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So with a comprehensive win over Palace in the FA Cup we look back at the good and the bad and the dancing. We are joined by Jim Boardman to review and preview upcoming games v Besiktas & Southampton before going off on one and even prank calling an inanimate object. All in all an average day in trippers bunker. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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So with a comprehensive win over Palace in the FA Cup we look back at the good and the bad and the dancing. We are joined by Jim Boardman to review and preview upcoming games v Besiktas & Southampton before going off on one and even prank calling an inanimate object. All in all an average day in trippers bunker.

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And the prospect of silverware beckons on two fronts. On Thursday Liverpool played Bishiktas in the knockout stage of the Europa League, with a very appealing prize of Champions League football at the lightful accompaniment to that trophy. I'm Trev Downey, and to look back at Saturday's win, and preview the Europa League match as well as the crucial fixture against Southampton on Sunday. I'm joined by Stephen Daly, Andy Young and Phil Casey, with Jim Boardman making a triple debut. Right, well, look, after all the heated exchanges that some people had about the realm of merits of the FA Cup as a trophy, Liverpool simply went out in one, and the manager selected a strong side, featuring an unchanged defence. So let's start at the back this week. With the continually improving Simon Minnule, it's his good form, gone to the result in the club not buying a new keeper in the summery wonder. That'll be quite Liverpool thing to do. He's made a lot of interesting comments, there'll be a lot of interesting things on him in the newspapers and that. So, Jim, we might start with you and your take on Minnule, and it's upswing and form lately. I was made over there. I thought he was like a goalkeeper possessed. He was determined to bury all the bad stuff that had gone on a couple of months ago. I mean, if he didn't know differently, you think he had a twin brother and someone had swapped him at some point because this was a different keeper on Saturday to what we saw before Christmas. He was full of confidence, and the good thing is that confidence from him is spreading throughout the team. It's what we need. We need someone at the back of his company that can help the defence to be competent, and I think they're feeding off each other. Yeah, it was interesting, I don't know. I assume you've seen the various bits and pieces, and he was kind of attributing his new mindset to a chat he had with Missus, which is basically, she said you're overthinking it, and then he had the same thing where he iterated him and the training, and he does look like a guy. We've got a controversial theory here amongst the lads. They think it's basically every time he's gone for a ball, he's saying fuck you to Brennan, but he does seem to have a complete mindset. Like you say, it's a completely different fella. Yeah, it's just an easy, it's just different. I think he's realised as well that this might be, if you can't make it a Liverpool, he's not going to get to a bigger club. This could be his last chance to be in the big time. If he wants to get work his way into being first shows for Belgium one day and things like that, this is his chance to do it. This is his time to do it. I think he's helped him that he's had a fairly solid back three in front of him, and I think he's held the back three that he's been quite solid since that's really got going. I'm not sure what happens in the summer, whether we still look at somebody else. I suppose what you do is you see what happens between now and the end of the season, whether he has any more wobbles, and maybe not just that. Every goalkeeper has a wobble now and again. It's how he reacts to them. He's overthinking it, if he's overthinking it, after he's had a wobble, then he's going to struggle again. Yeah, yeah, I suppose that's... And he's been a lot of criticism, you know, and grab a lot of high profile people coming out and digging them out. We had this stupid Gary Neville criticisms of his position and all that in school, you're making a bit of a show of them. He doesn't seem like the type of guy who's going to come out and start pointing fingers and shut you up, but he does seem to have taken on something. Whatever it is, would you think it's as simple as what he's saying that he's had a mindset changer? Do you buy into what we were saying last week that it's more kind of anger? Yeah, I think like going back a few months it was a very difficult place to be and that live up in all starting at 11. When your players coming in after Ben Chard had been in the squad that were getting chances, it was very difficult on the Meghan Impact and it was just an all-round bad place to be. Then he got his little bit of rehabilitation sitting on the bench, he strapped to Brad Jones, you know, he must have been thinking what's gone wrong here, what's gone wrong. I felt like I've come to one of the biggest clubs in the world and now it's all over for me. It looks like it's all over me because a lot of this felt that I keep on what he came in in January. I'm sure he was thinking the same and then we're back in and everything's happening. So, let's just see the next time a difficult period happens, but I think it's an easy team to be playing in at the moment. So, there's a lot of pressure often, there's not as many fingers being pointed and it's benefiting, usually from it. So, it's a big character change, they're just as simple as saying, "Fuck it, let's..." You know, I'm not the lils here now, who knows, but let's see what happens the next time he's wearing a hold, you know. I'd still be replacing him, quicksmarting in there to somewhere at the very least, like keeping him as a backup goalkeeper. Yeah, well, that's kind of where I wanted to go next. And those seem, Steve, a bit mealy made it to be criticized when talking about Chant and the guy out after he's been so good lately, but it's something we're going to have to address. Like, it seemed quite negligent that they didn't get someone in January and now, you know, it's going to be somewhere soon. Is a new keeper almost for you? Yeah, I don't think it has to be guaranteed for his choice keeper, but I think we need competition, we've needed that all along. And I think we spoke in here before about the fact that Brad Jones, for a club of our size and where we're trying to push to be, Brad Jones should not be our backup goalkeeper, you know, and we spoke with Aldez, whatever else. In terms of Minnule and his form and sort of that, he seems to me like a fellow who's in the last six months of his contract, you know, it's that same sort of mindset. It's a fuck it. What's the worst that can happen? I've gone out here in the summer or, you know, and maybe that's taken a little bit of the pressure often, you know, because, and we're talking about, Andy was saying about the Liverpool team being an easy one to play in at the minute, but I think a lot of what's happened with the defense is down to them having a renewed confidence in their goalkeeper behind them. You know, they now feel he's going to come out eight, ten, twelve yards and go and claim that ball or at least attack it. Whereas beforehand, he was rooted to his nine, so they had to be on the six yard box, you know what I mean, in order to go on actually for them to be able to attack a ball. I think that makes a big difference as well. So you reckon it's kind of like the opposite side to what Jim was saying. It's basically both sides. I think, yeah, I think each side is helping the other side. I think you can't have one without the other in a sense. So, yeah, no, I definitely think another goalkeeper is needed in the summer without question, but it always has been, whether he had that drop in form, we still should have been buying a quality goalkeeper for Jones anyway. Yeah, absolutely. But this whole thing of coming for balls, this is going to happen progressively like it hasn't just happened by overnight as soon as you got back into the team. So it toys him with the defense being so good as well. You know, he's confident in them and you say Dave confidence in him. And he has to build up the confidence in himself. He was dodgy when he came back into the team. He wasn't come over there. He was missing balls. No, still has the odd little, you know, skip a heartbeat moments where especially with his kicking. But even his kicking has approved. Yeah, yeah. If it helps him having three cents a batch to choose from when it's better back-passing going on. Of course. Yeah, that's massive. I reckon, Jim. Yeah, I reckon that is massive. Phil, do you want to have a last word in this? No, I just want to praise him for his performance of the weekend. That side that he pulls off just before half time. Listen, that's the match-minute error. Yeah, you know what I mean? That's why Gailting is true on Gailting, again. Fucking hate attack on Gailting. Yeah, look, he's a horrible creature, isn't he? He's just horrible. He's just horrible. The goal. I don't know. I didn't read the agenda for a shine. I don't know if they're celebration. That went me up something awful. I said I wanted to kick him. They're dancing. Yeah, that did me head in. I don't mind that. It's just saying his head. It was him. And Fraser Campbell. Yeah. Do you want to talk down? That did me. And it was him. Yeah. And then when it was going through, when Minu Lei makes the save, because that fucker also had that game again last year. In the tree? In the tree. Oh, he was so nice. Yeah, two games last year. Boy, hate, boy, Gail. Hate for the passion, right? He's a decent little player, though, but... Hate. Yeah. Right, so, you know, when he makes that save, that's a huge moment. Like, I don't really care about the dive into him. I know people are going on about Gailting and his dive. But, look, getting back to Minu Lei. Great saves, as Andy said. He's comin' for everything. I go back to the roots of this Uptorn of Form. The game he played against Raya Madrid. Where he seemed to throw off his own mental shackles and play really well that night. I think he got dropped quite quickly after that game. You know, that was the sign of what he could do. Our problem was could he do that consistently over one of the games? And what he seems to, as he is playing like a player, that's either playing for a contract or, you know, just feels like, "Well, no matter what I do from here on in, if I give them my best, they're not really care. And just throw everything to the wind and just go out and play as high and as well as I possibly can. Maybe, maybe I'll change people's minds and I'll be able to nail down the spot. So, instead I'm going to sign a force team keeper. They might go out and sign a quality backup. Yeah. Well, that would leave me with a still a realistic chance of holding the number one jersey. Yeah. And I said it lastly, that's what you want. Yeah. That's what you want. Like, I would rather, I want to see Minu Lei in this confidence, in this run of form. Because we need that. We need that under the amount of games we have to win between now and the end of the season, if we want to make top four, we need our goalkeeper in the best possible run of form that we can possibly have. We can't afford slip-ups. We can't afford mistakes. And when he's coming and winning things, like, I'm just so glad to see him. He's gone back to what he used to do at Son of Land, where he's stopped trying to catch his mousers across us. He's just coming and punching everything. And to his credit, he's punching nearly everything. And if he's going to, once he's clearing the 18-yard box, because we have enough defenders around, they're able to get around and clear the bar. It is chicken and egg. It's like you put a reasonably good three-centre box in front of him. He feels more confident to be able to do things and come and clear. The defenders themselves are playing better and they seem to be popping up the second balls and the second chances that have fallen. That's all you want. It's not rocket science. It's just good football. I remember all the cards for defensive coaches and everything that went down before Christmas. I remember that my take on it was, there's no point in just putting somebody in as a defensive coach if the manager doesn't want a defensive coach. There's no point in putting a fellow in, just superimposing a fellow in, because it may not work with the style. And to Roger's credit, no, I don't quite know what I'm going for. You know, I've criticized him, put it up. He was credit. He's figured out a system that's work defensively for him. And that was all we could ask for. You know what I mean? I actually thought the weekend was probably one of our weaker defensive displays that we've shown since he's gone to trade at the back. But, you know, we got the win, and that's all that matters. It's not a league win, but it's a win and it keeps the run that we're on go. Jim, you flagged up the idea of the defense being a considerable help to him. And there was a lot of talk, I think, in advance of that match that Lovern might come in, but Brendan chose to leave the unit intact, as it were. And the match turned out to be a bit of a triumph for Sacco, who had a few walls and had a lot of criticism in the previous match. I'm not sure where you would stand on Skirtle's performance and Channa in a very, very impressive game. Told me about that unit and the wisdom of keeping them together in that game of the weekend. Well, I think in years gone by when you used to have two centre backs when you had a back four. The two positions you didn't really want to change, even when you were rotating, which you centre back. So when you're playing three at the back, I think really you need to keep the three of them intact as much as you can. And because they're doing so well, you know, it would be a shame to break them up, even though there's that temptation to stick Channa further forward to get him into midfield, especially with the plays we've got missing. At the same time as that, you've still got that worry about Lovern because, you know, he wasn't looking good earlier on in the season. And you don't want to bring him in and risk things, but I think the way that he's being done to kind of bring Lovern on late, not probably a bad idea, he's not going to deal with the whole game, he's got a chance to see what's going on. And, you know, overall though, I think I still think our first choice back three for them to stay with, that is a three that was starting, went all the time lately. Skirtle, I was disappointed with him in some ways, but then there were times when he did make a difference, he did look good, and I think again, every player has a day where they have a wobble, and I think that was his day for the wobble. Jams are one play, we've not seen ever wobble yet really, and I think what we've got to watch with him really is that we don't put too many expectations on him because he's still only a young player, he's still settling in as good as he looks, and we don't want to kind of, you know, build him up too much. Far too late for that, Jams, far too late for that. That's probably an adventure, without getting carried away. But then again, saying that, he's living up to it, so, you know, let's enjoy it while we camp. Yeah, absolutely, Andy, quite a lot of people told us about Sacco, particularly, I'd like to look at his performance because he had gotten a lot of criticism in the last match. We people like John, they were talking about how, you know, on the back of that match, Sacco has the presence to be captain of the club eventually. What was your take on him on the day? Yeah, I mean, that's superb, not terrible, you know, just a decent Sacco performance. Now, I mean, just very little complaining about, and it's the thing with Sacco, it's just such a, you know, with Sacco, we're always looking for, some people are just all amazed by him. Yeah, well, I just used to say, because you're not. No, I'm not, but then, like, I'm convinced when, though, I'm convinced he's the best Santa back at the club, but that's not hard. I'm like in his trade at the back team because I don't think we can play it. We don't have a competent parent to play two Santa backs, and then we'll follow the backs. We don't have it. There's probably no one across the back four who's fully competent in the back four. So the way it's working there was, it was perfect at the moment. So, yeah, with Sacco, like, yeah, he's on convinced by him, and I think he's a long future, and he kind of, the thing at the end with the crowd, like, you know, I love that, you know. It was terrible to feel that he was nearly gone out of the club in January, where we felt, like, possibly. But now he seems like he's feeling a little bit more at home, then he wouldn't know that he's French palazzera. [LAUGHTER] I'm not sure where you're going. [LAUGHTER] Steve, what was it? Thanks for the xenophobia, Ernie. [LAUGHTER] Talk to me a little bit about Sacco and the rest of the fans, if you want. Yeah, look, I'm actually with Andy. I didn't think he had an amazing performance. I didn't think he did anything wrong. I think he just had a seven-hour-ten game. You know, I think that was it. And the same with, you know, like everybody, Andy was saying there, you know, you're going to have the people who are trying to find the absolute magnificence in what he's done, and other people trying to find every little time he took an extra half-second on the ball to slayed him for it. Not many people are doing that with Chan at the minute, because, you know, he's playing so well, but I still would like to see him out of that factory as well. Yeah. And especially for, not maybe the Pacific this game, but definitely for the Southampton game. So, come on, come on to that. That means reintroducing up lower. Yeah, yeah, and I'm okay with that. I wanted that to happen at the weekend. Yeah. You know, I actually... It was a shock that it didn't look like that. Well, I talked about them doing it for the Sporris game in the pod we lost. Yeah. So, no one will ever know that actually exists. No, I didn't say that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, I... I liked that. It's probably... It's probably maybe best that it didn't happen. But the truth is that I don't see anything in Joe Allen to make me confident that he's in the right position at the moment. So, you know, the difference that M.R.H. and can make every time he comes into that role is phenomenal. And that means Lovren slotting into that factory. And Jim touched on it there. The way they've actually tried to introduce Lovren for half an hour a game, 25 minutes, whatever it is, just to get him in, get his nerve settled, get him used to working in that system. I'm sure he's working in it every day of the week. I'm finishing the winner on the pitch as well. Yeah, absolutely. You've got this... I still don't think... I think Lovren has taken a huge, a huge amount of flak for how shit we were in a back four. And people never... Quite worried because he was particularly shit in that back four. He was, but Skirtle was fucking pissed as well. And so were the fallbacks. You know what I mean? It was just a bad, cohesive... Phil's just taking the lip off himself there. But no, it was just a bad unit. And I think he's well better than what people are giving him credit for. I think he will come in. He will get himself into a solid position in that back three. And we'll get to see Emory Chan in the center of the park. In the center of the park. Phil, how quickly do you want to see that happen? I mean, two minds in it. Strange enough I am. I've been championing Emory Chan in the center of the park for the whole season. But, you know, we've got a system on the defense that's working. And we can't afford any stipips. And, you know, sometimes you don't need to upset the Albert Hart. Like, I know, Steve has said he wasn't done in press with John. I thought John had a fine game on Saturday. I thought he didn't offer a lot of really good things. And it was back to the way Adam was playing in his best. But, you know, for me, I thought the defense went great. And I thought the first half they were pretty poor. And got cuffed up too many chances to Crystal Palace. The goal was a classic pre-Christmas defense of Blunder. And, you know, from Emory Chan had his worst game in defense for me since he went in there. Like, he just seemed out of the boil completely. He wasn't track and runners. He was doing all the things that you'd malign. The other defenders were. And, you know, even the, even the, even the, even the, the save that's many, like, makes, it comes off the back to people who aren't track and we get his own. They went, didn't seem to be able to pick him up at all. So, we got away with it. We got the result. Of the three, Sacco was, was, was by far and away the best defender in the park. But he wasn't, he wasn't the imperious Sacco that we saw against Wayne. But I think, the thing about what, what, overall though, the gesture Andy mentioned, like, that's phenomenal. That's just brilliant stuff. You know what I mean? That, that links the players. And even during the week, you saw him out and he was walking in the community. And he put the paintbrush and the tones in the air and he, he just has, he doesn't, he seems to have a magnificent, magnificent, dry, wet face. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, he rarely smiles in the pictures, but you're almost laughing because it's just like, he has the most serious faces in the, the most unserious situation. And it's just like, I'd say he's a gas fucker to be around. The best thing about that whole video, do you see the video here? He goes after and it was, it was where he started doing his Brandon impression. In the middle of it, you know, because the one of the guys said to him, you know, maybe paint left a bit, right, but whatever. And he goes, "Yes, boss, yes, boss." Like, you know, as if, as if, you know, as if he shot in the Brandon. Yeah, yeah. Which, like, I think you're dead, right? You think he is a character. Like, you do need those. Yeah. And I, I also, I also knocked on a pitch. He, you know, he was very vocal. We talked, we've talked about this about the lack of vocal presence on it. And you could, you could see him screaming at the referee and everything as, as the, as the match was wearing on. So that's a great sign in terms of a player's development. You know, we were talking about the lack of voices and the whole, and he's, that he's obviously starting to feel more comfortable in that position. Which is going to say it's the sign of a player who feels comfortable in, in his own start and 11 position. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's, he's now starting to put, put, put his personality onto the pitch. And that's a good thing. That's, that's a very good thing for, for, for what goes on. I thought Skirtle had, had, had, had another Skirtle in Crystal Palace game. Fucking hairbrained moments all over the shop. But you know, that's what you get with Skirtle. Even as Jim says to it, you get it with all defenders. But he seems to like to do them in, in, in, in. Was it, was it not a crack? Just, just my, I'm trying to remember back because I didn't have a look back over the goals today. I didn't get a chance to. Was it not Chan who lost the runner for? He lost the runner for the, for the goal. For the goal. Yeah. Skirtle. Like if that was, we have to, we have to pick that up as well. You know what I mean? If that was any other thing. That's, that's what I'm saying. He had his worst, I thought he was better in the second half. I thought it was interesting when, when Love and Dick come on that he went to almost wing back. Dave will have heard us now just slate Chan and be smashing his iPhone off. Yeah. Off the car now. How dare you? We're, we're, we're our child fans, right? We are. And Dave's, and probably feel at the biggest, the fucking possibly is out there. So we listened to an awful lot. We'll deal with the rest of us. We can't be impressed. And then you get, you know, yeah. And then you get the odd person on Twitter are, you know, one of your, one of your mates that I'm talking about Chan and they're not that impressed with him. And they pull out things like he gets skinned a lot. He doesn't track a lot. So is that the reason why he hasn't been trusted in the middle of the park? Is that the reason why? Or is it just a case where I don't see anyone wants to just play? I think it's, it's, it's as you said, I think if, if, if you don't particularly like a player, then their, their mistakes are magnified at infinite. That's the circle thing. I'd say, look, that's, that's me with, with Jensen. Like, you know, every time you're, you're waiting for the mistake and you're picking open your own in, and you see, that's what, that's, that's what's after. No, what I mean, like, if you think, think about it, if we're going to pour him in the defense and be fair rolly to screen that defense, and it's not going to improve anything. If he's kind of be letting players drift past, like Jared, or Zara. Well, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. Like, sometimes he does give up a little bit. It, once he's gone, somewhere he gives up with it. Yeah, I know what that mental thought. I know what that mental thought. Yeah, I know what that mental thought. And we see him with a main kilo player that they, the, the, uh, rifle, right wing back at Moreno. They get done, and then they're back just as quick. Yeah. You don't see that front shot. I don't know whether it's. I don't have, I have seen one of those. When he, when he came in to the right-hand side of that tree, I, I made the comment that he was getting skinned a bit by people. But, by fuck, he was doing his best to actually make it up. You know, fair enough, Skirtle was coming across the cover, and he was getting back in behind Skirtle to try. Yeah, but he was there. But he was there. And, and I don't think, I don't think it's a case of not being trusted. I think Rogers came across a set up with Lucas in that defensive midfield role. And Chan in the right of that tree that he thought, why would I change it now? Now that, now that it's happened, that Lucas is out. Yeah. And Jared's out. And his option is either Alan or move Chan in. Yeah. And I don't think he had, I don't think he had the faith in Lovren to drop Lovren into that back tree. Yeah. First thing I think the time is now, it has to happen now that Jammy was into midfield and put Lovren back into the team. He's had enough time out of, out of, out of the set up there. Yeah. Watching from the stands. I watched him from a bench and then coming on and playing it. I'm training every day. It's very clear what Rogers is doing. It's just, it's not a case of where he does or he doesn't. It's when. Yeah. And I think it has to, absolutely has to happen. Chan's the centre of the failure. Everything good he's done has been pretty much, you know, when talking about the good things he's done. The really good thing. That's just the average sort of slotted in and played. The good things he's done is all been from. Well, if you're watching the end of that game, he's driving that game. It's like, it's like when you put yourself up at 99 on the Xbox or whatever and you're just running the show from right back. Yeah. That's what he was doing. Yeah. He was pushing up and he was running that show. Yeah. It was. It was. It was. Well, look, let's talk about a guy who might be under a bit of pressure then. If he does move up for his place and that's Joe Allen Jim. Talk to me about Joe Allen's performance and they feel early on. They're saying that he thought he was a bit back to himself. He seemed to take a while to play himself back into a bit of form there. Yeah. I think he's a player who needs a few games to get back into it. When he first arrived going back to Roger's first season, he looks OK. He did actually look good and I think what we found then was that the kind of player he was built up to be. He couldn't be because Lucas got that injury and he ended up playing a deeper role on his own, which really wasn't what he was brought in to do. Yeah. But, you know, he sort of went off the bar that he never really got as good as he was at the beginning. But I think as good as he gets and he's not, you kind of, you probably wouldn't get into your first 11. He's a good player to have in the squad and I think he does need to run a game to get to his best. And I think, you know, I think Saturday was one of his best games in a while. He just, to me, I didn't really notice him doing anything wrong. He's got some big beats to fill. I mean, we've seen how much we struggled to get anyone to play in that position. Stephen Gerard struggled to play in that position. Lucas, even though that's his best position, took a long time, if you like to get to the levels of fitness and confidence to play in the position. So I think it is a difficult position for us. We've never really found anyone who's just right for it. And I think Alan, Alan, you're OK. Whether he's doing enough to keep me to play, so I'm not sure. I mean, if Chan, if Chan doesn't move up into that position, one of my worries would be, again, what we just mentioned then about him having the discipline. Because you kind of feel that Chan wants to get up with the business and get some goals. Yes, he does. The setup is in a prop. As long as like the likes of Henderson are aware that that's going on, you know, and they get back in, you know, it would be ready to cover if needed. So what happens a lot is how well he plays a team. And that's what was good about Saturday, so plays like Alan, benefit from when you play in as a team. What did you think of them as a two, Alan and Henderson? I think this time for that to get better, I think they can build up and understand it. They're both quite intelligent players as well. I never thought I would have said about Henderson a couple of years ago. But I think, you know, they've got enthusiasm and intelligence between them and probably respect for each other as well. So, again, I don't think it would be your first choice per in at all. But when you're in a position where you're a couple of players down, I think it's okay. It'll do the job. And if you play like they did on Saturday, so, you know, they can clear that role and some people get this again. Yeah. Stable, what about that from Jim there? They'll do the job. Would you be happy enough to see Handel and Alan as a two going forward from the next couple of matches? No, not particularly. I think we might be in trouble again, Southampton. They line up quite similar or have done in the last while to how Liverpool did last season. And that's my worry, you know, is that I think we may be overrun with Alan in the center of the park there. Okay. I just don't think he gives – he's a vanilla player for me. I can't take him. Like Jim said, I was really hoping for the best from him when he started out in that four season. But after six, seven games of that four season, I haven't seen anything in him to make me think he's a player that can actually bring us forward. He is the level of Swansea. You know, he'd be a – he's John Josh Elvie. He's, you know, he's that level of – you know what I mean? He's that level of player. He's, you know, he's Scott Parker when he was at Spurs. He's that player for me. He's just that six and a half out of ten centre midfielder. You know, you have to have them in your squad, but here's the problem with having Alan in your squad. As the lads have said, he needs a few games to get up to any sort of decent level. If you're going to have squad fillers to give your first 11 a break, they need to be players who can come in and nearly hit the ground, Ronnie. And I don't think Alan does that. I think he needs two or three games. He looks rusty and looks out of the pace every time he comes into the side for a couple of games. Fair enough. Fair enough. And he – he used to get serious abuse for a couple of years, I was short in Henderson. He's since been getting nothing but praise, but it's – you could say over recent weeks that maybe his game hasn't been just as wonderful as it can be. No, his game hasn't been great as he is, and that's very similar. Even with the team starting to perform a lot better over the last couple of months, he hasn't really reached the level that he did last season. But then he's still crapping up. Yeah, that ball he played in for a storage. Tremendous pass. I mean, that's his and his locker. And he still looks so young. And I mean, I'm just relish watching him next year. Like I think once Jared's gone, that was an extra bit of a responsibility. But no, in terms of his performance at the moment, look at the fella's title to have average games, and that's pretty much what he has been. But still – still would never drop him. He probably doesn't help him that he's so many different partners in there as well. Yeah, that's a very good point. You know, you're talking about 10-1/2 partnerships. Yeah, sentiment feels the same. I mean, how difficult was it for him when he was playing right when he was in the middle? And then he was before the fall, then playing with your eyes, he would say, with a different partner. It's very impossible. You know, like a gym was saying about the center back partnership, you never want to break it. It sounds really good, you don't want to break it. No, if you can help it. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and they're all very different. They come into the team, be it Luke, as Alan Gerard, like we saw it, and they're totally, totally different players. And he's having to adapt his game to who's coming in beside him as well all the time, even if he's still in sentiment. But I would like to say I'm starting to kind of take more chances, and he seems a little less confidence on the ball. Like, he wants to move it very quick. He wants to, you know, think it's fucking happening. We just want to move it on real quick, you know. It's a strength team though, isn't it? Because he does keep the thing going like, you know. He does, but when he has these passes in his locker. Yeah, you want to see him use it, you know. He was all his best attributes. And when he can't get out wide, when he can bring the ball on 20, 30 yards, play it until he'll get wide. And when he has that delivery in his locker. Yeah. You want him to at least drag a man towards him. Yeah. And open stuff up a little bit. And as you say, he's probably not doing that as much as he did last year. The problem when he does drag men onto him, that's when he starts getting a bit nervous. He plays, you know, then passes where they're difficult for the person that's receiving the ball through control. Yeah. Because they're bubbling a bit. Yeah. Because you can see there's a bit of shit on the ball. [laughter] It's kind of like the cycle passes. Yeah. And even possible to control. You want to have a fairly decent total. Because you don't know what pace it's going to come in. Close Henderson was playing a lot of balls into Suarez last year where he was killing the dead. It didn't matter. You could smack another face. And even kill me, just turning as the ball was coming towards him and kicking it on with the next droid and bounce off shit. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck that guy. He's got a nice goal. Do you want to shoot up? Talk to me a little bit about Lazar Markovitch and having to go off. And the decision the UEFA seem to have made today that I think it's looking like four games that he's going to be out for. For his red card? For his red card for his little flick in the face in the Champions League final game. That's only been dealt with now. Yeah. I had to replay them. They are quick after my kid's away. What the fuck? How could you punish a martyr? Well, apparently you can't appeal unless it's a case of mistaken identity. It's not a case of mistaken identity. It wasn't me. It was sack on me. Yeah. So, so... Well, come here. That's the same Lazar Markovitch to play before, Chris. No, it's not my name. We're really sure it was a brilliant man. Just show the videos. Now that is me. It's not a shit. I'm a wing back. Yeah. I'm a wing back. Yeah. He couldn't kick him out of there. What'd you take him with the weaker? Who, Markovitch? Yeah. Yeah. Good. Look, you know, he's doing well there. You know, he's grown into the team and he's doing well in that position. You know, long may I continue? He gives us an outlet. Again, a bit like the last game as well. I don't think they were his two best games, but, you know, for a fellow who's taken a while to get into the team, come in, he's doing relatively well and they are going to, he's a young player as well. So he's going to have more peaks and truffs than, say, more season players because they don't use the pace in themselves. It's his first time in the league. He's not going to be used to pace himself. He's being out of the sand. He's the reincarnationist. You're a dermal. But anyway, do you know that? Well, but to be fair, like, he wasn't taking off at halftime the other day because he was playing poorly. It was because it was a change in formation and tactics. So someone has to make way. And your obvious options there are either Moreno or Markovitch in one of those wide positions. But again, you know, he does the right things. We needed something different because I don't think unless you've got Sterling up with storage, who's also an auxiliary forward as well as being one of the wide forwards beside him, I don't think storage plays particularly well when he's so isolated. No, to his credit, he still did very well in the fourth half. You know what I mean? You know, he should have had a penalty as well. That was a penalty all day long. But at the same time, I still think he looks a lot more dangerous when he has somebody else up alongside him and just gets him up. You're probably not allowed. You're probably not allowed. So he can isolate and send him back. He's still rusty. Yeah. You know, he's only a couple of gamers back in. You're saying about Moreno. I think Moreno in this little spell, he, again, has ups and downs. But his ups, his downs aren't as low as most of the other fullbacks that we've had in the club. And there's no way you'd take him out because he gives us so much weight and he gives us so much attack on track. It's like you said last week, right? Look around. He's got the penalty spot. What's the left wing back there? Yeah. And then the fellas break and then you turn around and he's there beside you again. Yeah. His recovery pace is fantastic. And stamina. Yeah. And he just goes and goes. So the two players that you offer are so much. I know Mark of it just tomorrow, attack and treble. Two is credit. He never gives up on getting back and covering the whole lot. I think Mark of it didn't have a particularly good game. I think we struggled down that side in the fourth half. As I've said, right? I think both him and Chan were off the pace compared to what they have been recently. But, you know, I don't think the substitution was a reflection on him particularly. As as Steve has said, it was more to change the system and try to give ourselves an auxiliary tread up front along so it's the origin. Listen, if we can work like a dream, so many of our substitutions through the course of the season hasn't worked at all. And that substitution changes the whole complexion of the game. Yeah. Well, I suppose that brings us on Jim to Adam Alana who's forced to kind of change his role a little bit. Kind of a gratifying to see him, you know, pulling a bit of decent form together and actually popping up with a goal every so often as well or an assist. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I believe that from what Rajesh was saying afterwards, he kind of won that free kick. But you've still got to pull it off and he was sharp to what was going on. He ran in. He got the rebound. And he looks happy as well. There's been times earlier on in the season when he hasn't looked happy. And he's probably one of those plays who needs that feeling. You know, that feeling of being a little bit happier in his game. I'm not really sure what his position is. In this side, you know, what his ideal position is. I think there's probably a couple and I think it's time goes on into a play with his kind of shape. You know, he'll be tried in a few different ways. What you want though, I mean, he's an expensive player. But what you're wanting to play to play whatever the bottom will do, do the best. And just going back to Markovich briefly, he reminds me of Patti Berger in a lot of ways. Oh, yeah. Because Patti Berger would be like, it'd be a player you want to have in your team where you couldn't guarantee you'd play brilliantly every game. But what he did, you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, he's a bit of that with Markovich. And maybe there's a little bit of that with Lelana. I mean, he's not the fastest, but he's determined, he's experienced. And, you know, it was, as you say, which is good to see him go to go. Yeah. Yeah. And he talked to me about the, about the, that end of the pitch now. You know, the last of talk, touched on Danny storage briefly there. And let's just go straight to the introduction of Battle Telly. I mean, I know I've talked to you about this guy many times. I think he'll invite you specifically to, like, there's an impact there, right? Yeah. Yeah. I can't even want to say it about me. It's an easy place to play tomorrow until they get coming in. Yeah. People don't have enough other bad things to say about the repeal of tomorrow. That's all for us. So don't feel they need to blame someone. So Battle Telly isn't getting as much blame for his little bits and pieces. But I'm not sure whether he's, I don't think the fella's capable of changing how he plays and making the decision to do to anything different. I don't think he has the intelligence. He would have done it before now. So, but he does just seem to be, since his last couple of sub appearances, he does seem to be doing the right things more. Is it because he doesn't feel he needs to be the hero now? Because we're gonna score and goals for fun. We're scoring most games and we're out scoring pretty much everything we play now. So, I'm not too sure what it is that has them doing all the right things again, but I like it. Yeah. And if this was Battle Telly at the start of the season, I'd be like saying, all right, great. This is what we thought we were in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I still don't think he lasts at Liverpool, but we've got fucking, whatever it is, he would match his left now, including the FA Cup and Europa League. He's gonna have to play some part ever to do anything. Yeah. But it's finished, fought, windy or open, windy FA Cup. Battle Telly's gonna do something along the way. He's gonna have to, I mean, he's at least ahead of Lambert now on the pecking order, like as much as we slag off, or we slag off, Battle Telly. Jesus Christ, like, happy birthday, see. Yeah. He's nearly at the pension. I mean, fucking hell. But Battle Telly, that free, like, years great at the set of pieces and, you know, all he has to do is beat the wall and the keepers in trouble. But he balloons them fucking balls straight down the neck, like the soil of the foot and balls way over and all over the shop. Keepers can't really parry them any other way or don't straight back out to go. And la lana is as cute as I am in on top of it. To be fair, you'd absolutely shit yourself. It would be fun to go for those free kicks as well, though, wouldn't you? Yeah. You'd be digging yourself. This is either a spelony or me for care. I love you in the second tier. Yeah, yeah. I'm in the upper stand. But, um, la lana, the lana there was red there on Twitter there. Um, he's got the most goals and assists ratio per minute now of all all the Liverpool players. Oh, it's soil from storage. Yeah. Yeah. So there you go. I mean... It's a contribution for when he's on the pitch. Yeah. Pretty much all the soil and now have sort of... Have started to kick in a bit. Have a bit of a say. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even call him a soil. It was kind of just a make-a-wish. [laughter] You know? [laughter] With the exception of Spouse Lovern as well, he started to come in. So I like this little bit of his little cameo there. There was a lovely kind of cushioned 60-yard pass. Do you remember that? Yeah. It was lovely. Yeah. I mean, if there's anything that most of attractive Rogers to Lovern is his pass and ability. So, like, can't God now all the soil and... It's starting to see. I've shown... Stable, just on battle to finish airwood. And we did something in from Tim Johnson. He said, "When you compare it to Baltrale storage, people are going to do this." He reckons that he can see Baltrale pressing more. And, you know, it's something that maybe doesn't get crowded for. Would you come in behind that or would you have been trying to agree with that? Well, I don't know if that's down to the famous YouTube video that's being made now recently. Yes. [laughter] No, listen, you know, when he... Against Stas was the other night when he came on, he actually did a huge amount of work. And he did his best to close people down and really get involved. At the weekend, I don't know if there's much of a difference between them. I think that's how Rogers likes his forward players playing anyway. I think he wants them. I think yet again, that's another criticism with Lambert. Is that he doesn't have the ability and the stamina to do that for whatever prolonged period of time. But no, they're two very different players. You know, and Baltrale would be closing down whatever defensive units near them. But I'm glad to see him back in the side in the sense that any player, it doesn't matter how much we've slated them this season. But if they come in and they're doing well, then why wouldn't we be happy? You know what I mean? I never want to see a Liverpool player playing poorly just to verify our points that we've made on here. You know, if that means Johnson coming in and having a blinder for the rest of the season and Phil having an aneurysm then so be it. That's the way it is. [laughter] That's killing two words once down, isn't it? Can I just say, you know, for Baltrale, we've crowded a mini-lay with the mental strength to come on back. Baltrale still has a long way to go for redemption, if you know what I mean. It still has a long way to go in Rodgers' eyes for redemption as well. But he was credit, you know, he's come on the last two games and there is a thing about the present. He was running all over the pitch, closing down players and everything in the last two games and it's something you haven't seen. You know, since he came in, even in the sports game, he's running in, he's winning the ball in the corner and you know, and it's something that we hadn't put to him. But it's interesting when you say, well, you know, storage doesn't, Baltrale does more pressing than storage. When you score a goal again, you can basically take a dump on the pitch and roll around if it was, right? Sorry, true. Once you score... Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Basically, you can do whatever the hell you want if you're going to guarantee a goal again because if you keep a clean sheet, your team wins. I'll tell you what, lads, you're not impressed. I'll just bang this one in there. I'll just bang this one in there. And it doesn't matter. And that's what we get with storage. Tori, I get goals in 57 games I think it is now, right? It's phenomenal. Yeah, yeah. And it's a phenomenal run raise. And you know, all you want is him to keep that up because even... He does look a bit roasted. There's still that isn't real freedom of movement that we're used to. You know, when he glides past players and he's doing the equally magical things, as far as you used to do. That's fucking brilliant. Yeah, he was there, wasn't it? But look, he's done something everywhere. But this is it, you know. Henderson's bottom is immaculate, right? Yeah. But as it drops, it's just, it's a thunderbolt finish. It's brown as you never get those legs closed. And you know, he's putting it that close to the keeper's legs. That's what good strikers always do. And that's why they seem to score so many nuts, goals and goalkeepers from close range. And you know, the dance, a marino. Brilliant. They hinted a river dance going on. There was a bit of a micker flatly there. I was waiting for him to come dancing across. It was just monumental. Because you see, stories going on over to give the dance. The next middle marino appears out now. Wait for me, wait for me. Wait for me, wait for me. I know it's like the pair are going to pass through the two chickens in the forest half, right? I was like, yes, this, no, this is it. That's why it's giving him this. This is bloody pop in '80s. We're going to go back on the goalhead, yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, it's not to finish on it down, though, but we should acknowledge Phil Catino's performance. And some people may say it's not down. It may be said that he was wonderful, but I was wondering about the wisdom of playing Andy Catino for 79 minutes when apparently he had been injured. You know, and that was one of the reasons he was taking off in the last match and so on. Yeah, what you're thinking about this? I couldn't believe it when I'm saying I'm starting because it's quite clear we've been playing the last, whatever, 17 games or something madly about games. You know, like his last two performances before Palace were terrible. Like, you know, and you can make any excuse up in the world, you know, where he was playing with Jared, and he was occupying his space or whatever it was. Everyone kicked the bollocks in. He's performed, stepped, and it's nothing more he needs than a break now. Yeah. And it's not going to come. Strangely, he didn't get it then. It's not going to happen until Sterling's back. The problem is as well that, you know, he couldn't play it. Yeah, couldn't play it. So you could've dropped the land in where Catenia was, but without Eubon, Sterling, you were leaving yourself with Balotelli Starden, which didn't give you the options off the bench. So I can kind of see where he came from on it. Yeah, there was not one really to come in a such, but at the same time, for the rest of the season, we're going to need Catenia. Yeah. Have to fart a little bit. Jim, last word on that to you, the lads are saying we're going to need them. It's like the games there, when you think about the games, you know, we can possibly drop them for our league games, but this is not going to drop for league games. Yeah, I think the trouble is that we've got a manager who's not really up to speed with rotation the way that you might have like your classic European managers might be knowing how you've got to kind of change the team slightly game to game. So it's always a fresh 11 out there as much as possible. He does like to stick with the same players if you can. And I think that's going to cost us as the season goes on. And if we do have a bit of a running year-old league, we'll be carried on with two games a week. We've still got more FA Cup games to come. I think he's got to be careful. And I think, you know, Catenia has been brilliant. He's been a big part of the revolution we've had this season from what he's started out like from the bad side of the thing. But yeah, you've got to sometimes got to think long-term as well. And playing in every game isn't going to do him any favors. I mean, Sterling got a holiday, you know, Sterling looked like he needed a rest. He got a holiday. He came back about a player. We just don't want to be in a situation where we're losing. And we've got, especially we have got certainly for league games. We've got all the players that can come in and we can shuffle things around and, you know, and make do without it. So we've got him for the big game. But whatever about him stepping out for Europa League ties or, you know, hopefully the next FA Cup match, you know, with Southampton and City coming up and then Burnley soon after that. He, he don't want to matter if any of those really do you. That's it. They're the games you've got to save him for. And I think, you know, Roger's maybe needs to sit down now and just think long-term, you know, plan to the next five or six games in a row where he's going to use people. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Sounds like a good spot for us to wrap it up. Okay. Right. Let's take a look forward at the games to come. And we've got a pretty difficult run. On Thursday, Sunday, coming up, Bessictus, then Southampton, Bessictus again, City, and then Burnley on the following Wednesday. With that in mind, then what we talked about in the review, obviously selection is going to be an issue. What do we know, first of all, about this game on Thursday and the opposition that we could be facing. The Turk side Bessictus, Phil, I think you did a little bit of work on this, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, it's a little trip down memory lane when we go back across the plane again. But, you know, the danger players from, you know, we've obviously got Demba Bar. We all know Demba. We do. From last season. Yes. We won't be forgetting him too quickly. But they were young for the, I think it's 23 or 24, Gakan Torre. We were linked with him as far as I know. I think when Cumbly was at the club and he ended up going to Ruben Cooney. And he's just hard to attack Emile Fielder Roy Seidad forward. And he's been good for him. I think he's played about 18 and 19 games. He's got about nine goals from this season. And he's come up with a few assists as well. So, he's definitely one that we need to keep our eyes peeled for. And then there's another goal. He's their number 10, all-choy Sahan. He used to play in Germany as well. Mm-hmm. And his, basically, they're sort of a playmaker that goes on as well. So, you know, I don't know much about them. Because, like, I'll joke on my side, I haven't watched any games. I'd be safe to play. But, you know, some of the players that played in the Bundesliga, I would've seen. But first side, the top of their league, when they currently are at the point. Yeah. Listen, they've only lost one under last five, which is the last game. Yeah. But the big thing is they've lost their goal-keeper owners this much. Mm-hmm. Although, this is classic Liverpool. Yeah, yeah. They're heroic. They've been displayed from the 47-year-old, one-legged keeper that they had to pull out of a bush. Yeah. Yeah. It was being trapped in the ad talk stadium. Yes. I was in the following stage. He was only signed with fucking registration forms four hours before kickoff. But, you know, it's definitely one that we want. You know, listen, for me, the Europa League is a way into the Champions League. And if you've got a route into the Champions League, given that we have to get past three teams to finish top four in our own league and, you know, three very strong teams, there's a realistic chance of winning the Europa League here. Mm-hmm. And we have to take... I think we have to treat this very seriously because any ruled into the Champions League shouldn't be ignored and shouldn't be treated lightly. And we shouldn't be gone out to, you know, just make up the numbers. And if we get real great, if we don't, we should be focusing on this competition. And also, I know we can't win the Champions League. But if we can't win the Champions League, what better way that so-and-off Stephen Gerard's created? It's not... Not for me, it isn't a trip to Wembley. It's winning a European trophy because that symbolized his time at Liverpool, winning the UEFA Cup, winning the Champions League. They stand out their European trophies. And, you know, it's not the UEFA Cup of old, but it still holds a significance. And if it gets us into the Champions League and Gerard gets to sign off in his last European game, lifting the European trophy, for me, there's no better way for him to sign off as Captain of the Club. Yeah, Jim, broaden that out a bit for us. I think I kind of started off with that run of fixtures that we have, and talk to me about prioritization. It's something we've spoken about an awful lot lately when it comes to selection. How do you see that working? I mean, earlier on you were saying it's not maybe a strength of the managers, the rotation aspect of things. Like, what's going to happen here with the Thursday Sunday run? I think he's got... I think he's got enough place to change things around a little bit the way I was speaking about. I mean, you don't want to mess about, we've said really with the battery in terms of fitness at least, but there is that bit of an option that you could bring love in if needed. Prioristly wise, I think you've got to take each game as it comes. You've got to spread your players out, and you want to keep winning. I don't think you want to... one of the downsides to kind of playing a week in team for a game like your overall league game is that it can kind of take away that momentum that you're building up. You know, we had a good win on Saturday. Another good win against Shit To Sit Home, sets us up for the second leg, gets us ready for Southampton, we're on a bit of a roll. So, I mean, priority wise, it's... To me, it's not about making big games stand out as much as just keeping it smoothly, taking over. You know, so, it's easy saying that, of course, that if you go and have a play, a loss for the bigger game, but, you know, we've got a big enough squad to develop, play games recently, I think. You know, we can treat every game almost equally. And the Europa League, you know, that's silverware, we need some more of that. Yeah, yeah. Well, look, not to confuse the issue only, but just to clarify something, because the draws just happen tonight. We are in the next round, the FA Cup. And that is a consideration. It's one more game anyway, against Blackburn at home. Do we have the date of that first? The next one. The next one. I'll tell you now. Anyway, the point is, to go back to a point Phil was making there, and the point it was made last week, which is the priority for you. Between your old and FA Cup. Yeah. Again, like Jim was saying, you can't prioritize. You have to take each game as a cons and re-prioritoids as it goes on. Okay. The FA Cup, like, there's not many games left to play, and if we want to win it, personally, you know, it'll go on ill. Yeah. You know, we should be able to be black-born, boy-roll-tating, boy-resting, whoever needs to be rested at the time. Yeah. You know, if Balletetty's playing well, that story's have a rest. Right. If we have a live camp play, but, you know, if you have a fit squad, you have to continue that rest. So, take it as a cons. I don't know if we'd be busy because here we get next, but it could be a week or 10, rest then. You know what I mean? If we get a decent win, if we entry our forward, this is far and ill, and Thursday, then go over there and rest. Yeah. So, it's, you're kind of, like, it's re-prioritoids. It's very difficult to answer that now. We could be in a fucking really position where we can't rest any one as a cons, and that's happened constantly with Rogers. Most of us rest and rotate, and it's kind of being forced with the exception of Sterling when he sent them off on holiday. But, like, let's hope that you have a fit in now. That are 16, that are on file for rest this season, who you can trust, are bringing in now. Yeah, I respect for them. No, no, Torre is back from them, yolks now. Yeah. So, from them yolks. I can do it, I can do it, I can do it, I can do it. I can do it, I can do it, I can do it. I can do it, I can do it. I can do it, I can do it, I can do it. They're all cool. Yeah. Yeah, so, you can trust our fellow, especially in a tree. Again, like, you wouldn't fall compartment, too. Yeah. But, even trust in a tree, let's see what happens. Yeah. Yeah, well, is that going to be very much what's going to happen? The three lads have said, basically, you assess per game, still. Yeah, but for me, I think Europa has to be, like, there's probably only two teams in the last 32 that I think are at the same sort of level. The tree, the same sort of level as us. And that would be Roma, Spores, and Wolfsberg. Yeah, they'd be the three that I would see at the league. Yeah, they are. And as a Roma, you know what I mean? You can't knock them. They have quality right throughout their side. And they're very well set up. They're the three that I would see. And you have to give Spores their due. Like, we are where we are in the league, and they are where they are. So, they're probably near enough power to us. So, they're probably the three that I would say, you know, are real danger teams. So, other than that, you should be looking at anybody else you get, regardless of what rounds we're in, and thinking, we're better than these. These are, we're the favourites here. Here's one for you, right? Good. Been a romanticism. Right? Who is this? Who is this? Well, we don't want Phil. Yeah. Liverpool versus everything. Europa Cup final. Steven DeRarge, last game. That would be amazing. Liverpool versus anyone. You robbed a cup final. There's can't be games against everything we show. And he taught that was the last game. Does that mean he starts? Well, who cares? No, no. Do you know what I mean? That can still happen. That can still happen. Yeah, I can't. Yeah. But what is the final on? Um, good answer, is it? Don't worry. It doesn't matter. It's not this birthday. One of those yolks. One of those yolks. Um, but no, in fairness, right? The one thing about Europa League that you can do on that is that you can actually afford to lose a toilet. Yes. Whereas you can't afford to lose an FA Cup match. And given the final, given the running games we have to do, go on to get champions the League in the League, we also have to win nearly every single League game. So the Europa League is the only one. If we go out and get a really good win on Torzanoi, as Andy said, three, four, Neil. You know, get a good head of steam up. We can go over there, play a second string eleven. Yeah. And once we don't have a massive collapse, we just don't have the players on the bench if you need to come on and shore it up, right? You can actually say, well, I can take a one-nil or a two-one defeat over there. And, you know, if that breaks your run, it makes no difference. Because you've won it, come out of your toy, and you go straight back in. Yes. You're still into the next round and conference is still really high. Whereas if you lose your FA Cup game, you're out of the FA Cup. If you lose a League game, it feels like you're out of the race. You're out of the race for four. Yeah. Well, the seventh match is the date for the next FA Cup. For the FA Cup. Okay. And Warsaw is where the final, the... It's close. Good answer. Yeah. Good resourceful. Good Googly. Okay. Look. It's a bit like 2001, one-cook shot, but the way 2001 went out, we didn't travel. Where every game felt like the Cup final. Yeah. Yeah. You can certainly see something like that. Sometimes, Jimmy, you can just build up that head of steam. And players that would have normally felt tired just push on. So, you know, we did that last 13, 14 games, whatever it was, at the end of last season. What, what, 14 players? It was a better squad this time. Absolutely, but I'm saying we did that with 14 players. And you were saying this has to, but they all believed, even if they were carrying knocks, they wanted to be out there starting that match. It didn't matter. You know what I mean? I think, I think, pushes as far as you can with all the tournaments and see what happens. See what happens. See what you end up with at the end? Well, okay. Well, can we, can we just focus a little bit on the Southampton match then? Seeing as we haven't given it too much attention. It is, as you said, Phil, if we won't have any chance here, our easiest route possibly to the Champions League is to do well in the league. And, you know, we can't afford to lose this one. So, would you happen to have any information about Southampton? No, did you say Trev? I may have one or two little things. Oh, God, excellent. So I was doing a little bit of looking into it today. In their last seven home games, they've only won twice. They've two draws and three losses. Their two wins were against Everton Arsenal, had two draws against Chelsea and West Ham and three losses against Man City, Man United and Swansea. So, to refer to them, the last seven home games, they've come up against some decent teams there. You know, some very good teams there, in fact. I was looking at sort of what way they've been winning games as well this season because I had a feeling in my head they've, you know, they have been very strong defensively. So, they've won six games, one nil. They've won two games, two won. Two games, two nil. One game, three nil, one game, three won. A game, four nil and a game, eight nil. Like the eight nil was against London, so that doesn't count. So, you know, to refer to them. But what I've looked at is the fact that they've tried to shut teams out and that's going to be very, very difficult against us. They're not scoring goals at the moment. They've scored six goals in their last six games and Pele is their top goal score with 12 and he hasn't scored any in those last six games. They've been from midfielders. So, is he? He's still playing though. He's played, I was checking it there today. I told him myself, maybe he's being out, he hasn't. He's playing on average. I think he's only missed a half an hour football. Maybe 40 minutes of football this season for them in the league. And not anything I'm saying here are all league. They're not cup games. They're all league games that I'm talking about here. So, Manet has two, Tadditch has two and Elia has two in their last six games. So, you know, this is why I was saying earlier on about Chiangong into the centre of midfield. Pele hasn't been a threat and I think our back three can easily manage that. What we need to be careful about is what's going to come. I think they're playing Stephen Davies and one Yama at the minute in that sort of two holding positions. And then they have Ward. Ward pros. I always go to call them Ward Primrose for some reason. I don't know why, but Ward pros, I think they're doing it between Ward pros between Manet, between Elia and Tadditch. I think they're the four that are interchanging those three positions. So, that's where, you know, that's it. But even just looking at them, that seems to be where I think we could struggle. And that's where I think Joe Allen, Jordan Henderson, too, and there might be under a bit of pressure. Whereas if you have Chan in front of that back three, I think the fact that he's been playing in that position as well, he maybe understands what's needed behind him a little bit more. And that's where I'd like to see him. You can take Chan out of any direct confrontations with Graciano Pele because the handsome Amatmer would probably break to be fair. What's your take on Southampton and the RDA? You know, Elia, as Stable says, are great, like a really effective sign. They just play really good football. Yeah. I remember years ago, we were linked with him. Yeah. And he's come in there and scored a couple on his day. You didn't he? Yeah. But as Stable says, my fair is where I won't be getting smarter than it feels. Similar to where times during the sports game, completely outnumbered. Yeah. Richard and Henderson there, who found themselves up against three and four players at times. 'Cause we're playing three at the back, so we're sacrificing the player. And then we've got these wingbacks who are quite redundant unless a team play is with. 'Cause they're picking up these fallbacks, you know, who aren't even getting involved in the attacking. So you have a lot of players going through the middle. So that's what Southampton are all about. So, you know, they're going to, they're going to, they could hold this through the middle. So it's going to be, as Stable says, it's going to be similar to the sports game you reckon in terms of... Yeah, I don't think at the moment they have the quality that sports have. Yeah. So I think we've dealt with it quite recently. So let's hope that we can deal with it again as effectively. The one thing is they haven't scored a single goal on the counterattack this season. So they're goals from open play. They're scoring the goals from open play as well. I think they've, I think they've four from set pieces and four from OG's and the rest have been from open play. Yeah. So you have to take from that, and I didn't go. But I'm not going to pretend to be some sort of cityistic of the Wiz or anything like that. I just took that from different, different places that I got fined today. Just have a bit of info. But you'd have to think that they are not adopting a direct approach. But you know what I mean? We've only scored two goals on the counterattack this season actually. And now that has to be down to the fact that we've lacked Daniel's storage. Because so much of what we did last season was the pace we had up front and the ability to have that... To finish it. That one touch, you know, get it out from under your feet and get that ball forward so quickly. It's also because we have a lot of possession as well. Yeah, absolutely. We started the season, we changed our style of play. We went back to that first year as a first year of Rogers. Pass, pass, pass, pass, pass, rather than get into their half as quickly as possible and put them under pressure. I think that's what we'll be able to damage them with this on the weekend, on Sunday. I think the ability for us to pin back the likes of Klein or whoever it might be in the full back positions. Because they'll have to worry about what we have up top. Yeah. And that might just give us that, you know, if we stretch, if we can stretch them out, if we go with that tree again with storage, I don't, Sterling won't be back, will he? I don't think that we're just going to talk about them being ready as such. Yeah, I don't know. But that's how I see it panning out at the moment. David, David, a bit of an issue I left back in the whole batch when suspended and then the fellow who came in from Ty got injured. Yeah. So I don't know who's going to play left for them. But whoever it is, you know, come on, has been run out for having them so well, defensively organized. Yeah. I think I have to go into that side. Jim, what's your take on Southampton? I mean, what do you see us having to worry about? And what do you think about this idea that we, you know, just go and play our own game and we might hopefully have that little bit extra? I think play our own game for definite because we played our own game pretty well recently. Yeah. You know, that was for stars. Capitalizing the fact that Coomans just were managing the month and actually being a bit overbought. Yeah. Yeah. Very good, yeah. And I think also, I mean, the incentive of this as well is that you win this year, a point behind them, you know, and they were the team that kind of had our top four plays, you know, early on in the season. They took our top four plays, obviously. I think, you know, when you look at the top four, you don't expect them to be in it at the end of it. And the team we can take out of there if we're going to get into that top four at the end of the season. Yeah. You know, and looking at the results lately, you know, they're not, you know, we should manage the month. There's still signs, I mean, they went out the FA Cup to Palace, you know. So I just think we've got to not be frightened. I mean, one thing Coomans actually said is that the Southampton is starting to scare the big teams. Well, you know, we've not got to be frightened by ourselves and, you know, it's certainly around the other way. How do you see us shaping up, do you see any changes or pretty much the same as? To me, I don't know. I mean, I think a lot of it depends on what happens on Thursday, doesn't it? Yeah. We just get the feeling Rogers will try and keep more or less with the same team as much as possible. Obviously, if available, they'll have a story to up front, they'll have the same back three. It'd be interesting to see, I mean, maybe Coutinho is going to get his rest on Thursday and he'll be back in. Yeah. But I just think it'll be here with the same kind of formation we've had all the recent games. But, you know, perhaps not starting with Balotelli and the story at the beginning. Well, that's another one that will be interesting to see at that goes because I do think, as was mentioned earlier, Balotelli does give storage more room because he does distract some of the central defenders a little bit and takes a bit of attention away. And I think the two of them together are actually going to be good for each other, whether we'll see or not. It's another matter. So what about the possibility of seeing them as a two and what about this stuff that Andy and Steve will touch on anyone but being over on the middle? For me, the key to this is how we control one yama. He's battered us most times, we've played him, you know what I mean? And if ever there was an argument for putting Chan into the centre of the park, he just doesn't get dominated. You know, it would be like two aircraft carriers going into a game of chicken as they head lifelong towards each other into the ball because seriously, they're just two monsters. I'd love to see the two of them go up against each other in midfield. I think one yama can dominate allen, and I think he can dominate Henderson as well. And that's not taken away from what Henderson does, I just think. I think he will dominate. Yeah, he's a phenomenal player. I don't think Snordlin is back for him now. If you had one yama in Snordlin and Davis, which tends to be their starting tree in midfield, you'd be nervous. But given he's not there, if we have Chan and Henderson in the middle of that and we could guess, I don't know. I would potentially look at a change in formation. I know people wouldn't be up for it, right? But I would love us to try that thing I was talking about last week where you start with Sacco and Skirtlin. Normally as right and left centre back and you have Chan sort of at the base of the diamond. But we can drop into a tree at the back system if needs be. But Chan has a license then to go into centre midfield and become a toward man in midfield. So we don't get dominated in midfield and so that we can go. You can pull Allen on to go and just beaver away at one yama. So he never gets comfortable on the ball and you've got Henderson as well there. And their full backs can still get on because they play quite narrow because they've got, you know, tree in midfield and the tree up top generally in terms of what's there. So I just think that we shouldn't look to lose our weight the way that we've been playing because I look to play down their sides. And they found his right and their left folds are out. Although they're all by Mark, which turned down the right hand side, you know, that's really where you want to test them out. Because the centre of the defence is good, you know, the man front who plays centre back for them is a very capable good strong centre centre. No, he's back now for them. I think he played the last game. And then Klein is an excellent rifle. The Klein Moreno battle is going to be fascinating down that side. So it's both of my floriers, both of them want to get on the top. He didn't want to fucking be in the position. Both of them come to the Mart 1 with the penalty spot. Having a chat together, I fucking hate being a fullback. Yeah, me too. I want to do dancing. So, you know, it's what we have to win. It's back to look the last game. It's a must win. Can't accept anything else. As Jim said, win. We go within a point. It's proper progress, if there's a slip up anywhere else, we will jump somebody. Right? And that's what we have to know. We have to get past teams. Every time we win, every time we think to yourself, yeah, you know, that's another step and we're in with a chance. We're still in the same position in the league. So now is a chance to really start making an account because we win this one. We go into the city game and, you know, the city game is a no win situation. You're going to take a point at the city game. You'd say, oh, fair enough. If you beat it, you feel like, fucking, yeah, come on. There's something here for us. But it's only that way if we go and beat Southampton. If we drag in Southampton and Spores and Arsenal win or, you know, win as well, then they feel like they're getting away from again. It's a bit heartbreaking looking at that happening. Spores are probably the only one, even though they're a home. They're a home to West Ham this weekend. I think Arsenal have had a... I think West Ham will blound it out. I think they're gone. So do I. But, you know what, they're still a team that on their day can just piss somebody off. Yeah. And dig in like they did down to 10 men. You know what I mean? Very true. I'm probably thinking slightly different. I think, I think Brandon, right or far wrong, will rotate against Bessictus. Because I don't think he has the Europa League on his priorities. I think he's focused on the FA Cup as opposed to the Europa League. I would personally be the all the way around. But anyway, that's me. I was listening to Phil Thompson, he said as well this morning that he thought that Europa was toward after the FA Cup. Yeah, and I think again, because it gets you into the champs. It's the whole thing gets you into the champs. Anyway, I'd like, if he's gone that way, he'll probably see it over on the tour. He'll come back into the back tree against Bessictus. You know, as the lad said, there's a bit of rehabilitation going on. So put him in. And if he does well, then maybe you're free and channeled to go into the centre midfield against Southampton. And that could be a positive that comes out of the game. You know what I mean? Well, sure, then it just frees us to give us that bit of physicality midfield. Or we do a slight adjustment on the shape and we see champs playing as a free start. And auxiliary midfield. The barrel, sweeper, front-time centre. Aircraft carrier. Aircraft carrier, yeah. Okay, look, let's tell you this up by getting some predictions. So we'll start with the European tie first. Jim, how do you see that one going? Oh, I'll be confident. I'll say three nails to Liverpool. Very nice. Andy, how do you see that one going? Yeah, just a kind of say, three nails. Three nails. Well, I think one of. One of you. Yeah, I think this guy, like Phil said, I think there's actually going to be a few changes. I don't think it's as high on Roger's priority list as I wish it was. Yeah. I think there'll be a few changes. And I think could be one of those ones where Bessictus come and do a Basel or, you know, whatever. And surprise people. Or even a deutergeretz. And surprise people as to how technically good they are. Yeah. We're looking, you can't ignore the fact that they are where they are in their league. Yeah. They're leading it. They demand respect. They demand respect. And if they put out a strong side, we could be. I think it'll be very tight as well. If we win, it'll be one nail. I'm gone for a film. Liverpool down to Ting simply, right? So we're going to concede in a way goal. We'll probably win two or three one. I think I was going to fucking light up the pitch. I'm towards. I think he's really gone out. I think he's a bit like a sterling explosion performance. I think oil is going to explode in this game. They won't have seen much of them, right? They might have seen types of them playing for Derby or something. But I think he is just going to relish being on the European stage and taking an opportunity to get himself onto that team sheet for the Southampton game. You think we can see, but we win. I think we can see what we win. Okay. Just to make sure that the toy isn't dead or buried going to it. It's great for someone like I, though, isn't it? Like two months ago, he's driving down to a championship level ground, and he's there wondering has he got a future at Liverpool? I think he knew he had a future at Liverpool. I know, but you know what I mean with that? Anything can happen. You know, he could have a terrible loan spell and shit just goes wrong from. And now he's heading, you know, to a match on Thursday night. Probably expecting to start. He is, yeah. Disappointed if he's not getting to start on Thursday, which is great. It's great. Right. Second game, then, as a Southampton match, Jim Batty, you again. How do you see that one going? I think that's going to be a bit tight. I'm going to go two-one to Liverpool. I think we can win it. But I don't think we'll have a clean sheet. I think it would be two-one. Two-one, okay. Jim, stop robbing me, scars on me. (LAUGHTER) Same rationale as Jim's just said. Two-one, I'm absolutely certain that actually. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, excellent. He's just laid 500 quid in the car. (LAUGHTER) But Liverpool 3-1 win for me. 3-1 win. Yeah, yeah. I just feel this... It's just me being a romantic. But this is the game, not even the sport as much. This is the game whereby we actually put a marker down for the fact that fuck everyone around us. We're coming for our top fours, but we're taking it back. Class, well, your 3-1 last year is my 2-1. This year, so I'm sticking with that. Okay. Phil? I'm there for you, Sarah. I think it's a one-out draw. Oh, one-out draw. Yeah, I just think it's a one-out draw. I think they're strong at home, strong defensively, and even with storage. I think the stats show how the teams struggle to win games after the Europa League game. And I think we might struggle. No, no, that all makes perfect sense. I'm just being romantic. (LAUGHTER) Go on, yeah, yours is steeped in logic. (LAUGHTER) This is just so wrong. Right, that's it. Thanks very much, Jim. Appreciate it. I am Lujware. You are listening to "Trippen's Chat." (LAUGHTER) With Trevor. (LAUGHTER) Right, first one's from Paul Murray. Paul is wondering if it had to be one of winter, autumn, spring or summer, for the rest of time. Which would you choose? Now, is there no environmental impact? You're not going to just turn into a massive desert if you have a fucking summer out of time. No, I think you can live in the splendor summer. I don't think it would ever turn into a desert in Ireland if we had our summers out of the time anyway. (LAUGHTER) You're just saying a little bit of sunshine and mostly rain, didn't you? (LAUGHTER) If you're in Ireland, they're all the same. It just means longer days. (LAUGHTER) What is longer days? I want a short day. (LAUGHTER) Is it a long winter or is it a short winter? (LAUGHTER) Is it a rainy bit now or is it a rainy bit? For me, summer. I really like winter. The two of me, three of me. (LAUGHTER) I feel like winter, like getting the fire on and fucking being in the gaff and looking out at Christmas. The only thing about winter is Christmas. I love Christmas as well. Yeah, yeah. But you still get Christmas, it was summer out of the time. (LAUGHTER) You do? (LAUGHTER) You get winter. (LAUGHTER) (LAUGHTER) (LAUGHTER) (LAUGHTER) (LAUGHTER) (LAUGHTER) (LAUGHTER) (LAUGHTER) It's good for you to explain that. It's just going to be the same. I think it's the same. You can just make up a different thing instead of Christmas, the festival of the goose or something like that, and you get presents and it's the same. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Summer. You go with summer? Is that a clean sweep for summer? Absolutely. How would you want to be called? (LAUGHTER) I don't like it. I'm wet and horrible. Yeah. There's no nice thing coming home, are you? There's cold beers in the fridge. Yeah. Just stick the barbecue on. Chill out the back in the sunshine. Yeah, but again, what summer are you talking about? Yeah. That's not like coming home in the summer, you know. (LAUGHTER) Stick on your barbecue, get your umbrella. (LAUGHTER) (LAUGHTER) It's not like coming home in the country. It's pretty dark, isn't it? It's been cold for the evening. (LAUGHTER) It's August. Next one is from Chris. Chris is one of what is your favourite non-sport leisure activity? I think he said not wanking as well. (LAUGHTER) No, no, he said not sitting around fucking off. I don't know what that means, but a restaurant. Non-sport leisure activity. So what do you do to... I think cooking. Really? Yeah, you enjoy that. I genuinely enjoy cooking. Yeah. And then there's a bit of end product that you can change. Yeah, so it's quality. Cooking for you. Actually, eating. (LAUGHTER) It is competitive. It is competitive eating. It is competitive eating. It is competitive eating. Yeah, there is competitive eating, so that could be classed as a sport. I'd never tried that. That's just disgusting stuff, isn't it? Oh, yeah, watch some programs on it. Do you see these little skinny bitches and all of them? No, I love my grub. So I'm thinking, how did she manage to fucking eat 15 burgers there? You know? But it's actually what they do is they chug like massive quantities, like two and three litres of water. They force it into themselves. I really like what you do to make fucking foie gras for a goose. You're pushing into the bottle to show the water down against your system. And it actually helps to expand your stomach. Yeah, it's horrendous. Like what they actually do to make themselves capable of doing the competitive eating is fucking horrible. So not competitive eating for you? No. Only any suggestions for you? Non-sport leather activity. Well, you're not going to eat a pea blag or whatever with a golf as a sport. Because it's, you know, it's kind of like a hobby. It's a game. Yeah. Well, I consider it a sport. For all the people who don't consider it a sport. And it's an easy one. You know, head out there, into the full, onto the cars. Yeah. Could be anywhere in the world. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's just, that's where we are. It's not, it's not reading the book in a pub. Do you not like that? Why? I'm tragic. Loser! That's just... Pork wine, guys. That's a big tree. I'll probably do Guinness. Yeah. The sipping bag in is here, look. [LAUGHTER] Pork wine. Pork wine. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, reading. [LAUGHTER] Reading hikers. [LAUGHTER] Okay. Get that behind closed ours. Drive in. Because I know changing gears. Driving gears. Yeah. Driving in the sport. No, I don't even, if you, if you're the un-rallion. Look, if you're just driving around. You're just like driving around. I'm not driving around. Well, then I changed. I'm trying to drive in. Yeah, I was trying to be. Yeah. But if you drive competitively, you drive like a schooler. Yeah, but if you want to drive, I just don't know that. [LAUGHTER] That's how he wins all the time. [LAUGHTER] Getting off the lights ahead of the granny beside me. Oh, fuck you. You're the best out there if I was for driving the insurance. No one answers. Yeah. Yeah, big hand. [LAUGHTER] Only 21. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, big move. [LAUGHTER] Yeah. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, laugh at the coach, you say. [LAUGHTER] Very easy. [LAUGHTER] Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's your favorite thing. My favorite thing to do. That's not the sport. Reading. Reading? Yeah. In a pub? [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] The look of "Concination" from Andy. [LAUGHTER] It's not in a pub. It's not in a pub. Is it not? Right? No. It's not in a pub. [LAUGHTER] What about hosting podcasts? No, I fucking hate that show. [LAUGHTER] Right, Daniel Purson's wondering which four members of the current Liverpool squad will make the best Bob's late team. Now, I don't know what makes a good Bob's late team. No, I meant to actually check today what the parameters of a good Bob's late team was. You probably need good gluteal muscles, I'd imagine, so you can push up. Well, look, go with the skin on the nuggets. Well, then Raheen's starting is going to be honest. Well, he's got some hole on him. [LAUGHTER] The Germans are making as well. Yeah? No, the Germans are going to Bob's late, so. Hey, Jamaica. So, Emre. Emre. Emre's in there. So, Emre and Raheen. And generally, they're big lads because, you know, everyone Bob's late team have the lads. Colo, because I'd love to see him come around that bend with that big smile. [LAUGHTER] Colo says, "Relax." [LAUGHTER] And he has got a tremendous, he's got a tremendous hoop on him. So, Colo. So, Emre, I could pop slides. Is that a stare? Look, he's staring from him. Yeah, he's staring from him. There's two strings. How about the new stairs? The foot at the front. He's staring from the strings. Oh, yeah. Very good. Oh, that's nice. And then you know the way it was worn. They're all worn together at the start of this wall wank. I mean, you lie. [LAUGHTER] They all run. They all run. They all run one by one. They jump in. So, the felling who's last to get in, given the final push. The final push. And the end of the game. Yeah, who's that? It has to be Chad. The next one is Nick Wall and Nick's wandering. If you could be any human from any point in time for one day, what would be the first thing you'd do? He says, "As Emre, Chad," because he's making the assumption. That's the joke, Trev. You're in that arc, Colo. No, no, no. I didn't. I didn't read it, right? No. I read it the way I want the fucking reading. Because I read books. It's really cool. What would you do as Emre, Chad? Yeah, I know. You wanted to make a jokey. Yeah, I know. I know. But I want to ask you a question. I know what you would do. You could be. Come on. That literally has to be bad. I read books. I have to make a jokey. A lack of sense of humor. So, I am going to be. I read my book. Like this. As I was eager. The most funny is the book sounds shit. [LAUGHTER] It's a funny book. Insert after here. It's a good impression by both of you. I'm trying to stand up. [LAUGHTER] Oh, no. Why challenge this joke that I want to tell you? [LAUGHTER] If you don't take it funny, fuck you. Yeah. Yeah, actually fuck you. Yeah, yeah. We're finished with our weekly shout-out for Astro Park. But book your pitch time here at Astro Park, LIE. And we want to mention we are Liverpool. Really excellent fans in. You can still buy copies of the last edition at www.wearel and the young Phil Casey and myself, Trev Denny. All right. So, I'm playing them in the outdoor? Apparently. Apparently. That's what you're saying. Isn't that lovely? That is nice. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] I have the number when I ring them. What do you do? I ring them. [LAUGHTER] This is a brilliant moment. We're just ring them. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] Yeah. 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So with a comprehensive win over Palace in the FA Cup we look back at the good and the bad and the dancing. We are joined by Jim Boardman to review and preview upcoming games v Besiktas & Southampton before going off on one and even prank calling an inanimate object. All in all an average day in trippers bunker. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices