in that. Now, I think it's an easy one to answer, and it will be Saturday. Like, it will be the FA club. I think there's... The way it's going to come off, we were beating our heart on to Burnley. I think it'd be devastating. Well, let's focus on the Burnley game for a while. You've mentioned there in a little pre-view chat. That, you know, you were thinking, "Burnley, I want no one to earn a shake-up for going down." Realistic speaking, look at the points, they've accrued. That's the facts. So I take then, this is one you think we can win, and we should win. Yeah, I mean, like, this is an opportunity now, and I know that Burnley doesn't have him concede enough like a golf season. If you look back at all the results, like, they don't get bounced around the pitch. Yeah. But I think it is an opportunity, first of all, to put some goals. And we've got a horrific goal difference. And if it does come down to goal difference at the end of the year, these are the games now. Like, that Liverpool need to start doing a bit of damage. And I see this as an opportunity to maybe scar tree, fog holes, and just make that goal difference a bit more respectable. I'd be absolutely devastated if there were a beating. Well, I'm fairly positive about the Burnley game, because the way Burnley set up is they're not naturally going to get put knowing Tim and my mind about it. They actually do come to Troy play there. They do actually Troy play with the football, and they do Troy get runners down now, but that's one of the things you've always done for the ground. I think the game will be a bit more open. We've got one or two against this voice. And I think that's a good one. One of the better if you have a situation where everybody expected, everybody expected that the hangover from the Europa League exit would hit us on Sunday. It didn't at all. If anything, we were extra good. Well, if there is some sort of hangover from that big, they did massive effort that was put in. I find them out to Troy and Monday just to repeat this. I actually think I missed a good bit of the game on the horse and knife, but I think although the system looked to be the same on paper, I think mentally we went into that game, looking to hold on to one that leads. Rather than go and take the game to them, which I think is the air strongest way of playing football. I think when we tried to sit and hold and play slow defensively football, we normally get picked off. And I think they were probably more frustrated coming out of that game afterwards and I'm fucking hell, we could have done them. We can all get out of real go. And I said, I'm just like, let's put it all out here, Sunday. And you fully expected us to do the same again? Yeah, I know, because I think it's damn sad. You know, Sunday, we're fucking calling it on the back foot. Where? Let's put it all down. And that's what the lads don't. Yes, they do. We went to 11 and even the lads to come on. They just put everything in it that they had. I think we're in the kind of mindset we were, where we're like, it's 14 games. Assuming we were in the Africa, I think it's 14 games, is that right? So it's 14 games. So they're in that kind of slipstream now, where they were last season, where they're just going to expect to win. You know, when we beat City last year, I think we went to Southampton next, was that I can't remember who was after the City game. And everyone thought, fuck, here we go now. You know, we put in this monster, performance game, City, and we slip up. But whenever we beat Southampton 3, no. So I think that I can't remember that Southampton some will correct me. But if someone liked that anyway, and I just expect us to go out and think, yeah, of course we're going to beat them. Eight o'clock, Wednesday night, into the lights around field, we'll win. I think it reminds me of a lot of the game in March last year, against Wonderland. Where? Yeah. Like that? Well, maybe it was something like that, actually, was it? Yeah. The only thing with Wonderland are going through a terrible spell. Yeah. But they kind of... We only have one, one in 11. That's a pretty terrible... I don't know what it is. You look up only. I know, you think they're like, well, it's because they got to use all the... It's just the chance he results. Yeah. Excuse it. But they lost the Swansea at the weekend, like, it'll be a home. Yeah. And that's the things. Sundar and Kim, and, you know, we were flying, which were flying again, and it was like, okay. And the nerves are there, because there's a couple of games, particularly the midweek games, when you get to March, April time, that if you're in the run-in for anything, and we put ourselves back in when a chance of getting top four, that the pressure does come on. Now, the benefits this season that we didn't have last season is, we've been there before. Yeah. Most of the players that are going to play have been there before, and have played with that pressure going into the matches. And it gives them a huge advantage of our going into that type of match last year. Well, it's not because he didn't do goals again. No, but, you know what I mean? You expect them to be more relaxed. You know what I mean? In terms of how to approach it. Like what Daniel said, coming off the back of the win against City, you know, whatever about the match at the weekend, they know that if they win against Bournley, they've got Swansea in front of them. The next two games, and it's like every game has been, this has been a must win. The City game is the first one in the world, I remember thinking to myself, right, this is not a must win match, right? But we're back to two games, where we need to take six points. I know he's fucking one of the guns. Because then we have, you know, in an arsenal after that. If we win our next two matches, who knows, we could already be ahead of one of them going into a head-to-head match against them. And if you can put six points on the bar between now and those two matches, then going into those two games, I'm not saying they're a loseable fixture, or you can afford to lose them. But you don't necessarily have to win those matches. If you can come out with them unbeaten in those two games, then the run-in that you have, you only have to really deal with Chelsea before the end of the season. This is the time that when you can't afford the buckle, isn't it? Exactly. This is not a buckle line. Marriage is such an important team and any run-in. But we also had such a long time there, where we were getting wins, but we weren't moving up the table. And now we're still, you know, we're still staying in the same stupid position, despite all the good form. And I'm going to say, my plan is to move Emory Chandler right-wing back. That's my plan. If Tacos fit, bring him in, put over and right centre back, put Scout there, put Sacco left centre back, and put Emory Chandler in his right centre back. And I think it would work. Look, the fella is just brilliant, right? But the way it can rotate, he can step in, Henderson can come out and cover right-wing back, if needs be. Chan can step into the centre, and you don't lose any of that dynamic effect in terms of what's going on. But because he's got Markovich, Markovich's face, he's going to start there. Why would you change it? Why would you change those players deserve to go against Bournley after the performance they put in on Sunday, and start an unchanged team? And I don't see him make any changes. He may make changes at the weekend, but he definitely, they are those players for the performance level, for what they achieved on Sunday. They deserve to walk back out, hold the jerseys, hold the positions and go straight back out again. Which comes back to that idea of Daniel Sturridge for you. He starts in the bench again. It's not that I want to start him on the bench, but at this moment in time, would you rather the tree that we have? Or start in storage and hope that he finds form on the actual pitch? It comes back to what Dave says, it's a meritocracy again. And a long-lived meritocracy. Is everyone happy with that? I would like to see any changes, man. I mean, I probably, I mean, I think there's an argument to give Sturridge to start. I hate love. That's the tough goal, isn't it? It is, I mean, still the problem if anyone has to be starting. If you're going to race someone, Surner looks a little fatigued. La Lana and Coutinho just come off a great game. La Lana didn't play in Europe. Realistically Sterling probably should have had at least one goal. He had two very good chances. Yeah, definitely. I mean, he's making bad decisions in the box. And I think giving him a rest to maybe start him against Blackburn. Hope he gets a goal against Blackburn. That's probably how I do it. Same with Sturridge against Burnley. You'd probably fancy him to get a couple of chances against Burnley. If he gets a goal, maybe his head starts to get straight. Maybe get some energy into his legs. That's the only change I'd make to his potentially start Sturridge for one of the other three or four probably Sturridge drops out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. I'd roll with that now, I have to say. You'd roll with that happily enough. And then I suppose that leads on to the question about the following game then. Like, I know you've been pretty clear further about what you think about in terms of priorities. I mean, first of all, I was so concerned. No, no, no, no. It's Carly Pasco and 10 others playing. Listen, listen, the thing about every match is that when the game comes around, you want to win them. It's not that you're saying, like, I won't even bother. Watch the game on Sunday or anything like that. You know what I mean? But there's a gap. So for me, it just doesn't get me up. You know what I mean? It's you're not the way that I looked at the Europa League game and I was up for that because it was a route into the Champions League and I love us winning European trophies. Liverpool's USP has always been winning the league and winning European trophies. We've done that more than any other English club. That is what Liverpool made its name about. Win and silverware. Win and in Europe, win and in Europe. Win and silverware is my... Win in the league, win in Europe. Well, with the eye and win silverware, would you agree what you were thinking about yourself? I think it's going to be a maximum of two changes tomorrow night. Wednesday. And then it'd be a maximum of two changes. A maximum of two, okay. Well, if Daniel Sturridge is one of them for you, who's the other one? No, it's hard to predict. It's hard to predict. You know, Rodgers could take love right now on the team. It's like, you wouldn't really know exactly what he's going to do. We could put Tory in on one of the games. I'm sorry, I don't know what the story is. Well, I don't see him changing. Look, there's a lot of pressure afterwards back now. I mean, I think every United family would have been looking at that game against the... What's our face last week in Europe? And we went and said... Sickness. Sickness and half bollocks. Now, they would laugh and slag us off, but I think they were thinking... Sickness. Shit. Yeah. Because now Liverpool can just cruise the end of the season, making two or three, two changes max a game. And that keeps everyone happy. Yeah. You'll have your car and then you'll have the likes of that fanicle now on the team. Coutinho might need a rest early might need a rest. Storage might need a rest. And if players do you know what the bad players want? Exactly. Yeah. It's in the FA Cup. It's not a big week after the league finishes. So, you've got two games that have got to interfere in the league in terms of changing the players out. And this is one of them. This is one of them. So, you've only got one of them. There's another one there. One of them is a Wembley. Do you get the same final as a Wembley? I think there's a big deal. There's a fourth night off between two games and the semi is probably going to be wedged in there. So, I think it'll be vanished. Yeah, so it can be managed. Absolutely. And the good thing about it is we have got a fairly fair spot at the moment. There's not many injuries. Right, but I'm going to buy in them. Really? I've got to go mad for the FA Cup. I've got to make an FA Cup hat at the weekend. It's one game to Wembley. I'm thinking about that way. I'm thinking about it all. How are those changes? No, it's all there. You haven't looked so good. How can you agree with me? I also think the fact that Barraterli, Barraterli Beringa Lam, but they're not getting minutes at all. You know, in terms of the substitutions really, I think that's tailing as well. It means that like he did last season, Brendan, he's set for the audience. He's got his players, and he's like, "These are my boys." There's always so many players you can consider. Yeah, we're all sort of assuming that, like, Manquillo does a problem. That's what he's knowing, Dean, or whatever he is. He's only alone. Roger isn't going to offend the kid. Yeah, boy. You know, he'll just keep them involved in the squad. If there's an injury, he's in. You know what I mean? There's no big fucking deal. They can't, they can't rotate everyone. No. They're kind of helping them in the corner of the room, though. It's your head is involved. Fucking Twitter thing. He's by training and all. And everyone knows he's got something like that. Well, playing with those cop matches. Well, I think he'll definitely-- That's three games to the end of the season. Playing with us last game. We can go on LFC, family, right? LFC, family, go for it. This FFA Cup is going to be first EVG, if they win it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and he's going to be involved in the Cup Games. Is it Andy? Oh, fucking sure it is. Look, there's three games. This is crazy. It's three games. That's not going on, Andy Jarrick. It's not as bad as it is. I don't have a hair, are you? I don't know what to do. You'll see him vaguely, Andy Jarrick, but asking the question about it is for him. Because, you know, it's not for the-- No, it's not for me. It's not for me, it's for you. It's for us. There's a collective snare now, it was. Fucking Jarrick. I don't really like it. That's bad for him. Who's doing that? There's no collective snare. He's just not good enough for that team. It's not a collective snare. It has progress with it. The team has progressed. He doesn't fit that foot game. It has, but to say, Jarrick doesn't have a part to play in the rest of the season. Like, Dave, you said, I wouldn't start. I wouldn't start. I wouldn't start. That's not saying he hasn't got a role to play. I just, who do you drop me for Jarrick? Tell me who you drop me for Jarrick. And you and Henderson are-- You're dropping him in for Jarrick. No, just not immediately. You're just asking him to be dropping. But then I can only make the decision, right? The play has been failed, so you're going to have to pick somebody. Why do you want to drop him? But I wouldn't drop him in for us. And you're going to have players that might be torn and pick up a knock or whatever. I think my point that I was saying is that-- You can only pick, right? Yes. We've just done a whole pod. Jarrick would be the worst player to play in the right wing. But I can actually say I'm Johnson would be the worst player to play in the right wing. Probably not. Like, I could save a pair. And that right's in the back. Just in the mid-fail against Blackborne. Like, as, you know, where he fails, he's the best. Sent them in fail. I think. And then in a late game. OK. But I might have advanced role. I agree. He's not a liability like in an advanced role. But he is in a sentiment field role. Yeah, he is, yeah. Yeah, so I wouldn't play him in a sentiment field. I wouldn't start him. But if you had to start him, which I wouldn't, but if you did, you'd have to play him from just one of the attack in the field. So the game either in the season and you tried to put him in a more advanced role. I didn't fucking walk out from him. And somebody else got a halt, so I could drop him back. Yeah. As well. And that didn't really suit me. And we'd already tied the player up. For me now, the best way we used her out to the end of the season is he's a 25, 35 minute impact player. That could be amazing for us. It'd be fucking huge for us. There's no other for what you play. I'm not saying he's got no role to play. I'm just saying he doesn't get my best team. Therefore, I don't start him. Now, if there's injuries, then he comes in, obviously. That's a different story altogether. But if you have everyone with fear, his best role is going to be served Boston, his lungs for 24, 24 minutes. But he's got to be fed the Jared as well, right? You don't want his last 10 games or whatever. Him playing in a role where he's getting exposed. And it leads us not to what we think we can do for the rest of the season either. You know what I mean? It's got to be fed to him. He has a lot of the energy levels to play. Get at the tempo we play at the minute, eh? So, Blackpaw, I'm starting him, eh? [LAUGHTER] A bit of a fact. Look, I wouldn't be devastated if he started Jared. I'd start in against. I'd start in against Blackpaw. I'd start in against Blackpaw. He's not playing against Championship. I was just going to be fucking grand. I was saying, if he's put in there, he'll be able to sort on the numbers. And I'd say he'd be giving eggs with the till then. Yep. I can see that, huh? But then he maybe likes that. In the formation, then he plays well. Well, a lot of players know that. Oh, wait, continue to play well. Open the top three against-- like we did again, say Wimbledon or something like that, where he can actually deal damage as almost as I said. Oh, they want to deal best. Yeah. Just go and attack the team. You've no defensive response. And when he gets a chance, he's probably going to be the best finish at the club. No, absolutely. No, it's just what was said against Blackpaw now. It's not a sniping. I was just saying that based on the team, it just doesn't get said against Blackpaw. Yeah, I think most people-- And I'd like to see Sacco come back in against Blackpaw. Well, let's hope he's fine. Well, Sacco is the other one. I mean, again, I wouldn't start your own. But for me, the only two changes is you make-- you either make a change in the front three, and that storage will stir and enrotate in, or you make the change when Sacco's fit. I think we're all a bit nervous that there's a question about Sacco. There should not be a question about Sacco coming back into the team. I don't think it will be. I don't think it will be. Sacco's better than Lovern, right? Yeah. He's better as a defender than Chan and Scaredless. Well, he's better than Scaredless. On the Fenn Lovern, I think he's been in the last two and a half games. Like, he's being OK. Yeah. You know, he hasn't-- he's come on. I'm born in a perfect game now, which is a Coach Warden and all that. But it'd be a perfect game for him to put an extra game together where he puts in the performance. I'm more like a performance you expect. And then it'd be nice for him to come out there. To come out there after a nice few games where he's done nothing bad. Yeah. Sacco comes back in. It can't feel like he's out and out behind him either. No, no, no. You know, it has to be reminded that you don't just have three games and you're back to-- It's a nice combo to get Sacco's better player. And Sacco should be forced choice. I think there's a role for Lovern to be developed to be able to play on the right and the left. So that he becomes almost the coven center. He becomes the utility center back. Well, either it's a tree or whatever, if you were playing the back four. Because the more you develop them as a right center back, say against Blackborne. Say you play Sacco, Torre as the central center back, let's say, and Lovern then as the right center back. You know, there's no issues there. You know, and for me, there's absolutely no-- I'd go a different direction. If you stick in with Lovern, if Lovern's here the next season, I think he replaces Skirtle in the middle. Because I think that's where you should play him. Then try it out against Blackborne. That would be absolutely interred to be not wrong. No, that's what I'd say. You'd have to see him. I wouldn't play him on either two white sides, because I think it's a really tough position. You get exposed a lot. Your passing's got to be good in his-- You know, and you get sucked out like that. But that's the one. That's time that's happened. He's supposed to see in the whole picture. But Dave, that goes back to my original point about the game against Blackborne. You can put those players in. There's absolutely no argument, and no logic at all to saying that those players can't go in, and you can't do a bit of experimentation in the Blackborne game, because they are all good enough, and there should be no reasons where they can't go in and do that against Blackborne. Yeah, but my argument isn't-- there's no reason to do it, because we don't need the rest. We're playing against Burnley. We're playing against Blackborne, then we've got a big rest. So that's why I wouldn't make the change. Because if we had another game on Wednesday night, first, I'd like, you know, we don't. I can see the logic of that. But that would agree with me. Don't have to agree with you. [LAUGHTER] Fractuous. OK, shoot, well, look. We've managed not to talk a whole lot about Burnley, or-- Danny Inks, Danny Inks. Don't think we have to worry about his Danny Inks, because he's gone to soil for us next year. And of course, every player that's gone to soil if you're scarred with 20 goals. I wonder if he'll celebrate. [LAUGHTER] Don't be done. It's just apologize. You've just gone sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry for the next year, lads. Yeah, yeah, sorry. Oh, you want-- three. Yeah, yeah. So that's the height of our analysis of Burnley. And it's the trip you're by. It's the one thing I would say about Burnley is he plays the same side every week. They're fucking without down their feet. That's the other reason why they're not winning games, is he does not do squad rotation at all. He plays the same team every game. He's got 12 players. Yeah, there you go. There we go. And a fan of Carl Trippier. Oh, he's wonderful at the full back. I'm quite fond of him as a player. I like how he isn't pronounced the French either. No, you wouldn't do that. No, no. OK, well, let's go round the table and get some predictions. Then we start with the much maligned FA Cup, which we know I love, which is brilliant. Come on, the FA Cup, I love it. Come on, the FA Cup since fell over here after me. I'm so glad. [LAUGHTER] Andy, Andy, you live with Bill Blackburn, a prediction. I think it's going to be a little bit more shaky down here, people might expect. Oh, two of them. Two, one, win for Liverpool. Yep, OK. Three more. Three, one, I think we'll have a comfortable enough. Very nice. What are you thinking, Dave? This is Blackburn. That's Royce in the Cup. I think we'll win two nil, just to please Andy. I think Jared might score, just so he'll get a little tear in his eye. Yeah, I should-- [LAUGHTER] Jared Payne, more nil for Andy. I get one that was rattling and everything. [LAUGHTER] The Clackers from 90's. Yes. Yeah, one of them. And an FA Cup hat make it me on with tin foil and everything that the weekend. You do, yeah. Big bag just together. The big, big rose egg. [INTERPOSING VOICES] All you know, FA Cup badge on there, right, Andy? I think we win. No matter what time we play, even if Pasco's playing fornail. I don't think there'll be some story about Jordan. It's Jordan Alt still playing for Blackburn. Yeah. Yeah, well, he'll come out there. He'll be linked with us on Friday in El Toronto. He's a lifelong Liverpool fan, to be some type of fucking special on football folks at Saturday. Brilliant. Brilliant. All right, I don't want to win it for CVG. I want to win it for Andy. I hope we win it for Andy. I want this to win it for Liverpool. For Andy. Andy's not impressed. Andy, the Burnley game in the primary league. Liverpool, Burnley. Yeah, we're going to fail a bit of that one. Treyer fornail. Treyer fornail, wow. OK, right, it was first. That's what you said earlier. I think we're going to put the nail in the ball. It's cuff him, fully. I think that's going to be the end of that Wednesday. We're going to finish him off. Finish them. So you reckon that we're convincing him like that? Oh, I think we're going to put him destroyed up. Jesus. Just really, really good for him. Really? Yeah, I know. I think far. Far enough. Dave, fuck a love positive flooding. Seriously. Fuck on the mess. Yeah. I don't want to get it. I feel like this is the first time I've met you. I'm confused. I'm confused and I feel a bit strange. But yeah, Dave. See, I think it's going to be a little tighter. But I think we'll eventually run up pretty comfortable. Two, maybe three, you know. Two, three, no. This is not very overly optimistic. Not happy. I think it's going to be tight. If we win, it'll be very, very tight. A goal, and I think we will win though, Phil. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. Yeah. Can they ever catch-- still kind of get me head around. The blackboard is the FA Cup match. And bornly, it's the league match. It just doesn't seem right. It seems right. You know what I mean? Blackboard went solo in the Premier League for so long that it started out. And then it's the wrong way around in terms of days. Well, it might help you get over your back on a match. Man, I'm going off now. Big role of fucking 10 for you. Gonna make me own FA Cup. I'm going to sit in the room. I'm going to take a picture of it now. No, the worst thing is we'll be-- We'll be very-- I know, but we'll be again. We'll be barely. Do you think we're going to Wembley? [LAUGHTER] Go to Wembley lads. FA Cup. FA Cup. FA Cup. Who's up for the cup? Brilliant. All right, down to this. I am Lujwari. You are listening to Dripper's Chat. [LAUGHTER] Right, let's start with a few suggestions from listeners. Dan Purcell has two for us. We'll start with his first one. He says, if you've decided to break up with a girl, then she has no idea it's coming. How do you start the conversation? I don't know how to go for you there. Geez, well, I'm usually on the receiving end of that conversation. [LAUGHTER] She usually starts by saying, sit down. We need to talk. Do you want a cup of tea? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, OK. You have to give the all. It's not you, it's me. How do you go with that one, yeah? I go with that one, yeah. Excellent, excellent. Yes, I'm just back from the clinic. [LAUGHTER] Watch our mates number. [LAUGHTER] Just change your Facebook status. Change your familiar relationship to it's complicated. And I wish to ask you, say, well, I did want to talk to you about it. It's a friend of our Facebook. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Flocker. Flocker. [LAUGHTER] Flocker mu. OK, right. We're obviously very good at the other relationships here. [LAUGHTER] Daniel's second one says, what's your greatest ever non-liberal footballing moment? His was the Aguero winner and Ferguson's face in the aftermath. Any suggestions for your favorite non-liberal football? Well, it kind of is a Liverpool one, but I don't think you can beat Kenny when in the title. That's a blackboard. A blackboard? And that one starts up there for you. Yeah, I mean, it is kind of Liverpool moment because Liverpool were playing. We beat them when he was a former Liverpool manager. [LAUGHTER] He wasn't managing Liverpool, so that was pretty-- For me, it's the World Cup's order that made it to-- The World Cup's? Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. Houghton's goal in '94. Yeah. I mean, I'm a Irish, but I remember it. And that was-- I mean, that was a pretty-- It's also a bit hard, like, Houghton's in a World Cup. I think everybody stands up and sort of just, they're in awe of what's happened, like, you know, the fans that go over, like, they do put on a good show. It was actually up again. Yeah. Yeah, when Houghton got the goal. The best moment is probably to tell them it was the Houghton goal against England in '88. And then running away against Rocha. Mm-hmm. Fucking-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah. And then the win against Holland in Atlanta. That was down, yeah, yeah. So a lot of violence for you guys, basically. Yeah, man. If you've got a non-football, you're going to go with the national. Well, as a way, it's fine. Mine's-- [LAUGHTER] --probably poured boat in, hitting a bow with a penalty. [LAUGHTER] We didn't get to the World Cup. The marathon is going '96. Yeah, that was the moment. That was the moment that fucking football just blew me away. And we had Liverpool win in the double that year. And you're sort of aware of football, and you're celebrating, and you had the kids and all. And then you turn on what was really the first real World Cup I remember, like, very vague memories of '82. '86 was the first real World Cup I remember, right? And that was the Brazil team at Seaco, and it had an incredible match against the Brazilian France. Yeah. I remember being in a bit still when Brazil last again. Look, because you're a kid, you know, you're a kid. Just completely in bits, because I didn't want Brazil to lose, and it was great. Yassie Marrow was in that. Remember to go out that goal against Pat Jennings? Fuck, and that was ridiculous. And then you're watching that game against England, and you see Marad on it. And the way he just gets his hand up in front of Sheldon-- [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] But now, the way he just cuts through the England team, it was just-- it was something else. I'd never seen anything like that before in football. And genuinely, I've never seen it. And I remember Goul-- remember, Mora went out and got me-- Marad on it, 10, Argentina, Jersey at the time. It was the best thing ever, like-- you know what I mean? It was about knowing the kids on the pitch, wearing fine-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] But now, it was-- like, that just blew your mind. I'd never seen anything like that in a football pitch before. Never. And it was just the most amazing thing. And it even sticks out now. When you see the replay back, remember the joint spoiler on the pitch? Remember the shadow of the bit over the Azteca stadium? And always just fucking-- it's fixated in my mind, that thing. And even the final, you know, the game against Belgium. I heard the team against Belgium, you know, the-- He's mentioned that, too. Yeah, yeah. OK, wait. A lot of international memories there, for example. This next one is a kind of hypothetical from Paul Murray. Paul says, you're 20-- this is very specific. You're 26 years old. You're a Liverpool captain. You get the chance to score the winning goal to win the league. But it's also a career-ending injury in the process. Do you score or do you pull out never on the league? Nobody will know. I score. Well, you're 26 years old, 26 years old, Liverpool captain, so you're a millionaire. You've had a good career, yeah. You're going to score the goal of wins the league, which means like-- You'll be a non-millionaire. You're a millionaire all over again. And the insurance is going to pay you. Yeah. So you're a 26-year-old, multi-millionaire. I was never going to have to buy a drink again in his life. Who's going to do after dinner, speak up for the rest of your life, and put that goal. 10 years of production. At 26, you're going to have Staley Hill's event in the club. You're probably going to be in the-- You'll be the manager, wouldn't you? In fact, you'll end up-- yeah, you'll end up on such an end of experience from 26 onwards, if you're your manager. But the time you have to party, you'll be laughing. Yeah. Look at us rationalizing this poor bastard scoring the league. Just take it on, say you scored a goal, win the league, but you have to lose all your money after it. Oh, you just add that in there for a bonus. Just for a bit of a fact. So you lose all the money you've earned up until that points, but you can earn more money after that. You can't earn any money right into that goal, ever. So you only have the honor of it, basically? Yeah. So it's just the honor. Fuck, that's a tough one. So you have to go back to being-- Whatever, electrician are, or whatever, like you just do. Yeah. But you scored the winning goal for Liverpool to win the league, and people always talk to you about it. You can't earn any money. Yeah, actually, of course you will, because that's basically what we're doing now, so we're walking away sweating. Exactly, just to have an electrician. So basically, it's like quantum leap. You're full of day. You go into the body of the 26-year-old Liverpool captain, and then you don't come out the new goal. I have to give him a clear end of injury. He could go somewhere else. And he gets a career end of injury, and you go off, and you have to be a fireman. Yeah. Yeah. Or a quantum physicist, if it's one of you. Quantum leap is a great show, isn't it? Oh, I used to love it. You remember quantum leap trip? Didn't watch it, fella. Oh, why? No, I don't like it. What did he do? No, didn't do it. He even used to leap into women's bodies and everything. That's magic. He left it. That's a different program, I'll tell you it. [LAUGHTER] I think Bill's confused. [LAUGHTER] Kalan Karim is asking us, which was the first age-restricted movie that you legally saw that lived up to your expectations? What did he do? Just generally, I'm really sorry. Are we talking now? I think he's an 18. He says, what's the first age-restricted movie that you legally saw? I think this is going to be a far better question. Is it illegally? So does he mean the first film he saw when he was 18? I think I think he means the first over 18 is for the machine. Let's go that when it was Italy. The first one we're seeing was Rambo, fourth blow part tale, and it was the fourth day we got a video out there. Quality. Yeah. That's a good start, right? [INAUDIBLE] Do you remember the late weapon one where-- The first one? I think it's a [INAUDIBLE] Yeah, man, they fell as spare at days. Retoring us out of spare at the end. They put a lot of condoms on the stage. They put a lot of condoms on the stage. Oh, that's the-- Oh, that's right. That's the second one. That's the second one. That's the three, I think. I used to love that. There's Joe Pesci in it. 89? 89. I remember watching that with a-- whoever was fucking babysitting at the time, they had it on. They didn't give a shit like an owner who was sitting there. But they were breaking a shit laugh, and at the condom scene. I was always like, have a clue. I was like, hey, hey, hey, hey. Look at all their water balloons. They're quite support-like. You're not only on that age, you want to fit in or whatever. And then it was watched then. I was got to watch it in front of your parents. And of course, the condom thing, come on in. And they're all just staying soil until they continue. I'm like, oh, no. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] Mine was-- It's so funny there. Mine was Robocop. Well, actually, we watched Robocop and Predator. We had them on a pirate video, and watched both of them. And I remember not getting why people were so violent. And then the man in Robocop, he goes into acid at the end of it, like this whole face kind of fucking melts off. I was like, that's why. That's a freaking problem. There you go. And Jaws, Jaws, for me, is the obvious one. But she did scare the crap out. Mine was the only one. Mm. And it was four. How the fuck are you watching that at four? Well, it didn't put around for me now, it was just-- It's all in it. It was a fucking exorcist. [LAUGHTER] We're trying to get rid of the bastard. I think he wasn't on that guy here for you to watch that. It was research. Fucking, what did they do that Damien kid? How did they get rid of Phil? They had a-- Jaws was like, what, 1977? I didn't watch it when it came out, Dave, before you had to fucking open this route. I've tried it so much. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] It was a picture of what the movie did. I thought it was corner train goes in. It goes in. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Here we go. Brilliant. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Come on, anyone anymore? [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Last stop was wondering, which footballer's point would you dip your cock in when you're not looking? [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] The sea bridge, the smell of the sea, I love the smell of the sea. Ah, it's fucking rank fill. Yeah, I think-- I'm not talking to fucking Ireland. I'm talking about when you're on the Mediterranean. I'm just interested in you being out from the country. Do you like the smell of shame? [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] I hear some fucking killing people. That's a terrible, terrible generalization. It's completely incorrect. [LAUGHTER] Do not-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] Yes, yes. [INTERPOSING VOICES] I am one of the elders of our business. [LAUGHTER] But yeah, we regularly gather the campfire. [INTERPOSING VOICES] And we smell shit. And it's great. It's what we do. We still make our houses out of them. Yeah, we do have houses out of them. [INTERPOSING VOICES] And pig shit is much worse than horse shit, though. Yeah. Pig shit is much worse than horse shit. Why are we talking about shit? [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] The best one. Freshly cold grass. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] So we got to see-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Summer. Smell of summer. What's that? What's that? [INTERPOSING VOICES] You know it. You know it. Do you fucking know it? So on the first of fucking July, there's a smell against release. There's wisps of charcoal in the air. There's that freshly cooked grass. There's, you know, it's warm. Why would there be chalk? [INTERPOSING VOICES] Barbecues, that's warm sea breeze. First of all, sea breeze. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] In your estate. I'm on fucking holiday. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] What's that? [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] That's just a fucking delicious. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Give it your choice of profession. I am a scold man. [LAUGHTER] That is your favorite smell. Yeah. That is odd, I mean. That is a bit odd. You don't like smell of petrol? No, I'm just saying. Smells-- it's compared to diesel. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] Yeah, you're right. It's fucking deadly, it's-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] Smells more expensive. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] It's not quality. It's a food, yeah. Like food. Like, you know, like, bacon or pizza or something like that. That's the best smell. It doesn't even sound like that. It's fucking so hard, yeah. It's fucking so hard. [LAUGHTER] Smells so hard. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] There's food in the smell of summer, because it has the charcoal. [INTERPOSING VOICES] I don't know why you're not supposed to smell, right? [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] I can smell summer. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Who's the greatest B-grade action movie star ever? And you most accompany your answer with an actual movie reference. So I'm going to say anything by Stephen Seagal. Stephen Seagal is not a B-grade action. Where's your B-grade? That's ridiculous. Like, you know, substandard. [LAUGHTER] Oh. My God, if Paul Brennan was here, I don't know. It's specifically for Paul. I'm Phil. Don't know. Stephen Seagal is not a fucking pre-gated action movie. So who is a B-grade action? Denzel Washington. [LAUGHTER] Like, give me the movie. The equalizer. Yes, that's brilliant. There you go. They can't even fucking disagree. And I tell you, there was another one where he's in South Africa. And he was almost like his prequel to the equalizer. [INTERPOSING VOICES] It was where he went one up. Yeah. He went fucking rogue agent, and he was battering everyone. Right? So Denzel Washington is a fucking B-grade action. I'll tell you, leave me some co-grinds in that category of that. He's shit. [INTERPOSING VOICES] He's not B-grade. He's talking fucking years. [LAUGHTER] He's a billion years out. He's out on a trip. Would the rock be B-grade? No. No. He has to be. No. What the fuck are you up on? The star being king. Fucking man. It has to be. He's in the movie with a ballerina. Come on. But it's not an action movie, Trev, is it? No, it doesn't have to be an action. You know? You know, he would have been on a top set. Court Russell. He's always a decent actor. Yeah. But he's a billion years out. He's a billion years out. I can escape from here. Court Russell's that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see you in Steerge. No. Was he in the movie? He was in the original. Steerge. Yeah. Steerge. Steerge. The first. Yeah, the movie. And he was in Tango and Cash. That's fucking phenomenal. I love that. Phenomenal. Jack Pallins is the best thing in the past. Fubar. That's finished as we always do with some admin. And shared for Astro Park, our kind hosts here. You can book your pitch time at Astro Park. You should get on the new We Are Liverpool magazine, which is available online at WeAreL LiverpoolFansing.com. The grand before home games. It's absolutely the best value around and a frankly ludicrous one-pan 50. And it features a tremendous collection of riders, including a few trippers. And then there's me as well. Your day trippers tonight were Damien Flood and the young Phil Casey. And myself Trev Taney. [Singing] The part one is actually torn and just into skin. There's no lip there anymore. It's just skin. He's going to follow. It's like he's in the room. What's that? Well, he knocked up. He's knocked up when he lives with his housemates and they all fart on each other's pillowcases and they get proud of him. [Laughter] The bridge is the Swedish Norwegian. Oh yeah, I saw the Asplat. Let's go. It's brilliant. It looks classic. I'm onto the second series. He's on the American side as well. I watched the American killing, which I enjoyed. I watched the Swedish Norwegian of the four series of the bridge. You just don't go back down to the American one. They did a British version of the bridge called the Tunnel. It's all about the body being found in the middle. In the middle. I'll tell you how to pull the casey there for a second. It's actually, this is really... Do you imagine if that was in the border? No, no, no. Again, let's go. [Laughter] On your side. On your side. On your side. [Laughter] High five. [Laughter] Seriously, you've got two, seven. Three, four, five. [Laughter] Recurry. [Laughter] Four, four, four, two, again. [Laughter] I thought I'd have to hold it, but that boy boy. [Laughter] Right, right. [Laughter] Three. Fifteen minutes could save you. Fifteen percent or more. Oh, that's a sure we used to do in softball. Uh, what? It's actually Geico's. Whenever someone hit a triple, we would wave our bats and yell, "15 minutes could save you 15 percent or more." But we never got to use it, because we would only hit home runs. Annoying. The phrase is from Geico, because they helped save people money. Geico? Yeah, they were our team sponsor. Geico, 15 minutes could save you 15 percent or more. This might look like a normal job, but it's not. When hackers infiltrate networks and steal or destroy proprietary data, we're all at risk. Earn a master's degree in cyber security online at Grand Canyon University and help protect your company from cyber threats by performing vulnerability assessments and threat hunting to catch hackers. What do you think protecting your company looks like? 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We round up the last 7 days action and basically focus on the League match. Magical Coutinho, tireless Lallana, Able allen, Wonder Hendo, Strong Can etc etc. Great time to be watching the Reds. We then look at the next 2 fixtures and convert Casey into a rampant FA Cup lovre. We close out with the usual eclectic mix of Trippers Chats
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