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It would have been oh so different had we recorded this post Everton, but we didnt. Lots of positives and negatives like Michael Drowen and Robbie Savage. Also we reveal who we want as LFC assistant manager.g Get on it  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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It would have been oh so different had we recorded this post Everton, but we didnt. Lots of positives and negatives like Michael Drowen and Robbie Savage. Also we reveal who we want as LFC assistant manager.g Get on it 

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Joining me in the bunker tonight to add some insight to my pure eye lowbrow sex jokes are Sacco, Conquibine, Paul Brennan, Dave Diggler, Thomas, and Conning was to fill Casey on the line, there's a return from Molly. Right, we'll start our review of the recent games by looking at probably our most effective player of those two, Mattus, Jordan Eybe, a bit of a ball from Blue, nobody really saw that coming. We're expecting something from him, but not really quite what we got. Could it be argued, Molly, do you think that over the course of those two games, he was at least one of our most effective players? He's probably been our best player of the last couple of games travelling. I've been so impressed by him, he's come back there for me, he's low on spell, Stairie, and he actually looks like a player who takes himself to that. I should be in this team, and I deserve to be in this team, which is fantastic. And if you look at it, we didn't absolutely no business at all in January back, bringing back Leib, but if Leib was never up there, he was tearing up championship with Derby, just like he was while he was on loan, and if we went after him, he probably cost us maybe $10 million to get from Derby. So for me, it's like getting a 10 million home player in January, you know? And we always talk about how good Stairie is. I talked about that, that he is, I teach him how fast Stairie is. But he's exactly one of your younger Stairie, which I don't know, does he? Probably not, as good as Stairie in his form. And he's born, he's lucky for me, you know? He'll take on players, just like Stairie in those, he's a totally torn up player. He's already there, he's also got the power to shoot. Stairie in doesn't seem to have, he's one of these guys, he's 25 yards out. He'll take a path and he's a good chance to score. I thought Stairie has that in his last place. Yeah, yeah. He's huge impressed with Eib. Paul, Mollies after flagging a few aspects of Eib's game and some of the qualities he has as a footballer. What stands out for you when you're watching this kid? Yeah, obviously his speed and he seems to have a rocket over shot. But just the fact that he just does what he did, basically, in the U teams, he just gets a ball and runs the people. Like, he looks like he's playing down the pack with his mates. Like, there's nothing as fair as them at all. Like, he's looked like one of our senior players, really. And he's really, like, he's given us a lot of twists in the past couple of games. Like, especially against Evan, he was basically one of the only good things about the game was watching him bumping on and, like, really, really, kind of rising to the occasion. So that's the kind of standout thing for me. The fact that he, like, if you saw him, you'd think he was playing there for a year, two years, just, and that's, like, a kind of foreign position to him. He's just slotted in so easily and he just, he looks like, already one of our biggest threats. He's absurdly confident, isn't he, on the ball? Yeah, it's like, he's arrogant without being arrogant. Like, the kind of, the good kind of arrogance, right? Like, he does, there's no kind of, oh, shit, I'm against Evan. I better kind of take it easy here, this is a big game. He just, he just looks like he doesn't care, like, what the occasion is. He's just there to play football and to run at people and call it, like, to kind of wreak havoc. Yeah. But that's the one that stands out for me, just the fact that he looks like he's been there for years. Yeah, Dave, this wingback position seems to be where we blow new players. And it's certainly been very effective in the case of Markovich as well. Long-term, and, you know, we've had this debate with Emery Chan recently, is that what you see him as a very, very much a white player? Or with the pitch in front of him, or can you see him moving more central? Or how do you see that kind of outcome? I mean, before he came back from Lorne, I probably would have had him pegged pretty exclusively as a white player. I mean, I hadn't seen enough of it to suggest that he had, you know, enough about his game either in strength or guile or in some of that friend to come inside. But what I thought was interesting, last night in the Tottenham game was, you know, he was really smart on when he went inside and when he went outside, you know, depending on where Markovich made the run or where the fallback was. And it was really confident coming into the middle of the park, going across the, going across the picture, across the 18 yard box, laying it on, making smart runs. I mean, he had, you know, what I really liked about him last night, which I think suggests that he could play in a number of different positions, is that he wasn't timid in what he did. Everything he did, he was pretty confident in doing it. He was aggressive in doing it, you know, he was comfortable pushing the play forward. And actually, I think, you know, in a direct comparison to some of my frustrations with Markovich at times is that Markovich can still look a little timid, take the easier pass or the less risky pass then. Whereas I thought I was all about the risk and all about going for high rewards. And I think it paid off for him last night. So I liked the wingback position for him. I'd be a little nervous about him if he, if he went up against, you know, a real top class attacking player, because I don't think he, I mean, I think first off against Tottenham, to be fair, he looked at it lost and against what evident from a defensive perspective. I don't think that's his, that's his game, but going forward, he was exceptional. And like the vast majority of our squad who are under 25, he can play into a three positions, which is what the real excited thing about him is. Yeah, Phil, a couple of lads there at this stage of flank is attitude and our flag is attitude. I saw him exchanging, you know, kind of glances with Danny Sturge, where Danny looked a bit pissed off of him and it didn't, he didn't wilt at all. He just went and did exactly what he wanted to do the next time. It's a tremendous attitude to have at that age. And the experience really seems to have stood him a good step. Yeah, he has that arrogance of youth, which is what you like to see in young players, that they aren't faced by the occasion, they aren't faced by the opposition, or they're bigger sort of superstar players that are around them. And it feeds true and that you can see how confident the more senior players are, because they're not afraid to give them the ball. There isn't a hesitation about letting the ball or using them. Like the amount of headers he won from Minule's goal kicks, and he has to because Minule is only hitting 45 yards or so with the actual goal kicks. But he's winning them, and he's winning them consistently. And you know, they're all really strong positives. To play the system that we're playing at the moment, the concern, when we talked about gone and traded the back was that if you played with two fullbacks or, you know, two non-real attacking backs, that it suddenly becomes a five at the back, as opposed to a tree, and you get yourself pegged back in your own half. His natural persuasion is to bum on and get forward. And there's no second heartless head, but he isn't going to push on and get forward. And that may work so well. It's why Markovich is trying to play in that role as well, because his natural instinct is to bum forward. And, you know, even the, I thought, personally, I thought he had a slightly better game than he did in the actual Tottenham game, because it was his first game in and everything like that. And looking at it, I thought, personally, agreeing with what Dave said, I thought defensively, he was probably a bit of a sixes and sevens last night in the actual game. It was a couple of times that Tottenham got down that side and exploited because of probably just his lack of playing in that position on a consistent basis. But given putting all that aside, you know, it was just a wonderful performance by such a young player. And let's not forget it. A bit like Oxlade Chamberlain, because he's so well developed physically, he looks a lot older than he actually is. And when Molly's talking about, you know, maybe he looks a bit better than Sterling or whatever, half that comes from the fact that he already looks physically developed. He isn't being easily brushed off the ball. You know, when he's able to ride a tackle physically as opposed to being knocked around, and it's something Sterling's had to develop where he has it naturally. I'd still lean more to decide that Sterling is the better player at this moment, and I'm purely because he's more developed and more rounded. And, you know, we might say, you know, I'd pass a great shot, but Sterling is starting to develop consistency in terms of finishing and being ruthless and in front of the actual goal when he's getting chances. That's where he has the slight edge, but it's a great role model for Oib to have looking at Sterling in the club. There's no better path for him to follow than the one that Sterling has, and he has it in front of him. And it says so much for the player that we did bring him back off long early, because his performance had been so good at Derby and so consistent that it was felt that he was going to add something to the force team, which he is. He looks a force team. I also think on Sterling, you know, one thing that I think has taken a slight shine and it's unfair on him is that we haven't played him in his best position for three months. You know, Sterling's not a striker, but that's pretty much where we've exclusively played him, well, certainly since Christmas. And, you know, even before that, he was playing as part of a 4-2-3-1. You know, Sterling is better playing as one of two attacking midfield players, where he has licensed a role, and with Sterling coming back now, I mean, I think it's really exciting to see what Sterling can do dropping back a little bit into the position where he was so good last season, you know, behind Suarez and Sturridge. Well, we'll have a look at the attacking potential for him to return to that in a while, and also maybe look at the guy who was I suppose, unfortunately, shunted out of the team, and Lazar Margovich so that so I could get his game. I'd like to go to the far side of the defensive we could. Molly, maybe you might talk to me a little bit about the contribution of our left wing back. Sorry, there's some desire now. What did you think of Alberto Moreno on the night? Very conflicting reports. People seem to be very much at odds about his effect. Yeah, well, I thought Moreno was probably his best game last night since he's probably last. I think he's done one of late. He's probably been a little bit of an unsung hero in many ways. You know, you have to remember that left wing back position, you see, it is kind of new to this guy as well. Not only is he a new club, he's a new country, he's a new position as well. So overall, I think he's done very well in that position. I started from him over, someone like Enrique or Johnson. So, you know, I can't very confident about him. What do you think when he's, so it's a few times I was looking up and I was waiting for someone to come bombing up the left flank for an outball and then you realize, oh, well, that's not going to happen because Moreno's already, you know, five foot inside in the opposition parody box. So the outball is not going to happen. He's fucking mental, isn't he? Where his forward runs? He's such a great tournament. Just what? I didn't realize that Moreno had that in his lap or before he joined us. So when he actually runs, I've had the opposition bringer or defender. Yes, it's fantastic. But he unfortunately, he couldn't use it too much. He's kind of, well, I hate it as you were saying. He's had fun. He's in the box, but he's kind of looking for that outball. Yeah, yeah, very good. Paul, take that on for me to talk to me about Moreno. Like, one of the criticisms I've heard about him is what we were kind of talking about there without you, boost that, you know, he is a defender and he's nominally defender. But sometimes people have criticized that aspect of his game as seems to be a recurring team for a Liverpool fallbacks. How do you feel he is in terms of defense exclusively for a moment? I think he's fairly OK. Obviously, someone like him is going to get caught up for sometimes, but I think he has great recovery pace. I think he did like it. I love his attitude and his battling like and that there was a few examples of that where he kind of tore back to, you know, after Spurs players who, you know, say Sacco held somebody up and like, yes, you're thinking, is Sacco a bit isolated here? And Moreno just comes tearing back out of nowhere and takes the ball. Yeah. So, like, I like that aspect of his game. I taught against, I taught against Spurs, he was good outlet because we had no handle on the game, really. We weren't in control in the game. Yeah, we were looking for kind of outlets. And I think he provided that. And I think there was more, there was more kind of sign of him, you know, trying to engage the other defense properly, because I think the only one of my big criticisms of him would be that he's kind of prone to just tossing the ball in once he gets near the opposition box. I think he kind of, I think he held back on that. He was looking for low balls across. He was, you know, looking to room past people. I thought it was a bit more kind of polished in attack he was. Yeah. And he's shown up for the long diagonal ball for Emory Chan that we all want to see as well. Yeah, exactly. And he was in and got, like, like Emory said, he was in, he had another, you nearly scored again, against Spurs. Like he's just, it's just mental the way he's just, he's just suddenly there. He's tearing up like a road runner, just like flying off the left, because he's done a little conveyor belt, like he's just going up and back. Dave, I don't know if you want to continue chatting about that man for a second, but I wanted to start, start moving it into the middle and the area in between those two guys, which is going to bring us back to the fence as well, because the midfield last night, you know, it struggled and it was by far our weakest area. It wasn't that. Yes, it was. I mean, I think that, I won't talk about Moreno. I think the lads have covered that. I think the exciting thing about Moreno is how much better he could be, rather than anything else. Yeah. I mean, I think that, like Enrique. Well, I think that Moreno, the worst part of Moreno is the best bit of Enrique. I mean, that's the reality of it. So I mean, you know, it's exciting to think about what he could do, but I mean, I was, you know, after the Bolton game, I was really critical of Jared. I thought Jared had a terrible game against Bolton. I thought he was poor against Everton. I thought the game completely passed him by. And I thought that the non, the initial start in of Jared and then the non change of Jared, for me, was probably the largest contributor factor to not winning the game against Everton, which was a game we needed to win. And then watching the game last night, again, it's hard to talk about Jared and separate him from, you know, this player we watched for so long versus what we're actually watching on the field. But the reality is, again, last night, he was just at a different pace to the rest of the team. And he's, first of all, when doing it, Rodgers does him no favors by paying him, playing in sentiment field. You know, I mean, it just, I, that's almost like compounding any challenges Jared already has. But to play him in sentiment field last night, particularly against the Tottenham team, where they play very centrally, you know, with Ericsson coming in, LaMella coming in, and the two midfielders that they already had there, I thought he really struggled. I thought he was, you know, critically at fault for the first goal, along with Sako, but I thought, I thought Jared not tracking the runner of LaMella. But that's classic Jared. I mean, watch any goal we've conceded with him in the center in midfield. And that's what he does. He doesn't track the run, right? Because he either he doesn't physically, he's not physically able to recover, or he, or he doesn't see it. And the knock on impact is that it, it drags Henderson's game down. I mean, if you watch Henderson's performance from the minute Emre Jean steps into midfield and compare it to the rest of the game, it is like two different players. Yeah, this is what I want to talk you about. It's a little bit easy for us to say. And like, you know, we've done this topic to death and we're in danger of possibly boring people told about Jared, and we don't want to do that. But it's not just as simple as Henderson has to do all Jared's work. Henderson is considerably poorer in that first half. And it's not just that stuff. It is totally poorer. It's passing it forward. What's happened is we've started talking about Jared about, and the conversation is about how little negative impact he has on the team, rather than the positive things that he does within the team. And I think, or still could do in using the right way. If you're talking, for me, if you're talking about, whenever I talk about Jared, you know, and I'm talking about some of you guys about the game last night, you know, we're going, oh, yeah, but he wasn't that bad at this. And he didn't do that too bad. And he had a little bit of this. And you know, rather than he did this and he allowed us to do that, you know, that's when I think that the game is just passing him by. And I think, you know, Rogers has to take some blame for that, because Jared can't play three games in a week. So what will we expect then last night? We were, you know, he was never going to have a great game. That's what happened. It's too much of an ask, isn't it, Phil? Yeah, look, you know, everyone recognizes that with the exception of Rogers, it seems, on that topic. The Henderson-Jerrard midfield is always interested me because it reminds me so much of the Lampard-Jerrard equation. It doesn't work. You know, England tried it in the World Cup and fell miserably when it's being paired together this year for Liverpool and whatever guys it's been, doesn't work. So stop down teams that doesn't work. It's not this. You know what I mean? Just stop the owner. Well, Lucas Jared doesn't work further. In fact, Jared and the two doesn't work in there. But yeah, yeah. Stop the owner. Stop the owner. Stop the owner. The thing that frustrates me is, and I see Alan gets pelters, right? I would have much preferred to see Joe Allen and Henderson in the midfield last night. I know we want to know, but I think he offers, I think he'd offer more because he can get around the pitch and he, you know, he, he run all day. And the one thing about Allen is, and we forget this so much, Allen's biggest problem is, is, is the amount of injuries he sustained in his Liverpool career. When he's got a run, when generally when he's got a run of games, he's looked an excellent player for us and then he gets injured and then it takes some three or four games to get back up to speed. And I wouldn't, I, I, I said it yesterday. I, I didn't have, I had absolutely no issue and I would have welcomed seeing him in the sentiment. Yeah. Because I felt that if we had plenty of legs in there, you know, get up and down given the fact that we weren't, we weren't likely to see Chan move into the sentiment field from the start. And that at least then you're going to match them for in terms of pace in the sentiment period. And I thought it was, I thought it was very evident until Chan steps into that center of the park, our whole game was played down the flanks. We avoided going through the middle of the park and one, and they, because they just ran through us, they get down the ball and just ran through our midfield like it wasn't there. And that's not just Jared's fault. Henderson needs to fucking step up here. That's my point. You really need, like this fella is what people are talking about being the next captain, right? That he has to start to impose himself on games, regardless of who's around him in the, in the actual midfield. We're going to praise Emory Chan from a hoist for his ability, but the one thing he always does, and whatever position he's been in since he saw influences, he's imposed himself in that position. Henderson goes missing too often in stuff like this. I think Henderson is a bit like, I think Henderson is an excellent player to have in your team once he's alongside somebody who's dominant in there. And we can even say about Lucas, the one thing Lucas does, and he gets hurt this as well, and we've given him plenty of hurt this, but he does put a stamp on the game. You know, when until his legs go, he does get around, and you can see Lucas around the pitch, and he's prepared, he's vocal, and he's moving things around in the whole lot. We talk about Henderson stepping up and talking and everything like this, but he doesn't just, now, the flip side is that he's still a young player, and he can develop that part of the game. It's not saying that this is a terminal thing, and he'll never be able to develop it. He can develop it, right? But we need to start seeing it. We need to see it more. If he has, if he has a view of being the next captain, that's what you need from the captain, outside of heroics and everything like that, you need him to pose himself on the game as his team's fulcrum, in terms of, especially in that sense of the park. Now, it's an increasingly large ask, isn't it, to be fair on him, because the Jared we saw last season is not the Jared we've been seeing this season, you know? But the Jared we saw last season that was the Jared we've seen this season. But Henderson was crap last season with him in the two. And Jared's the issue, I think. No, but what I'm saying to you is it's not, look, I agree that. I agree with you, right? Jared and the tale doesn't walk, right? But there's also a part that says Henderson for, as much as he's, he's girlfriend for Jared in that system, he has to do a bit more, you know what I mean? Like it can't just, it can't just keep saying, oh, you know, it's because Jared is there that he's been playing so poorly. There comes a point where he has to be able to perform, even if he has a poorer player alongside him, regardless of who, who the name is, right? He has to be able to undrag that player up to his level instead of being dragged down to their level. Yeah, Paul, you know, compounds it slightly further is that the other person is normally floating around that midfield area last night, who's been our player this season for me, Phil Coutinho, he struggled with that side of the game. Whatever you might say about his attacking contribution, he did struggle with the defensive side and being strong on the ball and, you know, shown and, you know, it really impacted. He was less effective than usual. Yeah, he's like, he's been our goal to go for a good one now with this formation. I think he's basically been the key to like how fluid it is. Yeah. And like, he was kind of all at sea yesterday. I think, obviously, it doesn't help that like the midfield, too, were practically non-existent. But like he, like you said, he did. He didn't really drop in and kind of make up the numbers much. And when he did get the ball, he basically lost it until again, until Chan came on. Yeah. And then Coutinho had a few kind of forays forward then. It's amazing. He obviously needed more mobile hours. Yeah, but like, but nearly every time he got the ball in the first half, like, it just came back at us. Yeah. And like, obviously, I don't want to be too harsh on him because he's been brilliant recently. But he does need to kind of get back up to the level that he was at because it really hurt us yesterday. Yeah, the mixture did not work for whatever reason. But I think on Coutinho, I think I read today that Coutinho started 16 games in a row. Like, he started the last 16 games for us. And he's just not a player who's ever been able to put that type of runs together with any level of consistency. And he needs a break, because I think that two things have happened. One, I think he is looking a little jaded. So he should get 12 games, 12 days off now. If he doesn't play against Palace, which I don't think he should, you'll get 12 days off. But also, I think that what happened in particularly against Tottenham was bent and I've tracked him more on the pitch. Like, Puccetino's a smart manager. He knows that we play through Coutinho. So he marked him very, very tightly. And actually, Everton tried to kick the shit out of him and Spurs didn't have to resort to that. They just pressed him really, really well. And I think then he gets frustrated. You know, who else knows we play through Coutinho is Brett and Rogers. And he elected to finish the game against Everton, in particular, without him and Sterling on the pitch, which was controversial. Well, you know, my thought, I mean, down on stuff. I mean, that's down on stuff that was. Well, if we talk about the Everton game, specifically around the substitutions, I'm praying, we're not praying. There had to have been an injury to make that to take Coutinho off and leave Jared on. I mean, because that is a bananas decision. There were a few rumours that both Sterling and Coutinho came off because of Indians. Well, Cauli was also there were both Croc and Ferris. Cauli was supposed to be a small question mark of Coutinho before the sports game. So hopefully it was because I like you. I was looking at that going, "Is Jared finishing this game?" And I'm like, "Really?" Yeah. I mean, you know, parked the Lambert decision for a minute because that's a whole other thing. But the Coutinho sub, when he didn't take Jared off, I mean, all right, maybe there was an injury, but when he didn't take Jared off and he took Coutinho off, I was like, "Oh my God." And for me, the reason we didn't beat Everton is because of the substitutions. And the reason we beat Tottenham is because of the substitution. So to be fair, he even did out. But I mean, the Everton substitutions are- Oh, the course of a season. No. But the Everton substitutions, I mean, he's forced into the early one, which is fair enough, Ray Lucas goes off after 16 minutes. He's only got two left. But when he's sitting on a bench and you think, "The fucking Ricky Lambert's going to win the derby for a year." It's like, "Oh my God." I mean, how much of it doesn't get on a bit of peer? I just- Crazy decision. Yeah, Molly, we've been looking at the midfield there. And the comparative lack of effectiveness of it, what it did was it left our defence more exposed than it's been of late. And it looked, I suppose, a little bit more flappy than it has of late, in particular. In particular, it was marked to watch it on Twitter as I was doing what I was watching the game as well. And to hear all the people coming out of the woodwork on it, I was like, "Oh, shit, look at him. Look at him." And it was only a matter of time, and they got their chance. Even people having to go at Emory Chan. Gobshites. Talk to me about how you felt. 6-0-10, which- The Mirror had them a 5-0-10. 6-0-10, that's what it's- They gave- And they gave Jared 8-0-10. Yeah. I actually changed my name. Stevie Warner is right in the fucking National Park, it's in the fucking mirror. Yeah. They definitely- They threw Jared's out of war. Wait, we're actually called that. Molly, talk to me about it. It's a bot. But it's a bot. It's like Jared scores, he gets an eight. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter there was a penalty. Jared scores, get an eight. Yeah. So anyway, Molly, the effectiveness of that defensive, what would you say about them as a whole? We got a cycle, Trevor. As you probably know, I've never really been on that Benway, you know? I do know that. I do know that. I've always said he's a touch. The quarter tour is about him. He really does. Like, he strains, probably they're for your way as weaknesses. Like, number one, he's not the Asian level. So, you know, that that's a massive strength to have. So passing ability, fantastic passing, but he's a strong guy. He can defend a bit. But it's just when he gets on that ball, honestly, he's like he's great. That is after drinking 12 points of Guinness and he's trying to walk home. He's all over the place. It would not be fair to say, Molly, though, that nobody's going to argue with you on the basis of last night. Some of the incidents, if you put together as a low-light package, he would look like a complete ham. But that is not the point. In general, is that not a little bit exaggerated? You know, I think that that emphasis up. But if you were to watch back, a lot of the highlights through the past few games, and the sack was fair. As I said, he is a strong guy and he gets in good head and passing his work. But watch him on the bar. I know he's predominantly left footed outside. But he actually looks like he watches two left face. Definitely, he doesn't know how to put one in front of the other. And he worries me greatly. Every time he gets on the bar, I'm extremely nervous when the sack goes there. Right, right. And what does that call your overall feeling about the defense then? But no, not really because, luckily enough on the other side, on the right-hand side, we've changed who I think has been absolutely majestic since he gone into this defense. Okay, he gives the penalty away against Chelsea, but you know, the institutions have been brothering that. He's been absolutely fantastic here. I know you're speaking about the field area run. And we're running about Gerard again, and the course has gone from the of what's Gerard starting for. Oh my God, Gerard is leaving efforts to be open, part result. And now we're back to the Gerard starting again. So what I'm trying to say there is what really alternatives do we have? Do we take Chen out of that defense? Put him in the field with Henderson? We don't do it before to take an order to that defense. That was Scutman's cycle in there. But we did have Chen in that defense. Luke is out injured on your alternative, Joellen. I've got to figure it out all right, and I think there will be two into that effort. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I particularly ask the effectiveness of Mr. Sacco. What did you think of the defense as a whole? How did you feel? Was it as simple as I was making the team area run that there were a little bit more exposed as a unit? Yeah, I think so. I think apart from, apart from Sacco's slip, which was slapstick, absolutely ridiculous stuff, I thought they, I thought they did really well. Which you were deemed was lovely little, you know, snidey either tap after another mistake. No, but then I thought they did really well with how exposed they were because like there was, you know, we kind of, people kind of think, oh, it's a back tree. So the centre backs don't have as much to do, but they were moved around an awful lot. And like Sacco and Chen, they do a lot of work out at the touchlines. It's not as if they're sitting there, you know, on Skirtle's lip on the edge of the box. Yeah. So there would be like, there was a lot of moving around that they had to do. And I thought that, I thought that especially Chen and Sacco stepped out of the fence and snuffed a, like a lot of stuff out. And, and I thought Skirtle was brilliant at covering. But it, like, like we said, like there was just nothing in front of them in midfield. Like it was just kind of, it was wave after wave. And it really felt sorry for the guys because like, you know, it was a, it was a clear pass away through at them. Yeah, it reminded me kind of kind of earlier in the season. I remember when even the defence was playing poorly. Yeah. And you were kind of saying what, but there's nothing in front of them as well. And it just kind of felt like everything they did was a life or death kind of decision where if they got it wrong, spores were just in on goal. Yeah. And I think, I think they, I thought they limit its spurs really well. Yeah. Yeah. Dave, we might as well, I suppose, Sago, into the conversation that's going to happen inevitably. If you want to, can I, can I just say about Sago? Yeah. So do I actually? My thing about it, I thought Sago was great against everything at the weekend. I think, look, it's, it's like a couple of things. Players are going to have poor games, we're talking about the continual base, right? You're going to have really high parity of form, and it's going to drop off a parrot. And that's natural. That's just natural peaks and shrubs in terms of things. I thought last night, yeah, he didn't have his best game for us. Tardy made a lot, but he did make a lot of mistakes. There was a lot of way where passes, which, which I normally in this game, that fell, I've no issue with the fell. I would take that fell. If you slip, right, and you put, you do a roby tackle on the fella and on the halfway line, you're not getting, you're not getting sent off and nothing's happened. Your man was true on goal. So we're talking about last ditch, take him down, take the yellow and get on and get home with the points, do you know what I mean? But I just think he's done, he's done so much since he's come in that I think criticized them over one relatively poor game, which he was last. You know, it would be overly harsh in terms of what it is. Yeah, I think you've got to put the game into context as well. You know, Spurs and Everton targeted him, right? And when we play with the three of the boys, what they did is they pressed both Jean and Saka and they figured Saka was probably more likely to give the ball away. So I just think, so I just think LaMella pressed better than Erickson did, but Erickson did try to press Jean as well and Kane tended to drift towards Saka as well to double team him. What you'll notice now is I think this is direction from the manager. He doesn't want the ball going back to Skirtle or to Minile with teams to the presses, because Minile kicks, and fucking hell will come on to that, but he wants the ball to go forward. So what Saka ends up doing is playing a higher risk pass, and that ends up, we end up giving the ball away more as a result of it. But I think if you were to ask Rogers, would you rather lose the ball on the halfway line through a misplaced pass the Saka was given, or get pressed on the 18 yard box with the ball of Martin Skirtle's feet, then they kicked the ball out of touch. I think he'd prefer Saka to try the pass. The other thing I'd say on Saka is probably the Tottenham game aside, because he did make a few mistakes. It's probably the best center back in the league since Christmas. We've been the best team in the league since Christmas. We've conceded the least goals in the league since Christmas, and we're the only undefeated side this year. And that has all coincided with Saka coming to Italy. It's not a massively controversial thing to say, Dave, that he's been our best defender since Christmas. No, but I mean, you know, I would say Emory Chad has been our best defender since Christmas, so stick that in your pipe and round it up your arse, huh? I would say that Dave. The reason that I didn't say Emory Chad is I think he's been the best player in the league since Christmas because he played the main pipe. So on Saka, I think that, you know, I understand I wasn't a fan either to Modi's point, not that I wasn't a fan. I didn't think he'd done anything until this run to justify the hype that people had about him, but there is no than I and then in the last eight to 10 games, he's been exceptional. All right, come back to the question. I asked you initially, which is talking about Emory Chad, and talking about Emory Chad. Okay, listen, we've cut it like I said. Well, look, the Emory Chad fan club was founded on this pod right now. It's just a long, long time ago before Emory starts breaking all these articles. It was founded even longer than that ago. So I remember many minutes ago to demo about the under 17s World Cup, but I actually mentioned it in the summer that we thought I was watching it when he was there and he was the player to talk about. Yeah, the thing about, you think about praise for the leader? How is this nice that if someone says it about you? I'm just so happy, but Emory Chad. Actually, if we could both start to stop out doing something, who's the most super fan? Well, I was going to say it was Phil. It's just he jumped in and said it about himself. Yeah, the war stories are getting good. My point was one of the points that kept coming up last week to just to save, save after the incessant price. One of the points that came up last week was that when are we going to see this guy moving forward into midfield? And when he did last night, it was a wonderful thing to behold. So I want to link the defense and the attack with that movement from Chad. Well, talk to me following his movement. Yes, exactly. You see, I like that. Yeah, that's a very good point. I mean, I put my, I already do it by 10 minutes. Just let Dave talk. Damn, you talk. Thank you. I was going to say how much Phil? No, I'm going to draw again. There was a lot of discussion before the game about, before the Scotland game, about whether to move him or he's on out of defense. And I'm with Molly. I wouldn't move him. I think it's the best position for him right now. I think you don't disrupt the defense that's playing well and not conceding goals and we're not conceding goals. But my God, this player, I mean, I thought Phil's shout about making him captain was a bit premature last week. But I'm after last night's game, I fucking well bought it. Making manager for all I can. You ripped down the fucking shankly game to make put up the average angles. I fully onboarded it. I think he was unbelievable. I unbelievable the last three games, the the Bolton game, the Everton game and the Tottenham game. I just think he was exceptional. Phil, I know you want to chip in. Like, if you could focus more on when he moved forward rather than what we know is he's an excellent defender since he'd been there. But what about that impact? Is it making a case for undeniable inclusion and center field later? What? I think we just tell him, go out and play wherever the hell you want. If you feel like you want to go into midfield, go into midfield. You know, just make sure we don't concede any goals. Right? Look, the thing about Chan is again, the flexibility and the one thing that we knew when we were signed on the study was a flexible player in terms of position was like he can even cover left back if we need it. You know what I mean? He's not just restricted to playing in the right hand side or the left hand side. And what he does is, and he does it even in defensive positions. They were talking about their press and sack out because he's a midfielder playing in the center back position. You can see when he gets the ball, even if he's under pressure, his brain is already two gears ahead of what's going on. So he knows I can, maybe I'll faint and go inside and give me another half a second of space and I'll be able to get a better pass off. Or I don't, I can give it. I'll play a decent force touch pass, you know, along the deck to one of the players that's coming in, he rarely hoofs the ball because he rarely has to hoof the ball. All the great sentiment fielders rarely play massively long passes because they don't have to do the vision of the pitch in front of them to know where the players are and they can find feet. And if you're playing, if you're playing a percentage ball up the line, just to clear your lines, if you're under the cautious, it's just going to come straight back at you. Whereas the way he plays it means that we retain position and we do get ourselves moving a lot quicker up the actual parking. He makes himself, he always, the one thing I've really been impressed with in the position is he, when he comes out, as we move forward, he comes out from the back and moves with the actual play. And there's always a pass on to him. Like he'd say it so many times when we're in the opposition half, like when I was on the ball, America, which was on the ball, they always had that option of, of challenge or sitting on just inside his own half or just in front of the halfway line so that he could switch the player, move it across again from there. So when he naturally switches into midfield, you've got all that tactical awareness going on. And his passing ability, his passing ability has come on this year. Like he was, he was, he always played some mad bots, some mad passes, right? They didn't necessarily come off as much as they are at the moment, we've played for us. And that's just progression of the player himself, you know, he's finding his range in terms of passing, he knows when to play, he knows when to switch the play, he can get out of jail. But when he comes in, what he gives us again is a presence. We were lacking a severe presence in midfield. And when he steps in today, into there, all of a sudden we have a presence and spores can't play towards him. What about that run where he basically leaves everyone on the pitch behind? No, no, no, no, it doesn't leave me ever. Anyone that's coming here might just bounce and it's like he has a force field. It was a bit far run forest run though, isn't it? It was a bit like, he's just not going to stop, he's just going, going, going. Well, did you see the one, right? Did you see the one against everything? Where he bailed up the side and then he, okay, he's still centre back, isn't he? Yeah. And then he's cutting inside and doing a step over and three steps and then he gets, he ends up getting a shot blocked and you're not going to go, he's still the centre. No, my favourite bit against Everton was, you know, against West Ham, when Sterling beat the fall back like three times just to take the piss, I liked it that Emory Jan decided to do that to Lukaku on his own six laps. He like beat them once and he could have cleared it like four times and he went, no, just beat them again, just beat them again, have a little wrestle, beat them again, then I can evolve. When you think, when you think of the problems that Lukaku caused us last, caused us last year, and scoring the goals against us, and all right, he was so far inside Emory Jan's pocket, he was almost, you know, the coin pocket that you have in your jeans. Yeah, you know, it's been made into that. You can never get the coins out of it. Lukaku had become stuck. And the thing about it, it's almost a complete waste of time trying to press Chan, because like, first of all, like, he did, he's no problem when he's on the ball, dropping his shoulder, doing dragbacks and all this, like, there was a part in the first half where they looked like they were kind of hemming him into the corner and he was dropping his shoulder, going past, he was a few dragbacks, and he takes out the pitch and wedge, and what is left foot drops it straight onto the center of your fearless foot, and you're just kind of like, what is going on? Why are you looking at it? And even if you do get near him, he's a fucking monster. You're not going to out-strength him. He's an absolute beast. He is the Roger Federer of footballers. He just can do everything, and doesn't look like he's breaking a sweat, doesn't look like his hair's out of place, just he can be powerful, he can do little clips, he can shoot the image, just unbelievable player. He had a classic caramel moment as well. Remember the shot in the fourth half? He started to slide him from about 40 yards away. I always think so. A man's got the same. He's going to have to lift it off him or whatever. Now, it was just smack off him, and he could see the crowd were going mad. It was like the number 23 days he's sliding across the box, blocking the shot. I think we've seen that one before. My sake of everything I'd ever done was skirting or screaming at him because he'd made a mistake. Oh, I was like, "Fuck it, are you ready?" He's like, "Hey, my fucking hair, what do you do about it?" I would have loved to have counted her. I said, "Yeah, but I'm not going to pass it to you." Paul, will you take on the question? I know a lot of people have been asking, and two lads are kind of dancing around it for obvious reasons. But the idea of him moving forward, now that Dejan Lovren has been completely rehabilitated, so we have that to rely on. Do we play him in the centre of midfield next week? I'm still not sure, really. I think it's one of the biggest calls Rajas will make this season. Yes, it really is. Because when you looked at our defence earlier on this season, and someone said, "You know, after Christmas, you're going to have the best defence in the league." You would fucking hit them. You wouldn't look at them. Sure, you fucking hit them. And now it's just working so well, and Chan looks like he would be amazing in midfield, and we look like we're at the moment, and midfield is like a save, and you're going to do your deed, and you're really pushing out there, and bringing out the bell day, and I'd love it. Lovren did okay. I would be for a probably starting Chan in defence against Paulus, and then trying again, see if you can ease Lovren. How many times do you need to see it working? I don't know. Well, if nobody dies this Saturday, maybe Lovren can't get a stack that's in the back. But he even had his best, right? Think of all the adjectives we used to describe Jan, and write down the best adjectives about Lovren, and any of them match. No, right? Lovren is not strong. He's not calm. He's not tactically aware. This is before he was completely rehabilitative. Come on. I heard they infused Lovren with so much Chan's blood. There you go. Chan's placenta. And horse placenta as well. Molly, behind those guys we had there, I've had a little bit of a massive amount of editorial input here by Dave Thomas today, and Dave's summary of, he did the review before me, and his summary of me and like, it's two words in capitals, you know, just in case we didn't get a fucking brilliant, Dave says about me and you're like, what do you think? Oh, I totally agree with you. And I think me and the ladies are some youth credit, because there's not many players out there that blow on board called codkeepers, who are, you know, to get dropped from the team, they've gotten slaughtered by the fans, even the manager has had a popular place. They can actually come back into the side and play as well as he's played. And not only that, he's actually improved on his kicking, which has been slaughtered about all season. He's coming for classes now. This lead, when he was dropped, he didn't solve, he didn't cry off about it. He obviously went to wear and worked on his week, like kicking. He obviously watched hours and hours of footage of him in gorge, just to see where he can improve. So I see a fair focus because I'm absolutely delighted for him. Yeah. That's a controversial shout you're after coming out with, because certainly his general game has stepped up. He is, as you say, coming for crosses, or we've just got started recently. And he is, as you also say, far more dominant presence in the box. But I do believe that you mentioned earlier that you taught his kicking head approved as well. Can you really stand over that? Is it not as horrible as it's always been? No, I think this is kick. It's certainly has improved. Like, I've been watching his kicking course over the last few games. And he used to like to kick it over touch for so one non-reason. No, it's fine to be getting to the men, but this is not going to help him. Yeah. Yeah. Baby steps is what you're saying. Next step is more to work on distance. I think his kicking is still up, but that's like saying water is wet. Like, it's not something you're going to criticise him over a weekend. You know, it's like chrysalis and staring at him for being smaller or something like that. Many of his kicking is crap, I think, and it's always going to be crap. But the stuff that he can reasonably improve on, it's come on leaps and bounds. I still couldn't believe it that, yes, they come on for crosses. Come on, you remember when Kane was offside, but like, menulae flew away with offers like, it was just brilliant to see. And I don't know if he's going to keep it off, like, hopefully he will until the end of the season. But it just, I don't know the part of it, that's what he's been doing for the last six or seven weeks, and over the last four weeks, the amount of crosses he started coming for. It's like he said, these lads are fucking shite and freakin' manners. I'm just going to have to come for everything. And the defence, you can see how it's reacted around. Once they come, they know it more likely you're going to punch it. So, you know, everyone is then picking up to see where the second ball is going and looking together. He used to come out and shout, "Come on, you know, to nobody, I used to complain about that. Now he comes on and goes, "Fuck you, Brendan." Every time he comes from across, "Fuck you, Brendan." He's punching Brendan in the face as he hates him. Hates him. I like this theory of yours. I think it works. But there is no other, there is no other logical explanation except he fucking hates Rogers. Everything he does, he says, "Fuck you, Rogers." Hopefully, that's pretend that the kick Rogers is in the head. I mean, he can help the fucking halfway behind that. They don't, then we'll be laughing. It's like the movie, The Water Boy, you know, when it's like, "Gatorade." "Gatorade." He's like, "Fuck you, Rogers. Fuck on." Phil, will you help you with him coming out? That one particular amount, Michael Lorna, a nervous breakdown, when he came out and there he gave it apparently. What do you think of that? Yeah, fuck off, Michael Lorna. That's what I think of that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. What a stupid touch. Yeah. Going the bin. Yeah. If Michael Lorna thinks it was wrong, it was right. Fuck you. So, that's your dinner? Yeah, horrible little prick. Yeah. If I, I took him into the escape. And he dangerous. And it was a bath of acid in the escape. And it was the age of complimenting the actual incident, so what did you think of it? Oh, no, because he came, what just happened? Yeah. It was a complete non-event. It was a bad, like, eggplant. I bought it, he got a little brush on Kane's thing. Well, the bar was trickling into the heart and like, "Fuck off." Look, it's not the wrong one at all. What do you want? If he stays in his line, you have the little fucking prick on me. He should have come off as like, "Fuck off." Right? He comes off as like, "He should have stayed." And he's like, "Oh, that's great fucking analysis." Yeah. That's brilliant analysis. That's, tell me something I didn't see on the fucking television. That channel have it sewn up between him and Robbie Savage, don't they? Oh, seriously. Oh, hell is that absolute mark. Have you seen the, yeah. Hell, is he on the fucking television? Have you seen the advert where... They all walk out of their tunnel. They all walk out of their tunnel. And they're like, walking towards the camera. And Owen gives you the thumbs up. Oh, God, it's fucking fantastic. It's almost tempting you to smash your TV in this way. I couldn't watch the highlights of the game. They ruined the songs of Robbie Savage. I just went, "No, I'm not the best." Did you get as far as the Lord Sugar conversation? Because that's why I think I died for about 10 minutes. And for a start, why are they so long? It was so distraught. Oh, but Lord Sugar. There's everything about that fucking program as well. Yeah. Look, what are they doing sitting in the carol seats? Like I said, no, no. Right, I can accept. I can barely accept the carol seats on a football bench. Like, they wear fucking car seats. Yeah. Right, why are there a lot of car seats on the bench? Because it's flat instead of winning. But it's a shame, because I think, to be fair, I think the guy Fletcher, Darren Fray-- I actually think he's pretty good. Like, you know, he's shameably weird. I actually think he's probably good. Don't box beside him. But it's Savage that's just a fucking moron. I like it when he tries to make Savage read the older product. Like, not only did I have to kind of completely skip most of the highlights because of Savage, I ended up going to bed earlier than I normally do. And I woke up at about half four in the morning. I couldn't have gone back to sleep. So I ended up going back to sleep on about six, waking up then at normal time. And I'm absolutely bollocks at the moment. That's Robbie Sadler. Oh, because of him. It sounds like a fucking lobster being fried. It's just an asshole. Why did we just change the channel? It's not the only channel. You don't have to watch Beatty's plot. It was stuck. I went to bed. It was going that way, right? Right, well, let's get away from that absolute belly and then talk about Danny's storage and his start, which was a controversial start. People weren't sure what would happen or not. Paul, scene is your scene is your... In such a good mood, yeah. Would you would you talk to me about that? It was the right thing to do. What do you think was impact overall? Um, I thought you obviously, I thought he was dangerous. He won the penalty. He hit the pulse and I think he tested Clarisse a couple of times. But he's obviously quite short of fitness. Um, he's like a storage, doesn't he? He doesn't lose the ball off him. But I thought he lasted quite a lot. Eh, last night, you know, just that lack of sharpness, not getting his body in the way, kind of a defender maybe catching up and getting a leg in on the ball. And then I think the way moments where he held it up well and sprayed it up well, but overall like it wasn't the stories that were used to, I don't think. What about the mobility aspect of things? Like, I mean, people were watching closely. Certainly I was watching closely. Every time he was one on one with someone to see, would he actually, you know, stretch the legs and really go for it? And he, you know, he didn't seem to be holding back. Although he didn't seem to have that little... Yeah, because X-ray are the pace of it. Yeah, I think that's what will come with games. Like I said, there was a few defenders kind of got back and got a leg in on him. I think Dyer put in a nice couple of challenges on him. But like, that would come with this sharpness. Overall, I thought he did okay for like considering he's missed. Most disease. The back here is fucking outrageous, right? Yeah, like, I don't think Lazar was impressed, because he was sitting there waiting to happen. Fuck that. If there's a back here that would go on, like, you have to go for it really. But it was, it was an outrageous back. Back here into the ground to get the bounce, to bounce above. So, because he knows I give he hits it just straight back here. Imagine that goes in. No, that story just back here. Yeah, that's just amazing. He's on a gold route though at the moment. Yeah, two games. That's Gordon, two games. This is what happened with Mario. Where you bring Lambert on? No. No. So, in your words... Dave. Finally. Mario. Finally, Mario. Yeah. So, talk to me about the introduction of the big man. What do you think? Well, I was happy that they brought him on not Lambert. I thought that was... Was that your honest reaction? Good. I swear to... What? No. My honest reaction wasn't all good. Here comes Mario. It was great. It's not Ricky Lambert. Okay. If I'm being perfectly honest. Okay. Um... Look. It's the, it's a goal he should score. You know, he does his best to miss it. He gets completely underneath it. And I start... What did you fuck up? He fucking intends to do that because he knows it. Yeah, but my jogging, when you sit down... Sit down. Here's my pipe chugger. I know, I was really pleased for the lad, to be honest. I think, look, it doesn't disguise the fact that he's been terrible for us. And he's not probably not going to have a long-term future for us. But, I mean, I was screaming when he scored. It wasn't... It was a great goal. I mean, Henderson to Eib. Eib. Great ball through to Lallana. Great ball through to Lallana. Across the ballot alley and, you know, to very, very... It is a good finish, to be fair. So I was pleased when he came on. Hopefully it kicks him on a little bit. But I thought that the attacking play in general, we were quite incisive. I know we haven't really talked about Markovitch, but I thought Markovitch had a really good first half as well. I thought his goal was well taken. It was funny when he was saying about him not being happy when Sturridge took the back heel. Let's all be honest. Markovitch would have missed. Markovitch is not a good finisher. You know, he would have hit the corner flag, if Sturridge had left. He did score it all, actually. Yeah, yeah. But that's because of the beautiful Anfield pitch, which took a lovely little bobble over Luis. But on Mario, look, let's hope it's the start of something. Let's hope that, you know, he feels a little bit more confident playing now and he starts putting away some of the sit-as which he's missed. Molly, realistically speaking, is there any potential for this being the start of something for Mario, do you think? No, I don't think so, Trev. I think what Sturridge said last night was actually quite telling. He said what was it to him? His goal weren't too much for his Liverpool career, but they'll do lack of his confidence. Like, I probably only half agree with Sturridge there. I don't think he'll do anything for his confidence because I don't. He has a problem with confidence. I just don't think he cares. Trev, I thought it's pointed by Barreteria. I suspect him so much when he came in, but he's been absolutely dreadful. He's gone round that pitch. Like he got, he doesn't care whether he gets on. He doesn't care about his career. He's just looked with the gun. He'll go after Italy next year. He'll repair him or someone. He'll play him with PS4. Take the dogs for the water. Take a few handy checks. And that's the kind of guy he is. So, you know, I can't see a goal. Do 19 print, all that side of him in Amsterdam. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, yeah. So it's a bit fancy to be thinking about anything building from there is what you're saying. Well, he stopped waking up. I was living off, but from what was seasoned. And I don't even expect much from him, really. You know, as I said, if you look to him all season, he hasn't really shown any interest at all in the game with the gun. He hasn't shown that he's out for hungry for goals or hungry for games. He just doesn't know about it. Yeah. So when you have that there, it's pointless. Phil definitions on this. What do you think about overwhelming obsession with the fact that he didn't smile? And the fact that everyone in their interviews today, Henderson, Pasco, L'Alanna, Sacco, were all asked about. Mario didn't smile. Why didn't he smile? Who gives a fuck? He did smile. He put a picture of him smiling on him. He did put an Instagram picture of him. That's awesome. He also has a celebrate that I got on in four years. It's like, do these people not follow football? I mean, do you know what I mean? It's the Mario Show. No matter what he does, if he runs around like a fucking mad thing after he scores the goal last time, he'll be the show. That's the big thing. Oh, look, he meant so much from blah, blah, blah, blah. He does his normal thing. He walked off the pitch. He doesn't applaud everyone. That was a story a couple of weeks ago. He left the pitch. He didn't applaud the fans. Blah, he went straight down the tunnel. He does it last night. It's the story. Look, you know, it's easy press. Do you know what I mean? There is definitely a Mario Show thing that's been there, ever since he was at Manchester City. It's not just Liverpool. When he came back, we knew what the narrative was going to be. So that's it. I'd rather talk about the fact that he finally seemed to get the Moan Galva's back and scored a goal last night. No matter what. Look, he scored the winning goal. He could have done a shit on a cup for it. He scored the winning goal. He'll give the fuck away, then. Listen, I thought it was a great substitute, performance, to be honest. I thought it was pressing. It came on. He looked hungry. The things that Mario were criticizing were being valid and up to last night. And last night was the first time he ran around, probably from since before Christmas time. He ran around, pressed really well, looked to get at them. You know, probably since the United Game when he came on as a substitute in that game, that was where he showed that there was something about him. Hadn't seen it. He showed it again last night. And let's hope, because we're going to need him. We're going to need him. And we're going to need, because I'll tell you what, on the side again, when storage came back, there was 15 games to go. Storage has never played 15 consecutive games in the league. And I don't see him supplying 15 consecutive games for us until the end of the season. So we're going to need spells, Mario, and he's scoring goals and has confidence. I'd rather have validity scoring goals and being confident than validity with his head up as ours, because nothing's going right from him. And badity with the food goals and dream is going to be worth a lot more in the summer than badity who doesn't play a game. So you all romantic you. On that romantic note, let's end this Valentine's review then. Right, let's have a look forward to the next game, which is the FA Cup title against Crystal Palace at the weekend. We'll sort of lead into a talk about Brandon Rogers, interesting enough, because one of the issues over the last couple of games were the use of substitutions and the selections. And obviously that's going to be a massive issue now with an FA Cup game. What kind of priority has it? Especially with Bishiktas coming up as well, pretty soon afterwards on the Thursday, I believe, at home. So can we talk a little bit about that, about Rogers' decisions and his selections in two most recent matches? On the plus side, you have Jordan Eib and Markovich being picked in positions. People would like to see them. On the downside then, you have what people have been referring to all year, which is during the game, the substitutions and the decisions that are made tactically during the game. There are pluses and minuses overall. Who wants to take this up to start? Well, I mean, I wouldn't mind just commenting on the... The first thing was... The other thing was really frustrating. And I mentioned it in the preview. I was really frustrated with the substitutions, they're not taking off Jared. But the Jared issue aside, I think the Tottenham thing, the playing of Eib and pushing of Markovich forward was the first time, I think we're not the first time, but was a clear sign of Rogers doing something progressive and positive that he wasn't forced into as a result of an injury. It would have been easy for him to put Alan in the midfield, push Jared forward and play Markovich or right wing back. But to play Eib and Markovich down that right hand side, I thought that took a lot of balls, to be honest with you. We're critical of him when he's slow to make those times a progressive decisions. And that's the type of thing. I think we've been calling for him to do all season, to make those types of calls where you go, you back that decision. You go, yeah, even if that doesn't work. It's what you want to see. It's what you want to see. The conservativeness that has come into some of his decisions this season, I think has been what's been quite frustrating. And the Jared issue is still a conservative sentimental issue that he's going to need to address. But I really like the Eib and Markovich thing. I thought, yeah, that's Rogers of last season, just going balls out going. Yeah, we're just going to beat you. So I was really impressed by that against Tottenham. Lesser against Eib and them. Yeah, Paul, it's not fair enough overall that there's more positive signs in Brendan's progression as the season's going on, just the same as there is in the team. Yeah, I'd say so. Because I mean, we're talking about Chan all this podcast. And we were screaming out from the first half of the season. And he wasn't getting a sniff at all. Well, he got a couple of cameos where we looked really good. And we just went back to, oh, well, I'll just go back and play the same old idiots that just keep letting me down. He has made a few good decisions recently. And you look back and you never put Chan in. It took him so long to drop love. And I think it was an injury, actually. I think Lovren picked up that eventually some kind of taking out. The same with Johnson, it's really when Johnson gets injured, he starts kind of dropping him. So it is nice to see him kind of go, no, actually, I'm going to leave some senior pros out because these fellows aren't performing. And I'll take a chance on the younger people. So yeah, I'm still really interested to see what he does about Chan, like where he plays him. And I think the FA Cup does give us a kind of decent opportunity where it's not going to take momentum out of our league if it does go tits up, if he puts it over and in, and the whole place goes on fire. Like it's still, it's still just FA Cup match. Yeah, I think it's interesting. And I think it's good that it is an FA Cup match because it means he can kind of tinker here. And I think it's a good opportunity for him to kind of build on it. Yeah, I feel it's this thing we've talked about a lot recently, good, the pros and cons in Rogers. Listen, I was fucking human, human after the everything match. The substitutions were fucking abysmal, right? You couldn't have picked worse substitutions with the exception of putting Johnson on in fucking sentiment favor Henderson or something like that. Seriously, they were fucking appalled, bringing Lambert on. What is going, look, what? Do you know what I mean? He's never going to score. Oh, Jesus, where is your words, Phil? Who's stealing your thoughts? I can't even get a sentence, I don't know. And even now, it probably comes back from opportunities last. We could have won that game. Had he done the brave decision and reefed Jared out of there because he was having a fucking stinker of a game against everything, right? We probably would have had more impact than that actual match itself. So, in fairness to him, he pulled most of that back against Boris because it took a lot of good managerial decisions to actually win that game. And he got everything right, where he got everything wrong on the derby. Outside of losing the derby, he got everything wrong. What he could get wrong in terms of what really annoyed me was it seemed like we'd settle for the draw with him and still go on the actual game itself. That fucking got me back when we could have easily gone after him. And we could have scored against him. I can't believe I'm going through this, but I'm going to just adjust it here. Did the Jared decision get taken out of his hands in the last game? Did that really help the overall positive picture that you have in the Spurs? I don't care. Look, he was taken off and it was the right decision, right? Yeah, well, yeah. Look, I don't know. Sometimes the trial, there was an injury. Again, I don't know whether I held a series to continue injury-wise. It was more a way of trying to describe the actual reason for the substitution. I'm actually describing what the brain process was going on, because quite possibly it's just a brain fart. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, I shouldn't have done that. I'd say if he had a chance to go back and change that, he wouldn't take the continue off the pitch. It was seeing the way the game went on. But that's what I'd say. Well, again, as I said, he deserves all the credit for the stuff. And the substitutions, you've got to give the substitutions credit that he does make, because not only do you come on, they come on and influence the game. Like, Lilana, we didn't talk about him in a book. Lilana comes on and has such a really strong positive impact on that sports game. We'd stopped running at the defense a wee bit at that point, and he comes on and he provides fresh impetus, and they're going at the defense again, and they're struggling with it. We finished the game, and we won a game with Lovern, Lilana, and Balotelli on the pitch. Yep. You know, that should be a fucking party or something. Nobody. You know, and Lilana sets up Balotelli for the go. Yeah. So look, you know, that's good management. That's good management. But it's really black and white when it comes down to the way the two games are managed. So, you know, going into this weekend, God knows what we're going to get. And he could have just thrown Alan on for Jared. And the way Alan has played, you would say it would have been the same thing, Spurs still would have been pouring at us. But he put Lovern on and moved to turn into midfield, and it stemmed the tide. Like, it got us not only, not only did it kind of physically stop Spurs, I think for the last kind of portion of the game, then Spurs were kind of going, right, they're fighting back a bit now. Do we really want to try and win this and risk lose, man? I think they kind of dropped off a bit. They put that kind of seated out in them, and we were going back at the, like, we were pushing Spurs back then. But, like, we're looking ahead to the FA Cup game, because, you know, he has decisions to make. Does he bring in the fucking garbage, like glancing into the fucking team? Do you know what I mean? Do you want, I don't want to see him. Well, folks in the positive ones for us, do Deja, Lovern, who's finished the game? Yeah, you give Lovern a game. And, Alan, you start, Lovern, you start LaLana, you start Alan, you start Manquillo, and you look at the Moreno situation. Does he need to need a game off? You change around. So the thing for me with the FA Cup is, if we win the FA Cup, we're in the Europa League. Nobody wants to be in the Europa League. Ask anyone, right? No, we don't be in the Europa League. Yet they're at the same time, people say, I don't want to give a shit about the Europa League matches coming up. Yet if we win the Europa League, we're in the Champions League. You know, we should be focusing on the two ways of us getting into the Champions League. I'm going to point something very obvious out to you, which I clearly you're aware of, but you didn't acknowledge. If we win the FA Cup, we win the FA Cup. So in and of itself, is that not something that's worthy of? If we win the FA Cup, we get in the Europa League. So that's basically your answer. When you win the FA Cup, as well, though. I'm like, I don't want to treat it. I don't want to treat it with disdain. I want to give it a go. Oh, listen, it's garbage. I swear to God, I couldn't give a shit about the FA Cup. It's like the romantic trippers. It's the romantic part of it. We might get some more money from him this summer. You only get in the Europa League already. Jesus Christ. I know, I mean, I want to win the FA Cup. But I think we can, I think you have to use the squad. You know, the reality is, you know, we're going to have played four games in a week and a half. We've played, it'll be our 17th game since, I think, the middle of the, beginning of December. You know, it's a lot of games. We have to rotate. And the whole point of having a squad is to be able to make some of those changes. Except playing Glenn Johnson, which is where you, listen, every man has to have standards, right? You have to draw a line. And, you know, the best thing about this little run we've been on is Johnson's been fit for five games. It has not played a single minute of football for us. Also, I had the chance of games, which you lost. But from them. Yeah, and Molly, I don't count them. That's a good point. That's a good point that the lads make, Molly, is that, you know, we do have to start using the squad because we do have, well, hopefully another game in the FA Cup after this one. And we have the Europa League, at least two games against Bishikdas. And then who knows, a lot of people are hoping we'll go far in that. So you do, you are going to see people coming in who might not be everybody's favorites. Who starts the Crystal Palace game for you? Well, none of the shots coming from me. None of that cleansing are in weak here. Barini, Lambert, none of them. I know we've had a lot of games coming up, but I didn't end the day. I, you know, players will much better be out there playing and winning games than sitting on a bench or for training. I don't think it's all earnest in there. You know, we're not the Champions League, we're out of the League Cup. We have the FA Cup, the League, and the Europa League to go. Look, that's it. It is because they're getting paid a fortune. If it is anything, they can't play another 20 games left in the season. They should be playing for as far as I'm concerned. So just leave, leave the shot on the bench and let's just go off it. Like, I'm with Phil, see, I've got really, I don't care about it. We lose the Palace. I'm not going to be bothered by that. Yeah. Yeah, it's a difference between wanting to lose, right? Or not getting into it, not being in an absolute fucking depression if we lose. Yeah. You're not going to a depression if we lose. I won't. You're working most absolutely well. Yes, you will. Hang on a second. I said it after the ball, even during the ball of the game. But really, look, I didn't want this to lose. But if we last, I wasn't going to win the week. If we lose in the League, and there's no, there's no League going to the following week, your head is wrecked, right? Especially when you're trying to chase top four in the whole lot, right? That gets you down because you're thinking to yourself, bollocks, that's another game down off the list, there's another gap that's there. Whereas with the FA Cup, we lose, we're able to cope. Yeah, so, so be it. Do you know what I mean? If we get to the semi-finals, I'd be interested in the actual win in the FA Cup. But if we're not in the semi-final, open to the semi-finals, it's the relevant. It's a way to get players, games under their belt, who you may need to rely on, especially on the run-in. The thing for me isn't even about whether winning the FA Cup is right. I forget that for a minute. It's that you can't play the rest of the season with 14 players. You know, we can't do what we did last season. So eventually, you have to give them a game. And if you're asking me, "Well, I'd rather give them a game against Southampton or Man City," which is our two games after this, then no, I wouldn't. I'd rather the players that are in form, but eventually, you have to give these players a game. You can't play Coutinho, but you can't play Coutinho in this game. You have to have a break. You don't want to rush stern him back from injury to play him against Parless. Okay. Do you really want storage going out again? You probably might want him to get some minutes. So for me, if we're not willing to rotate for this game, what we're essentially saying is we now have 14 players that we trust, and we have to go out in the summer again and sign nine fucking players again. You know, eventually, we have to give the likes of Manquillo, the likes of Loverun, the likes of Alan, the likes of La Lana, you know, players, these are all top players. We have to give them a game eventually. Yeah, Molly, you want to come in there? Yeah, one more question. I think what they have said there is, it's kind of true, but we do want to have 14 players we can trust. Like, if you want to rotate players, yeah, rotate Coutinho for Lana. You know, rotate someone like, I don't know, bring Manquillo into the team, and you might be able to take off Mark, which for a while are, you know, you're voluted here, you can come in for a sterling. Don't be rotating them with the Johnsons and the Burinis and the Lambers, and these type of players. There's no way I'd let them on the pitch. There's no point. It's if you want to rotate, rotate with the three or four good players that we have on the bench, at the rest of the rubbish. Yeah, yeah, okay. Look in a palace, right? Because it is the game in front of us. I would say I'd be 75% sure that they'll play a heavily second-string side, because they're in a relegation battle. And do you know what I mean? They'll go out with nothing to lose. Now, we go out, we play our four-string team and we beat them, ground. We should also be our second-string team. Should be strong enough to be Palace's second-string team. Okay, well, let's talk for a little bit about what that is, because Dave's already flagged up. You know, the likelihood is we probably won't see Coutinho if he is carrying a knock. Sterling is apparently carrying a knock. Jared is clearly went off, apparently injured. So who does that? Let's talk about that for a bit. Well, I'd start megs and go, because we don't have the number. And then after that, I'd put all the names in an envelope. And I get the players to come in and pick one envelope each. I'd have a list of defenders. I wouldn't put Johnson's name in there. I'd list of defenders, right? A list of available midfielders and a list of attackers. And then take out the list of Sterling, Coutinho and Sophie out of there. And then you'd a bit like Countdown. It was two from the top and then three at the back. And lastly, I want to see whose names come up. I think you play Lovren. So you give either Jean or Sacco a rest. And you play the other two of the back three. And you do. You don't take in Manquillo in there. I play Manquillo at right wing back. Because I can't play. And I think Markovich needs a rest. Okay. Or play Markovich further forward. So I'd play Manquillo on the right. I mean, I'd look to give Moreno a break. So I think you bring someone in, a left wing back. It's got to be Johnson then. Or Enrique. Okay. Well, I had no problem with that. I'd, on your team, I take Scotland. I put Chan Centre of the Defence. And I play Lovren and Sacco either side. What I doubt, what I wouldn't want to see in that instance, is that Lovren comes in for Sacco. Right? Because I think the temptation will be there afterwards for Brendan. Yeah. To leave Lovren in and leave Sacco out of the actual side. On the basis that, you know, Sacco had a dodgy game, whatever. I would prefer to see Lovren now, if we're going to use him, to develop as a right-sided centre-back, as opposed to a left-sided centre-back. Well, I'm making the assumption, yeah. I know what you're saying about trying to set against the manager's thought process. But let me assume that he makes normal decisions. That's why I would probably do it. And then... That's a big assumption. Yeah, it is a big strategy. I'd play L'Alana, you know, play same Markovich, and then play Balotelli. So, you know, I wouldn't be making, you know, massive wholesale changes, and my final thing is, if he's fit, I'd play Jared. Because I wouldn't play him against Southampton. Okay, okay, and you feel he'd need... Listen, did you know that the FA Cup final is on Stephen Jared's birthday? No, nobody knew that. So I would play Stephen Jared. He is our cup captain. I think he should play. Oh, that's dismissive. Anyone else in the mix for you, Paul, that hasn't been flagged up that... Do you see some Berenie action present? Oh, no! Fuck's sake! That's just for Thomas. That's just for Thomas, go ahead. I throw him... I throw L'Overnin at the back. And I... I'd probably throw Chan in for the first give him half in midfield, and see how it goes with L'Overn at the back. Yeah, Chan in midfield. Yeah, yeah. Then, yeah, I've got Manquay all right back. Right, like right wing back. And I definitely land L'Overna, try and keep continuing staring out at the team. So that's L'Overna, probably Markovich in. I'd probably give Henderson a rest and put Alan in beside Chan. That's all the show, okay. And then I'd start storage. And then... You would start storage. Yeah, because that's all I do. I think he's back, and what he needs is... He's back. What is he? He's back! I mean, he's thinking he's back. You've seen him though, right? He actually is back. Yeah, I know. But like, he's not... I don't think he needs to be wrapped in cotton wool. I think he needs games. Yeah. I think he looked rusty. So I think he has to play some part. I'd probably just stare at him, and then do it. What the fuck are you laughing at? You know, I can't handle this, man. I left him. I've left the left wing back spot open, because I'd probably just upset myself, picking someone terrible at once. That's like what you said there, which is like, I'll have truth in the top of that. Whatever on a shirt you can make out on it, man. Play Danny Ward there. I would do something different. I'd play the Diamond. Okay. I'd play Chan at the base of the Diamond, because his range of passing is fucking brilliant, right? Is that allowed at the tip of the Diamond for you? Nope. Well, he could play. You could play him there, and then you'd have... I'd play Alan and Henderson, either soid as we did last season. And I'd use Storage, and I'd play Ballotelli. Okay. And then put Mike Hill and... Random name. Yeah, the left back to the smart, where you're going to have to put someone you don't like. Random, probably. Look. It's Enrique, isn't it? Don't say it, Phil. Don't say it. You're going to upset yourself. What they think about playing the Diamond with Chan is that he's more than capable of stepping back in to the defense as a centreback, and you can revert in-game to a tree at the back, where Alan and Henderson been able to go box to box if needs be. And I think it's something we should develop. I think the Diamond suit was really well last year. We know that it walked the one time that played with Ballotelli and Storage. It gives us a chance to see them, too, yeah? And it just allows us to throw a real different tactical variation in a game where you could start off one way and then quickly switch to a different formation. Yeah. You know, a team would be set up to play against us on the tree. It'd be an interesting game as well, to do what you want to do with Cannes. Like, a Chan Rogers just go, listen, do whatever the fuck you want to do. Well, fuck it up. [LAUGHTER] Do whatever you want. And you tell the other players what to do to do it. We owe Palace Fuckinghoid. Oh, they need their own Fuckinghoid. And we need to kick your man, Dwight Gail, all over the shop. Yeah, for two months or so. Harder is going to be up for this, though. Harder on a hit. Oh, definitely. I don't know, Harder was the manager when Newcastle Fucking beat us as well this season. So we need to give him a kicking. Dwight Gail a kicking. And Balassie, he needs a kicking as well. Yeah. And anyone else that plays for Palace needs to have a good kicking. Zaha, he needs a kicking. Zaha needs a kicking as well. We're just saying random Palace players now that we know. We named all the ones we get named. Yes. Delaney. So he needs a kicking. [LAUGHTER] Stop the shutdown that anybody say. I'm here nearly signed for he needs a kicking. Yeah. Sparoni. Definitely kick him. So we're basically-- Your man, Eric Young. He needs a kicking. [LAUGHTER] Eric Young. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, good decade. So we're basically giving them the usual-- Ian Wright. Mark Broi. He needs a kick. Yeah. Yeah, lack of respect. Yeah, OK. Let's not talk about Palace. Adam, how do you need a good kick here? Gabbard here, right? [LAUGHTER] You're going to be like this. [LAUGHTER] I'm super, trust your bottoms. He needs a kicking for them. Actually, Palace just needed a kicking. That was-- Neil Warnock. Neil, all they had nailed him down. He needs a kicking. So how do you need such a fucking hard kicking that Neil Warnock fails at? [LAUGHTER] That's a fucking good need. [LAUGHTER] Right, Broi, let's get a little bit of focus back into this and talk to me about how you think that game's going to go over the weekend. You know that game, you don't really give a shit about it. How do you see that one ending? I don't see the evening wind for us. OK. I think it's one of those games that's written in the stairs. We're going to see the video of a paradox scoring, the winning goal for Palace against us in the semi-final. And I think it's just one of those games that Palace are going to come over on top. OK, OK. So you see a Palace win. Paul, how do you see it going? Two nail to us. Two nail Liverpool win. Dave, two won. That's two won Liverpool. Yeah, I think that's my always score. So I'll go up my always score. Phil. Eight nail to us. Lovely. Fuck Palace. They're on the list of fucktames. It's great to have you. With a party one goal. We're a party one goal. A party's going to come on in a stop and it's going to hit his arse and go in. His face is the first face. Yeah, that's going off. That fucking smirk he has. Of a smirk into the back of the net. I am Lujouari. You are listening to Trippin's chat. [LAUGHTER] OK, I'm going to start with a question from Sam McGuire and Sam's asking if you have to pick an assistant manager from the Trippers, from us here, or from any guests that we've ever had on. I assume an assistant will put a manager to Brandon. Who would it be? Poor Akali's getting the boot, so who's a system manager? A system manager to Brendan or a system manager to me? Like a system manager to me? It's a system manager to Brandon. Let's say I'm making this up. I could be putting words in Sam's mouth, but-- I think it should be Paul, right? Because you'd have to get up really early. And he loves that. And then nobody would be able to hear him talk. They'd all be going, come closer. Come closer. [LAUGHTER] No, they're all, come closer. We can't do any attack together enough. Fuck off. Turn around. [LAUGHTER] Paul would be good at it as well, because he'd bring the short sleeves instead of the short sleeves. Yeah, yeah. Short sleeves. [LAUGHTER] The player's going to have to be like your fucking tarts. That's what people listen. The rest of us are sitting here, well, Baron Trev, who's in his twig jacket, and his leisure wear ensemble. [LAUGHTER] He hasn't got his sleeves with the Tom Hall. He hasn't got his sleeves with his house. Disappointingly. If you've seen with Nail and I, you know what Trev looks like. [LAUGHTER] At the end. At the end of the film. All right, you call the film. You'd be good, Trev. I mean, you and Brandon talk and fucking hell. Imagine those team talks. [LAUGHTER] You're both very eloquent men, aren't you? Like, do you know what I mean? Yes, yes, yes. Both loquacious in your use of language. I'll throw you those. Smug bass. [LAUGHTER] I believe Trev, let's call the other men. No, pompous. Oh, motherfucker. Pompous, motherfucker. Let's be, let's be, exactly. Actually, you are getting yourself close to being a-- Have you got a PowerPoint presentation? No, I can't do that too. I would say D.A.M.L. I think-- I would say D.A.M.L.L. D.A.M.L.L.L.L.L. D.A.M.L.L.L. Surely. No, that's a team talk I want to hear. [LAUGHTER] Anyone else who says, "I'm bollocks, I'm bollocks, I'm bollocks." [LAUGHTER] There's a lot of use in that. Can you imagine D.M.L.L. is on the bench? 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I feel like the idea of Deimos as a system manager, you have to know him though, like, you know, we know him so well that the list is probably wouldn't get it, but it's the corruption. If we would start a collection for Deimos, we'd become a system manager. Let's get a kickstart. Just for one day, just for one moment, when Rogers subs, but on. Like, you know, just what he brings us to us, don't you think? - I'm bald that you've got these shorts as well. (laughing) - Bloody shorts. - Another, another in joke, please. - Oh, no. (laughing) - We'll have to put out this with our dasik, as we get on the phone. - The only man who would make Colin Pasco look good in a pair of shorts. (laughing) - Sorry, Flodie, that's my fault. Moly, let's get away from this terrible abuse of Flodie here, and to another question, this one comes in from last dub, and he's wondering which is the better trilogy, the Toy Story one, or the back to the future one, in your opinion, what do you think? - Oh, I'd have to call the Toy Story only because, back to the future, I've been sort of splinted, I still don't have that overboard, or nothing like so, you're off. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, they lied to us. - I'm sort of splinted, I really am completely lied to us. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you didn't get taken in but that mocked up video there a while ago, did you, after the horror board? 'Cause like a mug, I believed that for all two minutes. (laughing) - I really did. One with Tony Hawk's, I believed that for 10 minutes, I was so excited, but I mean, Bowser's. The rest of the battle Toy Story. - For second travel, I thought you said, "Steve and Hawkins are not Tony." (laughing) "Steve and Hawkins are not." "Steve and Hawkins are not." "Steve and Hawkins are not a horror board." - Yeah, that's, that's, that's. - I try to have wood fall, but I have to go down. (laughing) - "Steve, you didn't even watch it, look at it." Okay, right, I suppose we've got one more here. Nick Wall asks, "Would you rather feel that it was blasted "into space by Emory Chan? "I was thrown into an active volcano by Emory Chan. "Everyone's standing for the load." - Lasted into space, definitely, because if he was thrown into a volcano, it blew his, no, no, no. (laughing) - All his body fat would go on fire and there'd be a cataclysmic fire that would end the whole world. So it has to be space, there's no other answer, unless you like the apocalypse. (laughing) - I mean, we didn't talk about him, but doubt was terrible. I mean, I thought he had a really poor game. I mean, I thought, the-- - But you could substitute any referee's name. - But who's a good referee? - I thought any Taylor did well in the moveside derby. I thought we were okay then, but I thought the fact that he doesn't give that penalty on Sturridge last night is a fucking joke. I mean, that's a clear penalty. - Richard, the free that the score for? - Yeah, it's never a penalty. - If it's a free kick, then Sturridge is one. A few minutes later, it's another penalty. It's an identical tackle with an identical result. Briefest of admins tonight, as ever. Chef Rastro Park, guildastropark.ie, and get booked in your pitch time. Your day trippers tonight were Molly, Paul Brennan, Dave Thomas, Phil Casey, and myself, Trev Downey. (laughing) - The shoe barber in a tweed jacket. (laughing) - I didn't bring Tommy's to bed. - I didn't bring Tommy's to bed. - I didn't bring Tommy's to bed. (laughing) - We should probably do Carl Turdi's question about it. - You do package trips. Artie Turdi's just a webtober now. - Carl was robbing somebody else there, so it's just a clarify. We are now the travel ladies. - I think it was Harry Chambers who asked that question. Was that Harry? - Go to bed. - But if you'd like to send your credit card details in there. (laughing) - We will organize the trip. (laughing) - To be fair, you can see how some of us go and live up all day trips. - Yeah, it's not fair. - Turn off your laptop. - We're on Stakeation. - I'm on TotalWine.com. - They have so many rosés, Chardonnays, and Proseccos. It feels like a real vacation. - Wonderous selection, helpful guides, ridiculously low prices, TotalWine, and more. - 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. - Oh, that's a cheer we used to do in softball. - Uh, what? It's actually Geico's. - Whenever someone hit a triple, we would wave our bats and yell, "15 minutes could save you 15% or more." - But we never got to use it, because we would only hit home runs. - Annoying. - The phrase is from Geico, because they helped save people money. - Geico? 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